Log for #openttdcoop on 16th February 2011:
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00:43:51  <CyberSoul> 4.5M and rising
00:44:53  <CyberSoul> Rutway off to a good start, though I wish I realized rename would be grayed out when I founded it.... or I would have called it Napa before creating it
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01:29:10  <Mazur> !password
01:29:10  <PublicServer> Mazur: moused
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01:29:45  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> wb maz
01:30:13  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yeah, dropped off there for a minute.
01:31:07  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> i have a race condition in my station prios, they will have to go... too bad, they work awesome in the solo bay version
01:31:26  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> but 2 bays can jam sadly
01:31:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Where?
01:32:16  <CyberSoul> in 18, wine country
01:33:57  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> i had prio through the tunnels, but if a train enters and leaves at the exact same time, there was a jam
01:34:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hm, yes.
01:35:16  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> you fix all the cor stations yet?
01:36:00  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I did part of one row, mfb did most of them, but I think they are all done.
01:36:32  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> I was working on they network itself a litte... still teetering on 50%
01:36:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm currently doing a city run to see of they are are well behaved in pecentages.
01:38:04  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> a city run, percentages, dont quite follow?
01:38:45  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Running along the city centres, checking het twon viw window for the percentage of passngers transported.
01:39:56  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> ah, how is section 3 btw? in the 70's still?
01:40:18  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Close, 67%.
01:40:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Gods, how I love this patch  giving the paercentages themselves in hte city vieew window.
01:40:55  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> so much better than when it was struggling to hit 44 :P
01:41:25  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> yeah, I should get that
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01:41:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, Sylf and I fixed it good.
01:41:42  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sector 3, that is.
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01:43:45  <CyberSoul> what needs work? wine country looks good, minus the prios now
01:43:45  <Mazur>
01:44:00  <Mazur> Coruscant, still.  49%
01:44:45  <CyberSoul> the patch link doesn't seem to work
01:45:19  <Mazur> It's an as yet uinofficial and unreleased patch, so you're on your own with the openttd version if you apply it.
01:45:26  <Mazur>
01:46:20  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> yeah, used to source code, running gentoo :)
01:48:30  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, an old style column.
01:52:45  <Sylf> !password
01:52:45  <PublicServer> Sylf: betcha
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01:53:11  <PublicServer> <Sylf> 'lo
01:53:22  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> heyo sylf
01:53:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, Sylp.
01:54:18  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Fixing a dud row in Coruscant.
01:56:18  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> i may be able to fit one more transfer station in at coruscant
01:57:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> There are five platform,s now.
01:57:44  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> yeah, could add a sixth at the end
01:58:00  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> if i shift the second to last row back one
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01:58:45  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You mean Station 1272?
01:59:40  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> no just the platform near the added signals sign
02:00:13  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Why did you add those signals, by the way?
02:00:45  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Were things jamming?
02:01:03  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> cause it was a big dead signal zone at the time, was holding up the first 2 platforms
02:02:08  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, you see, the very first signal of that station is a PBS, if the area to _all_ the platforms is free, trains will be let in with certainly a free platform for them.
02:02:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Free of signals, that is.  Now they pick a platform and have to wait for it to get free.
02:03:12  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Possibly blocking another platform in hte process.
02:05:40  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That was what was happening at the time, trains would wait for the two-way of hte fourth platform, while the fifth opened up.
02:09:10  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> was in the middle of station surgery, will look back at your messages now :P
02:09:58  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Seee, now 4 and 5 are free, but thre train wanting 6 blocks them.
02:10:25  <CyberSoul> yeah, i only add the signals on station exit
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02:11:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ok, I'm going to fic hte entrance again.
02:11:30  <CyberSoul> there was a big signal gap behind the raised station 19
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02:11:59  <CyberSoul> i think it was totally unintentional, cause it was all one way in the exit, but with a random 15 time signal gap
02:12:05  <CyberSoul> 15 tile*
02:12:47  <CyberSoul> just cause you couldn't see if there were signal or not, because the main platform at 19 blocks that area
02:13:11  <PublicServer> <Mazur> The exits _must have a signals on the first piece of track after the platform, or they'll block other trains trying to leave.
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02:13:57  <CyberSoul> of course
02:14:12  <PublicServer> <Mazur> There were two of them gone.
02:15:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, damn.
02:15:44  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> what?
02:16:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Nothing mahor, but a change in building style made me align the new set-up wrong.
02:17:32  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> the drop is working well now, gj
02:20:42  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> why does 1265 have 5 trains, the extras are jaming the network?
02:21:26  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Two people working simulaaneously doing the same thing?
02:21:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bad checking of facts?
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02:22:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Just arrange for the surplus to be run out of town.
02:22:55  <CyberSoul> hrm seems like a wierd automatic order to load (not full) is there
02:23:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> One mo
02:25:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 1265 is allwoed a second one.
02:25:50  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It has a waiting bay.
02:26:12  <CyberSoul> yeah turns out it had 1 real one, and 10 with automatic wierd orders
02:27:18  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, there is or are trains about without regular orders, I think.
02:27:44  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And for some reason they apparently chose that station.
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02:29:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, automatic orders are including the station in other train's orders.
02:29:26  <CyberSoul> thats one part of ttd still new to me, how do the automatic orders get added? where do u set them up?
02:29:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No Non-stop to the dropoff., that is the error.
02:30:16  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> yeah, that makes sense
02:31:12  <CyberSoul> none of the orders are non-stop, that should help tremedously
02:31:57  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It should sop as soon as they all are non-stop.
02:32:59  <PublicServer> <Mazur> hey,. and what do you know, suddenly, the percentage is skyrocketing to 67%
02:33:21  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> thats what i meant by help tremendously
02:33:44  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Wrong City View.
02:33:54  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> lol
02:34:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 43%
02:34:10  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> still adding non-stop to a lot of them
02:34:44  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, missing piece of track.
02:35:08  <PublicServer> <Mazur> The whole row was forced to go through 1265.
02:35:26  <PublicServer> <Mazur> This should really help the %
02:35:53  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> and that row sometimes back up all the way to the drop exit
02:36:07  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> which is why i was looking there
02:36:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> ok, on with the motley.
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02:49:11  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> wow, they other side is gonna be bad later too, only 3 drop platforms that i see
02:50:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> If you don;t mind, I'll slwoly and quietly rebuild this last station here first.
02:51:21  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Doesn;t help, that the ruddy city keeps trying to build on land I've just cleared for building.
02:52:03  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> yeah, close to the city center you have to buy it immediately lol
02:52:45  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And I prefer not to make mistakes, so now I'm pounishiung them by removing more than I need and purchasing the land, tunill I'm good and done.
02:55:13  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> the drop station is flowing well, but its still seems to be the  bottleneck
02:56:17  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> station catchment starts 4 squares away, so it may make sense to enlarge that area?
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03:00:28  <Ramsus08191> !password
03:00:28  <PublicServer> Ramsus08191: seated
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03:02:11  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Which area?
03:04:40  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You're right, that could be a tile longer tunnel.
03:04:52  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No waiting area for those, no signal needed.
03:05:23  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> actually raising the platform to give the city more space
03:05:42  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah.
03:05:46  <PublicServer> <Mazur> k
03:07:02  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> and tunnel the other side
03:07:13  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Look at !this.
03:07:29  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Now why is that even happening?
03:07:37  <Razaekel> omw
03:07:39  <PublicServer> <Mazur> PBS bug?
03:08:03  <Razaekel> !password
03:08:03  <PublicServer> Razaekel: seated
03:08:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It's a fscking two-way red, and he's into it!
03:08:30  <Razaekel> !password
03:08:30  <PublicServer> Razaekel: seated
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03:09:26  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> gosh, my pc catn handle this XD:
03:09:38  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> mien is chugging
03:09:40  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> mine*
03:09:42  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> D:*
03:11:04  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> oh well, I guess its over for me for this map :), someone finish the square from station 6
03:11:22  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> how much is the world pop?
03:11:28  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 4.5
03:11:44  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> woot, new record :)
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03:12:09  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> yeah we should hit 10 or so if we last that long lol
03:12:23  <Ramsus08191> heh, how much trains? 3k?
03:13:16  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> only 2.1k
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03:13:29  <Ramsus08191> D:
03:13:39  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yea, it rapes
03:14:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, dear, West side transfer is totally completely utterly fucked up signalled.
03:14:42  <Ramsus08191> oh well, c ya guys
03:14:52  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> cya ramsus
03:14:58  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wait what, maz?
03:14:58  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bye.
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03:15:22  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Fixed, I think.
03:15:24  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> there was a reason for the backwards signals
03:15:26  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> >.<
03:15:32  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> since im the one that put them there
03:15:42  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, a bad reason.
03:15:53  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> unless they changed the penalty for those
03:15:55  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> yeah west side is going to be in trouble with only 3 drop platforms
03:16:01  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> there's 5
03:16:11  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> even east side is struggling with 6
03:16:25  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> not like we have loads of space
03:16:27  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Razaekel: How is an exit signal for a platform going to work if there is another signal between it and the platform?
03:16:42  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> its either exit signals or pbs
03:16:44  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> pick one
03:17:20  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Don;t tell me, tell whoever signalled that.
03:17:58  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I only removed some 10 penalty PBS signals that fscked up the station.
03:18:08  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> eh well
03:18:11  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> we'll see how it goes
03:19:44  <PublicServer> <Mazur> hey, look, we;re at 50% again.
03:19:50  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> huzzah
03:22:25  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> oy
03:22:42  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You might want to kep those.
03:23:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, you;re changin to path.
03:23:07  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> pbs, yea
03:23:30  <PublicServer> <Mazur> In that case, put a one-way PBS at the very start of the station, and nothing anymore to any postform.
03:23:38  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no
03:23:52  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> this way there's waiting space in front of each pbs signal
03:24:35  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i'll demo, you buy
03:24:40  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> k
03:25:28  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> catchment stops 4 squares away so we can go another row or 2 even
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03:26:02  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> we could do a full-on double roro
03:26:14  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no space at the end to make the turn, tho
03:28:22  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001941F:
03:29:48  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> nice, that should give enough space i think
03:30:31  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> lets see if we actually have enough
03:32:23  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ok, we can get 10 platforms
03:32:29  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> eh, 11
03:32:35  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no, 10
03:32:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur> So, where are you towo, now?
03:32:37  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> nvm
03:32:43  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> east side
03:33:06  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> better station, means we can get enough trains to service east side
03:33:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I see.
03:33:48  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> heh
03:33:50  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> my bad
03:33:52  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hence the jam.
03:33:54  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> lemme tweak a bit
03:35:18  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> not done yet
03:35:37  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> quit signalling
03:35:39  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> geez
03:36:00  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> lol, its not me
03:36:06  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sorry, I didn't think _that_ would interfere.
03:36:18  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> im trying to maximize the braking space
03:37:07  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> now you can signal
03:37:14  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> pbs on the front
03:37:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oops.
03:38:01  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> >.>
03:39:45  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> this effing lag
03:41:25  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> bypass the second row again and you can fit 2-3 more
03:41:54  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> could
03:42:19  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no, would only get 1 more
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03:43:44  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> could get another by back the second row up one and still have enough room for signals, less breaking space though
03:44:00  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> eh
03:44:02  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> this should be good
03:44:35  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> yeah much better, probably gonna be network limited now anyway
03:45:06  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> why is there a prio?
03:45:20  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the trains in row 4 are never gonna get out
03:45:36  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> just ends up being one big merge with no one moving otherwise
03:46:20  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> disconnect the head piece of each and check it out :)
03:46:30  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> eh
03:46:49  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> heh
03:46:51  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 40$
03:46:55  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> er, 40%
03:48:33  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> wow, was gonna add trains, but the network is flowing so the passengers are naturally decreasing
03:48:43  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> seriously, there's like no way to get to like 90%, right?
03:49:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 86%
03:50:36  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> where is that 86%?
03:50:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> But that one is way smaller.  Slindstone Suburb
03:50:39  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ah
03:51:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> But it works with 3 separated tracks per quarter.
03:52:06  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Each with private drop.
03:53:39  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Coruscant: 55%
03:54:17  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Beer York: 68%, still.
03:55:22  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 2 fps
03:55:25  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> at best
03:55:39  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> and i thought my computer was pretty powerful
03:55:56  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Mine's running no problem, now.
03:56:09  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> what processor?
03:56:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Interl quad Core2 2.40
03:56:29  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> huh
03:56:33  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> Q6600?
03:57:27  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yep.
03:57:31  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> same here
03:57:33  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> huh
03:57:47  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ram?
03:58:08  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yeah, got some of that, too.
03:58:22  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001D82F:
03:59:19  <Mazur> total RAM covered: 8192M
03:59:30  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> same as mine
03:59:30  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> again
04:00:17  <Razaekel> my computer could use a reboot, tho
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04:01:18  <Mazur> I as well, I is fatigué
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04:01:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> but I can wait for Rax to reappear.
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04:07:39  <Razaekel> !players
04:07:41  <PublicServer> Razaekel: Client 66 (Orange) is Mazur, in company 1 (Head to Toe!)
04:07:41  <PublicServer> Razaekel: Client 54 (Orange) is CyberSoul, in company 1 (Head to Toe!)
04:08:26  <Razaekel> !password
04:08:27  <PublicServer> Razaekel: choked
04:09:22  <CyberSoul> wow
04:09:27  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, don;'t be shy.
04:09:48  <Razaekel> !password
04:09:48  <PublicServer> Razaekel: choked
04:10:30  <Razaekel> it is being super slow for some reason
04:10:43  <Razaekel> yea, failed
04:10:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Anyway,. I am tired and off to bed.
04:10:58  <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving)
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04:11:16  <Mazur> Have you check your network load while off from OTTD?
04:11:59  <Razaekel> yea, failed
04:12:01  <Razaekel> !password
04:12:01  <PublicServer> Razaekel: choked
04:12:22  <Razaekel> !password
04:12:22  <PublicServer> Razaekel: choked
04:12:34  <Razaekel> thjat's be
04:12:36  <Razaekel> better
04:12:37  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
04:13:07  <Mazur> Sometimes I find I have a browser script loading stuff, that I wasn;t aware of, or some other network program occupying my bandwidth.
04:13:20  <Mazur> As I said, Have fnu, I'm off.
04:13:22  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00024B44:
04:13:29  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> later maz
04:13:31  <Razaekel> bah
04:16:13  <CyberSoul> time to eat, i'll stay logged in so you can play if you manage to get in raz
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04:24:32  <Razaekel> nah
04:24:34  <Razaekel> it's fine
04:24:40  <Razaekel> log off if you want
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07:28:55  <CyberSoul> !password
07:28:55  <PublicServer> CyberSoul: choked
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09:09:30  <PublicServer> ppetak: choked
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14:29:58  <Mazur> In a minute.
14:30:00  <Mazur> :-)
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14:30:17  <Jkrueger> was just checking on gratburg
14:30:23  <Jkrueger> have to go to classes now
14:30:29  <Mazur> That threast to much for you.
14:30:32  <Mazur> Ok.
14:30:35  <Mazur> BYe.
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15:05:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi.,
15:05:49  <PublicServer> <ppetak> hola
15:09:57  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Coruscant narrowly on the good side of 50%.
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15:11:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Garfingley convincingly on the good side: 67%.
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15:28:15  <Nuru> hi.:D
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15:32:39  <Mazur> Hello.
15:36:08  <Nuru> only Transport Tycon?
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15:50:42  <Mazur> Open Trandport Tycoom Deluxe.
15:50:49  <Mazur> -typos.
15:51:06  <Mazur> Have to run to eht shops, back in half an hour.
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15:53:49  <V453000> I think the official name is only OpenTTD, not translating as the Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe, but I am not sure there ... just think I heard
15:53:55  <V453000> not like it matters
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16:06:33  <planetmaker> V453000, it matters in terms of trademarks
16:06:51  <V453000> yes :)
16:06:55  <planetmaker> The official name is OpenTTD as TTD in TTD and no letter more ;-)
16:07:08  <V453000> :)
16:07:20  <V453000> I rather meant it doesnt matter in our tiny discussion there :p
16:08:03  <planetmaker> well... then you could as well play TTDP or TTD then ;-)
16:08:21  <planetmaker> also I'm missing your vote on the title game competition
16:08:28  <planetmaker> (as if it mattered :-P )
16:08:54  <planetmaker> or as if it were related to the topic of this discussion ;-)
16:09:36  <ppetak> which title in game competition did you found interesting?
16:09:50  <ppetak> I personally like 25 :)
16:10:06  <ppetak> game title competition of course :)
16:10:17  <planetmaker> did you vote then? ;-)
16:10:47  <planetmaker> well, you should make up your mind about the 2nd and 3rd best, too ;-)
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16:12:02  <PublicServer> sharpy: pitted
16:12:05  <ppetak> not yet.
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16:12:30  <planetmaker> well, still plenty of time :-)
16:12:48  <planetmaker> but don't complain if it's the wrong when you didn't vote ;-)
16:12:58  <ppetak> I have some cancidates, which I like from static picture, and now I have to look at them at gameplay .. so .. :)
16:13:16  <planetmaker> ah. That's a sound decision making. I like that :-)
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16:34:41  <V453000> guss I could look into that :)
16:37:14  <V453000> that Rammar is funny :)
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16:47:20  * ^Spike^ looked and only liked a few.. but voting is too much work :)
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17:32:04  <V453000> did our very own Sylf make the title game with some newest nightly ? :D
17:32:30  <PublicServer> <ppetak> why?
17:32:50  <V453000> because it cannot be opened in 1.1.0 beta
17:33:04  <V453000> idk if the .dat is readable
17:33:16  <PublicServer> <ppetak> hmmm .. which one is from Sylf?
17:33:24  <planetmaker> V453000, it works with trunk, yes
17:34:04  <V453000> that the opntitle.dat can be made with newer version? or that his savegame works only with trunk? :)
17:36:05  <planetmaker> the savegame of Sylf loads nicely with current trunk
17:36:32  <planetmaker> and yes, it was the reason I had to re-compile my screenshot generation version :-)
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18:10:01  <Mazur> !password
18:10:01  <PublicServer> Mazur: bonier
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18:11:24  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Wb, CS.
18:11:54  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> heyo Maz
18:12:00  <PublicServer> <ppetak> hola
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19:12:54  <PublicServer> <ppetak> :)
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19:42:09  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Brb.
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20:13:48  <Mazur> !password
20:13:48  <PublicServer> Mazur: foible
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20:14:15  <Mazur> Too rtue.
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21:10:47  <V453000> !password
21:10:47  <PublicServer> V453000: skewed
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21:11:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
21:11:53  <PublicServer> <CyberSoul> heyo V
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21:13:20  <V453000> uhm :)
21:13:28  <Mazur> Yes?
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21:13:43  <Mazur> Proof:
21:14:04  <V453000> btw who is responsible for 11 Sbahn
21:14:22  <V453000> the rail, to be exact
21:14:47  <V453000> Coruscant has too low % :(
21:14:51  <Mazur> I think it was ppetak.
21:14:58  <SmatZ> some towns were not cities - did it have any impact on the results?
21:15:11  <V453000> SmatZ: no
21:15:15  <V453000> TTRS ignores that
21:15:16  <SmatZ> ok :)
21:15:22  <SmatZ> interesting
21:15:29  <V453000> ppetak: around?
21:15:30  <SmatZ> I didn't know newgrfs can do that
21:15:58  <Mazur> Coruscant sways from 49 to 53%,
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21:16:05  <V453000> yea, now barely
21:16:07  <V453000> hm
21:16:25  <V453000> that is a very bad Sbahn :)
21:17:00  <V453000> although you could cheat it a bit
21:17:09  <V453000> for the sake of progress :)
21:17:19  <V453000> just walk two or more stations together
21:17:32  <V453000> to make a train wait in them more often
21:17:44  <Mazur> I can redo that shot, btw, when Coruscant is on the good side of 50%.  And put hte townviews in Station  order or alphabetically.
21:17:59  <Mazur> And wait for hte message window to clear.
21:18:03  <Mazur> :-)
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21:18:47  <V453000> it is okay even if it had 40%, the game is still a success, but it would be nicer if it had 60% because then we could say we have 60% or more everywhere :)
21:18:58  <Mazur> Yes.
21:19:04  <ppetak> V: eating at the moment .. in few minutes
21:19:09  <Mazur> We did rather well oberall on that count.
21:19:39  <Mazur> Some even are (still) in the eighties!
21:20:01  <V453000> the old record was burnt to ash, so some few % cant bother us too much :p
21:20:06  <V453000> @records
21:20:06  <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 24 | Trains: 2001 (PSG#186) - 2522 (PZG#5) - ( 3000 (PSG#180) logic net) | Single cargo type output: 200,169 (PZG#13) | World Pop: 3,075,319 (PSG#101) 
21:20:20  <Mazur> Done and half done again.
21:20:34  <V453000> mainly having all the pax transported, that just puts it into a different league :)
21:20:51  <Mazur> Pity about the ML, though.
21:21:06  <V453000> well, at least we know that we can get it better
21:21:16  <Mazur> Yes.
21:21:54  <V453000> but ehm ... I think I do not want to see a game like this for a long time :)
21:22:04  <V453000> it would not be very entertaining imo
21:22:13  <Mazur> Not right away again, no.
21:22:26  <Mazur> BUt it is a good study of Sbahns.
21:22:59  <V453000> for sure
21:23:06  <CyberSoul> Cor is fixable, if garfingley can be fixed then anything can :)
21:23:11  <V453000> I dont think we ever had that many types together
21:23:44  <Mazur> Erm, Garingly and Sylf and I to fix it.
21:23:48  <Mazur> +f
21:23:58  <CyberSoul> The east side of Cor is in pretty good shape, only needs better station exit flow and more trains
21:24:26  <V453000> if you want to fill sector around station 14, feel free to delete the crap there, including the network plan
21:24:31  <Mazur> Perhaps separated columns.
21:24:36  <V453000> network plan can be placed to the archive
21:24:40  <Mazur> Ok.
21:24:55  <V453000> if would be actually nice if you did fill even that area :)
21:25:59  <Mazur> I had an idea, with a passing by tunnel underneath the station, but you end up with two tiles out of catchment, so I scrapped it.
21:26:27  <Mazur> And too few signals, even then.
21:26:35  <V453000> the more filled, the better
21:26:41  <CyberSoul> Ramsus comp couldn't handle the game, so I am working on completing 6 and will found a town to fill a lot of the empty grids there when the sbahn is ready
21:27:33  <V453000> btw more ML trains are probably needed
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21:42:36  <ppetak> V453000: I'm back
21:42:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I am sure that has made his day ppetak
21:43:08  <V453000> ppetak: read the plan, and then look at the Sbahn
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21:43:58  <V453000> and also have a thought about how does the game lag, and about vehicle efficiency
21:44:08  <PublicServer> <ppetak> yes ..
21:44:36  <PublicServer> <ppetak> sorry for my setup on 11 :) I'm a little bored. I assume you mean my spiral ..
21:44:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I am still not understadning this lag the people are talking about
21:45:19  <V453000> besides that I rather mean that you use rail vehicles instead of the transrapid which is extremely powerful
21:45:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I am keeping out of this one
21:46:18  <V453000> yes, the same applies for you but you just need to break rules
21:46:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I just wanted my steamers
21:46:47  <PublicServer> <ppetak>  it has to be old fashioned part of SBahn, and in the case of capacity problem transformed to maglev.
21:46:49  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you can't even seem them if you don't go to Chudinghall
21:47:12  <V453000> ppetak: there are still running X engines. There could be much less
21:47:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ppetak please don't make V453000 angry
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21:48:03  <V453000> you dont even talk, I believe it is you who made him build it :) because he seen yours and realized "hey, rules dont apply"
21:48:14  <PublicServer> <ppetak> there are approx 3-4 trains going around and waiting for prey :)
21:48:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> V453000 I can remove mine if it would make ppetak remove his
21:49:14  <V453000> I would kindly ask you to do so
21:49:16  <PublicServer> <ppetak> hmm.. you are right partly. i have seen you two discussing about Steam SBahn on 01
21:49:17  <V453000> both of you of course
21:50:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Stoped my steamers
21:50:13  <PublicServer> <ppetak> in my case both 11-F and 11-S?
21:50:20  <PublicServer> <ppetak> :D
21:50:26  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> all steamers
21:50:33  <V453000> rather replace than stop
21:50:50  <PublicServer> <ppetak> oooh, you cruer emperor!
21:50:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the trams do there job
21:50:56  <PublicServer> <ppetak> cruel
21:50:59  <V453000> there dont need to be the trams then
21:53:37  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> bye bye steamer hills
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21:55:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> now new expensive flats will replace those old lines
21:56:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> pushing up Chudinghall's population
21:56:49  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ppetak I am sure you have been asked to delete those steamres
21:57:15  <PublicServer> <ppetak> dont' worry, I'm working on it :/
21:57:45  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Don't worry.  Be hippy!
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22:01:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Chudinghall better grow more than 240k now
22:02:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> If not, refill Steamer hills with regular Sbahn.
22:03:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It's an option.
22:03:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> doesn't need it I had to cover steamer hills with stations in the first place
22:03:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as the steamers where shit
22:03:37  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it allready has 100% coverage
22:04:11  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And that area in the NE of that sector?
22:04:26  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> where?
22:04:58  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ohh that
22:05:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I am never going to build that
22:05:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It's your show.
22:05:39  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> not until Chudinghall Station #583 is working
22:05:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> since that is just to far from centre
22:06:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> if you wanted to grow De Kooi onto it
22:06:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and send the pax to 01 I wouldnt mind
22:06:29  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm good.
22:06:59  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Av erybody wants a piece of Leiden.
22:07:17  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Leiden/de Kooi.
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22:09:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I allready has a piece of them
22:10:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I was your sex slave while you built them :p
22:10:40  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah,was that you!  I didn't recognise you without the leather mask.
22:11:41  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Btw, I think we forgot Gulpener for a beer Station.
22:12:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> add it then
22:12:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, and bad news (for some) Heineklen is looking to raise their prices to compensate for higher prices for the ingredients.
22:12:57  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no one drink that nasty toxic beer anyway
22:13:15  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I do.
22:13:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok good for you
22:13:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> If there is no Other pilsener.
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22:13:33  <V453000> I drink it only in cases of absolute crisis, like when I am in the fucking spain
22:13:41  <PublicServer> <ppetak> :)
22:13:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I only drink it when it is the only beer
22:13:58  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> like when I am out clubing
22:14:10  <V453000> I only drink it when it is the only beer <- which basically applies for Spain :)
22:14:16  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but since I don't drink like I used to I haven't drunk it
22:15:10  <Mazur> It's generally the only beer delivery services have.
22:15:21  <Mazur> Like with take-out food.
22:15:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ooh take outs can't sell beer in the UK
22:15:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they need special licences
22:16:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> which cost ££££
22:16:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> only time they sell beer is if they have a reseraunt as well
22:16:38  <Mazur> Here they generally have.
22:16:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> where is here?
22:16:56  <SmatZ> CB: that sucks
22:17:01  <Mazur> NL.
22:17:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> wounds like a good place to be
22:17:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I know SmatZ tell the government
22:17:38  <Mazur> Take-out places are usually restaurants, which also have tak-out service.
22:17:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I was shocked to see McDonalds sold beer in Europe
22:18:06  <SmatZ> -> UK is not Europe :)
22:18:13  <Mazur> I'd be shocked if they didn't.
22:18:17  <SmatZ> :)
22:18:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> well don't come to the UK
22:18:48  <Mazur> Why not?  I never use McD anyway.
22:19:01  <Mazur> Not enough quality.
22:19:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that is very true
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22:29:41  <V453000> McBeer?
22:29:47  <SmatZ> hello
22:29:49  <V453000> finally the TRUE HAPPY meal?
22:29:58  <V453000> :D hi.
22:30:26  <PublicServer> <ppetak> I'm consuming mcWine at the moment :)
22:31:38  <Chris_Booth> mcWine Scottish wine aka Whiskey
22:32:06  <Mazur> McAllan, please.
22:32:37  <Mazur> If you have it, barkeep.
22:33:21  <Mazur> Otherwise any other Whiskey ot Wiskey will do.  Except the B. stuff, which id ont right.
22:33:24  <Mazur> is not
22:34:05  <Chris_Booth> I only have 25 year oak aged Glenfiddich
22:34:10  <Chris_Booth> my Fav
22:35:05  <PublicServer> <ppetak> hmm, sounds great!
22:37:21  <Chris_Booth> ooh it is a great bottle but not cheap
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22:44:38  <PublicServer> <ppetak> Understand. I like such old (and not cheap) rums.
22:45:01  <PublicServer> <ppetak> I have 23 yrs old Zapata rum
22:46:31  <PublicServer> <ppetak> first steam SBahn converted ..
22:46:34  <PublicServer> <ppetak> uff
22:47:08  <PublicServer> <ppetak> Second one will not look good in maglev ..
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22:50:44  <V453000> this game is not about looking good ;)
22:51:18  <V453000> anyway, good night
22:51:42  <Mazur> Sleep well.
22:52:09  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's also a method.
22:52:28  <PublicServer> <ppetak> good night
22:58:31  <Chris_Booth> I was just looking on other servers to try and find a good place to build, and found nothing nice to look at
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