Log for #openttdcoop on 9th January 2011:
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00:00:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> is it done?
00:00:48  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> i think so
00:01:40  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000823D:
00:05:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke im done for today
00:05:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya tommorow
00:06:04  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> ok, cya
00:06:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bye.
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00:06:17  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm working on a sawmill on 02
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00:07:48  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> oh, cool
00:09:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hm, we're going to need a wood drop and goods pickup pair of stations.
00:09:59  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> that's gonna be tight
00:10:06  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> are you planning roro or terminus
00:10:08  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> ?
00:10:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hm, maybe NS oriented roro.
00:10:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I was thinking terminus, first.
00:12:59  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, terminus is the way to go.
00:13:46  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Merde.
00:14:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 2 drop platforms and 3 or 4 goods pickup, I think.
00:14:59  <PublicServer> <Mazur> BUt I can;t see it.
00:15:31  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> nah
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00:16:15  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You see anything?
00:16:30  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> maybe merge the inner and outer of the island
00:16:37  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> should give a little more space?
00:16:40  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00006B26:
00:18:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, the double ML stays a double ML, but we could shortcut the bend.
00:18:45  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> that's ok
00:22:51  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> cant see how we build 6 platforms here..
00:24:13  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm basically thinking out loud, by drawing tracks.
00:24:52  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ok, if I go in like that, how do I go out.
00:25:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That would become 3 for goods pickup.
00:25:11  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> and two for drop?
00:25:17  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes.
00:25:24  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Island 15 also only has two.
00:26:31  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not enough room for pickup roro.
00:26:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Unless we build it in the low part.
00:26:55  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> no, or we get some horrible corners
00:27:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> WE already have one, I see.
00:27:14  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> oh :')
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00:27:37  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> so it -should- be like this
00:27:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yep.
00:29:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> This will rightly get barked off.
00:29:10  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> you bet
00:29:45  <PublicServer> <Mazur> So, other options.
00:31:41  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000672E:
00:32:19  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> would it help if we build it the other way around?
00:32:50  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Seems the only option.
00:32:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Want to try?
00:33:04  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> yeah
00:33:20  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Then get busy.
00:35:54  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> no:p
00:41:00  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> it's a start..
00:45:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It's going to jam like nobodies business, possibly.  Allthough it's a quiet island, I think.
00:45:53  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> yeah
00:45:59  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> there are two cl2 corners
00:46:06  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> and i don't like the exit bridges
00:46:27  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, but it may do or starters.
00:46:41  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00008D28:
00:47:07  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> ok
00:47:09  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> :)
00:48:08  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Just be prepared for a hearty disapproval by more experienced guys, just nod and watch them fix it.
00:49:30  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> yeah i guess
00:51:12  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> i think we can move the 3platform station 1 tile to the west
00:51:22  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> making the cl2 a cl3
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00:51:39  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> but gives more TF..
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00:54:11  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> replacing the wooden bridges would help as well:D
00:54:59  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I keep forgetting to check whether I'd set it good already.
00:55:49  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> :p
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01:01:41  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000AF29:
01:04:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ok, forests and pikcup have trains ruinning.
01:04:53  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> cool
01:05:45  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> i'm gonna get some sleep
01:05:59  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sleep well.
01:06:03  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> ty
01:06:07  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> cya tomorrow
01:06:09  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'll sleep much later.
01:06:11  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yeah.
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01:16:17  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, Petr.
01:16:41  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00007B27:
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01:18:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, Razmatazz.
01:18:16  <PublicServer> <Petr CZ> už tu??
01:18:35  <PublicServer> <Razmir> hi mazartaz
01:18:41  <PublicServer> <Mazur> :-)
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01:19:50  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Petr: English, please.
01:20:24  <PublicServer> <Razmir> yea, we are talking by priv msg now
01:20:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ok/.
01:22:29  <PublicServer> <Petr CZ> netvrdím že ne ale jsouse hrou trochu jinde než my
01:23:06  <PublicServer> <Razmir> Petr CZ: PM...
01:30:42  <V453000> hi :p
01:31:13  <Mazur> lo
01:31:41  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000812A:
01:34:06  <V453000> !password
01:34:06  <PublicServer> V453000: enrich
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01:34:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> nice
01:35:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
01:35:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> some CL2 with these trains kinda hurts
01:35:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Couple of CL2s.
01:35:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> but meh for now
01:35:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> terminus would have done the job :)
01:35:39  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yeah, given that several other options were even elss workable...
01:36:02  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yeah, but you get the exit issue.  Was tricky.
01:36:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> lies :)
01:36:38  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And I didn't weant to flatten anything unnecessarily in case it got shot down, anyway.
01:37:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Nope, still a CL2.
01:38:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> well screw it, when it breaks, lets fix
01:38:24  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm not about to disagree on that.
01:38:58  <PublicServer> <Razmir> Tartburg Heights has really nice eyecandy :)
01:39:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe thanks
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01:39:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> :o kinda a lot of wood there atm
01:39:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh, 2k forest
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01:40:07  <PublicServer> <Razmir> it would not look so good without logs lying around
01:40:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> well sure :)
01:42:04  <PublicServer> <Razmir> is there any reason why do they have 254 - 3 lines of of unreachable automaic orders lines?
01:42:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
01:42:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is a new feature in trunk
01:42:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> automatic orders
01:42:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> and these fuck up everywthing
01:42:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> as you can see, our trains there have only pickup order
01:42:49  <PublicServer> <Razmir> yea
01:42:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> when they drop stuff, they set that automatically as a so called automatic order
01:43:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> having the maximum orders possible means they cannot add the auto order
01:43:58  <PublicServer> <Razmir> so, it is trick for automat...
01:44:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
01:45:52  <PublicServer> <Razmir> well and also whole island 11 makes no sense to me :)  (ok I see clock, but...)
01:46:41  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001489F:
01:47:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> well the original idea was to make a grid of twoway tracks
01:47:00  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I don;t think sense was involved in building that.
01:47:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is basically how it works
01:47:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> but the final result is basically just for fun :)
01:47:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> and well, the motto LOGIC CONTROLS EVERYTHING kind of fits there :p
01:48:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It doesn't control me....
01:48:06  <PublicServer> <Razmir> more crazy looking - more fun. I get it :D
01:48:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty much
01:48:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm
01:48:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am fed up with SH40
01:48:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets get AL10!!! :)
01:48:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> cant be psg200 without AL10
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01:49:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Where're you at?
01:49:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> 16
01:50:38  <PublicServer> <Razmir> I see there are some locos to choose from :)
01:50:51  <PublicServer> <Razmir> not very much, but ok :D
01:50:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> its to make the game more variable :)
01:58:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Getting there.
02:00:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 5 to go.
02:01:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> 5 and the jam :p
02:01:29  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Jam's  gone.
02:01:42  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000114B4:
02:01:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> As good as.
02:02:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Last one.
02:02:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And we're done.
02:03:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
02:03:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> these are nicer
02:04:30  <PublicServer> <Mazur> SH 40 was also quite well known to me, used it in my USA game.
02:04:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> SH40 is nice but AL10 is amazing
02:05:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I take your word for it, I've not analysed any locs yet.
02:05:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, AL10 is like extremely powerful and 160kmh
02:05:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> instant acceleration
02:06:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> used in psg186
02:06:17  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I noticed the power, yes.
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02:21:28  <V453000> me off, gnight
02:22:26  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sleep well.
02:22:41  <PublicServer> <Razmir> and not forever
02:23:03  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Doing aught, Razmir?
02:23:27  <PublicServer> <Razmir> Mazur: "aught"?
02:23:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> anything.
02:23:39  <PublicServer> <Razmir> no, just watching
02:25:06  <PublicServer> <Razmir> it is some time since I saw nightly, I play stable mostly, so I watch what is new, all nice GRF you have here...
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02:25:20  <PublicServer> <Razmir> crazy track designs...
02:26:06  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yep.  Since each island has it's own theme, it's not all kosher.
02:26:20  <PublicServer> <Razmir> I would offer help with building, but I would be no help here :)
02:27:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, I'm not building much, either.  With all these different basic layout rules, I confuse easily.
02:29:04  <PublicServer> <Razmir> I now basics, I am able to build reasonably good hub (not without some mistakes) but it will take me ages :)
02:29:38  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Same here.
02:31:35  <PublicServer> <Razmir> this server is like my favourite TV show I am watching whats going on :)
02:31:42  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00000EBC:
02:31:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> :-)
02:32:09  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, my favourite T show is the Big Bang Theory atm.
02:33:37  <PublicServer> <Razmir> hmm, 3:30 in here,  time to to go to sleep was some hours ago...
02:33:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm a night owl.
02:34:06  <PublicServer> <Mazur> BUt I'm off OTTD, too.
02:34:12  <PublicServer> <Razmir> me too, 3:30 prover that enough :)
02:34:12  <PublicServer> <Mazur> For today.
02:34:18  <PublicServer> <Razmir> bye, g8
02:34:21  <PublicServer> <Mazur> As in yesterday.
02:34:27  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You too.
02:34:29  <PublicServer> <ppetak> bye
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02:34:53  <Mazur> Oh, ppetak, did you want to build?
02:35:02  * Mazur is not off to bed yet.
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02:35:50  <PublicServer> <ppetak> no... I was just making some candy things, time to go to bed I think :)
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02:36:09  <Mazur> Sleep well, then, if and when.
02:36:29  <PublicServer> <ppetak> bye :)
02:36:30  <Mazur> Big Bang Thoery, here I come.
02:36:36  <Mazur> s/oe/eo/
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02:37:21  <lukep> sorry; i'm trying to find one of the GRFs; it wasn't in the pack and i can't download it from BaNaNaS or from the online system? any ideas where i ca get it?
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02:38:28  <lukep> aha; ignore that; got it
02:39:36  <Mazur> I'll have no trouble ignoring that, then.
02:40:18  <lukep> I clicked every link associated with it except the one that gave me the GRF I needed
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06:41:12  <Ryton> ow, the steel pickup station on 05 is gone?
06:56:41  <CharcoalDioxide> !dl win32
06:56:41  <PublicServer> CharcoalDioxide:
07:01:22  <CharcoalDioxide> !password
07:01:22  <PublicServer> CharcoalDioxide: stride
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07:03:49  <Ryton> hey ccd
07:03:52  <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> ey
07:04:04  <Ryton> !passwofd
07:04:10  <Ryton> !password
07:04:10  <PublicServer> Ryton: stride
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07:04:57  <PublicServer> <Ryton> youve se
07:05:11  <PublicServer> <Ryton> seen the steeel mill pickup is gone?
07:05:29  <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> where?
07:05:37  <PublicServer> <Ryton> 05
07:05:44  <PublicServer> <Ryton> next to boost
07:05:55  <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> yeah, idk why
07:06:05  <PublicServer> <Ryton> there was a sign: too long
07:06:23  <PublicServer> <Ryton> and now a strategicallyplaced oven ;p
07:06:30  <PublicServer> <Ryton> so I can imagine why
07:07:08  <PublicServer> <Ryton> what are you working on/going to work on?
07:08:18  <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> hmm, that direction that shifts are in one isle 2 disturbs me
07:08:50  <PublicServer> <Ryton> shift to the inside?
07:08:58  <PublicServer> <Ryton> it was discussed last night:
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07:09:16  <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> hmm, whatever, but imo it should be the other way
07:09:22  <PublicServer> <Ryton> sincd the drops are on the outside, and they will connect to outer line, its easier to shift to the inside
07:11:07  <Mark> hello
07:11:19  <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> lo mark
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09:59:47  <scrlk> !pass
09:59:51  <scrlk> !password
09:59:51  <PublicServer> scrlk: misfit
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10:06:53  <scrlk> mind if anyone joined the server?
10:08:24  <scrlk> hello?
10:08:33  <planetmaker> we don't mind
10:09:03  <planetmaker> oh... another one? He... :-)
10:09:29  <planetmaker> sorry, mate, need to prepare lunch :-)
10:09:38  <scrlk> can you go afk then in the server?
10:09:39  <scrlk> :(
10:09:57  <planetmaker> I could only do that as spectator which won't help you
10:10:03  <scrlk> :(
10:10:14  <planetmaker> hm... well.
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10:10:27  <planetmaker> but moin Vinnie
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10:10:35  <planetmaker> he'll surely love to play :-)
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10:11:21  <Vinnie> good morning
10:11:56  <planetmaker> we just had a request for "please anyone want to join the server, too" ;-)
10:12:10  <scrlk> morning vinnie
10:12:12  <Vinnie> !players
10:12:15  <PublicServer> Vinnie: Client 133 (Orange) is scrlk, in company 1 (psg200)
10:12:30  <scrlk> just a little empty atm
10:13:12  <Vinnie> Homework day. need to write 2 reports before 5 oćlock. so im breaking my first rule by going to irc. don tempt me to break my second rule :)
10:13:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
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10:13:22  <V453000> !password
10:13:22  <PublicServer> V453000: cartel
10:13:25  <PublicServer> <scrlk> go on you know you want to
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10:13:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> elo
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10:13:46  <Vinnie> hi
10:13:50  <PublicServer> <scrlk> hi v
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10:14:23  <tycoondemon> !dl win76
10:14:23  <PublicServer> tycoondemon: unknown option "win76"
10:14:27  <tycoondemon> !dl win64
10:14:27  <PublicServer> tycoondemon:
10:14:44  <PublicServer> <scrlk> why are there 6k+ crates of good at 02 town drop?
10:15:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> because the town stopped accepting goods for a while
10:15:25  <planetmaker> did it stop accepting, are they force-unloaded (then: why?)
10:15:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> some wrong buildings at wrong spots :)
10:15:34  <PublicServer> <scrlk> will it fix it self?
10:15:38  <planetmaker> V453000: but... that shouldn't pile up goods there
10:15:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is fixed
10:15:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> pm: when goods arent accepted, it does ofc
10:16:05  <tycoondemon> !password
10:16:05  <PublicServer> tycoondemon: cartel
10:16:08  <PublicServer> <scrlk> will the backlog go?
10:16:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> it just happens that some buildings are replaced by others and the station stops being near the "right" ones
10:16:22  <tycoondemon> !password
10:16:22  <PublicServer> tycoondemon: roamed
10:16:38  <PublicServer> *** tycoondemon joined the game
10:16:39  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well i just staion walked
10:16:43  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00007AC7:
10:16:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :)
10:16:51  <PublicServer> <scrlk> which makes sure its going to always accpet
10:16:53  <PublicServer> <scrlk> accept
10:16:55  <PublicServer> <scrlk> that ok?
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10:17:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> no, it was walked even before
10:17:08  <PublicServer> <scrlk> :S
10:17:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> but it is highly probable if we grow the town a little bit :p
10:17:35  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well i just funded new buildings
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10:17:49  <PublicServer> <scrlk> and made a little part for new stuff
10:17:51  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hi. I need at least to look. The blog posting was very tasty
10:17:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi pm :p
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10:18:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> first time here? :) enjoy the sight :P
10:18:09  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I do!
10:18:20  <PublicServer> *** tycoondemon has joined company #1
10:18:24  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and I know: shame on me. I think it's exactly the game type I enjoy most
10:18:38  <PublicServer> <scrlk> v your fixed worked
10:18:40  <PublicServer> <scrlk> all the goods have gone
10:18:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats the train that just delivered them
10:19:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> the long one
10:19:06  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yeah#r
10:19:08  <PublicServer> <scrlk> wth
10:19:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> aww :D
10:19:13  <PublicServer> *** tycoondemon has joined spectators
10:19:49  <PublicServer> <scrlk> we pissed them off
10:19:51  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> uh... every island has a separate plan?
10:19:55  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yeah
10:19:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
10:20:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> to make them vary
10:20:07  <PublicServer> <scrlk> its a omfg wtf holy moly game
10:21:11  <PublicServer> <scrlk> wheres the lorry station in 02? town drop?
10:21:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> at the city
10:21:33  <PublicServer> <scrlk> breningpool?
10:21:39  <PublicServer> <scrlk> cant find it
10:21:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> right under the sign
10:21:55  <PublicServer> <scrlk> :S
10:22:01  <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh
10:22:03  <PublicServer> <scrlk> found it
10:23:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> breningpool hates uus
10:23:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> their problem
10:23:17  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
10:23:55  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> are the island plans subject to debate?
10:24:09  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well planet you could make a start on 04
10:24:15  <PublicServer> <scrlk> as you are old school
10:24:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> they were, but unless the island is in some high stage of completion, it can be changed I am pretty sure
10:24:27  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yep
10:24:29  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I'm pondering 01
10:24:33  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> so virgin
10:24:36  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
10:24:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm ?:)
10:24:48  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> of course existing setups are not subject to debate, I didn't mean that
10:24:54  <PublicServer> <scrlk> us newish players have no idea what old school means on 04
10:25:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will show you sometime today
10:25:15  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ah, 04 is defined as 'old school'?
10:25:17  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
10:25:19  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yep
10:25:22  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> that's even old wrt me :-P
10:25:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> pm: yes
10:25:24  <PublicServer> <scrlk> maglev goods
10:25:26  <PublicServer> <scrlk> g
10:25:52  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> maglev? Nah.
10:25:59  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ugly fugly ;-)
10:26:05  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I need something else
10:26:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> im not sure how many people are able to maintain that style these days, but I think I can inspire them
10:26:13  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well we gotta do what we gotta do
10:26:23  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> though... I might start with rail
10:26:29  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> if you don't mind
10:26:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> 04?
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10:26:43  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yeah. upgrade to maglev is easy
10:26:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, why not :)
10:26:55  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> but bad to see and build
10:26:57  <PublicServer> <scrlk> go for it planet
10:26:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
10:27:02  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and bad to look at :-P
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10:27:20  <Train> hello
10:27:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
10:27:28  <Train> !password
10:27:28  <PublicServer> Train: roamed
10:27:57  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm, there's already a boring goods drop...
10:28:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> feel totally free to redo it I would say
10:28:15  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yeah
10:28:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> there were several negative opinions about already
10:28:22  <PublicServer> <scrlk> YOU KNOW YOU CAN DO IT MAN!
10:28:36  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I rather build the 4-way hub ;-)
10:28:43  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol thats your thing isnt it?
10:28:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> hubs and shizz
10:28:57  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> that's what I started with :-P
10:29:11  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
10:29:23  <PublicServer> <scrlk> is it easy to do hubs?
10:29:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> depends
10:29:35  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> it needs care. And time
10:29:39  <PublicServer> <scrlk> tlc?
10:29:41  <PublicServer> <scrlk> :P
10:30:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> so planet it will be rail then upgraded to maglev?
10:30:32  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> what's the TF rule, V? Old school means like a maniac...
10:30:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> exactly
10:30:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is a sign TF: free
10:30:50  <PublicServer> <scrlk> aww yeah tf free
10:30:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> in other words, DUTCH TF
10:30:54  <PublicServer> <scrlk> :D
10:31:00  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm, how boring...  missed that ;-)
10:31:04  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hahaha
10:31:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> :p
10:31:08  <PublicServer> <scrlk> im all for flattening the whole  island
10:31:22  <PublicServer> <scrlk> xD
10:31:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> well even free TF should be reasonable :)
10:31:29  <PublicServer> <scrlk> aww man
10:31:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol]
10:31:33  <PublicServer> <scrlk> n1
10:31:43  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001C058:
10:31:49  <PublicServer> <scrlk> nice flattening
10:31:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> ARR
10:31:59  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I'm a very bad person. I should ban me
10:32:03  <PublicServer> <scrlk> not me for once
10:32:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw
10:32:16  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yeah?
10:32:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> the 4way shouldbe more like in the center I guess
10:32:32  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> V453000: then there's hard time to get the factory
10:32:34  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yeah
10:32:37  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> it needs joiners, etc
10:32:43  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> so I'll give it a bit space
10:32:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> manageable I think
10:33:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, I will make the factory then so you can see the space to work with :p
10:33:43  <Train> !password
10:33:43  <PublicServer> Train: defame
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10:34:12  <PublicServer> <Train> hi
10:34:48  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm... diagonal TF. I should use it
10:34:54  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
10:35:01  <PublicServer> <scrlk> we might want to relocate the plan
10:35:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> it will end up all flat if you use both diagonal or normal :P
10:35:15  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> not needed scrlk
10:35:21  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
10:36:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh for F
10:36:36  <PublicServer> <scrlk> what now v?
10:36:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> transmitter hate
10:36:48  <PublicServer> <scrlk> +1
10:36:51  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> do you build factory, V?
10:36:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> ya
10:36:59  <PublicServer> <scrlk> can you magic bulldoze and reupload?
10:37:03  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> no
10:37:07  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> boring
10:37:15  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ?
10:37:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> the radio towers were probably the only things that stayed unterraformed in old games
10:37:33  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> in other words: we don't do that for a transmitter. Not worth it. We're better than one tile
10:37:39  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
10:38:07  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> V: where do I get entry+exti from you?
10:38:19  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I need that now ;-)
10:38:28  <Vinnie> are you also dutch planetmaker?
10:38:35  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> if you build me those tracks... I can start there
10:38:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> duh!
10:38:43  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> kind of
10:38:55  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ty
10:39:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> take them anyhow you like
10:39:13  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> got it :-)
10:39:39  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> well... it's luckily TL3 only
10:39:45  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Vinnie: no
10:40:54  <PublicServer> <scrlk> on 04 do we use the leva gator?
10:40:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf?
10:41:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> Lev4
10:41:11  <PublicServer> <scrlk> someone chaged the plan>
10:41:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> nice
10:42:27  <V453000>   CmdRenameSign            scrlk  date:2228-08-02  tile:00000000  p1:000000F0 p2:00000000 text:engine: LevA 'Gator' price:0
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10:42:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> any comments?
10:42:42  <PublicServer> <scrlk> nope
10:43:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> (it is a proof that you did)
10:43:03  <PublicServer> <scrlk> sorry
10:44:21  <PublicServer> <scrlk> aww
10:44:25  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i was fencing that around!
10:44:49  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> taking too much space. I'll need it
10:44:56  <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh ok
10:45:12  <PublicServer> <scrlk> makes sense to reloacate it?
10:45:14  <Vinnie> !password
10:45:14  <PublicServer> Vinnie: defame
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10:46:09  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> please stop to terraform where I build!
10:46:43  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002085B:
10:47:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nope
10:48:14  <PublicServer> <Train> hello
10:48:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hi
10:48:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> hy
10:48:59  <PublicServer> <scrlk> v can i eyecandy your station?
10:49:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
10:49:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> there should be no candy on this island
10:49:19  <PublicServer> <scrlk> oldschool?
10:49:23  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm... is CL 2.5 enough?
10:49:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
10:52:06  <PublicServer> <scrlk> where are we going to fund the factory?
10:52:20  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yes. but please only when the tracks are done
10:52:22  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> all tracks
10:52:25  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> on this island
10:52:35  <PublicServer> <scrlk> im guessing this isnt the case
10:52:51  <PublicServer> <scrlk> plop a sign for your ideal location?
10:53:10  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> go figure some and buy the terrain
10:53:30  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> (but not the factory)
10:53:32  <PublicServer> <scrlk> k
10:53:38  <PublicServer> <scrlk> no space
10:53:44  <PublicServer> <scrlk> bloody tower
10:53:50  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm. luckily no full 4-way needed
10:54:10  <PublicServer> <scrlk> v you need to chnage your station
10:54:21  <PublicServer> <scrlk> so there is space for the factory
10:54:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol.
10:54:33  <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined company #1
10:54:33  <PublicServer> <scrlk> you see where i tfed?
10:54:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> pm: why not full
10:54:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> position of a factory is possible anywhere
10:54:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> so dont bother
10:54:59  <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined spectators
10:55:08  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> V: I'll see. But it has lower priority than the needed links
10:55:26  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and seeing that I already tried to build through a wood... :-P
10:55:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cut it down
10:56:04  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I tried. My chainsaw failed. And dynamite is out
10:56:10  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
10:56:20  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined spectators
10:56:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> if we both dynamite at the same time, will that work?
10:56:40  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> does some bloke prospect primary industries?
10:56:55  <PublicServer> <scrlk> no idea
10:58:49  <PublicServer> <scrlk> who funded the facotry?
10:58:59  <PublicServer> <scrlk> factory?
10:59:34  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> V453000: you're quick, can you check?
11:00:01  <PublicServer> <scrlk> hes in spec
11:00:19  <planetmaker> !clients
11:00:23  <planetmaker> !players
11:00:26  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client 133 (Orange) is scrlk, in company 1 (psg200)
11:00:26  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client 135 is V453000, a spectator
11:00:26  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client 141 is tycoondemon, a spectator
11:00:26  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client 146 (Orange) is planetm4ker, in company 1 (psg200)
11:00:26  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client 150 (Orange) is Train, in company 1 (psg200)
11:00:27  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client 152 is Vinnie, a spectator
11:01:44  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001F83C:
11:04:12  <PublicServer> <scrlk> planet you still here?
11:04:21  <planetmaker> it built itself
11:04:28  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ?
11:04:46  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> so... whoever made those tracks maglev: please make it back to rail tracks. NOW
11:04:48  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> thank you
11:05:08  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> it will be converted when finished
11:05:29  <PublicServer> <scrlk> can i connect the 2 segments?
11:06:51  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> holy cow? Can I PLEASE build my hub now?
11:06:57  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> without CONSTANTLY getting interference?
11:07:25  <PublicServer> *** scrlk has left the game (connection lost)
11:07:39  <scrlk> ffs
11:07:49  <scrlk> oh well i guve up on this server, it keeps dropping
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11:12:05  <PublicServer> <Intexon> hello
11:12:15  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hi
11:12:19  <PublicServer> <Train> hello
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11:14:40  <sample> !password
11:14:40  <PublicServer> sample: blight
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11:22:05  <ppetak> !players
11:22:08  <PublicServer> ppetak: Client 154 (Orange) is Intexon, in company 1 (psg200)
11:22:08  <PublicServer> ppetak: Client 156 (Orange) is sample, in company 1 (psg200)
11:22:08  <PublicServer> ppetak: Client 141 is tycoondemon, a spectator
11:22:08  <PublicServer> ppetak: Client 146 (Orange) is planetm4ker, in company 1 (psg200)
11:22:08  <PublicServer> ppetak: Client 150 (Orange) is Train, in company 1 (psg200)
11:22:09  <PublicServer> ppetak: Client 152 is Vinnie, a spectator
11:22:20  <ppetak> !password
11:22:20  <PublicServer> ppetak: swords
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11:23:04  <PublicServer> <ppetak> Hi all
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11:49:34  <scrlk> !password
11:49:34  <PublicServer> scrlk: demure
11:49:39  <scrlk> hi all
11:49:45  <PublicServer> *** scrlk joined the game
11:49:48  <PublicServer> <ppetak> hi scrlk
11:50:02  <PublicServer> <scrlk> hows 04 going planet?
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11:50:08  <PublicServer> <scrlk> hi ppetak
11:50:18  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> it's working out. slowly. as expected
11:50:28  <PublicServer> <scrlk> guess you are on the hub?
11:50:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> elo
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11:50:46  <PublicServer> <scrlk> hi v
11:51:04  <PublicServer> <ppetak> hola
11:51:35  <PublicServer> <scrlk> did someone fund the factory by the 4 way at 04?
11:54:00  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> viva la spaghetti hub!
11:54:26  <PublicServer> <scrlk> *pat on the back*
11:54:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
11:58:25  <PublicServer> <scrlk> pm, why do you prefer to build in elrail then convert to maglev?
11:58:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> better visible
11:58:37  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ^
11:58:43  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
11:58:53  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ive touched up the 04 plan
11:59:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets give an attempt to the eastern merge
12:00:28  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I guess spaghetti is PRETTY old school :-P
12:00:34  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
12:00:34  <PublicServer> <scrlk> +1
12:01:45  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002024C:
12:03:13  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> scrlk: do you care to copy the plan for island 04 to !plan 04 here?
12:03:23  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> keep the old version for now, though
12:03:23  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
12:03:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> could go even to water
12:03:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> would be best imo actually :)
12:03:39  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> there it doesn't hurt at all
12:03:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> anything goes
12:04:00  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok i tfed a large pan island
12:04:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> pm: east done
12:04:41  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ty
12:04:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> it definitely is old I think :)
12:05:31  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> will do I guess ;-)
12:05:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> it used to do
12:05:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> so it should do now :p
12:05:47  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yeah
12:06:16  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined spectators
12:06:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will come soon
12:06:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya for now :p
12:06:28  <PublicServer> <Train> bye
12:06:40  <PublicServer> <scrlk> plan transfered raze plan
12:06:44  <PublicServer> <scrlk> keep signs
12:07:24  <PublicServer> <Train> Can I copy rest of plan?
12:07:39  <PublicServer> <scrlk> what do you mean
12:07:43  <PublicServer> <Train> -->signs...
12:07:56  <PublicServer> <scrlk> im ok thanks :)
12:08:13  <PublicServer> <scrlk> whats the key command to clear all of your screen?
12:08:22  <PublicServer> <Train> ?
12:08:43  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> scrlk: did I not ask you specifically to keep the old plan?
12:09:03  <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh i thought after i transfered we would raze it
12:09:21  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> please start to atually pay attention to what others say and not guess the rest on the first three words
12:09:32  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> don't worry now. But it's definitely not the first time
12:09:35  <PublicServer> <scrlk> do you want me to re build it?
12:10:00  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> btw: copy means: copy. Not just the tracks, but also additional info
12:10:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> we dont need signs
12:10:11  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i renamed stations
12:10:11  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> who built what is of no relevance to a plan
12:11:28  <PublicServer> <Train> delete old signs?
12:11:34  <PublicServer> <scrlk> no
12:11:38  <PublicServer> <Train> ok
12:11:42  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> sure. Those which belong(ed) to the plan
12:11:51  <PublicServer> <scrlk> keep the insland info
12:11:55  <PublicServer> <Train> old deleted plan
12:11:57  <PublicServer> <scrlk> island
12:12:01  <PublicServer> <Train> yes
12:12:29  <PublicServer> <scrlk> pm should i move the island information?
12:12:46  <PublicServer> <Train> to new plan?
12:12:50  <PublicServer> <scrlk> forget it
12:13:07  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ive finished
12:13:43  <PublicServer> <scrlk> pm, do you like the plan?
12:15:20  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i will finish plan
12:15:24  <PublicServer> <scrlk> please dont touch
12:15:30  <PublicServer> <Train> :)
12:16:45  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001DE3C:
12:18:09  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm. How many tiles can the maglev climb w/o velocity loss. 3TT I guess infinitely, right, V?
12:18:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> infinite
12:18:44  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> good. There'll be some steep ones :-P
12:20:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> scrlk: when you transfer plan, it is expected that you copy it
12:20:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> but meh
12:20:48  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i did copy it :S
12:20:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> no, it is different
12:21:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> shape is the same
12:21:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
12:21:17  <PublicServer> <scrlk> goods drop hooks round do i did that
12:21:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> schematically yes but ...
12:21:22  <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh well
12:21:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> it doesnt matter much in this case but it migh sometime else
12:21:50  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> scrlk: I think the point is the station size
12:22:00  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> the tracks are ok and the same I think
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12:22:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> bte the long line from factory to hub is kinda ridiculous then, if you looked at the current positioning, as you claim you did at goods drop
12:22:16  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> because the station placement is important to a plan, too
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12:23:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite
12:25:10  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Oh, I'll like this hub :-)
12:25:34  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> every single track hand crafted and hand welded and put into place by slave labour...
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12:26:19  <Renze> hi!
12:26:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hello
12:26:41  <Renze> Is there a way to login internally in OpenTTD so I can change the settings "the easy way" via the menu on my dedicated server?
12:27:34  <Vinnie> yes create a game with your setting in singleplayer
12:27:39  <Vinnie> save it.
12:27:48  <Vinnie> in dedicated server type dir
12:27:51  <scrlk> lol
12:27:54  <Vinnie> then load 2
12:28:01  <scrlk> !password
12:28:01  <PublicServer> scrlk: sidles
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12:28:52  <PublicServer> <scrlk> v do you want me to shorten the distance between 4 way and factory?
12:28:56  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 1 tile?
12:30:07  <PublicServer> <scrlk> in the plan how long should 4way to factory be?
12:30:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> answer yourself
12:30:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 2 tiles?
12:30:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
12:30:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> you have 2 options
12:30:45  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yes
12:30:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> a) look at autosave and copy it properly
12:31:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> b) look at current state of the island and make it accordingly
12:31:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i dont autosave
12:31:20  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i turned it off
12:31:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> we do
12:31:37  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok i think ive finished it
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12:32:04  <PublicServer> <scrlk> v what do you thinl?
12:32:15  <Renze> How can I set that industries never dissappear?
12:32:40  <V453000> hardly
12:33:00  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> renze: via newgrf
12:33:35  <PublicServer> <scrlk> this is what i remeber
12:33:39  <PublicServer> <scrlk> *remember
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12:34:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> remember what? :o
12:34:26  <PublicServer> <scrlk> the
12:34:30  <PublicServer> <scrlk> the plan
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12:34:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> when you copy something, you do not need to remember it
12:35:01  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i copied it exactly when i first did it
12:35:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats kind of the point of copying
12:35:03  <Renze> planetmaker: Should I download something or is it standard or ...?
12:35:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> no you did not
12:35:21  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> renze: do you know what a newgrf is?
12:35:26  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok what did i do wrong
12:35:27  <Renze> yes
12:35:42  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> well. No newgrf comes with vanilla openttd
12:36:00  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> there are a few on bannas / online content though
12:36:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, you can prevent industries from dying with manual industries
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12:36:19  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> the name should be obvious for the simple case that you only want to modify the default industries: manual industries
12:36:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> but that also disables them from growing, which I believe you dont want
12:36:32  <scrlk> !password
12:36:32  <PublicServer> scrlk: heaped
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12:36:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> could first set them not to die, connect all of them, and then allow growing ... since they wont die then
12:37:14  <Renze> sounds like too much work :P
12:37:27  <Renze> i'll just set that we can create new industries ourselves so we can replace them
12:37:42  <Renze> which is of course not as nice and costs some money, but well
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12:41:23  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok i think ive fixed the 04 plan
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12:42:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> having like 8 extra signs just for nothing is also kind of obstacling in the plan where you want to have it clear :p
12:42:45  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
12:42:49  <PublicServer> <scrlk> just the status of the plan
12:43:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> everybody can see that
12:43:09  <PublicServer> *** scrlk has joined spectators
12:43:11  <scrlk> ok
12:43:22  <scrlk> is it ok now v?
12:43:29  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> V? ready for another merge?
12:43:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> why me? :D
12:43:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> but well why not :p
12:43:57  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> dunno ;-) You did the first
12:44:07  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> oye!
12:44:10  <scrlk> why v? becuase if you get it wrong, hes the one that bitches :D
12:44:27  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yeah :-P
12:44:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> s/bitches/tries to help
12:44:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> mby
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12:45:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> TF, YA
12:46:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> pm: could even use single tunnels many times
12:46:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> but thats kinda late now :p
12:46:26  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> nah. not proper
12:46:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> no need to be THAT old :D
12:46:46  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001BE6A:
12:46:54  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> that wasn't proper at any time!
12:46:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> well it used to do :p
12:47:00  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> nor will ever be
12:47:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> well of course, it shouldnt :)
12:47:09  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> work != proper
12:47:11  <PublicServer> <scrlk> pm you finished up yet?
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12:49:56  <PublicServer> <scrlk> holy sh!t thats some 4 way hub
12:51:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw
12:51:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> we are missing something at factory
12:51:16  <PublicServer> <scrlk> where is the sawmill going to be?
12:51:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> pickup :D
12:51:29  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
12:51:35  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> haha :-)
12:51:45  <PublicServer> <scrlk> v made an error? omfg
12:51:47  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> not my task :-P
12:51:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
12:51:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> I could just split it in half
12:52:01  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ive added a wtf sign ;)
12:52:15  <PublicServer> <scrlk> just for you v
12:52:36  <PublicServer> <scrlk> :D
12:52:38  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> be a bit careful with your not-so-well-placed sarcasm scrlk
12:52:46  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
12:52:50  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> your contributions certainly were not more valuable than V's
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12:53:14  <scrlk> !password
12:53:14  <PublicServer> scrlk: allots
12:53:27  <scrlk> so right
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12:55:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> k
12:55:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets say I wanted it this way
12:56:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> its kinda ewwy but meh
12:56:19  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and you want to know how hard the spanking will be? :-P
12:56:29  <scrlk> why is my connection lost?
12:56:34  <scrlk> keeps dropping
12:56:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> worst is, the eastern merge will get none of the goods trains
12:56:43  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> alternating?
12:56:47  <Rubidium> scrlk: probably an unstable network connection?
12:57:00  <scrlk> nope its rock solid
12:57:08  <scrlk> never down or a problem
12:57:33  <Rubidium> it depends on what you characterise as "rock solid"
12:57:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> well rocks also disintegrate with time
12:58:22  <scrlk> umm
12:58:37  <scrlk> plastic in a vaccum solid
12:58:56  <scrlk> :D
12:58:57  <Rubidium> e.g. my wireless works seemingly perfectly fine, however sometimes there's interference with one of the "neighbours" and it loses some packets. For some reason the TCP/IP stack can't recover/resend those packets in time for OpenTTD
13:00:20  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Did I mention that diagonal terraform helps here really a lot, Rubidium? ;-)
13:01:46  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001C063:
13:01:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> pm: I removed the factory goods pickup -> east connection
13:01:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> wont be needed
13:01:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> just fyi :)
13:02:51  <Rubidium> speaking of diagonal iterators; fonsinchen, any idea about FS#4395? As far as I can see the iteration logic hasn't changed from your code, so maybe you can shed some light on it
13:02:52  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> oh, that's bad :-(
13:02:56  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> It's a principle!
13:03:06  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-P
13:03:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, the other connections have the merger connected so they will be happier :p
13:03:38  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> indeed
13:04:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm
13:06:02  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yes!
13:06:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets do some fun with sawmill
13:06:23  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I think the principle task of building the hub is done now :-)
13:06:27  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Now the tedious ;-)
13:06:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> duh :)
13:06:47  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> well. As estimated 2-3 hours ;-)
13:07:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> I was building boost factory for about 5 I think
13:07:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe a bit less, but a lot
13:07:33  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> except if you want to build another merger, V, there's one left ;-)
13:07:35  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-P
13:07:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> im arsing myself by a sawmill now
13:07:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> :p
13:07:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> you could do the last celebrational one :P
13:07:58  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> k :-) I guess I can build the 4th
13:09:25  <fonsinchen> Rubidium: I'll have a look
13:12:09  <scrlk> !password
13:12:09  <PublicServer> scrlk: lentil
13:12:13  <scrlk> im back baby
13:12:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi baby
13:12:34  <scrlk> how you doing dear?
13:12:35  <PublicServer> *** scrlk joined the game
13:13:01  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 4 way hub is completed?
13:13:33  <PublicServer> <scrlk> Who is building sawmill?
13:13:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> some noob
13:13:49  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
13:13:59  <PublicServer> <scrlk> you are such a nice person
13:14:16  <SmatZ> :D
13:15:01  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well is guess v is that noob then :D
13:15:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> I never call others noobs
13:15:26  <PublicServer> <scrlk> you called yourself one?
13:15:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats not others..
13:15:46  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i know i was making a statement
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13:16:30  <PublicServer> <scrlk> someone needs to connect goods drop
13:16:46  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001EA8F:
13:18:11  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i like your statuon layout v
13:18:15  <PublicServer> <scrlk> station
13:18:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, thanks :)
13:18:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> oldschool interpretation
13:19:08  <PublicServer> <scrlk> you got a place for drop and pickup>
13:20:27  <PublicServer> <scrlk> omnomnomnom onion rings
13:21:32  <PublicServer> <scrlk> im guessing this will be using defualt carriges aswell?
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13:21:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> what else
13:21:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> with maglev
13:21:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> :)
13:21:56  <PublicServer> <scrlk> just double checking
13:22:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> b tw: proposal
13:22:07  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
13:22:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> can we swap factory and sawmill?
13:22:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> sawmill station got too good in compare :D
13:22:22  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
13:22:30  <PublicServer> <scrlk> factory has more trains right?
13:22:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> hub-wise it does not matter and factory will probably be bigger
13:22:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
13:22:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> usually
13:22:48  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok go for it
13:22:54  <PublicServer> <scrlk> it would make sense
13:22:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> planetmaker? :)
13:23:12  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yesP
13:23:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> aww :) thx
13:23:28  <PublicServer> <scrlk> plan has been modified
13:23:41  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> lol
13:23:47  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> please update signs in hub
13:23:49  <PublicServer> <scrlk> whats so funny?
13:23:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe
13:23:57  <PublicServer> <scrlk> that plan is the only good thing i have done
13:24:09  <PublicServer> <scrlk> :D
13:24:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> wow thats getting to be some station
13:24:37  <PublicServer> <scrlk> where will the factory be?
13:24:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> damn
13:24:45  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol?
13:24:50  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> where plan says :-P
13:24:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> can you please stop being bothered by positions of industries?
13:25:10  <PublicServer> <scrlk> im sorry i just keep thinking ahead
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13:25:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> position of an industry is the least imporatnt thing
13:25:36  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok,ok
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13:27:15  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Halo.
13:27:17  <PublicServer> <scrlk> hi
13:27:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> loha
13:27:25  <PublicServer> <scrlk> loha?
13:27:33  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hola
13:27:41  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I've infected V.
13:27:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> :-)
13:27:45  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
13:27:59  <PublicServer> <scrlk> thats what happens if you gotget durex guys;.
13:28:08  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> that's what she says, Mazur;-)
13:29:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> re: sawmill why is it single platforms and not the glass arch?
13:29:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> because each 1 platform is different
13:29:57  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
13:29:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> 1 drop, 1 pickup, 1 drop, ...
13:30:03  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i see
13:30:09  <PublicServer> <scrlk> thanks :)
13:31:24  <PublicServer> <scrlk> could one imagine if openttdcoop was allowed to build a rail network in a 3rd would country in rl
13:31:47  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001B485:
13:31:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf?
13:31:57  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ?
13:33:33  <Vinnie> let me ask it nicely. how old are you scrlk?
13:33:45  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 18
13:33:57  <Vinnie> nice age. party boy
13:34:01  <Vinnie> :P
13:34:17  <scrlk> went from css/dods/tf2 to openttdcoop
13:34:31  <scrlk> got bored with em
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13:35:13  <scrlk> damn and snap
13:35:16  <scrlk> not again :/
13:35:29  <scrlk> !password
13:35:30  <PublicServer> scrlk: sprigs
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13:36:20  <scrlk> vinnie, why did you want to know my age in the first place
13:36:39  <PublicServer> <scrlk> pm, is your bbh done?
13:36:54  <^Spike^> it's done when it's done
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13:37:01  <^Spike^> usually signs indicate if it's done
13:37:09  <mfb-> hi
13:37:09  <^Spike^> and seeing that there is a WIP sign
13:37:14  <^Spike^> i doubt that it's done
13:37:14  <PublicServer> <scrlk> thats what they said about duke nukem forever
13:37:29  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 14 years later and its still not done
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13:37:54  <^Spike^> knowing pm and there is a WIP sign... it's not done yet
13:37:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> the hub might have actually taken about 14 openttd years
13:38:12  <scrlk> lol
13:38:15  <PublicServer> <Mazur> V, is that factory station not intended to be called" 04 Factory"?
13:38:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> meh
13:38:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> thx
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13:38:44  <Inder> huhu
13:38:45  <Inder> !password
13:38:46  <PublicServer> Inder: sprigs
13:39:09  <Inder> !download
13:39:09  <PublicServer> Inder: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x
13:39:09  <PublicServer> Inder:
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13:39:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> np, was just confused since I could not see how it'd would fit in with island 02 as I knew it.
13:39:31  <Inder> !download autostart win32
13:39:31  <PublicServer> Inder:
13:40:54  <Inder> !download autottd
13:40:54  <PublicServer> Inder:
13:41:04  <PublicServer> * planetm4ker refrains from answering questions with obvious answers
13:41:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> pm: how far oldschool is our goods drop? :\
13:41:56  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> gah. Who built an X?
13:41:57  <PublicServer> <scrlk> with the synced stations?
13:42:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> wat X
13:42:16  <PublicServer> <scrlk> btw v i liked your advanced station bulidng guide
13:42:18  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> at !here
13:42:20  <PublicServer> <Spike> ah..
13:42:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> not my stuff
13:42:34  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-P
13:42:54  <PublicServer> <Spike> that looks.. ehm... how to say it...
13:42:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Evil X could be old school.
13:43:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> you know why it is called evil
13:43:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> cause it was considered evil even back then :p
13:43:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess ...
13:43:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> cant remember since I wasnt there ofc :)
13:43:26  <PublicServer> <mfb> lets move the bridges
13:43:34  <PublicServer> <mfb> no need to build a new line
13:43:52  <PublicServer> <mfb> ugly TF :p
13:43:52  <PublicServer> <scrlk> is a 4 tile climb oldschool?
13:44:02  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i thought they used stepped climbing
13:44:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite
13:44:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> no need to put into that detail
13:44:58  <Inder> !password
13:44:58  <PublicServer> Inder: sprigs
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13:45:08  <PublicServer> <scrlk> we have done all this work on 04
13:45:12  <PublicServer> <scrlk> there are no farms
13:45:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> or forests
13:45:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> we fund new ?
13:45:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> If you build it, they will come.
13:45:38  <scrlk> ok
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13:46:47  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001EA69:
13:46:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> We've got 16 billiob in the loose change kitty, we can afford to do some things differently.
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13:47:03  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
13:47:15  <PublicServer> <mfb> two lines going to goods drop in the north
13:47:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> but 0 coming from there?
13:47:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah, here
13:47:35  <Ulkor> !password
13:47:35  <PublicServer> Ulkor: lazier
13:47:39  <PublicServer> <Mazur> See !from
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13:48:09  <PublicServer> <scrlk> we cant fund primaries can we?
13:48:11  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> any signals missing? or needless gaps?
13:48:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you can
13:48:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> at !Gap
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13:48:43  <scrlk> !password
13:48:44  <PublicServer> scrlk: lazier
13:48:54  <Inder> allright guys, u're sick
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13:49:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And you only noticed this now?
13:49:30  <Inder> no no, just want to say it from time to time :-P
13:49:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's ok, then.
13:50:11  <scrlk> how do you fund primary industries anyway?
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13:50:52  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm, no hope that the power plant will ever die :-PÜ
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13:51:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can place a DIE sign anyway :p
13:51:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> just for the rage
13:51:43  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> good :-P
13:51:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> yarr, thats the way
13:54:00  <XeryusTC> !dl win64
13:54:00  <PublicServer> XeryusTC:
13:55:16  <Inder> what means TTT?
13:55:22  <PublicServer> <mfb> two tile trains
13:55:29  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> three-tile-trains. or two-tile-trains
13:55:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> or ten.
13:55:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> :p
13:55:37  <Inder> ah, ok... ty
13:55:39  <Inder> :)
13:55:45  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> thirty
13:55:48  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-P
13:55:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> or This
13:56:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> ^_^ factory has no lame bridges now
13:57:04  <XeryusTC> !password
13:57:04  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: lazier
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13:57:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> sup bitches
13:57:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> yarr bitch
13:57:36  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
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13:57:58  <PublicServer> <Intexon> hi
13:58:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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13:58:36  <XeryusTC> bah, my game runs crappy
13:59:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> dutch game
13:59:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm
13:59:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw we should set a no PBS rule for oldschool :p
14:00:40  <Rubidium> if you need such a rule it's not oldschool enough ;)
14:01:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> he
14:01:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw Rubidium: what is the purpose of automatic orderS
14:01:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
14:01:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, cou can't patch out PBS for just one island.
14:01:39  <Inder> ok, i'm leaving. thanks for the insight. cu
14:01:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
14:01:47  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001AC59:
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14:01:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bye, Inder.
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14:02:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> yey white island suddenlt :)
14:02:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> suddenly
14:02:56  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yeah
14:02:59  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :P
14:03:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Que?
14:03:18  <Rubidium> V453000: making the vehicle list of stations that don't have manually ordered vehicles, but where vehicles do actually stop regularly, actually show those vehicles that stop there regularly
14:03:43  <Rubidium> e.g. when you make a stopper service by using non-non-stop orders between two major stations
14:03:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see
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14:04:45  <Rubidium> alternatively this should solve most of the issues with non-non-stop orders in case the cargo gets its own will
14:04:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: care to gift us with some oldschoolish station? :)
14:05:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh that bitch left
14:05:58  <V453000> Rubidium: is it possible that the automatic orders would affect the behaviour of trains?
14:05:59  <PublicServer> <Mazur> He snuck out to retain his sanity.  As if his sanity is anything worthwhile.
14:06:27  <Rubidium> V453000: if you're using a buggy version of it yes, but it shouldn't affect their behaviour
14:06:36  <V453000> I see
14:07:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh, yes, seems to work
14:07:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> forgot I made a testcase :)
14:07:42  <Rubidium> though there was a bug a while ago that made it mess up a bit in some cases
14:07:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, I reported it :)
14:08:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> we have the fixed nightly atm
14:10:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyone to build the powerplant / steel mill?
14:11:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> (not me.)
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14:15:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> mfb / Mazur / Intexon / Vinnie ? :)
14:15:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyone?
14:15:53  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
14:16:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> 04 power plant + steel mill
14:16:22  <PublicServer> <Intexon> no thanks :)
14:16:42  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm why not
14:16:47  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00017231:
14:17:00  <PublicServer> <Intexon> I don't feel like building a Xeryus-style entry and I don't think anything else would fit
14:17:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> the hill is bad
14:17:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> TF: free
14:18:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> and the additional oil refinery doesn't help ;)
14:18:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> he
14:18:59  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-D
14:19:21  <PublicServer> <mfb> +tunnel slarhill ?
14:19:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm barely hanging on in new school, I've no idea of old school except you guys use te term.
14:19:27  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> mfb: when I started the hub, a coal mine, factory, ore mine and a power plant were build in the space ;-)
14:20:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: just use the weird combo signalling or similar and we can declare it old
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14:22:45  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sorry, V, it's a no go atm.
14:24:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> is the layout we used at drop5/6/3 in psg199 oldschool enough?
14:25:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> :/
14:25:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> would fit in and for the drop, the balancing at the hub should be sufficient
14:25:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> but you have also a pickup
14:26:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> so lines will not be full
14:26:15  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Vinnie has 30 more minutes of homework
14:26:17  <PublicServer> <mfb> should not be a problem...
14:26:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> and the combosignal balancing is kinda simple and  shows the oldschool nature
14:26:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> will do it after thatke?
14:26:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> how?
14:26:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> look at factory
14:26:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> a lot of comboes
14:26:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> could be considered blocking nowadays
14:27:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> parallel platforms need a large area
14:28:06  <PublicServer> <mfb> +entry, too
14:29:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> havent said anything about platform layout :)
14:30:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> or just like the goods drop
14:30:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> that isnt oldschool at all
14:30:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> and is tardedly simple
14:30:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> the point of oldschool should be something that isnt used anymore
14:30:38  <PublicServer> <Mazur> +re
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14:31:17  <scrlk> !password
14:31:17  <PublicServer> scrlk: purify
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14:31:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> otherwise it is just a casual thing called oldschool without a reason
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14:31:43  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yey 04 is done!
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14:31:48  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002760F:
14:32:04  <PublicServer> <mfb> 3 of 4 sides
14:32:14  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
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14:33:00  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> wth is island 11?!
14:33:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> fun :)
14:33:12  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Fun for some.
14:33:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> noticed just now? :D
14:33:12  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
14:33:16  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yeah
14:33:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Was the first build.
14:33:28  <PublicServer> <scrlk> on 04 can we fund industry yet?
14:33:30  <PublicServer> <Mazur> *tsk*
14:33:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
14:33:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> was build in 1 night :)
14:33:45  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hehe
14:33:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> By dwarves, with magic.
14:34:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> :p
14:34:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> im a dwarf :)
14:34:03  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> aaaw
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14:35:18  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> this is an awesome concept, V453000 which you made for this game :-)
14:35:24  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> it should be played more often
14:35:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> thanks :)
14:35:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> but that would lose the ponit of being so celebrational :p
14:35:47  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> for the next time: yes
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14:35:53  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> but that's a long time till then
14:35:58  <scrlk> shame coop doesnt play games where everything is served :(
14:36:01  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and it will need to be something else anyway
14:36:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> 300? :p
14:36:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> 300 has to be SPARTA
14:36:27  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> it's really cool: it allows so many different things, everyone can do more or less his/her favourite stuff
14:36:31  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, please, lets use a more uniform concept for regular games, so lil ol' me can join in a bit more without drowning.
14:36:31  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and it works together
14:36:35  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yes, 300
14:36:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> yea
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14:36:43  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> last one was 100. so...
14:36:47  <scrlk> what about 300?
14:36:59  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and 100 was a total retro with version 0.4.5 or so
14:37:06  <scrlk> there should be a giant pit in game 300
14:37:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> cant say I can imagine how will the 300 game aka SPARTA look, but ... :D
14:37:22  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> V453000: no one can :-)
14:37:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess enough time for that :)
14:37:37  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> It will probably be... dunno late in the OpenTTD 1.2 era or so
14:37:51  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yeah
14:37:57  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sparta was known for its sparsity and men loving boys.
14:38:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats gay
14:38:30  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Mazur:the latter was not typical of sparta
14:38:36  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> it was typical of ancient Greek as a whole
14:38:50  <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe minimal [something]
14:39:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> Intexon: it is you at TTT Refinery and Power Plant?
14:39:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> rails? roads? terraforming?
14:39:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> it will take another 2 years to get to game 300
14:39:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
14:39:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> damn dude :D
14:39:15  <PublicServer> <Intexon> it is :P
14:39:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> should have kept that
14:39:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> you could have just done the exit the other way
14:39:27  <PublicServer> <Intexon> I know
14:39:33  <PublicServer> <Intexon> but I want it that way
14:39:37  <PublicServer> <Intexon> :P
14:39:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> that way sucks anyway
14:39:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is imo better
14:39:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> so that it mixes them around
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14:40:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> but well, it is dead already anyway
14:40:31  <planetmaker> ok, I also have to do some homework still :-) See you later folks. Was true fun again to play :-)
14:40:38  <PublicServer> <scrlk> bye pm
14:40:40  <PublicServer> <Mazur> See ya.
14:40:42  <PublicServer> <mfb> cu
14:40:44  <PublicServer> <scrlk> thanks for the bbh
14:40:46  <PublicServer> <Intexon> bye
14:41:03  <V453000> cya :)
14:41:35  <scrlk> i remember when i first picked up openttd
14:41:40  <scrlk> was back in the 0.52 days
14:41:48  <scrlk> such a long time ago
14:41:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> intexon: there needs to be a SLH too btw
14:42:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> the BBH might be oversized as well though
14:42:41  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm going to use a mineral drop station for a livestock drop, once, just be be inappropriate.
14:42:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> im guessing on 04 we need to connect/fund primaries
14:42:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> 04 we need power plant/steel mill
14:43:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> we cant fund primaries can we?
14:43:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> scrlk: There's still a DROP station needing building.
14:43:24  <PublicServer> <scrlk> where?
14:43:30  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> powerstation
14:43:40  <PublicServer> <scrlk> we need to fund it
14:43:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> East side, I think.
14:43:52  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yep
14:44:02  <PublicServer> <scrlk> according to the plan
14:44:18  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Those two tile platforms lookso wrong.  :-)
14:44:36  <uliko> V453000: The only reason a flip/flop fails is because not enough time for the not gate to respond (aka too fast trains and too few tiles that the not gate checks) right?
14:44:56  <V453000> yes unless avdg builds it
14:45:00  <PublicServer> <scrlk> wth
14:45:03  <uliko> Haha
14:45:04  <PublicServer> <scrlk> new refeniry on 04
14:45:06  <uliko> Thanks
14:45:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> np
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14:47:58  <PublicServer> <Intexon> please do not interfere in my building
14:48:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> intexon: we still should need to move the station as much to the east as possible
14:48:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sorry.
14:48:08  <PublicServer> <Intexon> especially if you do it the wrong way :P
14:48:41  <PublicServer> <Intexon> there is enough room for the exit isn't it?
14:48:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> we totally need the space there
14:48:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, there is space for exit but not much for a slh
14:49:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> still, there would be just dead space :|
14:49:24  <PublicServer> <Intexon> yup, just realised which way east is :P
14:49:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
14:49:41  <PublicServer> <Mazur> In space, noone can smell you're dead.
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14:50:39  <scrlk> !password
14:50:39  <PublicServer> scrlk: dredge
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14:53:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> true thx
14:53:36  <PublicServer> <scrlk> wheres the work being done now?
14:53:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> that shrunk the hub :)
14:54:17  <PublicServer> *** anyone has left the game (connection lost)
15:01:29  <PublicServer> <Intexon> hey
15:01:32  <PublicServer> <Intexon> let me do it
15:01:48  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002844D:
15:02:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> im wondering how else :)
15:02:45  <PublicServer> <Intexon> I'm not wondering how else, but how to stuff there a tunnel :D
15:02:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> you cant
15:03:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats why I made that bridge
15:03:50  <PublicServer> <Intexon> okay, giving up
15:04:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> these dont fit
15:04:08  <PublicServer> <scrlk> how does one fund a primary industry
15:04:08  <PublicServer> <Intexon> I know
15:04:23  <PublicServer> <Intexon> that's the reason they are the pickup ones with overflow
15:04:26  <PublicServer> <mfb> you can't at the moment
15:04:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, but they still cant be blocking :)
15:04:59  <PublicServer> <Intexon> just don't put that signal in there
15:04:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> this way maybe?
15:05:08  <PublicServer> <Intexon> ye
15:05:16  <PublicServer> <scrlk> where is the work being done?
15:05:24  <PublicServer> <Intexon> TTT island
15:05:34  <PublicServer> <scrlk> thanks
15:05:49  <PublicServer> <scrlk> two tile trains?
15:05:57  <PublicServer> <scrlk> im guessing high capacity?
15:08:30  <PublicServer> <Intexon> overflow at the drop isn't needed imo
15:08:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> shouldnt be
15:09:49  <PublicServer> <Intexon> I've got to go
15:10:02  <PublicServer> <Intexon> will you please connect the overflow as well?
15:10:04  <PublicServer> <scrlk> bye
15:10:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
15:10:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
15:10:13  <PublicServer> <mfb> only one overflow?
15:10:29  <PublicServer> <Intexon> only at pickup
15:10:45  <PublicServer> <Intexon> see you
15:10:45  <PublicServer> <scrlk> nice station at ttt
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15:10:53  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 45 deg turns allowed?
15:10:59  <PublicServer> <mfb> wtf
15:11:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> that's broken
15:11:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> should be like that
15:11:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf.
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15:12:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> fixed sync at both sides at the same time -> desync again
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15:12:53  <PublicServer> <scrlk> can i connect the station to the bbh
15:13:23  <PublicServer> <scrlk> please?
15:15:00  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok connected station now
15:15:35  <PublicServer> <mfb> slh
15:15:39  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
15:15:41  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ?
15:15:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
15:15:53  <PublicServer> <scrlk> god i hate monorail
15:15:55  <PublicServer> <scrlk> looks so ugly
15:16:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf are you doing
15:16:37  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ?
15:16:49  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002702D:
15:18:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm just watching the monorail fight at the OK corral.
15:18:12  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ?
15:19:15  <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (connection lost)
15:19:22  <mfb-> !password
15:19:22  <PublicServer> mfb-: ambles
15:19:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That wqas a joke, scrlk.  I often make jokes.
15:19:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> bad jokes. :p
15:19:33  <PublicServer> <scrlk> you funny man
15:19:37  <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game
15:20:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not all of them are good jokes.
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15:22:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> god damn
15:22:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> can you just stop?
15:22:36  <PublicServer> <scrlk> u mad?
15:22:48  <PublicServer> <scrlk> who is f***ing around at ttt?
15:23:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not I.
15:23:16  <PublicServer> <scrlk> v?
15:23:46  <PublicServer> <scrlk> wth
15:24:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is a tunnel please
15:24:22  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i know what is going on there
15:24:44  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ooh
15:26:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes freedom  !!!! Done with my homework
15:26:12  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
15:26:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> playtime
15:26:22  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Congrats.
15:26:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> 04 drop waited for you patiently
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15:26:39  <PublicServer> <scrlk> enjoy those 2 reports?
15:26:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> or I might say lazily, given the attitude of its builders
15:26:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you also reset welcome server. So i have a problem. what to do
15:27:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> kidding?
15:27:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> welcome server is still kind of ... lame :p
15:27:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats why i should play there :)
15:27:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
15:28:48  <PublicServer> <scrlk> where are we going to get oil on ttt>
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15:28:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> when the whole network is ready
15:29:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> and dont even look at those oil rigs near 11
15:29:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> scrlk: wanna help me with 04 powerplant drop
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15:29:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so V gets a break :)
15:29:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> okok lets do this
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15:29:53  <PublicServer> <scrlk> LEEROY JENKIS!
15:29:59  <PublicServer> <scrlk> :D
15:30:02  <hylje> wrong gamem
15:30:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> (fyi i dont play wow)
15:30:25  <PublicServer> <scrlk> #
15:30:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw make it as east as possible
15:30:45  <PublicServer> <scrlk> re:  oil, we could fund an oil well?
15:30:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> so that we have space for SLH
15:30:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> or 2
15:31:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> oil wells are possibility too
15:31:04  <PublicServer> <scrlk> or those oil rigs near 11
15:31:06  <PublicServer> <scrlk> :D
15:31:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> talking abou 04 powerpllant V?
15:31:14  <PublicServer> <scrlk> we cant fund primaries
15:31:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: arr
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15:32:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmm oldskool
15:32:24  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i woulnt touch oldschool
15:32:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> just make entrances with combo signals and it is old
15:32:29  <PublicServer> <scrlk> its v's first born son
15:32:31  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :)
15:32:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf?
15:32:52  <PublicServer> <scrlk> look at all the work he put in ffs
15:33:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> no, my holy territory is island 16
15:33:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you claimed it
15:33:46  <PublicServer> <scrlk> wth is overflows
15:33:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> nobody invaded :p
15:34:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you build it full in one night
15:34:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2
15:34:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> who can claim that fast :)
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15:34:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> well Absolutis tried
15:34:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> but since he failed at building an overflow it was shortly over
15:34:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> but meh
15:34:58  <PublicServer> <scrlk> how come we have one ship
15:35:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> didn't he get any lessons from you?
15:35:12  <PublicServer> <Train> ship is eyecandy
15:35:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: if the lessons would be of any use, he would
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15:36:48  <PublicServer> <scrlk> we need oil on 13
15:37:03  <PublicServer> <scrlk> look near fonningstone
15:37:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> we need something like that
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15:38:50  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lost
15:38:53  <PublicServer> <scrlk> any work being done atm?
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15:39:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> vinnie at oldschool?
15:40:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw 6 platforms is kinda low
15:41:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> for Lev4 especially
15:41:08  <PublicServer> <scrlk> +1
15:41:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you all have 6 platforms for goods
15:41:30  <PublicServer> <scrlk> why are there no oil wells in this game
15:41:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> well you could do a 6 platform drop
15:41:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> *steel pickup
15:41:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You asked that before, and it was answered then.
15:41:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> drop might need a little bit more, dont know
15:42:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ahh did miss steel in the plan
15:42:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> its ok
15:42:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> just make this a pickup
15:42:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> and add a larger drop
15:42:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> 6 platforms for steel is way enough
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15:46:25  <PublicServer> <scrlk> on 04
15:46:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> the iron ore mine has died
15:46:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> fuck
15:46:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> can you please stop caring about the industries?
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15:46:59  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
15:47:07  <PublicServer> <scrlk> v, do you have any emotions but hate?
15:47:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
15:47:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> passionate hate
15:47:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> massive hate
15:47:28  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
15:47:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> and more
15:47:36  <PublicServer> <scrlk> except for shades of hate
15:47:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lucky miss V435000
15:47:40  <PublicServer> <scrlk> and rage
15:48:26  <PublicServer> <Mazur> He does, but let me ask this: Do you ever read and try to learn from what people tell you, or are just just maddicted to asking annoying irrelevant questions?
15:48:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: you hater.
15:48:56  <PublicServer> <Mazur> s/just/you/
15:49:11  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Gill-tea.
15:49:59  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well i try
15:50:10  <PublicServer> <scrlk> haters gonna hate
15:50:18  <PublicServer> <Mazur> To learn to to be annoying?
15:50:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Because that's still unclear to me.
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15:58:55  <Ryton> wow, buzy!
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16:01:57  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Appearances can be deceptive.
16:02:07  <PublicServer> <scrlk> +1
16:05:22  <PublicServer> <scrlk> who is at 04 atm?
16:05:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> I
16:05:38  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok i will help at the exit
16:06:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: this is the spirit how the entry should look like
16:06:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> there
16:06:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you wanted lots of combos
16:06:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
16:06:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> now there are
16:07:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is the old style
16:07:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is what makes it different :p
16:07:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :)
16:09:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> right now its up to you to connect the exit
16:09:39  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Is 2 combos in a row on a single track also old-school?
16:09:41  <scrlk> :)
16:09:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: kind of
16:10:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> really easy scrlk. I
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16:10:22  <uliko> 1-way after 2-way combo style :p
16:10:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> yarr :p
16:11:17  <PublicServer> <Mazur> V: I just don't see what good the scond one does.
16:11:25  <scrlk> according to the ottc wiki, 'free tf' allows flattening mountains
16:11:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> at factory?
16:11:45  <uliko> Just because you're allowed to flatten the entire map doesnt mean you should
16:11:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> the 2way makes the eol, 1way makes it not detectable from beind
16:12:02  <PublicServer> <scrlk> can i convert to maglev?
16:12:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2ways used to be key with NPF
16:12:26  <PublicServer> <Mazur> V: Ok, I get that.  But two one-way combos still make no sense.
16:12:29  <uliko> V453000: back then it was PF issues though right?
16:12:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> even though we have YAPF now, we still can build it that way :)
16:12:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
16:12:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: the two oneways can be just that the second one could let the train wait at it
16:13:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> if it gets red
16:13:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> we will see how it will work after all
16:13:21  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hmm, yes.
16:13:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> But I reiterate the sign !
16:14:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
16:14:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> well thats wrong indeed
16:14:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Thank you.
16:14:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> but schematically, the whole entrance is a combo behind combo
16:15:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, and with a voudl entrance,I see hte point.
16:15:15  <PublicServer> <Mazur> double
16:15:31  <scrlk> on 04 i renamed statiosbn
16:15:34  <scrlk> *stations
16:16:50  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00020607:
16:17:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> we do not name farms
16:17:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> but doesnt hurt
16:17:38  <PublicServer> <scrlk> sorry v
16:17:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> a GR/LV is enough usually
16:17:46  <PublicServer> <scrlk> just did it for convience
16:17:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> nothing wrong really
16:18:02  <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh so its good?
16:18:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
16:18:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> not bad doesnt mean good
16:18:32  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
16:18:42  <PublicServer> <scrlk> were the farms funded?
16:20:57  <PublicServer> <scrlk> out of all the inlands, 04 is my fav
16:21:48  <PublicServer> <Train> my one is 15
16:22:15  <PublicServer> <scrlk> can we delete the excess depots at 4 yet?
16:22:34  <Sylf> !password
16:22:35  <PublicServer> Sylf: lavish
16:22:52  <PublicServer> <Train> hello
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16:22:54  <PublicServer> <Sylf> 'llo
16:22:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
16:22:58  <PublicServer> <scrlk> hi
16:22:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hi
16:23:02  <PublicServer> <scrlk> hhola
16:23:50  <PublicServer> <scrlk> why does 04 farm 1 have a 1tile station?
16:24:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no service
16:24:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> to reach the farm
16:25:01  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 04 looks slightly empty
16:25:11  <PublicServer> <Sylf> hehe, nice PSB
16:25:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> no PSB is nice
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16:25:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> hey Vinnie, your crap doesnt accept coal :PPP
16:25:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> build a power station please
16:26:14  <PublicServer> <scrlk> done
16:26:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oldskool is crap island so get over the fact that the station doesn't work
16:26:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
16:26:51  <PublicServer> <scrlk> you mad?
16:26:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and look at your factory drop
16:26:58  <PublicServer> <scrlk> thats old school
16:26:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no not mad
16:27:06  <PublicServer> <scrlk> seen the early games?
16:27:14  <PublicServer> <scrlk> they had huge stations
16:27:17  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> noo i dont like oldskool
16:27:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> the point is, it actually might work
16:27:37  <PublicServer> <scrlk> what would?
16:27:43  <PublicServer> <Train> 04 needs factory
16:27:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> on it
16:27:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Factory drop has 333 LV and 666 GR waiting
16:28:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> I was talking about the stations overall
16:28:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nice 2 factories
16:28:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is all linked to
16:28:21  <PublicServer> <Train> :)
16:28:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> the Lev4
16:28:35  <PublicServer> <scrlk> factory being built...
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16:28:49  <PublicServer> <Train> both...
16:28:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> they have so high speed and so bad acceleration that they should be able to get some punishment at the comboes
16:28:55  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
16:28:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> scrlk: O
16:28:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> M
16:28:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> G
16:29:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh crap...
16:29:11  <PublicServer> <scrlk> im in for this one
16:29:11  <PublicServer> <Train> ?
16:29:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> *gets flak jacket + helmet*
16:29:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> two factories build at 04 factory drop train
16:29:43  <PublicServer> <scrlk> damn you train
16:29:49  <PublicServer> <scrlk> you said there was no factory!
16:29:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> scrlk: next time you do anything, please rather talk to others, instead of fucking up
16:29:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> terraforming an island for factory is tarded
16:30:12  <PublicServer> <Train> there was no factory...
16:30:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> there is
16:30:20  <PublicServer> <Train> i said it..
16:30:22  <PublicServer> <scrlk> look north
16:30:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Train: indeed none
16:30:41  <PublicServer> <Train> you built  two
16:30:46  <PublicServer> <scrlk> there was one already
16:30:50  <PublicServer> <Train> no
16:30:54  <PublicServer> <scrlk> you i tfed an island
16:31:00  <PublicServer> <scrlk> *i
16:31:06  <PublicServer> <scrlk> and built one
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16:32:24  <PublicServer> <scrlk> v what was the method you used to get rid of transfer goods?
16:32:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> this game is gonna mess up my pc when its fully done
16:32:40  <PublicServer> <scrlk> so laggy?
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16:32:42  <PublicServer> <tneo> hello
16:32:42  <PublicServer> <Train> hello
16:32:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi tneo :)
16:32:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> hi teno
16:32:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so hard on cpu
16:32:51  <PublicServer> <scrlk> *tneo
16:32:57  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yeah its raping mine already
16:33:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> is there a way to lower the grapics?
16:33:33  <PublicServer> <scrlk> under the tools
16:33:43  <PublicServer> <scrlk> full details
16:33:45  <PublicServer> <scrlk> and animation
16:33:52  <PublicServer> <tneo> your better of with more cpu power ;-)
16:34:26  <PublicServer> <scrlk> what buy a new intel i5 2500k at 4.7 ghz and a ud4 just for ottd
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16:35:51  <PublicServer> <scrlk> who built the oil thingy?
16:36:17  <PublicServer> <scrlk> tut tut tut lots of tf there
16:36:41  <PublicServer> <Sylf> that's old school for oil rigs
16:36:46  <scrlk> ???
16:37:02  <scrlk> !password
16:37:02  <PublicServer> scrlk: abouts
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16:37:18  <scrlk> 04 has high tf on right?
16:37:27  <PublicServer> <Sylf> no
16:37:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> to quote the plan 'tf:free'
16:37:55  <PublicServer> <scrlk> according to the wiki this is another name for high
16:38:05  <PublicServer> <Sylf> you still don't TF unneededly
16:38:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i know
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16:38:26  <PublicServer> <scrlk> So you are free to flatten that mountain in order to build your station or network.
16:38:30  <PublicServer> <scrlk> High terraforming
16:38:40  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 'By far the most easy rule that is around. Also known as "free terraforming" and it allows you to terraform to your needs or pleasure. '
16:40:01  <PublicServer> <scrlk> is the wiki the definition for terraforming?
16:40:23  <planetmaker> the wiki is a wiki.
16:40:25  <PublicServer> <tneo> the wiki contains a definition yes
16:40:29  <planetmaker> by definition
16:40:43  <PublicServer> <scrlk> shoudl that be applied to the game?
16:40:46  <planetmaker> what tneo says is true, though
16:41:05  <PublicServer> <Sylf> take it with a grain of salt
16:41:28  <PublicServer> <Mazur> The default on TF for Coop games is very low amounts of TF.
16:41:28  <PublicServer> <tneo> yes those rules should be applied
16:41:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> If otherwise, it'll be stated explicitly in hte plans.
16:42:01  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok on 04 it says free tf
16:42:07  <PublicServer> <scrlk> which is = to high?
16:42:11  <PublicServer> <tneo> then your free
16:42:11  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, Free TL.
16:42:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> RTL = trainlength.
16:42:23  <planetmaker> scrlk, can you please, please, please not comment on every little detail? Just reading this constant 'omg, who did this?', 'oh, you terraformed', 'is this the rules?' 'is this really the rules'. It's plain maddening
16:42:23  <PublicServer> <tneo> but it doesn't mean flatten the map!
16:42:23  <PublicServer> <scrlk> tl=3
16:42:27  <PublicServer> <scrlk> tf3?
16:42:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> s/RTL/TL/
16:42:56  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oop. sorry, mising islands.
16:43:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> mixing
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16:43:54  <PublicServer> <Train> hello
16:43:56  <PublicServer> <Intexon> hi
16:43:58  <PublicServer> <scrlk> tbh if the wiki wasn't so scrambled in some areas i might not ask so many q's
16:44:00  <PublicServer> <scrlk> hi
16:44:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hi
16:44:09  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hey, Train.
16:44:15  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
16:44:22  <PublicServer> <Train> whats up?
16:44:28  <PublicServer> <tneo> suggestions for improving ar welcome scrlk
16:44:43  <PublicServer> <scrlk> it would be very harsh
16:45:06  <PublicServer> <scrlk> sorry but thats the truth coming from a new player
16:45:15  <planetmaker> scrlk, the wiki can't be as bad as you claim. It worked for me quite nicely...
16:45:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> it did for everybody
16:45:29  <planetmaker> and yes, a wiki is open to edits and suggestion
16:45:35  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yeah its ok when you can find up to date suggestions
16:45:41  <PublicServer> <scrlk> and ideas ect
16:45:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> V look at 16
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16:46:22  <planetmaker> scrlk, before I came here, 3 years ago, I read the wiki. Entirely I have to say. Worked nicely. And I have to say, my first big project wasn't shot down in flames by members back then
16:46:41  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ive read most of it
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16:46:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: what is wrong
16:46:54  <PublicServer> <scrlk> quite intresting but just somewhat hard to follow vs wikipedia
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16:47:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> a lot of trains stopping
16:47:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> is ok
16:47:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> they flow.
16:47:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> somehow
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16:47:36  <scrlk> what i find with the wiki is a lack of a unified agreed writing style
16:48:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok so you want to learn something and you care about writing style
16:48:11  <planetmaker> my thought :-)
16:48:27  <PublicServer> <Sylf> oh hey... 16 got switched from SH40 to AL10?
16:48:32  <scrlk> well im reading + taking in + understanding what is said
16:48:35  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I <3 that train
16:48:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> ya
16:48:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes.
16:48:53  <scrlk> but one of the critisims is the lack of uniformity
16:49:00  <scrlk> some places are  really good
16:49:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw
16:49:06  <PublicServer> <Mazur> V had an SH40 run over his foot so htey all had to go.
16:49:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is a wiki
16:49:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> so you can edit it
16:49:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wouldnt recommend it with your amount of knowledge though
16:49:25  <scrlk> exactly
16:49:50  <scrlk> i'd like some members to put their stuff down on the wiki though
16:49:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> ??
16:50:00  <scrlk> eg.
16:50:05  <scrlk> little lacking
16:50:09  <planetmaker> V453000, some of your blog articles might need to become wiki-fied ;-)
16:50:26  <V453000> hmfff
16:50:32  <scrlk> ive beeing reading v's articles and they are intresting
16:50:47  <scrlk> its what a new player would like on the wiki
16:50:51  <scrlk> if you know what i mean
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16:51:13  <PublicServer> <Sylf> actually, there's a host of other things I want to see for new comers
16:51:16  <planetmaker> well. Put them into the wiki then ;-)
16:51:22  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I've been trying to organize my thought on that
16:51:44  <PublicServer> <Sylf> and I get too lazy too quickly
16:51:48  <scrlk> one other problem i had was with the new players start guides; there are 3 of them by the looks of it
16:52:12  <V453000> pm: the problem is they usually expect the reader to have some knowledge already
16:52:14  <V453000> imo
16:52:29  <scrlk> +1
16:52:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> and even worse, experience
16:52:53  <scrlk> ive been on before so i have basic knowledge but even then i am overwhelmed
16:52:57  <planetmaker> V453000, not a problem. Not every wiki article needs to target 0-knowledge base
16:53:07  <V453000> true
16:53:17  <scrlk> it just needs to have an indicator about the skill level
16:53:19  <PublicServer> <Train> bye
16:53:23  <scrlk> bye
16:53:25  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> vya mx
16:53:26  <scrlk> !password
16:53:26  <PublicServer> scrlk: griefs
16:53:26  <planetmaker> bye Train
16:53:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
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16:53:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol why would you need an indicator of skill level
16:53:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> you read, you understand Yes/No
16:53:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> al is lvl 5 :P
16:54:03  <scrlk> out of all the articles in the wiki id say this is up there with the best
16:54:04  <scrlk>
16:54:28  <scrlk> this should link to the main ottd wiki
16:54:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> either way, the best way how to learn is to play.
16:55:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> alone or with us, one needs to try to build the stuff
16:55:29  <scrlk> yeah but i get shouted at and i dont get an explanation why
16:55:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont you
16:55:45  <scrlk> eg. your station is crap - why is it crap, how do i improve?
16:55:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> I missed that
16:55:57  <scrlk> !password
16:55:57  <PublicServer> scrlk: griefs
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16:56:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> scrlk not true they always say dont tf do mutch.
16:56:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, maybe when we told you and you just build your original one again, it might have something to do with it
16:56:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats why they say its crap
16:56:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: in this case the tf was only a side effect
16:56:42  <PublicServer> <scrlk> might help to suggest designs
16:56:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok lets get this straight
16:56:58  <PublicServer> <scrlk> and show me what is good
16:57:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> try and error is a design :)
16:57:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> at the current moment you are telling us that we do things wrong because we cant teach you how to build better
16:57:28  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i am trying to teach myself
16:59:15  <PublicServer> <scrlk> out of intrest why does the wiki talk about outdated, not applied concepts eg. stepped climbs
16:59:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> that doesnt answer that but meh
16:59:29  <^Spike^> but allowing us not to help you learning makes it harder on yourself
16:59:59  <PublicServer> <scrlk> does help mean rage being directed towards me?
16:59:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw the wiki is outdated, thats all
17:00:07  <PublicServer> <scrlk> so i shouldnt trust it?
17:00:34  <^Spike^> the level of rage depends on the level of ignorance
17:00:35  <^Spike^> simply said
17:00:43  <PublicServer> <scrlk> touche
17:00:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> rage after we tell you about 30 times what to do otherwise and what you did wrong and you do it again, is kind of appropriate from my point of view
17:00:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no you should read between the lines. Why do they write it should be done like that?
17:01:51  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00022C52:
17:02:10  <^Spike^> and... if we keep fixing all the mistakes other people make.. they will never learn to see the problem themselves
17:02:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> scrlk: we could go to welcome server. One corner is still free
17:03:03  <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh i'll need to d/l the beta
17:03:13  <PublicServer> <scrlk> is there any work thats needs to be on here?
17:03:23  <PublicServer> <scrlk> thinking 13 here
17:03:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> or the forrest on 04
17:04:11  <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh ok
17:04:19  <PublicServer> <scrlk> no forest
17:04:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> someone makes a slh for you already
17:04:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> which one?
17:04:37  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> above sawmill
17:04:43  <PublicServer> *** Sylf has joined spectators
17:04:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
17:05:15  <PublicServer> <scrlk> for the forest, im thinking (please don't rage) a simple x terminus?
17:05:25  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sure
17:05:31  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> make a start
17:05:38  <PublicServer> <scrlk> but im afraid its low capacity
17:05:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> forest is still low capicity
17:05:53  <Webster> Latest update from openttd: OpenTTD 1.1.0-beta3 <>
17:07:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 45 deg
17:07:52  <PublicServer> <scrlk> doh
17:09:02  <PublicServer> <scrlk> is that whats needed for the forest?
17:09:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> why not this
17:09:41  <PublicServer> <scrlk> was a hill there
17:10:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
17:10:10  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i didnt want to tf too much
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17:14:06  <PublicServer> <scrlk> was the forest correctly done?
17:14:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
17:14:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> anything else to do?
17:14:55  <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost)
17:15:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is ok, add trains
17:15:29  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 2 trains ok?
17:15:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> for now
17:16:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> On 03 Drontfield airport. Needs a goodsstation
17:16:51  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001FA31:
17:17:03  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
17:17:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i see
17:17:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sign !03goods
17:17:11  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yep
17:17:25  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 4 platform terminus?
17:17:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you can do whatever you like
17:17:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> any tf rules?
17:17:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> low
17:18:02  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ouch
17:18:32  <PublicServer> <scrlk> they are pissed off :/
17:19:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> destroy forrest
17:19:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and rebuild forrest
17:19:21  <PublicServer> <scrlk> nvm
17:19:25  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i have it done
17:20:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> is it ok?
17:20:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you miss some connection
17:20:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i know
17:20:51  <PublicServer> <scrlk> dont know the best way
17:21:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> why didnt you build it 1 tile beack?
17:21:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> back
17:21:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> for buffers
17:21:20  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ect
17:21:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> just do this
17:21:36  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined spectators
17:21:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> coming soon
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17:22:10  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well we are at appaling
17:23:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> destroy all trees first
17:24:25  <PublicServer> <scrlk> still appaling
17:24:39  <PublicServer> <scrlk> tempted to bribe
17:25:41  <PublicServer> <scrlk> wrong area
17:25:46  <PublicServer> <scrlk> thats part of the other town
17:25:48  <KenjiE20> dynamite -> trees -> repeat in bigger circles till rating is up
17:26:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmmm
17:26:14  <PublicServer> <scrlk> its jammed
17:26:37  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we could terraform an island. build trees and destroy island
17:26:49  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yeah
17:27:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
17:27:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> medicore
17:27:16  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
17:27:19  <PublicServer> <scrlk> its good
17:28:57  <PublicServer> <scrlk> done?
17:29:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
17:29:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> we might want to get rid of
17:29:13  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yeah
17:29:20  <PublicServer> <scrlk> its done
17:29:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> name it
17:29:32  <PublicServer> <scrlk> what about that?
17:29:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sign your name
17:29:51  <PublicServer> <scrlk> is the station oK?
17:29:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
17:30:28  <PublicServer> <scrlk> isnt the greatest station but the junction guide in the wiki says its ok for med traffic
17:30:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
17:30:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its ok
17:31:10  <PublicServer> <scrlk> coul
17:31:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> could be worse tbh
17:31:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> at island  15 there are 2 coal mines onattanded
17:31:43  <PublicServer> *** scrlk has left the game (connection lost)
17:31:51  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000151BC:
17:31:55  <scrlk> ok
17:32:06  <scrlk> !password
17:32:06  <PublicServer> scrlk: chafed
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17:32:43  <PublicServer> <scrlk> humm
17:33:11  <PublicServer> <scrlk> hard
17:33:36  <PublicServer> <scrlk> vinnie any ideas?
17:33:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
17:33:51  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
17:34:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> see signs North of forrest
17:34:07  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yes]
17:34:13  <PublicServer> <scrlk> station walk?
17:34:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no
17:34:25  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> let the one inside slh die
17:34:35  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
17:35:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> entry is one line
17:35:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we make ro-ro
17:35:35  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yep
17:35:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets make it easier
17:36:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
17:36:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> start from the join part and then make a station where it fits
17:36:27  <PublicServer> <scrlk> where?
17:36:37  <PublicServer> <scrlk> okok
17:37:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> move station 1 back for some signals
17:37:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> TL5
17:37:59  <PublicServer> <scrlk> wheres the entrace gonna go?
17:38:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sign connect
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17:39:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> backy
17:39:14  <PublicServer> <scrlk> hi
17:39:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wb
17:39:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> TL5 scrlk
17:40:04  <PublicServer> <scrlk> :)
17:40:44  <PublicServer> <scrlk> just add trains
17:41:02  <PublicServer> <scrlk> bye guys i have to go
17:41:14  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i put a dept down
17:41:17  <PublicServer> <scrlk> depot down
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17:44:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> who made the slow bridge at SLH 04-03?
17:44:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> to save from left hand traffic
17:46:51  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001BA22:
17:49:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> V that is real oldskool
17:49:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> oil fishing?
17:49:43  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
17:50:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> should be more ugly for true oldschool :p
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17:57:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> ez
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17:59:16  <scrlk> !password
17:59:16  <PublicServer> scrlk: pixies
17:59:22  <scrlk> hi all
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17:59:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> elo
18:00:06  <PublicServer> <scrlk> is drontfield goods built correctly?
18:01:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> not much else to do there
18:01:21  <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh ok
18:01:27  <PublicServer> <scrlk> anything wrong?
18:01:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> no, it should work
18:01:45  <PublicServer> <scrlk> good for medium traffic?
18:01:51  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00020228:
18:01:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> good for low traffic, which should be there
18:02:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> if it wont, it will be easy to improve
18:02:03  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
18:02:17  <KenjiE20> proper question: "Good for predicted traffic"
18:02:27  <PublicServer> <scrlk> thanks :)
18:02:31  <hylje> predictable traffic
18:04:33  <PublicServer> <scrlk> who built slarhill annexe?
18:04:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> me
18:04:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf are you doing
18:04:58  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 2 stations for 2 goods?
18:05:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh ffs
18:05:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> -.-
18:05:08  <PublicServer> <scrlk> sorry mate
18:05:12  <PublicServer> <scrlk> #
18:05:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> just wanted to point out :(
18:05:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, thx
18:05:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> but that TF was utterly needless
18:05:52  <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game
18:06:00  <PublicServer> <scrlk> should i conintue the naming system on 04?
18:06:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> why not
18:06:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> but it isnt important
18:06:59  <PublicServer> <scrlk> wow depot galore
18:07:46  <PublicServer> <scrlk> slarhill is pissed off again?
18:08:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> can you tell me why are you deleting my depots?
18:08:34  <PublicServer> <scrlk> thought they were unused
18:08:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> so what
18:08:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> they can be used later
18:09:19  <PublicServer> <scrlk> thought you said station builders built depots near their station
18:09:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
18:09:45  <KenjiE20> oh ffs
18:09:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is nothing about their deleting
18:09:50  <KenjiE20> CONNECT!
18:09:58  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
18:10:07  <PublicServer> <scrlk> this server has problems
18:10:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> far from real problems
18:10:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> Kenji does tho :p
18:10:41  <PublicServer> <scrlk> just connection issues once in a while
18:10:43  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
18:10:44  <KenjiE20> buggy rev is buggy
18:10:56  <PublicServer> *** Sylf has joined company #1
18:11:00  <KenjiE20> constantly having inturrepted d/l of the save
18:11:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> :o
18:11:09  <PublicServer> <scrlk> the stables dont have connection issues?
18:11:23  <hylje> they aren't supposed to
18:11:34  <KenjiE20> s'why they're stab;es
18:11:37  <KenjiE20> stables*
18:11:39  <hylje> nightlies neither, but they can have whatever trouble without warning
18:11:56  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 04 has done well for today
18:12:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> in the morning it was empty
18:12:08  <PublicServer> <scrlk> now its great
18:12:09  <KenjiE20> lol
18:12:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> no seriously
18:12:19  <KenjiE20> didn't even get chance to type the pwd before it went
18:12:24  <PublicServer> <scrlk> it was just the plan
18:12:35  <PublicServer> <scrlk> not again...
18:13:12  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ffs
18:13:49  <PublicServer> *** Kenji joined the game
18:13:50  <PublicServer> <Kenji> finally
18:13:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeeey
18:13:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :p
18:13:54  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
18:13:55  <PublicServer> <scrlk> hi
18:13:56  <PublicServer> <scrlk> took some time?
18:13:58  <PublicServer> *** Kenji has joined company #1
18:14:08  <PublicServer> <Kenji> no kidding
18:14:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
18:14:20  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that was about attempt 50000000000000000
18:14:24  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
18:14:26  <PublicServer> <scrlk> no shit
18:15:19  <PublicServer> <scrlk> does the station naming system on 04 help?
18:16:52  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001E45D:
18:17:01  <PublicServer> <Kenji> hehe I love the WAM12 honk
18:17:09  <PublicServer> <Kenji> reminds me of 131
18:17:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> honk?
18:17:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ?
18:17:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> 131 was eh40 masai
18:17:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw :p
18:17:36  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I thought we had WAM's in there too
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18:17:43  <PublicServer> <Kenji> oh right, we changed mid way didn't we
18:17:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk
18:18:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> didnt play that game
18:18:13  <PublicServer> <scrlk> god 04 is the best island
18:18:28  <PublicServer> <scrlk> reminds me of then ottc started
18:18:35  <PublicServer> <scrlk> all simple and that
18:18:57  <PublicServer> <Sylf> you call this simple?
18:19:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure, piece of cake
18:19:07  <PublicServer> <Kenji> coop was never simple
18:19:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well its just a giant ml between goods drop and sawmill
18:19:25  <PublicServer> <scrlk> with several slhs
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18:19:39  <PublicServer> <Kenji> anyway clearly 05 is the best
18:19:41  <PublicServer> <Kenji> :P
18:19:51  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
18:19:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> SRNW strike force, to arms! Anyone to join me? :)
18:19:59  <PublicServer> <scrlk> look at all that vergin landscape
18:20:03  <PublicServer> <scrlk> whats a srn?
18:20:08  <PublicServer> <scrlk> how does it work
18:20:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> @@srnw
18:20:10  <Webster> srnw: Self-regulating Network, see also:
18:20:18  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ^ like that
18:20:20  <PublicServer> <Sylf> <3 srnw
18:20:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Im in V
18:20:31  <PublicServer> <Kenji> sure I got half an hour to kill
18:20:40  <scrlk> ok im not going to fuck with a srn
18:20:43  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> stations only for me :P
18:20:45  <PublicServer> <Kenji> can manage something in that I think
18:20:46  <scrlk> dont want to get rage
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18:20:58  <PublicServer> <scrlk> how easy are the stations?
18:21:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> not at all
18:21:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> clockwise or counterclockwise around island?
18:21:08  <PublicServer> <Sylf> stations are the key
18:21:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: ?
18:21:13  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ^
18:21:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> no ring
18:21:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ok
18:21:21  <PublicServer> <scrlk> whats the easiest for a noob like me
18:21:24  <PublicServer> <scrlk> for srn
18:21:26  <PublicServer> <Kenji> don't forget that peninsula
18:21:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> follow me scrlk
18:21:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
18:21:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets do a ML
18:21:32  <PublicServer> <Sylf> scrlk: watch and learn
18:21:34  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
18:21:38  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Where are you?
18:21:38  <PublicServer> <scrlk> time to sit back
18:21:40  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 05
18:21:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> and from the ML we could have like 3 sidelines
18:21:52  <PublicServer> <scrlk> wth is the boost
18:21:54  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I like 3 SL idea
18:21:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> each working a bit differently
18:21:56  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Kewlness.
18:21:56  <PublicServer> <Sylf> 3 styles
18:22:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> land signs are rough guide
18:22:12  <uliko> @gap 3
18:22:12  <Webster> uliko: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4.
18:22:12  <PublicServer> <Sylf> Mazur style on one of them, maybe
18:22:20  <PublicServer> <Kenji> should grab the whole area like that
18:22:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> Kenji: I would do one coast as the ML
18:22:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> inner one probably
18:22:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sylf: I insist on it.
18:22:38  <PublicServer> <Sylf> hehe
18:22:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> and then split from it
18:23:03  <PublicServer> <Sylf> regular, mazur, feeder...  what other style am I missing?
18:23:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> what is going to happen to the steel?
18:23:05  <PublicServer> <Kenji> outer might be more practical
18:23:12  <PublicServer> <Kenji> less sheer slopes
18:23:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> true
18:23:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
18:23:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets do outer
18:23:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> scrlk: steel goes to boost
18:23:35  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
18:23:41  <PublicServer> <scrlk> go go gadget go!
18:23:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> :P
18:24:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> see the 3 signs?
18:24:14  <PublicServer> <Sylf> aye
18:24:20  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yep
18:24:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think that fits best
18:24:33  <PublicServer> <Sylf> okidoki
18:24:36  <PublicServer> <scrlk> so from the iron ore, to the steel to the boost?
18:24:38  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that power plant is gonna be a pain
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18:24:49  <PublicServer> <Kenji> right in the good building spot
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18:24:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> will be ok
18:25:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm
18:25:01  <PublicServer> <scrlk> theres a flat chunk of land
18:25:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> 3 lines?
18:25:10  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yea
18:25:12  <PublicServer> <Sylf> 3 line ML?
18:25:36  <PublicServer> <Kenji> iron tends to move pretty quick
18:25:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> how simple station? :p
18:25:53  <PublicServer> <scrlk> the mine will close
18:25:53  <PublicServer> <scrlk> soon
18:26:03  <PublicServer> <Sylf> screw existing mines
18:26:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> scrlk: I said something about industries
18:26:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well depends how long you take
18:26:12  <PublicServer> <Kenji> what Sylf said
18:26:16  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok i wont give a shit about mines
18:26:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> or anything
18:26:36  <PublicServer> <scrlk> right i 'm going afk
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18:28:11  <PublicServer> <Spike> is it just me or is the rv island.. ehm.. not ehm... as planned..
18:28:20  <PublicServer> <Sylf> not you
18:28:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> well the plan there is also questionnable
18:28:26  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it's as planned, the central is marked
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18:30:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i know srnw, but whee can i find what concept feed mazur and regular mean
18:30:29  <PublicServer> <Sylf> mazur style: see his blog post from recent days
18:30:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> standard is the normal stations with dummies
18:30:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Wiki/Blog
18:30:37  <PublicServer> <Kenji> is it not reference on the wiki page / research page?
18:30:39  <PublicServer> <Sylf> regular style: what's on the wiki
18:30:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> I know blog
18:30:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> and feeder is the station that mark built in psg 199
18:30:46  <PublicServer> <Sylf> feeder: find a blog post by Mark
18:31:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke i know 2 out of 3. Good for me
18:31:16  <PublicServer> <Kenji> tis link on the srwn wiki page, just looked
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18:33:43  <PublicServer> <Kenji> hah, I love it when I manage to eyeball neat lines :p
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18:34:46  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I still love having written something people now acutally reference.  :-)
18:35:00  <PublicServer> <Kenji> coastal exit drafted :p
18:35:02  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And not as an example of stupidity.
18:35:06  <PublicServer> <Kenji> hehe
18:35:12  <PublicServer> <Kenji> on which note
18:35:24  <PublicServer> <Kenji> we need MOAR QUOTEZ
18:35:32  <PublicServer> <Kenji> :p
18:35:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm
18:35:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> well we could lead the ML on each side
18:35:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> one empty one full
18:36:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> should be handy
18:36:16  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yeah, 6 lines on one coast might be nuts
18:36:28  <PublicServer> <Kenji> and it suits SRNW nicely to sandwich
18:36:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
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18:37:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> the canals are what I would imagine as borders
18:37:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> any other opinion ? :) I think this fits the land
18:37:48  <PublicServer> <Kenji> looks about right to me
18:37:54  <PublicServer> <Sylf> me too
18:37:57  <PublicServer> <Kenji> althought
18:38:08  <PublicServer> <Kenji> maybe the feeder / reg split could aim for the lake?
18:38:23  <PublicServer> <Kenji> or PP
18:38:30  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 6 and 2 threes prolly
18:38:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> like dat
18:38:40  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yeah
18:38:52  <PublicServer> <Kenji> looks roughly equal like that
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18:39:07  <PublicServer> <Kenji> and still fits landscape
18:39:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> arr
18:40:27  <PublicServer> <Kenji> heh this works quite nice actually
18:40:33  <PublicServer> <Kenji> the empty gets the short route
18:40:49  <PublicServer> <Kenji> and the full merge the long, thus extra space for prio, etc.
18:40:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> not like that matters :p
18:40:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
18:40:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> yea
18:42:25  <KenjiE20> @alias add MSRNW "webpage"
18:42:25  <Webster> KenjiE20: The operation succeeded.
18:42:54  <PublicServer> <Kenji> you can swap  the giant sign for a trigger now :)
18:43:07  <PublicServer> <Kenji> @@msrnw
18:43:08  <Webster> A different SRNW SL concept. at #openttdcoop -
18:43:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> could you add tags for ABR 02 - 08 please ? :)
18:43:34  <PublicServer> <Kenji> also, new abbriviation is born?
18:43:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> I link to them quite often
18:43:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yeah,. without cut&paste ability, its not much use anyway here.
18:44:04  <Ammler> just make V admin and let him do it self :-P
18:44:06  <PublicServer> <Kenji> Mazur: we reauire you're on IRC anyway
18:44:18  <KenjiE20> alias add should be open for v  iirc
18:44:41  <KenjiE20> as well as ottdcoop add for shorthand
18:44:53  <V453000> @alias add ABR08 ""
18:45:03  <V453000> Webster: you lazy bitch
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18:45:09  <KenjiE20> lol
18:45:12  <KenjiE20> guess not
18:45:18  * hylje kicks Webster 
18:45:30  <KenjiE20> bleh, I'll get on it later
18:45:32  <Ammler> V453000: use "webpage <url>"
18:45:38  <KenjiE20> remind me when I come back
18:45:50  <V453000> oh
18:45:53  <KenjiE20> tis almost food time here
18:45:58  <V453000> @alias add ABR08 "webpage"
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18:46:09  <Ammler> @alias add ABR08 "webpage"
18:46:09  <Webster> Ammler: The operation succeeded.
18:46:10  <V453000> Webster: you lazy bitch
18:46:13  <KenjiE20> also yes, webpage is an alias to get the title and echo
18:46:15  <V453000> thx Ammler :p
18:46:46  <Ammler> @abr08
18:46:47  <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 08: Overflows II at #openttdcoop -
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18:47:09  <Sylf> @abr06
18:47:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
18:47:23  <Sylf> darn
18:47:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Is that cross question adressed to me or my name as a refernce to the part of the island?
18:48:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think that crossing is bad
18:48:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> because there should be split to the feeder
18:48:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> I would just go around
18:48:26  <PublicServer> <Mazur> So would I.
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18:57:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: guess you should the peninsula :)
18:57:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Btw, the ML does not acutally have to go into the MSRNW part of eht island, that could likely simply be one SL.
18:58:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, there it becomes SL just after it splits into regular/msrnw
18:58:17  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Just a SLH at the border.
18:58:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> why hub
18:58:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I mean connection.
18:58:46  <PublicServer> <Sylf> 1 line per section?  or hub for each?
18:59:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Either way.
18:59:28  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Two small SLs or one big one.
18:59:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> one big rather
19:00:16  <scrlk> hi all
19:00:20  <scrlk> hows the srn going?
19:00:23  <scrlk> !password
19:00:23  <PublicServer> scrlk: bellow
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19:01:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Movie starting.  Back later.
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19:01:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Have fnu!
19:01:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh you cunt
19:01:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> green mile?
19:01:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> we wont build your stuff for you :p
19:01:29  <PublicServer> <scrlk> u mad v?
19:01:52  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002D2B4:
19:02:10  <Mazur> 's Fine, V, I'll build it later when I come back.
19:02:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> :p
19:02:21  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
19:02:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> I was just bitching
19:02:37  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i will build it so he will have to redo it when he comes back :)
19:02:40  <Mazur> And I was being stoic.
19:02:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> xD
19:02:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
19:02:50  <Mazur> :-D
19:02:51  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ever better
19:03:07  <PublicServer> <scrlk> whats with the canals?
19:03:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> border
19:04:03  <Mazur> I diagree, Vinnie, I suspect you're going to improve my concept.
19:04:07  <Mazur> +s
19:04:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i will try
19:04:33  <Mazur> FInd stoopid flaws and crush them.
19:04:38  <Mazur> ;-)
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19:05:59  <scrlk> !password
19:05:59  <PublicServer> scrlk: cotted
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19:10:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> k steel mill station ready
19:11:09  <PublicServer> <Sylf> ML splitters ready
19:11:16  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ooh
19:11:20  <PublicServer> <scrlk> srn looks beastly
19:11:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> k, I might have a go on the feeder
19:12:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we may start :)
19:12:39  <PublicServer> <scrlk> time to roll?
19:12:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> DB set wagons for iron ore?
19:12:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> these are kinda nice
19:12:55  <PublicServer> <scrlk> umm we need a steel mill?
19:12:57  <PublicServer> <Sylf> OK
19:13:05  <PublicServer> <Sylf> not until we have running trains
19:13:13  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 5 tile climb?
19:13:15  <PublicServer> <scrlk> wow
19:13:23  <PublicServer> <Sylf> BR182 is pretty powerful
19:13:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
19:13:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> is good for TL3
19:13:33  <PublicServer> <Sylf> so is EL13K
19:13:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> and EL13k is insane :p
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19:14:10  <PublicServer> <Sylf> 5 tile climb for EL13K TL6 empty trains = no sweat
19:14:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> even with full I think it wouldnt
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19:14:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm
19:14:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> the feeder will need overflo
19:14:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> w
19:15:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> in 199, it basically had it from the ML splitters
19:15:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> here it wont
19:15:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> fun times
19:15:40  <PublicServer> *** scrlk has left the game (connection lost)
19:15:47  <scrlk> ffs
19:16:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> pay your internet bill
19:16:53  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000316D6:
19:23:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> who is helping me with mazur
19:23:43  <PublicServer> <Sylf> me
19:24:02  <scrlk> is ammler still around these days?
19:25:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i already forsee problems with srnw mazur. when a train is full it will have to complete the lap :(
19:25:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> I also think the concept isnt all that good, but try it :p
19:26:13  <PublicServer> <Sylf> should we built bypass for each stations for full trains?
19:26:20  <Ammler> scrlk: who were you in previous days as I can't remember you
19:26:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wouldnt
19:26:37  <PublicServer> <Sylf> OK
19:26:40  <scrlk> i popped in a couple of years ago for about a day or two
19:26:52  <Ammler> with this nick?
19:26:59  <scrlk> dont remember
19:27:00  <V453000> @alias add ABR07 "webpage"
19:27:04  <Mazur> Vinnie: You can make more exits and have an exit line aound the SL.
19:27:06  <scrlk> but i do remember mark being here
19:27:19  <scrlk> hes gone now :(
19:27:22  <V453000> KenjiE20: something wrong with syntax or something else bork?
19:27:27  <Ammler> yes, he saw you comming
19:27:32  <KenjiE20> try @@whoami
19:27:32  <Webster> KenjiE20: KenjiE20
19:27:37  <V453000> @@whoami
19:27:45  <V453000> @whoami
19:27:45  <Webster> V453000: I don't recognize you.
19:27:48  <V453000> bastard
19:27:57  <scrlk> for some reason scrlk is reserved in this channel :S
19:28:01  <V453000> @whoami
19:28:01  <Webster> V453000: V453000
19:28:02  <Ammler> register the host, V453000
19:28:04  <KenjiE20> /msg webster identify v453000 <pwd>
19:28:09  <KenjiE20> there
19:28:10  <V453000> @alias add ABR07 "webpage"
19:28:10  <Webster> V453000: The operation succeeded.
19:28:12  <scrlk> i might have gone under a differnet name back in the days
19:28:13  <V453000> arr, thx
19:28:21  <KenjiE20> now do hostmask add
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19:28:30  <KenjiE20> that should add your current one to auto id
19:28:51  <Mazur> Vinnie, Sylf, read that?
19:28:53  <V453000> @alias add ABR06 "webpage"
19:28:53  <Webster> V453000: The operation succeeded.
19:28:57  <V453000> yeeyeeeyyy
19:29:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Mazur needs more waypoints. One thats says how to come back after drop at steelmill
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19:29:54  <V453000> @alias add ABR05 "webpage"
19:29:54  <Webster> V453000: The operation succeeded.
19:30:10  <Mazur> Vinnie: Not normally, just draw empties from hte empies ring.
19:30:25  <KenjiE20> V453000: we have .bots to not get in the way too :p
19:30:30  <V453000> mahh
19:30:31  <V453000> :o
19:30:32  <V453000> :p
19:30:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> there are 3 rings now with 3 different orders
19:30:52  <scrlk> ammler, are you every in game nowadays? you were much more active last time i was here
19:31:48  <Ammler> I am too good for playing here
19:31:53  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00037CB4:
19:32:02  <scrlk> hahaha
19:32:20  <scrlk> guessing you venture in other places now?
19:32:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> train 760 is mad wont stop at stations
19:33:18  <PublicServer> <Ryton> 252 automatic orders for a train, is that normal?
19:33:22  <Ammler> yes, coop sucks
19:33:29  <PublicServer> <Ryton> (train 758)
19:33:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes ryton
19:34:12  <V453000> Ammler plays DEATHMATCH
19:34:16  <V453000> for real men
19:34:19  <scrlk> lol
19:34:26  <scrlk> openttd deathmatch?
19:35:06  <Ammler> yep, if you lose, you die
19:35:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> as you can see, Ammler never lost
19:35:32  <hylje> when you die in the game you die for real
19:35:39  <scrlk> lol
19:36:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no real srnw with that many orders for Mazur
19:36:14  <Ammler> if you played around 100 coop games, you might have a bit chance against me
19:36:22  <scrlk> lol
19:36:32  <Ammler> serious
19:37:21  <scrlk> openttd deathmatch obv doesnt exist
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19:38:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> WWOTTDDD World wide open TTD Deathmatch Day
19:38:09  <Mazur> Look, guys, if you lo9t can;t hack it, I'll show you all l;ater, just ket me watch my movie first.
19:38:17  <scrlk> lol
19:38:36  <Ammler> scrlk: coopetition exists
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19:39:18  <scrlk> yep i know
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19:44:47  <Vinnie> !paasword
19:44:50  <Vinnie> !password
19:44:51  <PublicServer> Vinnie: cooing
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19:46:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> do i need to fund more iron mines
19:46:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you have the stuff ready
19:46:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> allowed
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19:48:19  <PublicServer> <Razmir> hi
19:48:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> hy
19:48:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
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19:49:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> afk for a while.
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19:53:16  <mfb-> self-regulation finally?
19:53:20  <mfb-> nice
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20:02:02  <scrlk> srn is finshed?!
20:02:03  <scrlk> yey
20:02:07  <scrlk> !password
20:02:07  <PublicServer> scrlk: ampere
20:02:29  <PublicServer> *** scrlk joined the game
20:04:13  <PublicServer> <scrlk> after work on srn who wants to go to ttt?
20:04:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> I doubt srnw will be done anytime soon :)
20:04:45  <PublicServer> <scrlk> :(
20:04:53  <PublicServer> <scrlk> srns take a long time?
20:05:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> but both constructions can be made simultaneously
20:05:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> problems?
20:05:32  <PublicServer> <scrlk> just want a member to see if i am doing it right
20:05:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> members are busy I guess
20:06:00  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yeah
20:06:43  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> why build refinairy on TTT
20:06:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no oil yet
20:06:51  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i am starting work
20:06:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
20:07:01  <PublicServer> <scrlk> you can help vinnie
20:07:04  <PublicServer> <scrlk> if you want
20:07:10  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ffs forest
20:07:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 15 more min homework. and then i help
20:07:32  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yey
20:07:38  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i just finished some french
20:07:41  <PublicServer> <scrlk> french is such a bitch
20:09:48  <PublicServer> <mfb> pickup steel?
20:10:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure why not
20:10:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> I would use stake wagons for as long as we can
20:10:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> those are nicest
20:11:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> = ?
20:11:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> see this :)
20:11:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> looks much nicer when loaded
20:11:36  <PublicServer> <mfb> k
20:11:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> and haves random load graphics
20:11:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> *has
20:12:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> see? :)
20:12:31  <PublicServer> <mfb> :)
20:12:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> DB set
20:13:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> easy on the big demo's
20:13:44  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
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20:16:53  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002ECDB:
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20:17:59  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well a slh needs to be built
20:18:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you can try that
20:18:11  <PublicServer> *** Razmir has joined spectators
20:18:23  <PublicServer> <scrlk> wow thats way out of my skill range mate
20:18:33  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i will give it a shot
20:18:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> where?
20:18:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> First time i play a PSG. See how i'm doing
20:18:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> to the junctionary!
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20:19:03  <PublicServer> <mfb> second time here
20:19:15  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you mfb?
20:19:23  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i have no idea how to build a slh
20:19:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> psg 199 was the first
20:19:29  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i think i just need a fork
20:20:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf
20:20:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> a train just passed Feeder
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20:21:09  <PublicServer> <scrlk> a train that if tl2 should have min curve of cl2?
20:21:11  <PublicServer> <mfb> again
20:21:15  <PublicServer> <Sylf> hmm, I have some lost trains
20:21:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> yes
20:21:27  <PublicServer> <Sylf> those are passing through feeders
20:21:58  <PublicServer> <mfb> that's not in sync
20:22:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> Sylf: super WTF station
20:22:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> 1. it lets empty trains just go in, 2. why so slow dummy :o
20:23:09  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I'm trying to study it...
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20:25:25  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok i think ive nearly finished
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20:26:21  <PublicServer> <scrlk> this is coal only
20:26:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> ugh?
20:26:31  <PublicServer> <mfb> there may spawn other industries
20:26:37  <PublicServer> <scrlk> fair point
20:26:43  <PublicServer> <scrlk> this is my first time guys
20:26:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> I said ignore industries
20:26:52  <PublicServer> <scrlk> pleasnt dont rage at me :(
20:26:58  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i am
20:27:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
20:27:15  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oops ±)
20:27:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :(
20:29:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> was so different?
20:29:31  <PublicServer> <mfb> it's the same line
20:29:37  <PublicServer> <scrlk> damn
20:29:55  <PublicServer> <scrlk> fixed
20:30:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> + you will have to move something one tile to put signals after the bridges
20:30:31  <PublicServer> <mfb> sync is easy
20:31:13  <PublicServer> <mfb> like this
20:31:21  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
20:31:21  <PublicServer> <mfb> so both ways have the same length
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20:31:41  <PublicServer> <mfb> k, that is one of 4 parts
20:31:54  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00028C5D:
20:33:19  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ffs
20:33:25  <PublicServer> <scrlk> sawmill!
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20:34:02  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ive docked up
20:34:04  <PublicServer> <mfb> you can keep it and go around the sawmill
20:34:06  <PublicServer> <scrlk> cocked
20:35:03  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ffs
20:35:24  <PublicServer> <scrlk> no place for snyc bridges
20:35:54  <PublicServer> <mfb> #
20:35:58  <PublicServer> <scrlk> too far away
20:36:00  <PublicServer> <mfb> that is getting really large
20:36:14  <PublicServer> <scrlk> shall i start again?
20:36:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> easiest scrlk
20:36:26  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ?
20:36:32  <PublicServer> <scrlk> start again?
20:36:34  <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe start with the split in the east
20:36:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
20:37:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> (the bbh is smaller than that)
20:37:06  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
20:37:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> start with A and B to AB
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20:38:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> this is the worst slh ever
20:39:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> SRNW Regular has nonstop orders :(
20:41:06  <PublicServer> <mfb> a bridge for the sl would be easier
20:41:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> + you don't have that sync problem again
20:41:23  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yeah
20:41:57  <PublicServer> <scrlk> too long bridge
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20:46:15  <PublicServer> <mfb> (signal there)
20:46:23  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yep
20:46:30  <PublicServer> <scrlk> mind signalling?
20:46:40  <PublicServer> <scrlk> after i finsihed
20:46:46  <PublicServer> <mfb> k
20:46:48  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well one arm is done
20:46:54  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00030AC5:
20:47:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> large thing, but everything is connected
20:47:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no South ml
20:47:39  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i should make it smaller
20:47:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> (at one half)
20:47:51  <PublicServer> <scrlk> wth
20:47:57  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ive done it wrong!
20:48:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
20:48:11  <PublicServer> <scrlk> maybe not
20:49:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> that's the way here
20:49:29  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
20:49:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> E
20:50:09  <PublicServer> <scrlk> wow one large and ugly thing
20:50:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> when try to make it more compact first
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20:50:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> before you send trains
20:50:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ok, lets see what you pussies made of my brilliant concept.
20:50:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> :-D
20:50:51  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
20:50:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ahh 21:50 Substitue 2
20:51:22  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yeah, I was in hte mood for a dumbass movie.
20:51:37  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ive gouing to make ti smaller
20:51:39  <PublicServer> <scrlk> it
20:51:48  <PublicServer> <scrlk> planning to raze...
20:52:24  <PublicServer> <mfb> uh... not that way
20:52:30  <PublicServer> <scrlk> can i raze it
20:52:40  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i found a better junction to build in the wiki
20:52:40  <PublicServer> <mfb> it's your SLH
20:52:52  <PublicServer> <Sylf> no
20:52:54  <PublicServer> <scrlk> take 2
20:52:59  <PublicServer> <Sylf> never raze like that
20:53:02  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
20:53:25  <PublicServer> <Sylf> that's a bannable razing style
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20:53:41  <PublicServer> <scrlk> so destructive?
20:53:50  <PublicServer> <Sylf> yes
20:53:58  <PublicServer> <Mazur> So we're not really doing a SRNW on that island.
20:54:11  <PublicServer> <Sylf> It's self regulating order
20:55:24  <PublicServer> <scrlk> god this inst easy
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20:55:55  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
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20:56:10  <PublicServer> <mfb> works like that
20:56:16  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
20:56:24  <PublicServer> <scrlk> someone needs to add a prio
20:56:54  <PublicServer> <scrlk> stilly sawmill
20:56:56  <PublicServer> <scrlk> silly
20:57:14  <PublicServer> <Sylf> just bridge the ML
20:57:24  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Where's you guys at?
20:57:27  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 13
20:57:29  <PublicServer> <Sylf> TTT
20:57:31  <PublicServer> <mfb> TTT
20:57:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> my first slh
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20:58:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> right im confused now
20:58:21  <mfb-> @gap 2
20:58:21  <Webster> mfb-: For Trainlength of 2: <= 8 needs 2, 9 - 12 needs 3, 13 - 16 needs 4.
20:58:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> PBS prio over bridge, it's on hte wiki.
20:58:29  <PublicServer> <scrlk> slh is confusing
20:58:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> :(
20:58:36  <PublicServer> <scrlk> wiki is slow
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20:58:56  <PublicServer> <scrlk> wtf
20:58:58  <PublicServer> <scrlk> bribe?
20:58:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> ass
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20:59:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ooer, he used a naughtie word, he said "donkey"!
20:59:49  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
20:59:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> fucking donkey tho
20:59:58  <PublicServer> <scrlk> getting worse
20:59:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> to what do you have connecte a and B
21:00:04  <KenjiE20> damn those donkeys
21:00:06  <PublicServer> <mfb> wait
21:00:10  <PublicServer> <mfb> that's all outgoing
21:00:45  <PublicServer> <scrlk> this is the worst slh in ottc hisotry!
21:00:48  <PublicServer> <scrlk> history
21:01:02  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You didn't see my first.
21:01:16  <PublicServer> <scrlk> christ im so embarrased at the moment
21:01:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
21:01:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think the reverser hub was the worst ever
21:01:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> from what I seen anyway
21:01:40  <PublicServer> <mfb> reverser hub?
21:01:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> ya
21:01:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> totally not working :D
21:01:54  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00029E64:
21:01:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will not mention the author :)
21:01:59  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh,yes, I saw that one, too.
21:02:05  <PublicServer> <Sylf> there was one in PSG 193... and got razed pretty quickly
21:02:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> exactly
21:02:20  <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game
21:02:23  <PublicServer> <scrlk> what do i do next
21:02:25  <mfb-> :(
21:02:29  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, Intexon.
21:02:36  <PublicServer> <mfb> find a way to connect C+D maybe
21:02:39  <PublicServer> <Sylf> scrlk, that G-H join isn't balanced
21:02:41  <PublicServer> <Intexon> hi
21:02:51  <PublicServer> <scrlk> its wip
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21:03:11  <PublicServer> <mfb> well, just build the lines shorter
21:03:20  <PublicServer> <mfb> like this
21:03:24  <PublicServer> <mfb> +slh gets smaller, too
21:03:36  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm one tile too short
21:03:36  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yeah
21:03:38  <PublicServer> <mfb> better
21:03:46  <PublicServer> <Sylf> :p
21:03:46  <PublicServer> <scrlk> what other connections?
21:03:48  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I saw that
21:03:54  <PublicServer> <mfb> entry
21:04:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> leave some space for prio maybe
21:04:32  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yep
21:04:38  <PublicServer> <mfb> and that is the wrong direction
21:04:40  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I.e. from C, D, E and F to the station.
21:04:46  <PublicServer> <scrlk> which way?
21:04:55  <PublicServer> <mfb> see sign
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21:06:30  <PublicServer> <scrlk> d is impossible
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21:06:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> it's possible
21:07:05  <PublicServer> <mfb> for example, like this
21:07:11  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i see
21:07:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> remember the bridges from last try scrlk
21:07:55  <PublicServer> <scrlk> not really
21:08:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 3
21:08:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 2
21:08:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 1
21:08:15  <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh sncy
21:08:27  <PublicServer> <scrlk> snyc
21:08:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
21:08:53  <PublicServer> <scrlk> thanks
21:09:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> how ugly is that?
21:09:13  <PublicServer> <scrlk> feel free to add your names guys
21:09:17  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i cant take all the credit
21:09:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> less than the last one
21:09:34  <PublicServer> <scrlk> is it better?
21:09:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its better
21:09:52  <PublicServer> <scrlk> way out of my comfort zone
21:10:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> They might leave you all the blamer, though.
21:10:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets try an other one scrlk
21:10:11  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
21:10:17  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> name it
21:10:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> add your names guys
21:10:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nooo
21:10:43  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> take full responsebility
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21:10:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
21:10:52  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i cant mate
21:10:58  <PublicServer> <scrlk> its not fair on people that helped
21:10:58  <KenjiE20> names are important
21:11:05  <KenjiE20> we don't know who to ban otherwise
21:11:07  <KenjiE20> :p
21:11:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> it isnt that bad as you might think :p
21:11:10  <PublicServer> <Sylf> XD
21:11:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> who added my name?
21:11:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> the hub will work
21:11:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> v you are just saying that!
21:11:26  <PublicServer> <mfb> hey
21:11:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> hell no
21:11:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
21:11:33  <KenjiE20> technically he's typing that
21:12:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> omfg that was hard
21:12:17  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It gets easier.
21:12:21  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
21:12:31  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> found a spot
21:12:35  <PublicServer> <scrlk> no loadbalancers?
21:12:39  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
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21:12:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sign Here03
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21:13:07  <PublicServer> <scrlk> #
21:13:15  <PublicServer> <scrlk> so what do i do?
21:13:28  <PublicServer> <scrlk> what do i connect?
21:13:40  <PublicServer> <mfb> just one line there
21:13:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> easy
21:13:55  <PublicServer> <scrlk> tl + cl?
21:13:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 3 and 3
21:14:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> with prio's
21:14:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> low tf
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21:14:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and as small as possible
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21:14:26  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ouch
21:14:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> double bridge
21:14:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> or tunnel
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21:15:50  <PublicServer> <scrlk> low tf *sigh*
21:15:55  <slaca> !password
21:15:56  <PublicServer> slaca: talker
21:16:13  <PublicServer> *** slaca joined the game
21:16:14  <PublicServer> <slaca> hi
21:16:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
21:16:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
21:16:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> hI, slaca.
21:16:48  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok did i do it right
21:16:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> easy prio. I want one that is 4 tiles long
21:16:54  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000300DA:
21:17:17  <PublicServer> <scrlk> on it
21:18:37  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yey?
21:18:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> also works. but i prefer no pbs in prio
21:19:00  <PublicServer> <scrlk> using the wiki for this
21:19:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> pro way :p
21:19:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> what pbs?
21:19:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> PBS is ass
21:19:28  <PublicServer> <scrlk> its gay then?
21:19:37  <PublicServer> <Spike> pbs is a bad invention in alot of situations
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21:19:42  <KenjiE20> you don't need pbs in a prio....
21:19:51  <PublicServer> <Spike> in some... rare... cases it's usefull
21:20:01  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well im using the wiki piro guide
21:20:03  <PublicServer> <scrlk> tight space
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21:20:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> your sapce isnt tigh
21:20:22  <PublicServer> <Spike> sign?
21:20:22  <PublicServer> <Spike> show me
21:20:23  <KenjiE20> the only time it's needed is prio over bridge
21:20:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
21:20:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> not even there
21:20:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> prio over bridge with few space
21:20:51  <KenjiE20> true, depends on bridge size
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21:21:00  <PublicServer> <Spike> what part should be tight...
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21:21:11  <Atoompje> !password
21:21:11  <PublicServer> Atoompje: chintz
21:21:24  <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1
21:21:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> he is learning spike
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21:21:53  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> hi
21:21:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> ello
21:21:59  <PublicServer> <scrlk> is it ok?
21:22:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hi
21:22:02  <PublicServer> <Spike> and i'm helping him on that part
21:22:03  <PublicServer> <Spike> like that yes
21:22:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> almost
21:22:09  <PublicServer> <Spike> as you see it's not tight
21:22:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> signals on ml
21:22:19  <PublicServer> <Spike> that's a side note Vinnie :)
21:22:24  <PublicServer> <Spike> in general the prio is ok :)
21:22:40  <PublicServer> <scrlk> what about the other one?
21:22:47  <PublicServer> <Spike> other one....
21:22:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Just a little signal gap netween hte two halves.
21:22:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its to big
21:22:49  <PublicServer> <Spike> sign?
21:23:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> to big of a slh and no double bridges
21:23:11  <PublicServer> <scrlk> what is?
21:23:15  <PublicServer> <scrlk> mine
21:23:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
21:23:27  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well im just starting out
21:23:42  <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh ok
21:23:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> see arrow
21:23:53  <PublicServer> <scrlk> checked
21:23:57  <PublicServer> <Spike> what's wrong there Vinnie
21:23:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and?
21:23:59  <PublicServer> <scrlk> what about the other piro?
21:24:17  <PublicServer> <Spike> the other prio is a bit short compared to the one just made
21:25:05  <PublicServer> <Spike> hint
21:25:13  <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh ok
21:25:26  <PublicServer> <Spike> you create space for your prio there..
21:25:44  <PublicServer> <Spike> it was a hint to where to place more of your prio if needed :)
21:25:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> that's a large prio
21:25:50  <PublicServer> <Spike> idd
21:25:56  <PublicServer> <Spike> it was just a hint if you needed space :)
21:26:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> L
21:26:06  <PublicServer> <Spike> would still do that
21:26:08  <PublicServer> <scrlk> thats what i was building earlier
21:26:22  <PublicServer> <Spike> a rule of thumb that usually works for prio length: tl*2+2
21:26:28  <PublicServer> <Spike> it's not 100% accurate
21:26:30  <PublicServer> <Spike> but it's a rough guideline
21:26:36  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
21:27:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'd change the cross in the middle of hte oppposite prio to a slanted track, then it cannot interfere with plans where you're busy now.
21:27:24  <PublicServer> <Spike> that was my hint
21:27:28  <PublicServer> <Mazur> BUt that way works.
21:27:32  <PublicServer> <scrlk> right im confused
21:27:42  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Shutting up right now.
21:27:43  <PublicServer> <Spike> you switch the prio over to the other side of the track
21:27:50  <PublicServer> <scrlk> right
21:27:52  <PublicServer> <Spike> where you have the space to build it
21:28:00  <PublicServer> <Spike> it's just cross over the track
21:28:08  <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh oncreasing space?
21:28:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes.
21:28:23  <PublicServer> <Spike> where you need space you can sometimes switch over
21:28:27  <PublicServer> <Spike> so using the availible space yes
21:28:57  <PublicServer> <scrlk> is it ok now?
21:29:11  <PublicServer> <Spike> yes...
21:29:15  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> how long is the biggest bridge un your slh
21:29:17  <PublicServer> <Spike> and as you see you had more then enough space :)
21:29:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Train running mad on 05.  *giggle*
21:29:46  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 10 tiles
21:29:50  <PublicServer> <scrlk> longest
21:29:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and if you type @gap 3
21:30:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> @gap3
21:30:20  <PublicServer> <Sylf> @commands are IRC only
21:30:22  <Vinnie> @gap3
21:30:26  <PublicServer> <Spike> @@gap 3
21:30:26  <Webster> PublicServer: (gap <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1.
21:30:36  <PublicServer> <scrlk> #
21:30:56  <^Spike^> @gap 3
21:30:56  <Webster> ^Spike^: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4.
21:31:18  <KenjiE20> commands with arguments need () to be parsed mid message
21:31:23  <^Spike^> ....
21:31:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so you need 3 vridged
21:31:32  <^Spike^> better make a whole wiki page on that.. ;)
21:31:32  <KenjiE20> otherwise it doesn't know where it ends
21:31:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> bridges
21:31:54  <KenjiE20> yeah, I'll update later
21:31:55  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000CC86:
21:32:38  <PublicServer> <scrlk> my slh has all the movements right?
21:32:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
21:32:48  <PublicServer> <Spike> placing the normal signals behind the pre sigs makes them not really usefull
21:32:54  <PublicServer> <Spike> but that is just a side-note
21:33:10  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
21:33:10  <PublicServer> <Spike> and yes it does... the slh isn't an award winning one..
21:33:12  <PublicServer> <Spike> but it's a start :)
21:33:14  <PublicServer> <scrlk> opps yeah
21:33:16  <PublicServer> <scrlk> oops
21:33:20  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well pbs vs pre
21:33:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> scrlkwanna start over and try again?
21:33:46  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ran out of time
21:34:10  <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh well thanks guys for all the hlp
21:34:12  <PublicServer> <Spike> can always be rebuild later
21:34:12  <PublicServer> <scrlk> help!
21:34:15  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yep
21:34:49  <PublicServer> <scrlk> the world of junctions is a confusing one
21:34:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You're welcome.
21:34:56  <PublicServer> <Spike> not really..
21:35:00  <PublicServer> <Spike> just needs abstract thinking
21:35:04  <PublicServer> <Spike> makes it alot easier
21:35:06  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
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21:35:22  <PublicServer> <scrlk> makes me wonder how people build bbhs
21:35:27  <^Spike^> easy..
21:35:29  <^Spike^> their just SLH
21:35:32  <^Spike^> only more connections
21:35:38  <^Spike^> they're*
21:35:42  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yeah
21:35:52  <PublicServer> <scrlk> see 04
21:35:56  <^Spike^> you even got a fairly easy slh LR -> LR
21:36:05  <^Spike^> i had to start with LLRR -> LR
21:36:15  <PublicServer> <scrlk> wow
21:36:21  <PublicServer> <mfb> the TTT-thing was LLRR->LR
21:36:45  <PublicServer> <scrlk> thats hard?
21:36:55  <PublicServer> <mfb> LR->LR is easier
21:37:07  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
21:37:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> just one line instead of 2 :p
21:37:14  <^Spike^> it's not hard llrr just need to manage more lines
21:37:17  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yeah
21:37:19  <^Spike^> they all end on one or split from 1
21:37:46  <PublicServer> *** scrlk has left the game (connection lost)
21:38:02  <scrlk> well all in all it could have been worse
21:38:59  <scrlk> i do have to admit the wiki was useless
21:39:07  <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (connection lost)
21:39:16  <^Spike^> to some extend...
21:39:26  <^Spike^> the game evolves alot quicker and also our ideas do that...
21:39:30  <^Spike^> then we can update the wiki
21:39:38  <^Spike^> but it's a good guideline
21:40:10  <scrlk> yeah
21:40:25  <scrlk> a guide to build a universal slh is lacking
21:40:38  <mfb-> there is no single way to build all SLHs
21:40:51  <KenjiE20> mark wrote a guood guide to that in wthe wiki
21:40:53  <KenjiE20> before he left
21:41:00  <scrlk> link?
21:41:00  <Vinnie> downloading psg from archive is the best way to learn
21:41:00  <^Spike^> ehm.. wasn't that the balancing one
21:41:06  <^Spike^> or was the the roundabout type one?
21:41:12  <KenjiE20> that or the network hie one
21:41:13  <KenjiE20> hei*
21:41:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> before he left he wrote balancing and srnw stations
21:41:31  <^Spike^> i thought his last blog was the balancing one idd
21:41:47  <^Spike^> i know which one you mean i think kenji
21:41:51  <^Spike^> it was the paint diagram
21:41:55  <^Spike^> with an expandable hub
21:41:57  <^Spike^> in general
21:42:20  <KenjiE20> ah, no, it was the BBH one I as thinking of
21:42:23  <^Spike^> yeah i call it paint.. cause it was just colored lines.. :)
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21:42:59  <scrlk> any links for slh guide?
21:43:14  <KenjiE20> @slowstart
21:43:14  <Webster> Read everything on the wiki, and I mean everything
21:43:16  <KenjiE20> :p
21:43:18  <^Spike^> :)
21:43:22  <^Spike^> @quickerstart
21:43:26  <^Spike^> doesn't exist.... :)
21:43:41  <scrlk> lol
21:43:51  <^Spike^> is it just me.. or is the blog panel slow
21:43:52  * planetmaker prefers
21:43:55  <planetmaker> @slowstart
21:43:55  <Webster> Read everything on the wiki, and I mean everything
21:44:00  <scrlk> well tbh i have read the wiki, its quite patchy
21:44:00  <planetmaker> always. works best
21:44:04  <KenjiE20> @alias add quickerstart "echo /part"
21:44:04  <Webster> KenjiE20: The operation succeeded.
21:44:07  <KenjiE20> :p
21:44:08  <scrlk> blog is slow
21:44:12  <^Spike^> :)
21:44:18  <scrlk> lol
21:44:26  <mfb-> @quickerstart
21:44:26  <Webster> /part
21:44:29  <mfb-> :)
21:44:34  <KenjiE20> <-- read those
21:44:40  <Mazur> And quickest start is "read nothing, ignore everyone, and achieve banning in one afternoon".
21:44:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> xD
21:44:53  <KenjiE20> that will give you the grounding in actually building, rather than the general concepts
21:45:55  <scrlk>
21:45:58  <scrlk> this good?
21:45:59  <KenjiE20> you should easily be able to take bbh and balancing and use them to build things
21:46:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> no, that isnt good :)
21:46:15  <mfb-> :p
21:46:20  <Vinnie> all abr are good
21:46:22  <^Spike^> V cause? :)
21:46:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> well it wont tell you much if you havent built like 50 hubs already
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21:46:44  <^Spike^> true
21:46:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> or more, irk
21:46:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk
21:46:55  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00032AD8:
21:48:13  <Vinnie> !password
21:48:13  <PublicServer> Vinnie: flaked
21:48:27  <KenjiE20> you know, one day, I may actually go all out and rebuild the wiki from scratch locally
21:48:37  <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game
21:48:37  <scrlk> wow
21:48:41  <scrlk> that could be nice
21:48:41  <KenjiE20> ETA on that would be like 2029 though
21:48:51  <^Spike^> i think you guys were busy with rebuilding the articles on the wiki with mark etc
21:48:55  <^Spike^> but then he left..
21:48:56  <KenjiE20> we were
21:48:59  <^Spike^> and well... it silenced
21:49:00  <KenjiE20> that totally stalled
21:49:16  <KenjiE20> and I got distracted by lots of non coop stuff
21:49:18  <^Spike^> oh wait the blog article i meant ia a bad spiral design
21:49:22  <^Spike^> dwarf? ;)
21:49:25  <KenjiE20> yes
21:49:36  <KenjiE20> df 2010 stole me
21:49:38  <scrlk> the wiki is depressing for new players
21:49:47  <^Spike^> @rules
21:49:48  <Webster> Ruleset - #openttdcoop Wiki -
21:49:52  <scrlk> really old concepts you don't see
21:49:55  <KenjiE20> it's hard to document coop in a wiki
21:49:56  <^Spike^> that is the important one :)
21:50:00  <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost)
21:50:01  <^Spike^> and that
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21:50:07  <Sylf> bah
21:50:09  <^Spike^> you learn most by playing
21:50:13  <KenjiE20> we change and tweak every game
21:50:19  <^Spike^> as i said... we come up with new ideas all the time
21:50:28  <Sylf> I'll just take a break now
21:50:29  <scrlk> yep
21:50:35  <^Spike^> @wiki naming conventions
21:50:36  <Webster> ^Spike^: "Communication" (Redirect from "Naming conventions"):
21:50:37  <Webster> ^Spike^:
21:50:38  <Webster> ^Spike^: This article is a reference to the different types of communication expected to be used in coop server games.
21:50:40  <scrlk> anything that stays roughly the name?
21:50:44  <^Spike^> also is important
21:50:55  <^Spike^> main lines
21:50:58  <^Spike^> just straight and signal :D
21:50:59  <KenjiE20> basically every article refereence in @@quickstart :p
21:51:00  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
21:51:33  <^Spike^> main lines are the only things that stay the same in 99% of the games :)
21:51:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> less :p
21:51:51  <KenjiE20> every that's questionable
21:51:55  <KenjiE20> even*
21:52:03  <^Spike^> like i said 99% :)
21:52:09  <^Spike^> sometimes we use it totally different
21:52:12  <scrlk> theres like 4 guides to start
21:52:18  <scrlk> one on the blog
21:52:20  <^Spike^> but in most cases it's straight... and has signals :)
21:52:20  <scrlk> one quick start
21:52:24  <scrlk> lol
21:52:45  <scrlk> shame the wiki rewrite stalled i would have loved to see that
21:52:54  <KenjiE20> we got some done
21:52:59  <KenjiE20> but it's a massive job
21:53:00  <^Spike^> it would've been outdated by now ;)
21:53:02  <scrlk> yep
21:53:15  <scrlk> well im guessing edits dont come quickly in this game
21:53:18  <KenjiE20> @wiki review event
21:53:19  <Webster> KenjiE20:
21:53:19  <^Spike^> atleast the most important stuff got done KenjiE20
21:53:20  <Webster> KenjiE20: There is no page titled "review event".
21:53:31  <KenjiE20> oh right
21:53:36  <^Spike^> cause having 50 rulesets 20 namingconventions etc
21:53:38  <^Spike^> wouldn't work
21:53:39  <PublicServer> *** slaca has left the game (connection lost)
21:53:42  <KenjiE20> some stuff isn't easily searched
21:53:47  <KenjiE20> @wiki Review Event
21:53:48  <Webster> KenjiE20:
21:53:49  <Webster> KenjiE20: There is no page titled "Review Event".
21:53:53  <KenjiE20> bah
21:53:56  <^Spike^> @wiki reviewevent
21:53:57  <^Spike^> ;)
21:54:07  <Webster> ^Spike^: Hmm, something went wrong fetching the page.  I'm highlighting quantumlemur so he can take a look.
21:54:13  <^Spike^> @wiki reviewevent
21:54:14  <Webster> ^Spike^:
21:54:15  <Webster> ^Spike^: There is no page titled "reviewevent".
21:54:19  <^Spike^> hmmm\
21:54:22  <KenjiE20> lol
21:54:23  <^Spike^> that surely is the page
21:54:26  <^Spike^>
21:54:33  <KenjiE20> yea
21:56:05  <^Spike^> well is mark has nothing to do in aussie land maybe he can continue on that? ;)
21:56:14  <^Spike^> they're flooded there anyways :D
21:56:16  <KenjiE20> only trouble is, now that page is probably horribly outdated now
21:56:23  <^Spike^> prob :)
21:56:37  <scrlk> re:signals
21:56:51  <scrlk> why not link to the main openttdiwki
21:57:03  <^Spike^> i get a feeling that i highlight one name he responds...
21:57:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> cause that is probably noob
21:57:16  <^Spike^> but has the P guy even helped that much KenjiE20? :)
21:57:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> openttd wiki doesnt really have much to do with proper building
21:57:40  <scrlk> well the signals part is ok
21:58:04  <KenjiE20> the openttd wiki is more "this is what x does"
21:58:12  <^Spike^> press F1 to..
21:58:14  <KenjiE20> not "this is how you make x do stuff"
21:58:14  <^Spike^> Press F2 to..
21:58:16  <^Spike^> etc that idea :)
21:58:28  <scrlk> yeah
21:59:05  <scrlk> i hope the wiki gets rewritten eventually
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21:59:10  <Mazur> Presse Papier to stop your notes from blowing out the window.
21:59:12  <KenjiE20> one day
21:59:22  <^Spike^> not by me...
21:59:23  <scrlk> with a system to make sure new concepts are always added
21:59:27  <^Spike^> college will take too much of my time
21:59:35  <^Spike^> getting my diploma is more important atm
21:59:42  <^Spike^> if i do it all right... july... or august... :)
22:00:01  <Ammler> scrlk: all this talk about our wiki but no edit at all
22:00:12  <scrlk> im a noob remember
22:00:15  <Ammler> you are really productive :-P
22:00:16  <scrlk> not qualified
22:00:23  <scrlk> i used to edit on wikipedia
22:00:27  <Ammler> then shut your mouth
22:00:35  <scrlk> :(
22:00:44  <KenjiE20> lol
22:00:45  <Mazur> En open your fingers.
22:00:51  <Mazur> s/En/And/
22:00:52  <scrlk> you mad ammler?
22:01:55  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000316D2:
22:01:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> V is the feeder station on 05 your own idea?
22:02:00  <Ammler> a wiki is not about telling how someone should edit it, a wiki is for editing right away
22:02:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> my idea is the realization
22:02:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> the feeder concept is Marks
22:02:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> in psg 199 it was made somehow, but I think it somehow failed ... this is different and should work properly,
22:02:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> at least that is what I think atm
22:03:03  <scrlk> fair point ammler
22:03:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> time might tell otherwise
22:03:48  <scrlk> im tempted to write a guide for irc
22:04:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you shut down the middle platforms on purpose?
22:04:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, they dont have any connection yet
22:04:21  <KenjiE20> @wiki irc
22:04:23  <Webster> KenjiE20: "IRC" (Redirect from "Irc"):
22:04:24  <Webster> KenjiE20:
22:04:25  <Webster> KenjiE20: IRC (Internet Relay Chat) is used to improve the communication between all players and friends of #openttdcoop.
22:04:34  <KenjiE20> pretty sure that one covers most of it
22:04:37  *** DayDreamer1 has joined #openttdcoop
22:04:39  <scrlk> ok maybe not
22:05:15  <scrlk> what non-writing roles do you need in the wiki?
22:05:46  *** DayDreamer has quit IRC
22:06:03  * Rubidium feels bad about the whole #openttdcoop wiki is outdated
22:06:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, that feeder station is really large now
22:06:17  <scrlk> lol
22:06:19  <^Spike^> Rubidium you volunteering? ;)
22:06:43  <Rubidium> ^Spike^: no, considering stopping introducing changes to OpenTTD that outdate the #openttdcoop wiki
22:06:46  <scrlk> lol go on
22:06:50  <^Spike^> :)
22:07:18  <^Spike^> but we like the new stuff... just takes time to incorporate it in ottdc and then... write a wiki item..
22:07:18  <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost)
22:07:34  <scrlk> +1 spike
22:07:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, wiki item means efford
22:07:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> effort
22:07:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> and that is kind of rare resource :)
22:08:08  <Ammler> Rubidium: 5 years coop wiki content might still be better as openttd wiki content from 1 week ago ;-)
22:08:13  <KenjiE20> scrlk: if you REALLY want to, pick some pages and check them over ccording to the meta templates on REviewEvent
22:08:24  <PublicServer> <mfb> what happens if there is only one train waiting in the bays? any possibility for the iron to get on a train?
22:08:34  <scrlk> ok if and when i have time i will do it
22:08:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> mfb: ?
22:08:49  <Rubidium> Ammler: but on the openttd wiki people are at least translating the totally useless outdated information, to make it even worse
22:08:49  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh.. forget it
22:08:55  <PublicServer> <mfb> only one train at a time
22:09:18  *** hylje has quit IRC
22:09:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> works with both 1 or 2
22:09:31  <Ammler> yeah, someone should translate the 2->2 load balancer wiki page
22:09:40  <KenjiE20> preferably the order is check -> reviewevent page; add comment; move to looked at if agreed go add tag to page
22:09:54  <scrlk> ok
22:10:06  <PublicServer> *** Razmir has joined spectators
22:10:09  <Ammler> scrlk: time is no excuse
22:10:41  <scrlk> this comes from the same man who plays ottd deathmatch
22:10:44  <scrlk> where you die in rl
22:11:04  <KenjiE20> make sure you add a timestamped comment when you add it and move it correctly
22:11:13  <KenjiE20> or someone (me) will come down hard
22:11:13  <scrlk> ok
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22:15:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> fuck yes, victory :D
22:15:57  <^Spike^> ?
22:16:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> just had to take one little line out of the mess
22:16:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> was hell
22:16:56  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002FCDC:
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22:24:35  <Dominik2000> !password
22:24:35  <PublicServer> Dominik2000: diners
22:25:48  <Dominik2000> hello
22:25:55  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
22:27:16  <Dominik2000> i'm new to openttd, and want to look at your public server to gain experience
22:27:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> @@quickstart
22:27:31  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
22:27:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> start with this :p
22:27:51  <Dominik2000> i have read this already
22:28:04  <Vinnie> then get ingame :)
22:28:10  <Dominik2000> i played transport tycoon long time ago
22:28:12  <KenjiE20> you might want to start with the stable server we run
22:28:26  <Dominik2000> i cannot connect to your server because there is a version confilct
22:28:38  <KenjiE20> @quickstart
22:28:39  <mfb-> !dl win32
22:28:39  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
22:28:39  <PublicServer> mfb-:
22:28:40  <KenjiE20> ^
22:28:56  <Dominik2000> thank you
22:29:12  <KenjiE20> the answers you seek are in quickstart
22:29:41  <Dominik2000> ok sorry, then i don't read this already, i'm very sorry
22:29:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> just read it :p
22:30:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> a powerplant never dies,right?
22:30:05  <KenjiE20> right
22:31:56  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00030EC8:
22:32:57  <Dominik2000> !dl win64
22:32:57  <PublicServer> Dominik2000:
22:34:04  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> what does the connection with the exitsignal between inner and outer on island 03 do?
22:34:06  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> i don't get it
22:34:21  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
22:34:23  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> in the shifters
22:34:29  <planetmaker> read up on prios possibly. or sml
22:34:31  <PublicServer> <mfb> 02?
22:34:38  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> 02* yeah
22:34:42  <KenjiE20> that baffled me too actually
22:34:51  <KenjiE20> it's right in the midle of the prio
22:34:53  <KenjiE20> middle*
22:35:01  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> is it prio?
22:35:02  <KenjiE20> randomly jumps over to the other line
22:35:03  <PublicServer> <mfb> fail-safe. if the train wants to shift and another train enters the prio, the train can still shift
22:35:14  <KenjiE20> it's not connected that way
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22:36:14  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> oh ok:)
22:36:14  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> ty
22:36:16  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> where exactly? and oh, hi :-)
22:36:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> k
22:36:32  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> aye
22:36:52  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> and hi:P
22:36:54  <PublicServer> <mfb> see !proper shifter for a clean design
22:37:11  <KenjiE20> was on the W factory? exit on sml iirc
22:37:18  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> it's a speed-sensitive shifter in a sense
22:37:28  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> or rather speed-sensitive prio ;-)
22:37:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> prevents trains from slowing down there
22:37:49  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yeah
22:38:09  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> anyway, I was off to bed. So good night :-)
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22:38:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: some special gates I need
22:38:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> gn8
22:38:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
22:38:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sleep well, pm.
22:38:23  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> bye
22:38:37  <KenjiE20> lol nn pm
22:38:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, well, can't wait to see them in action.  :-)
22:38:53  <PublicServer> <mfb> gates for what?
22:39:11  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bill Gates.
22:39:44  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> :)
22:39:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> To charge him money for even thinking about us.
22:39:50  <PublicServer> <mfb> who needs gates if there are no fences?
22:40:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, but I got fences living in my neighbourhood.
22:40:30  <Dominik2000> !password
22:40:30  <PublicServer> Dominik2000: jested
22:40:45  <PublicServer> *** Dominik joined the game
22:40:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
22:40:56  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Welcome, Dominik.
22:41:08  <PublicServer> <Dominik> hello
22:41:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> hello
22:42:51  <PublicServer> <mfb> interesting thing
22:43:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> will serve well :)
22:43:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> maglev trains looks if there are regular rails
22:43:28  <PublicServer> <mfb> *train
22:43:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure, they are lost
22:43:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> when there is the rail, that means they can turn around
22:43:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont ask me why
22:44:06  <PublicServer> *** anyone joined the game
22:44:15  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> "interesting thing".. i got that on my mind since i joined 3 days ago :)
22:44:49  <PublicServer> <mfb> I like logic gates :)
22:45:38  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> me too
22:45:49  <PublicServer> <mfb> so let's look what that should do
22:45:54  <PublicServer> <mfb> (and what it will do)
22:46:09  <PublicServer> <mfb> (and hope that it is the same)
22:46:56  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00031CCC:
22:49:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke im off for tonight. cya
22:49:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
22:49:59  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> bye
22:50:01  <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving)
22:50:09  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bye, Vindication.
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22:53:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> k
22:53:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> almost done
22:54:13  <PublicServer> <mfb> second feeder with the same x as pickup?
22:54:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
22:54:49  <PublicServer> <mfb> just wondering what you are building
22:54:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> something different
22:55:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> hopefully similar to the first two
22:55:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> but working better
22:56:10  <KenjiE20> heh, that last screen was good, caught an demo mid blast
22:57:18  <PublicServer> *** anyone has left the game (connection lost)
22:58:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> ready, now some mine
22:59:18  <Ammler> we should update, station gui
22:59:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> nice
22:59:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Or Lyons.
22:59:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Or even Paris.
23:00:10  <Ammler> !playercount
23:00:10  <PublicServer> Ammler: Number of players: 9 (4 spectators)
23:00:14  <Ammler> :-o
23:00:18  <KenjiE20> do it in the morning
23:00:19  <Ammler> !players
23:00:22  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 312 (Orange) is mfb, in company 1 (psg200)
23:00:22  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 156 (Orange) is sample, in company 1 (psg200)
23:00:22  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 141 is tycoondemon, a spectator
23:00:22  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 308 is Razmir, a spectator
23:00:22  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 332 is Dominik, a spectator
23:00:23  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 178 is Spike, a spectator
23:00:23  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 165 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (psg200)
23:00:25  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 317 (Orange) is Mazur, in company 1 (psg200)
23:00:25  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 325 (Orange) is Atoompje, in company 1 (psg200)
23:00:33  <Ammler> who is sample?
23:00:40  <KenjiE20> a) usually less, b) you'll have time to unbork
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23:00:53  <Mazur> Never heard of it.
23:01:26  <Ammler> !rcon kick 156
23:01:26  <PublicServer> Ammler: ‎*** sample has left the game (kicked by server)
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23:01:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> is the gate working as intended?
23:01:57  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000324CC:
23:01:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
23:01:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> not atm
23:02:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe make the arrow longer?
23:02:11  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah k
23:02:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> now yes
23:02:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
23:02:22  <PublicServer> <mfb> good
23:02:23  <Mazur> We had an "anyone" earlier today, as well.
23:02:34  <Ammler> :-)
23:03:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> without the arrows :P
23:03:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> for sure
23:03:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> hooray
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23:04:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> works as should, thats ok for now
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23:04:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> any circuit design available? :D
23:04:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont think
23:04:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont need it either
23:05:09  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Can I ask what it achieves?
23:05:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
23:05:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is basically a not gate
23:05:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> but with a difference that it can be chained
23:05:51  <PublicServer> <mfb> is there a connection missing?
23:06:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> because it provides red by train in a block, not by signal logic
23:06:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, that was missing
23:06:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm
23:06:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> there might be a problem, let me think
23:07:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh yes, bad bad :)
23:07:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> it needs both 2 bays to be full
23:07:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm
23:09:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> what would this do
23:10:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm that actually should work :))
23:11:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> but when I think about it, there might not be any difference between the two ways I built it
23:11:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> the newer one might just make more sense
23:13:31  <mfb-> so you have "let feeder in if 1 AND 2 AND (NOT X)"?
23:13:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont know that stuff
23:14:24  <mfb-> simple AND connection for bay 1 and 2 might do the same there
23:14:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> but it is required that: 1. there is at least 1 train waiting, 2. the X is empty (so that the waiting train can move), 3. there is a platform at the transfer drop empty
23:14:29  <mfb-> red if both are red
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23:14:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes but you couldnt detect the empty platforms
23:14:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> but that isnt a problem
23:14:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats why I say both work the same way
23:15:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> do you detect them?
23:15:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
23:15:06  <PublicServer> <mfb> where?
23:15:18  <PublicServer> <Mazur> He reads hte X exit signals.
23:15:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> the whole thing goes around all gates and then returns back to the station
23:15:39  <PublicServer> <mfb> which X exit signals?
23:15:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, blocksignals.
23:16:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> top hte platforms.
23:16:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> no, I dont detect those
23:16:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> but that is also an idea
23:16:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> that might be worth some improvement :| next time :p
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23:17:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> theoretically, it should work this way
23:17:15  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That would read the platforms and the entrance to them.
23:17:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> because the drops have no better throughput than the pickups
23:17:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> it should be good I think
23:17:55  <PublicServer> <mfb> should work
23:19:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Station has rtoubler sitting down: it's got a case of mineral piles.
23:19:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> should look nice when it gets more trains
23:19:42  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes.
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23:20:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Those stepped pile tiles almost beg for a loader bnulldozer bulldozing upwards.
23:20:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Or that.
23:24:50  <PublicServer> <mfb> good night
23:24:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> gn
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23:25:09  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sleep well.
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23:26:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> <3
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23:30:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, the shipping office hs a fridge full of beer.  If you need me, look for me there.
23:30:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, on tap, even.
23:31:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> beer we need doesnt fit into one little shipping office
23:31:26  <PublicServer> <Mazur> True.
23:31:52  <PublicServer> <Mazur> BUt usually the brewer springs for an underground tank.  I guess with all the space here, above ground was cheaper and easier.
23:31:57  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000160B5:
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23:32:29  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I guess I won't drink that empty tonight.
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23:32:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> arent expected to :p
23:33:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Still a pity, though, there was a kind of honour to pulling 200+ glasses from a 50 l. cask without closing the tap.
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23:34:06  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Did that once on a great party.
23:34:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 2 others serving them out, and a third person keeping clean glasses at hand.
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23:40:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> alright
23:40:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> that would be it for me for today
23:40:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> gnight
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23:40:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sleep well.
23:40:40  <V453000> you too :p
23:40:48  <Mazur> Ewentually.
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