Log for #openttdcoop on 30th July 2011:
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09:44:03  <Callidus> Oh dear. so many so early in the morning.
09:44:26  <Callidus> Anyone awake, waking up or whatever time it is there (for those outside the states)
09:45:06  <planetmaker> it's about noon, I'd say ;-)
09:45:33  <Callidus> ahh
09:45:37  <planetmaker> And my bet is that that holds true for >= 80% of this channel
09:45:39  <Callidus> 6 am here on eastern us
09:45:43  <Callidus> probably
09:45:50  <planetmaker> :-O that IS early
09:45:54  <Callidus> its late
09:45:56  <Callidus> i havent slept
09:46:01  <Callidus> got friends to play ottd
09:46:11  <Callidus> one took to it well but only uses buses
09:46:24  <Callidus> complained when the super 8 monorail slammed into every one without stopping xD
09:46:51  <Callidus> Ive discovered the rediculous money to be made by using trolly cars to ferry huge people to the mega huge outside the city
09:46:59  <Callidus> mega hub*
09:48:11  <Callidus> anyway
09:48:20  <Callidus> I dont make awesome things anymore xD
09:48:34  <Callidus> i use to make really good systems but i lost my touch I guess
09:48:46  <Callidus> now everything i make ends up backwards xD
09:49:01  <Callidus> I was hopeing i could learn though, is this a good place to look?
09:52:50  <Callidus> and i killed the chat. great. xD
10:06:02  <Callidus> going to sleep. I will return some other time and see if anyone is around to talk.
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17:37:24  <V453000> !password
17:37:24  <PublicServer> V453000: feudal
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17:40:29  <Chris_Booth> hi V453000
17:40:34  <V453000> hello
17:40:53  <Chris_Booth> if you want to kill this game the wiki is writen
17:41:06  <Chris_Booth> there was a game floating around in the IRC logs that I posted
17:41:10  <V453000> why me
17:41:16  <Chris_Booth> you know how to
17:41:23  <Chris_Booth> mfb and sylf don't
17:41:33  <Chris_Booth> and no one else seems interested
17:41:44  <V453000> well if one of them is around I can show them
17:41:59  <V453000> just like others can
17:42:32  <Chris_Booth> not my issue, I wasn't one moaning for a new game
17:42:47  <V453000> guess there is no map as well eh
17:42:57  <Chris_Booth> [18:40]	Chris_Booth	there was a game floating around in the IRC logs that I posted
17:43:13  <Chris_Booth> I posted one yesterday
17:43:32  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00018F45:
17:43:37  <V453000> yes, tropic again with NARS ... wtf
17:43:41  <V453000> that is not a map
17:43:51  <Chris_Booth> whats wrong with Tropic and NARS?
17:44:16  <V453000> boring as hell? or you need some extra mountains and/or scenario
17:45:12  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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17:45:15  <Chris_Booth> its better than anything that anyone else has offerend
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17:45:40  <V453000> I guess
17:45:46  <V453000> which is also very nice
17:46:27  <Chris_Booth> I had an idea for the map
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17:46:36  <Chris_Booth> which is why it is in that shape
17:46:48  <V453000> it has a shape?
17:47:00  <mfb-> :D
17:47:06  <Chris_Booth> yes
17:47:13  <Chris_Booth> it is square
17:47:19  <Chris_Booth> with lost of flat land
17:47:29  <Chris_Booth> as I wanted a game with long trains
17:48:03  <V453000> what should I say on that :-D
17:48:37  <Chris_Booth> nothing since I would guess you are not going to play it
17:49:42  <V453000> hm, is that a reason to make a dumb map?
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17:50:10  <Chris_Booth> is the map dumb?
17:50:19  <Chris_Booth> I never thought the map had a mind
17:51:10  <Chris_Booth> but I don't think the map is a bad map to play
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17:54:05  <V453000> just solve this yourselves, you dont need me for that
17:58:32  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00018B46:
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18:44:05  <XeryusTC> !password
18:44:05  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: feudal
18:44:13  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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18:44:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Well, that is a very nice network you have there ~ssssssssss~
18:44:49  <Chris_Booth> it is a nice network
18:45:13  <V453000> :D XeryusTC and minecraft?
18:45:20  <XeryusTC> yeah :P
18:45:31  <V453000> isn't that too ... "vertical" for dutch?
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18:45:48  <XeryusTC> xD
18:47:15  <Chris_Booth> what is this Minecraft?
18:48:01  <TWerkhoven> who sais mines are vertical?
18:48:17  <XeryusTC> hmm
18:48:21  <XeryusTC> we need a new map
18:48:30  <XeryusTC> so i can record myself building a big junction
18:48:34  <^Spike^> :)
18:48:37  <XeryusTC> make a time lapse out of it
18:48:41  <XeryusTC> and put it on youtube
18:48:46  <^Spike^> and leave agian for x months? :D
18:48:58  <XeryusTC> then i do ????
18:49:02  <V453000> XeryusTC: just make a map
18:49:05  <XeryusTC> and then i real in massive internet money profit
18:49:09  <^Spike^> timelapse....
18:49:17  <^Spike^> how do you make timelapse then? :)
18:49:18  <XeryusTC> V453000: random generator? :P
18:49:23  <V453000> sure thing
18:49:25  <XeryusTC> Adobe Premiere <3
18:49:36  <V453000> I liked Vegas better
18:49:45  <XeryusTC> you edit the video here and there, and then you speed it up
18:49:50  <^Spike^> ..... :)
18:49:58  <Chris_Booth> XeryusTC: you might be better off watching others build a big hub XD
18:50:10  <XeryusTC>
18:50:11  <Webster> Title: Minecraft Timelapse - New Haven Final - YouTube (at
18:50:27  <XeryusTC> you see, a HD timelapse of minecraft
18:51:29  <Webster> Latest update from openttd: OpenTTD 1.1.2-RC2 <>
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18:53:24  <^Spike^> aha...
18:53:35  <^Spike^> does a movie of ottd development count? :)
18:57:17  <^Spike^> that's also a sort of timelapse.. :)
18:57:31  <XeryusTC> xD
18:57:48  <XeryusTC> V453000: has this game been archived yet then?
18:57:52  <^Spike^> only i don't think youtube like 1080p clips :)
18:58:01  <V453000> XeryusTC: I have no clue, check yourself
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18:58:09  <^Spike^> so... need to find another way to prob distribute something like that :)
18:58:09  <XeryusTC> xD
18:58:14  <XeryusTC> you were in charge of such stuff
18:58:21  <XeryusTC> as you are the only member who actually plays
18:58:30  <XeryusTC> 1080p is slow on my pc anyway
18:58:41  <XeryusTC> as it has to resize the video to 1440x900
18:58:56  <^Spike^> :) if i try to release such a clip it needs some probably also need to create a smaller version anyway.. :)
18:59:13  <V453000> XeryusTC: which is untrue for quite some time already ;)
18:59:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, youtube makes all resolutions below the one you uploaded automatically
18:59:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> when you upload a video you get a message that it'll take about 2 hours before it is available in all resolutions
18:59:52  <^Spike^> thanks for giving me the idea of also starting a 720p version XeryusTC :)
18:59:58  <^Spike^> keeps my VM busy
19:00:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> what are you recording now then?
19:00:46  <^Spike^> same thing just in 720p :)
19:00:58  <Chris_Booth> XeryusTC: what would be quite cool is a few timelasp clients on major areas of the map
19:01:10  <Chris_Booth> on some BBHs
19:01:13  <Chris_Booth> on some Stations
19:01:15  <XeryusTC> yeah
19:01:26  <XeryusTC> i thought about running a seperate client for it
19:01:32  <Chris_Booth> and mayby on of the mini map
19:01:36  <XeryusTC> but that would get quite heavy once the traffic gets going
19:01:51  <XeryusTC> and it might be more interesting to follow the person building it as the camera follows too etc
19:01:53  <Chris_Booth> the client doesn't need to run
19:02:04  <Chris_Booth> you could make it connect when the server is generaly off
19:03:00  <XeryusTC> V453000: could you archive the game?
19:03:05  <XeryusTC> i have no clue how to do it anymore
19:03:11  <V453000> do you have a new map?
19:03:22  <planetmaker> hm, should we update here, too?
19:03:29  <V453000> pm: sure thing :)
19:03:38  <Chris_Booth> I would guess so this is a very old nightly
19:04:01  <planetmaker> !revision
19:04:01  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Game version is r22637
19:04:07  <planetmaker> not new
19:04:22  <planetmaker> 363 revisions behind
19:05:19  <Chris_Booth> any new features in the last 360 revisions?
19:05:57  <V453000> you cant build rails anymore
19:06:05  <V453000> was too unrealistic
19:06:24  <XeryusTC> V453000: lets generate a random map? :P
19:06:24  <Chris_Booth> aaah do you need lost of planing consent
19:06:39  <Chris_Booth> XeryusTC: you still need to pick the GRFs
19:06:41  <XeryusTC> or do something silly like 256x1024 :P i know you like that
19:06:50  <XeryusTC> Chris_Booth: true
19:06:50  <V453000> XeryusTC: sure, but after you upload it then I can archive it :P
19:06:58  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (leaving)
19:06:58  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
19:09:00  <planetmaker> !rcon save continue
19:09:01  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Saving map...
19:09:01  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Map successfully saved to continue.sav
19:09:04  <planetmaker> !restart
19:09:04  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
19:10:02  <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
19:10:02  <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r22637.
19:10:06  <PublicServer> Server has exited
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19:10:17  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
19:10:17  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server ('
19:10:17  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG209 (r22700) | STAGE: Finalizing | | New players, use @quickstart and !help |"
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19:10:23  <planetmaker> !rcon load continue
19:10:36  <PublicServer> planetmaker: server_pw thrive
19:10:36  <PublicServer> planetmaker: alias ap_cmd "%+ ; echo donecapture"
19:10:36  <PublicServer> planetmaker: debug_level "0"
19:10:36  <PublicServer> planetmaker: server_info
19:10:36  <PublicServer> planetmaker: dbg: [net] Starting dedicated version r22700
19:10:37  <PublicServer> planetmaker: dbg: [net] [core] starting network...
19:10:37  <PublicServer> planetmaker: dbg: [net] [udp] initializing listeners
19:10:39  <PublicServer> planetmaker: dbg: [net] [core] network online, multiplayer available
19:10:39  <PublicServer> planetmaker: dbg: [net] Detected broadcast addresses:
19:10:41  <PublicServer> planetmaker: dbg: [net] 0)
19:10:41  <PublicServer> planetmaker: you have 22 more messages
19:11:03  <XeryusTC> nice :D
19:11:42  <Ammler> this happens, if you execute !-commands too early
19:11:51  <planetmaker> :-)
19:11:56  <planetmaker> impatient kid :-P
19:12:05  <Ammler> well, it is broken now
19:12:12  <Ammler> you need to restart
19:12:13  <V453000> at least me is innocent
19:12:13  <planetmaker> !restart
19:12:13  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
19:12:18  <^Spike^> we got someone to fix it! right pm? :)
19:12:24  <planetmaker> V453000: hardly ;-)
19:12:25  <^Spike^> as you're the dev here aswell ;)
19:12:28  <Ammler> ^Spike^: yes, please do
19:12:29  <V453000> :D
19:12:45  <^Spike^> i'm more for the backend systems :D
19:12:52  <Ammler> my fis was to announce when you can start with !-commands
19:12:56  <Ammler> fix*
19:13:02  <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
19:13:54  <Chris_Booth> wow now you are all here
19:14:02  <Chris_Booth> its like a bus in london
19:14:18  <Chris_Booth> you want one and then 5 come along
19:15:04  <planetmaker> hm... will there be a server restart or no?
19:15:09  <planetmaker> !rcon restart
19:15:09  <PublicServer> planetmaker: ‎*** Game paused (number of players)
19:15:09  <PublicServer> planetmaker: say "<XeryusTC> nice :D"
19:15:09  <PublicServer> planetmaker: ‎[All] PublicServer: <XeryusTC> nice :D
19:15:09  <PublicServer> planetmaker: say "<Ammler> this happens, if you execute !-commands too early"
19:15:09  <PublicServer> planetmaker: ‎[All] PublicServer: <Ammler> this happens, if you execute !-commands too early
19:15:11  <PublicServer> planetmaker: say "<planetmaker> :-)"
19:15:11  <PublicServer> planetmaker: ‎[All] PublicServer: <planetmaker> :-)
19:15:13  <PublicServer> planetmaker: say "<planetmaker> impatient kid :-P"
19:15:13  <PublicServer> planetmaker: ‎[All] PublicServer: <planetmaker> impatient kid :-P
19:15:15  <PublicServer> planetmaker: say "<Ammler> well, it is broken now"
19:15:15  <PublicServer> planetmaker: you have 31 more messages
19:15:29  <Chris_Booth> why does it do that?
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19:15:53  <Ammler> I said, you broke it :-P
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19:15:56  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
19:15:56  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server ('
19:15:56  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG209 (r22700) | STAGE: Finalizing | | New players, use @quickstart and !help |"
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19:16:01  <Ammler> please wait...
19:16:04  <Chris_Booth> it wasn't me
19:16:06  <Ammler> hmm
19:16:20  <Chris_Booth> I did type anything with ! in it
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19:16:33  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
19:16:33  <PublicServer> Starting new game: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server ('
19:16:33  <PublicServer> Landscape: normal
19:16:33  <PublicServer> Dimensions: 512x512
19:16:33  <PublicServer> Starting year: 1980
19:16:33  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer
19:16:33  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG209 (r22700) | STAGE: Finalizing | | New players, use @quickstart and !help |"
19:17:11  <Ammler> well, highlights :-)
19:17:54  <planetmaker> !rcon load continue
19:17:56  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
19:18:31  <Chris_Booth> you can't blame me for something I didn't do
19:18:42  <planetmaker> of course I can :-)
19:18:48  <planetmaker> The world simply isn't just :-P
19:19:06  <Chris_Booth> planetmaker: we know you can blame me for something I didn't do
19:19:10  <Chris_Booth> or didn't mean to do
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19:19:17  <Chris_Booth> but I was talking about Ammler
19:19:23  <planetmaker> see. Good that we agree ;-)
19:19:31  <XeryusTC> i made a map me
19:19:39  <planetmaker> ah, Ammler may blame people here, too
19:19:41  <^Spike^> cb without you here it's hard to blame on somebody :)
19:19:48  <planetmaker> he's our grandpa here.
19:20:07  <Chris_Booth> pppf, and I am the annoying child that is blamed even if it isn't my fault
19:20:14  <^Spike^> ;)
19:20:19  <planetmaker> loool :-)
19:20:21  * Chris_Booth slaps ^Spike^
19:20:36  <Ammler> is the screenshoter broken?
19:20:42  <planetmaker> dunno?
19:20:43  <Chris_Booth> !screen
19:20:43  <PublicServer> *** Chris_Booth liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (
19:20:48  <Chris_Booth> I guess not
19:20:53  <planetmaker> did work today and now
19:20:58  <Ammler> seems not
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19:21:07  <Ammler> I mean, seems not working
19:21:10  <Callidus> hello
19:21:15  <Ammler> salü
19:21:19  <Chris_Booth> yes seems not to be working
19:21:34  <Ammler> planetmaker: no patches applied?
19:21:46  <planetmaker> I just called update
19:21:54  <planetmaker> no revert no nothing
19:21:57  <XeryusTC> do we have a good place to upload the new game to?
19:21:58  <Callidus> I stumbled on your guys website and saw a few of the things there I wanted to try
19:21:59  <Ammler> ok,
19:22:10  <planetmaker> update doesn't revert, does it?
19:22:17  <planetmaker> or I mis-remember that :-)
19:22:18  <Ammler> planetmaker: no clue
19:22:21  <Chris_Booth> XeryusTC: use a public web location and use !getsave
19:22:22  <planetmaker> :-D
19:22:23  <^Spike^> ./update?
19:22:26  <Ammler> the output should tell
19:22:27  <Callidus> Im still trying to learn ottd more, but ive got the basics and most intermediate skills down
19:22:31  <planetmaker> I though you wrote that script, Ammler ;-)
19:22:31  <^Spike^> as far as i know it doesn't
19:22:34  <Ammler> yes
19:22:40  <Chris_Booth> XeryusTC: dropbox is ideal
19:22:44  <Ammler> you know all your scripts?
19:22:44  <Callidus> am i interupting something?
19:22:52  <^Spike^> pm wasn't the scripting commented properly? ;)
19:22:52  <Chris_Booth> no you are not Callidus
19:23:01  <Chris_Booth> just come in the middle of the admins breaking everything
19:23:04  <Callidus> lol
19:23:06  <Callidus> thats fine
19:23:13  <planetmaker> ^Spike^: I don't need to read the update script to call it
19:23:14  <Callidus> admins do that from time to time.
19:23:18  <^Spike^> that's what admins are for... break stuff and blame users for breaking :)
19:23:19  <Chris_Booth> yep
19:23:20  <planetmaker> I don't even need to know where it resides
19:23:30  <Chris_Booth> Callidus: you can join us here, or watch us play here
19:23:30  <planetmaker> well... I do. ./update implies it
19:23:42  <Callidus> where is here?
19:23:43  <^Spike^> then it propbably resides in your current working folder :)
19:23:48  <Chris_Booth> they also run a sandbox server on #openttdcoop.stable
19:23:50  <Ammler> planetmaker: patches seems applied
19:23:50  <Callidus> the irc? or a gameserver?
19:24:03  <Chris_Booth> which is for the less experienced players
19:24:12  <Callidus> on 1.1.1?
19:24:17  <Chris_Booth> the game server is accessed via this IRC channel
19:24:20  <^Spike^> 1.1.2-rc2 it seems
19:24:22  <XeryusTC> Chris_Booth: i just need a place to upload the game to
19:24:27  <Chris_Booth> no it is running 1.1.2 rc2 on the stable server
19:24:29  <XeryusTC> as the blog is way too much of a hassle
19:24:42  <Callidus> i see
19:24:45  <^Spike^> XeryusTC i forgot the link and user/pass :)
19:24:50  <Chris_Booth> XeryusTC: use dropbox and !getsave <yourURL>
19:24:55  <Callidus> i need to redownload then, unless ottd has an update feature?
19:24:59  <Ammler> no, it wasn't
19:25:04  <Chris_Booth> you need to redownload
19:25:07  <Ammler> someone forgot to apply the patches
19:25:16  <Chris_Booth> this server is running a nightly which is called r22700
19:25:28  <Callidus> ok
19:25:52  <Callidus> subversion system or is it done through a webpage?
19:25:54  <Chris_Booth> but I would suggest looking at the stable server first Callidus
19:25:55  <Ammler> !restart
19:25:55  <PublicServer> Ammler: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
19:26:01  <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
19:26:01  <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r22700.
19:26:03  <Callidus> course
19:26:06  <PublicServer> Server has exited
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19:26:13  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
19:26:13  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server ('
19:26:13  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG209 (r22700) | STAGE: Finalizing | | New players, use @quickstart and !help |"
19:26:14  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer
19:26:19  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00000101:
19:26:23  <Chris_Booth> Callidus: both you can use SVN or premade brinary or self compile
19:26:30  <XeryusTC> !getsave
19:26:31  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: you must be channel op to use !getsave
19:26:34  <Ammler> !dl
19:26:34  <PublicServer> Ammler: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
19:26:34  <PublicServer> Ammler:
19:26:34  *** XeryusTC has left #openttdcoop
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19:26:34  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o XeryusTC
19:26:35  <Chris_Booth> just what ever you want to do
19:26:36  <XeryusTC> !getsave
19:26:36  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: OK :-)
19:26:40  <Callidus> thanks
19:26:41  <XeryusTC> good boy (Y)
19:26:49  <Callidus> ill join the rc server then
19:27:15  <Chris_Booth> XeryusTC: why put it in the wiki as and image?
19:27:20  <Chris_Booth> its not an image
19:27:25  <XeryusTC> its not an image
19:27:31  <Ammler> Callidus: Chris_Booth, those are different kind of servers
19:27:32  <XeryusTC> and i need to reupload anyway :P
19:27:49  <Ammler> if you want to play coop, you should stay here :-)
19:27:52  <XeryusTC> !getsave
19:27:53  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: OK :-)
19:27:56  <Callidus> oh
19:28:03  <Chris_Booth> the openttdcoop.stable server is a coop server
19:28:14  <Ammler> no
19:28:14  <Chris_Booth> that was where I pointed Callidus
19:28:21  <Chris_Booth> I gave him the IRC channel for it
19:28:30  <Ammler> well, some play coop there
19:28:45  <XeryusTC> this is true coop though
19:28:50  <Chris_Booth> most play coop there and they play in coop style
19:29:07  <Chris_Booth> they is no steeling and nice enough building style
19:29:11  <Chris_Booth> this is true coop
19:29:19  <Callidus> I was hopeing to observe this server
19:29:33  <Chris_Booth> you can do that
19:29:36  <Callidus> so i could see what levels your operating on and whats being done
19:29:45  <Chris_Booth> !dl
19:29:46  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
19:29:46  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth:
19:30:07  <Chris_Booth> Callidus: you should be able to find the openttd version for your os there
19:30:08  <Ammler> Callidus: watching is possible anyway
19:30:15  <Callidus> got it
19:30:17  <Chris_Booth> you also need to read the quickstart
19:30:21  <Chris_Booth> @quickstarrt
19:30:25  <Chris_Booth> @quickstart
19:30:26  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
19:31:09  <planetmaker> hm, a laptop shuts down unsurprising fast, if the battery is unplugged and you remove the power cord...
19:31:27  <Chris_Booth> yes it does
19:32:22  <Callidus> seems like this is all commen sense stuff for the most part
19:32:27  <Callidus> (the quickstart)
19:32:28  <Chris_Booth> yep
19:32:47  <Chris_Booth> just tells you what you need to join here and what they expect of you here
19:32:59  * Callidus nods
19:33:00  <Chris_Booth> I never read the quickstart
19:33:10  <Callidus> lol. just like the manual.
19:33:31  <Callidus> i take it im must drop the gfx into the nightly build for it to work?
19:34:18  <Chris_Booth> no you just put them in the public/data folder
19:34:35  <planetmaker> Callidus: use your general data folder
19:34:48  <planetmaker> no need to put grfs into a specific version's data foler
19:34:49  <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - (again, try !grf)
19:34:50  <planetmaker> *folder
19:39:47  <XeryusTC> anyway
19:39:53  <XeryusTC> someone managed to load my save yet?
19:40:12  <XeryusTC> !dl win64
19:40:12  <PublicServer> XeryusTC:
19:40:38  <Callidus> hmm
19:40:51  <Callidus> newgrf mismatch. did i miss something in the quickstart?
19:41:40  <Callidus> !grf
19:41:40  <PublicServer> Callidus: (Version 8.0)
19:42:02  <XeryusTC> did you update from Bananas?
19:42:19  <^Spike^> aka the Check Online Content button
19:42:22  <XeryusTC> otherwise i might`ve added a newgrf which i downloaded manually
19:42:39  <XeryusTC> !password
19:42:39  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: mislay
19:42:46  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
19:42:48  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game
19:42:52  <XeryusTC> oh, we`re still on the old game
19:42:58  <Callidus> i found the manual download
19:43:06  <Callidus> just trying to find the folder to drop it in
19:45:16  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (leaving)
19:47:08  <Callidus> even more interesting. my data folder seems to be inside content download and all files are zipped
19:47:43  <^Spike^> if you used the game to download just leave it
19:48:00  <Callidus> game cant find a few
19:48:08  <Callidus> having to manually install
19:48:20  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
19:48:22  <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game
19:48:25  <^Spike^> prob older versions then
19:50:38  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
19:51:04  <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (leaving)
19:51:49  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
19:52:05  <PublicServer> <Player> hello
19:52:35  <Callidus> made it in now i just got to smash nightly till it lets me change my player name again
19:55:03  <^Spike^> try pressing tilde and then type name newname
19:55:17  <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to callidus
19:55:21  <PublicServer> <callidus> thanks
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19:58:02  <PublicServer> <callidus> around what time can i expect the server to pickup?
19:58:10  <mfb-> ?
19:58:19  <PublicServer> <callidus> players to join essentialy
19:58:33  <PublicServer> <callidus> i want to see someone as they design something.
19:58:39  <PublicServer> <callidus> (also how often new games roll round)
20:04:29  <PublicServer> *** callidus has left the game (leaving)
20:09:07  <mfb-> well, the current game ist just waiting for a new one
20:09:40  <Callidus> ok i guess ill wait then
20:09:49  <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving)
20:12:43  * XeryusTC pokes v4
20:12:46  <XeryusTC> V453000:
20:12:54  <XeryusTC> also, why did i type a 4 instead of tab xD
20:13:30  <V453000> hm<
20:13:31  <V453000> ?
20:13:48  <^Spike^> XeryusTC that guy has more mail aliasses thanks to his zeros then there are total of aliases in general ;)
20:14:11  <^Spike^> i can know... i had to recreate them all :D
20:14:16  <Macha> !dl svn
20:14:16  <PublicServer> Macha: unknown option "svn"
20:14:28  <^Spike^> !dl lin
20:14:28  <PublicServer> ^Spike^:
20:14:33  <^Spike^> hmm
20:14:38  <^Spike^> !dl source
20:14:38  <PublicServer> ^Spike^:
20:14:40  <^Spike^> bleh
20:14:44  <Macha> What was the option to get the svn commands again? Could've sworn it was just svn
20:14:45  <^Spike^> there used to be one with svn
20:14:51  <Macha> Yeah, someone showed me last week
20:14:58  <^Spike^> !svn
20:14:58  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: svn update -r22700 && make && ./bin/openttd -n -p taboos
20:14:58  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: svn checkout -r22700 svn:// openttdcoop && cd openttdcoop && ./configure && make
20:14:58  <TWerkhoven> !dl
20:14:58  <PublicServer> TWerkhoven: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
20:14:58  <PublicServer> TWerkhoven:
20:15:00  <Callidus> !svn
20:15:00  <PublicServer> Callidus: svn update -r22700 && make && ./bin/openttd -n -p taboos
20:15:00  <PublicServer> Callidus: svn checkout -r22700 svn:// openttdcoop && cd openttdcoop && ./configure && make
20:15:00  <^Spike^> :D
20:15:04  <Macha> Ah, kk
20:15:21  <Callidus> mind me asking if its likely to see a new game today?
20:15:41  <^Spike^> well if it is loaded... it will need a moneymaker.... and plans... and voting...
20:15:43  <XeryusTC> V453000: can you archive the game
20:15:46  <TWerkhoven> new map at the most, if that
20:15:47  <XeryusTC> so i can load my save?
20:15:51  <V453000> !save
20:15:51  <PublicServer> Saving game...
20:15:58  <V453000> !transfer 209 game.sav
20:16:07  <TWerkhoven> theres still planning and voting to go through before building starts
20:16:11  <XeryusTC> wasnt 209 on it already?
20:16:13  <Callidus> of course
20:16:16  <V453000> wat :d
20:16:21  <V453000> !archive
20:16:21  <TWerkhoven> XeryusTC yes but no savegame
20:16:23  <V453000> !archives
20:16:23  <XeryusTC> TWerkhoven: i know :P
20:16:24  <TWerkhoven> just the wiki entry
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20:16:30  <XeryusTC> oh xD
20:16:33  <V453000> wtf..
20:16:36  <V453000> !ping
20:16:41  <Callidus> I was lead to believe the planning was a short process
20:16:41  <V453000> oh well
20:16:42  <PublicServer> V453000: PublicServerGame_209_Final.sav
20:16:42  <PublicServer> V453000: Transfer done. (/home/openttd/svn-publicserver/autopilot/save/game.sav->
20:16:42  <PublicServer> V453000: ssh: connect to host port 10822: Connection timed out
20:16:42  <PublicServer> V453000: /home/openttd/script/ line 67: [: -gt: unary operator expected
20:16:42  <PublicServer> V453000: ssh: connect to host port 10822: Connection timed out
20:16:43  <PublicServer> V453000: lost connection
20:16:43  <PublicServer> V453000: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | |
20:16:44  <XeryusTC> also, i know was for the planning etc
20:16:45  <PublicServer> V453000: pong
20:16:45  <V453000> right
20:16:48  <V453000> there we go
20:16:50  <Callidus> (not to say its not detailed)
20:16:51  <V453000> !gamenr
20:16:51  <PublicServer> V453000: This is game number: 209
20:16:58  <V453000> !gamenr 210
20:16:58  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has set gamenr to 210 (next !restart)
20:17:01  <XeryusTC> Callidus: planning can take days nowadays :s
20:17:04  <Callidus> D:
20:17:05  <V453000> XeryusTC: your turn :)
20:17:12  <XeryusTC> well, mainly voting takes day
20:17:13  <XeryusTC> +s
20:17:16  <^Spike^> only needs a server restart niw V :)
20:17:23  <^Spike^> now*
20:17:32  <V453000> just type !restart to solve? :)
20:17:40  <^Spike^> that's too easy... ;)
20:17:52  <Callidus> how long do the games themselves last?
20:17:57  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
20:18:00  <Macha> Needs a "Halt and catch fire" instruction somewhere :P
20:18:03  <Macha> Callidus: Weeks
20:18:04  <^Spike^> deoens... can be from 1 week to several week
20:18:09  <XeryusTC> !restart
20:18:09  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
20:18:10  <^Spike^> depends*
20:18:20  <Callidus> and where is the current game sitting?
20:19:01  <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
20:19:01  <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r22700.
20:19:06  <PublicServer> Server has exited
20:19:07  *** PublicServer has quit IRC
20:19:13  *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop
20:19:13  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
20:19:13  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server ('
20:19:13  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG210 (r22700) | STAGE: Finalizing | | New players, use @quickstart and !help |"
20:19:13  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer
20:19:17  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00020502:
20:19:52  <Callidus> !password
20:19:52  <PublicServer> Callidus: jinxes
20:20:24  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:20:27  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game
20:20:53  <PublicServer> *** callidus joined the game
20:20:54  <V453000> !dl win64
20:20:55  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:20:55  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
20:20:57  <PublicServer> *** Macha joined the game
20:20:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> his is not the map
20:20:59  <PublicServer> V453000:
20:21:04  <V453000> load it then
20:21:09  <V453000> or check if it was loaded properly
20:21:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah
20:21:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is a bit wonky though :P
20:21:23  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
20:21:26  <XeryusTC> !password
20:21:26  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: jinxes
20:21:29  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:21:31  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:21:32  <PublicServer> *** callidus joined the game
20:21:34  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game
20:21:38  <XeryusTC> hmm
20:21:51  <XeryusTC> what was the content update command again?
20:21:52  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:22:10  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:22:12  <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game
20:22:16  <^Spike^> !content
20:22:17  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Connection established
20:22:17  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
20:22:17  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
20:22:17  <V453000> !content
20:22:19  <PublicServer> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
20:22:19  <^Spike^> !content
20:22:21  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Expect timeout triggered!
20:22:23  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Expect timeout triggered!
20:22:23  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
20:22:23  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Expect timeout triggered!
20:22:23  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
20:22:37  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:22:38  <XeryusTC> hmm
20:22:39  <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven joined the game
20:22:41  <XeryusTC> !restart
20:22:41  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
20:22:51  <XeryusTC> i think ap is a bit broken xD
20:23:01  <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
20:23:02  <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r22700.
20:23:02  <^Spike^> ap always does that with content
20:23:06  <PublicServer> Server has exited
20:23:07  *** PublicServer has quit IRC
20:23:11  <mfb-> strange
20:23:13  *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop
20:23:14  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
20:23:14  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server ('
20:23:14  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG210 (r22700) | STAGE: Finalizing | | New players, use @quickstart and !help |"
20:23:14  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer
20:23:17  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00020502:
20:23:23  <XeryusTC> yeah, but it also does that when running normal commands
20:23:25  <mfb-> !password
20:23:25  <PublicServer> mfb-: ravage
20:23:29  <XeryusTC> before it did it like once every few days
20:23:29  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:23:34  <XeryusTC> and before that it never did it
20:23:40  <XeryusTC> like spamming the entire console
20:23:46  <Callidus> !password
20:23:46  <PublicServer> Callidus: ravage
20:24:02  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:24:04  <PublicServer> *** callidus joined the game
20:24:20  <V453000> you need to restart btw to load the content
20:24:32  <^Spike^> V look up at what he did already :D
20:24:49  <V453000> oh :)
20:24:58  <Ammler> yes, !content is broken
20:25:01  <^Spike^> @stage MM + Planning
20:25:01  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG210 (r22700) | STAGE: MM + Planning | | New players, use @quickstart and !help |"
20:25:21  <Ammler> not really easy to scriptable as it is kinda async or how that is called
20:25:43  <PublicServer> *** callidus has left the game (leaving)
20:26:00  <Callidus> this appears to have not been the best time for me to join xD
20:26:11  <Ammler> we still wait for somone who updates ap+ with new admin interface
20:26:22  <Ammler> Callidus: yes :-)
20:26:39  <Ammler> if you want to see something you need to wait until tomorrow evening
20:26:49  <Callidus> joy.
20:26:53  <^Spike^> ottd has the sort of remote admin possibility now right?
20:26:57  <Ammler> or check our archive
20:27:11  <Ammler> ^Spike^: almost a year now
20:27:28  <Ammler> but nobody is using it
20:27:32  <^Spike^> i haven't followed development for over 5-6 months :)
20:27:45  <Callidus> well then
20:27:58  <Callidus> i guess ill do singleplayer
20:28:04  <^Spike^> or try our stable server? :)
20:28:17  <Callidus> again, rollback
20:28:26  <^Spike^> or use multiple versions
20:28:33  <Callidus> i tried taht
20:28:35  <Callidus> that*
20:28:35  <TWerkhoven> or autottd
20:28:39  <Callidus> autottd?
20:28:44  <^Spike^> !dl
20:28:44  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
20:28:44  <PublicServer> ^Spike^:
20:28:48  <^Spike^> !dl autottd
20:28:48  <PublicServer> ^Spike^:
20:28:52  <^Spike^> !dl ittdau
20:28:52  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: unknown option "ittdau"
20:28:53  <^Spike^> !dl ottdau
20:28:53  <PublicServer> ^Spike^:
20:28:55  <planetmaker> Callidus: why rollback?
20:29:02  <Callidus> to play on stable
20:29:02  <planetmaker> just have all versions in parallel
20:29:06  <^Spike^> what he said
20:29:09  <^Spike^> just before i wanted to
20:29:11  <^Spike^> :)
20:29:13  <Callidus> i tried doing that
20:29:14  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
20:29:14  <^Spike^> argh you pm ;)
20:29:15  * planetmaker has about... 30
20:29:15  <TWerkhoven> program where you can enter servers, and itll maintain a working installation for that server
20:29:23  <Callidus> the rc overwrote the current
20:29:24  * ^Spike^ has i guess 4-6 :)
20:29:26  <XeryusTC> !password
20:29:26  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ravage
20:29:32  <planetmaker> Callidus: don't use the installer
20:29:37  <Callidus> didnt
20:29:39  <planetmaker> just unzip the game. And you're fine
20:29:41  <^Spike^> !dl win32
20:29:41  <PublicServer> ^Spike^:
20:29:43  <^Spike^> !dl win64
20:29:43  <PublicServer> ^Spike^:
20:29:46  <^Spike^> or whatever :)
20:29:47  <XeryusTC> ffs
20:30:01  <^Spike^> XeryusTC ?
20:30:04  <V453000> what hellish newgrf did you add XeryusTC
20:30:09  <^Spike^> lol
20:30:20  <XeryusTC> dunno actually
20:30:32  <Callidus> i tried unzipping to a seperate folder but it was missing gfx
20:30:44  <Callidus> so i was told to dump it into my game folder
20:30:46  <XeryusTC> might`ve added a few of the obsolete newgrfs
20:30:46  <^Spike^> you did unpack your grfs your my document/openttd etc etc?
20:31:15  <V453000> ERROR: Game Load Failed?NewGRF mismatch <--- What the hell! :D The log doesn't even say which newGRF hasn't been found anymore :d
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20:31:23  <TWerkhoven> what can cause a protocol error?
20:31:31  <V453000> XeryusTC: Ammler might have removed majority of obsolete stuff
20:31:39  <XeryusTC> probably
20:31:43  <XeryusTC> i will remove them from the save
20:31:59  <XeryusTC> and piss pm off because we will get bugs because we get bugs :P
20:32:26  <planetmaker> right...
20:33:15  * planetmaker should either install a new system or clone this
20:33:24  * planetmaker can't be bothered to do either now, though
20:33:52  <planetmaker> cloning nastily fails on too many nested symbolic links :S
20:34:05  <^Spike^> hehe
20:34:13  * ^Spike^ should think about dual boot again...
20:34:19  <hylje_> sounds like a symlink loop
20:34:20  <^Spike^> only well parents also use my pc.....
20:34:33  <planetmaker> yes, it's a symlink loop
20:34:50  <planetmaker> but it shouldn't fail a whole disk cloning...
20:35:04  <planetmaker> but it does. And funnily it does that at 95%
20:35:07  <XeryusTC> hmm, dropbox just made my task bar disapear
20:35:10  <hylje_> turns out stupid cloning software actually follows symlinks
20:35:14  <^Spike^> .........
20:35:16  <XeryusTC> and i have the same issue, i need to reinstal xD
20:35:20  * V453000 runs away from the IT freaks
20:35:24  <^Spike^> :D
20:35:31  <^Spike^> that's how we get V away
20:35:34  <^Spike^> we finally found it! :)
20:35:37  <Callidus> autottd end up not downloading revisions correctly
20:35:38  <TWerkhoven> lol
20:35:39  <planetmaker> :-D
20:35:40  <^Spike^> next time i just spam the munin links :D
20:35:59  <Callidus> looks like i have to manually download rc2
20:36:16  <V453000> yes, munin is freaking scary too
20:36:16  <^Spike^> seems Pm and XeryusTC and me have the same issue...
20:36:21  <^Spike^> need to reinstall but don't want to :D
20:36:24  <TWerkhoven> did you set the penttd release' to public server?
20:36:36  <XeryusTC> spike: i have to actually
20:36:44  <XeryusTC> i have been putting it off for at least 6 months xD
20:36:45  <Callidus> i was trying to go to welcome server
20:36:55  <Callidus> since public seems to be... having issues getting started
20:36:58  <XeryusTC> and now my system just runs crappy with 2 extra HDDs and everything having moved and stuff
20:37:07  <^Spike^> XeryusTC i have been since i started my graduation in february :)
20:37:18  <planetmaker> ^Spike^: I simply need an osx 10.7 to get a look at those reported bugs...
20:37:19  <^Spike^> which ended june.. :)
20:37:33  <^Spike^> oh wait yeah.. pm the mac guy.. :)
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20:38:24  <^Spike^> welll XeryusTC my pc just gets slow.... and well..... slower.... not to forget slow... :)
20:38:51  <^Spike^> i think after a reinstall i think: Ah couldn't have been better....
20:39:01  <^Spike^> but now i'm like crap need to reinstall all shit
20:39:06  <Chris_Booth[LP]> can we have PZ updated to the same nightly as this?
20:39:06  <^Spike^> don't wanna!
20:39:14  <XeryusTC> !getsave
20:39:15  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: OK :-)
20:39:30  <Chris_Booth[LP]> oh XeryusTC has found drop box
20:39:35  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
20:39:41  <^Spike^> i'll see what i can do cb
20:39:47  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:39:47  <XeryusTC> !password
20:39:47  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ravage
20:39:48  <Callidus> so is the public starting its planning phase now?
20:39:49  <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game
20:39:56  <mfb-> MM+planning
20:39:59  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
20:40:07  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:40:09  <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game
20:40:11  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:40:13  <PublicServer> <mfb> but it is a bit unstable...
20:40:13  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game
20:40:18  <Callidus> and this will take till around tommorrow yes?
20:40:20  <PublicServer> *** mfb has started a new company (#1)
20:40:25  <Chris_Booth[LP]> thanks spike, just means I don't need 2 folders
20:40:26  <XeryusTC> it should work now
20:40:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> at least
20:40:29  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has joined company #1
20:40:29  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
20:40:33  <Callidus> how sad.
20:40:45  <Chris_Booth[LP]> XeryusTC: you loaded your new map?
20:40:52  <XeryusTC> yes
20:40:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh
20:41:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> havent cheated in money
20:41:03  <Callidus> Not that i dont value a good plan its just that I cant contribute so ill just go play on welcome server
20:41:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'll build the airports
20:41:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> I think we have wrong town names for these many hills :p
20:41:42  <Chris_Booth[LP]> Callidus: you can
20:41:45  <Chris_Booth[LP]> you can make a plan
20:42:09  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game
20:42:10  <XeryusTC> !rcon list_settings spread
20:42:10  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: say_client 38 "Welcome Chris Booth"
20:42:10  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ‎[Private] To Chris Booth: Welcome Chris Booth
20:42:10  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: say_client 38 "You are playing on \"#openttdcoop - The Public Server (\""
20:42:10  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: say_client 38 "House rules are at"
20:42:10  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: say_client 38 "say !help for more information"
20:42:12  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: say_client 38 "---"
20:42:12  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ‎[Private] To Chris Booth: You are playing on "#openttdcoop - The Public Server ("
20:42:14  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ‎[Private] To Chris Booth: House rules are at
20:42:14  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ‎[Private] To Chris Booth: say !help for more information
20:42:16  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ‎[Private] To Chris Booth: ---
20:42:16  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: you have 3 more messages
20:42:20  <XeryusTC> !rcon set station_spread 64
20:42:24  <XeryusTC> !setdef
20:42:24  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1
20:42:28  <Callidus> ahh but making a plan and using that plan are two different things : P
20:43:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hill tastic
20:43:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> this is not my map again though
20:43:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> only my newgrfs i think
20:43:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no mtss?
20:44:22  <XeryusTC> !rcon set plane_speed 4
20:44:22  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ERROR: This command/variable is not available during network games.
20:44:25  <XeryusTC> ffs
20:44:29  <XeryusTC> not my game anyway
20:44:35  <PublicServer> <mfb> enkveen airport is some tiles too far away from wamseldricht :(
20:44:40  <XeryusTC> !rcon load 2
20:44:41  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
20:44:45  <XeryusTC> !password
20:44:45  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ravage
20:44:51  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:44:52  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game
20:44:55  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:44:58  <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game
20:45:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, gone ;)
20:45:01  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (leaving)
20:45:03  <PublicServer> *** mfb has started a new company (#1)
20:45:06  <XeryusTC> hmm
20:45:11  <XeryusTC> it just doesnt want to load my save
20:45:42  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:45:43  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game
20:45:57  <Chris_Booth[LP]> then you uploaded the wrong sav
20:46:02  <XeryusTC> 4 mins of video recorded, 2gb hdd usage xD
20:46:11  <Chris_Booth[LP]> or uploaded 2 saves with the same name
20:46:18  <mfb-> uncompressed..
20:46:27  <XeryusTC> kind of, yeah :o
20:46:34  <XeryusTC> doesnt help that it is 720p either
20:46:44  <^Spike^> :)
20:46:45  <mfb-> compress it ;)
20:46:51  * ^Spike^ likes ffmpeg
20:47:03  <XeryusTC> hopefully this will work
20:47:15  <^Spike^> just pipe the uncompressed directly into it and it is compressed :D
20:47:31  <XeryusTC> i`m kind of on windows :o
20:47:41  <XeryusTC> also, this recording thing only has mpeg-1 support i think xD
20:47:41  <Chris_Booth[LP]> aah then you can't pipe
20:47:42  <^Spike^> .... :)
20:48:03  <XeryusTC> oh, it does support xvid compression apparently :o
20:48:07  <^Spike^> ..... :)
20:48:29  <XeryusTC> 1 min is nog 6mb :o
20:49:00  <^Spike^> never said making these clips was without taking space :D
20:49:10  <XeryusTC> i know
20:49:17  <XeryusTC> good thing i got 2x2TB extra last week ;)
20:49:19  <Ammler> [22:31] <V453000> XeryusTC: Ammler might have removed majority of obsolete stuff <-- do not highlight for such
20:49:44  <XeryusTC> Ammler: we highlight you because we want you to feel the consequences when we blame you
20:49:46  <Chris_Booth[LP]> nice highlight there
20:49:51  <^Spike^> lol
20:49:54  <V453000> hoped XeryusTC could give your some blame Ammler :P
20:49:56  <Ammler> :-)
20:50:22  <Chris_Booth[LP]> so we sticking with this map?
20:50:33  <XeryusTC> settings are wrong
20:50:35  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1
20:50:35  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
20:50:38  <XeryusTC> and they are wrong on my client too probably
20:50:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> then correct the setting
20:51:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or make a new map
20:51:27  <XeryusTC> !getsave
20:51:29  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: OK :-)
20:51:39  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
20:51:41  <mfb-> !rcon set max_station_spread 64
20:51:41  <PublicServer> mfb-: players
20:51:41  <PublicServer> mfb-: server_info
20:51:41  <PublicServer> mfb-: clients
20:51:42  <PublicServer> mfb-: echo doneclientcount
20:51:42  <PublicServer> mfb-: Current/maximum clients:     0/255
20:51:44  <PublicServer> mfb-: Current/maximum companies:   0/ 1
20:51:44  <PublicServer> mfb-: Current/maximum spectators:  2/10
20:51:46  <PublicServer> mfb-: Client #1  name: 'PublicServer'  company: 255  IP: server
20:51:46  <PublicServer> mfb-: Client #44  name: 'Chris Booth'  company: 255  IP:
20:51:48  <PublicServer> mfb-: Client #45  name: 'mfb'  company: 255  IP:
20:51:48  <PublicServer> mfb-: you have 2 more messages
20:51:50  <mfb-> ...
20:51:51  <XeryusTC> !password
20:51:51  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ravage
20:52:00  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:52:02  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:52:02  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game
20:52:04  <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game
20:52:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> still not right
20:52:14  <mfb-> station spread is wrong, too
20:52:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it refuses to laod my save
20:52:27  <Chris_Booth[LP]> then you have something wrong with the save
20:52:53  <mfb-> oh, without max
20:53:11  <mfb-> !rcon set station_spread 64
20:53:17  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00005DC2:
20:53:41  <XeryusTC> !rcon load 2
20:53:45  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
20:53:56  <^Spike^> [2011-07-30 22:53:41] dbg: [net] Loading game failed, so a new (random) game will be started!
20:53:57  <^Spike^> [2011-07-30 22:53:41] ERROR: Game Load Failed?NewGRF mismatch
20:53:57  <^Spike^> [2011-07-30 22:53:41] dbg: [net] Generating map, please wait...
20:54:16  <Ammler> you should report that
20:54:21  <XeryusTC> yeah
20:54:30  <XeryusTC> i was just looking it up too :P
20:54:45  <^Spike^> you know you're way around screen better then i do :D
20:54:52  <XeryusTC> hmm
20:55:00  <XeryusTC> did we need a special command to stop the server?
20:55:15  <Chris_Booth[LP]> kill!
20:55:38  <^Spike^> shutdown -h now
20:55:40  <^Spike^> oh wait
20:55:42  <^Spike^> that's something else
20:57:02  <XeryusTC> Ammler?
20:57:06  <XeryusTC> that wrapper script
20:57:11  <XeryusTC> how did we stop and start it again?
20:58:22  <Ammler> on the screen?
20:58:28  <^Spike^> i forgot :)
20:58:31  <Ammler> else !restart
20:58:40  <XeryusTC> on the screen
20:58:42  <XeryusTC> stop is still exit?
20:58:53  <XeryusTC> and then just start autopilot.tcl without params?
20:59:32  <Ammler> no, use ./bin/start
20:59:38  <Ammler> ./bin/
20:59:42  <XeryusTC> ok
20:59:50  <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin
20:59:50  <PublicServer> Saving game...
20:59:55  <PublicServer> Server has exited
20:59:56  *** PublicServer has quit IRC
21:00:09  <Ammler> -c does use the latest autosave
21:00:48  <^Spike^> stop tabbin! :)
21:01:06  <XeryusTC> :P
21:01:33  <XeryusTC> !getsave
21:01:45  <Ammler> lol
21:01:56  <Ammler> you need autopilot to use that command
21:02:11  <XeryusTC> oh right xD
21:02:15  <XeryusTC> well, it was still there anyway
21:02:16  <^Spike^> who needs AP :)
21:02:28  <^Spike^> XeryusTC if you're on console why just not wget it?
21:02:32  <^Spike^> *hint*
21:03:08  <XeryusTC> hmm
21:03:11  <XeryusTC> this just fails
21:04:51  <XeryusTC> spike: do you have ssh in full screen?
21:05:01  <^Spike^> yep
21:05:03  <^Spike^> well sort of
21:05:04  <^Spike^> why?
21:05:06  *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop
21:05:06  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
21:05:06  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server ('
21:05:06  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG210 (r22700) | STAGE: MM + Planning | | New players, use @quickstart and !help |"
21:05:06  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer
21:05:10  <^Spike^> too big for you?
21:05:12  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00020502:
21:05:15  <XeryusTC> because i was missing half of my text :s
21:05:20  <XeryusTC> so then i ran it in fullscreen
21:05:23  <XeryusTC> and i still was xD
21:05:32  <^Spike^> then try now :)
21:05:33  <XeryusTC> but well
21:05:39  <^Spike^> i detached etc :)
21:05:41  <XeryusTC> lets just go with the map the server generated :P
21:05:45  <mfb-> :D
21:05:47  <mfb-> !password
21:05:47  <PublicServer> mfb-: grooms
21:05:48  <XeryusTC> but my plan didnt work anyway
21:06:04  <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin
21:06:04  <PublicServer> Saving game...
21:06:04  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
21:06:07  <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game
21:06:09  <PublicServer> Server has exited
21:06:10  *** PublicServer has quit IRC
21:06:14  <mfb-> ...
21:06:14  <Chris_Booth[LP]> lol
21:06:21  <^Spike^> i can't help it i have a full hd monitor XeryusTC :)
21:06:34  * ^Spike^ likes lot's of screen space specially wiht ssh :)
21:06:42  <^Spike^> something with log files :D
21:06:43  <XeryusTC> oh, i know why
21:06:45  <XeryusTC> i forgot -D
21:06:53  <Chris_Booth[LP]> 1900x1080 spike?
21:06:55  <Chris_Booth[LP]> or bigger?
21:06:59  <^Spike^> 1920*1080
21:08:02  <Chris_Booth[LP]> nice res, how big is the screen 21"?
21:08:10  *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop
21:08:10  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
21:08:10  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server ('
21:08:10  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer
21:08:10  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG210 (r22700) | STAGE: MM + Planning | | New players, use @quickstart and !help |"
21:08:11  <XeryusTC> ah well
21:08:13  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00020502:
21:08:17  <Chris_Booth[LP]> wb PublicServer
21:08:21  <^Spike^> 22
21:08:22  <XeryusTC> lets just continue with that map
21:08:39  <Chris_Booth[LP]> nice screenshot
21:08:40  <^Spike^> have a 20 as seconday
21:09:49  <V453000> omg :D
21:09:57  <^Spike^> what i got the space of my desk.... :)
21:09:58  <Chris_Booth[LP]> is it not possible that one of the 4 or 5 people with SSH here couldn't get XeryusTC map to work?
21:10:07  <Chris_Booth[LP]> even if XeryusTC  can't
21:10:12  * ^Spike^ likes ikea desk :)
21:10:23  <Chris_Booth[LP]> I hate ikea
21:11:08  <XeryusTC> i probably just used newgrfs that the server doesnt have
21:11:16  <XeryusTC> !content
21:11:17  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Connection established
21:11:17  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
21:11:17  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
21:11:58  <Ammler> you can alwaqys theck the download at
21:12:32  <V453000> it should have all of them
21:12:34  <Chris_Booth[LP]> yes and you can always upload the grfs the server doesn't have to the content_download page aswell
21:13:14  <V453000> XeryusTC: maybe remove the top newgrf - the #openttdcoop newGRF pack 7.3 header
21:13:29  <Ammler> lol
21:13:43  <Chris_Booth[LP]> yes
21:13:43  <V453000> XeryusTC: btw ECS extension to DB set is pointless with no ECS loaded
21:14:43  <XeryusTC> true
21:14:46  <Chris_Booth[LP]> !grf
21:14:46  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth[LP]: (Version 8.0)
21:15:04  <Chris_Booth[LP]> you could add the newGRF pack 8.0 header if you want it there
21:15:08  <Chris_Booth[LP]> but it is pointless
21:15:23  <XeryusTC> !getsave
21:15:24  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: OK :-)
21:15:45  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
21:15:57  <XeryusTC> !password
21:15:57  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: grower
21:16:00  <Chris_Booth[LP]> !screen
21:16:00  <PublicServer> *** Chris_Booth[LP] liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (
21:16:01  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
21:16:04  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game
21:16:05  <XeryusTC> works
21:16:14  <XeryusTC> must`ve been the top newgrf then xD
21:16:18  <V453000> lol
21:16:36  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
21:16:36  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
21:16:36  * XeryusTC blames Ammler 
21:16:38  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game
21:16:45  <XeryusTC> before he forced us to add that newgrf on top
21:16:52  <XeryusTC> and now he doesnt want us to have it anymore xD
21:17:00  <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game
21:17:05  <PublicServer> <mfb> new map :)
21:17:05  <Ammler> well, please ass grfpack 8.0 there
21:17:08  <Ammler> add
21:17:16  <XeryusTC> oh, there is a 8.0?
21:17:22  <Ammler> !grf
21:17:22  <PublicServer> Ammler: (Version 8.0)
21:17:31  <XeryusTC> how long has that been out?
21:17:36  <Ammler> around 2 years
21:17:47  <XeryusTC> O_o
21:17:47  <PublicServer> <mfb> cunbridge south is useless?
21:17:48  <Ammler> no, but long
21:17:52  <XeryusTC> 2010-08-04
21:17:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no, they are not mfb
21:17:58  <XeryusTC> how could i have missed that xD
21:18:00  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they are MMs
21:18:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> what do you want to transport there?
21:18:11  <PublicServer> <mfb> within 64 tiles
21:18:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just making the signs as far as possible
21:18:22  <Ammler> well, 8.0 is quite much compatible with 7.3
21:18:33  <Ammler> as we basically just removed bananas grfs
21:18:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm
21:18:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no airplanes?
21:18:55  <PublicServer> <mfb> see sign
21:18:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i see
21:19:02  <Ammler> so you can still join 8.0 server with 7.3 pack
21:19:12  <XeryusTC> oh
21:19:17  <XeryusTC> that`s why i didnt update :P
21:19:25  <Ammler> yes :-)
21:19:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> av8 doesnt have aircraft now it seems?
21:19:36  <PublicServer> <mfb> same thing at frondinghead
21:19:38  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no there are planes
21:19:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just limit set to 0
21:20:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> able to build them now
21:20:24  <mfb-> !rcon set max_trains 10
21:20:33  <mfb-> !rcon set max_planes 10
21:20:33  <PublicServer> mfb-: 'max_planes' is an unknown setting.
21:20:37  <mfb-> hm
21:20:43  <mfb-> !rcon set max_trains 500
21:20:47  <V453000> max_aircraft
21:20:49  <mfb-> <- confused
21:20:51  <^Spike^> what he said
21:20:56  <mfb-> !rcon set max_aircraft 10
21:20:59  <XeryusTC> xD
21:21:02  <^Spike^> ppl keep typing before i do...
21:21:04  <^Spike^> no fun :)
21:22:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, i cheated 300 mil btw xD
21:22:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> will not be enough
21:23:14  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00007DDC:
21:23:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that's why we have 2 planes flying :P
21:23:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> for creating MM? ;)
21:24:52  <XeryusTC> christ
21:25:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that bad?
21:25:09  <XeryusTC> buying bandicam is  to buy
21:25:35  <XeryusTC> otherwise i will have a HUGE watermark in my videos xD
21:25:42  <^Spike^> .....
21:25:56  <Callidus> do we ever do anything with buses or trolleys?
21:26:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> sometimes
21:26:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but not at the start
21:26:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> generaly not but we have had RV games in the past
21:26:26  <XeryusTC> mostly in pax games
21:26:30  <Callidus> my last singpleplayer game i experimented with using a trolley system to move huge amounts of people to a main station outside town
21:26:48  <Callidus> 3x3 grid enable easy trolley lanes
21:26:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we do that
21:27:03  <Callidus> it was.. interesting to see
21:27:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 5x2 grid is better
21:27:26  <mfb-> why 5?
21:27:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> station covering
21:27:58  <mfb-> then you can use 7
21:28:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes you can
21:28:07  <XeryusTC> 3x3 is quite bad actually
21:28:21  <XeryusTC> better is just 3 wide over the entire length
21:28:24  <mfb-> but it interesting that towns grow asymmetric with an asymmetric grid
21:28:27  <XeryusTC> when you have an sbahn
21:28:42  <mfb-> more in the direction of the longer sides
21:29:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> mfb: that is to do with links
21:29:16  <mfb-> 2,3,2 is nice with rails
21:29:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the more crossing you have to pass the less growth you get
21:29:31  <Callidus> true
21:29:33  <mfb-> that is what I said :p
21:29:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 2 7 2 is best with rails
21:29:57  <Callidus> this is why i made a trolley ferry to the main station outside town
21:30:05  <mfb-> eh
21:30:11  <mfb-> 2,3,2 are the same direction
21:30:11  <Callidus> anyway
21:30:11  <XeryusTC> i wonder if i want to spend 27 euros for recording videos for coop
21:30:14  <TWerkhoven> psg 207 has plenty examples
21:30:18  <mfb-> where the middle line in the 3 is the rail
21:30:25  <XeryusTC> which might just be limited to a handful of videos :o
21:30:27  <mfb-> 2,4,2 with two rail lines
21:30:56  <mfb-> there should be other programs to record things
21:31:09  <^Spike^> ..... XeryusTC alot more tools avail for that
21:31:09  <XeryusTC> i know
21:31:15  <^Spike^> google?
21:31:20  <^Spike^> search there...
21:31:24  <^Spike^> or the "special" search engines :)
21:31:33  <XeryusTC> but bandicam is famed for its low resource usage
21:31:41  <mfb-> <- missing
21:31:48  <XeryusTC> according to the makers, and some minecraft recordings
21:32:08  <Chris_Booth[LP]> lets hope it has not been moved yet
21:32:34  <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving)
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21:33:48  <Chris_Booth[LP]> is !screen  still broken?
21:34:44  <V453000> ooh connection failed during transfer
21:34:50  <V453000> guess some autosave will have to do
21:34:55  <^Spike^> !transfer
21:34:55  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: !transfer gamenr save: transfer the save to our web (publicserver)
21:35:01  <TWerkhoven> !password
21:35:01  <PublicServer> TWerkhoven: aspire
21:35:02  <^Spike^> hmmm
21:35:18  <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven joined the game
21:35:22  <^Spike^> it won;t be lost unless there have been 255 autosaves already\
21:35:41  <^Spike^> which i highly doubt
21:36:47  <mfb-> well, psg209...
21:36:48  <^Spike^>\
21:36:50  <^Spike^>
21:36:53  <^Spike^> can you check that one?
21:37:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no
21:37:23  <^Spike^> and that one?
21:37:23  <^Spike^>
21:38:14  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000945B:
21:38:19  <Chris_Booth[LP]> yes
21:38:23  <^Spike^> restart.sav?
21:38:31  <^Spike^> !transfer 209 restart.sav
21:38:35  <Chris_Booth[LP]> continue.sav
21:38:39  <^Spike^> oh well
21:38:44  <^Spike^> !transfer 209 continue.sav
21:38:48  <Chris_Booth[LP]> I said no to restart
21:39:02  * ^Spike^ kicks Ammler
21:39:05  <^Spike^> it doesn't transfer :)
21:39:13  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: PublicServerGame_209_Final.sav
21:39:13  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Transfer done. (/home/openttd/svn-publicserver/autopilot/save/restart.sav->
21:39:13  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: ssh: connect to host port 10822: Connection timed out
21:39:13  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: /home/openttd/script/ line 67: [: -gt: unary operator expected
21:39:13  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: ssh: connect to host port 10822: Connection timed out
21:39:15  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: lost connection
21:39:21  <^Spike^> ...
21:39:23  <^Spike^> let me guess...
21:39:26  <^Spike^> port changed Ammler? :)
21:39:55  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: PublicServerGame_209_Final.sav
21:39:55  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Transfer done. (/home/openttd/svn-publicserver/autopilot/save/continue.sav->
21:39:55  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: ssh: connect to host port 10822: Connection timed out
21:39:55  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: /home/openttd/script/ line 67: [: -gt: unary operator expected
21:39:55  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: ssh: connect to host port 10822: Connection timed out
21:39:57  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: lost connection
21:40:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> wow IRC lag
21:40:09  <^Spike^> nah ssh tiemout
21:40:11  <^Spike^> timeout*
21:40:14  <^Spike^> takes a bit longer
21:40:35  <Chris_Booth[LP]> when SSH timesout the IRC bridge lags?
21:40:36  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost)
21:40:46  <^Spike^> expect etc etc
21:40:50  <XeryusTC> !password
21:40:50  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: abates
21:40:59  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game
21:41:09  <XeryusTC> hmm
21:41:11  <^Spike^> !transfer 209 continue.sav
21:41:15  <XeryusTC> now i remember why i didnt like cam studio
21:41:39  <^Spike^> ?
21:41:58  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: PublicServerGame_209_Final.sav
21:41:58  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Transfer done. (/home/openttd/svn-publicserver/autopilot/save/continue.sav->
21:41:58  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Warning: Permanently added '[]:12922,[]:12922' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.
21:42:10  <^Spike^> there transfered
21:42:18  <^Spike^> it exists
21:44:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> thats a cool RV
21:45:06  <XeryusTC> spike: i will probably just reinstall windows during the race tomorrow
21:45:12  <XeryusTC> as that is what i decided to do earlier tonight
21:45:13  <^Spike^> ....
21:45:19  <XeryusTC> if i could get myself to burn windows on a disc :P
21:45:29  <^Spike^> i usually pull out a full day for that and start in the morning :)
21:45:47  <XeryusTC> i usually install stuff when i need it
21:45:54  <XeryusTC> i also need to find drivers for my hardware :o
21:46:06  <^Spike^> well i try to reinstall as much of the stuff i need immediatly...
21:46:10  <^Spike^> and other stuff as i need it idd
21:46:25  <^Spike^> but seeing i need to always restore 3 accounts.. 1 of myself 2 of my parents..
21:46:33  <^Spike^> although with the new mail server that should be less now...
21:47:44  <XeryusTC> well, i just have my own account
21:47:46  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined spectators
21:48:07  <^Spike^> true that.... but seeing as i also want dual boot again... maybe parents should get their own laptop... :)
21:48:09  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving)
21:48:12  <XeryusTC> all i install at the start is opera, x-chat, skype and msn
21:48:31  <Chris_Booth[LP]> opera
21:48:36  <Chris_Booth[LP]> let me just be sick
21:48:44  <^Spike^> firefox office msn skype mirc tweetdeck.. keepass
21:48:52  <XeryusTC> crap
21:48:56  <XeryusTC> my x-chat is completely fubar
21:49:00  <XeryusTC> even after restart
21:49:11  <^Spike^> displayfusion (for dual monitor stuff)
21:50:03  <Chris_Booth[LP]> I haven't been dual screen for 2 years now
21:50:19  <Chris_Booth[LP]> I went dual PC quad screen then
21:52:32  <XeryusTC> ok
21:52:34  <XeryusTC> on mibbit now
21:52:41  <XeryusTC> probably need a reboot for x-chat to work again xD
21:53:14  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002FBA4:
21:53:57  <^Spike^> .... :)
21:53:59  <XeryusTC> seems like the free recorders up to now are shite
21:54:27  <XeryusTC> i will just stick to bandicam i guess
21:54:43  <XeryusTC> and when the sweet internet monies comes rolling in i will pay for it 8)7
21:54:47  <^Spike^> just go for massive screenshotting ftw :)
21:55:10  <XeryusTC> @ 30fps :P
21:55:18  <XeryusTC> stfu webster
21:55:23  <XeryusTC> xD
21:55:26  <^Spike^> :D
21:55:33  <XeryusTC> tab complee doesnt work in mibbit ofcourse :(
21:56:01  <^Spike^> :D
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22:00:38  <XeryusTC> i need to remove my 1TB disc
22:00:42  <XeryusTC> because it is terriby failing
22:00:47  <XeryusTC> maybe i should sell it on ebay
22:00:48  <^Spike^> .............
22:00:50  <^Spike^> hehe
22:00:55  <^Spike^> wipe it first... ;)
22:01:05  <XeryusTC> just fill it with gay porn
22:01:11  <Chris_Booth[LP]> if its failing put it in a fridge
22:01:29  <XeryusTC> chris: i bought 2 replacements already anyway
22:01:34  <XeryusTC> also because i needed the space
22:01:46  <Chris_Booth[LP]> ooh ok then just transfer it
22:01:55  * ^Spike^ bought nas for that sort of stuff needing much space
22:02:01  <^Spike^> 4*2tb in raid 5 :)
22:02:15  <XeryusTC> nice
22:02:25  <XeryusTC> isnt 4 drives problematic with raid 5?
22:02:31  <^Spike^> 1 can fail
22:02:34  <^Spike^> which did 2 weeks ago
22:02:35  <Chris_Booth[LP]> I was looking at going to rai 1+0 with my 3x1tbs
22:02:44  <XeryusTC> someone told me that raid 5 works better with odd numbers of drives
22:02:56  <XeryusTC> chris: raid 1+0 needs even number of drives
22:02:59  <Chris_Booth[LP]> XeryusTC: that person was talking what we call shit
22:03:02  <^Spike^> ehm... doesn't matter actually\
22:03:09  <^Spike^> raid5 you need atleast 3 if i'm right
22:03:16  <TWerkhoven> at least 3, but more works too
22:03:16  <XeryusTC> yeah, at least 3
22:03:20  <Chris_Booth[LP]> raid can work with as many as you want
22:03:33  <Chris_Booth[LP]> Raid 1+0 needs 2 or more IIRC
22:03:37  <XeryusTC> they should make a raid which only works with a prime amount of drives :P
22:03:40  <TWerkhoven> raid6 needs 4
22:03:44  <^Spike^> needs even number cb
22:03:48  <TWerkhoven> dunno about odd number of drives being better
22:03:52  <XeryusTC> raid 1 always needs even numbers
22:03:54  <XeryusTC> because it mirrors
22:03:58  <^Spike^> yep
22:04:09  <^Spike^> and striping and mirroring requires still an even number
22:04:17  <Ammler> [23:39] <^Spike^> port changed Ammler? <-- yes, please fix it
22:04:25  <TWerkhoven> can you not mirror with 3 drives? one drives gets 2 backups as it were?
22:04:26  <^Spike^> already done Ammler if you looked up :)
22:04:31  <Ammler> I didn't
22:04:36  <Ammler> I just read highlights
22:04:54  <XeryusTC> twerkhoven: i think you would be able to, but i dont really see the point
22:04:56  <Chris_Booth[LP]> hhhm well then not much point in going to raid 1+0 and thats all the raid controler I have can do
22:05:12  <XeryusTC> if you have 2 drives failing at exactly the same time they are either too old or you have a HUMUNGOUS problem :P
22:05:18  <^Spike^>
22:05:19  <Webster> Title: RAID - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at
22:06:53  <TWerkhoven> tell that to the people that invented raid6
22:07:03  <^Spike^> :)
22:07:15  * TWerkhoven is happy with raid5
22:07:23  <^Spike^> same her
22:07:24  <^Spike^> e
22:07:31  <XeryusTC> i should make some raid 5
22:07:44  <TWerkhoven> i can always turn it off and wait for a new disk if one should break and im worried
22:07:44  * ^Spike^ likes synology nas aswell for that
22:07:51  * TWerkhoven has qnap
22:07:59  <^Spike^> synology did that automaticlly 2 weeks ago for me..
22:08:12  <^Spike^> it only loaded it's own md's
22:08:17  <XeryusTC> i need a new mobo + cpu + ram before i get into raid though
22:08:18  <^Spike^> for system stuff but not the data
22:08:35  <TWerkhoven> i had raid 5 with 4 400gb disks on a dual p3 board
22:08:55  <TWerkhoven> but it became too powerhungry to run all the time, and i ran out of space
22:09:04  <XeryusTC> actually, i should get a nas and put my huge drives into that
22:09:38  <^Spike^> i'm not gonna advice on that.. it's purely what you like/need....
22:09:46  <TWerkhoven> and can afford
22:10:15  <^Spike^> well... luckily me and my bro split it up... i bought HDs he the nas :)
22:10:17  <^Spike^> ds411+
22:10:58  <TWerkhoven> nice
22:11:02  <TWerkhoven> 4 2tb disks?
22:11:04  <^Spike^> yepz
22:11:08  <^Spike^> had 1 alreayd
22:11:12  <^Spike^> only that one failed...
22:11:14  <^Spike^> for some reason
22:11:22  <^Spike^> when we ran diagnostics tool it said fixed
22:11:25  <^Spike^> so we got a spare now
22:11:29  <TWerkhoven> lol
22:11:33  <XeryusTC> lol
22:11:40  <^Spike^> same with an old 1tb we had.. but that's probably gonna be some offline-backup disk :)
22:11:47  <^Spike^> having the backups just on nas only...
22:11:55  <^Spike^> specially the mysql backup and my VMs :D
22:13:20  <TWerkhoven> thats what raid is for, is it not?
22:13:43  <^Spike^> sort of... but it never hurts to have an offline backup aswell :)
22:13:58  <^Spike^> and all i need to do is setup some pc to rsync the backup folder from the nas :)
22:14:45  <TWerkhoven> just hook up a usb-disk?
22:14:53  <Callidus> wow. the welcome server is destroying me.
22:14:56  <^Spike^> nah we got some spare parts laying around anyway :)
22:15:00  <TWerkhoven> even if the entire nas goes down that should be fine
22:15:03  <Callidus> im not use to this level difficulty xD
22:15:03  <TWerkhoven> hehe
22:15:16  <^Spike^> got 2 mobo's laying around.... doing nothing
22:15:20  <^Spike^> 1 prob gets a new place....
22:15:24  <^Spike^> the other is just testing stuff
22:15:39  <^Spike^> so can't hurt to install minimal linux distro on it and rsync to 1tb disk
22:16:00  <Callidus> spike: mount them on a wall and use them for testing and stuff
22:16:10  <^Spike^> you haven't seen my wall yet...
22:16:18  <Callidus> no i have not.
22:16:20  * ^Spike^ looks up and sees old broken c64
22:16:23  <XeryusTC> i got an entire broken pc which still needs fixing
22:16:37  <XeryusTC> its like an old athlon xp 2000+ though
22:16:41  <^Spike^> also the first mobo we ever had... a 386
22:16:44  <TWerkhoven> i have 4 cases with various components next to me
22:16:44  <Callidus> Sadly i seem to live in an area where people dont buy computers
22:16:50  <Callidus> so my skill at fixing them is kind of moot
22:17:40  <Ammler> the big advantage of RAID1 is that you can use the disks without RAID
22:18:17  <TWerkhoven> true enough
22:18:36  <^Spike^> 50% space loss though... depending on how many space you expect to need that is alot
22:19:37  <Ammler> evertime a RAID system got broken, it was because of the RAID controller :-)
22:20:14  <^Spike^> nas is software rad.. so hooking drives up to any random linux pc works :D
22:20:24  <^Spike^> raid*
22:20:24  <hylje_> that's because RAID controllers aren't typically duplicated (like the disks)
22:20:27  <TWerkhoven> qnap/synology anyway
22:20:33  <^Spike^> yep
22:20:47  <TWerkhoven> i imagine that true business nas have proper hw raid
22:21:13  <Ammler> hylje_: indeed
22:21:16  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost)
22:21:18  <^Spike^> probably
22:21:31  <hylje_> if you need shorter degradation periods, you probably need redundant redundant arrays
22:21:49  <Ammler> you think, hey I have a safe system with my RAID but you forgot to have a second RAID controller
22:21:49  <hylje_> nas -> raid -> disks
22:21:51  <TWerkhoven> nested raid
22:21:59  <^Spike^> if you need that you probably invested in a failover san system anyway
22:22:17  <Ammler> our server runs with software RAID1 too, btw
22:22:40  <Ammler> imo, a cheap/fast mirroring :-)
22:23:04  <TWerkhoven> :)
22:23:24  <Chris_Booth[LP]> that one reason I wanted raid
22:23:30  <Chris_Booth[LP]> it is faster even than SSDs
22:23:35  <hylje_> pfft
22:23:39  <Ammler> hmm
22:23:40  <hylje_> raid your ssds
22:23:44  <^Spike^> lol
22:23:54  <Chris_Booth[LP]> hylje_: you want to kill the SSDs?
22:24:05  <^Spike^> i read a story about a guy that did that hylje_
22:24:11  <Ammler> if you need fast disks, I would definitly go to raid5 or something
22:24:13  <^Spike^> like 6 ssds in raid..
22:24:13  <hylje_> SSD lifetimes are pretty close to HDD lifetimes these days
22:24:17  <^Spike^> insanely fast :)
22:24:18  <XeryusTC> you should just raid 0 20 ssds so they are actually faster than your L2 cache :P
22:24:29  <hylje_> XeryusTC: i don't think it works that way
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22:24:49  * TWerkhoven will stick with 2 hdd's in raid0 for his desktop
22:24:50  <XeryusTC> brb, reboot
22:24:54  <Chris_Booth[LP]> I only have one SSD
22:24:58  <Chris_Booth[LP]> and its in my laptop
22:25:08  <Ammler> TWerkhoven: for that, you should use much memory
22:25:37  <hylje_> just remember backups, raid0 doesn't do recovery
22:25:46  <TWerkhoven> thats what the nas is for
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22:36:56  <XeryusTC> ah
22:37:05  <XeryusTC> x-chat works properly again :D
22:37:29  <^Spike^> :)
22:37:44  <XeryusTC> !password
22:37:45  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: tirade
22:37:49  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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22:39:23  <Chris_Booth[LP]>
22:39:24  <Webster> Title: A LITTLE GIRL ON A PLANE from Joe Burton (at
22:39:27  <Chris_Booth[LP]> I loled so hard
22:40:11  <TWerkhoven> niice
22:41:51  <XeryusTC>
22:41:52  <Webster> Title:" target="_blank"> - Dumpert rare dieren (at" target="_blank">
22:43:41  <Chris_Booth[LP]> hhhm how fat and greedy is it to eat a full tube of ice cream to myself?
22:45:12  <Chris_Booth[LP]> lol love that video
22:45:19  <Chris_Booth[LP]> poor bird
22:45:27  <Chris_Booth[LP]> just wants to get in the car to be dry
22:46:26  <TWerkhoven> gnite all
22:46:44  <Chris_Booth[LP]> gn TWerkhoven
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22:48:21  <Chris_Booth[LP]>     dog running away from firework in a very funny way
22:48:22  <Webster> Title: Crimson - Meme (at
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22:56:00  <XeryusTC> oh
22:56:09  <XeryusTC> i forgot all about the wonderful world of warez
22:56:14  <XeryusTC> so now i have bandicam cracked :P
22:57:25  <XeryusTC> no more logo <3
22:57:25  <Ammler> shht
22:57:48  <Ammler> we do not talk about illegal software and beer here
22:58:20  <XeryusTC> no beer? :(
22:58:24  <Callidus> cant seem to fix it either
22:58:24  <Callidus> ive successfully made a feeder station hate me.
22:58:24  <Callidus> great.
22:59:27  <Callidus> no beer??
22:59:29  <Callidus> D:
23:00:26  <Ammler> yes, we don't talk about
23:00:48  <Chris_Booth[LP]> beer
23:00:50  <Chris_Booth[LP]> beer
23:00:52  <Chris_Booth[LP]> beer
23:00:55  <Chris_Booth[LP]> oh and beer
23:00:59  <Chris_Booth[LP]> <3 beer
23:01:03  <Chris_Booth[LP]> drink beer
23:01:16  <XeryusTC> MASSIVE HIGHLIGHT :D
23:01:20  <Chris_Booth[LP]> lol
23:01:23  <Chris_Booth[LP]> so worth it
23:02:07  <Ammler> you see, don't talk about
23:02:23  <Chris_Booth> Ammler: you see no makey sence
23:02:41  <Chris_Booth> that sentence was missing a subject
23:03:12  <XeryusTC> i dont like people who dont finish their
23:03:32  <Chris_Booth> lol
23:03:53  <Chris_Booth> its wose when other people finish your
23:04:14  <Chris_Booth> s/wose/worse
23:04:28  <Chris_Booth> lucky we have no SmatZ here
23:04:39  <Chris_Booth> he wouldn't have like all my highlights
23:06:45  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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23:06:48  <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game
23:07:09  <Chris_Booth> hi sylf
23:07:15  <PublicServer> <Sylf> llo
23:07:27  <XeryusTC> yo sylf
23:07:36  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game
23:08:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hhhhm I am thinking about a roundabout with 4 spurs
23:09:36  <XeryusTC> that is what i usually suggest
23:09:39  <XeryusTC> but the other way around
23:09:46  <XeryusTC> 1 massive loop with some middle connectors
23:10:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> this would be a small one way roundabout
23:10:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 50 - 100 tiles
23:14:22  <Callidus> hmmm
23:14:29  <Callidus> i have one cold stella in the fridge.
23:14:34  <Callidus> I must resist....
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23:20:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hhhm I think 6 lines one way should be enough for 4 LL_RR tracks spurs
23:23:16  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001F70C:
23:30:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I have timetabled the planes so they will never meet
23:30:54  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :o
23:31:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> doesnt really matter though
23:31:04  <XeryusTC> !rcon set town_growth_rate
23:31:04  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'town_growth_rate' is: '0' (min: 0, max: 4)
23:31:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> makes sure we get most proffit
23:33:54  <XeryusTC> !archive
23:33:54  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | |
23:36:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nice
23:36:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as long as they stay like that it will be cool
23:36:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm?
23:36:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the gaps in the timetables
23:36:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh
23:37:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> if the planes become late then they are ruined
23:37:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but I did build in lay over
23:38:16  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00032B15:
23:51:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> good night all
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23:51:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> gn
23:52:10  <Chris_Booth> XTC can you add a no oil sign to my plan
23:52:12  <Chris_Booth> thanks
23:54:25  <PublicServer> <Sylf> blah, I'm slow to notice... that there's no trees on this map
23:54:27  <Callidus> couldent resist grabbing a beer. xD
23:54:38  <XeryusTC> (Y)
23:54:40  * Callidus now knows why they are not mentioned
23:54:51  <XeryusTC> first night since monday that i havent drank beer
23:55:16  <Callidus> i dont drink much but...
23:55:18  <Callidus> last one...
23:55:25  * Callidus takes a moment before opening to savor
23:56:16  <Callidus> sadly got a little skunky.
23:56:20  <Callidus> but drinkable

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