Log for #openttdcoop on 1st October 2011:
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00:47:07  <PublicServer> Steven: direst
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05:24:50  <Steven> !password
05:24:50  <PublicServer> Steven: polkas
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05:34:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello Steven
05:34:29  <Steven> hello Vinnie
05:34:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> first time here?
05:34:52  <Steven> yes
05:35:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wanna make some more planes for money with me?
05:35:27  <Steven> sure
05:36:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> barerton to ?
05:37:28  <Steven> Simonstown?
05:37:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> great you may type ingame btw
05:38:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> make the station signs far from the town but within 64 tiles
05:38:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so we make more money
05:41:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke lets make some planes
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05:44:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> use the cntrl key when you build a station
05:44:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> if i may be so bold
05:50:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nice maybe we will have enought when we start
05:55:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> actually this game can be quite nice
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06:03:47  <Steven> !password
06:03:47  <PublicServer> Steven: gorged
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06:05:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so in what timezone do you live?
06:07:43  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> anyway i will be in another game building a network
06:08:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> see you later
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08:09:26  <Tray> !password
08:09:26  <PublicServer> Tray: broach
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08:24:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie_highlight_me> hello Tray
08:25:03  <PublicServer> <Tray> hi
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08:25:26  <PublicServer> <Tray> I'm kind of afk, just wanted to enanble the MM
08:25:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke np
08:25:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> me2
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09:43:12  <Dilandau> !password
09:43:13  <PublicServer> Dilandau: prongs
09:43:14  <Dilandau> hello
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09:43:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
09:46:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> why the sign V kills every other plan?
09:50:07  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> i do not know
09:53:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmm maybe the basecost newgrf needs to be implemented
09:53:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> E40 masai has running cost of 13k so 150k for a TL50 train
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10:13:07  <Maraxus> !players
10:13:09  <PublicServer> Maraxus: Client 164 (Orange) is Vinnie, in company 1 (Gordon & Co.)
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10:13:41  <Maraxus> !password
10:13:41  <PublicServer> Maraxus: simile
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10:14:15  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
10:15:17  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi
10:15:27  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> cya
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10:15:49  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu
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10:21:03  <V453000> !password
10:21:03  <PublicServer> V453000: simile
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10:21:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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10:21:39  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
10:21:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: why would you need a basecost
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10:41:56  <sturmi> !password
10:41:56  <PublicServer> sturmi: morale
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10:42:46  <PublicServer> <sturmi> hi guys
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10:56:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke im back
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11:17:46  <Tray> !password
11:17:46  <PublicServer> Tray: snorts
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11:19:15  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Maraxus: are you still here?
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11:19:45  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> yes
11:20:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> can i tell a little plan to you and you say if it sucks or not?
11:20:25  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> go ahead
11:20:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we now got a map 2x 512x512. so twice the normal size
11:20:53  <sturmi> !password
11:20:53  <PublicServer> sturmi: snorts
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11:21:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> if we divide it into two kinds and play a little vs game
11:21:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> non member vs member on ech side of the map
11:21:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> each side
11:21:25  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> would that be fun or not?
11:21:59  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> it would probably teach non-members a lot I think
11:22:12  <Tray> You should add goals
11:22:15  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> doesn't matter i am a non member to
11:22:27  <KenjiE20> a) we do that on other servers usually
11:22:32  <KenjiE20> b) non members would win
11:22:41  <KenjiE20> (members don't play :p )
11:22:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 3 are active
11:23:16  <Tray> I think you should propose that as a plan and let voters decide
11:23:56  <KenjiE20> in all seriousness though, there used to be a special server mod that mirrored a map into two seperate peices that could be team-played
11:24:09  <KenjiE20> it's probably horribly outdated by now though
11:24:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i have read that somewhere
11:24:25  <KenjiE20> it was rather neat, and iirc we used it breifly
11:24:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> well two exact maptypes isnt needed
11:25:55  <KenjiE20> I like IS style vs with all the subterfuge and whatnot that potentially creates :D
11:26:27  <Vinnie_nl> IS style?
11:26:59  <hylje> infrastructure sharing
11:27:08  <KenjiE20> @is2
11:27:09  <Webster> is2: Infrastructure Sharing, see also:
11:27:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ohh yes
11:28:27  <V453000> the head to head patch is quite interesting
11:28:37  <KenjiE20> ^ that's what is was called
11:28:40  <KenjiE20> ty V
11:29:02  <V453000> !password
11:29:02  <PublicServer> V453000: verged
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11:29:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> and hi :p
11:29:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
11:29:54  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
11:30:43  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and basecost mod to make the running cost of trains lower btw
11:30:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> why
11:30:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> to the earlier question
11:31:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> no reason really
11:31:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you get either 60k or 130k a year for a train
11:31:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> so what :)
11:31:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> they will still profit
11:31:36  <KenjiE20> it's not like you don't make squillians of cash anyway :p
11:31:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> particularly goods trains will be way profittable
11:31:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but with the slow speed it might be one trip a year
11:32:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> 251 is slow?
11:32:14  <KenjiE20> "trains sah, thasands of them"
11:32:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> for 1024 it is imo
11:32:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> dude
11:32:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets count based on psg 182
11:32:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
11:32:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke i get 182
11:33:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> TL20 going over half map gets 600 000 profit per trip
11:33:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> take TL50 and double long trip
11:33:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> still not enough?
11:33:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> plus why would our trains suddenly not make money when they make money always
11:33:50  <KenjiE20> coop trains make money?
11:33:54  <KenjiE20> :P
11:34:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke oke i get it
11:34:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> with this set I mean ... additionally, look at previous game. Expensive trains, TL2, long detours on network
11:34:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> still made big profit
11:36:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> but back to your point ... why would you play 2 games at once
11:36:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2 times more lag
11:37:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> with tiny map, possibly
11:37:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> but not 2 large scale games at once
11:37:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> interesting then you get 2 completly different plans on the same map
11:38:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and different networks
11:38:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> uhm
11:38:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> just like you get in 2 different games
11:38:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> if the halves of the map are the same, then possibly
11:38:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes but you essentally play the map twice
11:39:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> you play 2 maps
11:39:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> if the halves arent equal
11:40:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes true but with the same newgrf sets.
11:40:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> uhm
11:41:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> we basically play with the same newgrf set like every 10th game max
11:41:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> imo, with a different scenario: maybe, but halving a map just "cause" seems odd to me
11:42:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i am not proposing it as a plan atm
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11:42:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> I had a similar idea and I wanted to hand-make a double 256x256, but just too much effort :
11:42:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
11:42:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> well you wanted feedback :)
11:42:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i remember linkgame island in the orignal game
11:42:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i got feedback now
11:43:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> linkgame island ?
11:43:15  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
11:43:37  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not exactly the same but almost identical
11:44:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> was that some scenario or?
11:44:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes it was
11:45:26  <KenjiE20> that was the bunch of squares linked by single road and single tile space for rail right?
11:46:38  <Vinnie_nl>
11:46:39  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - LINK GAME ISLANDS (at
11:46:46  <Vinnie_nl> i need patch settings for it :(
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11:52:51  <KenjiE20> ohh that one
11:53:09  <Franco> !password
11:53:10  <PublicServer> Franco: knotty
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11:53:23  <KenjiE20> me and my dad used to play that, but we used to halve the map between us anyway
11:53:29  <Vinnie_nl> you found a way to open it?
11:53:46  <KenjiE20> ...yes?
11:54:17  <PublicServer> <Franco> hi
11:54:28  <Vinnie_nl> i tried developer 0 1 2. and i still cant open it. might be because i dont know how to bypass missing newgrfs.
11:54:29  <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - (again, try !grf)
11:54:30  <Vinnie_nl> hello
11:58:11  <KenjiE20> <-- if you're interested in seeing it
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11:58:55  <Vinnie_nl> yeah that is the one
11:59:29  <Vinnie_nl> i always got the north side :D
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12:01:20  <V453000> ahh
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12:11:33  <Vinnie_nl> voting board?
12:11:59  <V453000> already?
12:12:03  <V453000> wait a few hours I think
12:12:14  <V453000> or make another plan :p
12:13:43  <Vinnie_nl> another plan :D
12:14:24  <hylje> !password
12:14:24  <PublicServer> hylje: fleshy
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12:15:13  <PublicServer> <hylje> what's up with the reversed engine
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12:15:47  <V453000> hylje: you cant reverse engines with the current version of openttd
12:16:01  <V453000> however you can clone them
12:16:08  <PublicServer> <hylje> but what's the point
12:16:30  <V453000> if some plan wanted to use the CT60, you could double engines without breaking it
12:16:54  <PublicServer> <hylje> yea but why
12:17:10  <V453000> try to build a CT60 with 2 engines
12:17:17  <V453000> it is ugly
12:18:00  <PublicServer> <hylje> right
12:18:21  <V453000> it gets worse in cases like with UKRS - if UKRS GEC91 is single headed, it flips in terminus stations, But you cannot flip it yourself - when you put 1 flipped in the end of the train, they dont flip anymore and look just fine
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12:18:31  <V453000> just retarded feature in openttd which we overcome ..
12:18:46  <PublicServer> <hylje> heh
12:18:53  <PublicServer> <hylje> or just a hidden feature
12:19:13  <V453000> you cant flip it nowadays
12:19:23  <V453000> just try it, it doesnt work
12:19:25  <PublicServer> <hylje> what's the fastest train in this set
12:19:41  <V453000> for cargo eh40 251kmh, for pax the CT60 with 300kmh
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12:20:17  <V453000> !password
12:20:17  <PublicServer> V453000: fleshy
12:20:22  <PublicServer> <hylje> how many ottd days it takes to go 20 tiles at 300km/h
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12:20:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> no clue, why
12:21:12  <PublicServer> <hylje> i was thinking of an optimized operating profit pax ring line
12:21:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> what does that mean
12:22:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> or ... how exactly do you mean it profit optimised
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12:23:32  <PublicServer> <hylje> move pax at 300km/h for 40 days or so to minimize acceleration time and maximise payment rate
12:24:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> ahh
12:24:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm
12:27:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> not sure how to imagine that working :)
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12:28:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> wow that isnt short :D
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12:31:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> like eternity to accelerate :(
12:31:26  <PublicServer> <hylje> 76 tiles
12:31:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> but I expected it to be even worse tbh
12:31:34  <PublicServer> <hylje> that's 2 engines
12:31:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
12:31:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> although I dont think you want TL15 with 300kmh
12:32:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> CL15 = death
12:32:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> we had a CL10 game already ... psg 187 ... and that was quite intense
12:32:28  <PublicServer> <hylje> 74 tiles to accelerate
12:32:42  <PublicServer> <hylje> okay i'll halve it to TL8
12:34:24  <PublicServer> <hylje> 36
12:34:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> much nicer
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12:35:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok, TL8 with 2 engines does nicely, but how do you want to use it? :)
12:37:10  <PublicServer> <hylje> so with roughly 2*36 tiles of 150km/h average, rest 300km/h we can come up with the 40 day tile distance
12:38:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> why 40 days?
12:38:13  <PublicServer> <hylje> payment rates start dropping at about that point
12:38:31  <PublicServer> <hylje> not by much, but the short distance rates are affected by acceleration
12:38:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm
12:39:11  <PublicServer> <hylje> so 10 tiles per day
12:39:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> so technically it might be a good idea to make shorter trains accelerating sooner
12:39:27  <PublicServer> <hylje> 40 days is 400 tiles
12:39:36  <Fuco> !dl win64
12:39:36  <PublicServer> Fuco:
12:39:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> half the map :D
12:39:42  <PublicServer> <hylje> of which we subtract acceleration of 36 tiles
12:39:52  <PublicServer> <hylje> 360 tiles is roughly a third of the map
12:40:16  <PublicServer> <hylje> so we can have three stations along both outer edges
12:40:23  <PublicServer> <hylje> and the trains go around in a ring
12:40:28  <Fuco> !password
12:40:28  <PublicServer> Fuco: rascal
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12:40:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see
12:40:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> but you still need to get the passengers to those stations somehow :)
12:40:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi fuco! :)
12:41:02  <PublicServer> <Fuuco> hi
12:41:05  <PublicServer> <hylje> sbahn could be a good idea
12:41:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah but Sbahn counts in the transport time, doesnt it
12:41:27  <PublicServer> <Fuuco> is this gonna be a pax game?
12:41:33  <PublicServer> <hylje> i think so
12:41:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> depends on plan
12:41:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> so far all plans are cargo
12:41:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> but feel free to make your own
12:42:10  <PublicServer> <hylje> sbahn trains can be assumed to have stupid acceleration rates
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12:42:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> the only "problem" for Sbahn trains with this trains set is that there is no other pax train :(
12:42:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> only the CT60
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12:43:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can use a cargo train with pax wagons, sure,but ... :)
12:43:33  <PublicServer> <hylje> think i can come up with optimal station coverage with sbahn transport time counted
12:43:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm
12:43:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> not sure if it is worth so much counting tbh
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12:45:34  <hylje> !password
12:45:34  <PublicServer> hylje: scalar
12:45:42  <PublicServer> <Fuuco> TL50 :O that won't get to full speed the entire time of travel :D
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12:45:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> Fuuco: in several tiles
12:46:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i bet those will be terminus stations
12:46:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> for the TL5?
12:46:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> why would they
12:46:31  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 50
12:46:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye, sorry
12:46:43  <PublicServer> <Fuuco> no, RORO 300 tiles wide!
12:46:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> terminus stations would be a very bad choice
12:47:04  <PublicServer> <Fuuco> imagine the splitting on the terminus
12:47:06  <PublicServer> <Fuuco> that'd be mad
12:47:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but yesterday you said max corner speed is 231 right?
12:47:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is
12:47:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> then the ML can slowdown in the corners
12:47:56  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> how to fix that?
12:47:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> well first you split goods from raws
12:48:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> and you really dont care if goods slow down on their own line
12:48:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke and otherwise you can double a corner right
12:48:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> theoretically
12:48:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> but you wont need it at all
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12:49:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> fuco: TL50 with heavy wagons
12:49:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> full goods train will be just a tiny bit heavier
12:50:46  <PublicServer> <Fuuco> is that 10 engines?
12:50:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
12:51:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> effectively one engine for TL5 ... that isnt much
12:51:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> but it is fine here I think
12:51:44  <PublicServer> <Fuuco> how I love the quantum depos :D
12:51:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
12:51:58  <PublicServer> <Fuuco> trains = T bosons
12:52:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> well SLH in your plan will be easy
12:53:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> you just have to keep ML straight, and CL7 ... is all
12:53:15  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> np
12:53:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> just thought it would be nice to have a simplier game for once
12:54:00  <PublicServer> <Fuuco> simple can be beautiful too!
12:54:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> certainly :)
12:54:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> and a 50 tile long eyecandy station can get a bit awesome :P
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12:57:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke how to kill some time for the rest of the day
12:57:07  <PublicServer> <hylje> plan
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12:57:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> ^ :)
12:57:43  <PublicServer> <hylje> i'm figuring out the optimal sbahn/ml config for a budget of 40 day pax trips
12:58:05  <PublicServer> <hylje> for full sbahn coverage between stations
12:58:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so 40 days between pickup and drop at terminus?
12:58:33  <PublicServer> <hylje> yea
12:58:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> at least a timetable
12:58:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> for the close stations
12:59:17  <PublicServer> <hylje> just the time it takes for the average sbahn passenger to arrive at the 40 day mainline station
12:59:28  <PublicServer> <hylje> or rather
12:59:30  <PublicServer> <hylje> the distance
12:59:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> well lets see
13:00:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> on wiki is an acceration calculation right?
13:00:17  <PublicServer> <hylje> i'm basing acceleration on testing near V's plan
13:00:19  <PublicServer> <hylje> idutywa west
13:00:37  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> keep TL8?
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13:00:47  <PublicServer> <hylje> TL8 seems to be a good mainline size
13:00:58  <PublicServer> <hylje> the more arbitrary restrictions the simpler the math
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13:02:00  <mfb-> hi
13:02:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so you say no slopes one ground level
13:02:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
13:03:01  <mfb-> 3600 of 65536 tiles were filled with trains :D
13:03:27  <mfb-> !password
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13:03:53  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, large map
13:05:26  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
13:05:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> TL50 :D
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13:07:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmm your train already weighs as mutch as a fully loaded one
13:07:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nvm
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13:09:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
13:09:26  <PublicServer> <mfb> "double curves" for TL50 stations? :D
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13:14:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
13:17:28  <V453000> mfb: I strongly doubt goods line will be full
13:17:34  <V453000> so the slowdown is affordable
13:17:58  <PublicServer> <mfb> we need some curves as station entry anyway
13:18:23  <PublicServer> <mfb> acceleration is good
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13:20:37  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
13:20:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> trains slow down with every CL
13:21:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> even sbend?
13:21:14  <PublicServer> <mfb> yes
13:21:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> that is why ML has to stay straight
13:21:30  <sturmi> if there are more than one sbend within TL
13:21:38  <PublicServer> <mfb> see example track
13:21:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i see
13:21:52  <PublicServer> <mfb> even the long sbend slows down
13:22:10  <PublicServer> <mfb> the one of that train
13:22:37  <PublicServer> <mfb> do we have similar trains with 231km/h?
13:22:39  <Franco> !password
13:22:39  <PublicServer> Franco: spurns
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13:23:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no sbend does not slowdown
13:23:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> 251->231
13:23:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> on the way back it still is in a corner
13:23:37  <PublicServer> <mfb> even without the corner
13:23:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> -> now
13:24:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> and now again
13:25:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> make the corner 50 tiles and it wont slow
13:25:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i guess
13:25:20  <mfb-> of course
13:25:28  <mfb-> CL>=TL is always fine
13:25:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie>  @@(clcalc erail 260)
13:25:46  <PublicServer> <mfb> the sbend would still be there
13:25:46  <Webster> PublicServer: Required CL for rail at 260km/h is 7 (13 half tiles) or TL
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13:26:37  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> can i remove that example?
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13:26:59  <PublicServer> Tray: nymphs
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13:37:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> fail
13:37:52  <BigElephant> !download
13:37:52  <PublicServer> BigElephant: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
13:37:52  <PublicServer> BigElephant:
13:38:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that might slow down a little
13:38:29  <PublicServer> <Tray> you are right \:
13:38:40  <PublicServer> <Tray> we need a 88 km/h trains! (:
13:38:59  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> and with CL2 ?
13:39:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 1
13:39:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but it has already been tested. TL17 and CL1
13:39:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it jams like strawberry jam
13:39:37  <PublicServer> <Tray> yes, I plaxed that game
13:39:55  <BigElephant> !password
13:39:56  <PublicServer> BigElephant: nymphs
13:39:56  <PublicServer> <Tray> the discussion how long the actual signal gap is was nice (:
13:40:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i would go for 34 - 38
13:40:33  <PublicServer> <Tray> I think the outcome was TL + 1 or something
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13:40:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but you forget that the train also jams the complete track while exiting the buffer
13:41:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ergo 2 TL
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13:41:32  <PublicServer> <Tray> yeah xtc mentioned that
13:42:13  <PublicServer> <Tray> but I think the reason is that the entering train doesn't count at signal gap
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13:42:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> make an order for the train
13:43:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no orders is pf unpredictable
13:44:07  <BigElephant> !password
13:44:08  <PublicServer> BigElephant: weirdo
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13:44:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
13:45:12  <PublicServer> <BigElephant> Hello
13:46:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> who made the interesting suggestion near V his plan?
13:47:54  <PublicServer> <Tray> I do not know.
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13:52:02  <Vinnie_nl> anyone up for some 1 on 1 ttd action?
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13:59:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> uhh
13:59:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> 4way SLHs?
13:59:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think we are better off with normal SLHs
14:00:31  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but with that 200 tile center you can make the 50 tile curves
14:00:37  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so no speedloss
14:00:51  <PublicServer> <hylje> i figured it out
14:01:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> why would you make curves on ML
14:01:11  <PublicServer> <hylje> for a 40 days budget you spend about half the time on a sbahn and another on the ml
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14:01:27  <PublicServer> <hylje> getting about 135 tiles between ml stations
14:02:00  <Vinnie_nl> the curve for the station entry and exit
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14:02:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> uhm
14:02:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> which can be like 10 tiles?
14:03:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont really know how high train density do you expect in the TL50 line, but I dont expect the line to be nowhere near full
14:03:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> btw i did not build that
14:03:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes mfb did
14:05:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> well a bigger gap between MLs, why not, but 4way SLHs with CL7 ... not really
14:05:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> while you want to keep ML straight
14:06:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> and it really is pointless to keep 251 speed after you split goods trains away
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14:07:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont you think?
14:07:55  <Vinnie_nl> i kinda do and i kinda dont
14:08:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> why?
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14:08:44  <Vinnie_nl> if two goods trains are on the same ml behind each other they will jam the split. but that chance is so rare
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14:09:06  <hylje> !password
14:09:06  <PublicServer> hylje: jelled
14:09:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> what?
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14:09:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> well that shouldnt be a problem
14:10:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> plus you can easily make sure that that never happens
14:10:27  <Vinnie_nl> some logic?
14:10:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, something as complicated as leaving a longer gap at the end where they merge into the line :D
14:11:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> logic ... duh
14:11:29  <Vinnie_nl> the most hardest to spot logic. gaps
14:11:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
14:12:17  <Vinnie_nl> nvm
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14:12:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> mhm, shall we start voting?
14:12:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> hylje: making a plan?
14:13:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> North corner
14:13:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> no that isnt him
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14:18:31  <V453000> @stage Voting
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14:18:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh :)
14:19:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> got to go
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14:19:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> me too, later
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14:19:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya
14:19:23  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu
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14:24:53  <BigElephant> !password
14:24:53  <PublicServer> BigElephant: apples
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14:39:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> still makeing a plan hylje?
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14:53:46  <Franco> !password
14:53:46  <PublicServer> Franco: summit
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15:04:14  <PublicServer> Patrickov: accrue
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15:27:29  <PublicServer> Absolutis: forays
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15:43:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ke cya later today
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16:17:58  <Franco> !password
16:17:58  <PublicServer> Franco: crepes
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16:33:16  <Steven> !password
16:33:16  <PublicServer> Steven: inerts
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16:38:33  <LoPo> hello
16:38:39  <LoPo> ow already voting :P
16:38:43  <LoPo> !password
16:38:43  <PublicServer> LoPo: inerts
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16:44:01  <PublicServer> <LoPo> any1 around? :P
16:44:19  <KenjiE20> no
16:44:30  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah oky
16:44:35  <KenjiE20> :p
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16:46:01  <KenjiE20> XD
16:46:17  <Vinnie_nl> !password
16:46:17  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: wither
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16:46:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
16:46:46  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi
16:46:46  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
16:48:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ohh we got space and some money
16:48:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> who had some trouble makeing a SLH?
16:49:00  <PublicServer> <LoPo> dunno
16:49:54  <PublicServer> <LoPo> to bad i was to late to make a plan :|
16:50:21  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but ill go with V's because it looks almoast the same
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16:55:28  <V453000> want to start building?
16:55:31  <LoPo> this will be an awsome game :)
16:55:38  <LoPo> ow :P yah :)
16:55:51  <LoPo> i think your plan wins anyway
16:56:05  <V453000> it seems so
16:56:12  <V453000> !password
16:56:12  <PublicServer> V453000: wither
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16:56:43  <V453000> @stage Building
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16:57:22  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00041FE0:
16:57:36  <PublicServer> <LoPo> does the ML has to be exactly in the center of the map?
16:57:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
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16:57:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> just aboutish
16:57:50  <PublicServer> <LoPo> k
16:58:17  <PublicServer> <LoPo> dodge water or TF it away?
16:58:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> straight. :)
16:58:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> there was no water, remember?
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16:58:53  <Tray> !password
16:58:53  <PublicServer> Tray: rafter
16:59:01  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i dont recall anthing about "no water"
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17:01:24  <Tray> Vinnie_nl, what do you mean 'haven't worked out'?
17:01:34  <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol damn :P
17:01:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> I was wondering that too
17:01:40  <PublicServer> <LoPo> look at !lol
17:01:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> :DDD
17:01:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> just dodge it lopo
17:02:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> 1 curve like this still means straight
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17:02:49  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :)
17:05:04  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> :D
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17:05:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :p
17:05:29  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hi
17:05:49  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> SLH's normal?
17:05:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
17:06:17  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmm, signals would help a lot
17:09:18  <PublicServer> <Tray> TL 50 should enable nice eyecandy at stations
17:09:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
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17:12:28  <PublicServer> <LoPo> im going to eat :) may i build the east pickup/drop?
17:12:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you want
17:12:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> place a wip sign eventualy I guess
17:12:52  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :)
17:13:43  <PublicServer> <Tray> V, no balancing?
17:13:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> no, why
17:13:56  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> is that location ok for the industries in W
17:14:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> no it isnt
17:14:17  <PublicServer> <Tray> Than: why do you have thos bidges at all?
17:14:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> basically: why not :)
17:15:08  <PublicServer> <Tray> but you hate 'just because'
17:15:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, this is well compatible with eventual presignal bypass which is usable in this case
17:16:50  <PublicServer> <Tray> hrm, yeah
17:16:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> so there is some why :p
17:18:51  <PublicServer> <Tray> the sl's may need LLRR because they have to cover quite huge areas
17:19:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> so they could fill LLL RRR ML? :)
17:19:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> depends on how far we expand
17:20:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Tray. i see no town drop
17:20:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> wut? :D
17:20:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and back
17:20:21  <PublicServer> <Tray> it's on the middle link
17:20:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> right in the middle? :D
17:20:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Crap
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17:21:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> im such an idiot
17:21:56  <PublicServer> <Tray> well don't think it does matter against V's plan (:
17:22:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> would you want a vote from a blind voter anyway? :P
17:23:06  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> where should the industries for west be
17:23:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> why do you care so much
17:23:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> definitely not there
17:24:18  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> gtg
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17:24:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh ffs
17:24:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> SLH01 has no split for W/E and joins right away
17:25:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf.
17:25:25  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> shall i fix it?
17:25:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
17:27:22  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00039F5E:
17:29:57  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> CL for TL7 trains?
17:30:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> guess :)
17:30:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> for 251
17:30:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> (7 of course)
17:31:04  <PublicServer> <Tray> hrm
17:31:32  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ow :S did we build the right tracks?
17:31:46  <PublicServer> <LoPo> nope
17:31:56  <PublicServer> <LoPo> we need electric
17:32:16  <PublicServer> <Tray> (:
17:32:35  <PublicServer> <LoPo> nice
17:42:23  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0004C845:
17:42:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> o
17:42:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf signalling lopo
17:42:57  <Franco> !password
17:42:57  <PublicServer> Franco: celery
17:42:59  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ow ye
17:43:05  <PublicServer> <LoPo> not good i know
17:43:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> it makes no sense
17:43:13  <PublicServer> *** Franco has left the game (general error)
17:43:20  <Franco> hmm
17:43:26  <Franco> the server drops me instantly when i join
17:43:27  <V453000> try again
17:43:42  <PublicServer> <Franco> oh
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17:43:44  <PublicServer> <Franco> now its okay
17:43:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> and the presignals?
17:44:06  <PublicServer> <LoPo> not ready jet
17:44:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> okay ..
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17:46:27  <PublicServer> <Franco> the Short Station West is going to be both the drop and the pickup for the long trains, right?
17:46:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
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17:50:11  <PublicServer> <Tray> re
17:52:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> how are you gonna mae
17:52:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oops
17:52:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
17:52:17  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> how are you gonna make the prio's tray
17:52:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke
17:52:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh, bloody 4way SLH
17:53:05  <PublicServer> <Tray> not okay?
17:53:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> no matter
17:57:21  <PublicServer> <Tray> hrm
17:57:23  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00037409:
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18:14:04  <Steven> !screen
18:14:04  <PublicServer> *** Steven made screenshot at 0003343E:
18:17:36  <PublicServer> <Tray> hrm
18:17:42  <PublicServer> <Tray> looks okay
18:18:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> signals and done :)
18:18:32  <PublicServer> <Tray> sigh
18:22:44  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) i think east station is finished
18:23:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> tray have a look at this
18:24:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> :P
18:24:13  <XeryusTC> new game?
18:24:16  <PublicServer> <Tray> you are way cooler than I am (:
18:24:20  <V453000> XeryusTC: arr
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18:25:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, TL 50 :o
18:25:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:25:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> just an easy game
18:25:43  <XeryusTC> too bad i didnt get to make a plan :o
18:27:25  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00036016:
18:27:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> Tray: be sure you have inaccessible priorities
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18:28:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> particularly likely to break with 2way signals
18:29:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> LoPo: cant make a factory there probably
18:29:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> too close to the forest
18:29:57  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ow :P
18:30:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can have a FPP there though
18:30:11  <PublicServer> <LoPo> k :)
18:30:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> just change the shape a little bit
18:30:17  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye
18:30:21  <PublicServer> <LoPo> and the factory?
18:30:33  <PublicServer> <LoPo> at HERE?
18:30:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont know how far it needs to be
18:30:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> that one is safe :)
18:30:50  <PublicServer> <LoPo> k :)
18:31:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ahh there they are
18:32:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh it will :)
18:32:51  <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol
18:32:52  <V453000> oh well
18:32:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> teamchat
18:33:00  <V453000> !rcon set multiple_industry_per_town
18:33:00  <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'multiple_industry_per_town' is: 'off' (min: 0, max: 1)
18:33:02  <V453000> !rcon set multiple_industry_per_town 1
18:33:04  <V453000> there you go
18:34:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> :o you make a special candy station?
18:34:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> that wont show cargo containers etc
18:34:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> ah you have containers on pickup
18:35:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see now :)
18:35:06  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye its for the roads P
18:35:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya folks
18:35:43  <PublicServer> <LoPo> bb
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18:35:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> cu
18:35:59  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu
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18:37:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> Tray: name goes in the SLH XX sign ;)
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18:37:44  <PublicServer> <Tray> well
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18:38:40  <PublicServer> <Tray> add trains now? (:
18:38:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure thing
18:39:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> west ready
18:39:37  <PublicServer> <LoPo> east also
18:40:15  <PublicServer> <LoPo> LOL!
18:40:25  <PublicServer> <LoPo> the ruber plantation is gone at east :P
18:40:27  <PublicServer> <LoPo> omg
18:40:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
18:40:38  <PublicServer> <LoPo> damn you TTD!
18:42:05  <PublicServer> <Tray> here come the trains, little darlin'
18:42:25  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0005C538:
18:42:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:42:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> well they will take a while to get loaded :P
18:42:45  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hehe :)
18:42:49  <PublicServer> <LoPo> so...
18:42:55  <PublicServer> <LoPo> we need moar
18:42:59  <PublicServer> <LoPo> trains then ;)
18:43:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> undoubtedly
18:45:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> to everyone: when creating new trains, it is a very good move to swap orders of some of them
18:45:10  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah yes
18:45:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> so they dont wave to 1 drop but swap
18:45:24  <PublicServer> <LoPo> otherwise you will temp. "overload" 1 station
18:48:04  <PublicServer> <LoPo> shall i build the factory and FPP?
18:48:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
18:48:16  <PublicServer> <Tray> first train loaded (:
18:48:59  <PublicServer> <LoPo> wtf :S
18:49:05  <PublicServer> <LoPo> site not suitible...
18:49:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> Maraxus: that TF looks like much larger TF than this
18:49:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> ;)
18:49:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> LoPo: factory is green only
18:49:33  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah
18:49:36  <PublicServer> <LoPo> thx :P
18:49:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:50:11  <PublicServer> <LoPo> omg :S
18:52:22  <PublicServer> <Tray> +360k
18:52:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> tell Vinnie :)
18:57:27  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0003D202:
18:57:27  <PublicServer> <Tray> towns are needed at drops
18:57:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
18:57:37  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah ye
18:57:40  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i forgot
18:57:52  <PublicServer> <LoPo> just station walk?
18:57:55  <V453000> !rcon set found_town
18:57:55  <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'found_town' is: '0' (min: 0, max: 2)
18:57:57  <V453000> !rcon set found_town 2
18:58:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> nah
18:58:03  <PublicServer> <Tray> and they need water tower
19:01:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh, it accepts everything already :)
19:01:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> good
19:02:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> LoPo: found your town
19:02:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> you need at least 1 building on desert btw
19:02:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> for the water tower
19:02:41  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye
19:02:45  <PublicServer> <LoPo> just a small one?
19:03:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> any
19:03:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> could be normal
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19:03:57  <PublicServer> <LoPo> k it now accepts water and food
19:04:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> fund new buildings and goods come soon
19:05:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> no need to cage it
19:05:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> it wont build roads itself
19:05:45  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah oky
19:06:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> WHAT
19:06:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> who was that
19:06:24  <PublicServer> <LoPo> what?
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19:07:10  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
19:07:14  <V453000> !rcon server_pw
19:07:14  <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'server_password' is: 'hoists'
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19:07:30  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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19:07:38  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
19:07:46  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
19:07:47  <LoPo> what happend?
19:07:47  <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game
19:07:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> someone dynamited my station
19:08:00  <LoPo> wtf
19:08:10  <Steven> !password
19:08:10  <PublicServer> Steven: blinds
19:08:12  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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19:08:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am not 100% sure if it wasnt me, so I wont blame anyone, but I think I wasnt
19:08:32  <Maraxus> !password
19:08:32  <PublicServer> Maraxus: blinds
19:08:34  <V453000> !auto
19:08:34  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode.
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19:09:03  <Franco> !password
19:09:03  <PublicServer> Franco: blinds
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19:09:19  <Tray> !password
19:09:19  <PublicServer> Tray: blinds
19:09:19  <Franco> !password
19:09:19  <PublicServer> Franco: blinds
19:09:30  <Franco> hmm
19:09:34  <Steven> !password
19:09:34  <PublicServer> Steven: blinds
19:09:35  <Franco> it tells me, "wrong password"
19:09:40  <V453000> read
19:09:42  <Steven> me too
19:09:42  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P
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19:12:26  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0003D9F2:
19:16:51  <PublicServer> <Tray> last year -125M current bank: 25M o:
19:17:08  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye
19:17:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> towns, industries, trains ... :)
19:22:21  <Vinnie_nl> !password
19:22:21  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: sultan
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19:22:53  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hello vinnie
19:22:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello all
19:23:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> just for the comercials :)
19:23:13  <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol
19:24:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> goods/food going
19:25:28  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :O noes! :P
19:25:32  <PublicServer> <LoPo> nice
19:26:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> that food is going to be _rotten_ before the train actually departs :D
19:26:56  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hehe :P
19:27:05  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye they  better freeze it or something
19:27:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> its white ..
19:27:26  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00039A00:
19:27:33  <PublicServer> <Tray> maybe they just make marmelade and cornflakes
19:28:14  <PublicServer> <Tray> who is working around cradock?
19:28:37  <PublicServer> <LoPo> where is that?
19:28:42  <PublicServer> <LoPo> so...i guess it not me ;P
19:28:44  <PublicServer> <Tray> north of my SLH
19:29:03  <PublicServer> <Tray> The guy messed up orders
19:29:13  <PublicServer> <Tray> (whoever the guy is)
19:29:15  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah ye i see it
19:29:17  <PublicServer> <Franco> why SLH01 goes only in 3 directions? is it on purpose?
19:35:06  <Tray> Steven, if you've questions feel free to ask.
19:35:20  <Tray> Franco, I don't see the three direction, what do you mean?
19:36:45  <PublicServer> <Franco> i mean it has a branch to the northwest, but not to the southest
19:36:54  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hello?
19:37:06  <PublicServer> <Franco> what's the minimum curve length for TL7?
19:37:12  <PublicServer> <LoPo> omg lol :P
19:37:12  <PublicServer> <Tray> that's the very standard way of building hubs
19:37:19  <PublicServer> <Tray> it's 7
19:37:26  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i thought the game was stuck :P because a tarin stoped moving
19:37:36  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but it was because of a broken prio
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19:40:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> Steven please communicate
19:40:21  <Tray> Steven?
19:42:26  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00042DED:
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19:49:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> goods train going :
19:50:33  <PublicServer> <Tray> wohoo
19:51:12  <PublicServer> <Tray> alot of income (:
19:51:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> wouldnt be so sure
19:51:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> the goods were waiting for a looong time
19:51:31  <PublicServer> <Tray> hrm
19:51:37  <PublicServer> <Tray> we need more trains!
19:51:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes :)
19:52:55  <PublicServer> <Tray> it's slow
19:54:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> o
19:54:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf
19:54:28  <PublicServer> <Tray> s-bend ahoi (:
19:54:43  <PublicServer> <LoPo> wow
19:54:49  <PublicServer> <Tray> wups
19:54:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
19:55:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> sigh
19:55:37  <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol
19:55:48  <PublicServer> <LoPo> insta load
19:55:56  <PublicServer> <LoPo> drop i mean
19:56:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes those containers have that :)
19:56:14  <PublicServer> <LoPo> its awsome :P
19:56:18  <PublicServer> <LoPo> fast $$$
19:57:26  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00046E87:
19:59:23  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah screw the train "turners"
20:00:37  <PublicServer> <Franco> these TL50 trains are scary
20:00:57  <PublicServer> <LoPo> why?
20:05:27  <TWerkhoven[l]> cause cars have to wait weeks to cross the rails once one of those drives by?
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20:09:12  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i realy like the sound when a bridge is build ^^
20:12:28  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00037697:
20:13:37  <hanf> second to last screenshot is real nice
20:13:52  <PublicServer> <LoPo> what was it shoing?
20:13:54  <PublicServer> <LoPo> omg :P
20:13:58  <PublicServer> <LoPo> showing*
20:14:12  <hanf> some track :P
20:14:24  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hehe :)
20:14:31  <PublicServer> <LoPo> strage tho.... :P
20:14:42  <PublicServer> <Tray> signing primary stations is annoying \:
20:16:13  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hmm
20:17:55  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah finaly :)
20:19:34  <PublicServer> <LoPo> some train aws lost? :P at slh4?
20:21:05  <PublicServer> <LoPo> some1 want to help me connecting some primaries at SLH 04?
20:21:26  <PublicServer> <Tray> I come over when I'm done at slh 02 (:
20:21:46  <PublicServer> <LoPo> will do tray :)
20:27:28  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00032A80:
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20:27:49  <V453000> gnight
20:27:52  <PublicServer> <LoPo> bb
20:28:02  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> gn
20:28:23  <TWerkhoven[l]> gnite V
20:29:08  <PublicServer> <Tray> 22:29
20:29:14  <PublicServer> <LoPo> 22.30
20:29:18  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P
20:29:20  <TWerkhoven[l]> 21:29
20:29:25  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> 22:29
20:29:30  <PublicServer> <Tray> craty mid-europe
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20:35:41  <Dilandau> hello
20:35:43  <Dilandau> !password
20:35:43  <PublicServer> Dilandau: unwell
20:35:44  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi
20:35:50  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
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20:37:16  <PublicServer> <Tray> sign list has a lot of /Tray /Tray /Tray /Tray (:
20:37:26  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P
20:42:29  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000591AF:
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20:52:16  <TWerkhoven> ello
20:52:19  <PublicServer> <LoPo> what are you doing? :P
20:52:21  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi
20:55:19  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> lopo?
20:55:23  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes?
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20:55:33  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> check postmasburg heigts pls
20:56:06  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye that train was lost
20:56:42  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> yes, theres  fix to stop it happening if any other trains get lost like that
20:56:59  <PublicServer> <LoPo> well it was the orders
20:57:02  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i forgot to skip it
20:57:12  <PublicServer> <LoPo> so it wanted to go to drop station
20:57:17  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> i mean so it doest go past the presignal even though theres no free platforms
20:57:19  <PublicServer> <LoPo> was not realy list
20:57:28  <PublicServer> <LoPo> lost*
20:57:29  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00048294:
20:57:58  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ill keep an eye on it :)
20:58:00  <PublicServer> <LoPo> thx  :)
20:58:10  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> nps
20:58:45  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> its a good habit to put a diagonal  piece behind every terminus-track, like i did at postmasburg north just now
20:58:55  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye i know
20:58:57  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> which also had a train waiting in the same way
20:59:01  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> :)
20:59:49  <PublicServer> <LoPo> wtf
20:59:55  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> o_O
21:00:01  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> tl50 train on sl you mean?
21:00:07  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye
21:00:13  <PublicServer> <LoPo> omg
21:00:17  <PublicServer> <LoPo> 2!!!
21:00:21  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> just saw that one myself
21:00:40  <PublicServer> <LoPo> something is worng at "short station west'
21:01:41  <PublicServer> <LoPo> or :P
21:01:50  <PublicServer> <LoPo> at my hub :P
21:02:06  <PublicServer> <LoPo> omg
21:02:08  <PublicServer> <LoPo> found it
21:02:14  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> missing overhead cable?
21:02:16  <PublicServer> <LoPo> missing track
21:02:26  <PublicServer> <LoPo> at here
21:02:31  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P
21:02:37  <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol
21:02:41  <PublicServer> <LoPo> epic fail :P
21:02:47  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> that'll be it then
21:04:57  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> suddenly west station looks a lot better too
21:05:18  <PublicServer> <LoPo> the x candy?
21:05:25  <PublicServer> <LoPo> or just trains etc..
21:05:33  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> meant cargo waiting, but yes candy is very nice
21:06:39  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hehe i like the name of the little town near east drop :)
21:07:05  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> hehe
21:12:29  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0004E231:
21:20:39  <PublicServer> <LoPo> wth
21:20:57  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> ?
21:21:19  <PublicServer> <LoPo> bring some of those goods to east :P
21:22:12  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah yes :)
21:22:18  <PublicServer> <LoPo> he will take it all >_<
21:22:40  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> the advantage of tl50 trains
21:22:50  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> it takes a lot of cargo to fill it
21:23:16  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P
21:23:20  <PublicServer> <LoPo> gone
21:24:05  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye
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21:29:04  <PublicServer> <LoPo> did i missed something?
21:29:24  <PublicServer> <Tray> what do you mean?
21:29:34  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i was afk for some min
21:29:45  <PublicServer> <Tray> I killed planes
21:29:59  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :)
21:33:46  <PublicServer> <LoPo> we also transport oil now?
21:34:00  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ow we already did
21:34:06  <PublicServer> <Tray> we always did?
21:34:25  <PublicServer> <Tray> Steven, please use the general chat instead of the team chat
21:34:27  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah :P i forgot to build the refinery at east :P
21:34:59  <PublicServer> <Tray> the general chat is streamed to IRC, what's quite nice to reread discussions and stuff
21:35:36  <Steven> okay
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21:50:32  <PublicServer> <Tray> another SLH at SLH 03 going north would be nice
21:51:11  <PublicServer> <LoPo> we can connect some of the primaries to slh4
21:51:47  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but a new slh wouldalso be nice idd
21:52:12  <PublicServer> <Tray> but not all of them and there is a lot of space for other SLHs
21:54:52  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> sleep time - cu
21:54:56  <PublicServer> <LoPo> bb
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21:58:52  <PublicServer> <LoPo> shall  we build that SLH?
22:03:43  <PublicServer> <LoPo> make a seperat line for east and west merges
22:04:37  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P
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22:06:46  <PublicServer> <LoPo> teamwork ftw!
22:06:58  <Steven> yeah!
22:07:33  <PublicServer> <Tray> Okay,  good night.
22:07:44  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bye, Tray.
22:07:44  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hehe :) thx and good night
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22:09:04  <PublicServer> <LoPo> SLH 05 can also need some primaries connected now :)
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22:11:28  <Vinnie_nl> gn all
22:11:31  <PublicServer> <LoPo> bb
22:11:35  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> gn
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22:11:41  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> i is going as well
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22:17:53  <PublicServer> <LoPo> steven?
22:17:59  <PublicServer> <LoPo> are you still here?
22:18:09  <Steven> yes
22:18:11  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> need help ?
22:18:18  <Steven> no
22:18:29  <PublicServer> <LoPo> check one of your exits :P
22:18:40  <PublicServer> <LoPo> it has a 90 degree turn :P
22:18:46  <PublicServer> <LoPo> almost
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22:32:32  <PublicServer> <LoPo> omg
22:32:38  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> ?
22:32:44  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i cloned oil traisn for water pickup :P
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22:53:58  <XeryusTC> lo
22:54:07  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi
22:56:33  <Mazur> Hi X
22:56:41  <Mazur> That;s two full hands.
22:56:51  <XeryusTC> yes, yes it is
22:57:05  <XeryusTC> unfortunately most inuendos dont work so well over the webs
22:57:29  <Mazur> 3 october celebrations over ehre.
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22:57:49  <XeryusTC> birthday celebration just passed
22:57:54  <XeryusTC> we have a _huge_ apple pie
22:57:58  <XeryusTC> home made by my mom <3
22:58:05  <Mazur> X: One can achieve a lot by choosing the exact right words.
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22:58:20  <Mazur> Mine's in 1 days or so.
22:58:23  <Mazur> 11
22:58:30  <XeryusTC> nice
22:59:14  <PublicServer> <LoPo> that is not good ;P
22:59:20  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> ?
22:59:22  <Mazur> But I'm already feeling celebratory, I bought CM 2008 and FM 2008 2nd hand from aAmazon.
22:59:31  <XeryusTC> hmm?
22:59:34  <PublicServer> <LoPo> food train at SLH 05
22:59:46  <Mazur> Taking the turn off?
23:00:01  <XeryusTC> what's CM and FM 2008?
23:00:19  <Mazur> Championship Manager/ Football Manager.
23:00:38  <Mazur> Those are the two successors of Championship Manager.
23:01:07  <Mazur> One from the creators and one from the Games Company.
23:01:13  <XeryusTC> hmm
23:01:18  <XeryusTC> i should ban you for liking football
23:01:25  <Mazur> :-D
23:01:33  <Mazur> But I don;t.
23:01:40  <Mazur> Really.
23:01:43  <XeryusTC> you play football manager
23:01:50  <Mazur> Used to in hte 70s.
23:02:04  <Mazur> Yes, I like the game.
23:02:22  <Mazur> I get to boss (virtual) people around.
23:02:39  <Mazur> And be the best.
23:02:47  <Mazur> By vitruous cheating.
23:02:51  <Mazur> :-D
23:02:56  <Mazur> s/tr/rt/
23:03:28  <XeryusTC> xD
23:03:33  <XeryusTC> i get to boss real people around
23:03:43  <XeryusTC> on the server this channel belongs to ;)
23:03:59  <Mazur> Ah, like I used to.
23:04:07  <Mazur> A bit.
23:04:24  <XeryusTC> i think i was worse when i was still 17 :P
23:04:25  <XeryusTC> or 18
23:04:49  <XeryusTC> and saying that just made me realise that i have spend at least 5 years here :o
23:05:05  <Mazur> In openttd?
23:05:10  <Mazur> Or on IRC?
23:05:12  <Mazur> ;-)
23:05:35  <XeryusTC> #openttdcoop
23:07:22  <PublicServer> <LoPo> south part of SLH 01 is still empty :p
23:11:49  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> good night
23:12:03  <PublicServer> <LoPo> gn
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23:13:31  <PublicServer> <LoPo> im also going :)
23:13:34  <PublicServer> <LoPo> see you guys
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23:27:18  <theos> !password
23:27:18  <PublicServer> theos: goofed
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23:28:30  <PublicServer> <Theos> brb in 20
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