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00:09:17 <TroyMcClure> remark: none RV's in the stable (with FIRS) seem to be able to carry alcohol 00:10:18 <TroyMcClure> afraid of drinking and driving? 00:13:40 <perk11> lol 00:20:20 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop 00:21:07 *** TroyMcClure has quit IRC 00:25:08 *** Vinnie has quit IRC 00:29:28 *** Fuco has quit IRC 00:30:51 *** Sylf has quit IRC 00:32:08 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop 00:32:29 *** Vinnie has joined #openttdcoop 00:39:39 *** lych has joined #openttdcoop 01:18:46 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 01:22:33 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 01:39:35 *** lych has quit IRC 01:40:15 *** lych has joined #openttdcoop 01:44:29 *** perk11 has quit IRC 01:52:38 *** pugi has quit IRC 03:19:30 <Sylf> !password 03:19:30 <PublicServer> Sylf: milked 03:19:39 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 03:19:39 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 03:23:37 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 03:24:01 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 03:24:02 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 03:27:43 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 03:35:25 *** thgergo has quit IRC 04:52:17 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 05:10:24 *** Chrill has joined #openttdcoop 05:26:40 <Guvnor> !players 05:26:42 <PublicServer> Guvnor: There are currently no clients connected to the server 05:37:45 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 05:38:18 *** Mark_ has joined #openttdcoop 05:38:38 *** Mark_ is now known as Mark 05:52:33 *** Mark has quit IRC 06:00:02 *** CyberSoul has joined #openttdcoop 06:00:18 <CyberSoul> !players 06:00:21 <PublicServer> CyberSoul: There are currently no clients connected to the server 06:18:04 *** Chrill has quit IRC 06:26:06 *** Firartix has quit IRC 06:27:00 *** Intexon_ has joined #openttdcoop 06:29:21 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop 06:30:10 *** lugo- has joined #openttdcoop 06:31:30 *** JamesG has quit IRC 06:31:30 *** PeterT has quit IRC 06:31:30 *** lugo has quit IRC 06:31:30 *** Intexon has quit IRC 06:31:30 *** Born_Acorn has quit IRC 06:31:30 *** orudge has quit IRC 06:31:30 *** PeterT_ is now known as PeterT 06:31:33 *** orudge has joined #openttdcoop 06:31:57 *** JamesG has joined #openttdcoop 06:42:59 *** Born_Acorn has joined #openttdcoop 06:53:40 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 06:53:47 <CyberSoul> @info 06:53:51 <CyberSoul> !info 06:53:51 <PublicServer> CyberSoul: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'PSG 202' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 15783867684 Loan: 0 Value: 15791374243 (T:1442, R:0, P:1, S:0) unprotected 06:55:22 *** Progman has quit IRC 06:58:59 <Guvnor> !players 06:59:01 <PublicServer> Guvnor: There are currently no clients connected to the server 08:06:29 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 08:10:51 *** Mucht has joined #openttdcoop 08:18:02 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 08:21:54 <V453000> @stage Finalizing 08:21:54 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG202 (r22148) | STAGE: Finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | English only" 08:31:09 <rane> here's a question 08:31:29 <rane> i often see in different people's savegames and tutorials they build little "X"s on their mainlines 08:31:40 <rane> to allow trains to switch between right and left lane every once in a while 08:32:04 <rane> i don't see that in coop networks, so how do you let trains change lanes? :-) 08:39:30 <V453000> question back: why would you ever let trains change lanes? :) 08:39:43 <rane> if they are on the left lane 08:39:48 <V453000> the only reason would be to make them jam :) 08:39:53 <rane> and there's exit from right lane i want them to switch to right lane 08:40:16 <rane> at the same time trains on right lane should be allowed to skip to left one if train in front of them is trying to slow them down 08:40:18 <V453000> yes, that is very improper building. We _ALWAYS_ provide exits from _ALL_ lines 08:40:28 <rane> OH 08:40:32 <V453000> no trains slow down each other :) 08:40:35 <rane> but that's hard! 08:40:41 <V453000> it isnt 08:40:52 <V453000> actually making the exits is probably the easiest thing in coop 08:42:00 <rane> which brings my another question 08:42:03 <V453000> btw that is probably the very base of balanced traffic. When you provide all exits everywhere, you can then let trains choose whichever line they want (whichever line is empty) 08:42:19 <rane> i typically leave 4 tiles space between tracks so it's like LL----RR 08:42:33 <rane> is that enough space to make T4s skip the mainline from both lanes? 08:42:53 <V453000> what do you mean? 08:42:59 <rane> i always feel they are too close 08:43:02 <Ammler> V453000: we made once a full pbs game, where we used such a similar system 08:43:21 <V453000> Ammler: I fortunately do not know :D 08:43:25 <Ammler> but I guess, that was before pbs hit trunk 08:43:27 <rane> so i can't really cross to the other side of the mainline to join the traffic in the middle 08:43:49 <rane> bottom line is i should take a closer look at exits and entrances from average supply stations into mainlines;-) 08:43:59 <V453000> why not? .) tunnel one of the mainline lines and you get access to it 08:44:17 <rane> you said no tunnels on mainline! 08:44:25 <V453000> who did 08:44:26 <Ammler> no single tunnel 08:44:27 <rane> but then again, i can double tunnels 08:44:38 <V453000> lol, of course double 08:44:42 <rane> which i learnt the other day from Vinnie:-) 08:44:53 <rane> so how much space is enough between LL and RR? 08:45:02 <V453000> as much as you need :) depends 08:45:03 <rane> 4 tiles? 6? 08:45:34 <Ammler> rane: just check some screens or saves 08:45:34 <V453000> it just changes the ways how you build the hub, but all of the numbers make it possible to build the hub 08:45:45 <Ammler> there are lot of examples with different systems 08:45:54 <V453000> ^ 08:46:24 <Ammler> best is, if you find your own :-) 08:46:37 <rane> :-) 08:46:48 <V453000> yes :) and by the way, you CAN fiddle with the ML in the hub to make it wider when you need 08:47:01 <V453000> so well ... it is flexible, not some fixed number that needs to be kept 08:48:28 <Ammler> just one simple rule for lines: no slowdown, not a single meter slower ;-) 08:48:36 <V453000> :) 08:50:28 <V453000> when I played alone, I made even like L_20tiles_R in the beginning. That made me able to expand it to ... 9L_9R ... but when I built it like L_R in the beginning, I still got to 8L_8R because there was enough space around the hubs. The only thing it changed was how the hubs looked, nothing more 08:50:50 <V453000> hope you see the point ... it does not matter much :) 08:51:04 <rane> yup 09:03:09 *** lych has quit IRC 09:16:27 *** Guvnor has quit IRC 09:17:08 *** roboboy has quit IRC 09:20:34 <V453000> !password 09:20:34 <PublicServer> V453000: milked 09:20:54 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 09:20:56 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 09:22:23 *** V453000 has left #openttdcoop 09:22:32 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop 09:22:32 *** Webster sets mode: +o V453000 09:27:42 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 09:27:49 <V453000> wtf. 09:27:52 <V453000> !password 09:27:52 <PublicServer> V453000: baring 09:28:20 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 09:28:21 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 09:31:55 <V453000> !auto 09:31:55 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 09:31:58 <V453000> !unpause 09:31:58 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has unpaused the server. (Use !auto to set it back.) 09:32:00 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 09:39:42 *** dr_gonzo has joined #openttdcoop 09:41:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003779A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003779A.png 09:56:12 <V453000> !auto 09:56:12 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 09:56:14 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 09:56:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003DDCE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003DDCE.png 09:57:27 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 10:09:30 *** Mucht has quit IRC 10:11:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003EFD0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003EFD0.png 10:27:05 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 10:53:05 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 11:01:15 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 11:07:34 *** Vinnie has quit IRC 11:22:44 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 11:30:48 *** Vinnie has joined #openttdcoop 11:54:50 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 11:54:52 *** Webster sets mode: +o KenjiE20 12:05:39 *** dr_gonzo has quit IRC 12:19:05 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 12:21:05 *** roboboy has quit IRC 12:38:17 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop 12:38:40 *** Mazur has quit IRC 12:48:36 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop 13:31:18 *** Mucht has joined #openttdcoop 13:31:41 *** dr_gonzo has joined #openttdcoop 13:34:43 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 13:35:40 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 13:37:06 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 14:06:42 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 14:06:55 <sla_ro|master> hello 14:07:21 <V453000> hi 14:07:23 <sla_ro|master> i got Autopilot but idk how to start it.. i open it and doesnt show anything 14:07:44 <V453000> hm, I might not be the correct person to talk to about that :) Ammler? :) 14:07:45 <sla_ro|master> i had config it, i got activetcl with expect 14:07:57 <sla_ro|master> i was questioning everyone 14:08:28 <V453000> feels bad to shut up after I greeted you :p 14:09:37 <sla_ro|master> .. 14:11:01 <Mazur> Hard disk dead. 14:11:08 * Mazur is in mourning. 14:11:51 <Mazur> Probably could have salvaged enough if Fedora hadn't sneakily installed LVM when I wasn;t paying attention. 14:12:50 <rane> backups! 14:14:07 <sla_ro|master> ty for help, look like i need to find another game to host 14:14:33 <V453000> guess you just need to find the right person here :) 14:14:53 <V453000> which ... can take some time given it is early afternoon in europe :) 14:15:25 <sla_ro|master> why ur using ":)" at all sentences? 14:15:36 <V453000> why not 14:15:47 <sla_ro|master> i dont see anything funny or happy here.... 14:15:54 <Mazur> I do. :-) 14:15:59 <V453000> I am a happy person, which you do not seem to be :) 14:16:41 <sla_ro|master> why to be happy? 14:16:48 <V453000> why to be sad? 14:16:53 <sla_ro|master> im not sad 14:16:57 <rane> i had my sata controller fry on the mobo and burn my disks last year 14:17:08 <rane> it wasn't fun :-\ 14:17:13 <rane> and i had partial backups 14:17:21 <sla_ro|master> i goto play some fifa 14:17:31 <V453000> :) 14:27:51 <Mazur> Backups are for rich people. 14:28:16 <Chris_Booth> no Mazur backups are for people that value their data 14:28:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: -o KenjiE20 14:28:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v V453000 14:28:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Webster 14:28:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o XeryusTC 14:28:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ^Spike^ 14:28:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Ammler 14:28:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v SmatZ 14:28:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v planetmaker 14:28:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Phoenix_the_II 14:28:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v uliko 14:28:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v hylje 14:28:26 <Chris_Booth> I lost one of my HHDs last week 14:28:42 <Chris_Booth> only took me 2 hours to get back to normal 14:28:45 *** Mazur is now known as Guest41 14:28:49 <Chris_Booth> and only lost 1 days work 14:29:06 <Vinnie> !date 14:29:06 <PublicServer> Vinnie: 13 Aug 2523 14:29:21 <rane> !moonphase 14:29:26 <Guest41> .msg nickserv help identify 14:29:29 <Chris_Booth> we where just graced by nickserv 14:29:42 *** Guest41 is now known as Mazur 14:29:56 <Chris_Booth> Guest41: (Mazur you are lucky not to have given us your pass then :P) 14:30:21 <Mazur> Not really. 14:30:42 <Mazur> I tend to be more careful with passwords. 14:31:06 <Mazur> <Not to say I ccould never make a mistake. 14:33:10 <Mazur> Hm, nicey 2TB Western Digital diskies... 14:33:23 <Mazur> Only 88 euro a piece. 14:33:28 <Vinnie> !password 14:33:28 <PublicServer> Vinnie: baring 14:33:41 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:33:43 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 14:48:47 *** confound has joined #openttdcoop 14:57:47 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:57:50 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 15:03:49 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 15:08:38 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 15:14:07 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:14:07 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 15:17:20 *** lucas92 has joined #openttdcoop 15:18:55 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 15:32:42 *** Guvnor has joined #openttdcoop 15:33:15 *** Intexon_ has quit IRC 15:33:23 <Guvnor> !players 15:33:25 <PublicServer> Guvnor: There are currently no clients connected to the server 15:34:33 *** Mazur has quit IRC 15:47:06 *** CyberSoul has quit IRC 16:03:57 <V453000> !password 16:03:57 <PublicServer> V453000: beater 16:04:16 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:04:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 16:04:18 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 16:06:15 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop 16:06:42 <sla_ro|master> !pl 16:06:43 <sla_ro|master> . 16:06:45 <sla_ro|master> !players 16:06:47 <PublicServer> sla_ro|master: Client 888 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (Chasing the Yeti) 16:06:48 <sla_ro|master> . 16:06:53 <sla_ro|master> ok 16:06:59 <V453000> ...? 16:07:11 <sla_ro|master> i like more cnc renegade bots ,lol 16:07:15 <sla_ro|master> they all have !pl.. 16:09:37 *** iklucas has joined #openttdcoop 16:11:10 *** lucas92 has quit IRC 16:11:44 *** TroyMcClure has joined #openttdcoop 16:12:01 <TroyMcClure> #openttdcoop.stable 16:17:28 *** Tray has quit IRC 16:20:17 *** iklucas has quit IRC 16:30:36 <SmatZ> !players 16:30:39 <PublicServer> SmatZ: Client 888 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (Chasing the Yeti) 16:31:11 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:31:11 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 16:31:13 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 16:31:37 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello V453000 16:32:02 <V453000> hi :) 16:32:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets finalize this 16:32:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> should not be much work 16:35:02 <Vinnie> !password 16:35:02 <PublicServer> Vinnie: beater 16:35:11 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 16:35:14 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 16:35:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 16:35:24 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> Vinnie: it's not hap 8 16:35:26 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> gap 16:35:32 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> so it has to have 3 tunnels 16:35:42 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> really 16:35:48 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> yup 16:35:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> where 16:36:05 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> @ !here 16:36:08 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> watch the trains 16:36:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm 16:36:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> indeed 16:36:18 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> sometimes they choose the wrong tunnel 16:36:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> that just does not work 16:37:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what gap would you call it then? 16:37:10 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> 10-11 16:37:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> about :) 16:37:24 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes now but when my signals where in place 16:37:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> still, do you need an exact number? 16:37:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nah 16:37:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, the signals that broke it :) 16:38:03 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets remove my stupid signs\ 16:38:09 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 16:38:17 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> generally, if you split gap 10 to gap 2+8, the gap 8 should be first 16:38:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> ^ 16:38:36 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> was no space for that :) 16:38:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> how come there is space now :) 16:38:45 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> yeah, you could leave 3 tunnels :) 16:38:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you made it 3 tunnels 16:39:01 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> it was 3 tunnels 16:39:05 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> before you changed it to 2 :) 16:39:23 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no signs so i dont remember 16:39:50 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> well 16:40:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> outer ml should not have entry presignal 16:40:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is borked indeed :) 16:40:27 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> still it looks kind of broken 16:40:45 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> before i touched it it was done with pbs 16:40:47 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> there used to be PBS 16:41:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> doesnt this work? :) 16:41:04 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> still 16:41:14 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> the middle + left/right can choose one track 16:41:22 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> like... middle train chooses left track 16:41:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002893B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002893B.png 16:41:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> well, yes 16:41:34 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> then train from left tunnel has to go to left track too 16:41:38 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> and it has to wait 16:41:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> but to solve that you would probably need to make the 3 tunnels all the way through :) 16:42:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> same situation :) 16:42:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> best way :) 16:42:51 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> not sure if it is synced though :) 16:42:59 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no 16:43:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is 16:43:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> the 3 arent 16:43:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> but meh 16:43:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> they wont be 16:43:09 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :) 16:43:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> would need to go 90degrees otherwise, but it does not matter 16:44:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm 16:44:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw 16:44:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> why not this :) 16:44:47 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> the problem is that there used to be PBS 16:44:53 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> would shake the cargo 16:44:57 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> before I changed it to 3 tunnels 16:45:05 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> but trains were stopping at the PBS sometimes 16:45:07 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> causing jams 16:45:11 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> but we will see :) 16:45:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> I see 16:45:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> well we can put 2ways there, it is just a tunnel 16:45:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> or lead the tunnels outside the hub, no 16:45:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> np 16:49:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> issues anywhere? 16:51:23 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> V453000: do you plan to finish that game now? 16:51:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> you disagree? :) 16:51:39 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH6 split from NW 16:51:41 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> well :) 16:51:43 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> nope 16:51:46 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> jams real occasional 16:51:49 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> I think it's the best thing to do 16:52:04 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> better than extending MSH02 16:52:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes :) 16:52:56 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hehe :) 16:53:10 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> those "for 4th ML" tracks were really weird 16:53:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, that is kind of funny :) 16:53:24 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i deleted them 16:53:36 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> yeah :) 16:54:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> alright... I will go write the archive entry then :) 16:54:41 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :-) 16:54:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> search for issues :p 16:54:47 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (connection lost) 16:55:05 <SmatZ> it looked fine :) 16:55:24 <V453000> indeed 16:56:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00010A4F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00010A4F.png 16:59:48 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 17:01:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm, wood drop or some snowy hub for the image? 17:02:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe MSH 01, there is a lot of rails :) 17:02:20 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nah wood drop 17:02:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok, wood drop is nice too 17:07:42 *** pugi has quit IRC 17:07:58 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop 17:07:58 <mfb-> hi 17:08:15 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 17:08:15 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 17:09:04 *** TroyMcClure has quit IRC 17:11:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi hi:) 17:11:06 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 17:12:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> anything left to do? 17:13:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not really 17:13:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its getting archived 17:13:44 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 17:13:44 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:15:02 *** TroyMcClure has joined #openttdcoop 17:15:10 <TroyMcClure> #openttdcoop.stable 17:15:50 <V453000> TroyMcClure: if you type /join #openttdcoop.stable , we do not see it 17:16:21 <TroyMcClure> thanks v 17:16:25 <V453000> sure, np 17:16:30 <V453000> !save 17:16:30 <PublicServer> Saving game... 17:16:49 <V453000> !save psg202final.sav 17:16:49 <PublicServer> Saving game... 17:17:09 <V453000> !transfer 202 psg202final.sav 17:17:09 <PublicServer> V453000: no file! 17:17:09 <PublicServer> V453000: Usage: /home/openttd/script/transfer.sh [publicserver|prozone] [-f] [-h|u] gamenr save 17:17:14 <V453000> !transfer 202 game.sav 17:17:20 <PublicServer> V453000: PublicServerGame_202_Final.sav 17:17:20 <PublicServer> V453000: Transfer done. (/home/openttd/svn-publicserver/autopilot/save/game.sav->http://www.openttdcoop.org//files/PublicServer_archive/PublicServerGame_202_Final.sav) 17:17:53 <V453000> !gamenr 17:17:53 <PublicServer> V453000: This is game number: 202 17:18:02 <V453000> !set gamenr 17:18:04 *** dihedral has quit IRC 17:18:04 *** seberoth has quit IRC 17:18:33 <Chris_Booth> V453000 can you kick TroyMcClure's dead clients 17:19:22 *** dihedral has joined #openttdcoop 17:19:34 <SmatZ> !clients 17:19:38 <V453000> !gamenr 17:19:38 <PublicServer> V453000: This is game number: 202 17:19:38 <SmatZ> !players 17:19:40 <PublicServer> SmatZ: Client 892 (Orange) is Vinnie, in company 1 (Chasing the Yeti) 17:19:46 <V453000> !gamenr 203 17:19:46 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has set gamenr to 203 (next !restart) 17:19:50 <V453000> !content 17:19:50 <PublicServer> V453000: Connection established 17:19:50 <PublicServer> V453000: Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes) 17:19:50 <PublicServer> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded) 17:19:53 *** seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 17:20:00 <V453000> SmatZ: want to update? 17:20:07 <SmatZ> V453000: would be good :) 17:20:12 <SmatZ> I have already updated the patches 17:20:15 <V453000> ok 17:20:16 * SmatZ ssh's 17:20:20 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 17:20:30 <V453000> it is yours then :P 17:20:36 <SmatZ> V453000: can I kill the server? 17:20:40 <V453000> yes 17:20:43 <SmatZ> !quit 17:20:46 <Guvnor> !archive 17:20:46 <PublicServer> Guvnor: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive 17:20:49 <SmatZ> m 17:20:51 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 17:26:34 <Vinnie> !dl 17:27:01 <V453000> no server, no dl :) 17:27:17 <V453000> @stage MM + Planning 17:27:17 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG202 (r22148) | STAGE: MM + Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | English only" 17:29:08 <Vinnie> you let the server die :( 17:36:13 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 17:36:13 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 17:36:13 <PublicServer> Loading default savegame 17:36:13 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG203 (r22225) | STAGE: MM + Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | English only" 17:36:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 17:36:29 <SmatZ> done :) 17:36:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000822A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000822A.png 17:36:45 <V453000> :) 17:37:07 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 17:37:47 <V453000> !dl win64 17:37:47 <PublicServer> V453000: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22225/openttd-trunk-r22225-windows-win64.zip 17:37:58 <V453000> !auto 17:37:58 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 17:37:59 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:38:00 <V453000> !info 17:38:00 <PublicServer> V453000: players 17:38:00 <PublicServer> V453000: server_info 17:38:00 <PublicServer> V453000: clients 17:38:00 <PublicServer> V453000: echo doneclientcount 17:38:01 <PublicServer> V453000: #:1(Blue) Company Name: 'Unnamed' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 100000 Loan: 100000 Value: 1 (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 17:38:01 <PublicServer> V453000: Current/maximum clients: 0/255 17:38:03 <PublicServer> V453000: Current/maximum companies: 1/ 1 17:38:03 <PublicServer> V453000: Current/maximum spectators: 0/10 17:38:05 <PublicServer> V453000: Client #1 name: 'PublicServer' company: 255 IP: 0.0.0.0 17:38:05 <PublicServer> V453000: doneclientcount 17:38:07 <PublicServer> V453000: #:1(Blue) Company Name: 'Unnamed' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 100000 Loan: 100000 Value: 1 (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 17:39:41 <V453000> !password 17:39:41 <PublicServer> V453000: nerved 17:39:55 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:39:55 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 17:40:22 <V453000> anyone coming to do the MM? 17:40:48 <SmatZ> I can 17:40:58 * SmatZ updates his openttd checkout 17:41:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 17:43:02 <SmatZ> compiling... 17:43:20 <SmatZ> !unpause :) 17:43:20 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has unpaused the server. (Use !auto to set it back.) 17:43:20 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:44:43 <SmatZ> PZ should be updated too 17:44:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 17:44:59 <SmatZ> compiling is going to take several minutes :/ 17:48:02 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 17:49:24 *** elmz has quit IRC 17:51:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00029A3A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00029A3A.png 17:54:05 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 17:54:06 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hellllllo 17:54:07 <V453000> !auto 17:54:07 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 17:54:08 <SmatZ> !auto 17:54:08 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has enabled autopause mode. 17:54:11 <SmatZ> :) 17:54:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> hhhhiiiiii 17:54:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 17:58:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> czech rails and roads :p 17:58:34 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> yeah :) 17:58:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> true that the roads might be too "civilized" for tropic, but meh :) 17:58:58 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :) 17:59:06 *** Vinnie has quit IRC 18:03:45 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 18:03:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 18:03:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 18:04:00 <V453000> !rcon set max_aircraft 50 18:04:20 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello mfb 18:04:22 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 18:04:38 <V453000> @stage Planning 18:04:38 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG203 (r22225) | STAGE: Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | English only" 18:06:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> feel free to upgrade the MM if you want but lets say we have enough to plan with :P 18:06:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> hollandston invited me to do so 18:06:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00012A1D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00012A1D.png 18:06:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 18:08:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> this MM is actually quite sufficient :) but well, more = better? :) 18:16:25 <V453000> !tweet PublicServerGame 203 planning is off! Come present your ideas now! 18:16:25 <PublicServer> V453000: Tweet sent: http://twitter.com/openttdcoop 18:18:53 *** Vinnie has joined #openttdcoop 18:21:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002D2A0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002D2A0.png 18:25:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> hn, you made kinda swarm of the airplanes, did you :D 18:39:08 *** Vinnie has quit IRC 18:53:27 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 18:53:27 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:53:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> :( 18:57:19 <rane> so what's teh next thing 18:57:30 *** Vinnie has joined #openttdcoop 18:57:45 <Vinnie> !dl osx 18:57:45 <PublicServer> Vinnie: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22225/openttd-trunk-r22225-macosx-universal.zip 18:59:10 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 18:59:22 <V453000> pfft 18:59:30 <Vinnie> !password 18:59:30 <PublicServer> Vinnie: groovy 18:59:37 <V453000> !password 18:59:37 <PublicServer> V453000: groovy 18:59:42 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:59:45 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 18:59:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 18:59:48 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:59:51 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 18:59:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 19:00:20 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its so flat 19:00:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is tropic... 19:00:39 *** Jono has joined #openttdcoop 19:01:03 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:01:09 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 19:01:14 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello CB 19:01:24 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> does this map fit your plan? 19:01:26 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its way to flat 19:01:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no 19:01:40 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but I can edit it 19:01:48 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 19:01:48 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 19:03:52 <rane> !psg203 19:03:56 <rane> @psg203 19:04:06 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 19:04:06 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 19:04:09 <V453000> what are you trying to do? :D 19:04:20 <rane> display what the new game is about 19:04:22 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> To build a plan 19:04:25 <rane> !dl winxp 19:04:25 <PublicServer> rane: unknown option "winxp" 19:04:28 <rane> !dl win32 19:04:28 <PublicServer> rane: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22225/openttd-trunk-r22225-windows-win32.zip 19:05:21 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> any chance of me being able to make my plan? 19:05:26 <V453000> ? 19:05:31 <V453000> I was talking to rane 19:05:42 <rane> :-) 19:05:45 <rane> !password 19:05:45 <PublicServer> rane: groovy 19:05:51 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:05:51 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 19:05:54 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:05:57 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> thanks Vinnie 19:05:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh, it paused eh 19:05:59 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> V453000: 19:06:02 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> tabe key abuse 19:06:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeye :) nvm 19:06:25 <rane> !password 19:06:25 <PublicServer> rane: purest 19:06:31 <Jono> hi everyone.. i'm new to this openttdcoop.. mind if i hop in? 19:06:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008A17: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008A17.png 19:06:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> hello and welcome :) 19:06:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> @@quickstart 19:06:48 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 19:06:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> read this first please :) 19:06:51 <PublicServer> *** rane joined the game 19:06:59 <Jono> kk will do :) 19:07:01 <rane> i read it lol 19:07:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> then you are free to join :) 19:07:18 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 19:07:28 <rane> why you don't play with extra zoom levels :-| 19:07:46 <V453000> why to 19:08:07 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:08:07 <V453000> more lag, great 19:08:07 <rane> so i can see signals i am placing ;-) 19:08:13 <rane> it causes lag? 19:08:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> we can see the signals already 19:08:29 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 19:08:36 <rane> so what's the idea for this game? 19:08:42 <V453000> I would expect it to eat some power 19:08:45 <rane> !idea 19:08:58 <rane> for me it only lags the game if i zoom out too much 19:08:59 <V453000> uhm ... assuming you read the guides, you probably read something about planning stage 19:09:03 <rane> it actually speeds it up if i zoom in 19:09:14 <rane> so if i want to skip some years, i zoom in at some empty place first 19:09:33 <rane> i know each game has a "thing" for it 19:09:38 <rane> like yeti 19:09:44 <rane> some general purpose 19:09:54 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:10:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, and how is that purpose picked you probably also read 19:10:34 <rane> yes, there's a list of future game ideas 19:10:39 <V453000> is there? 19:10:56 <rane> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Game_Proposals 19:11:08 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 19:12:00 <V453000> uhm :D 19:12:07 <V453000> that does not really apply at all 19:12:18 <rane> i guess 19:12:27 <rane> this map looks darn hard 19:12:34 <V453000> why? 19:12:40 <rane> and vinnie wants to place a ring on it where water is 19:12:48 <Jono> okay, so once i've gone through the quickstart, how can i join you guys ? 19:13:06 <rane> get GRFs 19:13:12 <V453000> that is the point :) it is written in the quickstart, or somewhere linked there 19:13:20 <rane> !quickstart 19:13:22 <rane> @quickstart 19:13:23 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 19:13:36 <Jono> @quickstart 19:13:37 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 19:13:52 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:14:35 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> thanks V453000 I have made my plan 19:14:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> rane was here all the time :) not me 19:14:47 <rane> i will make some airports if you don't mind 19:14:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> but you are welcome of course :p 19:14:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> rane: no need anymore 19:15:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> rane no more airports 19:15:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> stage is planning, not Making airports 19:15:37 <PublicServer> <rane> :-( 19:16:48 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined spectators 19:17:09 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> V453000 any chance you and tell ali to stop blocking on Welcome sever? 19:17:19 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> with his old line which he isn't using 19:17:25 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I have asked him 3 times now 19:17:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess 19:19:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> is he obstacling you anyhow? 19:19:39 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no its just annoying 19:19:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> there are worse noobs 19:20:16 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that is true 19:20:23 <rane> <--- 19:20:25 <rane> :-) 19:20:25 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> one has visited the server today 19:20:31 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and blew everything up 19:21:30 <rane> ehh 19:21:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003D554: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003D554.png 19:23:09 <rane> so the plan is to have two one-way mainlines, smaller inside bigger? 19:23:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> did you actually read what I said? 19:23:44 <mfb-> it's up to you what you do in your plan (if you want to create one) 19:24:00 <rane> i am looking at Chris' plan 19:24:03 <mfb-> ah 19:24:12 <rane> i wonder why he signed his name with a typo 19:24:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> just cause 19:24:23 <rane> but it looks like a really neat idea 19:24:29 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 19:24:30 <rane> :-) 19:24:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> one ML for full trains, one for empty 19:25:12 <Jono> !dl win32 19:25:12 <PublicServer> Jono: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22225/openttd-trunk-r22225-windows-win32.zip 19:25:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> will need many lines 19:25:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> but hubs are easier 19:25:46 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ooh mfb was an accident 19:25:56 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> thanks for pointing it out 19:25:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> me? 19:26:01 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 19:26:10 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> my name sign 19:26:12 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined spectators 19:26:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> you seem kinda confused CB :p 19:26:40 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ooh it was rane 19:26:42 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> thanks rane 19:27:56 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 19:28:13 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> V453000 what am I confused about? 19:28:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe we can begin with RRR / LLL there 19:28:30 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no 19:28:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> about who wrote what :p this wasnt tab abuse :) 19:28:38 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no that was not 19:29:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> TL7 maglev is interesting 19:29:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> CL? 19:29:26 <Jono> ~password 19:29:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 7 I assume 19:29:31 <Jono> !password 19:29:31 <PublicServer> Jono: taming 19:29:33 <V453000> @clcalc mag 483 19:29:33 <Webster> V453000: Required CL for maglev at 483km/h is 7 (13 half tiles) or TL 19:29:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> 7 is a lot :/ 19:29:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> for a 1way network on this flat map it is fine 19:29:55 <PublicServer> *** Jono joined the game 19:29:58 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you have 5 tiles to build half hubs 19:30:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> 5? ;) 19:30:28 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no TL7 19:30:37 <mfb-> 5 tiles? ;) 19:30:47 <mfb-> 50? 19:30:52 <mfb-> well, afk now 19:32:02 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 50 tiles may need to be 75 - 100 actualy 19:32:08 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> for the stations 19:32:23 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what do you think V453000? 19:33:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> depends really, the stations do not need to be 90degree turned to ML 19:33:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> could go horizontally with it 19:33:36 <Guvnor> !dl win64 19:33:36 <PublicServer> Guvnor: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22225/openttd-trunk-r22225-windows-win64.zip 19:33:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> but I think that if you make the inner ring large, you just get a boring massive space in the center 19:34:05 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> very good poins 19:34:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> mkae it to narrow you get traffic problems 19:34:43 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 19:35:28 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined spectators 19:36:28 <Guvnor> !password 19:36:28 <PublicServer> Guvnor: parcel 19:36:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008E17: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008E17.png 19:37:03 <PublicServer> *** Guvnor joined the game 19:37:11 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Alright Guvnor 19:37:21 <Guvnor> Hello :) 19:37:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 19:39:09 <PublicServer> *** rane has left the game (leaving) 19:39:31 *** Intexon_ has joined #openttdcoop 19:41:00 <Jono> what are we doing atm? 19:41:10 <PublicServer> * V453000 points at topic 19:41:38 <rane> we're asking while they are planning 19:41:57 <rane> :-) 19:42:14 <Guvnor> wow, that's some advanced trickery with the catchment area on Waiuk west 19:42:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> some consider it cheating 19:42:37 <Jono> sorry if i sound stupid but i really dont know what to expect here 19:42:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> have you seen some of our games? 19:43:02 <rane> you should look at the archives 19:43:17 <Jono> no, this is the first i heard of this and trying it out 19:43:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> openttd in general or our community? 19:43:30 <Guvnor> i've studied several games but you just can't get a feel for some sublties when the map is jammed full 19:43:46 <Jono> this coop 19:43:54 <Jono> openttd i've played for a while 19:44:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> well, maybe you could find our wiki etc. interesting enough to read it and eventually see the archive savegames 19:44:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> cannot really help you more 19:44:26 <Jono> okay i'll take a look, thanks 19:44:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 19:47:25 *** Razaekel has quit IRC 19:49:22 *** Phoenix_the_II has quit IRC 19:51:01 *** Razaekel has joined #openttdcoop 19:51:10 <Guvnor> Hope you guys don't mind if I join in this game? I've played OpenTTD solo a bunch 19:51:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure, be welcome 19:51:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000082E5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000082E5.png 19:51:40 <Guvnor> thanks :) 19:52:32 *** Vinnie has quit IRC 19:53:18 <Guvnor> !players 19:53:20 <PublicServer> Guvnor: Client 45 is Jono, a spectator 19:53:20 <PublicServer> Guvnor: Client 41 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (Black & Co.) 19:53:21 <PublicServer> Guvnor: Client 19 is Chris Booth, a spectator 19:53:21 <PublicServer> Guvnor: Client 43 (Orange) is mfb, in company 1 (Black & Co.) 19:53:21 <PublicServer> Guvnor: Client 47 (Orange) is Guvnor, in company 1 (Black & Co.) 19:56:18 *** confound has quit IRC 20:00:38 *** Chris_Booth_ has joined #openttdcoop 20:00:42 <Jono> so starting from scratch, the end result must look like one huge network ? 20:00:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> quite 20:00:55 *** iklucas has joined #openttdcoop 20:01:50 *** Chillosophy has joined #openttdcoop 20:01:52 <Jono> how is it all monitored and maintained ? 20:02:40 <V453000> what do you mean? :) 20:04:30 <Jono> :) all the tracks and trains and where they all go, etc. 20:04:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> we all vote on some plan 20:04:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> all that should be in the quickstart 20:05:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> or somewhere there 20:05:26 <PublicServer> *** 1ntexon joined the game 20:05:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 20:05:42 <PublicServer> <1ntexon> hi 20:05:46 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 20:05:48 *** Chris_Booth_ is now known as Chris_Booth 20:06:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00007EFA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00007EFA.png 20:13:03 *** iklucas has quit IRC 20:13:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> waiting bay :D 20:13:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> :p 20:14:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> transfer stations are where? 20:14:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> connected by SLHs -> anywhere where fits 20:15:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> well there should probably be one more class of hubs 20:15:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> why do we need seperate joiners for anything? 20:15:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> every transfer station gets its own network? 20:16:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> no! 20:16:01 <Guvnor> Chris, are your spokes one-way or two-way? 20:16:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> (SL-net) 20:16:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> All trains on one net 20:16:25 <PublicServer> <1ntexon> I don't get it 20:16:44 <PublicServer> <1ntexon> how can they be on one network and not go through any BBH 20:16:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> easily 20:16:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> they just go to the local transfer 20:17:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> feeder trains just go from one primary to the nearest transfer station 20:17:15 <PublicServer> <1ntexon> ah ok 20:17:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 20:17:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok 20:17:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, I don't see the point in using the same lines then 20:17:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> why not 20:17:47 <PublicServer> <1ntexon> me too 20:17:49 <PublicServer> <mfb> 17tile-drop for TL6 20:17:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> wha? 20:18:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, seperate drop/pickup 20:18:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> ofc 20:18:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> but then the only thing the networks share is a small part of the SL 20:18:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> no! 20:18:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> they can go everywhere but BBHs 20:18:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> but they will not do that 20:18:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> there can be multiple SLHs with different transfers 20:19:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok 20:19:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> and if one SLH has rubber transfer and the other copper ore, trains from each SLH need to go there 20:19:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> therefore go over the ML 20:19:30 <PublicServer> <1ntexon> that makes some sense finally :) 20:21:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> you do need the bridge 20:21:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 20:21:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000094F4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000094F4.png 20:21:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is for forcing the train into the loop 20:21:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> train is too slow 20:21:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> k 20:22:13 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 20:23:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> 88km/h for a large network, hmm 20:23:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> what do you need speed for 20:23:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> profit? 20:23:54 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok acceleration is nice 20:24:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> can be instant with centennials 20:26:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe we can shorten prios with that 20:26:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> an another option would be to load a logic engine with 177 kmh, that is CL1 for maglev 20:26:51 <mfb-> :D 20:27:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> the acceleration is instant anyway 20:27:04 <PublicServer> <1ntexon> that would be second hack in that game :D 20:27:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> with 88kmh and 2centennials 20:27:13 <PublicServer> <1ntexon> first being the stacking thing :P 20:27:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> :p 20:27:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is not a hack! :) 20:27:48 <PublicServer> <1ntexon> sure not :D 20:27:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> it is a feature! 20:29:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> idk ... 88kmh might be too boring :) 20:30:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> and logic engine is a normal newgrf that willingly listens to our wishes :p 20:30:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> acceleration would be "ok", too :p 20:31:24 <PublicServer> <1ntexon> small question: why exactly 17? 20:31:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> fits best in the waiting bay maybe 20:31:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> because it fits exactly 3 times 20:32:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> try it :) 20:32:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 20:32:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe 18 20:33:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> bah 20:33:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> would fit 20:33:54 <PublicServer> <mfb> but the train doesn't want to 20:34:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 20:35:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> stupid train 20:35:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think that is because once the train begins its path somewhere, it has to finish it 20:35:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> do not know why, but it seems to work that way 20:35:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> 17.5 now 20:36:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> fits in 20:36:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think 17 is enough, isnt it? :) 20:36:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> your plan is so confusing V453000 20:36:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000076F3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000076F3.png 20:36:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> I believe that 20:36:55 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but could be fun 20:37:09 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just the SLHs that confuse me ATM 20:37:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> I am considering adding narrow gauge rails and logic engine with 177 (CL1) kmh 20:37:23 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so you have SLH to feeder stations 20:37:29 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and SLHs to transfer stations 20:37:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is one SLH basically 20:37:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> only the joiner is split 20:37:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> narrow gauge rails? 20:37:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, so that it looks like rails, not maglev :) 20:37:55 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and the trains share one network? 20:37:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 20:38:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> Chris Booth: yes, but BBHs remain clean with only the long ones 20:38:23 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> V453000 you can only do that if your plan wins 20:38:50 *** Ramsus08191 has joined #openttdcoop 20:38:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> I did not say I am doing it now :) 20:39:04 <Ramsus08191> !dl win32 20:39:04 <PublicServer> Ramsus08191: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22225/openttd-trunk-r22225-windows-win32.zip 20:39:43 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> also I am not sure what players will think or 88km/h 20:39:51 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nice contrast to my plan 20:39:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> as I said, 177 20:40:13 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 177 ooh with logic 20:40:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 11mph is fine 20:40:52 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 110mph i mean 20:41:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, that is a top speed of UKRS2 or SH40 :) 20:41:34 *** dr_gonzo has quit IRC 20:41:42 <Ramsus08191> !password 20:41:42 <PublicServer> Ramsus08191: prides 20:41:55 <PublicServer> *** Ramsus08191 joined the game 20:42:03 <Ramsus08191> Hello 20:42:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 20:42:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 20:43:51 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the GEC 91 in UKRS2 sucks so much 20:43:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> ye 20:44:07 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and no AL 10 sucks 20:44:36 *** Vinnie has joined #openttdcoop 20:48:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> that wont work 20:48:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> I tried that but I think it is impossible 20:48:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> it will stop trains at the SL 20:48:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> but why can't that work? 20:48:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> you would need some fail-safe there 20:48:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is what I added 20:49:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> hm 20:49:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok by one tile 20:49:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 20:49:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> that situation? 20:49:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> wait, entry signal at the ML?? 20:49:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> SL 20:49:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> well ok 20:49:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> half ML 20:50:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> well, it is a normal SL->ML joiner 20:50:25 <Sylf> !password 20:50:25 <PublicServer> Sylf: prides 20:50:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> but you don't want to add 17 tiles of prio, do you? 20:50:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> you need to have that 20:51:01 <planetmaker> hello 20:51:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm ok 20:51:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi pm 20:51:08 <PublicServer> <1ntexon> hi 20:51:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> then the small trains might jam that 20:51:13 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hi 20:51:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 20:51:21 <planetmaker> hm, planning :-) 20:51:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> the small trains? they will just fill the gaps 20:51:26 <Sylf> !password 20:51:26 <PublicServer> Sylf: yelped 20:51:27 <planetmaker> is voting already open? 20:51:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006ADA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00006ADA.png 20:51:35 <PublicServer> <1ntexon> not yet 20:51:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> not just that 20:51:52 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 20:51:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi Sylf 20:51:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> I don't think we get 17 tiles of empty track when we fill some small trains in 20:51:58 <PublicServer> <Sylf> ello 20:52:02 <planetmaker> hm, ok :-) 20:52:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> what do you mean mfb? 20:52:17 <PublicServer> <Sylf> hm, brb 20:52:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh, I see 20:52:22 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 20:52:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> well, a long train needs to leave the ML to free up space 20:52:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> same as it normally works 20:53:07 <Sylf> !PASSWORD 20:53:11 <Sylf> !password 20:53:11 <PublicServer> Sylf: yelped 20:53:23 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 20:53:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 20:53:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> I don't know if that will work 20:53:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> what 20:53:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> but we won't find out without trying :) 20:53:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> the plan 20:54:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> why would it not work 20:54:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, everything works if you don't fill it with many trains 20:54:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 20:54:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> many little trains will not even get to the ML 20:54:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> or well... some :) 20:55:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> no real reason why it would not work, at least I do not see any 20:56:38 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> we not even in year 2000 :O 20:58:25 <PublicServer> *** 1ntexon has joined spectators 20:58:53 <Mazur> advertised revision is not yet the actual revision. 20:59:09 <V453000> ? 20:59:52 <Mazur> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/3797/rev 21:00:12 <Mazur> 979 21:00:19 <Mazur> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/3979/rev 21:00:40 <V453000> uhmmm 21:00:48 <Sylf> yeah - auto updater failed on me because of that 21:00:50 <V453000> guess nobody cares about that :p 21:00:56 <V453000> oh :) 21:00:59 <Sylf> ;_; 21:01:21 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined spectators 21:01:25 <Mazur> autostart looks it up, to see if the client needs updating. 21:01:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will be going ... I will be somewhere around if you need me :) just highlight 21:02:33 <Mazur> Sylf: Any way to give a revision to that script as a parameter? 21:02:44 <Mazur> Can;t seem to find it. 21:03:01 <Sylf> I'm a windoz user - I'm not using that script 21:03:09 <Mazur> Oh. 21:03:20 <Mazur> How knowledgeable of you, then. 21:03:34 <Sylf> I only use linux for irc :p 21:03:38 <Mazur> How unlike a windoze user. 21:03:52 <mfb-> !dl winxy 21:03:52 <PublicServer> mfb-: unknown option "winxy" 21:05:08 *** elmz has joined #openttdcoop 21:05:15 *** lucas92 has joined #openttdcoop 21:05:45 <PublicServer> *** Ramsus08191 has left the game (leaving) 21:06:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001E1BA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001E1BA.png 21:06:55 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 21:07:20 *** Ramsus08191 has quit IRC 21:09:56 *** Vinnie has quit IRC 21:11:22 <Mazur> Luckily I'm getting svn. 21:13:42 <lucas92> Hey 21:13:59 <lucas92> is this the good IRC channel? 21:14:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 21:14:19 <TroyMcClure> lucas92, try typing /join #openttdcoop.stable 21:14:21 <PublicServer> *** 1ntexon has left the game (connection lost) 21:14:25 <lucas92> ok 21:21:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000078D7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000078D7.png 21:21:59 *** Intexon_ has quit IRC 21:23:07 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 21:25:19 *** elmz has quit IRC 21:30:01 <Mazur> !password 21:30:01 <PublicServer> Mazur: derail 21:30:05 <Mazur> R 21:30:14 <Mazur> Surely not! 21:30:25 <mfb-> :p 21:30:30 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 21:35:51 *** lucas92 has quit IRC 21:36:12 *** frutiemax has joined #openttdcoop 21:36:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000068C4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000068C4.png 21:38:12 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 21:41:27 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 21:43:50 *** Chillosophy has quit IRC 21:44:05 *** Chillosophy has joined #openttdcoop 21:44:48 <PublicServer> *** Jono has left the game (connection lost) 21:45:10 *** Jono has left #openttdcoop 21:46:47 *** lych has joined #openttdcoop 21:51:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00010DBA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00010DBA.png 21:54:09 *** lych has quit IRC 21:56:43 <Mazur> Samuel Goldwyn 21:56:43 <Mazur> "Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist ought to have his head examined." 21:56:59 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 22:00:56 *** Chillosophy has quit IRC 22:12:26 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (connection lost) 22:13:12 <SmatZ> @topic add SmatZ will start voting stage on Saturday 22:13:12 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG203 (r22225) | STAGE: Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | English only | SmatZ will start voting stage on Saturday" 22:13:14 <PublicServer> *** Guvnor has left the game (connection lost) 22:13:16 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 22:27:09 <Tray> !password 22:27:09 <PublicServer> Tray: soften 22:27:27 <Tray> !dl win32 22:27:27 <PublicServer> Tray: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22225/openttd-trunk-r22225-windows-win32.zip 22:29:29 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 22:29:29 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 22:29:31 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 22:35:16 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 22:35:16 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 22:39:51 <dihedral> hello SmatZ :-) 22:40:51 <planetmaker> lool @ topic :-) 22:41:42 <Chris_Booth> ooh lots of people here 22:42:18 *** TroyMcClure has quit IRC 22:44:10 <planetmaker> dihedral: to answer your earlier question: not sure. But I guess Karlsruhe 22:45:46 <dihedral> hetzner is in KA? 22:46:15 <dihedral> i was actually wondering if you were in the same one as i am in :P 22:46:37 *** narra has joined #openttdcoop 22:46:39 -narra- free http://www.1filesharing.com/download/1JWQUHB2/psyBNC2.3.1_5.rar 22:46:39 <narra> free http://uploadmirrors.com/download/NXITRDYP/psyBNC2.3.1_2.rar 22:46:39 *** narra has left #openttdcoop 22:46:40 <Webster> Title: Upload Mirrors -Easy file upload to multiple free file hosts - Download - psyBNC2.3.1_2.rar (at uploadmirrors.com) 22:50:26 * mfb- slaps Webster around a bit with a large trout 22:53:43 *** planetmaker sets mode: +b *!*@41.234.205.101 22:55:45 *** zobel has joined #openttdcoop 23:07:27 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 23:07:31 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 23:07:51 *** zobel has left #openttdcoop 23:07:53 *** PeterT has quit IRC 23:08:23 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 23:09:34 <Guvnor> !password 23:09:34 <PublicServer> Guvnor: frizzy 23:09:49 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 23:09:49 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 23:09:51 <PublicServer> *** Guvnor joined the game 23:12:01 *** Nickman87 has quit IRC 23:12:38 *** Nickman87 has joined #openttdcoop 23:14:34 *** mfb- has quit IRC 23:17:03 <PublicServer> *** Guvnor has left the game (connection lost) 23:17:03 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:17:25 <V453000> !password 23:17:26 <PublicServer> V453000: frizzy 23:17:39 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 23:17:39 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 23:17:40 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 23:17:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> elo :) 23:18:05 <Guvnor> Hello 23:18:22 * dihedral believes V453000 has a broken SMTP Protocol and hands him an 'h' 23:18:39 <dihedral> to be placed between the e and the l :-P 23:18:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> one more l would be also handy :p 23:18:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> ah, thanks :D 23:19:25 <Guvnor> this is IRC but nonetheless... ;) 23:20:30 * dihedral is confused by his ISP 23:20:35 *** Tray has quit IRC 23:21:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000082D7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000082D7.png 23:30:15 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:36:36 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000086D9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000086D9.png 23:37:33 *** frutiemax has quit IRC 23:38:10 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 23:38:10 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:38:15 <V453000> gnight 23:48:25 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 23:51:11 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop