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00:10:54 *** Tray- has quit IRC 00:11:35 *** TheRisen has joined #openttdcoop 00:13:32 *** TheRisen has left #openttdcoop 00:15:40 *** Intexon has quit IRC 00:17:04 *** Vitus has quit IRC 00:23:57 <Sylf> !password 00:23:57 <PublicServer> Sylf: zodiac 00:24:20 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 00:24:22 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 00:26:09 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 00:27:54 <Mazur> Hey,. Sylf. 00:28:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00007DB1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00007DB1.png 00:28:54 * Mazur is reading Wikileaks docs from the American Embassy in the Hague about the Dutch Afghanistan mission. 00:29:35 <Sylf> hey hey 00:29:53 <Sylf> I'm packing to head out for a weekend ski trip :) 00:31:33 <Mazur> Rather you than me. 00:32:00 <Mazur> I have a weekend supermarket trip to look forward to tomorrow, though. 00:44:39 *** Progman has quit IRC 00:45:32 *** kei has quit IRC 00:51:15 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 00:56:10 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:56:17 *** thgergo has quit IRC 01:30:05 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 02:12:53 *** perk11 has quit IRC 02:30:17 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 02:41:18 *** pugi has quit IRC 03:05:20 *** benom has quit IRC 03:19:41 *** avdg has left #openttdcoop 03:30:52 *** Fuco has quit IRC 05:41:12 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 07:22:31 <planetmaker> moin 07:32:07 *** Ohlol has joined #openttdcoop 07:32:14 <Ohlol> !d w32 07:32:24 <Ohlol> !help 07:32:24 <PublicServer> Ohlol: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 07:33:13 <Ohlol> !download 07:33:13 <PublicServer> Ohlol: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 07:33:13 <PublicServer> Ohlol: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r21762 07:33:25 <Ohlol> !download win32 07:33:25 <PublicServer> Ohlol: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21762/openttd-trunk-r21762-windows-win32.zip 07:33:43 *** Ohlol has quit IRC 07:38:48 <planetmaker> !clients 07:53:37 *** roboboy has quit IRC 07:57:06 *** hylje has joined #openttdcoop 07:57:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o hylje 08:34:26 *** dutchie has quit IRC 08:36:04 *** dutchie has joined #openttdcoop 08:43:13 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 08:55:40 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 09:05:26 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 09:06:59 *** dutchie has quit IRC 09:13:17 *** perk11 has quit IRC 09:15:44 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 09:31:46 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 09:31:46 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 09:45:49 *** perk11 has quit IRC 10:04:55 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 10:09:35 <Mazur> Moar ning, pm. 10:12:32 <V453000> hai :p 10:13:25 <Mazur> And V. 10:15:48 <Mazur> I fgscked up an AI in my private game, 'cos it hijacked my road to transport coal to the powerstation before I even could build a depot. 10:16:33 <V453000> solution: do not use AIs :) 10:16:39 <Mazur> It's now got 20-odd trucks running around on disconncted bits of my roads. 10:17:07 <Mazur> Yeah, but my settings are off from playing networked games 10:17:14 <planetmaker> !rcon set clear_per_64k_frames 10:17:14 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current value for 'clear_per_64k_frames' is: '4194304' (min: 0, max: 1073741824) 10:17:34 <Mazur> And/or new versions. 10:17:37 <planetmaker> !rcon set clear_per_64k_frames 40000 10:17:54 <planetmaker> !rcon set terraform_per_64k_frames 100000 10:18:02 <planetmaker> !rcon set clear_burst_frame 10:18:03 <PublicServer> planetmaker: 'clear_burst_frame' is an unknown setting. 10:18:11 <planetmaker> !rcon set clear_frame_burst 10:18:11 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current value for 'clear_frame_burst' is: '4096' (min: 0, max: 1073741824) 10:18:22 <planetmaker> !rcon set clear_frame_burst 225 10:18:32 <planetmaker> !rcon set terraform_frame_burst 10:18:32 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current value for 'terraform_frame_burst' is: '4096' (min: 0, max: 1073741824) 10:18:35 <V453000> not like we need to limit TF on PS 10:18:38 <planetmaker> !rcon set terraform_frame_burst 225 10:18:43 <V453000> pm? 10:18:49 <planetmaker> V453000: it's only protection for bad people 10:18:55 <planetmaker> s/for/against 10:18:58 <V453000> meh, true 10:19:09 <planetmaker> so no-one can mass-terraform the map anymore. Only 15^2 in one go 10:19:12 <V453000> yea 10:19:18 <planetmaker> not against us :-) 10:19:50 <planetmaker> @calc 64**2 10:19:50 <Webster> planetmaker: 4096 10:20:00 <planetmaker> but 64^2 is a bit much and not needed anyway 10:20:06 <V453000> true 10:20:50 <planetmaker> well. just increase it again, if the limits I set now are too low :-) 10:20:57 <planetmaker> they're not meant to restrict us 10:21:18 <V453000> sure 10:21:37 <V453000> I was finding some edge myself, where it still doesnt limit you but prevents bad things :) 10:21:43 <V453000> ofc I dont remember it atm :) 10:21:46 <planetmaker> most likely the "per_64k" settings are the limiting ones, not the burst 10:21:55 <planetmaker> hehe 10:22:29 <V453000> true 10:22:39 <V453000> but the burst can make it a lot more uncomfortable :) 10:22:43 <planetmaker> though maybe also the burst is too low for the early start when people build stations and hubs and terraform for that - on various places, but concurrently 10:23:04 <planetmaker> burst can make it comfortable? How? 10:23:31 <V453000> uncomfortable 10:23:40 *** scrlk has joined #openttdcoop 10:23:41 <planetmaker> oh :-P 10:23:41 <scrlk> !password 10:23:41 <PublicServer> scrlk: zodiac 10:23:49 <V453000> :) 10:23:52 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:23:55 <PublicServer> *** scrlk joined the game 10:24:02 <planetmaker> well, also the burst shall not limit us. Just a mass-terraform or demolish 10:24:24 <PublicServer> <scrlk> hi all 10:24:42 <V453000> indeed 10:24:43 <V453000> hello 10:24:59 <PublicServer> <scrlk> server is a bit dead 10:25:12 <planetmaker> [11:17] <V453000> clear is just deletion of trees and stuff? <-- that means to use the dynamite/bomb tool. So: yes 10:25:19 <planetmaker> hi scrlk 10:25:24 <V453000> yea 10:25:25 <PublicServer> <scrlk> hi pm 10:25:27 <PublicServer> <scrlk> how are you doing? 10:25:32 <V453000> that is also quite interesting 10:25:42 <V453000> because it lets you terraform some place and then edit it as you need 10:26:35 <planetmaker> hu? It basically limits also deleting stuff like tracks, houses, ... 10:26:37 <PublicServer> <scrlk> could someone join the server please? i'd like to do some work on island 13 10:27:15 <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh btw v453000, your slh 04-01 is jammed up again 10:27:26 <V453000> yea, but it lets you delete lets say 10x10 tiles of trees or grass, and there you can then terraform as you want 10:27:46 <V453000> so it just restricts the square where you can do stuff, not how much of it 10:28:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002B442: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002B442.png 10:28:28 <planetmaker> Well, in a way, yes. Though I *think* just building a new track on top of a tree doesn't count there, so you could still build new tracks 10:28:49 <V453000> I see 10:29:02 *** ppetak has joined #openttdcoop 10:29:14 <ppetak> !players 10:29:17 <PublicServer> ppetak: Client 448 (Orange) is scrlk, in company 1 (psg200) 10:29:33 <scrlk> might need some more players ;) 10:31:57 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:31:57 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:31:58 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker joined the game 10:32:01 <PublicServer> <scrlk> thanks pm 10:32:20 <planetmaker> I first had to compile ;-) 10:32:46 <ppetak> I will be there in a moment, downloading trunk, I'm on my parents' puter .. 10:36:38 <ppetak> !password 10:36:38 <PublicServer> ppetak: severs 10:36:51 <PublicServer> *** Player has joined spectators 10:37:05 <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to ppetak 10:38:35 <PublicServer> *** ppetak has joined company #1 10:40:45 <PublicServer> <scrlk> so many industries popping up at 13 10:41:04 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 10:41:29 <PublicServer> <scrlk> who else thinsk that 13 could be improved? 10:41:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> elo 10:41:38 <PublicServer> <scrlk> hi 10:41:40 <PublicServer> <ppetak> hola 10:43:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001FA36: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001FA36.png 10:43:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> :( the feeder srnw is broken again 10:43:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> at this point I have totally no idea what could break 10:44:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> even worse, I have a testing savegame that works exactly the same, and it didnt break even once for almost 100 years of running 10:46:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> ugh 10:46:07 <PublicServer> <scrlk> ? 10:46:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> why does TTT eastern drop have goods waiting 10:46:34 <PublicServer> <scrlk> no trains? 10:46:38 <PublicServer> <scrlk> 2 trains :/ 10:46:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> and pickup nothing 10:46:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf 10:46:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> nice 10:47:24 <PublicServer> <scrlk> good eyecandy though... 10:47:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 10:47:38 <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh the little crates of goods 10:47:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> east, not west 10:47:51 <PublicServer> <scrlk> you might want to inject more trains though 10:48:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> refinery goods pickup has NO goods trains 10:48:07 <PublicServer> <scrlk> both goods on 13 hve backlogs 10:48:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> it even drops some grain one 10:48:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> im not talking about backlogs but that there are goods in DROP 10:48:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> which is the source of the jam 10:48:29 <PublicServer> <scrlk> wtf 10:48:33 <PublicServer> <scrlk> theres pax? 10:48:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> pax is ok 10:48:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> goods are way worse 10:48:56 <PublicServer> <scrlk> did someone bring a pax train in or something? 10:48:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> which means we need to reroute ALL dropping trains to the pickup 10:49:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> and reverse stations 10:49:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 10:49:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> oil trains 10:49:34 <PublicServer> <scrlk> pax trains 10:50:48 <PublicServer> <scrlk> wheres the location of the steel mill for steel pickup? 10:51:32 *** perk111 has joined #openttdcoop 10:52:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is nicely fucked up 10:52:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> very nice 10:52:23 <PublicServer> <scrlk> what is? 10:52:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> the eastern station 10:52:47 <PublicServer> <scrlk> wow 10:52:57 <PublicServer> <scrlk> who added 10 trains for 13 coal 3? 10:53:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> the two stations must be deleter 10:53:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> and rebuilt 10:53:57 <PublicServer> <scrlk> yep :( 10:53:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> brb in 20 minutes 10:54:01 <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok 10:54:05 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined spectators 10:56:23 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker has left the game (leaving) 10:56:58 *** perk11 has quit IRC 10:58:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002158D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002158D.png 10:59:35 <planetmaker> hm. In newer versions the scrolling in the stationGUI is much better ;-) 10:59:41 <PublicServer> <scrlk> yep :D 10:59:47 <PublicServer> <scrlk> the scroll is too slow though 10:59:57 <PublicServer> <scrlk> in this rev 11:00:00 <planetmaker> that's what I'm saying... 11:00:11 <PublicServer> <scrlk> misread 1st time :/ 11:08:08 *** TheRisen has joined #openttdcoop 11:08:14 *** TheRisen has left #openttdcoop 11:12:23 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 11:12:29 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 11:13:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00025E2C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00025E2C.png 11:15:51 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 11:24:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> good they fixed it :) because this is really too slow :) 11:24:27 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined company #1 11:27:31 <PublicServer> <scrlk> someone is redoing 13 drop ect? 11:27:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> I said it needs redoing 11:27:42 <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok 11:27:44 <PublicServer> <scrlk> have fun 11:28:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00026E17: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00026E17.png 11:28:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> OH 11:28:34 <PublicServer> <scrlk> can we refit the oil to something else other than pax? 11:28:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> some very kind person removed my depot 11:28:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> no need 11:29:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> proper train orders are enough 11:29:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> unload and leave empty 11:29:22 <PublicServer> <scrlk> any way to specify not to load pax? 11:29:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> all that does it 11:31:24 <PublicServer> <scrlk> transfered cargo? 11:31:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> only wasnt connected to the industries yet 11:31:49 <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok 11:34:23 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 11:34:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:36:36 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 11:38:30 <PublicServer> <scrlk> bbh jam 13? 11:40:09 <PublicServer> <scrlk> we need more steel trains at 13# 11:41:17 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 11:43:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002A45B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002A45B.png 11:44:29 <PublicServer> <scrlk> v you still here? 11:46:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, why 11:46:30 <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh is it ok to inject more trains into 13 factory goods pickup? 11:46:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 11:47:07 <PublicServer> <scrlk> how may trains do you reccomend for that station? 11:47:37 *** perk111 has quit IRC 11:48:19 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 11:48:29 <PublicServer> <scrlk> id say the station near narston needs a rework 11:50:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> why do you think so 11:50:28 <PublicServer> <scrlk> just seems slow 11:50:34 <PublicServer> <scrlk> the goods pickup jammed up 11:50:40 <PublicServer> <scrlk> earlier 11:52:58 <PublicServer> <scrlk> ive had to change the goods trains from full load 11:53:24 <PublicServer> <scrlk> v if you scroll out the station slows down the ml slightly 11:53:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> thats just poor balancing 11:53:59 <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh ok 11:54:07 <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh there we do its locked up 11:54:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> fucking dumb PBS 11:54:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> look what it does 11:54:49 <PublicServer> <scrlk> is that why people delete pbs? 11:54:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> partially 11:55:57 <PublicServer> <scrlk> its ok for small stations right? 11:56:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> there it cant do much bad 11:56:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> but it isnt needed either 11:56:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> so presignals should be used 11:57:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> in my opinion the only reason why to use PBS is when some feature of the station requires it 11:57:15 <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok 11:57:17 <KenjiE20> no, it's okay, if you have a particular need for two trains to traverse a single junction at once 11:57:41 <PublicServer> <scrlk> so use with caution 11:57:51 <KenjiE20> no, use when needed 11:57:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> do not use unless necessary 11:57:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> better way to put it 11:57:59 <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok thanks :) 11:58:09 <PublicServer> <scrlk> presignals > pbs 11:58:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002AE58: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002AE58.png 11:58:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> cant really be compared 11:58:41 <PublicServer> <scrlk> so its all about the tim e and place 11:58:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> quite 11:59:48 <KenjiE20> like pretty much everything in this game 12:00:09 <KenjiE20> except ships, there's never a time and place for them 12:00:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> ye :) 12:00:51 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 12:01:01 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 12:02:22 <PublicServer> <scrlk> out of intrest why ttt with monorail? 12:03:33 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 12:04:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> because the most famous TTT games were with monorail? 12:04:54 <PublicServer> <scrlk> any advantages to mono vs el/ml/r? 12:04:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> besides, why not :) 12:05:08 <PublicServer> <scrlk> i guess you dont see mono much 12:05:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> no, no real advantage ... maybe the tiny bit of capacity for Z1 but nothing really 12:05:48 <PublicServer> <scrlk> 13 oil one needs more platforms imo 12:07:32 <PublicServer> <Mazur> That directoin might perform a little better than hte other. 12:09:47 <PublicServer> <scrlk> id like to have a do at redoing the oil station 12:09:47 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 12:10:59 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 12:13:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001843C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001843C.png 12:22:28 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 12:23:07 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 12:25:01 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 12:25:04 <V453000> gtg 12:25:05 <V453000> later 12:25:09 <PublicServer> <scrlk> bye 12:25:11 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Baai. 12:25:15 <PublicServer> <ppetak> baj 12:26:26 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 12:28:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002541F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002541F.png 12:33:51 <PublicServer> <scrlk> anyone still here? 12:35:22 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes. 12:35:32 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Otherwise the game'd be paused. 12:36:15 *** kei has joined #openttdcoop 12:38:52 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 12:38:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 12:43:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002CA33: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002CA33.png 12:53:21 <fonsinchen> So, you are having problems with auto-orders, which you have solved by always filling the orderlist with meaningless orders and thus preventing auto orders from being created. 12:53:35 <fonsinchen> Unfortunately I can't see the exact problem like this. 12:53:43 <fonsinchen> I have written a patch that does 2 things: 12:53:56 <fonsinchen> 1. It prevents auto orders from being created if the order list is empty 12:54:38 <fonsinchen> 2. It removes unreached auto orders not only when reaching an ordered station, but also when reaching an ordered waypoint or depot. 12:55:06 <fonsinchen> Would that solve your problem and if not, can you show me a case where something else is necessary? 12:55:44 *** benom has quit IRC 12:56:48 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 12:56:51 <PublicServer> <scrlk> anyone like the pax overflow line near narston? 12:57:30 *** Vinnie has joined #openttdcoop 12:57:34 <Vinnie> !PASSWORD 12:57:40 <Vinnie> !password 12:57:40 <PublicServer> Vinnie: fiends 12:57:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hello 12:57:54 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 12:57:58 <PublicServer> <scrlk> hi vinnie 12:58:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00028E1F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00028E1F.png 12:58:30 <PublicServer> <ppetak> gtg, bze 12:58:33 <PublicServer> <scrlk> bye 12:58:35 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya 12:58:39 <PublicServer> <ppetak> hehe :) 12:58:42 <PublicServer> *** ppetak has left the game (connection lost) 13:03:31 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 13:05:25 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 13:05:32 <PublicServer> <Intexon> hi 13:05:34 <PublicServer> <scrlk> HI 13:05:36 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hello 13:06:14 <PublicServer> *** scrlk has left the game (connection lost) 13:06:19 <scrlk> :/ 13:06:21 <scrlk> !PASSWORD 13:06:24 <scrlk> !password 13:06:24 <PublicServer> scrlk: fiends 13:06:36 <PublicServer> *** scrlk joined the game 13:07:32 <PublicServer> <scrlk> by providing a decent train service you boost the town rating right? 13:08:00 <PublicServer> <Intexon> you don't need to do that :P 13:08:10 <PublicServer> <scrlk> we really pissed off narston 13:08:17 <PublicServer> <Intexon> when you need to build, you nuke forest and plant again :D 13:08:24 <PublicServer> <scrlk> southern drop also has a backlog of pax 13:08:34 <PublicServer> <scrlk> so i decided why the heck not? 13:08:40 <PublicServer> <scrlk> its working 13:08:46 <PublicServer> <scrlk> i went from medicore to good 13:09:12 <PublicServer> <Intexon> be sure to use two tile trains :) 13:09:31 <PublicServer> <scrlk> nah they wont mind for a little overflow track 13:09:45 <PublicServer> <scrlk> anyway you cant get 840 pax on a ttt can you ;) 13:10:01 <PublicServer> <Intexon> guess not :P 13:10:07 <PublicServer> <scrlk> holy crap 13:10:13 <PublicServer> <scrlk> frinnville 13:10:15 <PublicServer> <scrlk> wow 13:10:19 <PublicServer> <scrlk> thats some city 13:11:32 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 13:11:36 <PublicServer> <scrlk> :/ 13:13:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002A659: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002A659.png 13:13:51 <fonsinchen> Maybe you can comment on http://bugs.openttd.org/task/4404 if you think your problems with auto orders aren't sufficiently addressed. 13:17:14 <PublicServer> <scrlk> who suggested the breaking gap at 13? 13:26:10 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what gap scrlk. Near whitch SLH or BBH? 13:26:31 <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh 13 factory goods 13:30:48 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 13:30:55 *** Vinnie has quit IRC 13:33:22 <PublicServer> <scrlk> 13 is jammed up... 13:35:56 *** ppetak has quit IRC 13:42:50 *** Mitcian has joined #openttdcoop 13:43:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00025C25: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00025C25.png 13:47:38 <PublicServer> <scrlk> yey! 13:47:56 <PublicServer> <scrlk> narston is now at outstanding 13:47:58 <PublicServer> <scrlk> from appaling 13:58:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002AE70: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002AE70.png 14:01:52 <PublicServer> <scrlk> who wants to rebuild the western station on 13? 14:13:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002CC74: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002CC74.png 14:16:28 *** kei has quit IRC 14:18:09 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 14:25:24 *** kei has joined #openttdcoop 14:27:39 *** Mitcian has quit IRC 14:28:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00028264: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00028264.png 14:43:13 *** Aali has quit IRC 14:43:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00028260: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00028260.png 14:43:25 *** Aali has joined #openttdcoop 14:47:23 *** perk11 has quit IRC 14:53:58 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 14:56:37 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 14:58:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002906A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002906A.png 15:04:56 *** OwenS has quit IRC 15:05:33 *** OwenS has joined #openttdcoop 15:05:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v OwenS 15:06:23 <PublicServer> <scrlk> anyone here? 15:06:26 <PublicServer> <scrlk> can they help me at 13 15:08:07 <Ammler> !players 15:08:09 <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 463 (Orange) is scrlk, in company 1 (psg200) 15:08:09 <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 456 (Orange) is Mazur, in company 1 (psg200) 15:08:18 <scrlk> hey ammler 15:08:27 <scrlk> could you help me with a station please? 15:08:31 <Ammler> hehe 15:08:39 <scrlk> ;) 15:08:54 <scrlk> after all you play ottd 'deathmatch' lol 15:09:25 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 15:09:26 <Ammler> !rcon move 456 255 15:09:26 <PublicServer> Ammler: you are not allowed to use !rcon 15:09:32 *** Ammler has left #openttdcoop 15:09:33 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop 15:09:33 *** Webster sets mode: +o Ammler 15:09:38 <PublicServer> <scrlk> if you go to island 13 15:09:44 <PublicServer> <scrlk> and see the western drop 15:09:54 <PublicServer> <scrlk> it locks up often 15:10:09 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> 2tiletrain nice 15:10:19 <PublicServer> <scrlk> yep every island has a different theme 15:10:38 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> what is with western drop? 15:10:52 <PublicServer> <scrlk> well it locks up often 15:10:55 <PublicServer> <scrlk> its ok at the moment 15:11:01 <PublicServer> <scrlk> but it has a tendency to lock up 15:11:13 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> penalty the first plattforms 15:11:29 <PublicServer> <scrlk> no idea about going around doing improvements im a noob :P 15:11:56 <PublicServer> <scrlk> do you think the entrance should be load balanced? 15:12:14 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> also you should use combos 15:12:21 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 15:12:40 *** PierreW_ has quit IRC 15:12:41 *** PierreW has joined #openttdcoop 15:12:44 <PublicServer> <scrlk> *watching and learning* 15:12:48 <PublicServer> <scrlk> its actually not my build 15:12:54 <PublicServer> <scrlk> i just noticed it locks up 15:13:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00029C4C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00029C4C.png 15:16:20 *** luckz has quit IRC 15:16:23 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 15:20:32 *** Osai has quit IRC 15:20:50 *** tneo has quit IRC 15:21:16 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> well, I would use pbs 15:21:20 *** Osai has joined #openttdcoop 15:21:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Osai 15:21:21 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop 15:21:21 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tneo 15:21:21 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> but I know, you don't like it 15:21:31 <PublicServer> <scrlk> pbs for the station? 15:21:34 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> yes 15:22:08 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> also to have merged exit and entry line looks silly 15:22:10 <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh ive been told that pbs is quite a niche 15:22:20 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> niche? 15:22:34 <PublicServer> <scrlk> from v453000 15:22:57 <Ammler> pbs is not useable for terminal stations 15:23:08 <PublicServer> <scrlk> he said that pbs uncrecomended for high traffic places 15:23:23 <PublicServer> <scrlk> he said it was fine for a low traffic terminal station 15:23:25 <Ammler> !players 15:23:28 <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 463 (Orange) is scrlk, in company 1 (psg200) 15:23:28 <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 456 (Orange) is Mazur, in company 1 (psg200) 15:23:28 <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 464 (Orange) is Amm1er, in company 1 (psg200) 15:23:33 <Ammler> !rcon move 456 255 15:23:33 <PublicServer> Ammler: *** Mazur has joined spectators 15:23:54 <PublicServer> <scrlk> here we go... the station is starting to jam up 15:25:50 <PublicServer> <scrlk> so ammler, you reccomend i change the signals back to pbs? 15:27:40 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> the station is ugly anyway 15:27:51 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> you should rather rebuild to a nicer one 15:27:53 <PublicServer> <scrlk> what would you do to improve it 15:27:57 <PublicServer> <scrlk> wow 15:28:03 <PublicServer> <scrlk> thats not my thing 15:28:19 <PublicServer> <scrlk> i get rage directed at me if i do something like that 15:28:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002A671: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002A671.png 15:28:27 *** roboboy has quit IRC 15:28:43 *** mulch has joined #openttdcoop 15:29:03 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> I would use the western to for one line and the other 2 for the other line 15:29:43 <PublicServer> <scrlk> go ahead and build it ammler, it would get a better receptiong than anything i would do 15:32:05 *** mulch has quit IRC 15:33:05 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> oh 15:33:08 <PublicServer> <scrlk> ? 15:33:11 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> that is drop and pickup mixed 15:33:17 <PublicServer> <scrlk> yep 15:33:23 <PublicServer> <scrlk> pickup on one side 15:33:25 <PublicServer> <scrlk> drop on the other 15:33:33 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> how ugly is that? 15:33:44 <PublicServer> <scrlk> very 15:33:59 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> now, I got why it jamed up sometimes 15:34:09 <PublicServer> <scrlk> :) 15:34:19 <PublicServer> <scrlk> it was a rush job to get the network up and running 15:34:41 <PublicServer> <scrlk> is it possible to combine both? 15:34:51 <PublicServer> <scrlk> and load balance the entrance and exit? 15:38:57 <PublicServer> <scrlk> so your plan? 15:43:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002A672: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002A672.png 15:47:26 *** Mitcian has joined #openttdcoop 15:50:18 *** luckz has joined #openttdcoop 15:50:20 <PublicServer> <scrlk> im guessing you are done ammler? 15:50:52 *** greenlion_ has quit IRC 15:52:57 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> yes, fine enough, isn't? 15:53:31 <PublicServer> <scrlk> i dont know, you are the experianced one 15:53:49 *** Razmir has joined #openttdcoop 15:53:49 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> I am not really experienced 15:54:11 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> I rarly play 15:54:49 <PublicServer> <Razmir> hi 15:54:50 <PublicServer> *** Razmir joined the game 15:55:03 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> Salü :-) 15:55:18 <PublicServer> <scrlk> hi 15:56:56 <PublicServer> <scrlk> im doing eyecandy now 15:57:22 *** benom has quit IRC 15:58:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002C453: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002C453.png 15:59:20 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> what did I just say? 15:59:28 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> no pbs on terminal stations 15:59:29 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 15:59:32 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 15:59:32 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 15:59:32 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 15:59:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 15:59:32 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG200 (r21762) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | English only" 15:59:36 <PublicServer> <scrlk> just temp 15:59:50 <PublicServer> <scrlk> pre signals doesnt seem to be working re: clearing jam 15:59:56 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> still not working, rather fix the openttd bug :-P 16:00:46 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> this bug in now in trunk since more than a year 16:00:49 <Razmir> is there anything wrong with presignals really? 16:01:09 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> it was always wrong with presignals 16:01:19 <PublicServer> <scrlk> :S 16:01:25 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> and since around openttd 1.0, it is also wrong with pbs 16:01:40 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> "they 16:01:43 <PublicServer> <Razmir> and what? 16:02:02 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> " decided to make pbs as bad instead fixing the presignal bug 16:03:53 <PublicServer> <scrlk> wow 16:04:23 <PublicServer> <scrlk> how long does it take for a secondry industry to die off/ 16:04:59 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> depends, why? 16:05:25 <PublicServer> <scrlk> a new one cropped up in the middle of a loop 16:05:41 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> where? 16:05:53 <PublicServer> <scrlk> see !here 13 16:05:56 <PublicServer> <scrlk> (sign) 16:06:26 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> and why is that bad? 16:06:38 <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh i was intending to build something there 16:06:46 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> ok :-) 16:07:47 <PublicServer> <scrlk> the exit is rather slow 16:09:18 <PublicServer> <scrlk> fixed 16:09:20 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost) 16:09:25 <PublicServer> <scrlk> increased the signal density 16:13:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002B644: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002B644.png 16:18:23 <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok im calling it a day 16:18:26 <PublicServer> <scrlk> see you all later 16:18:28 <PublicServer> *** scrlk has left the game (connection lost) 16:18:28 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 16:18:33 *** scrlk has quit IRC 16:18:44 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 16:27:53 <PublicServer> *** Razmir has left the game (leaving) 16:28:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002A678: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002A678.png 16:47:32 *** hylje has quit IRC 16:47:44 *** hylje has joined #openttdcoop 16:47:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o hylje 17:08:44 *** Gammro has joined #openttdcoop 17:08:51 <Gammro> !password 17:08:51 <PublicServer> Gammro: chiefs 17:09:16 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:09:17 <PublicServer> *** Gammro joined the game 17:36:17 *** Hippidy has joined #openttdcoop 17:39:27 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 17:39:49 <PublicServer> *** Gammro has left the game (connection lost) 17:40:26 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 17:40:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 17:43:42 *** Gammro has quit IRC 18:10:47 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 18:22:54 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 18:24:31 *** dageek has joined #openttdcoop 18:26:46 *** dageek has quit IRC 18:46:59 *** MrMouthy has joined #openttdcoop 19:01:39 <MrMouthy> !help 19:01:39 <PublicServer> MrMouthy: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 19:01:49 <MrMouthy> !password 19:01:49 <PublicServer> MrMouthy: chiefs 19:03:11 <MrMouthy> !download 19:03:11 <PublicServer> MrMouthy: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 19:03:11 <PublicServer> MrMouthy: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r21762 19:08:37 <MrMouthy> !grf 19:08:37 <PublicServer> MrMouthy: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 8.0) 19:09:06 *** Chillosophy has joined #openttdcoop 19:09:28 *** perk11 has quit IRC 19:13:06 <PublicServer> *** MrMouthy joined the game 19:13:07 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:17:31 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 19:17:32 <V453000> MrMouthy? :) hi 19:17:46 <PublicServer> <MrMouthy> Hihi 19:18:08 <V453000> first time here? :) 19:18:18 <PublicServer> <MrMouthy> First time on pub server but no-ones playing :'( 19:18:56 <V453000> :) im coming soon 19:19:14 <PublicServer> <MrMouthy> Nice, im just here to watch :P 19:19:33 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 19:20:26 <V453000> !password 19:20:26 <PublicServer> V453000: chiefs 19:20:30 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 19:21:19 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:21:22 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:21:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> hai :p 19:21:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> feel free to join the company at any time 19:21:39 <PublicServer> <MrMouthy> Oh :P 19:21:45 <PublicServer> *** MrMouthy has joined company #1 19:21:45 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 19:21:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> and welcome :p 19:22:02 <PublicServer> *** MrMouthy has left the game (connection lost) 19:22:02 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 19:22:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 19:22:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> lag? 19:22:15 <MrMouthy> Ouch lag 19:22:41 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:22:41 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 19:22:42 <PublicServer> *** MrMouthy joined the game 19:23:00 <PublicServer> *** MrMouthy has left the game (connection lost) 19:23:02 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 19:23:06 <V453000> !url 19:23:07 <PublicServer> V453000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org 19:23:12 <V453000> if you want to just watch, see this site 19:23:15 <V453000> there are autosaves 19:23:21 <V453000> so you can open it locally 19:23:23 <MrMouthy> ok 19:24:46 <V453000> I could reset the stable server as well if you like ... the current game was a disaster 19:25:45 <MrMouthy> Lol i noticed 19:26:00 <MrMouthy> Ill wait for the others to come no point playing alone :P 19:26:50 <V453000> the others will come soon when I restart it :) 19:27:38 <MrMouthy> :P Well you can then ill join soon just gonna check out the public save i downloaded (hopefully without killing my computer) 19:27:47 <V453000> :))) 19:27:51 <V453000> sure 19:29:42 *** greenlion has joined #openttdcoop 19:33:14 <KenjiE20> V453000: what's your bandwidth like? 19:33:21 <V453000> bandwho? 19:33:29 <KenjiE20> your upload 19:33:41 <V453000> I dont know, barely any on this wifi 19:33:52 <KenjiE20> ah, nvm then 19:34:15 <KenjiE20> just a random thought about livestream :p 19:34:24 <V453000> ? :D 19:34:39 <KenjiE20> @lmgtfy livestream 19:34:39 <Webster> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=livestream 19:34:41 <KenjiE20> :p 19:34:43 <V453000> at home I have good connection, but wtf :o 19:34:47 <V453000> I know what livestream is 19:35:05 <MrMouthy> Pub game looks great, would be good to watch as it's being made, time for a computer upgrade i think :P 19:35:12 <V453000> :) 19:35:26 <KenjiE20> just thinking for people like Mouthy, when someone's on, for watchers 19:35:53 <KenjiE20> just thinking out loud really 19:36:03 <V453000> hmm 19:37:04 <MrMouthy> Lol I'm not too bothered, welcome stable can have its good moments when decent people are playing 19:38:02 <V453000> he 19:38:10 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 19:38:17 <KenjiE20> it's a sily idea anyway 19:38:45 <KenjiE20> the net & cpu req of livestream + #openttdcoop would likely cripple everything 19:40:10 <V453000> yea 19:44:58 *** Test has joined #openttdcoop 19:45:08 <Test> !download win32 19:45:08 <PublicServer> Test: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21762/openttd-trunk-r21762-windows-win32.zip 19:45:36 <XeryusTC> KenjiE20: haha, some mates and me were talking about shoutcasting ottd matches yesterday 19:45:37 <KenjiE20> that's an ambiguous nick 19:45:41 <XeryusTC> but decided that it would be quite lame 19:45:45 <KenjiE20> lol 19:45:57 <Test> Me? 19:46:12 <XeryusTC> although, on stuff like luukland's servers it could be quite fun :) 19:46:12 <KenjiE20> I was pondering an OpenTTD Let's Play.. but no one wants to see me bumble around a map :p 19:46:19 <KenjiE20> Test: yes 19:46:32 <V453000> yey, Xeryus :) YARR! :P 19:46:55 <XeryusTC> yarr ye lassie 19:47:27 <Test> oh. I'm trying to play some other game with a friend, but it doesn't work, will try and check if it's specific to the game or something more general 19:48:13 *** Mitcian has quit IRC 19:48:53 <KenjiE20> actually, I'm kinda suprised you got the that nick in the first place.. instinct tells me you should be like test124223 19:49:48 <Test> Well, I swear I didn't do anything spooky. Clicked the IRC link on openttdcoop.org, the client showed, asking for a nickname 19:49:55 *** perk11 has quit IRC 19:52:41 *** scrlk has joined #openttdcoop 19:53:08 <scrlk> !password 19:53:08 <PublicServer> scrlk: chiefs 19:53:20 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:53:22 <PublicServer> *** scrlk joined the game 19:58:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002986B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002986B.png 20:06:21 *** greenlion has quit IRC 20:07:44 <scrlk> hi anyone here? 20:07:54 <scrlk> could someone join the server please? 20:10:17 *** scrlk has quit IRC 20:10:21 <PublicServer> *** scrlk has left the game (leaving) 20:13:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00026A26: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00026A26.png 20:30:57 *** scrlk has joined #openttdcoop 20:31:57 <scrlk> !password 20:31:57 <PublicServer> scrlk: junkie 20:32:30 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 20:32:30 <PublicServer> *** scrlk joined the game 20:40:00 <scrlk> anyone here? 20:42:34 <PublicServer> *** scrlk has left the game (connection lost) 20:42:38 *** scrlk has quit IRC 20:43:18 *** greenlion has joined #openttdcoop 20:43:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002B445: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002B445.png 20:46:28 <Test> is it possible to disable breakdowns midgame? 20:47:40 <V453000> !rcon set vehicle_breakdowns 20:47:40 <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'vehicle_breakdowns' is: '0' (min: 0, max: 2) 20:47:44 <V453000> it is :p 20:47:51 <hylje> over nine thousand 20:49:17 <Test> oh, I meant in your own server =) 20:51:14 <V453000> sure 20:51:19 <V453000> the same way :p 20:51:29 <KenjiE20> only without the bang 21:03:52 *** Hippidy has quit IRC 21:14:58 *** Hippidy has joined #openttdcoop 21:16:18 *** Ilmor has joined #openttdcoop 21:16:46 <Ilmor> !download 21:16:46 <PublicServer> Ilmor: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 21:16:46 <PublicServer> Ilmor: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r21762 21:19:43 <Ilmor> !help 21:19:43 <PublicServer> Ilmor: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 21:20:02 <Ilmor> !password 21:20:02 <PublicServer> Ilmor: junkie 21:20:15 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:20:17 <PublicServer> *** Ilmor joined the game 21:31:00 *** als has joined #openttdcoop 21:31:36 <PublicServer> *** Ilmor has left the game (leaving) 21:32:15 <als> !dl win64 21:32:15 <PublicServer> als: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21762/openttd-trunk-r21762-windows-win64.zip 21:35:05 *** Ilmor has left #openttdcoop 21:38:30 <als> !password 21:38:30 <PublicServer> als: beeper 21:38:38 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:38:40 <PublicServer> *** als joined the game 21:41:30 <PublicServer> *** als has left the game (leaving) 21:41:32 *** als has quit IRC 21:56:23 *** greenlion has quit IRC 22:00:52 *** greenlion has joined #openttdcoop 22:08:47 *** Hippidy has quit IRC 22:22:52 *** Hippidy has joined #openttdcoop 22:33:51 *** greenlion has quit IRC 22:37:47 *** greenlion has joined #openttdcoop 23:13:22 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:14:21 *** hylje has quit IRC 23:23:42 *** Test has quit IRC 23:41:39 *** MrMouthy has left #openttdcoop 23:41:45 *** MrMouthy has quit IRC 23:43:37 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 23:47:29 *** Chillosophy has quit IRC 23:58:04 *** Intexon has quit IRC