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Log for #openttdcoop on 21st January 2011:
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00:37:52  <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost)
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00:44:13  <ingern> !download win32
00:44:13  <PublicServer> ingern: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21825/openttd-trunk-r21825-windows-win32.zip
00:45:35  <ingern> !help
00:45:35  <PublicServer> ingern: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
00:45:42  <ingern> @quickstart
00:45:44  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
00:54:06  <ingern> !password
00:54:07  <PublicServer> ingern: gummed
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00:59:07  <Sylf> !password
00:59:07  <PublicServer> Sylf: gummed
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00:59:28  <PublicServer> <Sylf> ello
01:00:20  <V453000> hi
01:00:43  <V453000> !password
01:00:43  <PublicServer> V453000: gummed
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01:01:08  <PublicServer> <Sylf> Looks like the game progress has slowed down
01:01:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> still fine >]
01:01:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
01:05:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> we should bring the Sbahn styled SRNW to work
01:05:19  <Webster> Latest update from blog: Advanced Building Revue 09: Self Regulating Stations <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/01/21/advanced-building-revue-09-self-regulating-stations/>
01:05:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh, by the way :p
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01:06:02  <PublicServer> <Sylf> hrm...  I should go read at least for a bit
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01:06:25  <V453000> mww
01:06:27  <V453000> !password
01:06:27  <PublicServer> V453000: gummed
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01:08:21  <PublicServer> <Sylf> OK, yeah, that SBahn style
01:09:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> first problem I see there is that we have no overflow at all
01:09:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> I would start there
01:09:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> because then we could get some freely fluctuable amount of trains we could work with
01:10:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> there was an idea form someone to make trains go in opposite direction ... I think that might help here, but it is just too situational imo
01:10:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> because it "just" doubles the srnw, but doesnt improve it anyhow
01:10:57  <Mazur> Thanks for the reference.
01:11:04  <Mazur> :-)
01:11:11  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
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01:11:24  * Mazur has once more been immortalised a little.
01:11:35  <V453000> I dared to also name it properly :p
01:12:02  <V453000> yes and if we dont come up with some nice solutions for 05, you will be mortalised :D :P
01:12:19  <V453000> !password
01:12:19  <PublicServer> V453000: grafts
01:12:27  <Mazur> 05 was....  Oh yes, the SRNW.
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01:12:51  <Mazur> You killed me once already, I'm ghosting as it is.
01:13:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> can do it again :p
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01:18:59  <PublicServer> <Mazur> What about 05 is troubling you?
01:21:36  <V453000> I hate this wifi
01:21:42  <V453000> Mazur: the Sbahnish thing being damn uneffective?
01:21:52  <V453000> it just works poorly
01:21:59  <V453000> just some ring with stations ... no overflow or anything
01:22:06  <V453000> we need to come up with something
01:22:10  <V453000> I might have even something special
01:22:16  <V453000> !password
01:22:16  <PublicServer> V453000: grafts
01:22:35  <V453000> !password
01:22:35  <PublicServer> V453000: calves
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01:23:18  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
01:23:24  <V453000> hmff
01:23:27  <V453000> I will do it tomorrow
01:23:40  <V453000> good night :)
01:24:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ideally you'd want to release an empty steel train to arrive just as the ore train starts unloading.
01:24:29  <V453000> ?
01:24:51  <Mazur> You;ve got an ore train coming in, and a steel train waiting.
01:25:02  <V453000> at drop
01:25:07  <Mazur> Yep.
01:25:15  <V453000> how is drop related to the Sbahn SRNW
01:25:24  <Mazur> Oh, Sbahn.
01:25:37  <Mazur> Sorry, was being obtuse.
01:26:06  <SmatZ> good night V453000
01:26:13  <V453000> gnight :P
01:26:19  <SmatZ> V453000: btw, I was in Liberec on Tuesday :)
01:26:28  <Mazur> Sleep well, V.
01:26:29  <V453000> oh :) you no tell :P
01:26:29  <SmatZ> sorry, I didn't have much time to let you know...
01:26:35  <V453000> is ok :)
01:26:39  <SmatZ> it's just 1 hour from my house :)
01:26:47  <SmatZ> I didn't expect I can get there so quick
01:26:50  <V453000> :)
01:26:57  <V453000> 45 minutes from black bridge
01:27:06  <SmatZ> indeed :)
01:27:06  <V453000> to my house
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01:27:23  <Sylf> !password
01:27:23  <PublicServer> Sylf: calves
01:27:36  <V453000> either way, I spent another day by wrigin an article so my eyes are kind of punished ... good night :) need sleep
01:27:38  * SmatZ is looking forward for the next OpenTTD party :)
01:27:44  <V453000> eeeyy
01:27:46  <SmatZ> have a good night V453000
01:28:26  <Sylf> hrmrm
01:30:19  <Sylf> !playercount
01:30:19  <PublicServer> Sylf: Number of players: 2 (0 spectators)
01:33:30  <Mazur> Network unresponsive.
01:34:30  <Mazur> Nothing beyond Haydn.
01:35:08  <Sylf> bummer
01:35:14  <Mazur> Unless I trace ps instead of pr.
01:35:35  <Mazur> Nevertheless, my client gets zip.
01:36:15  <Sylf> yup... something happened somewhere
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07:12:50  <Vinnie> !players
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08:23:46  <Webster> Latest update from openttd: OpenTTD 1.1.0-beta4 <http://www.openttd.org/en/news/140>
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09:05:17  <ppetak> !players
09:05:57  <ppetak> ??
09:06:00  <V453000> hi
09:06:03  <ppetak> !password
09:06:03  <PublicServer> ppetak: rouses
09:06:07  <ppetak> hi
09:07:12  <ppetak> server is offline? Or different IP?
09:07:40  <V453000> !url
09:07:40  <PublicServer> V453000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org
09:07:42  <V453000> !info
09:07:54  <V453000> hmm
09:07:58  <V453000> !ip
09:07:58  <PublicServer> V453000: ps.openttdcoop.org
09:08:27  <V453000> seems like gone :o
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09:08:41  <ppetak> :)
09:08:51  <ppetak> I have to go to office anyway :)
09:08:56  <V453000> cya :)
09:09:28  <ppetak> Later then. BTW, would like to hear some comments to 01 from you, for the next time to build rigt :)
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09:09:40  <kriokamera> !playercount
09:09:40  <PublicServer> kriokamera: Number of players: 2 (0 spectators)
09:09:49  <ppetak> bye
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09:10:04  <kriokamera> !password
09:10:04  <PublicServer> kriokamera: strums
09:10:40  <kriokamera> !players
09:11:25  <kriokamera> very strange
09:11:48  <kriokamera> does anyone hear me?
09:12:53  <V453000> yes
09:12:59  <V453000> server is sleeping
09:14:01  <kriokamera> oh
09:14:03  <kriokamera> okay
09:15:00  <V453000> @blog
09:15:01  <V453000> btw :p
09:15:04  <Webster> #openttdcoop - http://www.openttdcoop.org/blog/?s=
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09:20:27  <kriokamera> already reading =)
09:21:13  <kriokamera> what is absolute red?
09:21:44  <kriokamera> oh
09:24:56  <kriokamera> i see how can it be used in actual game
09:25:25  <V453000> it should be all described there
09:25:36  <V453000> savegame adds a lot of info btw
09:26:15  <kriokamera> great. i see a some time regulation. very great
09:29:47  <kriokamera> don't the abs-green differs from abs-red just a one more  not-game at entrancee?
09:30:32  <V453000> ?
09:30:47  <V453000> see the savegame and chaining of conditions
09:30:54  <V453000> then try to make it with not gates
09:30:55  <planetmaker> !save
09:30:55  <PublicServer> Saving game...
09:30:59  <kriokamera> i see
09:31:09  <planetmaker> !rcon save delete_me
09:31:17  <kriokamera> if you get red->abs-red
09:31:20  <V453000> the absolute red is described there too
09:31:28  <kriokamera> and add a not-gate on entrance
09:31:28  <planetmaker> !rcon set min_active_clients
09:31:30  <PublicServer> planetmaker: say "<kriokamera> and add a not-gate on entrance"
09:31:42  <planetmaker> !rcon set min_active_clients
09:31:45  <V453000> kriokamera: that would just not do anything
09:31:49  <V453000> only a normal green
09:32:14  <V453000> because, the absolute red is made by a TRAIN being in the signal block, therefore shutting down any other green anywhere around
09:32:18  <PublicServer> Saving game...
09:32:22  <kriokamera> okay. and add a not-gate on output?
09:32:24  <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin
09:32:24  <PublicServer> Saving game...
09:32:34  <V453000> no, there is no not gate availble here
09:32:41  <kriokamera> hm
09:32:42  <V453000> that is why there are the these special gates
09:32:44  <V453000> ...
09:32:50  <V453000> please see the savegame.
09:33:43  <kriokamera> i'm sitting now with open savegame. i'll now build something i got in mind and let you see.
09:33:48  <planetmaker> hm, anyone on the server?
09:34:09  <planetmaker> I'll just kill it... and I hope no-one built anything since 2:25
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09:34:20  <V453000> yea
09:34:50  <V453000> kriokamera: it might be possible through dual NOT gate, but I find it nicely methodical and making more sense to use the condition chains
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09:35:57  <V453000> maybe, it wouldnt actually be possible with the bay checker
09:36:07  <V453000> because there are 2 ways how to get to the "finish"
09:36:16  <V453000> which I cant imagine atm how would it be done with NOTs
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09:36:18  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
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09:36:18  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG200 (r21825) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | English only"
09:36:22  <V453000> that would need some chaining again
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09:36:43  <planetmaker> ... ?
09:36:50  <planetmaker> hm...
09:37:06  <V453000> :o
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09:38:01  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG200 (r21825) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | English only"
09:38:09  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000E35E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000E35E.png
09:38:19  <planetmaker> hm. helps to load an actual file ;-)
09:38:23  <planetmaker> anyone can check?
09:38:41  <V453000> works
09:38:44  <V453000> !password
09:38:44  <PublicServer> V453000: zebras
09:38:54  <V453000> we thank you pm :p
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09:38:57  <planetmaker> it somehow was trapped in an infinite loop
09:39:04  <planetmaker> why ever, using 100% CPU...
09:39:08  <V453000> :o
09:39:16  <V453000> nice
09:39:19  <planetmaker> yeah :S
09:39:54  <V453000> might have gotten confused from the new blog :)))
09:40:41  <planetmaker> looks interesting, I should have a read sometime. Not now though.
09:40:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> :P
09:41:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think it is a great success, but it still is just a start to more successes :) so you will see the stuff later anyay :P
09:45:54  <kriokamera> O_O. i've copied your gate exactly, but it working  wrong
09:48:06  <planetmaker> V453000, whatever SRNW gives, I'll still prefer old-school traditional networks ;-)
09:48:27  <V453000> I am indifferent :)
09:49:02  <V453000> everything is nice and srnw NEEDS to be at the stage where you are inventing something, otherwise it is just monkey work and it gets boring over time, which normal games dont :)
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09:50:42  <V453000> so I basically agree :) I only add the point when srnw could be fun :P
09:51:04  <ppetak> hi
09:51:17  <kriokamera> oh fck
09:51:23  <kriokamera> fckin rails
09:51:27  <ppetak> !players
09:51:27  <kriokamera> i hate it
09:51:30  <PublicServer> ppetak: Client 3 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (psg200)
09:51:31  <kriokamera> hi ppetak
09:51:45  <V453000> :D hate? :)
09:51:46  <ppetak> why hating rails?
09:52:53  <kriokamera> can't descrbe with my english
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09:53:17  <ppetak> :)
09:53:25  <kriokamera> some little unused piece of sh... rails made me stupid for a ten minutes
09:53:29  <V453000> these fucking fucker rails just fucked up your brilliant construction? :) common feeling :P
09:53:42  <ppetak> hehehe
09:53:43  <V453000> oh :)
09:53:45  <V453000> you mean those
09:53:54  <V453000> yes, these are important :)
09:54:22  <kriokamera> where can i upload my save?
09:54:51  <V453000> anywhere on the web?
09:54:53  <ppetak> V, what about stations on 01, can we talk about them?
09:55:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure we can
09:55:03  <kriokamera> i know some russian sites on russian =)
09:55:22  <kriokamera> google saves.
09:55:45  <ppetak> well, what was the main problem? I thought that building stations and industry after them is common practice ..
09:55:51  <kriokamera> http://www.2shared.com/file/IYWqi-YH/save987w3y4.html
09:55:52  <Webster> Title: 2shared - download save987w3y4.sav (at www.2shared.com)
09:56:10  <kriokamera> this is my save for V. i built some construction a little upper
09:56:25  <V453000> ppetak: that totally isnt
09:56:27  <kriokamera> and it seems to be the green->abs red
09:56:48  <V453000> ppetak: additionally, there is no SLH
09:56:52  <V453000> which is the majormost problem
09:57:00  <ppetak> well, It was made several times in this game ..
09:57:12  <ppetak> Ok, understand, will wait for industries next time.
09:57:38  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
09:58:01  <ppetak> And SLH - I made only join, because steel is on one side so trains will never go to other side ..
09:58:29  <V453000> yes
09:58:35  <V453000> but what about if there is a farm
09:58:36  <V453000> or whatever
09:58:54  <V453000> ALWAYS make a full SLH unless it is something like a town drop line where you are totally sure there is no primary drop
09:59:10  <ppetak> OK, understand.
09:59:20  <V453000> kriokamera: that is just inverted red-red gate to green-red
09:59:28  <kriokamera> yes
09:59:38  <V453000> and when you look at my green-red, it is basically the same
09:59:40  <V453000> so wtf :D
10:00:31  <kriokamera> result is the same, construcion is different =)
10:00:43  <kriokamera> so that's all
10:00:46  <V453000> well
10:00:53  <V453000> thats just using the original gate so it is the same
10:01:13  <V453000> only inverting it
10:01:17  <kriokamera> yep
10:01:24  <V453000> yes, why
10:01:56  <Vinnie> !players
10:01:59  <PublicServer> Vinnie: There are currently no clients connected to the server
10:02:13  <V453000> the main idea of conditon chaining through the absolute red is untouched. The exact solution of gates does not really matter
10:02:14  <V453000> hi Vinnie
10:02:17  <V453000> !password
10:02:17  <PublicServer> V453000: zebras
10:02:25  <Vinnie> Hello V453000
10:02:47  <V453000> planetmaker: it got stuck in year 2666 btw :D
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10:03:14  <kriokamera> !password
10:03:14  <PublicServer> kriokamera: zebras
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10:17:13  <kriokamera> hey. does anyone here has htc-phone?
10:20:08  <ppetak> yes, me.
10:20:14  <ppetak> HTC legend
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10:49:17  <Atoompje> hi
10:49:19  <Atoompje> !players
10:49:22  <PublicServer> Atoompje: There are currently no clients connected to the server
10:49:26  <V453000> hi
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10:51:15  <Atoompje> i tried to make your TL splitter yesterday, but couldn succeed..
10:51:27  <Atoompje> @ V
10:53:09  <V453000> he
10:53:10  <V453000> how come
10:53:17  <V453000> btw it is in wrong position
10:53:26  <V453000> there is just a split between factory pickup and drop
10:53:35  <V453000> that can be done (and should be done) through orders
10:53:39  <V453000> no need for a TL split
10:53:54  <V453000> additionally, both pickup and drop can be 1-5 TL, not that goods should be 5 only :)
10:54:01  <V453000> that would kinda lose the point :)
10:54:50  <Atoompje> hmm
10:54:51  <Atoompje> :)
10:54:57  <Atoompje> true :P
10:56:28  <Atoompje> i liked the idea that every trains gets a platfrom of the correct size
10:56:45  <V453000> that is indeed correct
10:56:50  <V453000> but only for 1 station
10:56:54  <V453000> not to split between two :)
10:57:02  <V453000> OR first split between them, and then provide choice to both
10:58:33  <Atoompje> the TL5 platforms and the others are one station. so we should split it again in drop and pickup?
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11:00:17  <V453000> it is split
11:00:37  <V453000> there is a TL5 pickup, where could go also other TLs, and then there is the drop consisting of 3 kinds
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11:01:04  <V453000> -> the first TL splitter there is useless
11:01:27  <Atoompje> !password
11:01:27  <PublicServer> Atoompje: swings
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11:01:51  <kriokamera> ppetak: how much widgets do you have in HTC Hub?
11:01:59  <Atoompje> oh
11:02:12  <Atoompje> i thought i joined them 2 days ago
11:02:25  <Atoompje> and didn notice it yesterday..
11:02:35  <Atoompje> this doenst make sense indeed :)
11:02:39  <V453000> then you would be completely lacking the other station, if you would have had them joined
11:02:59  <V453000> which ... would demand some more space to get it there and I think this will do :) we can make there something more later imo
11:03:27  <Atoompje> i yeah
11:03:39  <Atoompje> just removing the splitter will do
11:04:01  <V453000> idd
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11:05:45  <V453000> !password
11:05:46  <PublicServer> V453000: swings
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11:06:45  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> besides that, why didn't the splitter work?
11:06:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk havent seen
11:07:06  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> ok
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11:10:16  <kriokamera> i've disconnected splitter's logics from line
11:10:25  <kriokamera> if you'll use it, connect it
11:10:37  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> we dont need the splitter anymore
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11:10:45  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> we'll split with orders..
11:10:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> we can just bring it operational at least
11:11:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> but true, we can make that somewhere elase
11:11:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> else
11:11:23  <kriokamera> just said
11:12:11  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> so just build it to test it?
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11:12:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> tes it at the island
11:12:33  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> that one works
11:12:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw guys, this is a normal island, primaries should have SLHs
11:12:56  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> but somehow we made a mistake while mirroring it
11:13:08  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> oh ok
11:13:53  <kriokamera> what type of mistake we made?
11:14:09  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> dont know:p
11:14:27  <kriokamera> ok, i though you found it
11:14:36  <kriokamera> !password
11:14:36  <PublicServer> kriokamera: looted
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11:15:01  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> i'll take a look at it this afternoon
11:15:08  <PublicServer> <Atoompje> got to do some work first :)
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11:16:09  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> what else can i do?
11:20:31  <kriokamera> !players
11:20:34  <PublicServer> kriokamera: Client 13 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (psg200)
11:20:34  <PublicServer> kriokamera: Client 15 (Orange) is kriokamera, in company 1 (psg200)
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11:20:54  <kriokamera> ah
11:20:57  <V453000> !password
11:20:57  <PublicServer> V453000: looted
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11:21:45  <kriokamera> V453000: jams anywhere?
11:22:01  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> or something undone?
11:22:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk but 03 and 01 need to start getting trains :)
11:22:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> so, SLHs
11:22:33  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> what undone with 03?
11:22:49  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> aha. SLH03-02?
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11:23:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> we need !one more
11:23:17  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> saw
11:23:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> possibly two
11:23:25  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> add a way?
11:23:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> wa?
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11:23:39  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> what one more?
11:23:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> SLH
11:24:01  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> add SLH on this mark?
11:24:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
11:24:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> 03-01 will need to be shrunk a bit
11:24:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> this end is just way out of place
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11:25:33  <V453000> !rcon set terraform_per_64k_frames = 10000
11:25:33  <PublicServer> V453000: you are not allowed to use !rcon
11:25:37  <V453000> @choami
11:25:42  <V453000> @whoami
11:25:42  <Webster> V453000: V453000
11:25:44  <V453000> @op
11:25:47  <V453000> !rcon set terraform_per_64k_frames = 10000
11:25:47  <PublicServer> V453000: you are not allowed to use !rcon
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11:25:52  <V453000> !rcon set terraform_per_64k_frames = 10000
11:25:52  <PublicServer> V453000: - Change setting for all clients. Usage: 'setting <name> [<value>]'
11:25:52  <PublicServer> V453000: - Omitting <value> will print out the current value of the setting.
11:25:59  <V453000> !rcon set terraform_per_64k_frames 10000
11:26:09  <V453000> !rcon set terraform_per_64k_frames 100000
11:26:20  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> why did you deleted these way near to tunnels?
11:26:32  <V453000> !rcon set terraform_frame_burst 2000
11:27:01  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> wow
11:27:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> for this
11:27:31  <V453000> !rcon set terraform_frame_burst 300
11:27:36  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> unbsinced a little
11:27:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> when it fails, fix it
11:31:29  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> why do we need a SLH here? where it should go?
11:31:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> just here :)
11:32:41  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> it will serve this steel mill?
11:32:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> wat?
11:32:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> see plan for steel mills
11:32:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> SLHs are for primaries
11:34:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> three words
11:34:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> fix when fails
11:34:43  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> trying
11:34:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, this didnt hep anything at all either
11:35:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> did it fail already?
11:35:11  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> okay
11:35:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is a SLH, probability for those 2 trains to meet might be small
11:35:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> so meh
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11:37:38  <ppetak> !password
11:37:38  <PublicServer> ppetak: canvas
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11:38:05  <PublicServer> <ppetak> huhu
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11:41:05  <V453000> !pasword
11:41:08  <V453000> !password
11:41:08  <PublicServer> V453000: papaya
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11:44:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> :(
11:45:12  <ppetak> !password
11:45:12  <PublicServer> ppetak: papaya
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11:45:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> \o/
11:45:32  <ppetak> connection lost ..
11:45:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> I know :)
11:47:23  <PublicServer> <ppetak> no primaries on 01 :/ what is needed and simple for build?
11:47:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> SLHs
11:48:04  <PublicServer> <ppetak> but where?
11:50:37  <PublicServer> <ppetak> I'm afraid I cannot estimate it well...
11:50:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> im afraid you have to try before saying
11:51:29  <PublicServer> <ppetak> well, but what if primaries will not be there at all?
11:51:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> there will
11:51:54  <PublicServer> <ppetak> :) OK, you are the experienced one, I believe you ..
11:52:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> well we can fund them if they dont come themselves :p
11:52:18  <PublicServer> <ppetak> grrr
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11:53:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw adding 4th direction to BBH01-01 was a big mistake
11:53:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> no hubs should ever be 4way
11:53:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> particularly in this situation, it would be much better to make that connection from hte coal/sawmill island
11:53:51  <PublicServer> <ppetak> I discussed it with someone from old players, and I was told so ..
11:54:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> remember who?
11:54:28  <PublicServer> <ppetak> no ..
11:55:11  <PublicServer> <ppetak> There was the long island, and terrain condition to make it here.
11:55:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, that is misleading
11:55:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> but network wise, we get a 4way BBH that cant be expanded from L_R
11:55:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> well it could, but ...
11:56:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> whereas if it lead !through here, it would just be a 3way
11:56:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> which would just split later to sawmill/coal drop like it does now
11:56:49  <PublicServer> <ppetak> agree.
11:57:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> the long island there was nice indeed, but I think having this 4way will be a problem
11:57:34  <PublicServer> <ppetak> or two T hubs, one for town drop as is, and second before bridges to coal/sawmil for factory and oil?
11:57:53  <PublicServer> <ppetak> is is network-wise?
11:57:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> on that hill? :)
11:58:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> that would make sense, but not fit the land :)
11:58:18  <PublicServer> <ppetak> everything is hilly here ;)
11:58:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> the !through here spot asks for it :)
11:58:26  <PublicServer> <ppetak> OK, understand.
11:58:58  <PublicServer> <ppetak> and make bridges to town.
11:59:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
11:59:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> and just lengthen the line firther towards the oil /long island, whre might be a farm or thatever
11:59:30  <PublicServer> <ppetak> OK, can be made, and BBh01 back to 3-way.
11:59:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
12:00:12  <PublicServer> <ppetak> I will try then :) In the evening, now I'm at work :)
12:00:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
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12:19:58  <PublicServer> <ppetak> oooh ... you bad boy!
12:20:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
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12:32:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> 16 works nicer once again :)
12:33:38  <PublicServer> <ppetak> owerflow is noce concept ..
12:33:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> it has a nice plan here
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12:37:55  <PublicServer> <ppetak> @@(gap 2)
12:37:55  <Webster> PublicServer: For Trainlength of 2: <= 8 needs 2, 9 - 12 needs 3, 13 - 16 needs 4.
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13:11:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> see? piece of cake :p
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13:25:16  <PublicServer> <ppetak> well, I have made some plan on new 01 hub near powerplant/sawmil. Can I have some comments to it?
13:26:06  <PublicServer> <ppetak> Its big, but terrain is not ideal, and with my experience :))
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13:26:53  <ppetak> !password
13:26:53  <PublicServer> ppetak: gobbed
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13:29:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is ok :)
13:29:57  <PublicServer> <ppetak> Iand, I made it only with 3x terraform :)
13:30:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> the long bridges will need something tho :)
13:30:17  <PublicServer> <ppetak> yes, its only for measuring where it goes ..
13:30:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> nah
13:30:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> that can be shifted to the bit of land
13:30:48  <PublicServer> <ppetak> shift a little after each segment of bridge, right?
13:30:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
13:31:02  <PublicServer> <ppetak> Ok, will make it so.
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13:31:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is helpful too :p
13:32:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> this helps :)
13:32:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> and keeps it sync
13:32:31  <PublicServer> <ppetak> oil will die, and then we can sync it on oil side
13:32:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is fine this way
13:33:37  <PublicServer> <ppetak> why the X is evil?
13:33:54  <PublicServer> <ppetak> like this one?
13:33:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> which one
13:34:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> who told you that
13:34:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> (definitely nobody good) :)
13:34:32  <PublicServer> <ppetak> someone cleared it on some other bridge exit
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13:35:16  <PublicServer> <ppetak> But with PBS like now, it must work good, isn't it?
13:35:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> both with or without
13:35:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> trains never me
13:35:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> meet at that spot
13:35:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is just like the bridges
13:35:59  <PublicServer> <ppetak> Yes, I think so. OK, every new piece of skill is appreciated, thanks :)
13:36:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> in fron of the bridges there is also a junction
13:36:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> :) yw
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13:39:28  <PublicServer> <ppetak> uff, my laptop is starting to lag ... too much trains.
13:39:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> just 1500 :)
13:44:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> guess the town drop has to die
13:45:10  <PublicServer> <ppetak> why this construction for TL1?
13:45:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> just to make them react a bit faster :)
13:45:59  <Sylf> !password
13:45:59  <PublicServer> Sylf: vinyls
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13:46:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :)
13:46:34  <PublicServer> <Sylf> ello
13:47:48  <PublicServer> <ppetak> hola
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13:54:18  <ppetak> !password
13:54:18  <PublicServer> ppetak: grieve
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13:54:41  <PublicServer> <Sylf> That's quite a town drop in progress
13:54:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> :P
13:54:55  <PublicServer> <Sylf> but meh... I'm off to work
14:05:14  <PublicServer> <ppetak> We need some place for city on goods drop :))
14:05:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> :P
14:05:36  <PublicServer> <ppetak> I'm heading home from work, so I will have to disconect in a few minutes ..
14:06:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok :)
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14:17:19  <ppetak> well, I'm leaving, bye ..
14:17:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
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16:08:45  <scrlk> !password
16:08:45  <PublicServer> scrlk: deject
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16:12:20  <V453000> umm
16:12:28  <V453000> did you just quit the IRC after you join the game?
16:13:46  <PublicServer> <scrlk> accident
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16:14:20  <PublicServer> <scrlk> mind if you could join the game v?
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16:16:33  <PublicServer> <scrlk> do you think island 10 needs some work?
16:16:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> probably a lot of it
16:16:55  <PublicServer> <scrlk> mind helping me?
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16:17:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will rather do some other stuff
16:17:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok :)
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16:18:40  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yey!
16:18:45  <scrlk> :/
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16:23:17  <PublicServer> <scrlk> bad connection eh?
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16:23:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> guss
16:23:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> guess
16:29:03  <PublicServer> <scrlk> do you need seprate stations for iron ore and steel?
16:29:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> of course
16:29:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> can you help me with this one, its in a tight space
16:29:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> where
16:30:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> island 10
16:30:07  <PublicServer> <scrlk> steel
16:30:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is no steel mill yet
16:30:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> there is
16:30:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> the first one is invalid
16:30:24  <PublicServer> <scrlk> how come>
16:30:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> see the plan
16:30:36  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
16:30:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> but well
16:30:48  <PublicServer> <scrlk> theres the oil the way
16:30:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> screw it
16:30:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> the plan makes no sense anyway
16:31:00  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
16:31:02  <PublicServer> <scrlk> +1
16:31:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> just keep it there and add the pickup
16:31:12  <PublicServer> <scrlk> the wording is confusing imo
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16:32:23  <PublicServer> <scrlk> nice
16:32:42  <PublicServer> <scrlk> about the goods, how will we ship em out?
16:32:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> to the central drop area
16:33:02  <PublicServer> <scrlk> right
16:33:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> along with coal probably
16:33:14  <PublicServer> <scrlk> which town should the goods go to?
16:33:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> a new one
16:33:33  <PublicServer> <scrlk> we cant 'build' towns can we?
16:34:04  <PublicServer> <scrlk> silly qu i know
16:35:57  <PublicServer> <scrlk> thats a excellent station!
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16:36:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> aww
16:36:35  <V453000> !password
16:36:35  <PublicServer> V453000: deject
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16:37:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> what the fuck are you terraforming
16:37:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> seriously
16:37:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> what the fuck
16:38:04  <PublicServer> <scrlk> dunno
16:38:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> then dont
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16:38:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> or do know
16:38:19  <PublicServer> <scrlk> btw what should the plan look like?
16:38:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> k lets redo
16:38:39  <PublicServer> <scrlk> rail?
16:40:15  <PublicServer> <scrlk> so how do we get a town by town drop then?
16:40:40  <PublicServer> <scrlk> we cantspawn one can we?
16:40:41  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
16:41:01  <V453000> !rcon set found_town 0
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16:41:38  <PublicServer> <scrlk> bloody oil refeniry in the way!
16:41:56  <PublicServer> <scrlk> if you can spawn a town, can you delete an ind
16:42:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
16:42:20  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
16:42:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> brb
16:42:34  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 20 mins
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16:54:45  <PublicServer> <scrlk> back
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17:03:16  <ppetak> !playercount
17:03:16  <PublicServer> ppetak: Number of players: 1 (1 spectators)
17:03:38  <scrlk> want me to join ppetak?
17:03:47  <scrlk> !password
17:03:47  <PublicServer> scrlk: towing
17:04:06  <ppetak> yes, I want to continue building on 01
17:04:17  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
17:04:17  <scrlk> done
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17:04:21  <ppetak> I got lesson from V today :)
17:04:24  <scrlk> lol
17:04:30  <scrlk> was it a harsh one?
17:04:45  <ppetak> no, rather explaining.
17:04:48  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
17:05:14  <PublicServer> <scrlk> you going to  join then?
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17:16:11  <PublicServer> <scrlk> oops
17:16:25  <PublicServer> <ppetak> oooo, another bad boy :)
17:16:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> bloody towns
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17:31:39  <V453000> !password
17:31:39  <PublicServer> V453000: presto
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17:32:01  <PublicServer> <scrlk> hi v!
17:32:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> elo
17:32:24  <PublicServer> <scrlk> on island 10 the oil refinery needs to die :/
17:32:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
17:32:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
17:32:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
17:33:04  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ???
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17:33:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> you place an eyecandy airport so that we cant make drop? :D
17:33:07  * XeryusTC laughs along with V
17:33:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
17:33:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats amazing :D
17:33:16  <PublicServer> <scrlk> fu :D
17:33:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: yarrrr
17:33:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> srsly
17:33:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> you CAN make space somewhere else than where the refinery is
17:33:46  <PublicServer> <scrlk> any way its not in thr right place
17:33:54  <PublicServer> <scrlk> to accept goofs
17:33:56  <PublicServer> <scrlk> goods
17:34:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> how is this
17:34:22  <PublicServer> <scrlk> needs a new station
17:34:25  <PublicServer> <scrlk> name
17:34:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> ..
17:34:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> ..
17:34:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> ..
17:34:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> name could be changed as you well know
17:34:46  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ???
17:34:55  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i know but in anal about these kind of things
17:35:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> what?
17:35:10  <PublicServer> <scrlk> you will never now
17:35:12  <PublicServer> <scrlk> know
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17:36:52  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok time for goods van?
17:36:56  <kriokamera> !playercount
17:36:56  <PublicServer> kriokamera: Number of players: 3 (0 spectators)
17:37:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> why not pretty much
17:37:38  <kriokamera> !password
17:37:38  <PublicServer> kriokamera: presto
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17:37:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi krio
17:37:57  <PublicServer> <scrlk> high capacity or high speed?
17:38:02  <PublicServer> <ppetak> hola
17:38:03  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> hi
17:38:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> hi
17:38:08  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> where are you?
17:38:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> the same as others are
17:38:14  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
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17:38:28  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> and where are the others?
17:38:34  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> the same as you?
17:38:36  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> =)
17:38:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> was talking to scrlk
17:38:54  <PublicServer> <scrlk> orly
17:39:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok, again. The RVs should be of the same kind as the others are
17:39:33  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well they are vixen
17:39:39  <PublicServer> <scrlk> but the vixen does not do goods
17:40:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> can you try to find some that is as fast as them??
17:40:04  <PublicServer> <scrlk> got it
17:40:10  <PublicServer> <scrlk> eldin verso special
17:40:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> there you go
17:40:48  <PublicServer> <scrlk> cant be arsed to spawn em though
17:41:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmf?
17:41:48  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> oh guys. where are you all?
17:41:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> 10
17:41:57  <PublicServer> <scrlk> we need a factory station 1st
17:42:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
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17:42:14  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok if the factory is spewing out
17:42:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 355 goods
17:42:25  <PublicServer> <scrlk> about 5 should do?
17:42:29  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> haha, nice island =)
17:42:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> tbh v
17:42:41  <PublicServer> <scrlk> we could modify the drop
17:42:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> build and see?
17:42:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> drop is retarded but separate the stations
17:42:59  <PublicServer> <scrlk> that?
17:43:29  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i think thats the best way
17:43:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> that ... things you expect are true or not?
17:43:34  <PublicServer> <scrlk> easy and simple
17:44:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think that is one of the worst but lets keep it for now
17:44:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well it is simple in that it does not require extra work
17:44:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> separate stations doesnt mean only 2 stations, but 2 separate complexes
17:44:37  <PublicServer> <scrlk> no space
17:44:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> rly?
17:45:00  <PublicServer> <scrlk> its a low traffic rv island
17:45:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw this is a game, if you consider something being "work", then you probably arent having fun
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17:45:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> and please use unload and leave empty orders
17:45:42  <PublicServer> <scrlk> simples
17:45:48  <PublicServer> <scrlk> k
17:46:08  <PublicServer> <scrlk> is the 3 way jct ok?
17:46:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> doesnt make much sense but it works so far
17:46:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> so yes
17:46:56  <PublicServer> <scrlk> what do you mean 'makes no sense'?
17:47:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> for example this road
17:47:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> why is that there
17:47:40  <PublicServer> <scrlk> humm
17:47:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> exactly
17:47:52  <PublicServer> <scrlk> beauty?
17:48:03  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i just rebuilt the orginao
17:48:06  <PublicServer> <scrlk> orginal
17:48:20  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> eyecandy i think =)
17:48:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> that doesnt make you any less responsible for what you build
17:48:33  <PublicServer> <scrlk> sigh
17:48:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> sorry but eyecandy connection makes no sense at all
17:48:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well it works, im fine with it
17:48:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> you asked about the junction, not me
17:49:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am answering
17:49:30  <PublicServer> <scrlk> it could be a slip road?
17:49:36  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> but on the other side is the splitting two streams
17:49:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> slip?
17:49:42  <PublicServer> <scrlk> british term
17:49:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> kriokamera: yes, the other side has some reason
17:49:51  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> merging*, not splitting
17:50:09  <PublicServer> <scrlk> is this the jct?
17:50:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, then british terms dont help me much understanding probably :)
17:50:21  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well on a jct
17:50:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> a slip road is the little speed build up lane before merging in to a motorway
17:50:53  <PublicServer> <scrlk> hard to describe
17:50:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see now, thanks
17:51:09  <PublicServer> <scrlk> google it
17:51:11  <PublicServer> <scrlk> :P
17:51:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> (ridiculous because it isnt possible in openttd)
17:51:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i know but still
17:51:20  <PublicServer> <scrlk> it looks good
17:51:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> still what
17:51:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> braindead things dont look good to me
17:51:34  <PublicServer> <scrlk> better than a roundabout :P
17:51:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> but meh
17:51:53  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ive got an idea!
17:52:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wonder if I want to see it
17:52:15  <PublicServer> <scrlk> its a grade seperated roundabout
17:52:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> very common jct
17:52:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> jesus christ, what?
17:52:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> http://www.cbrd.co.uk/interchanges/roundabout.shtml
17:52:48  <Webster> Title: CBRD  Interchanges  Roundabout (at www.cbrd.co.uk)
17:53:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see
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17:53:27  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i could have built a trumpet there tbg
17:53:27  <PublicServer> <scrlk> tbh
17:53:33  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i just want to replace it
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17:57:59  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok opinions?
17:58:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> none
17:58:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> srsly
17:58:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> were you tryint to replicate the real junction scheme or are you using brain ?
17:59:08  <PublicServer> <scrlk> just experimenting
17:59:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> drawing roads
17:59:24  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well im inspired by the classic interchange
18:00:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> I imagined something like !this
18:00:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> (that makes sense at least)
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18:00:26  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok then
18:01:35  <XeryusTC> yo V453000
18:01:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw the original was still better
18:01:46  <V453000> yarr XeryusTC :) come join
18:01:51  <XeryusTC> !password
18:01:51  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: anuses
18:01:54  <V453000> :D
18:01:58  <XeryusTC> working on it xD
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18:02:00  <benom> underlig
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18:02:12  <benom> mt o.O
18:03:01  <PublicServer> <scrlk> no?
18:03:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> my pc has a hard time dealing with stuff :s
18:03:09  <PublicServer> <scrlk> this game this laggy
18:03:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is getting heavy :)
18:03:20  <XeryusTC> !pause
18:03:20  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: you must be channel op to use !pause
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18:03:28  <Webster> The third coop bot
18:03:32  <XeryusTC> !pause
18:03:32  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has paused the server.
18:03:33  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
18:03:41  <PublicServer> <scrlk> :/
18:03:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> scrlk: terraform one more tile and you are out
18:04:05  <XeryusTC> !auto
18:04:05  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has enabled autopause mode.
18:04:06  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i was reparing my other jct tf
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18:04:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
18:04:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> you only made it even more obvious that it was TFed
18:04:44  <PublicServer> <scrlk> shall i reverse>
18:05:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> can I ask what are you doing at the moment?
18:06:10  <PublicServer> <scrlk> again reparing what the other destructive jct did
18:06:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> by the way the southern tunnel in the junction is just a join before split
18:06:30  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ie. i pushed the tunnel head back
18:06:56  <PublicServer> <scrlk> this is why the first one worked.
18:07:01  <PublicServer> <scrlk> the one before the roundabout
18:07:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> you replaced it not me
18:07:22  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well you said it looked off
18:07:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> odd
18:07:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> I said the one road didnt make sense
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18:09:48  <PublicServer> <scrlk> fucj
18:09:50  <PublicServer> <scrlk> fuck
18:09:51  <V453000> !players
18:09:53  <PublicServer> V453000: Client 50 (Orange) is scrlk, in company 1 (psg200)
18:09:53  <PublicServer> V453000: Client 56 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (psg200)
18:09:53  <PublicServer> V453000: Client 54 (Orange) is ppetak, in company 1 (psg200)
18:09:53  <PublicServer> V453000: Client 58 (Orange) is kriokamera, in company 1 (psg200)
18:09:56  <V453000> !rcon kick 50
18:09:56  <PublicServer> V453000: ‎*** scrlk has left the game (kicked by server)
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18:09:58  <V453000> you know why
18:10:05  <scrlk> !password
18:10:05  <PublicServer> scrlk: bluffs
18:10:18  <scrlk> ffs is was a mistake
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18:10:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
18:10:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> it wasnt
18:10:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> making the tunnels there is the IDEA of terraforming
18:11:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> should I say it again or .. ?
18:11:49  <PublicServer> <scrlk> you can fix the mess im not going to touch ot
18:11:51  <PublicServer> <scrlk> it
18:11:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> good
18:12:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is the best way to learn
18:12:32  <PublicServer> <scrlk> what sitting there with your thumb up your arse>
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18:13:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> I would prefer to do other things than look at your constructions, trying to tell you what is wrong
18:13:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw
18:14:02  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well you dont have to
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18:14:23  <Vinnie> !password
18:14:23  <PublicServer> Vinnie: bluffs
18:14:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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18:14:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hello
18:14:42  <PublicServer> <ppetak> hola
18:14:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Vinder.
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18:15:29  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well v you happy now>?
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18:16:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
18:16:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is the useless road, there are tunnels which needed needless terraforming, answer yourself
18:16:50  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> where is the work?
18:16:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> 10
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18:18:02  <PublicServer> <ppetak> bleee
18:18:04  <PublicServer> <ppetak> :))
18:18:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> increases signal gap
18:18:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> but let me reconsider
18:18:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, it would make sense
18:18:33  <PublicServer> <ppetak> I'm trying to find a way how to connect the loose edn
18:18:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> which one
18:18:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is just for future LL_RR
18:18:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont bother now
18:19:03  <PublicServer> <ppetak> Ah ..
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18:21:11  <PublicServer> <scrlk> he he he
18:21:33  <PublicServer> <ppetak> I made one or two repairs there after tests with trains, seems that it isw orking well :)
18:21:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok :)
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18:22:39  <V453000> !password
18:22:39  <PublicServer> V453000: bluffs
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18:23:07  <PublicServer> <scrlk> v what do you think of my improvements?
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18:23:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> what do you think?
18:23:52  <PublicServer> <scrlk> looks more pretty
18:23:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> you TFed even more, to make it sure, and the bridges have some reason or now?
18:24:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> or not?
18:24:11  <PublicServer> <scrlk> what have i tfed>
18:24:15  <PublicServer> <scrlk> what have i tfed?
18:24:17  <PublicServer> <scrlk> prove it
18:24:24  <PublicServer> <ppetak> I think we need diagonal roads for this ;)
18:24:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> even more of the hill to the factories, plus a hole to the tunnels?
18:24:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> I have logs btw I can prove you whatever I want
18:24:40  <PublicServer> <scrlk> umm no
18:24:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> its the orginal junction
18:24:53  <PublicServer> <scrlk> just with bridges?
18:25:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, the original I kicked you for because you continued to terraform without any reason
18:25:46  <PublicServer> <scrlk> you do know that the tools are quite fiddly on a touchpad?
18:26:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> terraforming is something that is welcome to use, even in large scale, but it needs to have a reason and what I am trying to achieve is to make you able to think how to do it with as low tf as possible
18:26:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> tools are nothing that influenced your building here
18:26:38  <PublicServer> <scrlk> if i had a mouse i would have not made that large scale flattening
18:26:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> it wasnt needed to flatten there at all
18:26:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is the problem
18:27:06  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ffs more industries popping up :/
18:27:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> and since I told you already about 30 times, I am starting to have enough
18:27:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am used to telling people once or twice
18:27:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> or not at all
18:28:17  <PublicServer> <scrlk> humm
18:28:25  <PublicServer> <scrlk> no goods from the factory
18:28:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> out of coverage
18:28:55  <PublicServer> <scrlk> fixed
18:29:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> you gotta be doing this on purpose
18:29:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> this isnt normal
18:29:52  <PublicServer> <scrlk> what?
18:29:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> I tell you to stop terraforming and you replace bridge with tunnel
18:30:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> or is it someone else?
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18:30:59  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i am tempted to fund another farm on 10
18:31:09  <PublicServer> <scrlk> as the current one is just lacking
18:32:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> when you could choose the position, please build it  rather far from junctions
18:32:42  <PublicServer> <scrlk> permission to fund a new farm on 10?
18:33:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> well meh, lets hope it wont make problems
18:33:02  <PublicServer> <scrlk> is my current location ok?
18:33:40  <PublicServer> <scrlk> fucking oil refinery
18:34:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> the bridge -> tunnel replacement
18:34:18  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok
18:34:24  <PublicServer> <scrlk> you know i did it
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18:34:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> you were doing like you didnt
18:34:46  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well where can i find the bloody farm
18:34:54  <PublicServer> <ppetak> Can I also run this command to see how much i terraformed on last piece of work?
18:34:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> get out of the server please
18:35:06  <PublicServer> <scrlk> what?
18:35:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> ppetak: that is no command
18:35:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> scrlk: this is enough
18:35:16  <PublicServer> <ppetak> ah, logs then
18:35:22  <PublicServer> <scrlk> jesus i just admited i did that
18:35:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will not ban you but get back after you wise up
18:35:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> I do not care if you admit or not
18:35:40  <PublicServer> <scrlk> for performance and other reasosns
18:35:42  <PublicServer> <scrlk> fuck this shit hole
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18:35:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
18:37:49  <PublicServer> <ppetak> i have a question. On wiki there is written that signals should be as close to junction as possible. But that could break signal gap of 2.
18:37:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
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18:38:52  <PublicServer> <ppetak> Ok. I will think about it ;)
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18:39:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think I know what your problem was ... you thought that when you have a line with signal gap 2 that suddenly turns into gap 1 and after a while back to 2, it would make problems, right?
18:39:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> imagine it like the gap is relative between trains
18:39:36  <PublicServer> <ppetak> right
18:39:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> so when they are 2 tiles from each other, they do not mind that they can suddenly go closer
18:40:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> therefore, the only thing that would disturb them would be suddenly larger gap
18:40:53  <PublicServer> <ppetak> yes, i have realized that. Thanks.
18:40:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> np
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18:42:19  <V453000> !password
18:42:19  <PublicServer> V453000: uphill
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18:46:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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18:46:12  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 'lo
18:46:14  <PublicServer> <ppetak> hola
18:46:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no more spliters?
18:46:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure, but in proper places :)
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18:48:47  <scrlk> you know what really annoying?
18:48:57  <scrlk> starting out at openttdcoop
18:48:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> is island 1 Erail or none?
18:49:00  <scrlk> reading the wiki
18:49:21  <scrlk> then joining the game and realising all you learnt is old and you wasted your time
18:49:25  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> scrlk don't read every wiki
18:50:02  <V453000> scrlk: the wiki didnt make you a complete idiot I believe
18:50:09  <scrlk> *roll eyes*
18:50:14  <V453000> you were one before you read it, right?
18:50:18  <HalfBit> !password
18:50:18  <PublicServer> HalfBit: uphill
18:50:19  <V453000> so dont blame us or our wiki.
18:50:34  <scrlk> im not blaming you or the wiki
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18:51:26  <scrlk> im just stating that is annoying to read the wiki, get 'updated' with ottc building concepts, then joining the game and realising that the concepts are gone
18:51:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> island 01 - elrail, sure :)
18:51:47  <V453000> scrlk: so what
18:52:05  <scrlk> if you try to apply your learning, you get shouted at
18:52:21  <V453000> you tried to APPLY ANYTHING what I have told you?
18:52:28  <V453000> telling you 30 times terraform less
18:52:30  <V453000> etc?
18:52:38  <V453000> that is what I call effective application indeed
18:52:49  <V453000> and has NOTHING to do with wiki or your knowledge
18:52:50  <scrlk> you do realise there is SOMETIMES NO WAY AROUND IT
18:53:00  <scrlk> YOU HAVE TO TF TO GET THAT RAIL/ROAD DOWN
18:53:04  <V453000> yes?
18:53:15  <V453000> and to for example replace a bridge for a tunnel to TF more?
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18:53:24  <V453000> when the better solution is already there?
18:53:31  <V453000> then it doesnt exist, makes sense
18:53:35  <scrlk> you know what I do? if i tf and ruin the landscape, i TRY TO RESTORE IT
18:53:42  <V453000> no you dont
18:53:51  <scrlk> TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY
18:54:04  <V453000> then sorry but our server isnt for your abilities
18:54:05  <scrlk> eg. tunnel tf, build tunnel and road, then resore
18:54:14  <scrlk> give me time?
18:54:22  <V453000> I did already
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18:54:39  <scrlk> well if theres an empty island left i could build an slh?
18:54:45  <V453000> what?
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18:55:26  <scrlk> you blind or something?
18:55:32  <scrlk> if there is an empty island left
18:55:38  <scrlk> and you need a slh built i can do it
18:55:50  <scrlk> just to prove im not 100% down syndrome
18:55:57  <V453000> I dont need you to prove it, you are.
18:56:09  <scrlk> hahaha
18:56:18  <scrlk> you ever been punched in the face in rl?
18:56:33  <V453000> you are worthy a punch :)
18:56:42  <V453000> you shout at people who help you, do not listen to advices
18:56:45  <PublicServer> <ppetak> FLAMEWAR!!!
18:56:57  <scrlk> you are an abrasive person, you know that don't you?
18:57:10  <scrlk> the tone that comes across when you offer help just pisses me off
18:57:21  <scrlk> seriously
18:57:30  <V453000> good
18:57:35  <V453000> then fuck off
18:57:38  <scrlk> it is one of a large ego and contempt
18:58:01  <V453000> if you do not want help, I do not need to give it to you
18:58:12  <Chris_Booth> I am only going to bite my tounge
18:58:17  <V453000> fun eh
18:58:29  <scrlk> yes i need help as i adjust
18:58:40  <scrlk> but not in the tone of 'wtf omfg you fucking noob!!!111'
18:58:57  <scrlk> and 'wtf, build it this and that way!111'
18:59:06  <scrlk> i could go on
18:59:09  <scrlk> but i shouldnt
18:59:28  <V453000> umm, telling you something is wrong MIGHT help you doit better
18:59:35  <V453000> which obviously doesnt, that might be the problem
19:00:01  <scrlk> ever heard of constructive criticism?
19:00:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> Chris Booth: feel free to fund primaries on 01 and get it running :)
19:00:20  <scrlk> ie. 'you did x wrong, but heres a solution which is y'
19:00:34  <V453000> right, so you want me to build it for you
19:00:39  <scrlk> no
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19:00:44  <V453000> then what is y :)
19:00:44  <scrlk> eg. you say the solution
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19:01:23  <scrlk> eg 'your load balancer is incorrectly built. why don't you try adjusting the signals?'
19:01:30  <scrlk> thats what i need
19:01:44  <scrlk> not 'omfg your load balancer is wrong, you are such a fucking noob'
19:01:52  <V453000> I never said that btw
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19:01:59  <Chris_Booth> scrlk: maybe what would be a good idea now is to stop arguing in channel
19:02:01  <scrlk> its just an example
19:02:11  <scrlk> of what i faced in building things
19:02:25  <V453000> sure yes
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19:02:53  <V453000> besides, I was not the only one who tried to help you
19:02:55  <scrlk> you think im bullshitting dont you?
19:03:05  <V453000> remember how you constructed your first primary pickup?
19:03:13  <scrlk> yes but others were at least providing some decent help
19:03:14  <V453000> and shouted at everyone that we are idiots?
19:03:28  <V453000> no, you arent bullshitting me, I fear you believe the things you say
19:03:38  <scrlk> id like to thank mfb and vinnie for BEARING PATIENCE when i built my first slh
19:03:51  <scrlk> and helping big time
19:04:19  <Yexo> !password
19:04:19  <PublicServer> Yexo: froths
19:04:35  <V453000> maybe because you listened to you :)
19:04:39  <scrlk> you were on the server when i build that slh v453000
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19:04:53  <scrlk> no i accept your advice, its just the way that you push it forward
19:05:02  <V453000> when I give you advice not to build the road, and you build it again when you are rebuilding it completely, is it accepting advice?
19:05:18  <V453000> hi Yexo btw :)
19:05:29  <scrlk> you asked me 'why is this road here'
19:05:32  <Yexo> good evening :)
19:05:44  <V453000> yes, what is pushed forward there :)
19:05:44  <scrlk> i replied 'i don't know, i rebuilt the original design'
19:06:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes and I said that you copied it which means you are responsible for it and should know
19:06:09  <scrlk> but i then offered an alternative as you did not SEEM to like the current junction
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19:06:30  <scrlk> if i copied it i am just reimplimenting someone elses thought
19:06:31  <PublicServer> *** Yexo has left the game (connection lost)
19:06:39  <scrlk> (sp errors i know)
19:06:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> you still are responsible for the errors though :)
19:07:01  <scrlk> fine
19:07:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyway, why are we talking about that?
19:07:22  <scrlk> but instead for offering vague messages you should try to offer ones of advice
19:07:39  <scrlk> it just might help a little, tiny bit
19:07:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> which I didnt. yes, sure.
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19:08:21  <Yexo> !password
19:08:21  <PublicServer> Yexo: alkali
19:08:23  <scrlk> as to my 1st primary stn, what did i do?
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19:08:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> umm, not accept anyones advice again, terraform as hell even though I told you 8 times not to, and tell us all that our stations are wrong, you will build yours?
19:09:29  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i did not say all your stations were wrong if i recall correctl
19:09:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> you didnt but since you intended on using yours, you showed it
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19:09:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw what are you doing here
19:10:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> proving you wrong, its a great game!
19:10:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
19:12:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> more trains please :D
19:13:01  <V453000> sure
19:13:06  <V453000> !rcon set max_trains 1666
19:13:16  <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh v, your slh on 04 loves to jam still
19:13:54  <scrlk> what did i do this time apart from replace bridges?
19:13:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> unless you get wiser
19:13:59  <scrlk> and starting the facts
19:14:09  <scrlk> no v, i am saying that your slh on 04 is slow
19:14:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> starting to find my constructions and inform me they work poorly is kind of strange dont you think
19:14:39  <scrlk> im sorry
19:14:44  <scrlk> isnt this coop
19:14:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is
19:14:53  <scrlk> where people spot other peoples errors?
19:15:06  <scrlk> and politely inform them?
19:15:07  <PublicServer> <ppetak> don't be like 8 years old guys ...
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19:15:43  <scrlk> so i got kicked for saying your slh is slowing up? i do not have the exp to fix it so i am referring it to a person who can
19:15:51  <scrlk> !password
19:15:51  <PublicServer> scrlk: alkali
19:16:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> no, you didnt :) you are only trying to annoy me
19:16:10  <scrlk> im not trying to slag off your design
19:16:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> it sucks, I admit it
19:16:28  <scrlk> ok
19:16:33  <PublicServer> <ppetak> yes, you are saying it like "hehehe hehehe , your join is jaaaamiiing"
19:16:34  <scrlk> so why did you kickban me?
19:16:52  <scrlk> 'oh v, your slh on 04 loves to jam still'
19:17:05  <scrlk> i would not call that bating
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19:17:14  <PublicServer> <ppetak> still, I can hear it there ..
19:17:35  <scrlk> it is just pointing out that although you have fixed it as best as you can, it is still becoming slow
19:18:12  <PublicServer> <Yexo> which, given your previous discussion you just had with V453000, is inappropriate at this time
19:18:35  <V453000> ok, lets get this straight and finish it. You have a ban for a few days to wise up and eventually learn some building by that time. For now, goodbye.
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19:18:40  <scrlk> im sorry if i offended you v but i think i am in the bounds to politely inform you that your little creation is slow :)
19:19:00  <V453000> one more word and you get ban from channel
19:19:14  <KenjiE20> what's all this?
19:19:29  <V453000> Kenji: our mate got kinda angry
19:19:41  <scrlk> :(
19:19:46  <KenjiE20> the returning one?
19:19:53  <scrlk> *siiiigh*
19:20:22  <Vinnie> scrlk be the wiser and leave it alone for a day or 2
19:20:37  <scrlk> ok vinnie, thank you
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19:20:47  <scrlk> just getting riled up at all of this
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19:21:33  <Vinnie> i know an other server with most settings similiar. i will learn you some basic stuff there. do you want to?
19:22:00  <scrlk> im all right thanks
19:22:48  <scrlk> some people on here are just winding me up
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19:24:41  <scrlk> dont you about you vinnie but its god damn annoying being told that what you just built is 'crap' and you are left stumped wondering why
19:24:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> o_O 01 coal 1 has 3 mines?
19:25:15  <scrlk> you try to fix it but you just end up in the same cycle
19:25:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> scrlk: you WERE told why in every case
19:25:46  <scrlk> right before i pop a gasket im going
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19:26:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: Razmir is gone for the weekend, feel free to use stable for teaching purposes
19:26:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ok that is why i cant find it
19:26:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :)
19:26:50  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ok ppl im off to welcome. need some space for my own
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19:27:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> :o cya
19:27:22  <PublicServer> <ppetak> factory drop TL splitter is jamming sometimes ..
19:27:48  <PublicServer> <ppetak> don't send there TL2 or less for the moment
19:28:01  <PublicServer> <ppetak> on 01 ...
19:28:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it jammed as I was messing arround with trains
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19:29:25  <PublicServer> <ppetak> yes .. its not good, I'm training TL splitter with logic offline :)
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19:32:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> TL2 seems ok
19:33:07  <PublicServer> <ppetak> but TL1 or TL2 closely  followed by longer train will jam it
19:33:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> that might be true actually
19:33:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> definitely TL1
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19:34:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> Dreadingstone Heights trains are half steel
19:34:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> oops
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19:37:14  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
19:37:16  <V453000> !password
19:37:16  <PublicServer> V453000: cheeks
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19:48:58  <V453000> !password
19:48:58  <PublicServer> V453000: clouts
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19:49:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> v Dradingstone Halt Trains are to long
19:49:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you want me to fix them for you?
19:49:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh hell :D
19:50:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> thanks
19:50:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> me noob
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19:51:42  <scrlk> right
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19:53:37  <scrlk> v, i do have to admit and thank you for your help. however, the help has been delivered quite bluntly, and ergo, i have been becoming quite annoyed as a result
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19:54:04  <kriokamera> !playercount
19:54:04  <PublicServer> kriokamera: Number of players: 5 (1 spectators)
19:54:09  <kriokamera> so many
19:54:13  <kriokamera> !password
19:54:13  <PublicServer> kriokamera: totals
19:54:20  <scrlk> guess v is dead then :/
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19:55:28  * scrlk slaps V453000 around a bit with a large fishbot
19:55:33  <scrlk> hahaha
19:55:53  <scrlk> interesting button then...
19:56:00  <scrlk> !players
19:56:03  <PublicServer> scrlk: Client 92 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (psg200)
19:56:03  <PublicServer> scrlk: Client 74 (Orange) is Chris Booth, in company 1 (psg200)
19:56:03  <PublicServer> scrlk: Client 54 (Orange) is ppetak, in company 1 (psg200)
19:56:03  <PublicServer> scrlk: Client 76 is Halfbit, a spectator
19:56:03  <PublicServer> scrlk: Client 65 (Orange) is Mazur, in company 1 (psg200)
19:56:05  <PublicServer> scrlk: Client 94 (Orange) is kriokamera, in company 1 (psg200)
19:56:22  <V453000> right :)
19:56:32  <V453000> now get back here and be good boy :P
19:56:42  <scrlk> look: to keep it simple, i do appreciate all the help from more experienced members ok?
19:57:21  <V453000> I know you do :) all fine
19:57:25  <scrlk> however i do not like the 'help' to be delivered in such a blunt, and thus rude fashion that i take offence to mkay?
19:57:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its easy mkay!
19:58:59  <scrlk> anyway theres nothing left that's major to build
19:59:09  <scrlk> im calling it quits until psg 201
19:59:13  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> V, why do we need a SLH03-06? i still misunderstand
19:59:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> for some industries there? :)
19:59:36  <scrlk> on 03, feel free to raze my slh, its not needed
19:59:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why do none of our 160km/h MUs refit to goods?
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19:59:46  <V453000> !password
19:59:46  <PublicServer> V453000: totals
19:59:52  <PublicServer> <ppetak> gtg, so good evening everyone.
19:59:59  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> no industries there and no places for them, isn't it?
20:00:07  <PublicServer> <ppetak> bye
20:00:09  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> bye
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20:00:15  <scrlk> 03 is a total mess atm
20:00:17  <Vinnie> @gap4
20:00:19  <Vinnie> @gap 4
20:00:19  <Webster> Vinnie: For Trainlength of 4: <= 10 needs 2, 11 - 16 needs 3, 17 - 22 needs 4.
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20:00:32  <V453000> there is :)
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20:00:38  <scrlk> ?
20:00:51  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> ah
20:00:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> there :P
20:00:55  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> okay =)
20:01:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> ... or could be il from water, maybe even one more primary
20:01:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> every one counts :p
20:01:13  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> why we couldn't connect it to another SLH?
20:01:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 03 is almost finished
20:01:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> that would be far and an odd connection
20:01:36  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> odd?
20:01:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, if we took it from some other SLH
20:02:08  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> * going to google.translator *
20:02:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> SLH 03-02 is just totally somewhere else and 03-01 will probably remain exclusive for the town
20:02:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> odd - strange
20:02:27  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> thanks
20:02:45  * kriokamera fg
20:02:53  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> =)
20:02:56  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> working
20:03:06  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> okay, thanks, i understood it
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20:04:10  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> build a station for this farm?
20:04:34  <scrlk> since 200 is nearly wrapped up (80% complete imo), what has been your favourite and hated island?
20:04:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure, you can
20:05:24  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> hm. no serious tf, yep?
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20:06:10  <scrlk> in a nutshell: dont do what I do
20:06:42  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> talking to me?
20:06:59  <scrlk> yep ;)
20:07:06  <PublicServer> *** Halfbit has left the game (connection lost)
20:07:12  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> then i misunderstood again, sorry
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20:10:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I think this game should be know as the game of over engineering
20:10:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> ? :)
20:10:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Take island 01 for example
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20:11:02  <V453000> !password
20:11:02  <PublicServer> V453000: steams
20:11:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> all of that for a hand full of industry
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20:11:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, yes
20:11:28  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> is there some builders board?
20:11:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> but send TL1 or 2 and it is dead
20:11:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> kriokamera: good point, probably isnt
20:11:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> found one please
20:12:22  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> made some
20:13:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> cock
20:13:42  <kriokamera> O_o??
20:14:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I made alot of 152 km/h trains on island 1 thinking they where 160's
20:14:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
20:14:08  <scrlk> any guides to build the perfect slh with lb and prios?
20:14:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> just try
20:14:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> the one you built is basically ok
20:14:57  <scrlk> oooh err
20:15:11  <scrlk> in my eyes its the worst thing seen
20:15:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> not by far
20:15:50  <scrlk> the current problem i have is figuring how to combine both lb and prios
20:16:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is fairly simple, on each join, there needs to be prio
20:16:29  <scrlk> yep
20:16:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> and each line of the ML needs to be joined from SL
20:16:55  <scrlk> you should do a simple building revue :P
20:17:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> Chris: 4 trains for TL5? :o
20:17:39  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
20:17:47  <V453000> !password
20:17:47  <PublicServer> V453000: steams
20:17:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it looks cool
20:18:03  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> bad connections, V?
20:18:03  <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game
20:18:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
20:18:09  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> connection*
20:18:25  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> happens
20:18:33  <scrlk> i would join the game but ive switched computers and its as fast as a snail
20:18:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> i should have better very soon
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20:19:13  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> hey, SLH 03-06 is undone =)
20:19:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
20:19:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> he :)
20:19:46  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> trains coming from SW can't turn to right
20:19:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> indeed
20:20:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> wait
20:20:10  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> pfff... hate this relief
20:20:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> they do
20:20:11  <scrlk> wow the website server is slow
20:20:51  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> how?
20:22:22  <scrlk> it takes ages to load up the blog
20:22:26  <scrlk> 15 secs
20:22:51  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> hehehe... 20 years ago it was amazing fast
20:23:01  <scrlk> lol
20:23:01  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> well, 15
20:23:14  <scrlk> oh the golden days of the internet]
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20:24:30  <V453000> !password
20:24:30  <PublicServer> V453000: infamy
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20:25:18  <kriokamera> cl
20:25:26  <kriokamera> how to calculate cl here?
20:25:30  <kriokamera> @cl
20:25:30  <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed
20:25:38  <kriokamera> @cl 225
20:25:38  <Webster> kriokamera: (cl <no arguments>) -- Returns full name and reference url (if defined)
20:25:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> goods drop doesn't accept goods :'(
20:25:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
20:26:47  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> what cl is needed for TL3 and speed 225?
20:26:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> 3
20:27:27  <kriokamera> bad
20:28:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> now it does
20:36:33  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> done
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20:39:17  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> afk
20:39:37  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i'm proud of my station =)
20:39:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
20:40:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> wood drop trains had full load at drop
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20:40:22  <V453000> kriokamera: I will tell you you dont want to hear
20:40:29  <V453000> something you dont want to hear
20:40:34  <V453000> !password
20:40:34  <PublicServer> V453000: graped
20:40:40  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> m?
20:40:46  <V453000> it is a farm
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20:41:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> -> 2 stations :)
20:41:17  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> ah fucking fuck
20:41:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
20:41:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> just tf water a bit
20:41:46  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> hey
20:41:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> here is nicer :p
20:41:48  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> =)
20:41:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> or well
20:41:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets use both
20:41:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> and make another rimary
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20:42:45  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> well
20:42:51  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> it's cheating =)
20:42:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> has a little CL but that totally doesnt matter at that spot
20:43:55  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> ah man
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20:45:20  <scrlk> !password
20:45:20  <PublicServer> scrlk: graped
20:45:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> is good this way, y?
20:45:30  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> nice
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20:45:44  <scrlk> is there any work left
20:46:08  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> our target is to make as many as possible industrys and serve'em?
20:46:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite
20:46:23  <PublicServer> <scrlk> on 01?
20:46:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, as long as the network copes
20:46:32  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> we're now on 3
20:46:56  <PublicServer> <scrlk> so whats multipoint all about?
20:46:59  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> so, let's add trains or later?
20:47:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> multiple drops
20:47:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> let me show
20:48:02  <PublicServer> <scrlk> we can re arrange the drontfield area imo
20:48:31  <PublicServer> <scrlk> if only i could rebuild a station that is :S
20:49:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> see train  1561 for example of multipoint
20:49:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> (see the orders)
20:49:33  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> well
20:49:39  <PublicServer> <scrlk> wow
20:49:46  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> in four iterations it must visit four drops?
20:49:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
20:50:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is for all primaries
20:50:17  <PublicServer> <scrlk> can i bribe if theres no other alternative other than to create an island and fill it with trees?
20:50:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
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20:50:38  <PublicServer> <scrlk> so tf an island or bribe?
20:50:50  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> connect all industrys i see?
20:51:05  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> like these around the BBH 03-02?
20:51:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> krio: sure, all preferably
20:53:10  <PublicServer> <scrlk> argh fu drontfield
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20:53:28  <PublicServer> <scrlk> ffs
20:53:32  <PublicServer> <scrlk> *rage*
20:54:23  <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i need to go. bye!
20:54:27  <PublicServer> <scrlk> bye
20:54:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> see you
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20:56:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> :O
20:56:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> why did you do that
20:56:20  <PublicServer> <scrlk> for trees
20:56:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> but the station moving
20:56:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i can resore it
20:57:17  <PublicServer> <scrlk> but for now im trying to eyecandy
20:57:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> well thats nice but why did you remove the station Atoompje built there
20:58:20  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well i wanted it to share the same place as the goods station ála sedingwell
20:58:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
20:58:58  <PublicServer> <scrlk> FFS
20:59:04  <PublicServer> <scrlk> FU DRONTFIELD
20:59:12  <PublicServer> <scrlk> damn you to hell!
20:59:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> I still dont get it why
20:59:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> it was all fine there
20:59:44  <PublicServer> <scrlk> well i wanted to have a solution like the one on sedingwell ridge
20:59:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> but why
21:00:04  <PublicServer> <scrlk> and also to reduce the number of goods platforms
21:00:08  <PublicServer> <scrlk> space is there
21:00:23  <PublicServer> <scrlk> entrance is not great
21:00:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> reduce number of platforms
21:00:23  <planetmaker> please watch your language.
21:01:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> I just dont see why do you need to replace 2+4 platforms with 2+2 platforms
21:01:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> the goods station was overbuilt
21:02:05  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i grossly over estimated the traffic when i built it
21:02:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> no, it was fine
21:02:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> and/or it could have been swapped with the pax station
21:02:41  <PublicServer> <scrlk> v whats the best way to raise the ratings?
21:03:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> trees usually work
21:03:10  <PublicServer> <scrlk> theres no space
21:03:14  <PublicServer> <scrlk> unless i tf a large island
21:03:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure, temporarily why not
21:04:10  <PublicServer> <scrlk> i cant build a station ther:/
21:04:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> come make 4 for pax and 3 for goods
21:04:24  <PublicServer> <scrlk> 4 is too much imo
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21:04:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> ... then 3, whatever but it fits there
21:04:37  <PublicServer> <scrlk> or are we going for a high traffic situation?
21:04:50  <PublicServer> <scrlk> WAIT
21:04:53  <PublicServer> <scrlk> oops caps
21:05:19  <PublicServer> <scrlk> there>
21:05:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe
21:06:54  <PublicServer> <scrlk> nice
21:06:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh, bank
21:07:00  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yep :(
21:07:06  <PublicServer> <scrlk> aint it a biatch
21:07:13  <PublicServer> <scrlk> coal?
21:07:43  <PublicServer> <scrlk> humm
21:07:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> to fit it there with the bank
21:07:57  <PublicServer> <scrlk> looks rather odd
21:08:01  <PublicServer> <scrlk> yeah
21:08:11  <PublicServer> <scrlk> buffer?
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21:09:04  <PublicServer> <scrlk> hehehe
21:09:45  <PublicServer> <scrlk> its not going above poor with trees/
21:10:16  <V453000> the airport should be moved
21:10:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh nevermind
21:10:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> was just looking at a savegame .D
21:10:45  <PublicServer> <scrlk> drontfield airport is what got us started in the first place cashwise
21:10:51  <Vinnie> !password
21:10:51  <PublicServer> Vinnie: flurry
21:10:53  <PublicServer> <scrlk> good times
21:11:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> not really
21:11:02  <PublicServer> <scrlk> house is in the way
21:11:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> cheats did
21:11:06  <Vinnie> !password
21:11:06  <PublicServer> Vinnie: flurry
21:11:06  <PublicServer> <scrlk> lol
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21:11:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?? :O
21:11:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi Vinnie btw :)
21:11:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
21:11:47  <PublicServer> <scrlk> just loks odd with a road missing
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21:11:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, then delete the road
21:16:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> actually we could make  it as follows:
21:16:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> make trains on 03 have one home town
21:16:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> that will be the town pax station
21:16:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> and they could also unload at goods stations
21:17:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> in the other towns
21:17:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> so we dont break the full load
21:18:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I hope BBH 01-01 never needs expanding
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21:21:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> CB: its ok, it already was a unexpandable 4way :D
21:21:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it now has 2 SLs built into it
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21:27:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> Wrinningbury should be added to 03 :)
21:30:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Wrinningbury should have a Cbahn
21:30:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> no way
21:30:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> just bridgez :)
21:30:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Bridges are lame, Cbahn and cool Terminus
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21:31:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> no ships
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21:31:54  <V453000> !password
21:31:54  <PublicServer> V453000: healer
21:31:54  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok no ships
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21:39:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
21:39:31  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no
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21:39:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> Sunfingbridge South
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21:40:27  <Mohreb> Hi
21:40:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nasty
21:40:33  <V453000> hello
21:40:43  <Mohreb> it is the openttdcoop room?
21:40:53  <V453000> yes it is, be welcome :)
21:40:59  <V453000> see the topic :)
21:41:37  <Mohreb> thanks, i have tougth to go up and see your server running to learn from the bests ; but i really dont know how to do ...
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21:41:53  <Mohreb> (not an irc wizard neither ... i asked just to be sure tougth
21:41:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I was going to yes, but only on mondays wednesdays and fridays. on tuesdays , thursdays and saturdays is the Distruction room and on sundays we are closed
21:41:56  <V453000> @quickstart
21:41:57  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
21:42:01  <V453000> this will help you
21:42:06  <Mohreb> thanks for the link
21:42:35  <V453000> there should be all starting stuff you need
21:43:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> big pause
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21:51:22  <V453000> gnight
21:51:30  <Chris_Booth> night
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22:00:58  <Mohreb> wich one should i join (i downloaded the nigthly r21825, and the graphic sets for the welcome server, others coulden't be found :S )?
22:02:47  <planetmaker> you cannot join the welcome server with r21825, but only this one ;-)
22:03:06  <planetmaker> versions have to be an exact match
22:03:34  <Mohreb> ah i forgot about that ... but for this one he don't found the GRF's (not all at least)
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22:05:46  <Chris_Booth> Mohreb: you need the openttdcoop grf pack as well as the grfs from bananas
22:06:10  <Mohreb> is it the 8.0?
22:06:25  <Mohreb> from here http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/GRF?
22:06:34  <Chris_Booth> 8.0 should work
22:06:45  <Chris_Booth> it contains all the grfs
22:07:15  <Mohreb> some times i feel stupid about asking so much :D i should really just read and trust quickstart docs
22:08:37  <Chris_Booth> I am using 8.0
22:08:49  <Chris_Booth> just need to be in you openttd data file
22:12:59  <Mohreb> ok i can come in :D thx for all help,
22:13:00  <Mohreb> should i join your company or spectating?
22:14:34  <hylje> spectating never pissed anyone off
22:14:42  <Mohreb> ok
22:15:01  * Rubidium wonders whether he should disagree with that ;)
22:15:03  <Mohreb> hmm it ask me a password ...
22:15:33  <Mohreb> could i have pls ?
22:16:49  <hylje> !password
22:16:49  <PublicServer> hylje: outlaw
22:17:35  <hylje> Rubidium: anyone of value, really. some people get mad at the tiniest things, but that should be a #1 warning sign..
22:17:37  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
22:17:37  <PublicServer> *** Mohreb joined the game
22:17:53  <Mohreb> ah ok i understand now ... it is not there i needed to put in :D
22:28:55  <Mohreb> wow nice building
22:29:46  <Mohreb> i think my prefered is the left corner however i don't really get the system on it ...
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23:00:07  <Vinnie> !players
23:00:09  <PublicServer> Vinnie: Client 132 is Mohreb, a spectator
23:00:09  <PublicServer> Vinnie: Client 65 is Mazur, a spectator
23:00:25  <Vinnie> !password
23:00:25  <PublicServer> Vinnie: vanned
23:00:32  <Rubidium> oh... bad command name
23:00:47  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
23:00:47  <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game
23:00:55  <Rubidium> players should return those that are active; the rest are spectators/clients ;)
23:00:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
23:13:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i got a new idea anyone wanna play
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23:14:41  <Mohreb> i go to sleep still thank for all info and showing me your game
23:15:02  <Mohreb> good nigth everyone
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