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Log for #openttdcoop on 22nd September 2011:
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04:46:30  <Leshrac> !password
04:46:30  <PublicServer> Leshrac: goring
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06:27:08  <Leshrac_At_Internship> morning
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06:29:33  <aldor> !password
06:29:33  <PublicServer> aldor: goring
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11:10:45  <Vinnie_nl> !playercount
11:10:46  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: Number of players: 0 (0 spectators)
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11:12:01  <LoPo> hi
11:12:04  <LoPo> !password
11:12:05  <PublicServer> LoPo: goring
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11:15:56  * V453000 pints at the name
11:16:02  <V453000> *points
11:16:50  <planetmaker> specifically at the name 'Player'
11:17:06  <PublicServer> <Player> sorry
11:17:09  <PublicServer> <Player> im LoPo
11:17:11  <PublicServer> <Player> at work
11:17:19  <V453000> I know, but still change it
11:17:20  <planetmaker> an?
11:17:24  <PublicServer> <Player> how do i do that :P
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11:17:31  <Vinnie_nl> ~
11:17:37  <Vinnie_nl> type name LoPo
11:17:47  <Vinnie_nl> !password
11:17:47  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: goring
11:17:49  <V453000> or when joining the game
11:17:50  <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to LoPo
11:17:54  <PublicServer> <LoPo> there
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11:18:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello all
11:19:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> these bridges are a pain in the *ss
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11:21:07  <LoPo> gtg now :) bye
11:21:29  <V453000> just evil mode
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11:24:05  <V453000> !password
11:24:05  <PublicServer> V453000: beaned
11:24:06  <Leshrac_At_Internship> how has Kojima grown?
11:24:14  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00011870: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00011870.png
11:24:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> hy
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11:24:17  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey
11:25:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> game looks almost done
11:25:17  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> maybe to fast
11:25:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
11:25:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> or is it because map is 1/2of the normal size that we finish a game in 4 days
11:26:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> partially is, partially isnt
11:26:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> many people did build, map isnt large, plan is simple, pax takes a lot of space
11:26:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> but many 1/2 maps are long games
11:27:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> but still, better have an alive game which is short than a game which ends up half-abandoned
11:27:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> true
11:28:04  <Leshrac_At_Internship> I hope i can tribute more to the next game
11:28:23  <Leshrac_At_Internship> wont be much of a problem seeing the next game will probably be in the weekend
11:28:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont worry :)
11:28:32  <Leshrac_At_Internship> i feel like i have done like nothing
11:30:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> but yes, if we finish this tonight, new building can start during the weekeng
11:30:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> weekend
11:31:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> which would be good
11:31:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke lets do it
11:32:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> SLH 03 is 3/4th a hub. fix that?
11:32:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> is that neecessary?
11:33:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> that connection would be stupid anyway
11:33:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think we should grow kojima or rather make a 2nd city there
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11:34:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> due to the way how it is built I dont think it will grow quickly though
11:34:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi yarr
11:34:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yarr
11:34:31  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
11:34:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, someone already claimed the area next to my sbahn :)
11:35:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> V including new transfer or on Kojima?
11:35:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont add anything to the ML now I think
11:35:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> id be glad it works and finish rather quickly imo
11:35:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> before we get jams on ML etc
11:37:07  <Leshrac_At_Internship> hmm, then ill probably be photoshopping tonight
11:37:29  <Leshrac_At_Internship> i could use a new signature for forums
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11:39:08  <Dilandau> !password
11:39:08  <PublicServer> Dilandau: unsung
11:39:12  <Dilandau> hello
11:39:14  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00018490: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00018490.png
11:39:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey
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11:39:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wtf, someone decided it was a good idea to connect YAM and KWI?
11:40:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
11:40:40  <Leshrac_At_Internship> btw this is some of my old work: http://leshrac.mad-jack.com/Signs.html
11:40:41  <Webster> Title: public_html/Signs.html (at leshrac.mad-jack.com)
11:41:42  <V453000> do you draw it or is it from somewhere?
11:42:54  <Leshrac_At_Internship> i grab the renders from: http://www.planetrenders.net/
11:42:56  <Webster> Title: Planet Renders v4.1 (at www.planetrenders.net)
11:43:02  <Leshrac_At_Internship> but i make the background myself
11:43:23  <Leshrac_At_Internship> i cant draw sadly else i would do it myself
11:43:54  <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (leaving)
11:45:56  <V453000> hehe me neither
11:46:03  <Leshrac_At_Internship> http://leshrac.mad-jack.com/signs/beta%20balthazar%20sig.jpg this one took about 5-6 hours to make
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11:46:46  <Maraxus> !password
11:46:46  <PublicServer> Maraxus: unsung
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11:47:19  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> Hi
11:47:37  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello\
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11:47:56  <V453000> yes I know I did the same some years back
11:48:02  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hello
11:49:10  <V453000> dunno I would add some black glowing outline, on low opacity to make it look less "flat"
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11:50:39  <Leshrac_At_Internship> well a glowing outline doesnt look good on the god of fire and war
11:51:07  <V453000> well, put it under him?
11:51:09  <V453000> )
11:51:26  <V453000> he would get more visible, too
11:52:46  <imus> !download
11:52:47  <PublicServer> imus: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
11:52:47  <PublicServer> imus: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r22815
11:52:49  <Leshrac_At_Internship> when i look back at it now, the background is already to bright and he is too visible
11:52:51  <Leshrac_At_Internship> http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/thumb/5/51/%22Balthazar%22_concept_art.jpg/250px-%22Balthazar%22_concept_art.jpg
11:53:09  <Leshrac_At_Internship> thats some concept art from him
11:54:15  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00017F1B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00017F1B.png
11:54:16  <V453000> ooh, bloody awesome
11:54:33  <V453000> the lower part of him is missing a lot :)
11:54:56  <Leshrac_At_Internship> well he isnt a living creature anymore
11:55:19  <imus> !password
11:55:19  <PublicServer> imus: furies
11:55:20  <Leshrac_At_Internship> he is a god, this is his "Spirit"/"Avatar" form
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12:00:23  <Leshrac_At_Internship> http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/6/67/Gods_of_Tyria_Avatars.png
12:00:29  <Leshrac_At_Internship> all the gods of Guildwars
12:01:05  <Leshrac_At_Internship> left to right: Dwayna, Melandru, Lyssa, Balthazar and Grenth
12:01:08  <Vinnie_nl> that middle one has a mask from chronicles of riddick
12:03:12  <Leshrac_At_Internship> the middle one has 4 "faces"
12:03:17  <Leshrac_At_Internship> :P
12:03:29  <Leshrac_At_Internship> It is the god of the mesmers, masters of deception
12:04:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i guess it is a little more than a game for you :P
12:04:21  <V453000> hm :)
12:04:30  <Leshrac_At_Internship> It is my second favorite MMO ever
12:04:42  <Leshrac_At_Internship> played it for at least 1700 hours over 2 years time
12:04:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> say wow please say wow
12:04:58  <Leshrac_At_Internship> after which, due to no new content, i stopped playing it
12:05:03  <V453000> :D 1700 hours?
12:05:08  <Leshrac_At_Internship> My favorite will always be Ragnarok online
12:05:18  <Leshrac_At_Internship> which i played for at least 8 years
12:05:23  <V453000> he, my girlfriend played that too
12:05:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i never got past runescape. MMO takes to mutch time to lvl
12:05:44  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Wow will probably be at in the top 10 somewhere, MAYBE in the top 5
12:05:48  <V453000> dunno I was never interested in MMOs, so .. :)
12:05:59  <Leshrac_At_Internship> runescape is crap compared to most MMOs
12:06:28  <V453000> best MMO is openttd.
12:06:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Massive is about 20 clients?
12:06:44  <Leshrac_At_Internship> I cant wait for Guildwars 2
12:06:53  <pugi> openttd is maybe an mo :P
12:06:55  <pugi> but not mmo :D
12:07:42  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Openttd is a Singleplayer game with multiplayer capabilities
12:07:56  <Leshrac_At_Internship> just like games as Diablo 2 and Warcraft 3
12:08:10  <Leshrac_At_Internship> or Civ 5 for example
12:09:15  <hylje> reimplementing openttd in a massive fashion would destroy worldwide productivity
12:09:16  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00018027: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00018027.png
12:09:33  <hylje> but luckily it's a huge task and a thorough redesign
12:10:09  <V453000> I did not say openttd is a MMO, I said it is best of MMOs :D :P
12:10:33  <Leshrac_At_Internship> You cant implement TTD in a MMO kind of way
12:10:48  <Leshrac_At_Internship> the concept just doesnt fit what you can make into a MMO
12:10:52  <V453000> I know \o/
12:10:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> unless you add a A130 with 105 mm howitzer to shoot trains
12:11:32  <V453000> well what is minecraft?
12:11:35  <V453000> not mmo?
12:11:37  <Leshrac_At_Internship> when TT (the original) was made, internet wasnt even available to the general public
12:11:59  <Leshrac_At_Internship> i wouldnt call it massive, but i would call it a multiplayer online game
12:12:23  <V453000> hm k :)
12:12:28  <Leshrac_At_Internship> as any "normal" server over 32 clients will lag
12:12:58  <Leshrac_At_Internship> and yes i say normal cause the yogscast once has a massive cloudserver with over a thousand people online
12:13:01  <V453000> because tahat is a MASS of people :p
12:13:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke that sbahn is good as done
12:13:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> which
12:13:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> on your hill
12:13:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> my hill?
12:13:48  <PublicServer> <imus> my hill =D
12:13:50  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you said a hill near Kojima
12:13:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
12:14:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> that isntmy hill tho :D
12:14:16  <PublicServer> <imus> leshrac's hill :p
12:14:36  <PublicServer> *** imus has left the game (leaving)
12:14:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lesharc i got some bad news for you
12:14:45  <Leshrac_At_Internship> hmm?
12:14:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> someone stole your project on your hill
12:14:57  <Leshrac_At_Internship> ok it was 2622 people online
12:15:06  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Imus did, i gave him permissionm yesterday
12:15:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> I have worse news
12:15:30  <Leshrac_At_Internship> as i wouldnt be able to play yesterday due to having some nice company
12:15:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> the tpwn isnt growing at all
12:15:47  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Nuke it!
12:15:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
12:15:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> send the pope
12:16:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> nah we can just leave empty space, ML cant take more anyway
12:19:40  <Leshrac_At_Internship> the game is nearing finished anyways
12:19:59  <Leshrac_At_Internship> most space has already been taken by cities, not much to build anymore
12:24:16  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000021A4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000021A4.png
12:25:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> SRS = Self regulationg stationwalk?
12:25:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> probably
12:31:20  <Leshrac_At_Internship> ah, i seem to have forgotten to put a signature on my website
12:31:22  <Leshrac_At_Internship> http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff189/Whopper_Cheese/Signatures/sabersig.png
12:36:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> what would go for a wiki image
12:36:56  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Nagasaki:
12:37:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the town then
12:37:24  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not the ICE
12:38:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm
12:38:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite ugly
12:38:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke do your station again
12:39:17  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00001E95: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00001E95.png
12:39:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> Konuma is nice
12:39:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm kawamori might be nicer
12:40:31  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Harai ?
12:40:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> like venice
12:40:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> ah
12:40:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
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12:42:04  <Leshrac_At_Internship> FINALLY a good song on the radio
12:42:17  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Daft Punk with Around the world
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12:42:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> remixed or normal?
12:42:39  <Leshrac_At_Internship> normal version
12:42:52  <Leshrac_At_Internship> the Alive 2007 remix is better tho
12:43:28  <Leshrac_At_Internship> this one
12:43:30  * Leshrac_At_Internship  Music: (Stopped)  DAFT PUNK - AROUND THE WORLD, HARDER BETTER FASTER STRONGER  00:00/05:42 
12:43:50  <V453000> @stage Finalizing
12:43:50  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG215 (r22815) | STAGE: Finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands"
12:43:57  <V453000> !rcon set max_trains 0
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12:44:20  <V453000> guess we can let the game run for now if someone wanted to say something about it
12:44:42  <Vinnie_nl> you got a map for next game?
12:44:58  <V453000> yes
12:45:24  <Vinnie_nl> only 860 trains may also be a record
12:45:53  <V453000> uhm we had 2500 on 2x bigger map?
12:45:56  <V453000> @records
12:45:56  <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 26 | Trains: 2553 (PSG#201) - 2522 (PZG#5) - ( 3000 (PSG#180) logic net) | Single cargo type output: 200,169 (PZG#13) | World Pop: 6,150,671 (PSG#201) 
12:46:08  <Leshrac_At_Internship> V, what climate is the new map?
12:46:18  <V453000> how does that matter Leshrac?
12:46:19  <V453000> :)
12:46:26  <Vinnie_nl> V i meant lowest record
12:46:28  <Dilandau> V ?
12:46:45  <Leshrac_At_Internship> So i can practice on anything else than temperate
12:46:50  <Dilandau> i need to replace some train in Harai :(
12:46:54  <V453000> :d it is temperate though
12:46:54  <Leshrac_At_Internship> so far havent played much else aas temperate :P
12:47:07  <Leshrac_At_Internship> then i wont need to practice tonight
12:47:10  <V453000> !rcon set max_trains 1000
12:47:12  <V453000> Dilandau: go
12:47:22  <Dilandau> thx
12:47:27  <Leshrac_At_Internship> at least not at a other climate
12:47:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> anything else?
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12:48:01  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> thx is ok now
12:48:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> opinions? game end now, or let run and later?
12:48:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont care too much tbh
12:48:50  <Leshrac_At_Internship> let it run till at lets 8pm GMT+1
12:49:09  <Leshrac_At_Internship> so people who arent here have time to make a comment on it still if they need to
12:49:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm, why not I guess
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12:50:29  <Vinnie_nl> oke i am off to. gonna show off on luukland
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12:50:40  <Leshrac_At_Internship> lol
12:50:52  <Vinnie_nl> i love boosing my ego :)
12:51:02  <V453000> we noticed
12:51:39  <Leshrac_At_Internship> i tried 1 game on luukland, i hated it how anything else than trains had major disadvantages tied to them
12:52:01  <V453000> it is not a "serious" server
12:52:08  <Vinnie_nl> yeah dont go to the city-builder games
12:52:08  <V453000> good just for having fun for a few hours
12:52:31  <Leshrac_At_Internship> i wasnt in a citybuilder game, i was on S5 i think
12:52:41  <Leshrac_At_Internship> it was crappy anyways
12:52:44  <V453000> Vinnie_nl: why did you put a game with dying industries on stable? :o
12:52:52  <Vinnie_nl> CB asked it
12:53:00  <Vinnie_nl> and when he asked its like complaining
12:53:24  <V453000> ...
12:53:39  <V453000> if people ask to make 2cc set with ECS will you do that too?
12:53:42  <Vinnie_nl> i have a new map anyway
12:53:52  <Vinnie_nl> NOOOOO. no ECS EVER
12:54:17  <V453000> well, dead industries are worse than ECS
12:54:35  <Vinnie_nl> they only die if not serviced
12:54:56  <V453000> yes
12:55:01  <V453000> not everyone is there from the game start
12:55:07  <V453000> ...
12:55:17  <V453000> thats what the server is for basically
12:55:20  <Vinnie_nl> i waited till someone came online to play but DD let the game run all night
12:55:56  <V453000> ..
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12:57:09  <V453000> so one tells you this another tells you that and you just do what they say regardless
12:57:10  <V453000> ..
12:58:01  <Vinnie_nl> no i do what i think is right for that game
12:58:58  <Vinnie_nl> and yes i still fail at makeing maps for stable. but i think it is getting less each and every map
12:59:35  <V453000> well, I believe you will remember this :)
13:00:51  <Vinnie_nl> when have i disappointed you? :P
13:01:00  <V453000> hm?
13:01:04  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Well in defence of ECS, i kinda the the increase of industries, but you have to set the Unlimited Supply and Unlimited Acceptance parameters
13:01:21  <V453000> Leshrac_At_Internship: ECS is totally unplayable imo
13:01:22  <Leshrac_At_Internship> 1 downside to that, they grow exponentionaly
13:01:26  <V453000> yes
13:01:31  <V453000> which is just downright stupid
13:01:42  <V453000> and farms produce 7k in summer, 0 in winter ... awesome
13:01:50  <Leshrac_At_Internship> hehe
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13:02:09  <Leshrac_At_Internship> yeah farms dont like to grow due to that
13:02:24  <Leshrac_At_Internship> but the increase in industry chains is nice
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13:02:33  <V453000> hm, FIRS is much better
13:03:33  <Leshrac_At_Internship> cause forest->trees->sawmill->goods is a bit quick in my opinion
13:04:01  <V453000> uhm, seems fine to me
13:04:06  <V453000> is playable
13:04:42  <Vinnie_nl> lesharc that is the same for ECS and original ECS it is only wood products instead of goods
13:04:55  <Dilandau> is ok now V, you can block train ^^
13:05:02  <Dilandau> thx :)
13:05:09  <V453000> I think I will let it open for others too :p
13:05:17  <Dilandau> ok ;)
13:05:48  <Vinnie_nl> Leshrac: you have teamspeak right?
13:06:42  <Leshrac_At_Internship> yeah i have
13:07:05  <Vinnie_nl> i got it to work on my iphone. maybe use it next PSG?
13:07:13  <Leshrac_At_Internship> we could
13:07:20  <Leshrac_At_Internship> But why your Iphone?
13:07:31  <Vinnie_nl> saves me a headset :)
13:07:42  <Leshrac_At_Internship> and @V453000 FIRS looks good
13:07:49  <V453000> yes it does :)
13:07:58  <Leshrac_At_Internship> now you actually need to think about what to bring to a industry
13:07:59  <V453000> and the future versions are even so much better
13:08:21  <Vinnie_nl> isnt there a limit on the amount of cargo's?
13:08:50  <planetmaker> 32 (not 42)
13:09:10  <Leshrac_At_Internship> 32 cargo types
13:09:12  <Leshrac_At_Internship> hardcoded
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13:09:22  <Leshrac_At_Internship> can be changed, i think :P
13:09:41  <Leshrac_At_Internship> tho you would have to compile your own client
13:10:16  <planetmaker> oh, yes, it can. And you most likely break newgrf support, if not done right ;-)
13:10:21  <TWerkhoven> and industrie grf, if you want to use it
13:10:22  <V453000> =D
13:11:12  <Leshrac_At_Internship> dont think it will break if you multiply it by 2
13:11:13  <planetmaker> No current NewGRF would support it either
13:11:20  <planetmaker> Well. You bet
13:11:39  <planetmaker> I'd bet the reverse :-)
13:11:54  <Leshrac_At_Internship> I am never gonna make a bet about software
13:12:13  <planetmaker> damn. I thought I was about to win a sixpack of beer now :-(
13:12:15  <Leshrac_At_Internship> I am majoring in Computer Science, i know better than to bet on what software might do :P
13:12:32  <planetmaker> The limit is the 32bit registers for NewGRFs.
13:12:43  <planetmaker> All NewGRF variables are at most 32bit
13:13:08  <V453000> :D
13:13:14  <V453000> beer beer beer
13:13:17  <planetmaker> It's feasible to change that. But it's not easy. Not easy by far
13:13:21  <XeryusTC> i like beer
13:13:40  <Leshrac_At_Internship> thats why you change it to a logical value higher than the current
13:13:41  <Vinnie_nl> wow beer = activity
13:13:47  <Leshrac_At_Internship> will make it a hell of a lot easier
13:14:06  <Leshrac_At_Internship> brb gonna grab some coffee
13:14:14  <Vinnie_nl> you guys all set a highlight for the word beer?
13:14:26  <XeryusTC> yes
13:14:31  <XeryusTC> which makes orudge kind of annoying
13:14:40  <XeryusTC> because he talks about beer all the time in #tycoon xD
13:14:50  <V453000> :D
13:15:15  <XeryusTC> maybe i should annoy him back with saying owen at random :P
13:16:06  <V453000> and claim it has the same meaning as beer. :D
13:16:18  <XeryusTC> nah
13:16:27  <XeryusTC> owen = hangover
13:16:39  <Leshrac_At_Internship> i reckon my computer at home will be bleeping alot
13:16:40  <XeryusTC> the only time i met him he had this massive hangover the next morning
13:16:44  <XeryusTC> good times though ;)
13:16:47  <Leshrac_At_Internship> it has a highlight on Leshrac XD
13:16:50  <Vinnie_nl> i wake up with a owen. sounds real bad
13:17:39  <orudge> argh, highlights
13:17:47  <orudge> XeryusTC: you have a highlight for beer?
13:17:50  <orudge> how curious
13:17:55  <XeryusTC> yes
13:18:04  <XeryusTC> most of the people with an @ in this channel have ;)
13:18:23  <orudge> bunch of alcoholics, the lot of you, clearly
13:18:50  <orudge> can you not restrict your highlights to a particular channel? (I suppose it depends on your client)
13:18:54  <XeryusTC> says Owen "hungover" rudge :P
13:19:00  * orudge hasn't been hungover in ages
13:19:05  <orudge> but then, I've not really been drinking in ages :p
13:19:06  <XeryusTC> nope i cant :P
13:19:12  <orudge> when I do drink heavily, I do tend to get bad hangovers :(
13:19:13  <XeryusTC> but i dont mind that much
13:19:16  <Leshrac_At_Internship> get a better client then
13:19:22  <V453000> ooh we have orudge in this channel too? :) didnt know
13:19:27  <orudge> oui
13:19:28  <XeryusTC> i have gotten used to random highlights from #openttd and #tycoon
13:22:22  <Leshrac_At_Internship> but yeah i hardely ever drink
13:22:33  <Leshrac_At_Internship> sometime a beer or 2-3 with friends but that is it
13:23:00  <hylje> Leshrac_At_Internship: ttd concept scales up to arbitrary player counts, infrastructure we have now doesn't
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13:34:57  <Leshrac_At_Internship> meh, this always on DRM from D3 does sting a bit
13:34:58  <Leshrac_At_Internship> http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/09/22/how-diablo-iiis-drm-will-affect-you/
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13:45:01  <Vinnie_nl> ok i even fail on luukland. this is so bad
13:45:45  <Leshrac_At_Internship> lol ><
13:45:48  <planetmaker> Vinnie_nl, that's because they run hacked servers and they changed the game rules drastically
13:45:57  <Vinnie_nl> !password
13:45:58  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: mishap
13:46:00  <Leshrac_At_Internship> trains get 3x cargo
13:46:12  <planetmaker> their servers just pretend to be the version they announce
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13:46:28  <Leshrac_At_Internship> RV and aircraft have double or triple running cost
13:46:32  <Leshrac_At_Internship> so yeah
13:46:35  <Vinnie_nl> i dont mind means more time to spend here
13:47:20  <planetmaker> Vinnie_nl, to understand their frame of mind, download the 'secret cargo' NewGRF from bananas and have a look
13:47:33  <Vinnie_nl> pm ty will try that
13:47:54  <planetmaker> check back on the nickname list of the developers while doing so ;-)
13:48:20  * Leshrac_At_Internship pops down the farm, grabs a Shetland Pony and slaps Leshrac with it!
13:48:30  <Vinnie_nl> it is listed under his name in the newgrf menu :)
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13:49:46  <Leshrac_At_Internship> well when i was on there, they also range banned a guy, didnt work. But it was too much work to MAC ban him from the physical server on which their servers ran
13:49:51  <planetmaker> especially read the industry descriptions it provides
13:50:23  <planetmaker> and then regret seeing the nice HOMM graphics abused this way
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13:51:46  <V453000> homm?
13:51:57  <planetmaker> Heores of Might and Magic
13:52:06  <planetmaker> *Heroes
13:52:19  <V453000> uhm, its graphics where
13:52:34  <V453000> on bananas?
13:52:48  <Leshrac_At_Internship> interesting to see the compiled GRF under notepad
13:52:51  <planetmaker> in the 'secret graphics' NewGRF, written by the Luukland guys; yes, on bananas
13:52:52  <Leshrac_At_Internship> "callback is not working (but why?) 	?"
13:53:10  <V453000> lol
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13:54:20  <Leshrac_At_Internship> ?ÞRubidium poisoned all miners and thus will be closed . 
13:54:20  <Leshrac_At_Internship> ?ÞRubidium is infesting our world again  
13:54:20  <Leshrac_At_Internship> ?ÞRubidium is going down  
13:54:20  <Leshrac_At_Internship> ?ÞNew Rubidium  
13:54:20  <Leshrac_At_Internship> ?ÞRubidium Mine  
13:54:22  <Leshrac_At_Internship> ?Þ? Dangerous area < 
13:54:22  <Leshrac_At_Internship> 0?Rubidium mine is inhabited by Rubitrolls. Be careful V 
13:54:24  <Leshrac_At_Internship> 1?Oblivion hole can drain your money away if not properly suplied with Rubidium. f 
13:54:24  <Leshrac_At_Internship> 2?Rubidium mine is inhabited by Rubitrolls. Be careful
13:54:26  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Rubidium is hazardous and toxic material!  
13:54:26  <planetmaker> uhm...
13:54:41  <Leshrac_At_Internship> interesting
13:54:51  <Leshrac_At_Internship> just pulling it from the GRF
13:54:52  <V453000> o wtf
13:54:56  <Leshrac_At_Internship> there is more
13:54:57  <Leshrac_At_Internship> 3?Oblivion hole needs fresh Rubidium or it can drain your money.
13:54:57  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Rubidium older than 50 days is billed!
13:54:57  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Rubidium older than 100 days contaminates your bank account. ) 
13:55:12  <planetmaker> Leshrac_At_Internship, please use a past service for these kind of things
13:55:29  <Leshrac_At_Internship> i hoped it was 1 line
13:55:45  <Leshrac_At_Internship> as there were no CRLF at the end
13:56:37  <Leshrac_At_Internship> most of the GRF is unreadable in a text editor
13:56:43  <planetmaker> no surprise
13:56:47  <V453000> WTF is that newGRF for? :Z
13:56:53  <planetmaker> industry newgrf
13:57:11  <planetmaker> with some hooks for their hacks, supposedly
13:57:14  <V453000> I know, but ... weird
13:57:16  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Text for cargo and industry  it says on line 3
13:57:53  <V453000> hm well I always knew that luukland is retarded
13:57:58  <V453000> but this ..
13:58:03  <Leshrac_At_Internship> it is published under the creative commons license
13:59:17  <Leshrac_At_Internship> what is interesting tho, is that plain text isnt encrypted
13:59:20  <Leshrac_At_Internship> the rest is ><
13:59:21  <planetmaker> I wonder how old this grudge is... at least two years or so. And just because their ideas of what constitutes a good patch differs from ours ;-)
13:59:40  <planetmaker> Leshrac_At_Internship, nothing is encrypted, neither the rest.
13:59:42  <V453000> hmm :)
13:59:50  <planetmaker> But did you ever try to read an image as text file?
13:59:58  <Leshrac_At_Internship> well at least obfuscated then
14:00:22  <Leshrac_At_Internship> it does also give weird output as a hex file
14:01:21  <planetmaker> It's also not obfuscated
14:01:25  <planetmaker> it's just binary data
14:01:50  <planetmaker> and a hex editor would display it just fine
14:02:03  <planetmaker> you just need to know the data format
14:02:07  <Leshrac_At_Internship> true
14:02:10  <planetmaker> a simple png looks the same
14:03:14  <planetmaker> Leshrac_At_Internship, check out http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net for data format descriptions ;-)
14:05:49  <Leshrac_At_Internship> ill look for a editor at home
14:05:54  <Leshrac_At_Internship> see what i can find in it :P
14:06:27  <Leshrac_At_Internship> doubt i will get any luck with one specifically, yes feel the irony is the coincidence, Ragnarok Online forums
14:07:11  <planetmaker> don't edit them hex. Use grfcodec
14:07:21  <planetmaker> to (de)compile them to human readable format
14:07:30  <planetmaker> (for certain interpretations of 'readable'
14:07:35  <V453000> LOL That is fucking ridiculous :D Those retards on luukland have some quest of income or whatnot and an ECS map. In each corner of the map there is a power plant and a few coal mines. The only thing they do is take the corners and transport to the opposite corner with a straight diagonal line. Now when one company completes the quest, they delete the company and build the exact same thing again with different company :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
14:08:09  <Leshrac_At_Internship> >.>
14:08:17  <Vinnie_nl> that is luukland
14:08:32  <V453000> that is ... "how fucking stupid can one get" :D
14:08:37  <Vinnie_nl> just be the first with the diagonal line
14:09:04  <Leshrac_At_Internship> or block of the power plants with stations of your own
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14:09:21  <Vinnie_nl> nah the admin on luukland is always on
14:09:33  <Vinnie_nl> even more then admins over here
14:09:56  <planetmaker> I doubt that
14:09:59  <hylje> wat
14:10:20  <Leshrac_At_Internship> never ever try to discredit a admin on their own server
14:10:29  <Vinnie_nl> lets test it. I gonna raid the normal luukland server and time it when i get banned
14:10:29  <Leshrac_At_Internship> they wield The Almighty Banhammer
14:10:54  <V453000> Vinnie_nl: which one
14:10:58  <Vinnie_nl> normal
14:11:01  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Vinnie_nl, use a proxy, they just ban your current IP
14:11:18  <Leshrac_At_Internship> so 1 IP spoof and you are back on XD
14:11:22  <Vinnie_nl> i dont know how to make it work
14:11:30  <Vinnie_nl> i tried it also when i was banned here
14:11:36  <Vinnie_nl> but it didnt work
14:11:49  <V453000> you were ever banned here?
14:11:56  <Vinnie_nl> @mmler
14:12:01  <V453000> ahh
14:12:06  <V453000> when you first came
14:12:12  <V453000> yes that was kinda silly
14:12:17  <Vinnie_nl> the i tell your mother comment
14:12:47  <Leshrac_At_Internship> wanna hear something funny now you are talking about "Ill tell your mother"
14:12:56  <Vinnie_nl> you told here?
14:13:15  <Leshrac_At_Internship> In the Red Orchestra 2 EULA file it states that when you cheat your CD-key gets banned
14:13:16  <V453000> Leshrac_At_Internship: though I think you dont need a proxy ... to get a ban on luukland seems rather like a medal to me
14:13:18  <Leshrac_At_Internship> the normal stuff
14:13:39  <Leshrac_At_Internship> and it also states that they will tell your mother when you cheat :P
14:13:58  <Leshrac_At_Internship> V453000, if you use a proxy you can earn it multiple times!
14:14:04  <Leshrac_At_Internship> bronze: 1 ban
14:14:06  <V453000> ah :D
14:14:08  <Leshrac_At_Internship> silver: 5 bans
14:14:08  <Vinnie_nl> V luukland 1 is no competition so lets do it time starts now
14:14:12  <Leshrac_At_Internship> gold: 25 bans!
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14:21:36  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> ><
14:22:55  <Leshrac_At_Internship> hmm?
14:23:52  <Leshrac_At_Internship> does luukland have a IRC?
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14:28:57  <planetmaker> honestly... you're giving it now more attention than they're worth ;-)
14:29:28  <Leshrac_At_Internship> ow i only thought it would be funny to hack into their channel and "accidentally" set a mode +b on *!*@*.*
14:29:48  <V453000> :D
14:30:07  <planetmaker> :-D
14:30:24  <planetmaker> use a good anonymous proxy ;-)
14:31:24  <Leshrac_At_Internship> well if they are using a chanserv on their IRC server, i dont even have to be in the room. IF i can get my hands on the owner pass
14:32:16  <Leshrac_At_Internship> at least, if they use a better chanserv as this IRC
14:32:39  <Leshrac_At_Internship> the one on irc.rizon.net gives me total access to the channel, even if i am not in there
14:35:04  <Leshrac_At_Internship> also something i am missing on the nickserv here, groups
14:35:48  <XeryusTC> can you please not talk about hacking other channels in this channel?
14:36:56  <Leshrac_At_Internship> sure, if you want that
14:37:11  <TWerkhoven> they are on this network leshrac
14:38:59  <TWerkhoven> at least according to their wiki
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14:39:49  <Leshrac_At_Internship> hmm, then their channel is hidden
14:40:10  <Leshrac_At_Internship> as a /list command with either the mask *luuk* or *land* dont show anything
14:40:48  <planetmaker> is this IRC's chanserv bad?
14:40:59  <planetmaker> and... this server supports groups
14:41:14  <Leshrac_At_Internship> nickserv doesnt have the group option
14:41:20  <planetmaker> but chanserv
14:41:28  <Vinnie_nl> lesharc search for luukland on goole then you will find there irc channel
14:41:41  <Leshrac_At_Internship> hmm, interesting they have a different channel name
14:42:33  <Leshrac_At_Internship> on rizon you have at least double the amount of commands on chanserv
14:43:59  <TWerkhoven> i like how they call openttd a patch
14:44:40  <Leshrac_At_Internship> chanserv on rizon: http://pastebin.com/ZAskmbPV
14:45:07  <planetmaker> well. Some of them are banned on tt-forums for a reason of gross mis-conduct, too ;-)
14:45:26  <TWerkhoven> loads of commands do not a good services-package make
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14:45:54  <Patrickov> !password
14:45:55  <PublicServer> Patrickov: fatten
14:46:04  <TWerkhoven> lol
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14:46:18  <Godde> !password
14:46:18  <PublicServer> Godde: fatten
14:46:28  <Leshrac_At_Internship> well the SOP, AOP, HOP and VOP lists are quite usefull
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14:46:57  <Leshrac_At_Internship> and for the nickserv the group command, with which you can group a list of nicks, so you can change between them without having to id every time
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14:47:06  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi
14:47:16  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Hi
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14:48:58  <Leshrac_At_Internship> it also shares channel privileges between nicks
14:49:50  <Leshrac_At_Internship> and even if one nick gets thrown out of the list, you will maintain all privileges of the group
14:50:37  <Leshrac_At_Internship> anyways...
14:50:39  <Leshrac_At_Internship> I am off
14:50:47  <Leshrac_At_Internship> time to go home :p
14:50:52  <Leshrac_At_Internship> ill be back in like 45 mins
14:50:55  <TWerkhoven> cya
14:51:01  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Do you guys usually play at school or office?
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14:52:35  <planetmaker> for my part: usually not
14:53:08  <V453000> I used to play singleplayer on high school because I had _nothing_ to do there
14:53:15  <V453000> not in the college though
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14:58:46  <XeryusTC> <Leshrac_At_Internship> on rizon you have at least double the amount of commands on chanserv <- doesnt necessarily mean that it is better
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14:59:49  <TWerkhoven> he left x
14:59:59  <XeryusTC> i know
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15:11:50  <Leshrac> I am still here :P
15:12:27  <Leshrac> Patrickov, i dont play at the office
15:12:32  <Leshrac> i am only online on IRC
15:13:07  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> I'm just curious, since I sometimes see people saying "going home" or something like that
15:13:40  <Leshrac> i am online on IRC mostly to chat with other people from school
15:13:59  <Leshrac> as IRC can be used almost everywhere, MSN not so much\
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15:14:05  <Leshrac> but yeah time for dinner
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15:21:44  <Tray> !password
15:21:45  <PublicServer> Tray: arider
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15:26:56  <Tray> already finalizing? ):
15:28:09  <planetmaker> Patrickov, IRC presence doesn't mean playing ;-)
15:28:19  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Lol
15:29:08  <planetmaker> well, of course :-)
15:29:24  <planetmaker> actually.... IRC presence doesn't even mean online ;-)
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15:29:58  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> BTW I saw some station accepting "invalid cargo".  What's that
15:30:20  <planetmaker> A NewGRF bug
15:30:32  <planetmaker> in the Japanese Houses NewGRF
15:32:59  <Patrickov> ic
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15:36:47  <imus> !password
15:36:47  <PublicServer> imus: cabins
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15:37:22  <Leshrac> im back
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15:40:13  <imus> I wonder how long this "finalizing" is gonne take :p
15:40:57  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Meanwhile I am wondering whether SLH04 has problem or it's just too close to SLH08
15:41:56  <Leshrac> probably answer b
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15:43:23  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> And i wonder how a SL should be treated... both SLH01 and SLH04 are too tolerant to SLs it seems
15:43:53  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> This is my first game to come active so I still have a lot to learn
15:45:25  <Leshrac> lets edit the settings of my lan server abit. Time for realistic acceleration!
15:46:14  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Do we need to get off for a while?
15:46:24  <Leshrac> mine is my own server
15:46:28  <Leshrac> you cant even get on it :P
15:46:34  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Lol
15:46:36  <Leshrac> it is running on my local network :P
15:47:07  <Leshrac> well, thats not exactly true, you can access it through my vpn
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16:04:14  <Patrickov> !help
16:04:14  <PublicServer> Patrickov: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
16:05:11  <Patrickov> !screen
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16:05:44  <Patrickov> !screen
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16:06:09  <Patrickov> !screen
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16:07:00  <PublicServer> *** Patrickov has joined spectators
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16:08:34  <Patrickov> !save
16:08:34  <PublicServer> Saving game...
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16:14:44  <Patrickov> !password
16:14:44  <PublicServer> Patrickov: fonder
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16:22:11  <Patrickov> The final file seems wrong, I opened it and seems it's game 214
16:24:04  <Dilandau> force the save
16:25:54  <Patrickov> ?
16:26:11  <Dilandau> !save 215
16:26:11  <PublicServer> Saving game...
16:26:38  <planetmaker> !rcon save psg215
16:26:39  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Saving map...
16:26:39  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Map successfully saved to psg215.sav
16:26:49  <Dilandau> thx ^^
16:26:51  <planetmaker> named savegames need admin rights, I'm afraid :-)
16:27:04  <V453000> hm :)
16:27:05  <planetmaker> otherwise everyone could DOS our server by flooding it with savegames
16:27:20  <Dilandau> ok ;)
16:27:32  <XeryusTC> !url
16:27:32  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org
16:27:39  <planetmaker> :-)
16:31:26  <Patrickov> I see thanks, but if it is so maybe it's better to hide the savegame link first
16:32:14  <Vinnie_nl> !password
16:32:14  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: fonder
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16:34:53  <V453000> !getsave http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20419525/psg216start1.sav
16:34:54  <PublicServer> V453000: OK :-)
16:35:55  <V453000> lets end the game?
16:37:01  <planetmaker> !playercount
16:37:02  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Number of players: 1 (1 spectators)
16:37:06  <planetmaker> hm... update :-)
16:37:10  <planetmaker> !restart
16:37:10  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
16:37:13  <V453000> right
16:37:33  <planetmaker> it's just one copy more :-)
16:38:02  <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
16:38:02  <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r22815.
16:38:06  <PublicServer> Server has exited
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16:38:15  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
16:38:15  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
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16:38:38  <V453000> yeyy
16:38:40  <V453000> !save
16:38:40  <PublicServer> Saving game...
16:38:46  <Patrickov> @quickstart
16:38:47  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
16:38:47  <V453000> !transfer 215 game.sav
16:38:50  <PublicServer> V453000: PublicServerGame_215_Final.sav
16:38:50  <PublicServer> V453000: This game (215) is already archived. (you might use --force)
16:38:55  <V453000> should be there already
16:38:58  <V453000> yes
16:39:15  <V453000> pm how do I force it? just -- force in the end of command?
16:39:16  <Patrickov> No it was the wrong one
16:39:23  <Patrickov> Have to force it
16:39:41  <planetmaker> !transfer 215 game.sav --force
16:39:41  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Usage: /home/openttd/script/transfer.sh [publicserver|prozone] [-f] [-h|u] gamenr save
16:39:48  <V453000> ah
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16:40:02  <V453000> !transfer --force 215 game.sav
16:40:02  <planetmaker> !transfer publicserver -f 215 game.sav
16:40:03  <PublicServer> V453000: PublicServerGame_215_Final.sav
16:40:03  <PublicServer> V453000: Transfer done. (/home/openttd/svn-publicserver/autopilot/save/game.sav->http://www.openttdcoop.org//files/PublicServer_archive/PublicServerGame_215_Final.sav)
16:40:03  <PublicServer> planetmaker: !transfer gamenr save: transfer the save to our web (publicserver)
16:40:25  <V453000> good :)
16:40:58  <V453000> k looks worky
16:41:01  <V453000> !gamenr 216
16:41:01  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has set gamenr to 216 (next !restart)
16:41:04  <V453000> !restart
16:41:04  <PublicServer> V453000: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
16:41:41  <Patrickov> Awww another version?
16:41:47  <V453000> yes
16:41:54  <Patrickov> So is the new version incompatible with the previous PS game
16:42:02  <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
16:42:02  <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r22950.
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16:42:14  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
16:42:14  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
16:42:14  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG216 (r22950) | STAGE: Finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands"
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16:42:22  <V453000> !dl win64
16:42:22  <PublicServer> V453000: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22950/openttd-trunk-r22950-windows-win64.zip
16:44:05  <V453000> !rcon load 2
16:44:07  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
16:44:08  <V453000> @stage MM
16:44:08  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG216 (r22950) | STAGE: MM | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands"
16:44:10  <V453000> !auto
16:44:10  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode.
16:44:11  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
16:44:16  <V453000> gameeee
16:44:21  <V453000> !password
16:44:22  <PublicServer> V453000: confer
16:44:23  <V453000> !rcon server_pw
16:44:23  <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'server_password' is: 'barley'
16:44:25  <V453000> hm
16:44:34  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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16:44:50  <planetmaker> !tweet psg 216 just started. Create your plan now :-)
16:44:51  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Tweet sent: http://twitter.com/openttdcoop
16:45:00  <V453000> pm: why are those passwords different
16:45:05  <planetmaker> which?
16:45:12  <V453000> see what I wrote
16:45:13  <planetmaker> oh, restart does that
16:45:20  <V453000> yeah, but it never did before
16:45:20  <planetmaker> I think
16:45:24  <planetmaker> not?
16:45:25  <V453000> only since the last revision
16:45:26  <Patrickov> !password
16:45:26  <PublicServer> Patrickov: confer
16:45:48  <Patrickov> !password
16:45:48  <PublicServer> Patrickov: confer
16:45:52  <V453000> I *think* pz has this issue for longer time (not entirely sure there)
16:46:04  <Patrickov> Hmmm still wrong
16:46:13  <V453000> Patrickov: read
16:46:49  <Patrickov> !password
16:46:49  <PublicServer> Patrickov: confer
16:46:50  <planetmaker> !password
16:46:50  <PublicServer> planetmaker: confer
16:47:06  <planetmaker> it *will* be right now. I wonder if it will continue to be right
16:47:26  <V453000> ok, thanks, I will report if isnt :p
16:47:31  <V453000> !rcon server_pw
16:47:31  <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'server_password' is: 'confer'
16:47:35  <V453000> sweet :)
16:47:49  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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16:48:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> games starts with a screen of a reversed gec
16:48:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so i guess you have a plan
16:49:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> isnt there always a reversed GEC?
16:49:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> and yes I have a plan but with AL10 :p
16:49:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> this must be 256x256
16:49:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes it is
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16:50:01  <planetmaker> !password
16:50:01  <PublicServer> planetmaker: confer
16:51:50  <planetmaker> !password
16:51:50  <PublicServer> planetmaker: confer
16:52:25  <Dilandau> !dl
16:52:25  <PublicServer> Dilandau: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
16:52:25  <PublicServer> Dilandau: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r22950
16:52:42  <Patrickov> If I click "screenshot" in game, where's the image saved?
16:52:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> documents/openttd
16:53:15  <Patrickov> oh i see thanks
16:53:37  <planetmaker> Patrickov, ctrl+s is faster ;-)
16:53:46  <planetmaker> (and you don't have the screenshot menu present)
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16:54:31  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi
16:54:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi hi
16:54:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
16:54:47  <Leshrac> oh cmon
16:54:50  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Hi all
16:55:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello Patrickov
16:56:42  <Leshrac> !password
16:56:42  <PublicServer> Leshrac: confer
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16:57:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> welcome
16:57:19  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00008B14: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008B14.png
16:57:34  <Patrickov> Is the game style defined?
16:57:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its waiting for your plan
16:58:35  <V453000> @stage Planning
16:58:35  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG216 (r22950) | STAGE: Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands"
16:58:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> not much money yet but meh
16:58:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is enough for plans
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16:59:10  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> so how long do you think this game will last?
16:59:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
16:59:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> who knows?
16:59:26  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> This map is even smaller than 215
16:59:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i go for the most complex plan
16:59:55  <planetmaker> <t> ~= 604800s
17:00:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> counting down from now?
17:00:20  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> a week?
17:00:48  <planetmaker> it's a rough guestimate about the typical length of a game
17:00:55  <planetmaker> Recently it might have gotten longer, dunno
17:01:03  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> well last game lasted 3-4 days tops
17:01:34  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> AL10= ?
17:01:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> train
17:01:44  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> ok
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17:01:57  <planetmaker> Leshrac, that's why I used <t> ;-)
17:02:05  <planetmaker> and not t_min or similar
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17:02:20  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> so short as 2 and long as 10?
17:02:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
17:02:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 2
17:02:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> AL10 is the engine
17:02:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> TL2 means trainlength is 2
17:02:43  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> oh sorry
17:02:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> which is extremely strong and awesome
17:02:55  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> was that the one in 213?
17:02:59  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> i can only find the AM10
17:04:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> SLH everywhere?
17:04:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
17:04:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> everywhere but the spokes
17:04:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> should be obvious
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17:04:55  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> I kinda like this plan
17:05:12  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> tho i will have a hard time building on this map XD
17:05:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it has to be small :)
17:05:36  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> You got some valleys for the ring connectors
17:05:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> and if we dont, we can make our valleys
17:05:50  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Though sidelines will be kind of painful
17:06:40  <TWerkhoven> !records
17:06:43  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
17:06:52  <V453000> @records
17:06:52  <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 26 | Trains: 2553 (PSG#201) - 2522 (PZG#5) - ( 3000 (PSG#180) logic net) | Single cargo type output: 200,169 (PZG#13) | World Pop: 6,150,671 (PSG#201) 
17:06:56  <V453000> !password
17:06:56  <PublicServer> V453000: reaped
17:07:13  <Patrickov> I'm thinking the flow from refinery to town
17:07:23  <Patrickov> Most probably that corner would need LLL
17:07:29  <planetmaker> build pipelines using dwe station tiles ;-)
17:07:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> this map is so small stationwalk :)
17:07:46  <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game
17:07:55  <planetmaker> :-D
17:08:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> pm: nice idea :d
17:08:41  <Patrickov> ??
17:08:59  <Patrickov> Oh I meant the town drop
17:09:37  <PublicServer> *** Leshrac has left the game (leaving)
17:11:10  <Webster> Latest update from blog: More time lapses <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/08/31/more-timelapses/> || Rivers during map generation <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/08/20/rivers-during-map-generation/> || OpenTTD time lapse <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/08/01/openttd-time-lapse/> || Copyright and licenses: permission to … what actually? <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/07/16/copyright-and-licenses-permission-to-what-actually/> || Advanced Building Revue 10: Invisible Hubs <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/06/02/advanced-building-revue-10-invisible-hubs/> || New Member: mfb <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/05/03/new-member-mfb/> || New member: Sylf <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/04/09/new-member-sylf/> || Advanced Building Revue 09: Self Regulating Stations <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/01/21/advanced-building-revue-09-self-regulating-stations/>
17:11:16  <Patrickov> uh-oh...
17:12:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
17:12:12  <Patrickov> Well...
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17:12:21  <Patrickov> What I wanna say was that...
17:12:37  <Patrickov> for this plan the corner of town drop might get enormous traffic
17:12:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> every corner might
17:13:15  <Patrickov> yeah but consider how the refinery and factory trains all go in the town and then out
17:13:37  <Patrickov> while the factory / refinery and ore drop corner maybe getting 1/2 of the town traffic
17:13:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> and the goods are made from nothing? :)
17:14:09  <Patrickov> you mean the primary?
17:14:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
17:14:25  <Patrickov> Do we assume they distribute over the map?
17:14:31  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we just need 2k trains
17:14:45  <Patrickov> so anywhere may get a same portion of primary trains
17:14:49  <planetmaker> primaries usually are uniformly distributed (barring landscape)
17:15:08  <Patrickov> yes that's what I believe
17:15:45  <planetmaker> but the argument was: if refinery, ... should produce, they'll have more trains deliver stuff to them than they actually need to carry away stuff
17:15:56  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> V you build by autotrack? or the 1234 hotkeys?
17:16:00  <planetmaker> they don't produce at a 1:1 ration
17:16:03  <planetmaker> *ratio
17:16:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> 1234
17:17:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> expand it later?
17:17:30  <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined company #1
17:17:34  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Good idea
17:17:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> I doubt 3 lines will be enough anywhere in the plan
17:17:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is not an idea that is how every game is played
17:17:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> or every expandable game
17:18:04  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> only one AL10 for the Engine or 2 ?
17:18:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> which is vast majority
17:18:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> 1
17:18:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is extremely strong
17:18:14  <XeryusTC> damn
17:18:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> instant acceleration
17:18:17  <XeryusTC> planning stage already xD
17:18:26  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> k ;)
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17:21:02  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> BTW does this mean we are going to grow one town (as the drop) and destroy many others?
17:21:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> basically, yes
17:21:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> or destroy ... destroy if it is in the way of something
17:22:43  <aldor> !password
17:22:43  <PublicServer> aldor: jading
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17:23:04  <PublicServer> <aldor> hi
17:23:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> PZ5 looks very good
17:23:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but this with instant acceleration will be a bit better
17:23:39  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> what is PZ5 anyways (sorry that I already have to deal with lots of abb. at work
17:23:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> my thought
17:23:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> pro zone game 5
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17:23:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> one of the most famous games over all
17:24:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and i guess we now will not use shifters :)
17:24:18  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> I gotta study the history of openttdcoop before asking
17:24:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> 05 didnt use shifters either afaik
17:24:38  <XeryusTC> Vinnie_nl: those were multi-to-multi choosers
17:24:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke
17:24:46  <V453000> ^
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17:26:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000! that is a patented XeryusTC plan!®
17:26:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> I also link to it :)
17:26:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, then it's ok :P
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17:28:04  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Well, I am UTC+8 so it's 1.30 here.  Still need to work tomorrow so seeya guys...
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17:29:33  <XeryusTC> gn Patrickov
17:29:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> gn
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19:33:47  <aldor> !password
19:33:47  <PublicServer> aldor: howled
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19:34:32  <PublicServer> <aldor> hi
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19:43:34  <makjes> !dl win64
19:43:34  <PublicServer> makjes: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22950/openttd-trunk-r22950-windows-win64.zip
19:45:30  <LXSJason> !password
19:45:30  <PublicServer> LXSJason: serums
19:45:38  <LXSJason> heya
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19:45:56  <PublicServer> <aldor> hi
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19:49:11  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> LLL all? hrm? no R? so... evrything 1 direction?
19:49:49  <PublicServer> <aldor> no
19:49:59  <PublicServer> <aldor> diff rings - diff fir
19:50:05  <PublicServer> <aldor> dir*
19:50:17  <PublicServer> <aldor> check signals
19:50:31  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> ah yea i see
19:50:45  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> TL2? Oo' thats short...
19:50:56  <PublicServer> <aldor> looks interesting exept TL2
19:51:02  <PublicServer> <aldor> yea
19:51:21  <PublicServer> <aldor> maybe 4 or 6
19:51:28  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> however that means... small CL...
19:51:38  <PublicServer> <aldor> will be more challenging
19:51:38  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> and wed need huge stations to drop stuff
19:51:49  <PublicServer> <makjes> and very simple slh's
19:52:07  <PublicServer> <aldor> y
19:52:13  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> well, only 1 direction... so should be easy on SLH
19:52:55  <PublicServer> <makjes> i like it. :o)
19:53:06  <PublicServer> <aldor> but inner circle is big enough
19:53:28  <PublicServer> <aldor> smth like LLL20RR
19:53:32  <PublicServer> <aldor> RRR
19:53:59  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> and more interesting, ANY TF :D... Boom, everything flat!
19:54:09  <PublicServer> <aldor> )
19:54:43  <PublicServer> <makjes> the plan is completely flat ;)
19:56:35  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> mmmm feeders to transferstations? and from there to the drops...
19:56:45  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> or... everything straight from industry to drop
19:57:29  <PublicServer> <aldor> no one word about transfer, so just guessing
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19:58:27  <PublicServer> <aldor> nice idea to make transfer stations in the middle
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19:58:54  <PublicServer> <aldor> so raw goes center
19:59:05  <PublicServer> <aldor> and then all goes drop
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19:59:20  <PublicServer> <aldor> bb
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20:00:30  <V453000> transfers achieve nothing at all
20:00:31  <V453000> btw
20:00:36  <V453000> it is just moving cargo elsewhere
20:00:47  <V453000> but it doesnt do anything
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20:03:37  <imus> hi
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20:04:04  <LXSJason> tl 2... 1 lock and 3 carts :S
20:05:21  <imus> !password
20:05:21  <PublicServer> imus: robber
20:05:28  <MrD2DG> !password
20:05:28  <PublicServer> MrD2DG: robber
20:05:42  <XeryusTC> welcome
20:05:49  <XeryusTC> erm, wrong channel xD
20:06:01  <MrD2DG> Lol
20:06:14  <imus> hmm, updated to new version?
20:06:17  <imus> !download
20:06:17  <PublicServer> imus: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
20:06:17  <PublicServer> imus: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r22950
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20:06:41  <Godde> !password
20:06:41  <PublicServer> Godde: robber
20:07:14  <Godde> !dl win64
20:07:14  <PublicServer> Godde: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22950/openttd-trunk-r22950-windows-win64.zip
20:07:40  <LXSJason> ottdau ftw! :p
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20:09:46  <imus> server down?
20:10:16  <MrD2DG> !password
20:10:16  <PublicServer> MrD2DG: robber
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20:15:46  <imus> !players
20:16:00  <imus> hmm, is it me or is the server down?
20:17:02  <Dilandau> server down
20:17:51  <imus> :'(
20:19:22  <XeryusTC> PublicServer: is still here
20:19:59  <KenjiE20> @pstest
20:19:59  <Webster> KenjiE20: Server at ps.openttdcoop.org:3979 is up.
20:20:21  <imus> can't get in
20:20:49  <^Spike^> ....
20:20:54  <KenjiE20> version > grf > pwd
20:21:07  <imus> that's what i did
20:21:19  <imus> and then it says connection lost at step 4/6 going into the game
20:21:22  <V453000> I dont see the server either
20:21:47  <imus> anyone here that knows how to fix it?
20:22:07  <Leshrac> reboot pc?
20:22:07  <^Spike^> strange thing it console says it's up
20:22:29  <Leshrac> depending on the time it has been running, that could be the problem
20:22:47  <Leshrac> i know my PC starts to behave weird after being on for 3-400 hours
20:23:01  <^Spike^> 1700 days i still got 5 servers running perfectly
20:23:03  <imus> my laptop is on for about half an hour
20:23:16  <Leshrac> i reckon your servers run Linux?
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20:23:42  <KenjiE20> no, it runs Be/OS :p
20:23:44  <^Spike^> we prefer Symbian but they don't allow it
20:24:57  <Leshrac> well my pc does run windows
20:25:14  <Leshrac> which, even if it is not noticable to the normal user, still has minor memory leaks and stuff
20:25:25  <Leshrac> which become apparent after 3-400 hours
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20:25:56  <Leshrac> like windows using 80% of my 4 gb of ram
20:27:03  <imus> :p
20:27:14  <imus> what version of windows are you using?
20:27:44  <Leshrac> win7 x64
20:27:50  <imus> hmm
20:27:56  <imus> same but not too much problems
20:28:02  *** ^Spike^ sets mode: +m 
20:28:06  <^Spike^> tumtidum
20:28:10  <^Spike^> just wait for PS to start
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20:28:51  <Leshrac> imus, what is the longest time that your laptop has been on?
20:29:17  <imus> coutning really on : about 6 hours or so
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20:29:28  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
20:29:28  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
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20:29:37  <Leshrac> my pc has been running for 107 hours now
20:29:40  <imus> counting sluimer (don't know english sorry) it's about 2 months
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20:29:48  <Leshrac> at 6 hours you wont notice a thing
20:29:57  <Leshrac> problems start mostly after 250+
20:29:59  <XeryusTC> imus: sluimer = hibernate
20:30:03  <imus> ah :)
20:30:12  <XeryusTC> Leshrac: only 107 hours?
20:30:21  <^Spike^> Leshrac you can't say that without knowing how the computer is setup and what is running on it
20:30:24  <KenjiE20> ^ was about to say the same
20:30:38  <Leshrac> yes only 107 hours
20:30:44  <Leshrac> had to install updates ><
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20:31:25  <^Spike^> 49 days.. 168 days.... as said 1700+ days somewhere
20:31:41  <Leshrac> I am refering to windows ofcourse
20:31:45  <imus> well i'm using my laptop to go to school so i'm not leaving it on when i'm moving :p
20:32:07  <imus> some programs do leak a lot of memory
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20:32:31  <imus> !password
20:32:31  <PublicServer> imus: numbed
20:32:42  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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20:32:48  <PublicServer> <imus> yay got in
20:32:58  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> thats hard to do?
20:33:15  <Leshrac> when i was still running a Ubuntu/WinXp dualboot, i never had any problems with linux being on for a week or 2
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20:33:26  <KenjiE20> you timed it right kangoo, server just had to be restarted
20:33:39  <^Spike^> is this the correct save?
20:33:46  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> ah - I was wondering why, for once lately, there was noone else her
20:33:48  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> e
20:33:50  <Leshrac> Maybe room temperature, but yeah 25 or 30 degrees dont matter much :P
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20:34:22  <^Spike^> if you guys don't answer i assume it's the correct save
20:34:27  <KenjiE20> I've never had issues running windows for extended preiods of time
20:34:38  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> Im here, but I dont know whats correct or not
20:34:43  <KenjiE20> by extended I'm talking months
20:34:51  <^Spike^> windows can run that easily
20:34:53  <PublicServer> <imus> first time i got in so no idea
20:35:01  * ^Spike^ kicks V453000
20:35:03  <^Spike^> !date
20:35:03  <PublicServer> ^Spike^:  2 May 2007
20:35:06  <^Spike^> !companies
20:35:08  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Company 1 (Orange): Baker & Co.
20:35:21  <^Spike^> correct save... ya.. oder... nee?
20:35:30  <V453000> wat
20:35:34  <Leshrac> company seems correct
20:35:35  <V453000> !info
20:35:35  <PublicServer> V453000: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Baker & Co.'  Year Founded: 2000  Money: 1913071  Loan: 0  Value: 2050546  (T:1, R:0, P:4, S:0) unprotected
20:35:45  <XeryusTC> KenjiE20: if you dont do too weird things on windows it can run for months indeed
20:35:46  <V453000> guys what plan is there
20:35:48  <V453000> !screen
20:35:48  <PublicServer> *** V453000 liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00003FC9.png)
20:35:53  <KenjiE20> quite
20:35:56  <XeryusTC> but main heavy desktop usage it cant handle
20:35:57  <V453000> correct
20:36:02  <^Spike^> oki
20:36:09  <XeryusTC> because its memory management is completely fubar
20:36:09  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> Vs plan only
20:36:31  <^Spike^> XeryusTC i tend to not speak about memory management...
20:36:35  * ^Spike^ points to haydn... :)
20:36:44  <KenjiE20> shhh
20:36:46  <KenjiE20> :P
20:36:55  <XeryusTC> pfft, you're the sysadmin, go fix it :P
20:37:11  <^Spike^> i prefer to wait 4 more days before saying what Ammler said last time and didn't seem to be :D
20:37:20  <Leshrac> well, in my opinion, i kept refering to the problems i am experiencing as memory probs
20:37:41  <^Spike^> did you check mem usage did you check apps that you was running that wasn't any other thing
20:37:50  <^Spike^> it's easy to point at mem while it might not be at all
20:38:26  <XeryusTC> also, uTorrent 3.0 has a hidden memory leak :(
20:38:30  <Leshrac> yeah i checked if nothing was running in the background which shouldnt be running
20:38:42  <XeryusTC> hidden as it does not get reported as being part of uTorrent by taskman :(
20:38:48  <Leshrac> procexp is my friend :P
20:38:49  <^Spike^> i rarely run utorrent anyway
20:39:01  <KenjiE20> utorrent is a bit rubbish
20:39:03  * ^Spike^ uses net mostly ;)
20:39:06  <imus> try vuze?
20:39:11  <KenjiE20> vuze was worse
20:39:13  <XeryusTC> vuze :|
20:39:14  <imus> really?
20:39:20  <KenjiE20> teh horrible
20:39:23  <KenjiE20> and bloated
20:39:25  <imus> I haven't seeen problems with vuze yet
20:39:27  * ^Spike^ thinks about using transmission on NAS
20:39:28  <XeryusTC> talking about memory polution
20:39:32  <imus> :p
20:39:34  <^Spike^> problem 1 with vuze
20:39:35  <^Spike^> It's JAVA!
20:39:43  <KenjiE20> hehe
20:39:44  <imus> don't like java?
20:39:44  <^Spike^> if i remember correctly
20:39:49  <^Spike^> java is memory hog
20:39:54  <KenjiE20> azerous was java ye
20:40:02  <imus> vuze = new azareus
20:40:08  <imus> and yes it's java
20:40:08  <Leshrac> i can describe java's memory management in 3 words
20:40:11  <Leshrac> Nom nom nom!
20:40:12  <XeryusTC> azereus was also crap
20:40:15  <KenjiE20> I know, that's why I said that
20:40:21  <KenjiE20> XeryusTC: truth
20:40:45  <XeryusTC> utorrent used to be nice, but it got all a bit weird with 3.0
20:41:06  <^Spike^> well java can be nice if you use the proper commands for starting up and use proper classes
20:41:25  <KenjiE20> lots of silly dev swapping between uT and BT official
20:41:30  <imus> agreed on java hogging memory if programmed wrong
20:42:12  <imus> and no idea if vuze is programmed wrong or not :p
20:42:24  <KenjiE20> I wouldn't bet against it
20:42:40  <imus> but i haven't seen memory problems exept for alocating full memory when downloading something
20:42:41  <XeryusTC> anything serious with java eats memory like a fat chick who just discovered a new burger at mcDonalds
20:42:51  <KenjiE20> XD
20:43:07  <XeryusTC> alocating full memory when downloading something <- that counts as rm -rf :P
20:43:08  <Leshrac> Like i said: Nom nom nom!
20:43:39  <XeryusTC> at least utorrent has the decensy to do it slowly with torrents >15GB
20:43:46  <KenjiE20> :)
20:44:04  <pugi> uuh, finally a new game
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20:44:48  <imus> omg why? :(
20:45:13  <imus> !password
20:45:13  <PublicServer> imus: dogmas
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20:45:53  <PublicServer> <imus> so many hills
20:46:03  <PublicServer> <pugi> damn, you already have tl2 :D
20:46:17  <PublicServer> <pugi> then i won't do my tl1 plan here
20:46:35  <PublicServer> <imus> tl 1 sucks :p
20:46:38  <PublicServer> <imus> so ineficient XD
20:46:41  <PublicServer> <pugi> all my plans suck :P
20:46:55  <PublicServer> <imus> if you say so :p
20:47:04  <KenjiE20> heh, that TL1 game on PZ was fun
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20:47:29  <PublicServer> <imus> fun to not look at CL though
20:47:43  <PublicServer> <pugi> that's why i wanted to do a TL1 plan sometimes
20:49:37  <PublicServer> <imus> what is the CL on TL 2?
20:49:55  <pugi> probably 2
20:49:59  <pugi> depends on the speed
20:50:05  <pugi> of the train
20:50:13  <PublicServer> <pugi> oh, it's already 2008
20:50:39  * KenjiE20 checks his watch
20:51:16  <imus> i believe you're off 3 years :p
20:51:24  <PublicServer> <pugi> ingame :D
20:51:38  <PublicServer> <imus> ahw, only pax maglev :(
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20:55:40  <PublicServer> <pugi> what is with these weird city names? :D
20:55:49  <Maraxus> !password
20:55:49  <PublicServer> Maraxus: dogmas
20:56:00  <PublicServer> <imus> didn't notice the newGRF?
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20:56:08  <PublicServer> <pugi> probabaly not
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21:02:58  <PublicServer> <imus> ahw, can't find a train TL2 that has CL 1 and can climb a mountain full speed :(
21:08:46  <PublicServer> *** imus has left the game (connection lost)
21:10:11  <imus> :(
21:10:14  <imus> server doesn't like me
21:11:05  <pugi> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYDrwujtV2A :D
21:11:06  <Webster> Title: DragonCon 2011 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
21:11:32  <KenjiE20> or your net, or your CPU
21:11:36  <KenjiE20> or your net route
21:11:39  <KenjiE20> or ..... etc etc
21:12:37  <imus> looks like internet here does not like me
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22:16:30  <theos> !win64
22:19:04  <theos> cmd to link to r22950 ? :(
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22:22:47  <theos> !password
22:22:47  <PublicServer> theos: baggie
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23:13:02  <V453000> !password
23:13:02  <PublicServer> V453000: baggie
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23:56:01  <PublicServer> LoPo: baggie
23:56:03  <LoPo> hello

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