Log for #openttdcoop on 19th September 2011:
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06:09:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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06:11:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > goodmorning
06:11:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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06:11:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> do you understand "realistic and nice junctions" ? I dont
06:12:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > lopo or pugu?
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06:12:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> lopo
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06:13:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > well if i look at the real life train network and would define that as realitic it wwould be a pbs junction with no bridges
06:13:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > or tunnels
06:13:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> that couldnt even be meant seriously
06:14:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > we dont build realistic that is for sure
06:14:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> realistic is retarded, that wont even happen here
06:14:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> at least for as long as I am here
06:14:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh, voting board
06:14:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> fair point
06:14:59  <V453000> @stage Voting
06:14:59  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG215 (r22815) | STAGE: Voting | | New players, use @quickstart and !help |"
06:15:49  <PublicServer> <Tray> V, how big is your ML?
06:15:52  <PublicServer> <Tray> LLRR?
06:15:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
06:16:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> at least for the start
06:16:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> LL RR with 8*140 pax per train is a lot
06:16:35  <V453000> @calc 8*140
06:16:35  <Webster> V453000: 1120
06:16:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> wee
06:16:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > isnt the passenger 90 pax per train?
06:17:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> I though 70, not sure
06:17:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is a parameter to set the capacities
06:17:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> 50 is default and lowest
06:17:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> I set something higher but not sure how much, commuter trains have 105
06:17:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > yeah i found the parameters yesterday
06:17:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> so it is the highest ... let mecheck
06:17:47  <PublicServer> <Tray> I don't understand CB's plan:
06:18:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> ah yes, 90 ... that bolsters my point even further :)
06:18:16  <PublicServer> <Tray> why magic bulldozer? what are unique towns?
06:18:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > unique town is for a different style of pickup for each town
06:19:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > he said magic doze for industries that get in the way
06:19:22  <PublicServer> <Tray> Please explain that.
06:19:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > in one town you pick up passengers with some busses and in the next one with trains
06:20:04  <PublicServer> <Tray> ah
06:20:22  <PublicServer> <Tray> so every town has it's own s-bahn design?
06:20:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > yeah
06:21:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > XTC has a typo or does he mean L3LRR
06:21:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> just a minor typo I suppose
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06:22:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, different Sbahn designs ... that is obvious, nobody will build still-the-same for all clusters/towns
06:22:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> and quite honestly, 4L_4R BBH is quite arsey for pax game
06:23:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyway, I have to go, cya
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06:23:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > later
06:30:40  <Eightbitpwny> !password
06:30:41  <PublicServer> Eightbitpwny: corded
06:30:46  <Eightbitpwny> corded
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06:33:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > V his train comes in 2007 :(
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07:02:54  <LXSJason> !password
07:02:55  <PublicServer> LXSJason: belies
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07:03:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > morning
07:03:54  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> morning
07:08:25  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> hmmm let me see what trains will be avail.
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07:08:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > go for skiazen networks
07:08:50  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > shikazen
07:09:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > V train in 2007
07:09:52  <LXSJason> n700 series shinkansen
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07:10:50  <PublicServer> LXSJason: navels
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07:12:39  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> transport >50% pax ?
07:12:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > a city produces pax
07:13:05  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> basically.. peoplemover?
07:13:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > all citys should transport at least 50% of the max
07:13:41  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> no idea what ICE stations are, but i think i like V's plan best...
07:14:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > ICE is a big terminus and you feed it with little trains
07:14:29  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> basically an srnw?
07:14:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > nah the transfer from last game for V his station
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07:14:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > only no SRNW components
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07:15:27  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> oh, so more like... SLH03 prev game?
07:15:37  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > yeah exactly
07:15:39  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> 1 transfer station on SLH, and then feeder trains to it
07:15:39  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> ok
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07:16:11  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> wondering how they do the straight ML...
07:16:21  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> but it sounds interesting
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07:16:52  <Mazur> Oh, that's easy, simply wear a straightjacket while building.
07:17:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > maybe someone sgest the canal trick to build the ML
07:17:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > suggest
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07:58:03  <pugi> !password
07:58:03  <PublicServer> pugi: newton
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08:10:13  <Tulitomaatti> wc
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08:18:31  <PublicServer> Dilandau: fronds
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08:18:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > hey
08:31:29  <V453000> !password
08:31:29  <PublicServer> V453000: memoir
08:31:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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08:32:16  <Vinnie_nl> hey
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09:28:23  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: blooms
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09:28:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > hey
09:28:59  <pugi> helas
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09:46:46  <pugi> hello again webster :D
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10:23:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> do you really think that 2182 pounds per year hurt to have 1 running steamer? :)
10:24:04  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> :p
10:24:41  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> no ^^
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10:35:51  <pugi> !password
10:35:51  <PublicServer> pugi: trowel
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10:43:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> pugi: founding more towns is no issue
10:43:33  <PublicServer> <pugi> oh you can add more town?
10:43:35  <PublicServer> <pugi> didn't know that
10:44:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes there is an option to allow it
10:44:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is off by default because else people fund stupid towns in all games
10:44:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> with retarded names etc.
10:44:28  <PublicServer> <pugi> :D
10:44:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> but it is a powerful tool in pax games
10:45:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> though allowed only when one asks
10:45:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> with exception of psg 201 :)
10:45:21  <PublicServer> <pugi> south has very few towns
10:45:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> can get more, no problem
10:45:37  <PublicServer> <pugi> maybe later
10:45:44  <PublicServer> <pugi> once the plan was decided
10:45:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> rather after its Sbahn is set
10:46:00  <PublicServer> <pugi> yes
10:46:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> you know, when you build a Sbahn and the town is already there, local authorities are the worst enemy
10:46:26  <PublicServer> <pugi> adding a nice sbahn into a city without destroying most of it is hard :D
10:46:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> no, it isnt too hard :) just go around, the Sbahn should be like 30 times larger than the current size of cities
10:46:52  <PublicServer> <pugi> ah because you are not allowed to build near towns?
10:46:57  <planetmaker> ad arma! ceterum censeo local authority esse delendam!
10:47:12  <PublicServer> <pugi> to arms!
10:47:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> well not allowed, they hate all the TF for tunnels, tree demolition, ...
10:47:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
10:47:36  <V453000> pm knows latin? :P
10:47:38  <planetmaker> btw, they really don't mind terraforming a single bit
10:47:50  <planetmaker> it's really only trees :-) (and houses and roads)
10:48:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh, k :)
10:48:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, the result is always the same :D
10:48:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> "We hate you no matter what you build."
10:48:40  <planetmaker> non scio linguam latinam
10:48:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> k :)
10:48:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
10:49:09  <pugi> i vote that the other local authorities are to be destroyed?
10:49:13  <pugi> or something like that
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10:49:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> pugi: just allowing magic dozer is enough
10:49:32  <pugi> i mean the latin translation :D
10:49:53  <planetmaker> PublicServer: it's a quote from cato the older. Original is "ceterum censeo cartaginem esse delendam". He finished all his speaches in the senate with it
10:49:56  <planetmaker> no matter the topic
10:50:02  <pugi> ah, okay
10:50:09  <planetmaker> "Further I do believe that Karthago needs to be destroyed"
10:50:09  <V453000> :D
10:50:24  <V453000> nice nice. :D
10:50:42  <pugi> had to look up ceteri, censere and delere
10:50:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> delere is clear :P
10:50:57  <pugi> yeah, that was a bit expected
10:51:31  <pugi> hmm... ceterum
10:51:37  <planetmaker> seems I still know enough latin for a bit of posing :-P
10:51:54  <V453000> I had latin on high school back then, but that was just puella pulchra wtf
10:51:57  <V453000> :D
10:52:10  <pugi> the only thing in my book is ceteri = the rest, the others
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10:52:29  <planetmaker> 6 years of latin make sure you remember *something*. And reading cesar and ovid... brrr
10:52:34  <V453000> well et cetera says that too pugi :p
10:52:35  <pugi> censere = to believe, yeah
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11:30:41  <LXSJason> !password
11:30:41  <PublicServer> LXSJason: crafty
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11:33:58  <Webster> Latest update from blog: PSG #214: New client record <> || Back to the Basics (Signals How,What,When and even Where) <> || More time lapses <> || Rivers during map generation <> || OpenTTD time lapse <> || Copyright and licenses: permission to … what actually? <> || Advanced Building Revue 10: Invisible Hubs <> || New Member: mfb <> || New member: Sylf <> || Advanced Building Revue 09: Self Regulating Stations <>
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11:49:33  <Webster> Latest update from openttd: OpenTTD 1.1.3 <> || OpenTTD 1.1.3-RC1 <> || OpenTTD 1.1.2 <> || OpenTTD 1.1.2-RC2 <> || OpenTTD 1.1.2-RC1 <>
11:50:27  <Webster> Latest update from blog: PSG #214: New client record <> || Back to the Basics (Signals How,What,When and even Where) <> || More time lapses <> || Rivers during map generation <> || OpenTTD time lapse <> || Copyright and licenses: permission to … what actually? <> || Advanced Building Revue 10: Invisible Hubs <> || New Member: mfb <> || New member: Sylf <> || Advanced Building Revue 09: Self Regulating Stations <>
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12:33:13  <Godde> !password
12:33:13  <PublicServer> Godde: ruffle
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13:01:10  <Dilandau> !password
13:01:10  <PublicServer> Dilandau: anoint
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13:31:44  <pugi> :D
13:33:18  <pugi> i bet many people don't actually read the plans but go for the one with the most votes or the most well known name :D
13:33:34  <pugi> but i remember we had that voting discussion already 2 years ago
13:45:14  <TWerkhoven> :)
13:53:14  <LXSJason> well i was reading the plans
13:53:27  <LXSJason> and V's plan had the one with straight ML, which seemed most interesting to me :p
13:53:41  <LXSJason> so i actually read em :p and even made a save offline to check which train he ment :p
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14:04:56  <aldor> !password
14:04:57  <PublicServer> aldor: metals
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14:05:13  <PublicServer> <aldor> hi
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14:05:35  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi
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14:08:47  <pugi> wow LXSJason :D
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14:14:43  <LXSJason> :)
14:15:11  <LXSJason> im so bored :( went to Elf Fantasy Fair yesterday, and came home with a heavy cold... ...
14:15:16  <LXSJason> nothing to do right now :(
14:15:23  <LXSJason> !password
14:15:23  <PublicServer> LXSJason: lentil
14:15:32  <Godde> bf3 beta still hasn't arrived. i am bored.
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14:16:10  <LXSJason> lol.. only a few games im watining for... 1 is D3, the ohter GW2
14:17:43  <aldor> oh
14:18:00  <aldor> don't u know when D3 will come?
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14:19:39  <LXSJason> When D3 will come, ofc! when it's done! :p Blizzard's basic rule... but their Beta-ing right now.. so Im guessing november or something close... Would be awesome if they release 22nd of Nov, now that would be an awesome Bday present
14:20:09  <aldor> )
14:21:27  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> mmm japanese theme game... Let me find a proper Japanese name :p (going to start studying Japanese this thursday)
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14:31:42  <imus> !players
14:31:45  <PublicServer> imus: Client 348 is TWerkhoven, a spectator
14:31:45  <PublicServer> imus: Client 355 (Orange) is Dilandau, in company 1 (Nippon no Tetsudo)
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14:31:45  <PublicServer> imus: Client 373 (Orange) is LXSJason, in company 1 (Nippon no Tetsudo)
14:31:48  <imus> !password
14:31:48  <PublicServer> imus: duress
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14:33:05  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> there :) I "japanesed" the company :p
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14:54:05  <PublicServer> Maraxus: bearer
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14:56:30  <PublicServer> Kangoo: bearer
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15:12:41  <Eightbitpwny> !password
15:12:42  <PublicServer> Eightbitpwny: chimed
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15:18:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > Hello people
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15:21:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > 10 more yrears :)
15:21:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > years
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15:26:17  <V453000> !password
15:26:17  <PublicServer> V453000: podium
15:26:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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15:28:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > hey
15:29:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi hi
15:30:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > V what gameversion do you use to change the newgrfs on a map
15:30:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > 0.6.0?
15:30:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> ??
15:31:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> you cant load newer save with older revision
15:31:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > in older gameversions you can still change newgrfs while ingame
15:31:13  *** Leshrac_Away is now known as Leshrac
15:31:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > ohh to bad
15:31:18  <Leshrac> Morning everyone
15:31:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> well ... you can
15:31:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> just have scenario developer (or how is that called) on
15:31:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is in the config
15:31:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> sec.
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15:31:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > thank you
15:32:13  <Vinnie_nl> morning Leshrac
15:32:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> scenario_developer = true
15:32:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> just change that and you can
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15:35:34  <Dilandau> !password
15:35:34  <PublicServer> Dilandau: podium
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15:36:05  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi
15:36:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
15:38:17  <Leshrac> is it me or does the site seem to have some problems?
15:38:49  <Eightbitpwny> !password
15:38:49  <PublicServer> Eightbitpwny: upbeat
15:39:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is some work being done on it
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16:06:22  <Godde> has building started yet? :)
16:06:50  <LXSJason> afaik, not
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16:16:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > hmm what to do now
16:16:18  <pugi> !Password
16:16:24  <pugi> !password
16:16:24  <PublicServer> pugi: brunts
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16:17:50  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> nothing ^^
16:19:30  <pugi> waiting for next map :P
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16:34:40  <PublicServer> makjes: deject
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16:45:17  <Chris_Booth> !passsword
16:45:26  <Chris_Booth> !password
16:45:26  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: rhinos
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16:45:43  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > hey CB
16:45:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi Vinnie
16:46:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> people hate my plan
16:47:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > nah i think people vote afer the names with a plan
16:47:15  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > after
16:47:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol
16:48:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I don't realy mind tbh I like all the plans
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16:59:28  <aldor> !password
16:59:28  <PublicServer> aldor: dapper
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16:59:51  <aldor> hi
17:00:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > hey aldor
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17:06:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> evening
17:06:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > wb
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17:06:29  <PublicServer> <aldor> hi
17:06:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm, should we start?
17:07:01  <PublicServer> <aldor> seems so
17:07:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > lets see
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17:07:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > yeah but your train comes in 2007
17:07:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> how does that hurt? :)
17:08:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> I doubt that we will have ML set in less than 30 minutes
17:08:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > not really
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17:08:06  <Patrickov> !password
17:08:06  <PublicServer> Patrickov: infest
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17:09:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > oke i got a beer i am ready to start
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17:11:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will get some food first
17:11:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> ~15 minutes max
17:11:49  <Vinnie_nl> oke
17:12:34  <Leshrac> meh, i still need quite alot of practice i am noticing in this singleplayer game
17:12:52  <Leshrac> anythis more than L_R still takes ages to build, let alone being able to finish it ><
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17:15:44  <LoPo> !password
17:15:44  <PublicServer> LoPo: infest
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17:16:46  <Vinnie_nl> hey LoPo
17:16:52  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hello :)
17:17:04  <Vinnie_nl> we start soon
17:17:10  <PublicServer> <LoPo> nice
17:17:16  <PublicServer> <LoPo> this maps needs some trains :P
17:17:27  <PublicServer> <LoPo> so, we go with V's plan?
17:18:15  <Vinnie_nl> or we find 5 more people to vote in the next 10 min
17:18:22  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P
17:20:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > who is player he can also vote
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17:23:52  <V453000> !password
17:23:52  <PublicServer> V453000: ordeal
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17:24:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> LoPo: may I ask what does in racional words a "realistic" junction mean?
17:25:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> or what effects on the actual network does it have?
17:26:03  <pugi> [18:47:11] <PublicServer> <Vinnie > nah i think people vote afer the names with a plan
17:26:03  <pugi> [18:47:15] <PublicServer> <Vinnie > after
17:26:07  <pugi> i think the same
17:26:20  <pugi> and they also vote for plans that already have many votes :D
17:26:45  <Godde> !password
17:26:45  <PublicServer> Godde: ordeal
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17:27:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > Hello all
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17:27:28  <Godde> mrh
17:27:29  <Godde> meh
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17:27:33  <Godde> pax :(
17:27:34  <PublicServer> <pugi> not that i dislike V's plan...
17:27:46  <V453000> @stage Building
17:27:46  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG215 (r22815) | STAGE: Building | | New players, use @quickstart and !help |"
17:27:55  <Godde> lol just as i am leaving
17:27:57  <PublicServer> <pugi> it is quite similar :D
17:28:03  <pugi> good job Godde :D
17:28:05  <Godde> screw homework, imma tycoon this shit!
17:28:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> what is similar pugi? :)
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17:28:31  <PublicServer> <pugi> the plans
17:28:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, that is not my fault
17:28:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> I made the plan first
17:28:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> but it has some key differences
17:28:47  <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah, this is just the way with pax :D
17:28:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> such as cities becoming mess
17:29:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > oke V to sum it up Each town a big transferstation and transferstations are multi-multipoint
17:30:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> basically
17:30:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> or rather
17:30:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> single -> multipoint for each
17:30:29  <PublicServer> <pugi> the reason i scrapped my plan was because other than the two train types it was in essence yours :D
17:30:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > TL has one engine and 15 carrages?
17:30:52  <PublicServer> <pugi> but then imus made me do another plan
17:30:53  <PublicServer> <pugi> and he didn't even vote for his suggestions <.<
17:30:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> japan cant have more engines
17:30:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> powered wagons
17:31:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > oke so i make my Sbahn TL3
17:31:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > then 3 trains fill a ML train
17:31:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> up to you
17:31:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> that doesnt matter too much
17:31:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> especially if the transfer station is near buildings
17:31:48  <PublicServer> <pugi> N700 is some type of shinkansen?
17:31:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> as it needs to be
17:31:56  <PublicServer> <LoPo> wow there are som many trains :P
17:32:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, the "best" shinkansen
17:32:20  <PublicServer> <pugi> i suspect it has the highest top speed...
17:32:23  <PublicServer> <pugi> and cl2 is enough? :O
17:32:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
17:32:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, come build :)
17:32:31  <PublicServer> <pugi> tilting?
17:32:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
17:32:41  <PublicServer> <pugi> ah okay
17:32:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > i feel like a minion
17:32:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> LL_RR for now
17:33:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie : ?
17:33:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > yes
17:33:58  <PublicServer> <pugi> probably
17:34:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> Godde: well, unless you want to tunnel it :)
17:34:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > Godde: follow the signs
17:34:09  <PublicServer> <Godde> hurr durr
17:34:23  <PublicServer> <Godde> which signs?
17:34:36  <PublicServer> <pugi> bought land
17:34:40  <PublicServer> <Godde> oh
17:34:42  <PublicServer> <Godde> *shakes head*
17:35:02  <PublicServer> <LoPo> howmuch TF allowed for bridging?
17:35:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> low as possible
17:35:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> normally ... keep it low, but if you really need, some more does not hurt as long as it is not too significant
17:35:34  <PublicServer> <pugi> @tunnels 8
17:35:38  <pugi> !tunnels 8
17:35:38  <PublicServer> pugi: !tunnels <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2)
17:35:44  <pugi> pff
17:35:52  <pugi> !gap 9
17:35:52  <PublicServer> pugi: !gap <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2)
17:35:57  <pugi> 8
17:35:59  <pugi> uhm...
17:36:10  <^Spike^> !gap 9 8
17:36:10  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 9 and gap 8.
17:36:15  <pugi> no
17:36:21  <pugi> 9 was mistype
17:36:21  <^Spike^> well just to give the idea
17:36:23  <pugi> i know :D
17:36:54  <pugi> there was a command to show 2 for gap a-b, 3 for gap c-d
17:37:00  <pugi> ...
17:37:24  <^Spike^> @gap 9
17:37:25  <Webster> ^Spike^: For Trainlength of 9: <= 15 needs 2, 16 - 26 needs 3, 27 - 37 needs 4.
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17:37:30  <^Spike^> that one?
17:37:32  <PublicServer> <pugi> yes :P
17:37:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > TY spike
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17:37:57  <pugi> so 2 should be enough almost anywhere
17:38:02  <PublicServer> <Godde> max bridge length?
17:38:10  <pugi> 15
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17:38:46  <PublicServer> <pugi> just make 2x 11
17:38:50  <PublicServer> <pugi> or something like that
17:39:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > intesting
17:40:06  <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol funny signs :P
17:40:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > i cant bridge over a bride
17:40:21  <PublicServer> <pugi> don't we need erail?
17:40:31  <PublicServer> <Godde> this is maglev
17:40:43  <PublicServer> <pugi> ah...
17:40:53  <PublicServer> <pugi> then i understand cl2 :D
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17:45:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > i know
17:46:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> needs to end this way
17:46:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > i know
17:46:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> why dont you do it then
17:46:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > you smashed it while i was working :)
17:47:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> working wrongly
17:48:19  <Chris_Booth> now now guys play nice
17:48:25  <PublicServer> <Godde> yes, mom
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17:49:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> wow wobble lines
17:49:39  <PublicServer> <Godde> dem mountains
17:50:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > we lost the great leader
17:51:07  <V453000> !password
17:51:07  <PublicServer> V453000: milder
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17:52:07  <PublicServer> <pugi> zzzzz
17:52:25  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > wifi again
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17:53:13  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ey
17:53:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > ?
17:53:24  <PublicServer> <LoPo> game paused :S
17:53:26  <pugi> who is trying to connect?
17:53:30  <pugi> please stop connecting :(
17:53:31  <PublicServer> <LoPo> what happende
17:53:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > no V is joining
17:53:33  <PublicServer> <LoPo> k
17:53:45  <V453000> !rcon kick 471
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17:53:47  <V453000> my client got stuck
17:54:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> :'(
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17:54:22  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> :)
17:54:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> wb
17:54:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> ty..
17:55:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > why are there already signs whit wht is this?
17:55:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> guess who
17:55:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol
17:55:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > you?
17:55:36  <PublicServer> <Godde> you? ^^
17:55:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
17:55:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I loved that game as a child
17:55:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> why would I sign that
17:56:35  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> was not me
17:57:06  <PublicServer> <pugi> bad case of cl2
17:57:21  <PublicServer> <Godde> but cl2 is correct?
17:57:26  <PublicServer> <pugi> 3
17:57:30  <PublicServer> <pugi> 2? :O
17:57:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 2 if fine
17:57:49  <PublicServer> <pugi> sorrry...
17:57:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > but the s bends get tricky iirc
17:58:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> no they dont
17:58:09  <PublicServer> <pugi> same as 90° curves
17:58:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> at least I dont think
17:58:15  <PublicServer> <pugi> just cl2
17:59:27  <PublicServer> <pugi> whatever :D
17:59:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm
17:59:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> some Sbends are there
17:59:42  <pugi> !clcalc
17:59:48  <pugi> @clcalc
17:59:48  <Webster> pugi: (clcalc <railtype> [<tilt>] <cl|km/h>) -- For a number <30 this calculates the speed for <cl> on <railtype>. For any other numbers, this calculates the CL required for <railtype> travelling at <km/h>, assuming TL is small enough. [<tilt>] will apply tilt bonuses to the calculation.
17:59:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > CL2 sbend 265 kmph
17:59:55  <pugi> @clcalc maglev tilt 300
17:59:55  <Webster> pugi: Required CL for maglev at 300km/h, with tilt bonus, is 2 (3 half tiles) or TL
17:59:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > train 2
18:00:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes im doing that
18:00:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > i mean train 3
18:00:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh .. :)
18:00:37  <PublicServer> <pugi> no, you made sbends with cl2 and 1
18:00:39  <PublicServer> <pugi> before
18:00:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> well Sbend 3 works
18:02:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm:)
18:03:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > just to see
18:03:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> still counts as Sbend
18:03:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> how fast can you sneeze?
18:04:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > oke i will take Himesaki
18:04:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> im on the islands from Matsuoka to Furuhara
18:05:06  <PublicServer> <pugi> well i don't know how they should be connected :P
18:05:09  <PublicServer> <Godde> im off :D
18:05:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> bb pugi
18:05:19  <PublicServer> <pugi> so i guess slhs?
18:05:25  <PublicServer> <Godde> ciao
18:05:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> read pugi? :p
18:05:31  <PublicServer> *** Godde has left the game (leaving)
18:05:35  <PublicServer> <pugi> not very clear to me :(
18:05:39  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> who is Player?
18:05:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > CB dont know but done nothing yet
18:06:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > i have been here for 3 hours
18:06:17  <PublicServer> <pugi> where are the trains supposed to go?
18:06:21  <PublicServer> <pugi> to every other station?
18:06:24  <PublicServer> *** Koronen joined the game
18:06:31  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no
18:06:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, preferably with 1 order set
18:06:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> for easy management
18:06:54  <PublicServer> <pugi> so each time a new station is built we need to edit all the trains orders?
18:07:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> though 1 station can be multiple times in 1 order set
18:07:06  <PublicServer> <pugi> okay, so one shared for all trains
18:07:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> has anyone claimed Kawamori?
18:07:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, yes, but since there are just X order sets as X stations, it isnt that many
18:07:26  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001CE34:
18:07:28  <PublicServer> <pugi> mmh
18:07:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> Chris Booth: seems like you are going to be the king of the hill :p
18:07:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> well I will take it no one minds
18:07:54  <PublicServer> <Koronen> where's the network plan?
18:08:02  <PublicServer> <Koronen> i can't find any signs
18:08:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> see sign list, top
18:08:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> ah, enable signs via options
18:08:32  <PublicServer> <Koronen> hmm :/
18:08:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > join company so you lose one setting to see signs
18:09:08  <PublicServer> *** Koronen has joined company #1
18:09:22  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hhhm what is the view on TF to allow buidings?
18:09:24  <PublicServer> <Koronen> there we go
18:09:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> as low as possibly
18:09:38  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> like !this
18:09:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> e
18:09:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as nothing can be built there
18:09:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, make it natural
18:10:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > Koronen: first game here?
18:10:38  <PublicServer> <Koronen> no
18:10:48  <PublicServer> <Koronen> but it's been a while since last time
18:19:16  <PublicServer> *** LoPo has left the game (leaving)
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18:20:10  <V453000> !password
18:20:10  <PublicServer> V453000: abduct
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18:21:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> Who is doing Takatani?
18:21:21  <PublicServer> <pugi> i do :D
18:21:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf.
18:21:28  <PublicServer> <pugi> :(
18:21:36  <PublicServer> <pugi> not good?
18:21:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> I already said I am doing the islands ;(
18:21:49  <PublicServer> <pugi> ?
18:21:55  <pugi>  <V453000> im on the islands from Matsuoka to Furuhara
18:22:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
18:22:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> which is
18:22:11  <PublicServer> <pugi> oh... wait
18:22:18  <PublicServer> <pugi> i misread..
18:22:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> :d
18:22:28  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001C8B8:
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18:23:13  <V453000> x.x
18:23:13  <V453000> !password
18:23:13  <PublicServer> V453000: sentry
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18:24:02  <PublicServer> <pugi> okay, reverted all my tf changes
18:24:42  <PublicServer> <pugi> i just wanted to do some meaningless small station
18:24:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> every station needs an ICE first
18:25:00  <PublicServer> <pugi> well..
18:25:04  <PublicServer> <pugi> i'll wait for next map
18:25:07  <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving)
18:25:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> :(
18:26:43  <pugi> i thought every town needs a tl8 station
18:26:48  <pugi> unclear plan, as i said
18:26:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> town cluster/town
18:26:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> the plan is quite clear
18:27:09  <Leshrac> !password
18:27:09  <PublicServer> Leshrac: sentry
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18:27:25  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> heya
18:27:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > hey
18:28:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> pugi: btw when something is unclear, it is good to ask
18:30:58  <pugi> i asked very much if you didn't notice
18:31:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> is there any problem?
18:32:08  <pugi> not any more
18:32:19  <pugi> i'll see how it is planned when i join again later
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18:32:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> well about every pax game is this way really, but sure
18:33:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> brb
18:33:58  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> now i know for sure i need way more practice before participating
18:34:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > not really
18:34:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> ^
18:34:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > do you remember my SLH design?
18:34:46  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> well i havent practiced on a mountain yet
18:35:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > there are flat parts that also can use one\
18:35:06  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> and i took 3 hours to build a BBH for LL_RR just yet ><
18:35:08  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
18:35:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > for example !SLH
18:36:11  <Eightbitpwny> !SLH
18:36:15  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> i could try
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18:36:45  <V453000> !password
18:36:45  <PublicServer> V453000: onions
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18:36:55  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> the west part of it, how many lines?
18:36:59  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> 1 or 2?
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18:37:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > small town try just LR to the SL
18:37:29  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001D23A:
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18:37:59  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> imma grab my tea and give it a try
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18:39:14  <LoPo> !password
18:39:14  <PublicServer> LoPo: onions
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18:40:12  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi again
18:40:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi hi
18:41:59  <PublicServer> <LoPo> so :)
18:42:58  <PublicServer> <LoPo> where can i help :)
18:43:31  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > Wohoo i got the first SLH
18:43:37  <PublicServer> <LoPo> gz
18:43:55  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> what kind of rail is this?
18:44:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > maglev
18:44:10  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> k
18:44:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > ohh i think lopo claimed it now
18:44:34  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> yeah
18:44:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > Leshrac: want a new one?
18:45:03  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> sure
18:45:05  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ow sorry
18:45:11  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> ah dont worry
18:45:15  <PublicServer> <LoPo> k :)
18:45:15  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> i am still practicing
18:45:17  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > a bit north Leshrac
18:45:26  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> what will take you about 30 mins prolly will take me 3-4 hours ><
18:45:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> Leshrac: no hurry
18:45:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> just try :)
18:45:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > no that will leave no space for a transfer :(
18:46:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> you got plenty of space there
18:46:44  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> hmm? so i have to build the SLH next to the rails?
18:47:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > i think that is best
18:47:36  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> that will certainly make it somewhat easier
18:47:44  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> any more SLHs need building?
18:48:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> Maraxus: pick a spot with a city(cluster) and build it there
18:48:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> then build a transfer station and then build the Sbahn for the cities
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18:50:25  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> like !SLH->Matsubara?
18:50:29  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> can i tf the top layer of this hill away without it being too much tfing?
18:50:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> Maraxus: for example, yes
18:50:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > Leshrac: that isnt mutch TF
18:51:03  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> k, just making sure
18:52:12  <pugi> Leshrac: terraforming anything else than the top layer of the land is kind of hard :D
18:52:29  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000792D:
18:52:40  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> well it was a layered hill, defining the top is quite hard then
18:52:55  <XeryusTC> hmm
18:52:57  <XeryusTC> which plan won?
18:53:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > V
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18:55:37  <TWerkhoven[l]> !password
18:55:37  <PublicServer> TWerkhoven[l]: squats
18:55:57  <PublicServer> *** {TWerkhoven[L]} joined the game
18:56:28  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> ello
18:56:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > hey
18:56:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi TW
18:57:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, any more SLHs needed?
18:57:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
18:57:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> near Kawasaki i guess?
18:57:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> for example :)
18:59:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets enable dozer?
18:59:59  <PublicServer> *** Vinnie {} has joined spectators
19:00:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > oke
19:00:14  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
19:00:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > guys stop building please
19:00:40  <PublicServer> <LoPo> k
19:00:46  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> ok
19:00:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > server restart
19:00:52  <PublicServer> *** Eighbitpwny has joined company #1
19:00:54  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> k, will grab my tea then :P
19:01:20  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
19:01:22  <V453000> !rcon server_pw
19:01:22  <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'server_password' is: 'waived'
19:01:23  <V453000> !auto
19:01:23  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode.
19:01:26  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
19:01:39  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
19:01:40  <Eightbitpwny> !password
19:01:40  <PublicServer> Eightbitpwny: squats
19:01:41  <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game
19:01:43  <LoPo> !password
19:01:43  <PublicServer> LoPo: squats
19:01:59  <V453000> read the first command I made
19:02:00  <V453000> ..
19:02:00  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
19:02:03  <PublicServer> *** Vinnie {} joined the game
19:02:16  <V453000> !auto
19:02:16  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode.
19:02:18  <PublicServer> *** Vinnie {} has joined company #1
19:02:18  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
19:02:19  <V453000> !rcon unpause
19:02:19  <PublicServer> V453000: players
19:02:19  <PublicServer> V453000: server_info
19:02:19  <PublicServer> V453000: clients
19:02:19  <PublicServer> V453000: echo doneclientcount
19:02:19  <PublicServer> V453000: players
19:02:21  <PublicServer> V453000: server_info
19:02:21  <PublicServer> V453000: clients
19:02:23  <PublicServer> V453000: echo doneclientcount
19:02:23  <PublicServer> V453000: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Nippon no Tetsudo'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 228093209  Loan: 0  Value: 228281751  (T:2, R:0, P:9, S:0) unprotected
19:02:23  <V453000> k nevermind :)
19:02:25  <PublicServer> V453000: Current/maximum clients:     2/255
19:02:25  <PublicServer> V453000: you have 15 more messages
19:02:30  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > i can read
19:02:45  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
19:02:47  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
19:02:54  <V453000> duhh
19:02:55  <Leshrac> !password
19:02:55  <PublicServer> Leshrac: squats
19:03:08  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
19:03:08  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
19:03:10  <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game
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19:03:38  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
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19:04:03  <LoPo> !password
19:04:03  <PublicServer> LoPo: squats
19:04:08  <Vinnie_nl> guys with pw trouble read a line v wrote before he entered the server
19:04:45  <PublicServer> *** Leshrac joined the game
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19:04:51  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hmmm
19:04:52  <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game
19:04:53  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :)
19:06:04  <Dilandau> !password
19:06:04  <PublicServer> Dilandau: squats
19:06:28  <PublicServer> *** Eighbitpwny joined the game
19:06:32  <Dilandau> !password
19:06:32  <PublicServer> Dilandau: squats
19:06:37  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> how does this look?
19:06:37  <Eightbitpwny> waived?
19:06:56  <V453000> yes
19:07:29  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000EDD5:
19:07:39  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> meh
19:08:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > and preferably all exits should be at least 1 TL long before joining anyting
19:08:43  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > rest is ok
19:08:50  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> thats gonna be a challenge
19:09:16  <Dilandau> waived not worl
19:09:19  <Dilandau> work*
19:09:24  <Dilandau> !password
19:09:24  <PublicServer> Dilandau: levers
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19:09:41  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi
19:09:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi hi
19:09:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > hello
19:09:52  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
19:10:09  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> ello
19:11:25  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> now to find a priority tutorial
19:11:35  <XeryusTC> !password
19:11:35  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: levers
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19:12:37  <Vinnie_nl>
19:13:32  <XeryusTC> hmm
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19:13:54  <XeryusTC> buying this 1001 movies you've got to see before you die book might not have been the best idea wrt homework xD
19:14:10  <PublicServer> <LoPo> >_<
19:14:15  <TWerkhoven[l]> lol
19:14:20  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> I have 2.5 months of anime i still need to watch ><
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19:14:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
19:14:37  <XeryusTC> surprisingly though, i have already seen just over 100 titles
19:15:04  <XeryusTC> and that was on the quick look through the list, i havent actually double checked all of them
19:15:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > well each list includes usuals suspects fight club batman begins batman returns and inception
19:16:33  <pugi> missing a lot in that short list :P
19:16:44  <pugi> haven't seen usual suspects :/
19:16:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > you dont know Keizer Soze
19:17:10  <XeryusTC> Vinnie_nl: inception isnt in it
19:17:23  <XeryusTC> the last movie in it is Inglorius Bastards
19:17:24  <pugi> probably too new
19:17:25  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > good because it isnt that great
19:17:31  <XeryusTC> the first movie is from 1902
19:17:47  <XeryusTC> second movie is from 1903, and the third is from 1915 xD
19:18:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > i recomend oldboy or its other name Oldeuboi
19:18:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > even better plot then fightclub
19:18:26  <XeryusTC> Oldboy is in it, and i've seen it. In HD
19:18:42  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> is Spirited Away on that the list you still need to watch or already have watched?
19:18:55  <XeryusTC> Oldboy's plot basically is: guy gets locked up for a long time, and then he seeks revenge
19:19:09  <XeryusTC> Spirited Away is on it, and I never got round to watch it
19:19:15  <XeryusTC> the list is also available online somewhere
19:19:33  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> good, in that case it is a good list
19:19:49  <pugi> isn't spirited away an anime?
19:19:56  <pugi> i've seen it on a few lists of that kind
19:20:01  <XeryusTC> it is a bit weird though how movies are displayed in the book
19:20:04  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> Yeah, the only anime movie ever to win a oscar
19:20:18  <pugi> yeah, quite unusual :D
19:20:27  <XeryusTC> some movies have double pages (like star wars, LOTR, full metal jacket) while Pulp Fiction has a single page
19:20:33  <PublicServer> <LoPo> the large transfer stations needs to be roro?
19:20:41  <XeryusTC> and there is another movie which is probably in my top 10/15 which only has half a page
19:20:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
19:20:45  <PublicServer> <LoPo> k
19:20:53  <KenjiE20> Leshrac: I have more anime to watch than I can manage
19:20:58  <XeryusTC> but the list also holds documentaries
19:20:59  <KenjiE20> and I'm still collecting >.>
19:20:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > whats that movie?
19:20:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is no difference in roro or terminus
19:21:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> in general
19:21:08  <PublicServer> <LoPo> true
19:21:09  <XeryusTC> Vinnie_nl: can't recall
19:21:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > :(
19:21:20  <PublicServer> <LoPo> just asking for the overall layout :)
19:21:20  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> KenjiE20, same here, i can still watch for about 2.5 months without even sleeping
19:21:25  <XeryusTC> V453000: depends on how you implement terminus
19:21:28  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> collection is getting bigger as wwe speak :P
19:21:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> and depends how you implement roro
19:21:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> all the same crap
19:21:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> everything can be built sufficiently
19:21:50  <XeryusTC> Osai's style there is no difference, but otherwise you can get leaving trains to block entering
19:21:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> so what?
19:22:02  <KenjiE20> same, I'm grabbing the new Appleseed stuff atm
19:22:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> you use more platforms, where is the problem
19:22:14  <XeryusTC> ineffeciency
19:22:30  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000832E:
19:22:30  <V453000> so what, if it works and doesnt slow incoming line?
19:22:40  <Leshrac> @KenjiE20 my list
19:22:42  <XeryusTC> then it is ok
19:22:55  <Leshrac> sec
19:22:57  <Leshrac> wrong link ><
19:23:13  <XeryusTC> but it is more likely for terminus to be ineffecient than roro
19:23:48  <V453000> well define efficiency
19:23:53  <V453000> doesnt slow ML = works for me
19:24:02  <KenjiE20> should be mine
19:24:30  <Leshrac> ah i did use the correct link
19:24:54  <PublicServer> <LoPo> uhmm
19:24:58  <XeryusTC> i havent watched anime in ages
19:25:04  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> and yes i didnt watch death note
19:25:07  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> i have the manga :P
19:25:19  <aldor> !password
19:25:19  <PublicServer> aldor: linker
19:25:26  <PublicServer> <LoPo> before i continue :P is the position of the trasnfer station "Nagayama Woods" oky?
19:25:27  <XeryusTC> i have all Trigun and Ghost in the Shell manga <3
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19:25:39  <XeryusTC> unless the 3rd GitS has come out, then I don't have that
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19:25:45  <XeryusTC> and I probably dont want it either :P
19:25:50  <KenjiE20> I have yet to read GITS 1.5 manga
19:25:54  <KenjiE20> read 1 and 2 though
19:26:18  <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven[L] has left the game (connection lost)
19:26:31  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> I am collecting bleach, one piece, NGE, Battle Angle Alita, Shaman King, Ikigami, Hellsing and pandora hearts
19:26:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > dude how mutch time have you?
19:26:51  <KenjiE20> I used to watch bleach, I cba with the uber longs anymore though
19:27:03  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> i read a manga in under 20 mins
19:27:10  <XeryusTC> I also have D. Gray-man and Hitman Reborn! :P
19:27:19  <XeryusTC> and Jigoku Shoujo
19:27:23  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> a 300-400 page book in english in about 3-5 hours depending on who wrote it
19:27:28  <XeryusTC> which is now probably not complete anymore
19:27:46  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> most of the things i am collecting are far from complete
19:27:57  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> from Battle Angel Alita i need volume 7
19:27:59  <XeryusTC> but i prefer movies nowadays anyway
19:28:11  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> which, quite frankly, you cant get anywhere in dutch ><
19:28:27  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> not even used
19:28:30  <XeryusTC> i actually prefer movies over listening to music, which is quite weird for someone from my sub culture
19:28:39  <XeryusTC> Leshrac:
19:28:48  <XeryusTC> or .be
19:28:51  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> funny you mention that site
19:28:55  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> they dont have it either
19:29:09  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
19:29:13  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> hasnt been available for the last 1.5 years now
19:29:19  <XeryusTC> that happens more often with them :o
19:29:28  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> even the suppliers dont have it
19:29:37  <V453000> !password
19:29:37  <PublicServer> V453000: linker
19:29:42  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> probbaly gonna check if a shop in Rotterdam or Utrecht might have it
19:29:50  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> as no online shop does
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19:30:04  <Godde> !password
19:30:04  <PublicServer> Godde: linker
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19:31:33  <XeryusTC> i feel like recording a time lapse, but i also feel like just watching Deliverance :o
19:31:40  <XeryusTC> which also happens to be on that list :P
19:32:18  <KenjiE20> dual screen ftw :p
19:32:38  * TWerkhoven[l] agrees
19:32:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> record a timelapce of watching Deliverance?
19:32:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
19:32:58  <KenjiE20> although long gaps in timelapse from watching other screen ftl
19:32:58  <TWerkhoven[l]> lol
19:33:02  <KenjiE20> lol
19:33:13  <TWerkhoven[l]> post-processing
19:33:56  <XeryusTC> KenjiE20: i have dual screen, not female multitasking
19:34:02  <KenjiE20> lol
19:34:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> well then you need upgrades obviously
19:34:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> get beer, that has female hormones
19:34:51  <KenjiE20> what kind of beer have you been drinking?
19:35:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> any, it makes you say shit and unable to drive
19:35:03  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> i am watching amv's on my secondairy screen :P
19:35:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> old joke :p
19:35:25  <KenjiE20> ah
19:36:21  <PublicServer> <Godde> i like the look of these SLHs
19:36:27  <PublicServer> <Godde> they look spaghettish
19:36:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> CL is 2?
19:37:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
19:37:08  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> nice
19:37:30  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00006244:
19:38:17  <Blimb> !password
19:38:17  <PublicServer> Blimb: alcove
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19:38:42  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hello
19:38:52  <PublicServer> <Blimb> hi guys
19:38:56  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > hey
19:39:04  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> so can anyone evaulaute how crap mine is?
19:39:37  <pugi> don't get into that mindset
19:39:38  <KenjiE20> does it work?
19:39:51  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> kenjie, i dont know :P
19:39:58  <KenjiE20> close enough
19:40:06  <PublicServer> * TWerkhoven[L] takes a look
19:40:15  <pugi> look if you can reach the exit from every lane
19:40:27  <pugi> look if the exit lane can reach every ML lane
19:40:28  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> it looks like it "could" work
19:40:42  <pugi> and check if ml lanes have prio and doubled bridges/tunnels
19:40:49  <KenjiE20> Leshrac: then not nearly crap enough, go back and make it crapper :p
19:43:13  <PublicServer> <LoPo> gtg guys :)
19:43:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> later
19:43:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > cya
19:43:25  <PublicServer> <LoPo> transfer is ready for some smaller stations :)
19:43:31  <PublicServer> <LoPo> see you maybe later
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19:44:14  <PublicServer> <Godde> Might i suggest adding more X's to the transfer, lopo? :)
19:44:25  <PublicServer> <Godde> seeing as PBS is already there, might as well give it some choices
19:44:27  <TWerkhoven[l]> lopo just left
19:44:29  <PublicServer> <Blimb> lopo left
19:44:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> what is TL again?
19:44:33  <PublicServer> <Godde> well then
19:44:34  <TWerkhoven[l]> 8
19:44:35  <PublicServer> <Godde> allow me...
19:44:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> 8
19:44:36  <TWerkhoven[l]> cl2
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19:44:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> wow my delay is long today :d
19:45:53  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> hmm it needs some work
19:46:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> slh 03 done
19:46:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > \
19:46:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> \unless there is a different numbering scheme
19:46:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> Godde: :D
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19:47:17  <PublicServer> <Godde> i love spaghettiness
19:47:21  <V453000> !password
19:47:21  <PublicServer> V453000: alcove
19:47:27  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> i think that's everything
19:47:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Godde is my new best friend <3
19:47:37  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> lol
19:47:39  <PublicServer> <Godde> huh?
19:47:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> spaghetti is the best
19:47:48  <V453000> :)
19:47:49  <PublicServer> <Godde> aww yeeah
19:47:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > ohh sexy new plane is now possible
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19:47:58  <PublicServer> <Godde> the TL17 game was the shit
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19:48:14  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> you sure you dont wanna build it where the ml is right now?
19:48:24  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> i had to build it here
19:49:02  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> do you understand all my signs?
19:49:19  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> so far yeah, if i have questions ill ask
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19:49:44  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> :)
19:50:20  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> an easy way to make multiple bridges in sync is with an x inbetween
19:50:30  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> like on the southern ml-bridges
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19:53:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> can I delete the airport @ Kawamori?
19:53:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> move it for now imo
19:53:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> even to the sea is fine
19:53:25  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok
19:54:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what speed is the load/unload set?
19:55:00  <Vinnie_nl> normal
19:55:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> doesnt that depend on the newgrf?
19:55:25  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes
19:55:33  <Vinnie_nl> yes parameter for jap trainset is 31 1 stands for normal
19:55:35  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but thought you could change it in jap set
19:55:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> it does, but japan set has it modifiable by parameters
19:55:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ah cool
19:55:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> didnt know about that
20:01:37  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hhm is 17 TL3 platform enough for my area?
20:02:17  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or shall I go for 20?
20:02:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> you will see
20:02:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> but I suppose it could be
20:02:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> if not, add
20:02:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> id say
20:02:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> my sbahn is giving in to the disease that is pbs
20:02:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I hope it is, as I am planing the island around that station
20:03:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: PBS on SBahns is fine and eventually even nice
20:03:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i know, but still :P
20:03:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> when I build Sbahns lately, I go for _ultimate_ mess
20:04:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> he already left :P
20:04:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > yeah
20:05:42  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> argh ><
20:06:37  <XeryusTC> @cl
20:06:37  <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also:
20:07:30  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00016E4B:
20:07:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok
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20:09:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > oke i am ready for pax
20:09:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> same here, but no s-bahn yet
20:09:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> same here
20:09:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> well less so than you XeryusTC
20:09:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> pwnt :P
20:10:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I just have a block of stations
20:11:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, town growth is already on?
20:11:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and i thought he likes you?
20:11:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> probably
20:12:16  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I think he think I am his friend
20:12:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> since I played with him on .stable a few times
20:12:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nope
20:14:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Leshrac: I just realised he isn't in irc here
20:14:37  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no need ot hide chat
20:14:49  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> could anyone give me a bit of a hand with this SLH, i am having troubles with it
20:14:55  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> ah ok
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20:15:32  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> but yeah a +b would work :P
20:22:32  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00014BA9:
20:23:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie > oke i am gonna go cya tommorow
20:23:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
20:23:18  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> cya
20:23:20  <PublicServer> *** Vinnie  has left the game (leaving)
20:23:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> cya
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20:27:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, only two stations per line :(
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20:28:49  <Kangoo> !password
20:28:49  <PublicServer> Kangoo: pepper
20:28:52  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> How does this look?
20:28:58  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> bas
20:29:00  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> bad
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20:29:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi Kangoo
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20:29:30  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> howdy
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20:30:12  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> and how bad is bad?
20:30:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I haven't even looked
20:30:28  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> ><
20:30:30  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so no clue XD
20:30:32  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> lol
20:30:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we talking about Nagayama Woods?
20:31:16  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> SLH /Leshrac
20:31:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its missing parts
20:32:35  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no it is quite nice , but has a few bad parts
20:34:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Leshrac: you need to make sure that all splits have room for 1 waiting trains
20:34:30  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> befor they merge in the SLH
20:35:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and the same on the merge back to the ML
20:35:14  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> anyone want to have a look at my first SLH and give some feedback?
20:35:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> looks solid so far
20:36:26  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> maybe have 1til waiting bay on splits?
20:37:00  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> nod - I'll try to find room for that
20:37:01  <LXSJason> !password
20:37:01  <PublicServer> LXSJason: awaken
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20:37:20  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> Ohaio
20:37:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi there
20:37:26  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> ello
20:37:28  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> hello lxs
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20:37:32  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000024F4:
20:37:38  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> Hi LXS
20:39:43  <PublicServer> <Godde> guys
20:39:47  <PublicServer> <Godde> look at my awesome logic
20:39:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
20:39:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok I am off now
20:40:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> it just failed godde :p
20:40:05  <PublicServer> <Godde> dang
20:40:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I build a bit more tomorrow
20:40:09  <PublicServer> <Godde> i noticed
20:40:11  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> woah - whats going on at uemori stations?
20:40:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh :D
20:40:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> repetitive habit detected
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20:41:42  <PublicServer> <Godde> there it goes again
20:41:56  <PublicServer> <Godde> these japanese trains have horrible acceleration
20:42:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> just make those areas larger so that the detector trains have more time
20:42:04  <PublicServer> <Godde> so they dont update fast enough
20:42:10  <PublicServer> <Godde> but now things are slowing down :(
20:42:14  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> im confused, lol, what do i use for local train thingies? regular rail? and mainrail is just maglev? or what?
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20:42:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> LXSJason: anything for local
20:42:40  <PublicServer> <Godde> damnit
20:42:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> maglev for local means it needs a lot of capacity
20:42:50  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> as long as it runs on rails (shikansen or plain)
20:44:09  <LXSJason> righto
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20:48:18  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> This better?
20:49:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> w00t, done with my sbahn :D
20:49:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> woot indeed :D
20:50:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> also, movie's finished
20:51:26  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> still need !move this?
20:52:32  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00008AEF:
20:53:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> meh, TL is 2.7 xD
20:54:00  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> Could anyone give me some comments on my SLH? i wonder if it is correct now
20:54:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> should work well
20:54:51  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> hmm only took me about 3 hours ><
20:54:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> worth it, isnt it :)
20:55:36  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> yeah kinda, lets hope i get better at it
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20:55:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is quite good
20:56:15  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> well i could merge the other way after the second bridges
20:56:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> nah
20:56:19  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> that would solve it i think
20:56:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> it wont be possible
20:56:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
20:56:33  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> or split the other way round?
20:56:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> you always need to end up in the same direction as in the beginning
20:56:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> not 90°
20:57:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> to be possible to sync
20:57:18  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> ah ok
20:57:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> but dont bother really
20:57:37  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> agree that it shouldnt matter much, with the join right after
20:57:37  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> is my signaling also in order?
20:57:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> it looks so
20:57:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> good job
20:58:03  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> thank you
20:58:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> definitely very nice for a first try
20:58:26  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> i had some practice with a SLH of L_R to L_R together with vinnie
20:58:42  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> but this one is just messing around, trying to get it to fit
20:58:46  <XeryusTC> !rcon set max_roadveh 2
20:58:46  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: you are not allowed to use !rcon
20:58:53  <XeryusTC> @op
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20:59:00  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> hehe trying to make an SRS @ nosaki here...
20:59:02  <XeryusTC> !rcon set max_roadveh 2
20:59:07  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> brb
20:59:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> anyone feels like making trains go to YAM?
21:01:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> me me
21:01:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> I got some pax to :p
21:01:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> feel free to send them, I am still working on my Sbahns
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21:02:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> N700 right?
21:02:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure thing
21:02:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> where is your station at?
21:02:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> islandz
21:02:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> middle of map
21:02:54  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh
21:02:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> the mess
21:03:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> will place there HQ at least for now to accept pax
21:04:04  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> im back
21:04:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ok
21:05:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> LXSJason: that isnt too friendly with landscape ;)
21:06:11  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> (a) sorry
21:06:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont worry
21:06:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> just note it
21:06:24  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> but i tought there was a no 2 grade climb rule thingie
21:06:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> ahhh, the damn wiki :D
21:06:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> that article is years old and doesnt apply :p
21:06:54  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> *rofl* ok
21:07:02  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> wont bother with steep climbs anymore then :D
21:07:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw that rule definitel was for ML
21:07:32  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000120A8:
21:07:41  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> oh ok, noted. :)
21:07:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> though Sbahn trains are weak, they might slow down drastically in hills
21:07:58  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> so anything i can try to ruin? :P
21:10:03  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> slh06 is to be connected where it is now?
21:10:37  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> nothing, as i dont know in which way vinnie had in mind to connect it when he told me to make it
21:11:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> you will probably want to take care of Furunuma and Noyama
21:11:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> so you need a main station connected to that SLH, and then a city network which transfers passengers to the transfer station
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21:12:15  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> then i first have to re-route the ML through my SLH probably
21:12:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
21:12:40  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> but i have a problem with that Transmitter south of it
21:12:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> which one
21:12:52  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> ><
21:12:56  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> ^^,
21:13:27  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> how many squares is the ML allowed to climb?
21:13:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> any
21:13:51  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> i mean sequentially
21:13:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> any :)
21:14:03  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> ok
21:16:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh aww
21:16:28  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> hmm?
21:16:30  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> ?
21:16:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> when I make colourful trains, I cant refit parts of it to different colour
21:16:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> has to be unified
21:16:47  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> lol ><
21:17:39  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> i once had a trainset where the goods cars kept changing color everytime it went into a depot
21:17:47  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> half of them were yellow the other half gray
21:17:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> isnt that nars?
21:18:06  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> could be
21:19:51  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> hmm, do the bridges to the east of Noyama need to stay in the ML?
21:20:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> certainly not
21:20:43  <PublicServer> <makjes> i think you should route the ML south west of Noyama
21:20:57  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> yeah i was looking into that
21:21:05  <PublicServer> <makjes> then you have both Noyama and Furunuma on the same side of the ML
21:21:28  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> Might have to evict some tennants tho :P
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21:23:30  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> can i remove !water?
21:23:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
21:23:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> there was never any water
21:23:54  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> cause bridges would be a pain in the ass :P
21:23:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> was there?
21:24:04  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> which water?
21:24:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
21:24:44  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> me drank the water that was never there, nor here.
21:24:58  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> tasted funny
21:25:40  <TWerkhoven[l]> that would be the trash at the bottom
21:25:59  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> >.<
21:27:31  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> is train 23 functioning properly?
21:27:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> nope
21:27:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> wrong orders, thanks
21:29:05  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> interesting
21:29:11  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> my junction works ><
21:29:18  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> hadnt expected that
21:29:31  <TWerkhoven[l]> always nice to see the first trains cross it
21:29:37  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> at least for trains going straight through it :p
21:29:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> xD
21:29:49  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> shush :P
21:30:13  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> xD
21:30:46  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> now to build a transfer station
21:30:46  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> what size does it need to have?
21:30:58  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> whatever you think it needs
21:31:10  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> depends on how many ppl you are gonna transfer there
21:31:18  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> Well seeing this is my first station, i would say i dont know XD
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21:31:40  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> in that case, err on the side of lots
21:31:54  <mfb-> hi
21:31:54  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> then maybe you will get to expand it later on ;)
21:31:58  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> hello mfb
21:32:08  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> ey mfb
21:32:20  <mfb-> !password
21:32:20  <PublicServer> mfb-: gabbed
21:32:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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21:32:42  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, already building
21:32:44  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> time for Zzz - cu tomorrow
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21:33:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> gnight
21:33:05  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> gn
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21:34:23  <PublicServer> <mfb> SLHill :D
21:34:31  <PublicServer> <makjes> ;o)
21:34:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> how ill :p
21:35:42  <PublicServer> <mfb> high-capacity trains again
21:37:04  <pugi> !password
21:37:05  <PublicServer> pugi: blinds
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21:37:21  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> gnite all
21:37:25  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> gn
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21:41:12  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch town_growth_rate
21:41:12  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'town_growth_rate' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 4)
21:41:19  <XeryusTC> V453000: can i raise it?
21:41:23  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> hmm
21:41:30  <V453000> sure thing
21:41:36  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch town_growth_rate 4
21:41:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> GROW!
21:42:08  <PublicServer> <mfb> the southern part may need a new town later
21:42:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
21:42:35  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> cross that bridge when we get there
21:42:39  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> i am off too
21:42:43  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> gnite all
21:42:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeyy Furuhara has a WTC coming :D
21:42:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya TWerkhoven[L]
21:43:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, exporting timelapse btw
21:43:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> to check if it works out right :P
21:43:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> timelapse of building 10 rows of the same stations? :D
21:43:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> interestng .. :d
21:43:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> basically :P
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21:43:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> :p
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21:43:50  <PublicServer> <mfb> attack of dutch TF
21:44:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> just cute water "ears" :P
21:44:21  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> hmm, a station with good flow seems harder as a SLH ><
21:44:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is
21:45:10  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh no, japanese signals again
21:45:48  <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe it is useful to modify the SLH a bit - or to move the station
21:46:20  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> well to be perfectly honest, eveything sounds good at this point
21:46:27  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> especially since this is my first station
21:46:38  <PublicServer> <mfb> not much room left for an entry now
21:46:40  <PublicServer> <mfb> +exit
21:46:48  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> exit could be behind it
21:46:56  <PublicServer> <mfb> of course
21:46:56  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> that is north of it
21:47:15  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> was my thought
21:48:13  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> any help would be appreciated
21:48:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Furunuma Woods?
21:48:43  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> yeah
21:48:49  <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe one waiting bay for 2 platforms
21:49:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think that the example on the wiki is perfect for that
21:49:03  <PublicServer> <mfb> like that
21:49:08  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> look up balancing on the wiki
21:49:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or possibly stations :P
21:49:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> you dont need balancing for L_R I think :p
21:49:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> also, wtf is that <invalid cargo>?
21:49:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> just japanes buildings bug
21:51:33  <PublicServer> <mfb> wait, where is the difference between XTC's and V's plan? just the amount of SLHs?
21:51:39  <PublicServer> <mfb> +TL7 vs TL8
21:51:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> probably randomness of towns
21:51:46  <PublicServer> <pugi> yes
21:51:48  <PublicServer> <mfb> ok
21:51:51  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> hmm, i think if i move the station further back i could use a design from the wiki
21:51:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> but yes, XeryusTC didnt read plans and made his own :D
21:52:08  <PublicServer> <mfb> or use a design from the wiki and fit it in ;)
21:52:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i stopped reading yours after 3 signs :P
21:52:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
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21:52:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> case of tl;dr
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21:52:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> first 3 signs define it basically
21:52:42  <PublicServer> <pugi> stations are easier than slhs in my opinion
21:52:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> my attention span is being used up by homework nowadays
21:52:44  <PublicServer> <pugi> and much more fun
21:52:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> pugi: so how do you connect the stations then
21:53:11  <PublicServer> <pugi> entry to all platforms
21:53:15  <PublicServer> <pugi> and all platforms to exit
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21:53:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> like one big roro
21:53:38  <PublicServer> <pugi> depends on the space available
21:53:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> what if trains need to just go through
21:54:24  <PublicServer> <pugi> through the station without stopping?
21:54:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> isnt that a bit stupid?
21:54:43  <PublicServer> <pugi> yes
21:54:59  <mfb-> ?
21:55:07  <PublicServer> <pugi> so why are you asking? o0
21:55:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> asking about what
21:55:36  <PublicServer> <pugi> you asked what if trains just need to get through?
21:55:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
21:56:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> because in such case it becomes mess
21:56:14  <PublicServer> <mfb> how does that case happen?
21:56:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> when trains dont want to stop in the station?
21:56:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> well it isnt that hard to make tunnels under the station, but still
21:56:39  <PublicServer> <mfb> why should they use the SLH then?
21:56:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> to have the choice to either go to the station or continue on ML?
21:57:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> so the station doesnt get unnecesarry traffic?
21:57:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> they can continue on the ML
21:57:14  <PublicServer> <pugi> oh...
21:57:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> SLH06
21:57:35  <PublicServer> <pugi> did you get the impression i would rather directly connect a station into a mainline instead of using a slh?
21:57:39  <PublicServer> <pugi> that would be stupid...
21:57:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> then why do you say building a slh is bad ..
21:58:02  <PublicServer> <pugi> i just said that slhs are harder to build than stations
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21:58:27  <pugi> okay, i didn't use the verb "to build"
21:58:35  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> how ridiculous is it to make a bridge a holding bay?
21:58:41  <mfb-> interesting to re-read the conversation now :D
21:58:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> ah, yes, you did :)
21:58:50  <mfb-> Leshrac: quite useful?
21:58:50  <XeryusTC> !rcon set larger_towns
21:58:50  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: CmdBuildSingleSignal         LXSJason  date:2025-12-03  tile:0000A24B  p1:00005001 p2:00000000 text: price:65
21:58:50  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ‎[All] V453000: nevermind
21:58:50  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: say "<mfb-> Leshrac: quite useful?"
21:58:50  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ‎[All] PublicServer: <mfb-> Leshrac: quite useful?
21:58:50  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'larger_towns' is: '7' (min: (0) 0, max: 255)
21:58:53  <XeryusTC> !rcon set larger_towns 1
21:59:06  <V453000> wtf that is XeryusTC
21:59:13  <PublicServer> <pugi> sorry, not even i would consider using stations instead of slhs :D
21:59:15  <XeryusTC> V453000: increases growth rate of all towns
21:59:24  <XeryusTC> normally only 1 in x towns can become huge
21:59:26  <V453000> dont know that option
21:59:28  <XeryusTC> now all can :D
21:59:38  <V453000> that is with map generation
21:59:44  <V453000> how many towns are cities
21:59:48  <V453000> with the (city)
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21:59:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> not for running game
22:00:16  <XeryusTC> i dont know whether it checks it during the game :(
22:00:24  <XeryusTC> i think it does though :o
22:00:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> well Sumigi is not a city :)
22:00:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> for example
22:00:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> how can you tell?
22:01:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is basically just a limit on max size
22:01:11  <mfb-> just look at it :)
22:01:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont think there is any limit on max size
22:01:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there is
22:01:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there is a limit on max buildings in a town
22:01:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and a soft limit because of that setting
22:01:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> maybe it is just about ease of becoming huge though
22:02:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> anyway, didnt hurt to change the setting ;)
22:02:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> certia
22:02:09  <PublicServer> <mfb> makjes: trains should always split before other trains join
22:02:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> certainly :)
22:02:47  <PublicServer> <makjes> ah
22:02:53  <PublicServer> <makjes> of course
22:03:17  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> How does it look?
22:03:27  <PublicServer> <pugi> ah, it was ctrl+click to quickly remove signs
22:03:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> should work
22:03:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> braking space may be useful
22:04:27  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> shouldnt the holding bay be sufficient braking space?
22:04:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe some signals to make the waiting bays faster
22:04:29  <PublicServer> <pugi> i would use pbs for the entry
22:04:37  <PublicServer> <pugi> directly in front of the crosses
22:04:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ah, my towns are finally somewhat starting to grow :D
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22:05:01  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> and how much braking space?
22:05:07  <PublicServer> <pugi> and yes, add breaking space
22:05:11  <PublicServer> <mfb> ~3 tiles maybe
22:05:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> let me check ;)
22:05:19  <PublicServer> <pugi> you could move everything to the front without moving the station
22:05:35  <PublicServer> <mfb> just move the station ;)
22:05:45  <PublicServer> <pugi> even more tf
22:05:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> either CL2 is too low for these trains or they brake from the start
22:05:57  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> then the exit would gave a problem with the exit
22:06:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> basically it is ceil(max speed/25) for distance in tiles
22:06:03  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> if i moved everything forward
22:06:05  <PublicServer> <pugi> they break when they enter station tile afaik
22:06:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> 300/25=12
22:06:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> they brake 25km/h per tile
22:06:45  <PublicServer> <mfb> that is not much
22:06:53  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> d
22:06:59  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> hmm
22:07:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> also, max distance is always the train length
22:07:07  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> they break when they enter the station
22:07:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> well, you don't need full speed the whole time
22:07:26  <PublicServer> <pugi> break, brake... :D
22:07:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> but the last 2-3 tiles, they are really slow
22:07:33  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000AD2A:
22:07:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i am going to get myself a sandwich elvis :P
22:07:42  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> so do i need to add 3 squares?
22:07:52  <PublicServer> <pugi> just move the beginning...
22:07:54  <PublicServer> <pugi> quite easy
22:07:56  <PublicServer> <mfb> some trains brake, but if you do it wrong some break :D
22:08:16  <PublicServer> <pugi> what are you doing?
22:08:30  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> adding other signaling
22:09:11  <Godde> !password
22:09:11  <PublicServer> Godde: maroon
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22:09:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> well hello beautiful
22:09:47  <PublicServer> <Godde> hello
22:09:51  <PublicServer> <Godde> *rawr*
22:10:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> jesus
22:10:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> presignal bypas
22:10:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> fuck
22:10:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> fuck
22:10:38  <PublicServer> <Godde> where? D:
22:10:39  <PublicServer> <mfb> the wiki uses it for 6+ splits I think
22:10:45  <PublicServer> <mfb> SLH06
22:10:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> the wiki is old
22:10:50  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> do we have to transport mail? or only passenger ok aswell?
22:10:53  <PublicServer> <mfb> and even there, it can lead to jams
22:10:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> only passengers
22:10:57  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> okies :)
22:10:59  <PublicServer> <pugi> i thought you wanted to move the station entry to south...
22:11:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> mfb: with TL8 and 6 bays it probably cant
22:11:22  <PublicServer> <pugi> to add braking space
22:11:26  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm.. indeed
22:11:48  <PublicServer> <mfb> but there, the presignal bypass is useless
22:11:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
22:11:54  <PublicServer> <pugi> like this
22:12:04  <PublicServer> <pugi> and move everything behind
22:12:06  <PublicServer> <mfb> the possibility to jam is linked to the advantage of the bypass
22:12:18  <PublicServer> <pugi> so you have 3 more spaces behind the crosses
22:12:36  <PublicServer> <pugi> and you can make much shorter bridges
22:12:42  <PublicServer> <pugi> you only need 4 length
22:13:34  <PublicServer> <pugi> and now you have massive braking space :D
22:14:08  <PublicServer> <pugi> and if you use pbs for the crosses you can have trains entering and leaving at the same time
22:15:08  <PublicServer> <pugi> and you don't need a combo and an exit signal at the top lane...
22:15:14  <PublicServer> <pugi> only exit is enough :)
22:15:42  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> Like this?
22:15:48  <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah, looks great :D
22:16:10  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> Well someone else can do the rest as far as i am concerned anyways
22:16:12  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> i need sleep
22:16:24  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> Need to get up at 6:15 for my internship
22:16:55  <PublicServer> <pugi> just add a sign that someone else can do the sbahn part of the slh
22:17:03  <PublicServer> <pugi> and maybe rename your station if you want to :)
22:18:09  <PublicServer> <pugi> btw, why is sbahn called sbahn? :D
22:18:17  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> isnt that a tram
22:18:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> I have no clue
22:18:23  <PublicServer> <pugi> yes
22:18:29  <PublicServer> <pugi> bahn is german for train
22:18:37  <PublicServer> <pugi> but the S...
22:18:37  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> the S is for the german word street
22:18:45  <PublicServer> <pugi> okay, straßenbahn...
22:18:51  <PublicServer> <pugi> that might be the reason
22:19:03  <PublicServer> <pugi> didn't think of that :)
22:19:21  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> anyways gnite all
22:19:31  <PublicServer> <pugi> good night and have fun tomorrow :)
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22:20:13  <PublicServer> <pugi> V, you need to add a road bridge to takatani, otherwise people can't cross the ocean :D
22:20:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> some bridge is about to come :)
22:20:44  <PublicServer> <pugi> okay :D
22:20:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> thought I wont do much today
22:21:14  <PublicServer> <pugi> not much? too late ;)
22:21:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm? .)
22:21:46  <PublicServer> <pugi> you did all the other island stuff
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22:22:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, sure
22:22:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> but not much _more_ :P
22:22:15  <PublicServer> <pugi> ah okay
22:22:35  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000A2CB:
22:22:35  <PublicServer> <Godde> V, would you mind taking a look at something?
22:22:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> guess :)
22:22:50  <PublicServer> <Godde> at my logic madness
22:22:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
22:23:01  <PublicServer> <Godde> the signal in the middle there, is it supposed to be a combo or ecit?
22:23:03  <PublicServer> <Godde> exit*
22:23:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> which middle :D
22:23:13  <PublicServer> <Godde> the signal in the middle of the train circles that is lol
22:23:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> ah
22:23:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> exit
22:23:40  <PublicServer> <Godde> well that makes things a little more steady
22:23:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> just see not gates in other games :p
22:23:57  <PublicServer> <Godde> i couldnt be bothered to load uo other games now xD
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22:24:01  <PublicServer> <Godde> i get it now though, thanks! :)
22:24:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, old games are the source of knowledge :) why do you think openttdcoop is getting better all the time
22:24:53  <PublicServer> <Godde> i was looking at a post on the blog, but i couldnt make out if it was a combo or exit :P bite me!
22:25:05  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> Anyone who wants to pick up people at Nagayama Transfer is free to do so
22:25:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> unlike for example stable servers (or even our server) which is getting worse and worse due to not having any knowledge base :)
22:25:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> Godde: sure, that isnt the point, just a little error :)
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22:26:59  <Eightbitpwny> I found some trains that have wrong orders, who wants to fix it? its small trains 2 tiles running inside a town
22:27:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> where
22:27:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> fixed, thanks
22:27:34  <Eightbitpwny> Morino, there are 2 trains (blue color) that
22:27:37  <Eightbitpwny> ok :)
22:27:55  <XeryusTC> i just remembered
22:28:00  <XeryusTC> i dont like sandwich elvis :(
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22:29:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> gnight
22:30:00  <PublicServer> <Godde> nite
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22:30:51  <PublicServer> <pugi> makjes: what i learned is that slhs don't really need double bridges/tunnels for the sideline
22:31:14  <PublicServer> <makjes> wouldnt that jam up the SL?
22:31:18  <PublicServer> <pugi> only the mainline should move without pauses
22:31:55  <PublicServer> <pugi> well, sideline has to wait for an empty space on the ml
22:31:58  <XeryusTC> gn v
22:31:59  <PublicServer> <makjes> okay, but ML-exit should have double?
22:32:17  <PublicServer> <pugi> don't think so
22:32:25  <PublicServer> <pugi> unless it is directly after the split
22:32:33  <PublicServer> <pugi> but it never hurts to have double ;)
22:32:57  <PublicServer> <makjes> :o)
22:33:59  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> bah, there are 2 stations on my SRS that the trains refuse to coop with
22:34:55  <PublicServer> <pugi> uhm...
22:35:01  <PublicServer> <pugi> you have a bit of a blockage there :D
22:35:13  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> ya for some reason they dont like my overflow track
22:35:15  <PublicServer> <makjes> where?
22:36:01  <PublicServer> <pugi> the slh2 sideline :D
22:36:01  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> komori heights, dont want to enter waiting bay
22:36:01  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> and komori they prefer station over overflow track
22:36:02  <PublicServer> <makjes> would that block?
22:36:13  <PublicServer> <pugi> why the weird signaling?
22:36:35  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> weird what where?
22:37:03  <PublicServer> <pugi> hm
22:37:29  <PublicServer> <pugi> wasn't there something about a pathfinder trap?
22:37:36  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000A6A9:
22:37:58  <PublicServer> <pugi> you don't have to remove it...
22:38:10  <PublicServer> <makjes> what?
22:38:26  <PublicServer> <pugi> talking to jason :D
22:38:47  <PublicServer> <makjes> k
22:39:15  <PublicServer> <pugi> now it works
22:39:29  <PublicServer> <pugi> lucky you...
22:39:31  <PublicServer> <LXSJason>  :D
22:39:37  <PublicServer> <pugi> never remove signals that way :D
22:39:59  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> (a)
22:40:09  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> thats how i crash trains :p
22:40:29  <PublicServer> <pugi> they need to be able to have multiple paths for a reverser
22:40:35  <PublicServer> <mfb> wtf
22:40:42  <PublicServer> <mfb> depot SRNW stations
22:41:01  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> ya, take up less space :p
22:41:12  <PublicServer> <mfb> two tiles more than a path-based one
22:41:27  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> but PBS slows down i heard
22:41:29  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> so myeah
22:41:36  <PublicServer> <mfb> 3, if you count the EOL
22:41:38  <PublicServer> <mfb> no
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22:41:54  <PublicServer> <pugi> they don't choose the stations any m,ore
22:42:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> waiting bay at komori heights looks too short
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22:42:48  <PublicServer> <pugi> waiting bay at komori is not used :D
22:42:50  <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, TL2.5
22:43:22  <PublicServer> <mfb> well, good night
22:43:49  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> zzzz* wtf :(
22:44:04  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> this used to work.... ok 0.73 but still
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22:45:42  <PublicServer> <pugi> weird...
22:46:00  <PublicServer> <pugi> why do they turn now?
22:46:36  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> no idea, but for some reason thy like to skip a few of the stations aswell...
22:47:01  <PublicServer> <pugi> :D
22:49:25  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> maybe its the shared orders... let me try to remove and see
22:51:37  <Eightbitpwny> Someone wrote Signal Errors at Komori hights, Im new to all of this but just looking at the signals they do look switched around if compared to the other stations
22:51:55  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> Good Night
22:52:03  <Eightbitpwny> nn
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22:52:11  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> eightbit, their not reversed afaik, if you compare them to the others ;)
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22:52:31  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> works perfectly at nosaki woods for example
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22:53:03  <Eightbitpwny> yea your right, the electrical lines messed up my view, turned em off now :p
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22:55:32  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> mmm its so fricken weird... they skip nosaki heights,
22:55:40  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> but enter nosaki east if loadinbay empty
22:55:48  <Eightbitpwny> then the only diff I can see to the other stations is that the waiting track isnt immediately next to the Line track
22:55:54  <PublicServer> <pugi> :D
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22:55:54  <LoPo> !password
22:55:54  <PublicServer> LoPo: willow
22:56:09  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> same error is at nosaki heights.
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22:56:11  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> so myeah
22:56:23  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> o hai lopo!
22:56:31  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hello :)
22:56:41  <PublicServer> <pugi> luckily i have no idea
22:56:43  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> "finished" the SRS at your station ;)
22:56:49  <PublicServer> <LoPo> nice
22:56:57  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> it works but it skips 2 stations for some reason
22:57:01  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> and cant figure out why
22:57:05  <Eightbitpwny> well I dont even understand how its supposed to work hehe just giving my insight :p
22:57:09  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> nosaki heights, and komori heights
22:58:50  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> only komori heights and nosaki heights act weird
22:58:50  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> lol
22:58:56  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yrah
22:58:58  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i see it
22:59:06  <PublicServer> <pugi> might be the "heights" part of the name :P
22:59:13  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> LOL
23:01:05  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> to think that when i first did this linear SRS I copied it soley off a picture and got it to work
23:01:36  <PublicServer> <pugi> aren't the dummy trains to make sure the train that enters the station gets loaded fully?
23:01:42  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> y
23:01:53  <PublicServer> <pugi> look at nosaki woods (first station)
23:02:13  <PublicServer> <pugi> dummy unloads, train enters, both trains load
23:02:23  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> le sigh, lol
23:02:30  <PublicServer> <pugi> and the important train only loads to 20% :D
23:02:56  <PublicServer> <pugi> shouldn't the trains enter when it has finished loading?
23:03:02  <PublicServer> <pugi> so unload/load is at the same time
23:03:24  <PublicServer> <pugi> and why is the dummy 2 tiles and the other 3 tiles?
23:03:38  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> long time since i had practice with the orders
23:03:46  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> cause teh capacity isn different? :p
23:03:56  <PublicServer> <pugi> okay...
23:04:08  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> and shorter station, to keep the space needed equal
23:05:50  <PublicServer> <pugi> now it worked
23:05:57  <PublicServer> <pugi> at woods
23:06:04  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> its totally random, lol
23:07:16  <PublicServer> <pugi> NOS TRASFER :D
23:07:20  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ^^
23:07:22  <PublicServer> <pugi> i'll add a N
23:07:34  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ow ;P
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23:07:39  <PublicServer> <LoPo> didnt even see taht
23:09:56  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ^^
23:10:26  <PublicServer> <makjes> i'm off guys. nite nite
23:10:29  <PublicServer> <LoPo> bb
23:10:31  <PublicServer> <pugi> me too
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23:34:03  <PublicServer> <LoPo> are busses also allowed for sbahn?
23:34:13  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> train only
23:34:23  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah
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23:39:54  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> GRRRRRRR!@*^%T@%^$&*&
23:40:00  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ?
23:40:18  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> SRS failing @ 3 stations, but its too weird.
23:40:45  <PublicServer> <LoPo> oky
23:40:50  <PublicServer> <LoPo> weird
23:41:02  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> its only those 3
23:42:23  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> lets see if id add penalty waypoints
23:42:23  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> what happens
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23:43:08  <PublicServer> <LoPo> wooot! Nagayama is growing :)
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23:50:59  <PublicServer> <LoPo> pff im going to sleep
23:51:10  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> lol, NN
23:51:56  <PublicServer> <LoPo> bb
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