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Log for #openttdcoop on 11th February 2011:
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00:02:30  <PublicServer> <sturmi> uh slindstone grows slowly
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00:26:31  <Mazur> !password
00:26:31  <PublicServer> Mazur: plaids
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00:33:17  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, we're back.
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00:33:56  <ppetak> !password
00:33:56  <PublicServer> ppetak: plaids
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00:34:11  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Which one is that again?
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00:34:38  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 3rd biggest
00:34:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> sucks
00:34:46  <PublicServer> <ppetak> hi guys
00:35:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Chudinghall?
00:35:12  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, Ppppettaakkkkkk
00:35:22  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah Chudinghall is my city
00:36:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> NIce spread you;ve got there.
00:38:41  <PublicServer> <Mazur> So, how come you got so much 'burbs, while I have sporadix burb housing?
00:39:53  <PublicServer> <sturmi> well, at about 70k the city stopped growing, i added some growthtunnels (using other grids)
00:40:07  <PublicServer> <sturmi> and since about 150k it is exploding
00:40:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Growth tunnels, from hte centre to the outskirts?
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00:41:29  <PublicServer> <sturmi> from the center to the east (outof my grid) and then back into the outskirts
00:41:41  <PublicServer> <sturmi> you can still see some in the southeast
00:42:15  <PublicServer> <sturmi> look at !growth tunnels
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00:42:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur>  it.
00:42:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I get it.
00:47:59  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Fluckerty fluck, I've blocked all possible centre->out tunnel possibilities.
00:48:36  <PublicServer> <sturmi> then try bridges
00:48:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ha!
00:48:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> JOker.
00:49:52  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, yeah, I already had one such tunnel.
00:53:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Done.
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01:02:05  <PublicServer> <sturmi> hey i see a house :D
01:02:27  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 20 SW is funny: all suburbs and no Urb.
01:02:54  <PublicServer> <sturmi> Urb is faaar away
01:03:09  <PublicServer> <sturmi> teh tunnels only create suburbs
01:03:20  <PublicServer> <sturmi> the center grows in circles
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01:04:50  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Try again, silly Council.
01:05:12  <PublicServer> <sturmi> you remooved the house?
01:05:18  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yep.
01:05:21  <PublicServer> <sturmi> why?
01:05:31  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It annoyed me for a moment.
01:05:34  <PublicServer> <sturmi> haha
01:05:40  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Mistake,.
01:06:39  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Because it _was_ in a catchment, after all.
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01:22:16  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Have you got anything going on, Peppy?
01:23:27  <PublicServer> <ppetak> notning .. just looking and making show for my old friends :)
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01:37:57  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, third bus stop accepting pax.  That's half of the, now.
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01:42:39  <stafen> !password
01:42:39  <PublicServer> stafen: sleeve
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01:47:16  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You;ve got houses at 11-c-6, ppetak.
01:48:10  <PublicServer> <sturmi> you had a house at 608 :/
01:48:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> he one I killed, yeah.
01:48:39  <PublicServer> <sturmi> did you make further injections?
01:49:02  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Once, I think.
01:49:36  <PublicServer> <sturmi> ok, looks like its growing again... +2k
01:49:58  <PublicServer> <sturmi> just be a little patient
01:50:28  <PublicServer> <Mazur> The Upper East side is filling out, nicely.
01:51:10  <PublicServer> <sturmi> lol
01:51:28  <PublicServer> <sturmi> your growthtunnels are not connected
01:52:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, yes, I went over to protect bits outside and got distracted, I guess.
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01:56:26  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Houser at 610.
01:56:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yay
01:56:46  <PublicServer> <sturmi> finally
01:57:41  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yeah, from that area there's another step to the southern edge.
01:58:15  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Two steps, but who cares.
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01:58:48  <avdg> Bleh, time for other stuff ;-)
01:58:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> WHha, a prison in the south,
01:59:03  <PublicServer> <Mazur> We're getting serious.
01:59:13  <PublicServer> <sturmi> at 731?
01:59:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yep./
01:59:33  <PublicServer> <sturmi> its been there for some time
01:59:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not noticed it.
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02:00:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, AV.
02:00:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey
02:00:06  <PublicServer> <sturmi> is there another bus stop near a police station?
02:00:07  <PublicServer> <sturmi> hey av
02:00:33  <PublicServer> * avdg was mad on his own code from 2 months ago
02:02:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> bleh, Slindstone Bay is growing _very_ slow
02:02:15  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes.
02:02:25  <PublicServer> <sturmi> wow, it just shrinked 4k
02:02:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Shrinking again, even.
02:02:37  <PublicServer> <sturmi> theres some serious building going on
02:02:43  <PublicServer> <avdg> though, the number of houses are slightly increasing
02:03:14  <PublicServer> <sturmi> shrinking jsut means new (bigger?) houses being built
02:03:23  <PublicServer> <sturmi> be optimistic :)
02:03:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> donno
02:03:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> its maybe because cities can "wave" too :p
02:04:31  <PublicServer> <sturmi> lot of building sites in the center
02:04:54  <PublicServer> <sturmi> and a brand new mall in the north
02:08:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm, maybe because there are too many roads
02:08:44  <PublicServer> <avdg> a city claims roads tile-by-tile
02:08:44  <PublicServer> <avdg> donno
02:09:06  <PublicServer> <sturmi> no, the city claims rings
02:09:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> I think that thats a check before doing it
02:10:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> donno, I didn't pay enough attention while looking at the source
02:10:54  <PublicServer> <sturmi> oh, you are a dev?
02:11:04  <PublicServer> <avdg> not a real one (yet)
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02:18:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> beh, gn folks :)
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02:19:17  <PublicServer> <sturmi> gn
02:19:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> SW
02:19:32  * avdg is getting tired
02:19:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sleep well, then.
02:20:00  <avdg> cya
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02:38:28  <PublicServer> <sturmi> good night Mazur
02:38:50  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, good night.
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05:08:15  <Sylf> !password
05:08:15  <PublicServer> Sylf: gooier
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10:06:58  <sturmi> !players
10:07:01  <PublicServer> sturmi: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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11:18:09  <Mazur> Wrong command, sturmi:
11:18:13  <Mazur> !password
11:18:13  <PublicServer> Mazur: gooier
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12:46:20  <sturmi> !password
12:46:20  <PublicServer> sturmi: hoists
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12:58:52  <slaca> !password
12:58:52  <PublicServer> slaca: titted
12:59:00  <PublicServer> <slaca> hi
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13:02:24  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, we're running.
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13:17:25  <Mazur> Sorry, Slaca, was acive on hte Welcome server.
13:17:29  <Mazur> active, too.
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13:56:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> oof over 50% there
13:56:14  <PublicServer> <sturmi> ?
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13:56:26  <PublicServer> <Mazur> CPOU, I'm guessing.
13:56:30  <PublicServer> <Mazur> CPU
13:56:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no of out objective
13:57:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> CPU is running @ 5%
13:57:20  <PublicServer> <Mazur> We can make Station 07 a joint venture.
13:57:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> who is we?
13:58:22  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You and I.  You said you were out of objective?
13:58:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes my city will not grow anymore
13:58:52  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Which I understood as: Nothing left to do.
14:00:29  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm starting 07  from scratch, I have a design idea,  but now we can add seeding tunnels and bridges from the word go.
14:01:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> cool cool
14:01:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I think the centre could go @Centre
14:02:03  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Platform idea is in hte south-west.
14:02:27  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Single train for every platform, initially, full orders.
14:02:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> @ Butford Station #781?
14:02:31  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yep.
14:02:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And 790.
14:03:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> True.
14:03:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> gives us and extra building square like that
14:04:08  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, Centre was also my idea.
14:05:41  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bridgess frmo Centra could be like that.
14:06:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok you start placeing station I will start folling you
14:06:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> can we use a nice station GRF?
14:06:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm currently contemplatinf the drop off.
14:06:52  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sure.
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14:11:08  <mfb-> hi
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14:11:20  <mfb-> !password
14:11:20  <PublicServer> mfb-: sexing
14:11:20  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Muff!
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14:11:42  <PublicServer> <mfb> :o
14:13:13  <PublicServer> <mfb> mainhattan got "a bit" larger than expected :D
14:13:27  <PublicServer> <sturmi> wow
14:14:38  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ithink we're overreaching with 796 and 797.
14:14:54  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we can remove those
14:15:11  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Unless you have an idea for the transfer that includes them.
14:15:23  <PublicServer> <mfb> where?
14:15:31  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 07
14:16:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> since its an sbahn speed isn't a priorty just capacity
14:16:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so a few slow cureves doesnt realy matter
14:19:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> CB: My idea was to combine pairs of rows into a loop with a drop.
14:19:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> sounds like a good idea
14:19:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Like I did at Slindstone Bay.
14:19:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so my signals are wrong
14:20:12  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's not a problem, we can fix that after we decide how to hookup the second drop.
14:21:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 4 platforms for hte drop might be enough, SE3 seesm happy with that.
14:21:58  <PublicServer> <Mazur> At Slindstone Bay.
14:24:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> something like that?
14:24:38  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ror, will definately work.
14:24:42  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Roro
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14:31:02  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Now I was thinking about cobining the two last rows with the centre, but tha's going to be dead narrow.
14:31:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Made a pair of tunnels to see.
14:32:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> something like that for the last row?
14:32:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Or that.
14:35:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> copy to next 1/4?
14:39:22  <PublicServer> <Mazur> We could do NW TL 3 to see the TL difference at work?
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14:43:08  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sure, copy, CB.
14:44:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> But like I said, unless you already know hte answer, we could experiment with TL.
14:44:54  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its your choice man
14:45:02  <PublicServer> <Mazur> TL3.
14:45:12  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'll fix the stations.
14:45:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> TL3 it is then
14:53:49  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> afk
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14:55:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Have fnu.
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15:00:50  <PublicServer> <mfb> any quick way to set "don't unload" at 10 stations in the order list?
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15:01:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> NOt that I've discovered.
15:08:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Grr @ Noobs on stable ruining my network
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15:08:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> *comfort*
15:09:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Someone Decided to replace all trains in the network but with only 1 depot the trains can access
15:09:48  <PublicServer> <mfb> boat is gone? ;)
15:09:54  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> now it is just one big fucking jam
15:10:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hhm may use a boat to distory it
15:10:39  <PublicServer> <mfb> I mean the boat we had here
15:10:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ooh we have a boat?
15:11:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> had
15:11:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> where?
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15:11:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol
15:11:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you can add a boat to my park if ytou want
15:11:43  <PublicServer> <sturmi> i removed it to give your city a little more space
15:12:24  <PublicServer> <mfb> will need some time to grow there
15:14:26  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what about the last row?
15:14:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> CVombije with centre, somehow.
15:14:52  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Cobine.
15:15:17  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Should be doable.
15:15:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I don't quite understand you
15:15:56  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, trains.
15:16:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> use trams?
15:16:58  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I was going to place one station in the centre, combined with two rows, if I could.
15:17:16  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> cetre should be left empty
15:17:22  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> otherwise the city will not grow
15:17:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh.
15:17:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> (Peter Griffin voice:) I did not know that.
15:18:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Maybe hes a family guy
15:18:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Then I can put te bridge back into the very heart, too.
15:18:57  <PublicServer> <sturmi> somehow your city reminds me of the tv-show "weeds"
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15:19:17  <PublicServer> <sturmi> it all looks just the same :D
15:19:21  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That cannot be but a compliment.
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15:20:40  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Good technique!  Must remember that.
15:21:19  <PublicServer> <sturmi> why not just a reverser?
15:21:27  <PublicServer> <sturmi> aka train confusion centre
15:21:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> didint think about that
15:21:42  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Revwersers are the work of the devil.
15:21:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> :p
15:22:03  <PublicServer> <sturmi> so we have at least two devils here :D
15:22:13  <PublicServer> <mfb> where are you working?
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15:22:34  <PublicServer> <sturmi> i just kinda finished "sturmington goes Beer"
15:23:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> MIght work better that way.
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15:23:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> there we go
15:23:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> much nicer with the switch back
15:24:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> butford stations everywhere
15:24:27  <PublicServer> <sturmi> and more space-eficcient
15:24:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we could start that half
15:25:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> While be build the other half.  That would be nice, something to look at already.
15:26:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> that, too
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15:26:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what shall we name it?
15:26:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Leiden.
15:26:38  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Leiden it is
15:26:46  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Or something with Maz?
15:26:48  <PublicServer> <sturmi> they will suffer :D
15:27:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Made a tram track.  Does it look ok to you?
15:28:46  <PublicServer> <sturmi> maybe add a bus transfer to the station?
15:28:46  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not trams?
15:28:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok they are just growers
15:29:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> trams in a bit
15:30:49  <PublicServer> <sturmi> yay, 81%
15:30:56  <PublicServer> <mfb> 100% at Leiden!
15:31:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> 1 of 1 ;)
15:31:38  <PublicServer> <mfb> well, if the buildings are ready it will have some passengers
15:31:45  <PublicServer> <mfb> *when
15:31:47  <PublicServer> <sturmi> lol 1 of 1 transported
15:31:55  <PublicServer> <mfb> as they will be ready soon
15:33:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I guess you removed the railway corssing to avoid accidents.
15:34:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no just to stop growth to the other half
15:34:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> road distance is a bit long there
15:35:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, road, I tought, WTF, can be bridge stations now?
15:35:55  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
15:36:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol
15:36:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> would be nice
15:36:38  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Buildings should have a height, so a higher bridge could pass.
15:37:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> building do have a hieght
15:37:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> in pixels
15:37:07  <PublicServer> <sturmi> would you like to live under a bridge?
15:37:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Some people do.
15:37:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> people live in worse places, like liverpool
15:38:02  <PublicServer> <sturmi> :D
15:38:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not I, because I can;t stand incessant noise.
15:38:38  <PublicServer> <sturmi> i'm off, cu
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15:39:03  <PublicServer> <Mazur> BIbi.
15:39:06  <DayDreamer> !password
15:39:06  <PublicServer> DayDreamer: discus
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15:39:28  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, Deedee.
15:39:36  <PublicServer> <DayDreamer> hi
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15:43:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Just a little extra catchment.
15:44:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I got all the orders wrong on the new trians
15:44:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> s
15:44:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> forgot to transfer
15:44:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol
15:44:15  <PublicServer> <mfb> first house at the other side of the bridge
15:44:36  <PublicServer> <mfb> let's fill a train with 720 passengers from there! :D
15:45:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, strange feature of mainhattan: more passengers => SBahn system works better
15:45:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> (->more trains and better distribution of them)
15:48:26  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 0 - 5.5k in 6 months
15:49:12  <PublicServer> <mfb> will get interesting at 100k+ ;)
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15:54:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok shall we start on the other half?
15:54:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sure.  WHich will work best, do you think, TL5 or the TL3 one?
15:54:36  <PublicServer> <mfb> one tile missing to build something... always one tile :((
15:55:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Mazur: why not do TL4 and TL2 on the other side?
15:55:11  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sure.
15:55:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and have the random TL Sbahn?
15:55:31  <PublicServer> <Mazur> DOn;t know that concept.
15:55:49  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its not a consept
15:55:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just makes it different
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15:57:00  <PublicServer> <Mazur> One  litttle problem with that, I can't do "random", I can only make patterns.
15:57:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it will follow the same pattern as the others
15:57:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just with TL2 and TL4
15:58:02  <PublicServer> <Mazur> One quarter RTL2 and one quarter TL4?
15:58:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes
15:58:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That I can do.
15:58:29  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Lets calculate which side goes best with what length TL.
15:58:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I have to go now
15:58:54  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but will be back later
15:58:58  <PublicServer> <Mazur> k./
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16:00:16  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 132 length, that's 66. TL2 is 10 long, TL4 12.
16:04:16  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's 6 each.
16:09:17  <PublicServer> <mfb> you can give (or take) one or two tiles to/from 08
16:10:14  <PublicServer> <mfb> I think it is better to take the TL the system needs
16:10:24  <PublicServer> <mfb> instead of looking for single tiles
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16:11:33  <PublicServer> <mfb> btw you can catch one row more per station, just put a road in between
16:12:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I know, I was orignially going to use only one crossroad.
16:24:30  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Afk for a few.
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16:24:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> back lol
16:24:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> bad timing
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16:32:13  <PublicServer> <Mazur> This just in: N=Mubarak has left hte building.
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16:32:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nice
16:32:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> about time
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17:02:46  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Back, by the way.
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17:17:50  <PublicServer> * Mazur is pondering Transfer station placements.
17:17:58  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> for the trams?
17:18:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Nope, for the east.
17:18:26  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ooh I got stuck on those
17:18:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so left them
17:22:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I have made conditional orders for Leiden Trams
17:22:27  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Cool.
17:23:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hm, trhat's not going to work.
17:23:39  <PublicServer> <mfb> buses are still unloading in the city
17:23:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah
17:24:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> buses where only for growth
17:24:30  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they are not needed anymore
17:25:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Fugly idea for one TL4 drop off (Temp. separately.
17:26:17  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes very fuldy
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17:26:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ugly
17:26:35  <PublicServer> <mfb> really ugly
17:26:38  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Effing so.
17:26:51  <PublicServer> <mfb> could be done with more CL2
17:27:48  <PublicServer> <mfb> still ugly ;)
17:28:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, I wondered about that one.
17:28:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hhm ohh yes it does
17:28:39  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> maybe ro-ro it
17:28:55  <PublicServer> <mfb> good idea
17:29:20  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That would be better, there should be room for the other one within 64 station spread, not?
17:29:56  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Though, with RoRo, the other one might fit behind.
17:30:26  <PublicServer> <mfb> roro and train reverse? :D
17:30:40  <PublicServer> <mfb> or just movethe station some tiles
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17:31:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Don;t forget to allow of the TL2 Drop off at hte back.
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17:36:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> like that?
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17:50:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Mazur: that just will not work
17:50:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> use PBS
17:51:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> something like that
17:51:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Fine by me.
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17:52:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> now we only need trains and Buildings
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17:53:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> use full load orders will work better
17:54:22  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Never examined it closely, my idea was not to let passengers wait.
17:54:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you will loose staion % when there is such low denstiy
17:55:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> when it increase use of non full load it fine
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17:58:02  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'll go and start grouping our trains in 07.
18:01:49  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> all TL 2 now in sction
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18:18:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi.
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18:18:43  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey
18:19:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> We kicked 07 ass.
18:19:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
18:19:24  <PublicServer> <avdg> james?
18:19:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Station 07 and environs.
18:19:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> oh
18:20:00  <james_o-> What?
18:20:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> CB and I.
18:21:29  <james_o-> I built station 03
18:25:05  <PublicServer> <avdg> bleh, 2 trains 1 station?
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18:33:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> :o
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18:45:45  <Ramsus08191> !password
18:45:45  <PublicServer> Ramsus08191: cavort
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18:46:12  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> Hey
18:46:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey
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18:51:05  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> woo, we have a mainhattan >:)
18:53:07  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> is it ok for Vs Counter wave clock to cause some minorjam?
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19:08:46  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> almost reaching 2M :)
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19:49:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Btw, where are the loading indicators gome?  Haven't seen them this game.
19:49:53  <PublicServer> <avdg> ctrl+x?
19:50:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> last button
19:50:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah.
19:50:29  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Locked in wrong position somehow.
19:50:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
19:54:22  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 07 is coming along nicely.
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19:58:28  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And another Lenin statue!  Yay!
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20:21:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ooh 55k Leiden nice
20:21:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yeah, she's doing well.
20:21:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> on our way to 2 million people
20:22:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hasn't got a great transport % yet
20:22:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but I am sure it will improve
20:22:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Where do you see that?
20:22:35  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> click on the town name
20:22:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> townstats
20:22:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> then do your maths
20:23:30  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Max is waiting pax, Last Month is delivered?
20:23:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you currently transport 56%
20:23:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> max is pax the town has to offer
20:23:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> last month is what you did
20:24:46  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm sure some are waiting in the various trains around town.
20:24:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no that counts as taken
20:25:02  <PublicServer> <Mazur> k
20:25:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its the uncoverd signs I have placed
20:25:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you may want to walk them
20:25:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or use trams to get them
20:25:49  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> once it expands into you main sbahn it will improve
20:26:00  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but those regions will never get servce in the current state
20:26:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Trams have two nice hills to not run into trains.
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20:26:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Station walking is fine in the city centre
20:33:01  <sturmi> !password
20:33:01  <PublicServer> sturmi: iciest
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20:34:13  <PublicServer> <sturmi> hey
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20:49:38  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 63%.
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20:50:20  <PublicServer> <sturmi> 82% :D
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21:03:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 66%
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21:05:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Was it good for you, honey?  For me, it was as if hte world stood still.
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21:09:34  <Mazur> Ah, ping-ponging.
21:09:49  <Mazur> Slindstone Bay on 77%.
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21:15:29  <sturmi> !players
21:15:32  <PublicServer> sturmi: Client 405 (Orange) is Mazur, in company 1 (Head to Toe!)
21:15:32  <PublicServer> sturmi: Client 416 is DayDreamer, a spectator
21:15:39  <sturmi> !password
21:15:39  <PublicServer> sturmi: tattle
21:15:59  <Mazur> Ah, the relief party.
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21:16:41  <PublicServer> <sturmi> hey maz
21:17:16  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sturmi.
21:17:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Leiden is rapidly overtaking my first city.
21:17:59  <PublicServer> <sturmi> yea i see
21:18:29  <PublicServer> <sturmi> and my city will lose the top2 position soon :/
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21:19:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Still 50k to go for them.
21:20:05  <PublicServer> <sturmi> mainhattan is growing like nothing good
21:21:28  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yeah, but they cheated, pulling two quarters together.
21:21:50  <PublicServer> <sturmi> true
21:22:28  <PublicServer> <sturmi> their centers can expand freely
21:22:42  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bur well done, given the target of creaking hte record.
21:23:20  <PublicServer> <sturmi> yea only one million to go
21:24:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Leiden should do well, though, bridges started frmo hte start, and city founded between quarters.
21:24:52  <PublicServer> <sturmi> yep, should be a 300k city too
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21:32:39  <Nite> !dl
21:32:39  <PublicServer> Nite: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x
21:32:39  <PublicServer> Nite: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r21965
21:38:44  <Nite> !pw
21:38:56  <Nite> !password
21:38:56  <PublicServer> Nite: watery
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21:40:16  <Nite> !password
21:40:16  <PublicServer> Nite: revive
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21:41:12  <Nite> is my connection bad?
21:41:20  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Looks like it.
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21:41:28  <PublicServer> <Mazur> But the game is pretty big by now.
21:41:38  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 1389 trains.
21:41:47  <Nite> normally my connection rocks ...
21:41:56  <Nite> 3rd try
21:42:10  <PublicServer> <sturmi> maybe now the rocks are in your way :D
21:42:12  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No other network traffic stealing bandwidth?
21:42:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Like the porn download?
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21:43:01  <Nite> no not really
21:43:23  <Nite> but seems 1.0.5 and this client cannot run at the saem time
21:43:28  <Nite> works now
21:44:51  <PublicServer> <Nite> this is the right game for my pax fetish ;)
21:47:43  <PublicServer> <Nite> i guess the engienonly maglev slow the gaem too?
21:49:46  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I would not know.
21:49:56  <PublicServer> <Nite> i guess so
21:50:22  <PublicServer> <Nite> i like the network but not the trains
21:50:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> They can move.
21:51:15  <PublicServer> <Nite> so what
21:51:45  <PublicServer> <Nite> writing something with stationtiles is a nice idea
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21:53:33  <PublicServer> <Nite> i do not get the orders at all ;)
21:53:49  <PublicServer> <sturmi> which orders?
21:54:30  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Every section has its own pit boss, as it were.
21:54:53  <PublicServer> <Nite> pit boss?
21:55:30  <PublicServer> <Nite> ahh the names of players above them ...
21:56:05  <PublicServer> <Nite> so noone knows what routes trains do anymore ;)
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21:56:35  <PublicServer> <sturmi> i know the routes of my trains... should be enough
21:57:05  <PublicServer> <sturmi> and for some of my trains, neither i nor the trains know their route :D
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22:10:38  <Jkrueger> !password
22:10:38  <PublicServer> Jkrueger: bawled
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22:11:01  <PublicServer> <sturmi> hey JK
22:11:11  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Kroeg!
22:11:17  <PublicServer> <Jkrueger> hello all
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22:12:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You might not have seen Leiden yet.
22:13:13  <PublicServer> <Jkrueger> all done?
22:13:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Quarters are all done, maybe an odd or end needing a walked tile...
22:14:06  <PublicServer> <Jkrueger> cool whats the big road bridge for?
22:14:12  <PublicServer> <Jkrueger> just eyecandy?
22:14:22  <PublicServer> <Mazur> There are three of them, to spread the good news.
22:14:50  <PublicServer> <Jkrueger> does that spread the big buildings faster?
22:14:56  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Makes the city start suburbs ar the other end.
22:15:10  <PublicServer> <sturmi> and suburbs boost the center
22:15:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And that way you can have a spread out suburb by the time the centre reaches it with the big buildings.
22:17:12  <Chris_Booth> Mazur: how is our city going?
22:17:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> All I can tell you it has far outstripped Slindstone Bay in growth.
22:17:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 82k
22:17:39  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 83k
22:17:46  <Jkrueger> !gap
22:17:46  <PublicServer> Jkrueger: !gap <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2)
22:17:50  <PublicServer> <Mazur> once can hardly keep up with typing.
22:17:56  <Jkrueger> !gap 4 8
22:17:56  <PublicServer> Jkrueger: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 4 and gap 8.
22:18:07  <Chris_Booth> lol nice
22:18:17  <Chris_Booth> It will grow more
22:19:03  <PublicServer> <sturmi> Mazur: shoudn't the !bridge be a road bridge?
22:19:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> East side: Centre met suburb, ready to pounde on it.  West side, narrow line where they met.
22:19:36  <Jkrueger> !gap 4 10
22:19:36  <PublicServer> Jkrueger: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 4 and gap 10.
22:19:42  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Of course.
22:20:08  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Was positive I had activated that one, never looked back.
22:20:46  <PublicServer> <sturmi> who knows... maybe the people wre supposed to be pulled to the suburbs by magnetic fields
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22:21:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Welcome back.
22:22:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 69%
22:23:17  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Maybe I should make the trams go back to where they filled up after droppiong their load.
22:23:23  <PublicServer> <Jkrueger> is there away to share orders with a whole group?
22:23:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 69% is good
22:24:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just need the skyline to fill out
22:25:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 1.4 million people 1/4 of a year use our trains
22:26:09  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 2 million!
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22:26:31  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 2/3 of the way there
22:26:47  <V453000> evening :)
22:26:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> V.
22:26:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi V453000
22:27:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you arrive at the stats reading
22:27:06  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Made you a little nice suprise.
22:27:08  <PublicServer> <sturmi> if the game doesnt lag out, the 3million should be no problem
22:27:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> is anyone here getting big lag yet?
22:27:29  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not a smidgen.
22:27:33  <PublicServer> <sturmi> only when i zoom out
22:27:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I am not a good yard stick since I am playing on a server
22:28:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> full zoom this beast is only running 13% of its core
22:28:09  <V453000> !info
22:28:09  <PublicServer> V453000: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Head to Toe!'  Year Founded: 2427  Money: 80242878952  Loan: 0  Value: 80259175215  (T:1389, R:139, P:0, S:0) unprotected
22:28:12  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Zoomed out gets a tad slower, yes.
22:28:36  <PublicServer> <sturmi> i watch TV on the other screen, so the performance is limited :D
22:28:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> sturmi: no it isn't don't worry
22:29:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> TV gets all the cores it need if you have atleast 3 cores
22:29:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> since openttd only uses 1
22:29:18  <PublicServer> <sturmi> i have 2
22:29:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and your kernal will sort it out the openttd gets what is need
22:29:30  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 102% zoomed out on the most build up area.
22:29:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> well 1 for tv and 1 for openttd should be fine
22:29:34  <V453000> !password for me!
22:29:34  <PublicServer> V453000: tonics
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22:29:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi there :)
22:30:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Lo V.
22:30:10  <PublicServer> <sturmi> hey V
22:30:40  <PublicServer> <Mazur> We started a new city from 26 people.
22:30:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hopefully Leiden will beat Chudinghall by the end
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22:31:05  <V453000> ._.
22:31:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> to much lag V?
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22:31:32  <V453000> nah, most liely the wifi
22:31:42  <V453000> but sure the lag plays some role
22:31:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> WIFI is bad for openttd
22:32:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, my wifi at home has no problems at all, but wifi here does :)
22:33:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> city + grow bridges = strange shap
22:33:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> well you can see what did deletion of grow bridge do with Fort Dronwood :)
22:33:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> the city shrunk a lot
22:33:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes
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22:34:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that is why you keep them
22:34:15  <V453000> ugly ;)
22:34:21  <V453000> but yea, could restore it
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22:35:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 7 unbuilt areas
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22:36:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> We build the west half and the expansion bridges first, then started the city in a confine.
22:37:06  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Then build the eastern half.
22:37:26  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not sure at which point we broke the confines.
22:38:16  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Is our growth slowing down?
22:38:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no
22:38:54  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just a temp state
22:39:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I agree.
22:39:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as town replaces smaller buiding with bier ones
22:39:17  <PublicServer> <sturmi> bier? good idea
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22:39:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> They do?  Usually they rebuild with the same building, at least at Slindstone Bay.
22:39:56  <PublicServer> <Mazur> What will they think of next...
22:40:24  <PublicServer> <sturmi> mazur, we already agreed that the slindstone people are stuoid
22:40:58  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And, by inference, I.  As i build it.
22:41:14  <PublicServer> <sturmi> you said that :p
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22:41:30  <Nite> cya
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22:41:40  <PublicServer> <sturmi> good nite nite
22:41:42  <PublicServer> <Mazur> BYe, nite.
22:43:58  <V453000> gnight
22:44:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> night al
22:44:22  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I have to be up early tomorrow
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22:44:28  <PublicServer> <sturmi> cu
22:44:32  <Chris_Booth> night V453000
22:48:27  <PublicServer> <Mazur> The trams aren't taking it.  It needs a bit rethinking.
22:50:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh.  Sleep well, CB.
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