Log for #openttdcoop on 29th May 2011:
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06:21:45  <LittleMikey> !password
06:21:45  <PublicServer> LittleMikey: sinewy
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07:07:33  <TWerkhoven> !password
07:07:33  <PublicServer> TWerkhoven: sinewy
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10:58:26  <PublicServer> Seth--:
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11:15:49  <XeryusTC> !password
11:15:49  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: sinewy
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11:17:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wtf
11:17:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> why is there logic at my sbahn xD
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11:30:05  <Archimedes> !password
11:30:05  <PublicServer> Archimedes: teeing
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11:36:07  <Archimedes> Well ... I don't have a clue how that network works but it definitly looks great. :)
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11:41:15  <tycoondemon> !password
11:41:15  <PublicServer> tycoondemon: teeing
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12:15:15  <Archimedes> Does anyone have a good advice on how to build a good roro station?
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12:28:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> wow Jenson Button is driving like his house is on fire
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12:41:52  <FR8NET> Hello?
12:44:30  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00028E98:
12:46:15  <Chris_Booth_> hi FR8NET
12:46:25  <FR8NET> hello Chris
12:46:45  <FR8NET> I'm trying to join you guys and have got a little stuck
12:47:07  <Chris_Booth_> have you read the Quickstart guide FR8NET?
12:47:18  <FR8NET> the servers are still red, any where I can go for help
12:47:25  <FR8NET> yes i have
12:47:36  <Chris_Booth_> I would gues that you haven't
12:47:45  <Chris_Booth_> since the quickstart list everything you need
12:47:56  <Chris_Booth_> from the game version which is r22466
12:48:02  <FR8NET> i think its this nightly thing
12:48:18  <Chris_Booth_> and you also need the openttdc grf pack 8.0
12:48:19  <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - (again, try !grf)
12:48:27  <FR8NET> ok
12:48:32  <FR8NET> thanks
12:48:34  <Chris_Booth_> which again is found in the quick start
12:48:42  <Chris_Booth_> then you need grfs from bananas
12:48:43  <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - (again, try !grf)
12:49:18  <Ammler> :-)
12:51:49  <FR8NET> ok, so i have to manually put these all in the game (GRFÅ›)
12:52:32  <Chris_Booth_> you have to put them in your openttd public ~data folder
12:53:01  <Chris_Booth_> its hard to say which folder that is as I do not know what OS you are using
12:53:36  <FR8NET> k
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12:53:49  <Chris_Booth> what OS are you using?
12:54:56  <FR8NET> xp
12:55:18  <FR8NET> I'm not into all this file stuff, its like chineese to me
12:55:45  <FR8NET> let me research it
12:55:48  <FR8NET> thanks
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12:56:05  <Chris_Booth> I was going to tell him where to put it
12:56:09  <Chris_Booth> but oh well
12:56:47  <Archimedes> He will figure it out. It's not _that_ hard.
12:57:50  <Archimedes> Oh and btw. Hi everyone (sorry that i didn't greet before)
13:01:28  <Ammler> yes, people should be able to join without quickstart
13:10:49  <Chris_Booth> all you can do is try and help
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13:47:34  <Chris_Booth> what an interesting turn of events
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14:01:56  <XeryusTC> Damn, second big crash this weekend :o
14:02:22  <Chris_Booth> I know hope petrov is ok
14:02:57  <XeryusTC> Only a few bruises, nothing broken
14:04:37  <Chris_Booth> omfg Iplayer stop now!
14:04:43  <Chris_Booth> no not on the restart
14:05:43  <XeryusTC> Tv <3 but no hd broadcast :(
14:06:01  <Chris_Booth> bbc iPlayer is HD
14:06:10  <Chris_Booth> but my internet is lagging like a bitch
14:06:57  <XeryusTC> They do broadcast in hd, but it is not made available by my broadcaster
14:07:36  <Chris_Booth> lol another crash
14:07:47  <Chris_Booth> hamilton will drop some places now
14:07:55  <XeryusTC> Which is weird because the broadcaster also sponsors the program
14:08:22  <Chris_Booth> its all about costs
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14:08:50  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
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14:08:51  <XeryusTC> Where broadcaster = cable company
14:08:57  <Chris_Booth> who broadcasts in Dutch?
14:09:40  <XeryusTC> I'll explain when I'm behind my pc again :p
14:14:31  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000222E8:
14:15:10  <mfb-> !rcon set max_trains 1700
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14:20:57  <mfb-> !password
14:20:57  <PublicServer> mfb-: wiggle
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14:29:31  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000268E4:
14:31:16  <XeryusTC> woop
14:37:03  <XeryusTC> !players
14:37:06  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Client 35 is TWerkhoven, a spectator
14:37:06  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Client 37 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (Flethill City Transport)
14:37:06  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Client 48 (Orange) is mfb, in company 1 (Flethill City Transport)
14:37:06  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Client 43 (Orange) is tycoondemon, in company 1 (Flethill City Transport)
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14:37:57  <MrD2DG> !password
14:37:57  <PublicServer> MrD2DG: tagged
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14:38:25  <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Hi
14:38:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
14:38:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yarr
14:38:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> mfb: why did you add that logic to ice 10's sbahn btw?
14:39:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> got some jams
14:39:30  <PublicServer> <mfb> as too many trains were inside
14:40:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that's weird, because it isnt the busiest sbahn
14:40:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or was it deadlocked?
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14:40:37  <PublicServer> <mfb> something like that
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14:40:59  <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe not complete dead
14:41:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> but nearly
14:41:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, i've made it deadlock prove already :P
14:42:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> how?
14:42:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there used to be  a signal at the exit tunnel before
14:42:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> which made them deadlock in the past
14:42:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> Chris Booth complained about the jam
14:43:03  <PublicServer> <mfb> so I added a fix
14:43:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and i've added more platforms to most of the stations by now
14:43:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but i havent really seen a deadlock since i removed the signals anyway :P
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15:05:21  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch max_roadveh 700
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15:08:48  <MrD2DG> My poor CPU :'(
15:10:57  <Archimedes> What kind of CPU do you have that you worry about it?
15:11:11  <XeryusTC> !info
15:11:11  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: CmdClearArea              mfb  date:2509-07-13  tile:0002C2EA  p1:0002BCEA p2:00000000 text: price:-200
15:11:11  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Flethill City Transport'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 109052007104  Loan: 0  Value: 109073565853  (T:1508, R:604, P:0, S:74) unprotected
15:11:17  <XeryusTC> something that cant handle that :P
15:11:21  <MrD2DG> P4, OTTD lags so much
15:11:22  <MrD2DG> :P
15:11:50  <MrD2DG> Its playable in that state just very laggy
15:12:25  <Archimedes> In that case: Time for an upgrade! ;)
15:13:06  <MrD2DG> I know, I need to start saving :P
15:13:11  <XeryusTC> nah, this is just quite heavy for your cpu :P
15:13:23  <XeryusTC> my pc has trouble with it too from time to time
15:13:30  <XeryusTC> i blame the cpu based rendering :P
15:14:32  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002D4E5:
15:14:49  <Archimedes> I'm just assuming that my quadcore shoud be able to handle it. But sure cpu based rendering isn't the best to have.
15:15:24  <Archimedes> Maybe we'll get GPU acceleration and even bigger maps at some point. ;)
15:16:16  <XeryusTC> mutliple cores doesnt really help with ottd
15:16:23  <XeryusTC> unless you have autosave set to monthly :P
15:18:08  <mfb-> @gap 5
15:18:08  <Webster> mfb-: For Trainlength of 5: <= 11 needs 2, 12 - 18 needs 3, 19 - 25 needs 4.
15:19:52  <Archimedes> Okay in that case maybe we should try to get dual/multi core support first (for some reason I just assumed it was already implemented).
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15:20:07  <moorent> !password
15:20:07  <PublicServer> moorent: chummy
15:20:11  <XeryusTC> not going to happen :P
15:20:27  <XeryusTC> well, not without an engine rewrite
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15:20:54  <XeryusTC> multiplayer with multicore support will lead to desyncs
15:21:55  <hylje> the engine assumes the game loop knows absolutely everything going on in the game
15:22:16  <hylje> it can't deal with partial knowledge and the resulting inconsistency
15:23:43  <hylje> you need partial knowledge in order to split the task on multiple cores with any noticeable benefit
15:24:52  <Archimedes> *nodes*
15:25:58  <mfb-> should be possible (with a lot of work...), as trains don't know what other trains are going to do
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15:26:41  <XeryusTC> but on one machine you can have an industry produce cargo and then it is loaded onto the train, on another machine it can be the other way around, leading to a desync
15:26:56  <XeryusTC> the engine is made to handle things in a certain order so it is the same everwhere
15:27:28  <mfb-> well, one core just for pathfinding
15:28:35  <XeryusTC> well, currently it is impossible to do it
15:28:44  <XeryusTC> search the forums, you will find proper explanations there
15:28:58  <XeryusTC> but it all whitles down to basically having to rewrite the entire game core
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15:37:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 234 RVs for ICE 10 :P
15:37:52  <PublicServer> <mfb> 0 for 09 :p
15:38:06  <PublicServer> <mfb> 40k pax/month with 51 trains there
15:38:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we need more ML trains its eems :P
15:38:36  <PublicServer> <mfb> 40k pax with 34 trains and 28 RVs at 07
15:38:45  <PublicServer> <mfb> and larger ML statins
15:38:46  <PublicServer> <mfb> +o
15:39:07  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 450ML trains now
15:39:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> will take a while though for the last 20 will be on the ML
15:42:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> spaghetti chaos near 09 SL :D
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15:44:56  <PublicServer> <mfb> ICE10 got problems with the SL exit
15:45:47  <PublicServer> <mfb> ok
15:45:51  <PublicServer> <mfb> changing the wooden bridge helped
15:45:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> seems fine here :O
15:46:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wooden bridge where?
15:46:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> near ruston
15:46:14  <PublicServer> <mfb> is silicon tubular now
15:46:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol
15:47:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> 46k transported now :)
15:47:49  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh founding towns is possible now
15:47:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah
15:48:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i should turn that off really :P
15:48:06  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch found_town 0
15:48:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i used it to create a bigger CBD for ICE 10 :P
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16:00:21  <TWerkhoven> !password
16:00:21  <PublicServer> TWerkhoven: rasped
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16:00:53  <Jkrueger> realistic acceleration is win
16:01:07  <Archimedes> I expected the password to change daily but it's much more frequently it seems.
16:01:13  <PublicServer> <mfb> ~15min
16:01:33  <Jkrueger> sucks when it changes right after your get it
16:01:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> v true
16:01:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but you don't need the password to join
16:02:03  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
16:02:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the password finger
16:02:24  <mfb-> ?
16:02:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> if you use an autostart program you can ask for the password finger
16:02:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> type the URL in and it gets it for you
16:03:04  <PublicServer> <mfb> can change anyway
16:03:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth><your key>
16:03:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> then you never need it again
16:03:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ever
16:06:16  <mfb-> interesting
16:07:49  <Jkrueger> !genkey
16:07:49  <PublicServer> Jkrueger: you must be channel op to use !genkey
16:07:50  <hylje> XeryusTC: dealing with inconsistency includes dealing with things that normally cause desync
16:08:37  <mfb-> is there any explanation how to use this in the game?
16:08:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> use what mfb?
16:08:59  <mfb-> the key from genkey
16:09:07  <Chris_Booth> aaah, no
16:09:18  <Chris_Booth> its depends on your OS
16:09:36  <Chris_Booth> and what script you use to start openttd
16:09:53  <Chris_Booth> I can tell you how to use it on opettdAU
16:10:06  <Chris_Booth> but never used it in anything else
16:10:15  <mfb-> does not look like something for windows
16:10:21  <Chris_Booth> it is
16:10:28  <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven has joined company #1
16:10:29  <mfb-> oh ok
16:10:34  <Chris_Booth> !dl
16:10:34  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
16:10:34  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth:
16:10:43  <Chris_Booth> !dl ottdau mfb
16:10:43  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth:
16:10:54  <Chris_Booth> use that to download openttd version
16:12:08  <Chris_Booth> mfb:
16:12:19  <Chris_Booth> very easy to set up
16:12:37  <Chris_Booth> works on PZ aswell
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16:16:59  <PublicServer> <mfb> very nice
16:17:15  <mfb-> thanks
16:18:41  <Chris_Booth> no problem
16:19:09  <Chris_Booth> mfb for PZ
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16:26:58  <TWerkhoven> is the genkey available for members only or can they set one up for others?
16:27:10  <XeryusTC> we can set them up for you
16:27:40  <TWerkhoven> can you please?
16:29:34  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00006C42:
16:30:12  <MrD2DG> Me 2 please?
16:30:35  <MrD2DG> Easier than having to open a browser and coming here when I want to join...
16:31:12  <TWerkhoven> im in here anyway, but it stops the pw from changing between asking and entering it in ottd
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16:42:40  <Andel> Hullo
16:42:51  <Andel> does anyone know of an openttd is server?
16:42:54  <XeryusTC> yo Andel :)
16:42:56  <V453000> [18:30] <MrD2DG> Easier than having to open a browser and coming here when I want to join... <--- You are supposed to be in the channel ALWAYS_
16:43:04  <V453000> when in game ofc
16:43:15  <mfb-> "is server"?
16:43:49  <V453000> !password
16:43:50  <PublicServer> V453000: towels
16:44:02  <MrD2DG> Channel always?
16:44:03  <Andel> hello XeryusTC
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16:44:10  <V453000> Always when in game
16:44:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> and hi :p
16:44:27  <MrD2DG> Im talking about when entering a game
16:44:29  <mfb-> 24 hours a day, without sleep, of course
16:44:34  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00005E34:
16:44:36  <Andel> of course
16:44:37  <Andel> hmmm
16:44:39  <MrD2DG> I cant be in game without a password...
16:44:42  <MrD2DG> :)
16:44:48  <V453000> ...
16:45:16  <MrD2DG> ...
16:45:43  <XeryusTC> dinner time
16:46:17  <XeryusTC> V, watch ICE 16 for me if you can
16:46:24  <XeryusTC> i just changed the trams :P
16:46:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> what happens there
16:47:06  <Andel> Does anyone use infrastructure sharing ever?
16:47:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh never mind
16:47:28  <V453000> infrastructure sharing is utterly stupid, we play in one company instead
16:47:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'm eating my dinner here so i can watch it myself :P
16:47:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
16:47:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> check the orders of the trams though
16:48:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> they be awesome
16:48:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
16:48:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> I believe I used something similar on some of my RVs
16:48:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> 314 for example
16:49:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, you have those weird orders :P
16:49:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> where you group everything
16:49:26  <Andel> @V453000 not really, I liked the idea of competing but sharing tracks and stations, paying each other for that use
16:49:30  <Andel> sorry
16:49:38  <V453000> yes, I think it is retarded, sorry
16:49:44  <Andel> stupid people putting things on IT kit
16:49:47  <XeryusTC> Andel: WWOTTDGD had infra sharing
16:49:54  <Andel> WWOTTGD?!
16:50:00  <XeryusTC> the patch/binaries are outdated though
16:50:04  <XeryusTC> world wide ottd game day :P
16:50:09  <Andel> What Would Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe Go Do?
16:50:11  <Andel> oh right
16:50:29  <Andel> when was that
16:50:34  <XeryusTC> where it was possible to play with like 50 people on the same server
16:50:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> few years back?
16:50:38  <XeryusTC> because of some patch
16:50:44  <XeryusTC> at least a year and a half ago
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16:51:17  <Andel> oh that sucks
16:51:31  <MrD2DG> I wanna play a IS game too, think it would be good
16:51:40  <Andel> I really need to get a server lol
16:51:56  <XeryusTC> if you're nice you could use our dev server :P
16:53:09  <MrD2DG> :D
16:53:17  <Andel> please Mr XeryusTC :P
16:53:45  <Andel> I have OpenTTDIS 2.1.1 here
16:53:51  <Andel> and a lot of gruffs
16:53:54  <XeryusTC> i think you need to talk to Ammler or planetmaker for that as they mainly manage that
16:54:04  <XeryusTC> and know what is currently going on on that server :P
16:54:27  <Andel> oh I see - offer something and then tell me its not yours to offer :P:P:P:P
16:54:38  <Andel> hehehe
16:54:40  <Andel> okidoke
16:54:41  <XeryusTC> :D
16:54:47  <MrD2DG> YACD
16:54:51  <XeryusTC> well, i can offer it, it is just that i'm not in charge :P
16:55:02  <MrD2DG> Went to play but noone was there :/
16:55:07  <Andel> okidoke
16:55:14  <Andel> Ammler??
16:55:15  <XeryusTC> probably not being used atm
16:55:19  <Jkrueger> !gap 5 17
16:55:20  <PublicServer> Jkrueger: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 17.
16:55:44  <Andel> planetmaker?
16:56:29  <MrD2DG> ^ Coop admin
16:56:52  <Andel> indeed
16:56:59  <Andel> I was hollaring him
16:57:05  <MrD2DG> Oh :P
16:57:21  <Andel> :P
16:58:36  <V453000> MrD2DG: then join
16:58:41  <Archimedes> What is the response you get for "!gap" supposed to mean?
16:58:42  <V453000> there are people atm
16:59:05  <XeryusTC> Archimedes: the amount of bridges you need if you want to double bridges
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17:02:19  <TWerkhoven> !password
17:02:19  <PublicServer> TWerkhoven: vulgar
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17:03:35  <Archimedes> So the response Jkrueger got would mean that with a TL of 5 and a gap of 17 Fields without any signals he'd need 3 bridges?
17:03:52  <MrD2DG> Yes
17:04:01  <Jkrueger> or tunnels
17:04:01  <Archimedes> Nice.
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17:09:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, ice 6 needs an expansion :o
17:12:07  <Archimedes> !gap 64 122
17:12:07  <PublicServer> Archimedes: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 64 and gap 122.
17:12:57  <Archimedes> If that is true I really should rework my signaling.
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17:56:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> XeryusTC: you need to add a 2nd entrance to ICE 10
17:59:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> probably, yes
17:59:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but it is hard to put another entrance on the ML
17:59:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> probably, 24k zombie is a yes I should get on the that now#
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18:02:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it has gotten up to 35k
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18:11:46  <Jkrueger> yay 3rd sml ring in
18:12:02  <Jkrueger> was a bit more aggressive on the TF but still looks alright
18:13:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> where?
18:13:14  <Jkrueger> of course by the time i figure this stuff out we won't be building it next game
18:13:22  <Jkrueger> off line practice game
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18:18:43  <Archimedes> By the time if figure this stuff out ... nobody is going to play openttd anymore. ;)
18:18:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :P
18:18:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there is a wiki page about it
18:19:38  <Jkrueger> yeah wiki is helpful
18:20:14  <Jkrueger> XeryusTC: would you mind taking a look and tell me if i fubar'd the whole idea?
18:20:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> depends on what you're working on
18:21:02  <Jkrueger> SML
18:23:31  <Jkrueger> not sure if you can receive DCC transfer but worth a shot
18:23:52  <Jkrueger> else where do you upload things theses days? putfile died
18:24:20  <XeryusTC> our image thing :P
18:25:14  <Jkrueger> how do i get there?
18:25:23  <XeryusTC> uhm
18:25:27  <XeryusTC> i think
18:25:33  <XeryusTC> but i'm not really an sml expert
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18:29:50  <Archimedes> Most of the time I (at least) get the basic concept. I'm just not good a replicating it (and definitly not at altering it so it fits into my network). Maybe I just lack some experience.
18:31:09  <Jkrueger>
18:31:49  <Jkrueger> i assume there is a way to make the SLH a bit more compact
18:33:36  <planetmaker> Andel: what was it?
18:34:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the person who decided to not give 09's sbahn shared rings must die :(
18:34:48  <Chris_Booth> mfb
18:35:20  <Jkrueger> !password
18:35:20  <PublicServer> Jkrueger: nutted
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18:35:57  <planetmaker> Andel: the IS patch is somewhat outdated... too outdated to be really fun anymore
18:36:24  <Jkrueger> what is IS?
18:36:39  <hylje> infrastructure sharing
18:36:47  <Jkrueger> I see.
18:36:47  <MrD2DG> How outdated is it?
18:36:50  <hylje> running your trains on others' tracks and vice versa
18:36:53  <planetmaker> 1.5 years
18:37:05  <MrD2DG> :/
18:37:28  <MrD2DG> That dreams out the window then...
18:37:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you can still get it
18:37:57  <MrD2DG> I have got it :)
18:38:25  <MrD2DG> But sharing infrastructure with yourself is sorta... well pointless :P
18:38:55  <planetmaker> :-)
18:39:21  <planetmaker> well, there are patch packs which still use it. Like Chills PP
18:40:50  <MrD2DG> Might try one later then
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18:41:18  <Jkrueger> lunch time cya later
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18:42:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ICE10 should have more traffic now :D
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18:47:44  <Archimedes> I do think your games are great but would anyone happen to know if there is a better server browser somewhere?
18:48:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC>
18:52:12  <Archimedes> Thanks XeryusTC. Though it doesn't have any more filtering options. I was hoping to filter out servers that have inflation on and realistic acceleration off
18:53:28  <planetmaker> there's no better server browser afaik
18:53:41  <planetmaker> especially as available servers change by the 10 seconds
18:53:47  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch yapf.rail_pbs_signal_back_penalty
18:53:47  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'yapf.rail_pbs_signal_back_penalty' is: '1000' (min: 0, max: 1000000)
18:54:07  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch yapf.rail_station_penalty
18:54:07  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'yapf.rail_station_penalty' is: '3000' (min: 0, max: 1000000)
18:54:52  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch yapf.rail_pbs_signal_back_penalty 2000
18:56:27  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch yapf.rail_pbs_signal_back_penalty 1500
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18:57:00  <wall-d> hi
18:57:03  <wall-d> !password
18:57:03  <PublicServer> wall-d: icicle
18:57:13  <Archimedes> Okay. Thaks. I guess I just have to keep looking for a good one or start playing here. ,)
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18:57:34  <MrD2DG> Play here, this is a good one :P
18:57:43  <MrD2DG> & Hi wall-d
18:57:57  <wall-d> thx
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19:17:50  <V453000> !password
19:17:50  <PublicServer> V453000: hunter
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19:18:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
19:18:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hey V
19:18:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ice 2 needs upgradign :o
19:18:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> letting more trains in
19:19:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i fixed ice 10 too :P
19:19:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
19:20:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it required some destroying of the city thougH :P
19:20:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> slaughter <3
19:21:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> people who grow their city against the ML should be killed :P
19:21:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
19:21:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> right V ;)
19:21:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> Evil will always find the way. (Particularly with magic dozer.)
19:22:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ICE 8's sbahn is set up weirdly too
19:25:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> looks nice in the end though
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20:13:21  <Twerkhoven[L]> !password
20:13:21  <PublicServer> Twerkhoven[L]: unsays
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21:13:28  <PublicServer> <Wall-D> lets grow Sardtown :-)
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22:15:38  <MrD2DG> No goodbye? :P
22:15:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nope :P
22:16:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> was getting annoyed
22:16:24  <MrD2DG> Lol I'm just saying nothing and connecting mines :D
22:16:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I am saying nothing an leaving
22:17:04  <MrD2DG> :P
22:17:06  <Chris_Booth> not inviting troy again
22:17:38  <MrD2DG> Lol
22:17:45  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost)
22:17:47  <MrD2DG> Well he sorta invited himself
22:17:53  <Chris_Booth> well I am off now
22:17:55  <Chris_Booth> nn all
22:17:59  <MrD2DG> BB
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22:43:56  <PublicServer> <Wall-D> anyone building anything?
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22:50:18  <PublicServer> <Wall-D> bye @ all
22:54:23  <MrD2DG> BB
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