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Log for #openttdcoop on 23rd September 2011:
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00:00:21  <PublicServer> <Theos> hi
00:00:29  <PublicServer> <Theos> in and out...
00:01:19  <LoPo> hmmm
00:01:25  <LoPo> i see there is a new version :S
00:01:48  <PublicServer> <Theos> transparency tells building types... kinda cool
00:01:55  <LoPo>  r22951
00:02:02  <LoPo> but where do i get  r22950? :S
00:02:19  <theos> i asked the same q an hour ago lol
00:02:21  <theos> os?
00:03:09  <theos> ehh you choose http://us.binaries.openttd.org/binaries/nightlies/trunk/r22950/index.html
00:03:40  <LoPo> ah thx man
00:04:16  <LoPo> !password
00:04:16  <PublicServer> LoPo: baggie
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00:04:47  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah ! :)
00:06:13  <PublicServer> <Theos> its amazing how big these 256x maps used to be back when
00:06:27  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah :P
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00:26:07  <theos> join up for a sec :o?
00:28:50  <XeryusTC> !dl
00:28:50  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
00:28:50  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r22950
00:29:11  <XeryusTC> theos & LoPo :P
00:29:26  <LoPo> ? :P
00:29:34  <theos> !dl win64
00:29:35  <PublicServer> theos: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22950/openttd-trunk-r22950-windows-win64.zip
00:29:37  <theos> woooooo!
00:29:38  <LoPo> i already have :)
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00:29:50  <LoPo> it
00:30:05  <theos> webster said !dl was unkown :(
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01:28:32  <Patrickov> Hi, anybody here?
01:28:44  <PublicServer> <Theos> o/
01:29:49  <Patrickov> Should have known there are few, most of you must be sleeping...
01:30:24  <theos> gmt+5 :)
01:30:31  <theos> -5 even. sheesh
02:05:59  <Patrickov> I am +8, so I am in the morning of tomorrow
02:06:15  <Patrickov> tomorrow to you, that is
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02:26:42  <Patrickov> Is the game in planning stage or voting stage?  I am at work so I can't open the game now
02:56:21  <theos> mm but people are building plans
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05:50:32  <Patrickov> !password
05:50:32  <PublicServer> Patrickov: hatted
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06:37:25  <LXSJason> !password
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07:24:50  <Leshrac_At_Internship> morning
07:25:24  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Guildwars 2 is looking so epic
07:25:37  <Leshrac_At_Internship> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfE_Xu9H1Bw
07:25:38  <Webster> Title: Eurogamer Expo Coverage : Guild Wars 2 - High Level Sylvari Necromancer Gameplay Part 1 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
07:25:48  <Leshrac_At_Internship> video by TotalBiscuit
07:26:18  <Tray> !password
07:26:19  <PublicServer> Tray: hatted
07:26:43  <Tray> woah, after three games a new version (:
07:26:45  <Tray> !dl win32
07:26:45  <PublicServer> Tray: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22950/openttd-trunk-r22950-windows-win32.zip
07:27:28  <Patrickov> Afternoon here, good day to you all
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07:30:08  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Btw i want your opinion. What has better graphics: random next-gen console X or High end gaming PC Y?
07:30:27  <Tray> Y
07:34:23  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Current high end gaming pc's have 900% more graphical calculation power as the current consoles :P
07:35:12  <Leshrac_At_Internship> http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/09/22/nvidia-say-pc-super-awesome-best-by-2014/
07:35:13  <Webster> Title: Nvidia Say PC Super Awesome, Best By 2014 | Rock, Paper, Shotgun (at www.rockpapershotgun.com)
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07:40:38  <Leshrac_At_Internship> So any more plans done already?
07:40:46  <Leshrac_At_Internship> so far only saw V453000's plan
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07:44:46  <imus> !password
07:44:46  <PublicServer> imus: hatted
07:44:54  <imus> !players
07:44:57  <PublicServer> imus: Client 161 (Orange) is Tray, in company 1 (Baker & Co.)
07:45:10  <pugi> there is nothing wrong with V's plan :)
07:45:12  <pugi> looks great
07:45:18  <pugi> so why do we need any more? :D
07:45:38  <imus> so that someone else can have a plan
07:45:44  <imus> that has nothing wrong
07:45:47  <pugi> :P
07:45:47  <imus> and we all can vote for V's plan
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07:47:07  <Leshrac_At_Internship> didnt say anything that V's plan was wrong. Just curious if there is anotherr plan :P
07:47:21  <PublicServer> <imus> LoPo has one
07:47:35  <PublicServer> <imus> theos is working on one
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08:13:00  <V453000> !password
08:13:00  <PublicServer> V453000: tutors
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08:13:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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08:13:11  <PublicServer> <Tray> hi
08:13:42  <Leshrac_At_Internship> heya V
08:14:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> LOL LoPo suggests 2x AL10
08:14:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> xD
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08:15:34  <PublicServer> <Tray> I don't find the AL 10
08:15:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> comes out in ~2018
08:15:46  <PublicServer> <Tray> oh
08:15:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> 160kmh, 10k hp, 500kN
08:16:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> -> instant acceleration
08:16:12  <PublicServer> <Tray> one tile?
08:16:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
08:16:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> like 3
08:16:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> but still
08:16:27  <Leshrac_At_Internship> railtype, length of engine?
08:16:30  <PublicServer> <Tray> no I mean how long the train is
08:16:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> halftile
08:16:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> standard train
08:16:52  <PublicServer> <Tray> I change mine (:
08:17:08  <Leshrac_At_Internship> what kind of track is it?
08:17:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> and when it is in TL3 1x, it packs the line so heavily that you ned double the normal density of signals on diagonals
08:17:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> rail ofc
08:17:47  <PublicServer> <Tray> hrm I may prefer a faster one
08:17:54  <Leshrac_At_Internship> so Cl2?
08:17:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2xgec is nice too
08:18:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> CL3 unless you have 2 tile trains
08:18:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> CL3 = 160kmh
08:18:42  <Leshrac_At_Internship> well wasnt TL in your plan 2? :P
08:18:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, in my plan it is CL2
08:19:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> but generally speaking, it is 3
08:19:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> unless you have trains long 2. :)
08:19:41  <Leshrac_At_Internship> damn they play a lot of good music today on the radio
08:20:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> uhm Tray how do you want to achieve that you transport 1 type of cargo on one ML and some other cargo on other ML
08:20:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> isnt that like separate networks already?
08:20:24  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Queen - The show must go on; Genesis - Jesus he knows me; Metallica - Enter Sandman; Limp Bizkit - Nookie
08:20:35  <PublicServer> <Tray> oh hrm
08:21:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you suggest no solution, trains will most likely choose one direction
08:21:24  <PublicServer> <Tray> well kill that (:
08:21:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> but you can make a flipflop to make them equal
08:21:36  <Leshrac_At_Internship> And also McHammer - Can't touch this!
08:21:38  <imus> !password
08:21:38  <PublicServer> imus: bribes
08:21:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> for goods trains of course
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08:22:06  <PublicServer> <Tray> logic is nice but waypoints are easier
08:22:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes but waypoints dont work as well
08:22:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> and if trains jam on one part, trains can tend to wave
08:22:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> which is something you defintitely dont want
08:23:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> so in general logic is for this case better, but for example in the last refit game we used waypoints because the flipflops would take too much space and would get too complicated there
08:23:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you suggest logic from the start, it is easy to fit it in
08:23:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> and many people here are able to build a flipflop
08:24:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> but do what you want of course, it is your plan :) just saying
08:24:42  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Lets build a 32 bit ALU!
08:25:01  <PublicServer> <Tray> I like your logic magic (: maybe it would be nice
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08:31:09  <Leshrac_At_Internship> the person who made that plan wrote People wrong XD
08:32:59  <planetmaker> and you didn't fix that!
08:33:54  <Leshrac_At_Internship> i saw it on a screenshot
08:33:58  <Leshrac_At_Internship> read my nick
08:34:03  <Leshrac_At_Internship> like i can play TTD now
08:35:21  <V453000> hm :)
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08:54:37  <ziza> heya :)
08:54:42  <V453000> hello
08:55:26  <ziza> !password
08:55:26  <PublicServer> ziza: dented
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08:59:45  <LXSJason> sure you can :D your on IRC aint you? :p
08:59:51  <LXSJason> then OTTD should be capable aswell
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09:01:51  <LXSJason> i need to learn how to build a flipflop :p
09:02:37  <V453000> @ABR02
09:02:38  <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 02: Splits at #openttdcoop - http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/03/25/advanced-building-revue-02-splits/
09:02:42  <V453000> ^
09:02:44  <V453000> simple as that
09:03:31  <LXSJason> awesome :D
09:04:47  <LXSJason> *rofl* the text is awesome! "WTFBBQ"
09:05:37  <V453000> mhm :)
09:06:03  <Leshrac_At_Internship> LXSJason, A correctly configured IRC looks like Notepad++ with alot of text in it
09:06:16  <Leshrac_At_Internship> i doubt i can make OTTD look like a text editor
09:07:20  <planetmaker> you can. As dedicated server ;-)
09:07:57  <Leshrac_At_Internship> and how will that make me able to change signs and play and stuff?
09:08:00  <LXSJason> Programmers notepad ftw!, lol
09:08:25  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Ahem, my major is Computer Science, so yes i use a programmers notepad
09:11:33  <Terkhen> if you want to play, stay away from OpenTTD code... otherwise your knowledge will make sure that you can't play for long without thinking about something to code :P
09:12:29  <Leshrac_At_Internship> have you seen the source of OTTD?
09:13:17  <Leshrac_At_Internship> it is about 3.8k files
09:13:42  <V453000> I think he did :p
09:13:59  <Terkhen> :P
09:14:18  <planetmaker> looool :-)
09:14:19  <Leshrac_At_Internship> it will take a few days/weeks before i can even start to think about something to code for OTTD :P
09:14:29  <planetmaker> you made my day, Leshrac_At_Internship :-)
09:14:53  <Terkhen> yes, just enjoy the game first :)
09:15:00  <Leshrac_At_Internship> i wish i could make mine better
09:15:08  <Leshrac_At_Internship> i have a terrible headache ><
09:15:39  <LXSJason> wanna bet mine is worse? :p
09:15:44  <planetmaker> Terkhen: indeed stated one of the problems with developing... once you started you start to see things to change or improve everywhere...
09:17:16  <Leshrac_At_Internship> true, but ill leave OTTD to the devs
09:17:40  <Leshrac_At_Internship> it is a pain in the ass to read up on 2-3k code files
09:17:47  <planetmaker> well... 'devs' is also just people who started to hack away ... and became carried away ;-)
09:18:02  <planetmaker> and... you hardly need to read all files of the source
09:18:11  <Terkhen> ^ that's the reason of my warning :P
09:18:15  <planetmaker> you can make useful changes by reading maybe 10, 20.
09:18:24  <Terkhen> let the guy play, planetmaker :P
09:18:29  <planetmaker> :-D
09:18:36  <V453000> Terkhen: playing with us isnt too "safe" either :P
09:19:39  <Terkhen> well, if he's playing here already there is nothing that can be done regarding that kind of madness :P
09:19:50  <V453000> :P
09:21:48  <V453000> anyway, I will be going ... later
09:21:59  <Leshrac_At_Internship> my mind is already made of chaos. My friends already think me insane for being behing a pc for about 12-16 hours a day :P
09:22:23  <Leshrac_At_Internship> So i am a lost cause, if you would ask the general population of the world
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09:37:53  <imus> anything happening?
09:41:54  <Leshrac_At_Internship> I am trying to work with a very bad headache
09:42:10  <Leshrac_At_Internship> It isnt turning out to be very productive
09:42:25  <planetmaker> mainly due to parallel IRC chats? ;-)
09:43:02  <Leshrac_At_Internship> I cant think that well when i have a head ache
09:43:28  <Leshrac_At_Internship> I am atm designing the serial communication between the PC and the Master node for my project
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09:51:03  <Leshrac_At_Internship> So you guys also play something else besides OTTD?
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10:38:38  <Dilandau> hello
10:38:40  <Dilandau> !password
10:38:40  <PublicServer> Dilandau: codded
10:38:45  <Dilandau> !players
10:38:47  <PublicServer> Dilandau: Client 194 is ZiZa, a spectator
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11:05:30  <LoPo> !password
11:05:30  <PublicServer> LoPo: codded
11:05:39  <LoPo> hello guys :")
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11:09:21  <Leshrac_At_Internship> heya LoPo
11:09:27  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hey :)
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11:10:41  <Absolutis> !password
11:10:41  <PublicServer> Absolutis: codded
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11:11:33  <LoPo> hmmm :)
11:11:38  <LoPo> ill come back later
11:11:53  <Leshrac_At_Internship> hehe
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11:17:06  <Maraxus> @gap 2
11:17:06  <Webster> Maraxus: For Trainlength of 2: <= 8 needs 2, 9 - 12 needs 3, 13 - 16 needs 4.
11:17:21  <Ammler> !url
11:17:21  <PublicServer> Ammler: http://ps.openttdcoop.org
11:21:07  <Maraxus> @gap 3
11:21:07  <Webster> Maraxus: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4.
11:21:27  <Ammler> !help
11:21:27  <PublicServer> Ammler: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
11:23:45  <Maraxus> @gap 4
11:23:45  <Webster> Maraxus: For Trainlength of 4: <= 10 needs 2, 11 - 16 needs 3, 17 - 22 needs 4.
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11:24:20  <Maraxus> @@gap
11:25:26  <PublicServer> ^ekipS^: you must be channel op to use genkey
11:25:50  <Maraxus> @gap 5
11:25:50  <Webster> Maraxus: For Trainlength of 5: <= 11 needs 2, 12 - 18 needs 3, 19 - 25 needs 4.
11:26:59  <Maraxus> @gap 6
11:26:59  <Webster> Maraxus: For Trainlength of 6: <= 12 needs 2, 13 - 20 needs 3, 21 - 28 needs 4.
11:29:07  <Maraxus> !password
11:29:07  <PublicServer> Maraxus: codded
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11:33:14  <aldor> !password
11:33:14  <PublicServer> aldor: givens
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11:33:39  <PublicServer> <aldor> hi
11:33:42  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
11:34:03  <PublicServer> <aldor> cool plan from tray)
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11:39:08  <LoPo> @gab 3
11:39:13  <LoPo> @gap 3
11:39:13  <Webster> LoPo: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4.
11:39:51  <Maraxus> @gap 2 22
11:39:51  <Webster> Maraxus: For Trainlength of 2: 81 - 84 needs 21, 85 - 88 needs 22, 89 - 92 needs 23.
11:39:56  <Absolutis> !password
11:39:56  <PublicServer> Absolutis: givens
11:40:22  <Maraxus> @gap 2 6
11:40:22  <Webster> Maraxus: For Trainlength of 2: 17 - 20 needs 5, 21 - 24 needs 6, 25 - 28 needs 7.
11:40:51  <Absolutis> !dl win32
11:40:52  <PublicServer> Absolutis: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22950/openttd-trunk-r22950-windows-win32.zip
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11:57:54  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> was the direction of Aberffraw north?
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11:58:27  <roysvork> !dl win64
11:58:27  <PublicServer> roysvork: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22950/openttd-trunk-r22950-windows-win64.zip
11:59:40  <roysvork> !password
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12:20:12  <imus> hi
12:20:20  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hi
12:20:22  <PublicServer> <aldor> hi
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12:24:17  <imus> anny new plans?
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12:26:33  <PublicServer> <aldor> ???
12:27:56  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> five plans total atm
12:28:24  <PublicServer> <aldor> look sign disaster
12:28:35  <PublicServer> <aldor> i don't get it
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12:29:20  <PublicServer> <aldor> smb burrow all the money?
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12:30:54  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> construction costs at 5.6 mil this year...
12:31:04  <PublicServer> <aldor> look sign disaster
12:31:34  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> nod - why would someone do that?
12:31:45  <PublicServer> <aldor> imho retards
12:32:05  <PublicServer> <aldor> the main problem of public games
12:32:20  <PublicServer> <aldor> ffa public games*
12:33:09  <V453000> wat?
12:33:12  <PublicServer> <aldor> i don't get why admins can't just cheat money instead of MM
12:33:18  <PublicServer> <aldor> look sign disaster
12:33:42  <V453000> wtf
12:33:46  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> we just had someone use 5.6 million on construction
12:33:57  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> we have logs?
12:34:07  <PublicServer> <aldor> looks like just blow an ocean
12:34:17  <PublicServer> <aldor> y
12:34:46  <V453000> anyone going to put himfself in or do we need to do it the hard way?
12:35:13  <PublicServer> <aldor> ?
12:35:38  <V453000> I am asking who was it
12:35:42  <V453000> !players
12:35:44  <PublicServer> V453000: Client 230 is Maraxus, a spectator
12:35:44  <PublicServer> V453000: Client 194 is ZiZa, a spectator
12:35:44  <PublicServer> V453000: Client 233 is aldor, a spectator
12:35:44  <PublicServer> V453000: Client 239 is Absolutis, a spectator
12:35:50  <PublicServer> <aldor> i don't know
12:36:20  <PublicServer> <aldor> two guys quit just after it
12:36:54  <PublicServer> <ZiZa> uhhmm... what happend?
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12:37:08  <PublicServer> <aldor> sign disaster
12:37:34  <V453000> k somebody has a problem here
12:38:17  <pugi> hello there
12:38:31  <PublicServer> <aldor> hi
12:38:33  <V453000> hi
12:38:59  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
12:39:25  <Leshrac_At_Internship> wasnt me, but why would you do that?
12:40:31  <V453000> it was Tray
12:40:39  <V453000> I assume he wanted to make a plan on water
12:40:47  <pugi> !password
12:40:47  <PublicServer> pugi: fleecy
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12:41:03  <V453000> but the fact that hecant say shit is rather worse
12:41:10  <PublicServer> <aldor> hmmm and why blow it then?
12:41:33  <PublicServer> <pugi> suddenly we have 5 plans :O
12:42:00  <PublicServer> <aldor> V can we just cheat money instead?
12:42:15  <PublicServer> <pugi> wow, no money :D
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12:43:18  <PublicServer> <aldor> i suspect noobs for blowing water coz it's usual style)
12:44:15  <planetmaker> very bad style by Tray
12:44:43  <planetmaker> And he left without saying a word...
12:44:58  <PublicServer> <aldor> are u sure it was him?
12:45:00  <planetmaker> It might rarely happen accidentially. But the last word has not been spoken
12:45:05  <planetmaker> yes, we are 100% sure
12:45:12  <PublicServer> <aldor> ah ok
12:45:13  <planetmaker> we can prove it ;-)
12:45:33  <Leshrac_At_Internship> well the person who did it didnt say a signle thing, that is sort of bad behaviour in my eyes
12:45:36  <planetmaker> we have command logs for this very purpose
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12:45:58  <planetmaker> [2011-09-23 14:23:32]                   CmdClearArea             Tray  date:2017-11-26  tile:0000F152  p1:0000FD65 p2:00000000 text: price:1986680
12:46:01  <planetmaker> ^ like that
12:46:12  <planetmaker> clear enough ;-)
12:46:16  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Everyone can make a mistake, but if you f*** something up and just leave without saying anything, you are doing something wrong
12:46:19  <PublicServer> <aldor> it's quite clear)
12:46:34  <Leshrac_At_Internship> ow gawd, you know exactly what i am doing on the server?
12:46:42  <planetmaker> Leshrac_At_Internship: exactly
12:46:51  <planetmaker> especially as he's not around for the first time...
12:46:54  * Leshrac_At_Internship needs to hide his tracks better
12:47:21  <planetmaker> Leshrac_At_Internship: yes and no. We could check. But it's more trouble than it's worth
12:47:42  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Only trying to make a joke here planetmaker
12:47:49  <planetmaker> you saw the line verbatim...
12:47:52  <^Spike^> pm then we should either automate that stuff more... or... ;)
12:48:03  <planetmaker> we once had a patch where we indeed could follow a person tile by tile
12:48:06  <^Spike^> we need to find someone that is bored enough to watch logs 24/7 :D
12:48:08  <PublicServer> <aldor> hmm
12:48:11  <planetmaker> It was hilarious - and totally useless
12:48:39  <Leshrac_At_Internship> well as long as no problems arise, it isnt needed to watch the logs
12:48:40  <planetmaker> like follow online with my own client looking where <whoever> built
12:48:47  <planetmaker> exactly
12:49:00  <planetmaker> It was the first time in months I looked at them
12:49:39  <planetmaker> ^Spike^: we might give an announcement if someone clears large areas of spends more than x€€ in a single step or time interval. Could certainly be scripted
12:49:51  <planetmaker> And then have Webster kick that person automatically :-P
12:50:00  <^Spike^> ehm.... :)
12:50:03  <PublicServer> <aldor> for what?
12:50:06  <Leshrac_At_Internship> these logs, are they put into a SQL server or a txt file?
12:50:12  <^Spike^> txt
12:50:13  <planetmaker> plain text
12:50:19  <^Spike^> sql would be waste of space on db server
12:50:32  <Leshrac_At_Internship> should be relatively easy to spot that kind of stuff then
12:50:32  <^Spike^> unless i got other opinions now
12:50:34  <^Spike^> but i think it is
12:50:36  <PublicServer> <aldor> and what if i want to build over water?
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12:51:04  <PublicServer> <aldor> and rise it a bit
12:51:04  <planetmaker> not worth a DB. We can grep a txt file. And we don't need it really after a game is finished
12:51:14  <^Spike^> what he said
12:51:19  <planetmaker> aldor: of course you may :-)
12:51:24  <planetmaker> this automatism was rather a joke ;-)
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12:51:35  <PublicServer> <aldor> and being kicked?)
12:51:35  <Leshrac_At_Internship> didnt say a SQL would be better or not, just thinkuing about the script :P
12:51:42  <planetmaker> as it would fail on the times where it is sensible to TF water
12:51:54  <planetmaker> hm... where's your nick in IRC, aldor?
12:52:05  <PublicServer> <aldor> hmmm
12:52:06  <planetmaker> we like to have them match up :-)
12:52:12  <^Spike^> ehm... pm you can make a mechanism that warns us instead of just doing kicking :)
12:52:18  <planetmaker> ^Spike^: yes
12:52:22  <^Spike^> gives it the human verification factor part :)
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12:52:32  <PublicServer> <aldor> ok now?
12:52:36  <Leshrac_At_Internship> just read the txt file and let it spam a message into IRC when over X amount?
12:52:37  <planetmaker> yep. thanks
12:52:41  <PublicServer> <aldor> sorry
12:52:47  <planetmaker> please stay in the channel when you play on this server. It's alright
12:52:53  <PublicServer> <aldor> cliens stops sometime
12:52:58  <planetmaker> shit happens
12:53:07  <PublicServer> <aldor> i can't get why
12:53:18  <planetmaker> try a different client ;-)
12:53:22  <PublicServer> <aldor> it stops reseving messages
12:53:40  <PublicServer> <aldor> and so u recommend?
12:53:40  <Leshrac_At_Internship> hmm, his client doesnt even support a ctcp clientinfo
12:53:49  <PublicServer> <aldor> what clien u recommend?*
12:54:01  <Leshrac_At_Internship> mIRC with NNscript, or HydraIRC
12:54:06  <planetmaker> depends on the OS you use. On linux I use xchat. On OSX I use limechat
12:54:13  <PublicServer> <aldor> WInXP
12:54:24  <Leshrac_At_Internship> on linux i could also recommend Konversation
12:54:27  <Absolutis> i use webbased client
12:54:36  <Leshrac_At_Internship> ieuw webbased ><
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12:54:47  <PublicServer> <aldor> ok
12:54:48  <Absolutis> but hydrairc is pretty good too
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12:54:53  <LoPo> hello
12:55:19  <Leshrac_At_Internship> Yeah, at my internship I use HydraIRC due to it being easily configured to being portable
12:55:30  <Leshrac_At_Internship> at home i am using mIRC with NNscript
12:55:33  <PublicServer> <aldor> hi
12:56:00  <PublicServer> <aldor> ok i'll try mirc later)
12:56:03  <Leshrac_At_Internship> heya LoPo
12:56:28  <Leshrac_At_Internship> with mIRC even after the 30 day evaluation you can still use it
12:56:29  <planetmaker> and you left again, aldor ;-)
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12:56:48  <Leshrac_At_Internship> mine is bitching about me using it for 450+ days ><
12:56:51  <PublicServer> <aldor> )))
12:57:20  <^Spike^> or you just reset the timestamp of first install/start
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12:57:31  <Leshrac_At_Internship> or i just dont care :P
12:57:34  <^Spike^> then if just keeps saying <30 days each time
12:57:39  <^Spike^> until it keeps saying exit each time
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12:57:51  <planetmaker> :-O
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12:58:02  <planetmaker> closed wrong browser window? ;-)
12:58:10  <Leshrac_At_Internship> if it really starts bitching i just reinstall it, solves it also
12:58:12  <aldor> no)
12:58:35  <aldor> it just become in wrong place
12:58:44  <aldor> not fullscreen
12:59:06  <Absolutis> BTW, i think we have enough plans, Voting?
12:59:34  <PublicServer> <aldor> and what about Tray?
12:59:38  <PublicServer> <aldor> he has a plan)
12:59:57  <^Spike^> and what's the problem with that
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13:00:12  <PublicServer> <aldor> i guess he's banned, not?
13:00:33  <^Spike^> i didn't take that decision so i'm not saying anything about that...
13:00:39  <PublicServer> <pugi> hmm... sadly i only like V's plan... again :D
13:00:39  <Leshrac_At_Internship> i would give him a change to explain, IF he dares to come back
13:01:48  <planetmaker> Tray is not banned. But actually simply for the reason that we kind of know him
13:01:54  <planetmaker> and expected better of him
13:01:58  <PublicServer> <aldor> and one more contra - he has a plan ready, so no need to build on water for another plan
13:02:09  <Leshrac_At_Internship> i am gonna vote V anyways, regardless of the other plans
13:02:14  <planetmaker> we will have a word with him when he returns
13:02:20  <Leshrac_At_Internship> as i myself was thinking about such a plan too :P
13:02:43  <Leshrac_At_Internship> maybe his client/mouse/pc just acted up
13:03:01  <PublicServer> <aldor> i think i shouldn't vote coz i wouldn't build
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13:04:34  <V453000> hm
13:04:38  <V453000> someone make a voting board please
13:04:42  <V453000> @stage Voting
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13:04:53  <Leshrac_At_Internship> dunno if ill build anything
13:04:56  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i already did ;)
13:05:04  <Leshrac_At_Internship> depends if i can get home on time for it :P
13:05:21  <Leshrac_At_Internship> You can put my name under V's plan btw
13:05:40  <imus> !password
13:05:40  <PublicServer> imus: mourns
13:05:50  <imus> time to check the latest plans for my vote :)
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13:08:18  <Leshrac_At_Internship> I dont know about the other plans, but i was having a thought about a possible plan a day or 2 ago which is quite frankly alot like V's plan
13:08:48  <pugi> tray has pax and industries at the same time, also 2 drops for each... bit stupid
13:09:06  <PublicServer> <imus> call it different :)
13:09:12  <PublicServer> <imus> but yes i do have questions about his pax
13:10:55  <pugi> theos has 3 goods drops and 2 huge bbhs/mshs
13:11:33  <pugi> also a bit copied from V with the onesided lanes
13:12:42  <pugi> lopo has basically two stations, one for all raws and one for goods
13:13:03  <PublicServer> <imus> is lopo transfering the goods as well?
13:13:11  <pugi> no point in it really...
13:13:13  <PublicServer> <imus> or is it a direct link to the goods drop
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13:13:24  <pugi> why not just send the trains from goods pickup to drop?
13:13:47  <pugi> and absolutis has also one big everything primaries drop and send to 4 goods drops
13:13:54  <pugi> and also srnw, which we had the last 2 games
13:13:57  <PublicServer> <imus> well he did just say "and goods to ..." so might be open for suggestions
13:14:06  <pugi> so in my opinion V has the only good plan :D
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13:14:23  <pugi> which i liked when i saw it the first time :D
13:14:47  <PublicServer> <imus> V always has the best plan :p stupid V give some others a chance to win the voting =D
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13:15:00  <pugi> i know...
13:15:03  <PublicServer> <imus> or at least wait with your plan to get some other plans :p
13:15:08  <pugi> that is why i said that i sadly only like his plan :D
13:15:16  <pugi> i also did my own plans the last games ;)
13:15:35  <pugi> but i don't want to vote for plans i don't like :D
13:15:41  <PublicServer> <imus> hehe
13:16:36  <pugi> at least i looked at all the plans and tried to understand them
13:16:54  <PublicServer> <imus> I've looked (am looking) at all the plans
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13:17:06  <pugi> oh and absolutis: when you are making your own plan, why are you also voting for V? :D
13:17:12  <PublicServer> <imus> but most have some problems that are cause by the idea
13:17:15  <PublicServer> <imus> so can't be solved
13:17:21  <pugi> in my opinion making an own plan also counts as a vote for that plan
13:17:42  <pugi> because why would you make a plan if there already is a plan you would like to use?
13:17:57  <PublicServer> <imus> maybe everyone else prefers something new?
13:18:08  <Absolutis> i think voting for your own plan is kinda bad behavipur
13:18:17  <pugi> that's not what i said
13:18:28  <PublicServer> <imus> not voting if you have your own plan isn't too bad :)
13:18:40  <pugi> i mean the fact that you made a plan and it is available for voting means that it has your own vote
13:19:01  <Absolutis> i made that plan because some players may prefer it and to show off my idea, not because I prefer it
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13:19:02  <pugi> bit hard to explain...
13:19:12  <pugi> hm
13:19:23  <Leshrac_At_Internship> anyways
13:19:29  <Leshrac_At_Internship> i am gonna go home
13:19:33  <Leshrac_At_Internship> talk to you guys later
13:19:38  <PublicServer> <imus> cya
13:19:38  <pugi> have fun on the way home :D
13:19:43  <Leshrac_At_Internship> if you really need me just query Leshrac
13:19:44  <Leshrac_At_Internship> :P
13:19:54  <Leshrac_At_Internship> laterz
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13:19:57  <pugi> maybe we will feel the urge
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13:23:04  <imus> oh well, V's plan wins again *sigh*
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13:32:32  <LoPo_> !password
13:32:46  <LoPo_> uhmm :S
13:32:57  <LoPo_> can some1 kick me and LoPo :P
13:32:59  <LoPo> !password
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13:33:03  <PublicServer> LoPo_: hiatus
13:33:03  <PublicServer> LoPo: hiatus
13:33:23  <LoPo_> ey why do you use my name?
13:33:44  <LoPo_> ow :P lol
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13:34:26  <pugi> lopo: you can change your nick in irc with /nick
13:34:26  <pugi> :P
13:34:33  <V453000> hm? .D
13:34:43  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah it was bugged
13:34:49  <PublicServer> <LoPo> for some reason :S
13:35:03  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but "LoPo" left
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13:37:37  <PublicServer> <LoPo> pfff :P V always wins :P
13:37:51  <PublicServer> <LoPo> realy must come with better ideas
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13:53:11  <Mazur> !password
13:53:12  <PublicServer> Mazur: swoons
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13:57:43  <Mazur> V453000: No Steel Mill?
13:57:52  <Mazur> Oh, iore drop./
13:57:55  <V453000> isnt there ore drop?
13:57:55  <V453000> yes :)
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13:57:58  <Mazur> OrE Drop
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13:59:03  <Mazur> How many øre would that take, I wonder...
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14:03:22  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> wow
14:03:33  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> V really DOES stand for velociraptor
14:03:47  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> (reference to PSG188)
14:05:08  <V453000> :DD
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14:12:15  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> what did tray do, anyway
14:13:31  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> waste money?
14:16:52  <MrD2DG> !password
14:16:52  <PublicServer> MrD2DG: pantry
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14:17:57  <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> :o Small map
14:17:59  <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Hi
14:18:38  <Leshrac> im back
14:18:44  <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> wb
14:18:59  <Leshrac> !password
14:19:00  <PublicServer> Leshrac: pantry
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14:20:33  <Leshrac> good my vote is on the board
14:26:24  <Leshrac> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d84r8gMGxFQ Go FPSRussia. Tho i wonder where he gets the weapons
14:26:25  <Webster> Title: THE MINIGUN - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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14:37:04  <Absolutis> lol
14:37:23  <Absolutis> go V
14:38:00  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> if he wins this one, itll be 4 wins in a row
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14:40:11  <anni> !download
14:40:11  <PublicServer> anni: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
14:40:11  <PublicServer> anni: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r22950
14:40:18  <V453000> not for the first time I think Absolutis :p
14:40:54  <imus> damn you V, stop being so awesome XD
14:41:45  <V453000> be happy that I feed you good games to be played :P
14:42:07  <imus> hehe
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15:19:32  <JK_> !password
15:19:32  <PublicServer> JK_: vagina
15:20:02  <JK_> !download
15:20:03  <PublicServer> JK_: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
15:20:03  <PublicServer> JK_: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r22950
15:20:16  <pugi> i like the password
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15:34:53  <Dilandau> !password
15:34:53  <PublicServer> Dilandau: stings
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15:35:56  <Vinnie_nl> !screen
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15:36:12  <Vinnie_nl> nice i dont have to vote
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15:43:35  <V453000> is voting that much of an effort to do? :D
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15:45:12  <Vinnie_nl> no there is no space left
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16:08:25  <XeryusTC> !archive
16:08:25  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive
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16:54:55  <V453000> !password
16:54:55  <PublicServer> V453000: ingest
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16:55:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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16:57:58  <aldor> !password
16:57:58  <PublicServer> aldor: ingest
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17:00:33  <Vinnie_nl> !password
17:00:33  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: mellow
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17:00:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
17:04:38  <Maraxus> !password
17:04:38  <PublicServer> Maraxus: mellow
17:04:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> anyone here?
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17:05:13  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> Hi
17:05:17  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
17:08:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> money is a bit low
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17:15:03  <Vinnie_nl> !password
17:15:03  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: veiled
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17:18:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> should I cheat some money?
17:18:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm
17:18:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> MM is barely making money xD
17:18:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> with high TF 5M is nothing :)
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17:19:53  <LXSJason> !password
17:19:57  <PublicServer> LXSJason: veiled
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17:20:25  <LXSJason> !password
17:20:25  <PublicServer> LXSJason: veiled
17:20:33  <V453000> !rcon server_pw
17:20:33  <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'server_password' is: 'barley'
17:20:35  <LXSJason> !password
17:20:35  <PublicServer> LXSJason: veiled
17:20:35  <V453000> hmm
17:20:38  <V453000> pm: no worky :(
17:20:45  <XeryusTC> !restart
17:20:45  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
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17:21:01  <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
17:21:01  <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r22950.
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17:21:14  <LXSJason> riiight
17:21:14  <V453000> hm lets see if that helps
17:21:34  <Vinnie_nl> second tf frenzy?
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17:21:39  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
17:21:39  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG216 (r22950) | STAGE: Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands"
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17:21:54  <V453000> !password
17:21:54  <PublicServer> V453000: plated
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17:22:11  <V453000> hm worky :)
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17:22:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we are rich :)
17:22:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> \o/
17:22:49  <V453000> !auto
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17:24:39  <V453000> .(
17:24:47  <V453000> @stage Building
17:24:47  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG216 (r22950) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands"
17:25:01  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> WOOOOT!
17:25:15  <Dilandau> !password
17:25:15  <PublicServer> Dilandau: plated
17:25:22  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> im waiting for the big TF BOOOOM
17:25:24  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you happy?
17:25:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> k lets build :)
17:25:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> make the outer ML close to the coast if not on the coast
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17:26:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> inner is like 60 tiles from the map edge at least
17:26:31  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> that aint really far
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17:28:28  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> i marked the 60th tile from bot l and r
17:29:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm that isnt much
17:29:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> but keep it
17:29:28  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> how "high" do we want it?
17:29:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i nailed it :)
17:29:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> what do you mean by that
17:29:56  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> its 400m above the 1 lvl above water
17:30:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> LXSJason: so far where fits, just make lines
17:30:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: that activity in the north is you?
17:30:26  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> mmm ok (a)
17:30:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> it hsould be in the middle of the map
17:30:30  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Yes
17:30:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> please build rings first
17:30:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ok?
17:30:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> ..
17:31:09  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> 3 tracks?
17:31:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
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17:31:56  <XeryusTC> V453000: i will join when the basic network gets done :P
17:32:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> :p
17:32:14  <XeryusTC> or possibly after it horribly breaks down
17:32:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe
17:32:28  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> thers a town and a plan in the way!
17:32:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> go through
17:32:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh, this plan .. :D
17:32:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm I will move it in the middle of the map
17:32:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> there should be nothing
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17:38:49  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> inner ring is completish.... 2 towns in the way
17:38:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that is no way to leave the town LXSJason
17:38:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> look
17:39:30  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> plant tree "trick"?
17:40:47  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> lol
17:41:11  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> outer ring 5 from edge?
17:41:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> make it on the coast
17:41:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> somehow
17:42:01  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> o... visitors, afkish for a while :S
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17:43:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
17:43:30  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :)
17:44:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> thinking about corners
17:44:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> drop
17:44:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> cause there should be station
17:44:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> just leave there empty space
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17:49:59  <ziza> !password
17:49:59  <PublicServer> ziza: jalopy
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17:50:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello ZiZa
17:50:30  <ziza> hello :)
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17:51:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> spokes now or drops first?
17:52:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> drops
17:54:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: not a good idea for a station
17:55:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah roro is better
17:55:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> about everything is better than that
17:55:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> not expandable
17:57:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> how did you know it was me
17:57:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> nobody else copies that
17:57:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i like it
17:57:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it looks great
17:57:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> nothing against that, but it just doesnt fit here
17:58:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> damn
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18:03:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> yey one less farm
18:04:31  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its a drop no need to balance
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18:13:25  <aldor> !password
18:13:25  <PublicServer> aldor: jolted
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18:14:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> alloha aldor
18:14:44  <PublicServer> <aldor> hi guys)
18:14:55  <PublicServer> <V453000>  hi hi
18:14:57  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> Hi
18:15:47  <PublicServer> <aldor> clockwise or not?
18:16:07  <PublicServer> <aldor> i mean signals
18:16:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> this way
18:16:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> outer CW inner CCW
18:16:29  <PublicServer> <aldor> k
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18:23:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> no need for overflows btw
18:23:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not even for pickups?
18:23:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> goods pickups
18:23:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> traffic should be stable so why
18:24:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> overflow just makes in unexpandable in general
18:24:37  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> well this game gets expanded big time i guess
18:24:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> I hope so
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18:25:46  <Leshrac> Meh, why do i have to get sick now of all times ><
18:25:52  <Leshrac> I am gonna have to skip this game
18:26:00  <Leshrac> i feel way too sick to think
18:26:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lame excuse
18:26:23  <Leshrac> 40 degree fever and a splitting headache?
18:26:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont think anyone needs to excuse from anything here
18:26:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> get well
18:26:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah cya later
18:26:58  <Leshrac> time for the secret medicine
18:27:02  <Leshrac> Chickensoup
18:27:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> crappy town
18:27:36  <Leshrac> gonna watch you guys build tho
18:27:41  <Leshrac> might learn something
18:27:51  <Leshrac> !password
18:27:51  <PublicServer> Leshrac: uplift
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18:29:49  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> the one way part does make it easier i reckon
18:30:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> who is building town drop?
18:30:33  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> I am
18:30:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> why did you choose that style of station
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18:30:59  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> would you prefer another style?
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18:31:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> no just come discuss it
18:31:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> what is the point or advantage of that style
18:31:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> ? :)
18:31:51  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> well - I had some styles to choose from and chose that
18:31:52  <Tray> I've to apologize myself for being very stupid at the server and I hope that you guys don't hate me for this mistake \:
18:31:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> well sure but why do you choose it
18:32:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i might have missed something with tray
18:32:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> Tray: I believe it was unintentional, but please talk next time
18:32:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> nothing big happened after all
18:32:49  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> it seemed like a good choice back in 210 for a town drop - seemed efficient
18:33:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> what trains did 210 have?
18:33:22  <Tray> !password
18:33:22  <PublicServer> Tray: uplift
18:33:24  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> TL2 Maglev
18:33:28  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> you know what
18:33:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is 211 but I know exactly what you mean
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18:33:40  <Tray> I will remember it.
18:33:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah make my merger
18:33:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok so lets make a short brainstorm
18:33:44  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> screw my headache, the worse that could happen is that i make a giant mess right?
18:34:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> so, what do you need for short maglev trains which need extreme amount of platforms
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18:34:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> you need ... 2 rows of platforms
18:34:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> which is the reason why that
18:34:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> in this game hovewer, we have 160kmh trains which need extra low amount of platforms
18:34:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> see what i mean?
18:35:03  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> low or high?
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18:35:12  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> so a standard 3->12 would be better?
18:35:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Leshrac: gonna help me?
18:35:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> Maraxus: definitely
18:35:26  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> where you building vinnie?
18:35:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Wrecsam:
18:36:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> merge 2 + 3
18:36:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but my mind fails hard at,
18:36:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> atm
18:36:20  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> let me look up mergers
18:36:26  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> never build one XD
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18:37:23  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> what is that? a cyclotron?
18:37:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> wut?
18:37:41  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> at pil
18:37:47  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> west corner
18:37:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: I already told you it should be in the middle of the map ...
18:38:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> LXSJason: no, just a "try again" sort of overflow
18:38:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> not really an overflow but ... thing
18:38:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the spoke yes
18:38:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
18:38:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> and where is it now
18:38:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i didnt remove it yet
18:38:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> 100 - 150
18:38:30  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> exact mid? or visual mid?
18:38:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and someone else is finishing
18:38:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> why is the hub being built then
18:38:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not by me
18:38:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is still your fault
18:38:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke
18:39:27  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> anyways, vinnie hat can i do?
18:39:27  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> ^^ little dozer action passes the message
18:40:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> my merger Leshrac
18:41:09  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> found the mid on the south part
18:41:21  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> hmm the town is kinda in the way
18:42:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets do it the hard way
18:44:30  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> the church and it should be ok
18:44:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i cant kill the church
18:45:38  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> 2 outbound lines from ore mine right?
18:45:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
18:46:42  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> cant we just spread the ML across here ish
18:46:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
18:46:56  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> and then connect ore mine to it with bridges?
18:46:58  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> do we need and all to all on the hub?
18:47:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> LXSJason: depends
18:48:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> could work yes
18:48:43  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> what are you building atm?
18:48:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> also a merger
18:49:17  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> dont we only need 1?
18:49:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nah soon a second
18:49:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but this one will not work
18:50:33  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> well i think it is better to let you build alone
18:50:41  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> i am already getting confused
18:51:08  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> 256 is the map right?
18:51:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> aye
18:51:28  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> meh stupid towns ><
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18:55:40  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> the inner-to-outer hubs, do they need to be all-to-all
18:55:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> depends, but definitely use some balancing
18:56:19  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> hmmm bah
18:56:25  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> then what i made is wrong
18:56:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> what you did so far is just double bridges
18:57:19  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> aka no balancing
18:57:19  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> lol
18:57:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> .. I dont want to discourage you but I would first build some SLH if I were you
18:57:41  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> ^^
18:58:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> mergers are probably the hardest thing to do
19:05:44  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> ill just copy whoever is building that in the east :D
19:05:56  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> then you would have a bad day :P
19:06:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> am i finally getting copied :)
19:06:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> nope :d
19:06:30  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> my ego is sohappy right now
19:06:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> read chat
19:06:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you are west
19:06:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
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19:07:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and he is copying east
19:07:34  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> meh it will be rather large again
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19:11:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> guys you are seriously making tho _exactly_ the same hubs?
19:11:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is pointless
19:12:08  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> i am just messing around
19:12:15  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> dunno if this will even work
19:12:24  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> im just copying :p
19:12:42  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> wuts pointless about the same hubs?
19:12:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is super uber ugly
19:12:58  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> ill make mine prettier afterwards
19:13:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
19:13:22  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> ill noobify it
19:13:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> what if you go build a SLH and I will help you with a bbh later
19:14:08  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> mmm its bedtime for me anyway... got to get some extra sleep in...
19:14:17  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> sick all week already
19:14:27  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> and tomorrow i have Kendo seminar... kendo from 8 till 20.00
19:14:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> well I will help you next time then :)
19:14:51  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> :) sure :)
19:14:55  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> o/ later guys
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19:16:49  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> V, how does !this look?
19:17:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> the choices are probably too long
19:17:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> but keep it and see later
19:18:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> k this station is ready
19:19:53  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> meh now the other side ><
19:20:51  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> shall i just copy it and paste it mirrorred?
19:21:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
19:21:12  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> will make it easier for the poor soul who has to clean up the mess
19:21:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> no it will make the poor soul 2x more angry
19:21:29  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> i meant this is only traffic going into the inner ring
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19:23:49  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> imma get a cup of tea
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19:25:16  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> but V, if i use the 2+2->2 merge as a example, it will be stretched out over about half the map ><
19:25:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> why dont you just give it a random try again
19:25:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> just like the first time
19:25:50  <PublicServer> <Vinnie>  @@(gap 2)
19:25:53  <Webster> PublicServer: For Trainlength of 2: <= 8 needs 2, 9 - 12 needs 3, 13 - 16 needs 4.
19:25:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> and it isnt 2+2 but 3+3
19:26:09  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> i meant to expand from there
19:26:17  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> as the design is quite expandable
19:26:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> try whatever
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19:27:18  <PublicServer> <hnrgrgr> hi
19:27:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> hello
19:27:24  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
19:27:26  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
19:28:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> or even feel free to make just a half Leshrac
19:29:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> but it would be nice to finish the half
19:29:22  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> yeah i am thinking about how to make it better for the other half
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19:33:54  <PublicServer> <Leshrac> ill finish it tomorrow
19:34:03  <Jplate8> !identify
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19:34:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya
19:36:41  <Jplate8> !password
19:36:41  <PublicServer> Jplate8: crispy
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19:39:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> interesting merger V
19:39:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> rather random
19:40:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> but meh, should work
19:40:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> unless
19:40:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh wtf
19:46:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie I have to say your area is very weird at the very least :D
19:46:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> is it now
19:46:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> you first merge trains into 3 lines while giving prio to the empty ones and then re-merge again into the other 3 lines
19:46:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> less tf is nice :)
19:46:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> whyy
19:47:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ohh crap not again
19:47:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> not like full trains make a difference with AL10
19:47:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> but keep the mess, I think it is going to be rebuilt in the future anyway
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20:26:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke i am off gn all
20:26:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
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20:54:03  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> ello
20:55:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
20:56:13  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
20:56:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> come build TW :P
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20:58:20  <LoPo> hello guys :)
20:58:23  <LoPo> !password
20:58:23  <PublicServer> LoPo: voodoo
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20:59:47  <PublicServer> <LoPo> jason need help with the BBH?
20:59:55  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ow hes not here
21:00:53  <V453000> hi LoPo :p
21:00:56  <V453000> I believe you can take over there :p
21:01:01  <PublicServer> <LoPo> k :)
21:01:16  <PublicServer> <LoPo> nice entrance btw V at Coal and Iron drop :)
21:01:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm thanks :p
21:01:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> should be easily expandable
21:01:34  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah :)
21:01:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> which is basically the key of this game imo
21:02:45  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> mind if I (or someone else) move the voting board?
21:02:59  <PublicServer> <LoPo> balanceing only to iner lines?
21:03:17  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah nvm :P
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21:04:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> Maraxus: hide signs
21:04:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> ctrl x
21:05:21  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> ok
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21:22:59  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> @gap 2 9
21:23:05  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> @@gap 2 9
21:23:06  <Webster> PublicServer: (gap <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1.
21:23:18  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> @@(gap 2 9)
21:23:19  <Webster> PublicServer: For Trainlength of 2: 29 - 32 needs 8, 33 - 36 needs 9, 37 - 40 needs 10.
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21:25:15  <TWerkhoven> !gap 2 9
21:25:15  <PublicServer> TWerkhoven: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 2 and gap 9.
21:25:28  <TWerkhoven> !gap 2
21:25:28  <PublicServer> TWerkhoven: !gap <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2)
21:25:35  <TWerkhoven> @gap 2
21:25:35  <Webster> TWerkhoven: For Trainlength of 2: <= 8 needs 2, 9 - 12 needs 3, 13 - 16 needs 4.
21:31:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will start on some SLH :)
21:35:33  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> :)
21:35:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
21:35:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> one short thing tho
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21:37:47  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> should be fixable
21:37:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> easily
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21:43:42  <PublicServer> <LoPo> can i ask something?
21:43:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> NO!
21:43:56  <TWerkhoven> fire away
21:43:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure go on :D
21:44:01  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P
21:44:11  <PublicServer> <LoPo> can you take a look at BBH 03
21:44:17  <PublicServer> <LoPo> and then at the tunnels
21:44:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> im there
21:44:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
21:44:23  <PublicServer> <LoPo> is that a "good" idea
21:44:29  <PublicServer> <LoPo> or ...
21:44:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> PBS and exit signals?
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21:44:53  <PublicServer> <LoPo> well just the combination, tunnel, x, split
21:45:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hello
21:45:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats fine but using PBS and presignals wont work
21:45:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> yarr XeryusTC
21:45:12  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi XTC :)
21:45:22  <PublicServer> <LoPo> k ill change them to normal
21:45:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> why
21:45:38  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> Hi XTC
21:45:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> you dont need PBS there at all
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21:45:51  <PublicServer> <LoPo> just remove the x?
21:45:54  <PublicServer> <LoPo> or PBS?
21:45:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> PBS
21:46:00  <PublicServer> <LoPo> k
21:46:08  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah yeah :)
21:46:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> you understand why you dont need PBS there?
21:46:10  <PublicServer> <LoPo> now i see it
21:46:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> k
21:46:18  <PublicServer> <LoPo> because of the syc
21:46:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
21:46:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> because the gap is 1
21:46:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> which is enough
21:46:46  <PublicServer> <LoPo> oky
21:46:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> and 2 trains cant get into the X at the same time
21:47:06  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah, thats what i meant :P
21:47:12  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but didnt say correctly :P
21:47:16  <PublicServer> <LoPo> anyway :) thx
21:47:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: care to build the refinery? :)
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21:56:51  <theos> !password
21:56:51  <PublicServer> theos: valets
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21:57:35  <PublicServer> <Theos> hello there
21:57:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
21:57:40  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
21:57:44  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi theos :)
21:58:33  <TWerkhoven> ello
22:01:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D todo: burn forest
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22:05:06  * TWerkhoven hands V a torch
22:05:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> torch is disabled
22:05:22  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> :p
22:05:56  <PublicServer> <LoPo> did we won? :P
22:06:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
22:06:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> new game
22:06:02  <PublicServer> <Theos> the whole thing!
22:06:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> brb
22:06:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
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22:08:18  <PublicServer> <LoPo> can i remove MM airfield Pencoed Lakeside? or move it?
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22:16:25  <Maraxus> !password
22:16:25  <PublicServer> Maraxus: quirky
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22:19:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> trainsss
22:22:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> uhm
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22:22:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> who is making that SLH in the south
22:22:11  <PublicServer> <Theos> me
22:22:14  <PublicServer> <Theos> uh oh
22:22:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> make it on one place please
22:22:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> not on 2
22:22:20  <PublicServer> <Theos> rgr
22:22:33  <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol
22:22:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> now the other question
22:22:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> who is building north?
22:22:52  <PublicServer> <LoPo> woot! trains!
22:22:54  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> me
22:22:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> oil and refinery drop?
22:23:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> Maraxus: around?
22:23:08  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> yes
22:23:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> care to explain to TWerkhoven? :)
22:23:57  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> ?
22:24:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
22:24:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> why do you pick that station design
22:24:21  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ahhhh
22:24:31  <PublicServer> <LoPo> BBH 03 is totally finished now :)
22:24:45  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> nod - since we have slow trains we don't need to have that many platforms per line
22:25:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> TWerkhoven: this design is specially to bolster amount of platforms - therefore mainly useful for maglev
22:26:04  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> i was trying to change it into 2 stations, 1 pickup, one drop, both exiting torwards the tunnels
22:26:18  <PublicServer> <LoPo> wow :P
22:26:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> that wouldnt be best I think
22:26:28  <PublicServer> <LoPo> what happend to the "sea" :P
22:28:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> just a normal roro will do ;)
22:28:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> can even be unbalanced
22:28:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> no problem at all
22:28:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> possibly even recommended
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22:29:00  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> hmm
22:29:20  <PublicServer> <LoPo> all ML tracks ar LLL so roro is easiest :P
22:29:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> terminus doesnt fit in this game
22:29:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> but choosing balanced/not balanced roro is the question
22:30:24  <PublicServer> <LoPo> Presignal Bypass Station? :) maybe
22:30:36  <PublicServer> <LoPo> then you dont realy need balancing
22:30:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> say it again?
22:30:52  <PublicServer> <LoPo> Presignal bypass station
22:30:54  <PublicServer> <LoPo> maybe?
22:30:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok, once more I think I cant read
22:31:08  <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol? :P
22:31:16  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> i think its the acronym that does it
22:31:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> PSB is absolutely useless, _especially_ with strong trians
22:31:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> well not absolutely
22:31:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> but in this case, is
22:31:55  <PublicServer> <LoPo> oky
22:32:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> it basically works the same way as coal drop
22:32:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> just 2ways
22:32:27  <PublicServer> <LoPo> aha
22:32:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> and allowing trains in at all times
22:32:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> let me show you
22:32:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> come look at coal drop
22:32:51  <PublicServer> <LoPo> thats why i proposed it
22:33:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> so
22:33:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> now here we have a typical entrance with a long presignal array
22:33:22  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes
22:33:34  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i know how it works :)
22:33:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> now we have a PSB
22:33:56  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye
22:33:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets see what it actually does
22:35:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> now
22:35:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> look at this
22:35:25  <PublicServer> <LoPo> k
22:35:39  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yep
22:35:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
22:35:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> another train can be released
22:35:54  <PublicServer> <LoPo> now a 2nd train will also enter
22:35:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> which is the thing why the PSB is there
22:36:00  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but there will be no platform
22:36:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
22:36:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> exactly
22:36:20  <PublicServer> <LoPo> overflow?
22:36:26  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P
22:36:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> why would you build the presignals then :)
22:36:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats the point
22:36:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> overflow :(
22:36:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: dont worry
22:36:58  <XeryusTC> i take a look at this channel and i find talk about overflows :o
22:36:59  <PublicServer> <LoPo> well as long there are "free" platforms, trains will enter
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22:37:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> why doy ou need the presignals then
22:37:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> if platforms will always be free, this works
22:37:55  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeh
22:37:57  <PublicServer> <LoPo> k :)
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22:38:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> the fact why it ~worked in the old times when it was used was because different trains were usually used
22:39:08  <PublicServer> <LoPo> oky
22:39:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> or lower train density on incoming lines
22:39:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont know how exacly eol worked back then so I cant judge whether it was the same case as today, but nowadays it is quite useless
22:40:01  <PublicServer> <LoPo> oky :)
22:40:03  <PublicServer> <LoPo> good to know :)
22:40:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> just remember it please
22:40:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> there ... is a case when it works
22:40:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> when the array cannot fit a train inside
22:41:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> which ... requires very long trains in order to make it worth it
22:41:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> which isnt too common
22:41:29  <PublicServer> <LoPo> aha
22:42:03  <PublicServer> <LoPo> well, im going to sleep now :)
22:42:09  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> gnite
22:42:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
22:42:23  <PublicServer> <LoPo> tomorrow (if still possible) will start some SLH :)
22:42:29  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu
22:42:39  <PublicServer> <LoPo> bb guys
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22:44:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh, ML outside?
22:44:51  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> th
22:44:54  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> thats to go to the pickup
22:44:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> keep the split but make ML inside the map
22:44:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh okay
22:45:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> nevermind :)
22:45:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will make a split, complete ML and make steel trains run
22:45:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok?
22:45:44  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> having said that, i hadnt't taken that into account
22:45:44  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> sure
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22:59:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> let that one die Theos
22:59:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> take the first one but the other not
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23:00:03  <PublicServer> <Theos> rgr
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23:11:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> why dont you build the trains Theos
23:11:45  <PublicServer> <Theos> factory drop is done?
23:11:50  <PublicServer> <Theos> doh
23:11:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes it is
23:11:52  <PublicServer> <Theos> yes it is
23:12:12  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> i should go to bed, gotta get up and go to work in the morning
23:12:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw better have bridges not in sync than a cl
23:12:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> neither of they might cause some real pain, but still :p
23:13:18  <PublicServer> <Theos> aye
23:13:24  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> gnite
23:13:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
23:13:46  <PublicServer> <Theos> night
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23:14:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw, a trick
23:14:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> just ctrl click on the station to automatically make a full load order
23:14:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> when giving orders
23:14:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> and you dont need "no unloading"
23:15:16  <PublicServer> <Theos> okays
23:15:22  <PublicServer> <Theos> crtl does everything usefull doesnt it
23:15:24  <PublicServer> <Theos> lol
23:15:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe almost
23:15:43  <PublicServer> <Theos> ctrl click mlh?
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23:18:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> yarr
23:18:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ahoy!
23:19:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i wonder why people always build first and add signals when they're done :O
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23:19:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm :)
23:19:52  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it seems to me that that makes it easier to forget to signal stuff
23:20:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> well it would mainly make some people realize what they actually build
23:20:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i wasnt talking about oil specifically btw
23:20:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> for the person who is now franticly signalling it ;)
23:20:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> me neither
23:20:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> I just signalled it
23:20:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> TW just left
23:21:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i was looking at bbh4 while i said that :P
23:21:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm yes
23:21:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw if you said you come when the game breaks, go rebuild factory D:
23:21:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> or .. soonish :p
23:22:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wtf
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23:22:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think someone forgot about prios on the balancers xD
23:22:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is the last issue
23:22:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh there
23:23:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i dont like bbh4 tbh
23:23:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> me neither but it is his first merger
23:24:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fair enough
23:24:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> now look at factory
23:24:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> and tell me what
23:24:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol
23:24:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> someone ran into space troubles? :D
23:24:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> no someone made some stupid decisions
23:25:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> inline balancer in front of unbalanced station, and then the double merge
23:25:07  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, weird balancer :o
23:25:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> and 6 platforms
23:25:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf.
23:25:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> + 100% unexpandable
23:25:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and terminus :o
23:25:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> feel free to nuke and redo I say
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23:25:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but this will need to be rebuild
23:26:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> this station will die  under stress
23:26:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 2 platforms per ML lane xD
23:26:17  <V453000> duh
23:26:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, 4 for the drop
23:26:26  <V453000> feel free to rebuild now id say
23:26:32  <V453000> !password
23:26:32  <PublicServer> V453000: outers
23:26:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> good thing that the ML will never be full of trains going to this station :P
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23:27:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyway
23:27:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ML merger also doesnt take ML traffic into account while balancing
23:27:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will be going
23:27:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> well the mergers standalone are quite okay
23:28:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it basically just mixes the lines and them force them to join
23:28:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> but the usage is just full stupid
23:28:08  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> which does work, but not optimally
23:28:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> rather fine id say
23:28:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it would need some backlog already to properly balance
23:28:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, yes
23:28:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> and not optimal with single bridge
23:28:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> to be fair, we see this kind of stuff more often and usually it doesnt break horrible
23:28:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> horribly*
23:28:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> so i guess it will be fine
23:29:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes it probably will as the trains accelerate insta
23:29:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> but the whole system of the complex is just ... bad
23:29:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> quite
23:29:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> feel free to rebuild now I think
23:29:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> or
23:29:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> or later, as you want :)
23:29:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> nah, i dont feel like building atm
23:29:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> k
23:30:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyway, good night
23:30:05  <XeryusTC> gn!
23:30:09  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> gn
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23:31:15  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> im off as well - gn
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23:45:24  <imus> !password
23:45:24  <PublicServer> imus: volley
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23:47:47  <PublicServer> <Theos> hey there
23:48:01  <PublicServer> <imus> hi
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23:53:15  <PublicServer> <imus> i'm off to bed
23:53:17  <PublicServer> <imus> cya
23:53:20  <PublicServer> <Theos> peace
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