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Log for #openttdcoop on 14th October 2011:
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00:00:03  <PublicServer> <LoPo> plz sign your work :)
00:00:05  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> Sonningpool
00:00:11  <PublicServer> <LoPo> with /name
00:00:21  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> There is a sign
00:00:36  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ? :P
00:01:08  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> says network by Xotic750
00:01:18  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah
00:01:28  <PublicServer> <LoPo> and your town
00:01:36  <PublicServer> <LoPo> is not in the mountains
00:01:51  <PublicServer> <LoPo> so it doesnt grow when you deliver food
00:02:04  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> No, by a lake, not much land though
00:02:20  <PublicServer> <LoPo> why dont you tkae Drudstone
00:02:22  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> oh
00:02:36  <PublicServer> <LoPo> just remove the plan of mazur
00:02:47  <PublicServer> <LoPo> do you see that town?
00:03:01  <PublicServer> <LoPo>
00:03:10  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yes
00:03:29  <PublicServer> <LoPo> build your food supplie there and connect it to the ML :)
00:03:36  <PublicServer> <LoPo> and so on :)
00:03:38  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so I should stop delivering goods to the other then
00:03:42  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye
00:03:57  <PublicServer> <LoPo> its also not according to the Network plan anyways :P
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00:04:40  <Xotic750> I was told that I should not connect farms/food to the ML
00:04:49  <PublicServer> <LoPo> nono
00:04:53  <PublicServer> <LoPo> not farm/food
00:05:00  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> or that's what I understood
00:05:00  <PublicServer> <LoPo> mail
00:05:12  <PublicServer> <LoPo> come to Gronston
00:05:22  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ill show you what i mean
00:05:34  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok, looking
00:05:38  <PublicServer> <LoPo> k
00:05:44  <PublicServer> <LoPo> so there are 2 networks
00:05:48  <PublicServer> <LoPo> food and mail
00:06:02  <PublicServer> <LoPo> do you see the tracks at the snow border
00:06:15  <PublicServer> <LoPo> thats the ML for mail only
00:06:21  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yes
00:06:32  <PublicServer> <LoPo> the transfer station i build
00:06:36  <PublicServer> <LoPo> steam powered mail
00:06:46  <PublicServer> <LoPo> collects al the mail from Gronston
00:06:52  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> west station?
00:06:52  <PublicServer> <LoPo> see that?
00:06:56  <PublicServer> <LoPo> y
00:06:58  <PublicServer> <LoPo> e
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00:07:12  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi Mazur
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00:07:16  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Lo Po.
00:07:18  <PublicServer> <LoPo> and look
00:07:20  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi
00:07:28  <PublicServer> <LoPo> lopo? :P
00:07:57  <PublicServer> <LoPo> there is the ICE train that takes the mail and will bring it to another big town
00:08:34  <PublicServer> <LoPo> the second network
00:08:37  <PublicServer> <LoPo> is food delivvery
00:08:45  <PublicServer> <LoPo> do you see the long steam trains?
00:08:49  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so each of the little stations is picking up mail
00:08:51  <PublicServer> <LoPo> west?
00:08:53  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes
00:09:29  <PublicServer> <LoPo> the small trains pick up mail and trasfer it to the big station
00:09:46  <PublicServer> <LoPo> there ICE trains will pick it up and bring it to other towns
00:10:02  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok
00:10:25  <PublicServer> <LoPo> k :)
00:10:40  <PublicServer> <LoPo> that is the first network with the ML and so on
00:10:48  <PublicServer> <LoPo> the second is food
00:10:54  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so the platforms need to be 4 long for mail?
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00:11:03  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes
00:11:13  <PublicServer> <LoPo> becuase all ICE are the same
00:11:40  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok, so I have a clearer picture now
00:11:50  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P
00:12:08  <PublicServer> <LoPo> and the second network you probably already understand :)
00:12:38  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I think so
00:12:48  <PublicServer> <LoPo> its just food delivery
00:12:58  <PublicServer> <LoPo> as what you did with that town before
00:13:16  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yep
00:13:40  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I didn't understand the mail ML until now :)
00:13:48  <PublicServer> <LoPo> nice
00:14:07  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> thanks
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00:15:28  <PublicServer> <LoPo> wow 7k pop already :P
00:16:47  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> it's time to power on my Mail station :p
00:16:53  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hehe
00:21:11  <Mazur> AC or SC?
00:21:13  <Mazur> DC
00:21:34  <LoPo> ?
00:21:45  <LoPo> ACDC :)
00:21:55  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> balls
00:21:59  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hehe
00:22:05  <PublicServer> <LoPo> be carefull with that
00:22:07  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> :D
00:22:17  <PublicServer> <LoPo> building trees also helps
00:22:20  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I just wanted to build the station
00:25:43  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> ???
00:26:05  <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol!
00:26:15  <PublicServer> <LoPo> fail :P
00:26:19  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> who ?
00:26:26  <PublicServer> <LoPo> you
00:26:30  <PublicServer> <LoPo> crashed
00:26:34  <PublicServer> <LoPo> trains :P
00:26:36  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> no
00:26:56  <PublicServer> <LoPo> then what happend?
00:27:09  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> i do not know
00:27:19  <PublicServer> <LoPo> they just crased
00:27:22  <PublicServer> <LoPo> crashed*
00:27:29  <PublicServer> <LoPo> somehow?
00:27:48  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> i removed a signal on the other lane, not on this one
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00:48:53  <PublicServer> <LoPo> damn these BBH are realy difficult to comprehend :S
00:50:04  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> need more space :x
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01:05:02  <PublicServer> <LoPo> how is it going Xotic?
01:08:11  <Xotic750> getting there
01:08:24  <Xotic750> had a problem with some rolling stock though
01:08:35  <Xotic750> it wouldn't load with food
01:08:40  <Xotic750> so I had to change it
01:08:51  <PublicServer> <LoPo> k
01:09:15  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> now going to start some mail connections
01:12:36  <ChrisHC> !password
01:12:36  <PublicServer> ChrisHC: denial
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01:12:59  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hello
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01:16:50  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hmmm
01:17:02  <PublicServer> <LoPo> my city is growing nicely :)
01:17:43  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> :)
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01:31:20  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hmmm
01:31:24  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> ?
01:31:33  <PublicServer> <LoPo> jam at V's trasfer :S
01:31:46  <PublicServer> <LoPo> transfer*
01:32:21  <Mazur> Pretty women make us buy beer. Ugly women make us drink beer.
01:32:32  <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol
01:32:32  <Mazur> - AL Bundy.
01:32:51  <PublicServer> <LoPo> beer rules :P
01:34:12  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hmmm
01:38:44  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hmm
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01:45:37  <PublicServer> <LoPo> there we go :)
01:45:44  <PublicServer> <LoPo> jams fixed
01:56:12  <PublicServer> <LoPo> k time for some sleep :p
01:56:19  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> same ^^
01:56:22  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> good night
01:56:35  <PublicServer> <LoPo> you to :)
01:56:40  <PublicServer> <LoPo> laters!
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02:49:13  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> good night
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02:57:00  <Xotic750> G'night
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03:30:25  <BigElephant> !password
03:30:25  <PublicServer> BigElephant: shiver
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08:09:41  <sturmi> !password
08:09:41  <PublicServer> sturmi: shiver
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08:25:39  <V453000> !password
08:25:39  <PublicServer> V453000: roster
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08:28:08  <V453000> :)
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08:43:52  <LXSJason> !password
08:43:53  <PublicServer> LXSJason: roster
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08:45:42  <AcidWeb> Hello
08:45:49  <PublicServer> <LXSJason> o/
08:51:32  <AcidWeb> Im here with one small question. There are any "alive", publicly available and up-to-date server wrapper other than AP+?
08:54:17  <AcidWeb> openttd-python is as i can see dead. xShunter is a spectrum ;p
08:54:28  <AcidWeb> I missed something?
08:55:10  <planetmaker> openttd-python is a library which supposedly works
08:55:28  <planetmaker> it's not a bot to connect to a server, though. It's just a library to make writing of one easier
08:55:38  <AcidWeb> partially
08:55:40  <planetmaker> hm... or I mix up names
08:55:46  <planetmaker> is it the one by xaroth?
08:55:53  <AcidWeb> Some tools there work. But client can't connect 1.1.3 server.
08:56:12  <planetmaker> ah, no. libottdadmin
08:56:21  <planetmaker> https://bitbucket.org/Xaroth/libottdadmin/changeset/b401d6d97488
08:56:22  <Webster> Title: Xaroth / libottdadmin / changeset / b401d6d97488 Bitbucket (at bitbucket.org)
08:56:31  <planetmaker> and there's joan
08:56:37  <AcidWeb> Im talking about http://code.google.com/p/openttd-python/
08:56:39  <dihedral> here
08:56:50  <AcidWeb> Hmm Joan.
08:56:51  <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/joan <--
08:56:55  <AcidWeb> JAVA.
08:56:58  <AcidWeb> ok.
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08:57:16  <dihedral> wrapping openttd is quite limited
08:57:32  <dihedral> which is why there now is a tcp interface, using a binary protocol
08:57:33  <planetmaker> AcidWeb: if you want python, build on libottdadmin
08:57:36  <planetmaker> it's python, too
08:57:54  <planetmaker> Otherwise, the probably more elaborate one is joan which has also an example implemetntation of a bot
08:57:57  <dihedral> with that interface you have way more detail and more control
08:58:20  <dihedral> and java is not _that_ hard
08:58:47  <planetmaker> it's just oracle :-P
08:58:57  <AcidWeb> I just stated: JAVA. Not "OH NO JAVA RAWR" ;d
08:59:05  <dihedral> :-P
08:59:41  <dihedral> i chose java because it's quite simple to distribute (amongst others)
09:01:10  <AcidWeb> To be honest i "just" want goal support. And im looking for options on what "wrapper" i will have less job. Language don't matter.
09:01:50  <dihedral> no wrapper will give you goal support
09:03:46  <AcidWeb> I know that i need to write them myself. After some searching I noticed that goal scripts top secret and are taboo ;d
09:03:53  <planetmaker> well... one could add some goal support by a wrapper. It could query the key parameters for the goals and call it quits when it's reached
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09:10:10  <dihedral> but it's not very accurate
09:10:34  <dihedral> i.e. by the time the wrapper polls, 2 companies could have reached the goal
09:12:21  <AcidWeb> So i guess most of goal servers modify server code?
09:15:03  <dihedral> aye
09:16:47  <AcidWeb> I understand. Competition. But why that patchsets are not in main openttd branch? -.-
09:19:01  <planetmaker> you have to ask those authors
09:19:26  <planetmaker> some don't want it. And a proper goal framework within openttd - highly welcome. But a proper one please and not a quick hack for a single goal
09:20:05  <planetmaker> and... the openttd main channel is #openttd :-)
09:20:25  <AcidWeb> heh
09:20:28  <Vinnie_nl> !password
09:20:28  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: roster
09:20:34  <AcidWeb> Anyway thank you for help.
09:20:50  <AcidWeb> I will see how laggy will be AP+ goal script.
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09:21:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nice
09:22:04  <AcidWeb> BTW all openttdcoop servers pause when are empty?
09:22:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
09:22:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> at least 2 active people needed
09:23:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmm someone really went beserk. The low TF limit has been abused
09:24:36  <AcidWeb> Bye.
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09:24:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya
09:24:47  <planetmaker> well, I just mentioned it... people... just discuss goals there...
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09:40:12  <LoPo> haha!
09:40:15  <LoPo> morning
09:40:26  <LoPo> !password
09:40:26  <PublicServer> LoPo: sagest
09:40:45  <dihedral> i would love to see goal handling accessible through the admin protocol :-)
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09:41:52  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ey can some1 connect? so i can play a little?
09:47:10  <LoPo> is some1 awake?
09:49:56  <LoPo> !unpause
09:49:56  <PublicServer> LoPo: you must be channel op to use !unpause
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10:00:26  <Vinnie_nl> !password
10:00:26  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: chicer
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10:00:45  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes!
10:00:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :D
10:00:59  <PublicServer> <LoPo> thx dude :p
10:01:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> did you tf that valley near Sutbourne Bridge?
10:02:14  <PublicServer> <LoPo> not realy
10:02:36  <PublicServer> <LoPo> maybe a litte at the ML
10:04:47  <PublicServer> <LoPo> why do you wonder? :P
10:05:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i thought we had a minimal TF limita and someone cut the mountain in 2
10:10:20  <V453000> !password
10:10:20  <PublicServer> V453000: chicer
10:10:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi there
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10:10:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey
10:10:48  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hello :)
10:11:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> towns grow nicely :)
10:11:13  <PublicServer> <LoPo> indeed
10:12:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> LoPo: it is nice that you fixed something, but one note: !this signal must not be there
10:12:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> else it can deadlock
10:12:13  <PublicServer> <LoPo> food productions is also nice ha Vinnie
10:12:39  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah yes
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10:16:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> uhm LoPo did you make entrance from the right ML direction to your station?
10:16:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see only exit that way
10:17:00  <PublicServer> <LoPo> not yet
10:17:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
10:17:24  <PublicServer> <LoPo> as i told before
10:17:39  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i first wanted to see how the trains are going
10:17:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont understand there
10:17:52  <PublicServer> <LoPo> and if they take to much time to get back
10:17:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> why wouldnt you get all proper choices
10:18:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> that isnt about get back, but about system
10:18:26  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :)
10:18:39  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i got the solution :P
10:18:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> when we have many towns and some lack connections, it is not too nice to search who did something wrong
10:19:27  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i wanted to build an expantion anyways
10:19:41  <PublicServer> <LoPo> now that will be the station in the other direction :)
10:20:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> then it should have been done right in the start
10:20:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> ;)
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10:30:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> whoever made such orders, -leave empty- makes no sense for towns );
10:30:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> ;)
10:30:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> common die you forrest
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10:34:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> stupid town ... new buildings in city center -> no more food acceptance ...
10:34:50  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :D
10:37:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmm could be called a MSH
10:37:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> sort of
10:37:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> but no need
10:44:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie>  @@(clcalc erail 160)
10:44:42  <Webster> PublicServer: Required CL for rail at 160km/h is 3 (5 half tiles) or TL
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10:49:24  <Dilandau> hello
10:49:28  <Dilandau> !password
10:49:28  <PublicServer> Dilandau: ricing
10:49:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hey
10:49:43  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi
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10:52:15  <PublicServer> <LoPo> damn i realy need to go :P
10:52:25  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but this game is so nice ;P
10:52:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :D cya
10:52:43  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> cya
10:54:09  <PublicServer> <LoPo> oky bye
10:54:15  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> ++
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10:55:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> lunch time
10:55:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> later
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10:56:04  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> bye ^^
10:56:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya
10:57:57  <Xotic750> !password
10:57:57  <PublicServer> Xotic750: ricing
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10:58:24  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmm what to do now
10:58:28  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> Hi
10:58:31  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey
10:59:34  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> i try to increase the traffic
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11:02:04  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> too late :(
11:02:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you do the oposite :D
11:03:19  <BigElephant> !password
11:03:20  <PublicServer> BigElephant: rabies
11:04:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nice 2 mail a month
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11:05:13  <PublicServer> <BigElephant> hello
11:05:17  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi
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11:05:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey
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11:08:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie>  @@(clcalc erail 112)
11:08:08  <Webster> PublicServer: Required CL for rail at 112km/h is 2 (3 half tiles) or TL
11:08:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :D
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11:11:53  <pugi> up to about 130 for cl2
11:12:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> erail or rail?
11:12:14  <pugi> rail and erail is the same
11:12:19  <Xotic750> !password
11:12:19  <PublicServer> Xotic750: rabies
11:12:20  <pugi> @clcalc rail 130
11:12:21  <Webster> pugi: Required CL for rail at 130km/h is 2 (3 half tiles) or TL
11:12:25  <pugi> wait...
11:12:27  <pugi> @clcalc rail 2
11:12:27  <Webster> pugi: A rail Curve Length of 2 (3 half tiles) gives a speed of 132km/h or 82mph
11:12:29  <pugi> this :D
11:12:32  <pugi> i wanted
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11:34:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya
11:34:09  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> cya
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11:53:31  <madmax> !password
11:53:31  <PublicServer> madmax: morned
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12:05:21  <madmax> !download
12:05:21  <PublicServer> madmax: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
12:05:21  <PublicServer> madmax: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r22950
12:05:35  <pugi> get openttd autoupdate :D
12:05:52  <madmax> why i cant connect?
12:09:20  <V453000> @quickstart
12:09:21  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
12:09:25  <V453000> ^ most likely answered there
12:09:35  <V453000> and hi :)
12:12:01  <madmax> hi, i dont know engliush well
12:13:01  <madmax> !password
12:13:01  <PublicServer> madmax: flares
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13:17:53  <Vinnie_nl> !playercount
13:17:53  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: Number of players: 3 (0 spectators)
13:18:00  <Vinnie_nl> !password
13:18:01  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: hoaxes
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13:18:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
13:18:26  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> wb
13:19:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> can i help anyone?
13:19:59  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> mmm i think no for me (i can't expand Treninghall ^^)
13:20:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Brondworth Falls: west is interesting
13:20:18  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> t*
13:20:24  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nothing like the plan
13:21:08  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> mmmmmmm yes
13:21:11  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> strange
13:21:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Who made that?
13:21:25  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its a coal route
13:21:40  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> i
13:21:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we have a game plan sviboorg. coal is not in it
13:22:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> please build according to the gameplan
13:22:16  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> i play first time
13:22:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ohh
13:22:29  <Dilandau> @quickstart
13:22:30  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
13:23:09  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> where i can see plan?)
13:23:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> http://wiki.openttd.org/Sign#Sign_list
13:23:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> then i give you the name of the sign
13:23:48  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> north of Faningbury
13:23:50  <PublicServer> <Vinnie>  !! NETWORK PLAN !!
13:23:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the top one
13:24:21  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> oh
13:24:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> found it?
13:24:25  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> eah
13:25:15  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> that would be required to translate it for half a day :D
13:25:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> why? your english is good
13:26:11  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> its not my english
13:26:30  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> its google translate
13:26:43  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what country are you from?
13:26:55  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> russia
13:27:26  <V453000> !password
13:27:26  <PublicServer> V453000: hoaxes
13:27:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> let me sum it up in the irc channel for you.
13:27:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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13:27:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey
13:27:41  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi
13:28:15  <Vinnie_nl> we transport only mail we create towns in the snowline
13:28:15  <Vinnie_nl> so no coal routes in the game
13:28:34  <madmax> why?
13:28:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> o_O
13:28:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Brondworth Falls: West
13:29:06  <madmax> can add them to the plan?)
13:29:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> obey the plan instead :p
13:29:34  <madmax> oh
13:29:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> madmax = sviboorg?
13:29:55  <madmax> yes
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13:30:33  <madmax> and what do I do?
13:30:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> also in the @@quickstart. please make sure the IRC name is equal to the ingame name
13:30:46  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
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13:31:12  <KenjiE20> technically it's in ruleset, but that's in the req. reading on QS
13:31:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets remove the coal line together
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13:32:30  <sviboorg> ok?
13:44:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: why do you transfer food with RVs ...
13:44:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> easy
13:44:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> why
13:44:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but i could also use a station walk
13:44:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> there just is no reason for transfer
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13:47:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> same for drundstone ...
13:48:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> why :(
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13:49:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> who is building Drudstone anyway?
13:49:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> Xotic750 ?
13:49:20  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> not me
13:49:30  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not me
13:49:32  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yep
13:49:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> why do you use tram transfer
13:50:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> for food
13:50:06  <Xotic750> I'm not
13:50:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> also I dont see passengers in the plan
13:50:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh thats mail, sorry
13:50:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> and trains crash trams :)
13:50:47  <Xotic750> I'm not alound to transport people around my town?
13:50:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> the passengers are the main wtf to me
13:50:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> why, and where would you transport them?
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13:51:33  <Xotic750> I'll get rid of them then, they can walk to the centre :)
13:52:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> you will need to demolish all stations and rebuild them as a new one in order to make them stop accepting people
13:52:36  <Xotic750> does that matter?
13:53:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is annoying at least I would say
13:53:42  <Xotic750> I thought the towns looked more realistic with a little traffic in them, oh well
13:53:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> realistic?
13:54:20  <Xotic750> yeah, there is always traffic in a town
13:54:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> okay
13:54:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is a game as far as I know
13:54:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> and a very unrealistic game
13:54:39  <Xotic750> but anyway, if it's not allowed on the plan
13:54:50  <Xotic750> but it's like eye candy to me
13:55:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> but what would you do with the passengers ...
13:55:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> nothing
13:55:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> they have no use
13:55:40  <Xotic750> no, they are travelling into centre and out to outskirts
13:55:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> how is that good for the game over all
13:56:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> not to mention some useless vehicles
13:56:12  <Xotic750> it looks like there is life there
13:56:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
13:56:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> mail trams are bad life?
13:57:48  <Xotic750> I'll get rid of my little passenger trams and stations
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14:02:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> wow Chudhall farm is getting a lot of rails
14:04:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> sviboorg: expecting _huge_ productions?
14:05:10  <KenjiE20> Xotic750: eyecandy shouldn't be stuff that involves active vehicles in anyway
14:05:27  <KenjiE20> passive stuff in eyecandy @@tmd is about the limit
14:05:28  <Webster> tmd: Traction Maintenance Depot, occasionally added as eyecandy to coop games, see also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traction_maintenance_depot
14:05:41  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I didn't realise
14:05:59  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but now I know
14:06:26  <KenjiE20> when you involve active vehicles, you are essentially building things as part of the plan
14:06:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> sviboorg: communicate please
14:07:17  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> Do I need roads then as I am not using any road vehicles?
14:07:24  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> what?
14:07:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> Xotic750: towns need to grow near roads
14:07:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> sviboorg: read what I told you
14:07:51  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok
14:07:57  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> oh, i dont see that
14:08:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> what dont you see
14:08:25  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> a lot of rails is a problem?
14:08:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> you dont need them at all
14:08:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> look how small stations work
14:09:35  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> not interested in building small station
14:09:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> by the way you connected it to the wrong line
14:09:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> look, we build -somehow-. Can I ask you to adapt?
14:11:33  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> why in wrong way? to nuntburg
14:11:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
14:11:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> trains cannot drop cargo from that direction
14:12:04  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> i dont finish
14:12:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> why dont you drop it at FPP Mid Valley Drop anyway
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14:16:23  <V453000> later
14:16:32  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> cya
14:17:01  <V453000> please give some hints to the new players ;)
14:17:05  <V453000> or .. keep an eye :p
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14:20:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> CL issue whoever is building near FPP Nuntburg Pickup
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14:29:15  <V453000> wtf? he really connected it there?
14:29:24  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> y
14:29:29  <V453000> ...
14:29:31  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i am changing some stuff now
14:29:47  <V453000> please help sviboorg get more "adapted"
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14:31:00  <Vinnie_nl> figures
14:31:04  <Vinnie_nl> !password
14:31:04  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: falser
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14:33:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ok ready for trains
14:34:39  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> what trains use?
14:34:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> speed below 160 and 3  till 5 tiles long
14:35:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> kmph that is
14:35:21  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> I'm afraid you have everything here on the plan)
14:36:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> pick a train and i say if it is ok
14:36:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> if you dont mind
14:36:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> non -stop order please
14:37:24  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> nonstop?
14:37:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Yes
14:37:41  <KenjiE20> @wiki Orders
14:37:42  <Webster> KenjiE20: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Orders
14:37:43  <Webster> KenjiE20: << Trains | ^^ Back to Building Guides Index | How not to build >>
14:38:31  <KenjiE20> silly guide layout text :p
14:39:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now the second train
14:39:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> http://wiki.openttd.org/Copy_orders#Copying_orders
14:39:14  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> like it?))
14:39:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> shared orders are a must
14:39:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you must insert shared orders and it is ok
14:40:39  <KenjiE20> ^ part of ruleset
14:40:44  <KenjiE20> you should really really read through @@quickstart and it's links
14:40:45  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
14:40:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> maybe time for @@slowstart
14:40:59  <Webster> Read everything on the wiki, and I mean everything
14:41:43  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> I find it hard to read I do not know English
14:42:27  <KenjiE20> well since English is lingua-franca of this channel and communication is key to coop, you're gonna struggle, I'm afraid
14:42:30  <V453000> then download savegames
14:42:47  <V453000> and as KenjiE20 said, unfortunately
14:44:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no shared orders sviboorg so it may not leave depot
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14:46:04  <Vinnie_nl> translate this webpage please
14:46:06  <Vinnie_nl> http://wiki.openttd.org/Copy_orders#Copying_orders
14:47:25  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> i dont know what in Shared Orders wrong
14:47:51  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> you say nonstop i do it nonstop
14:49:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> non-stop is good.
14:49:30  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you only have not yet done shared orders
14:50:12  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> why? see train 312
14:50:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> try copying a train with ctrl pressed. then look at the orderlist
14:51:30  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> compare the orderlist of train 181 with train 312
14:51:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> do you see the differentce
14:52:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> difference*
14:52:21  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> no)
14:52:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> last line says. End of orders or end of shared orders
14:53:01  <PublicServer> <sviboorg> oh
14:53:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now the livestock trains
14:55:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ok
14:55:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> shared orders again
14:58:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> use train 181 his go-to order and click on train 313. But keep ctrl pressed
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15:01:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> are you still here?
15:01:47  <Vinnie_nl> !screen
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15:04:57  <Vinnie_nl> !screen
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15:14:26  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> bye bye
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15:15:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Xotic750: where you building?
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15:15:21  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> drunstone
15:15:31  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> fixing the trams
15:15:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke
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15:16:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so what is the plan to fix it?
15:17:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> why not only trains instead of trams?
15:18:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> may i help?
15:20:41  <Xotic750> sure
15:20:56  <Xotic750> just having fun
15:21:07  <Xotic750> using different vehicles
15:21:18  <Xotic750> never played with trams before
15:22:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that is not helping sorry
15:23:07  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> :)
15:23:35  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I have to go for 30 mins, have to make food
15:23:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ke
15:23:57  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> will be interested to see what you do
15:24:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nothing atm
15:24:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> trains in the way :D
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15:28:40  <Mazur> !password
15:28:40  <PublicServer> Mazur: idiocy
15:28:44  <Mazur> Quite right.
15:28:46  <KenjiE20> how ap
15:28:48  <KenjiE20> apt*
15:29:17  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> incoming dutchman
15:29:28  <KenjiE20> *battle cry*
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15:29:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
15:29:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Tada!
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15:31:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nw what to break next
15:31:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Dontbridge hads no local network yet.
15:32:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> well some new players have been arround
15:32:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, it has three stations, all unsigned.
15:32:56  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Pity, in a way, I'd have loved to see someone use the narrow snowline towards the ML to connect that snowy area.
15:33:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wanna do it ?
15:33:31  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, then I'd have to start and take care of it throughout the game.
15:34:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And I'm still too distracted for that.
15:34:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> distracted?
15:35:08  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Other games, movies/series to watch.
15:35:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> movies :D
15:36:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> My set-top box' disk is nearly full, I have to start watchinfg some of that stuff to keep up with what I want to record for later vision.
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15:37:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Last night I saw a good one about nuclear fusion discovery, the CIA tried to suppres its discovery to hte world, presumably to maintain US dominance in hte energy market.
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15:37:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> souds like a documantary
15:39:02  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, it was about a tech and a physicist on the run from killers for their very life, who also wanted to throw all hte details of the discovery in the open, so everyone could get free energy.
15:41:45  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Even more fun would be to bridge !here to connect that little islan of snow, as well as use the corridor.
15:42:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> create a town on there?
15:43:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hm, no, natural growth would jump via the bridge.
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15:46:15  <aldor> !password
15:46:15  <PublicServer> aldor: auburn
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15:46:30  <PublicServer> <aldor> hi
15:46:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey
15:46:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> rodla.
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15:46:58  <PublicServer> <aldor> nice progress, guys)
15:47:43  <Dilandau> !password
15:47:43  <PublicServer> Dilandau: auburn
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15:48:22  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi ^^
15:48:29  <PublicServer> <aldor> hey)
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15:58:34  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> Back for a little while
15:59:14  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> Did you review the town/network?
15:59:27  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> @Vinnie that was
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16:02:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> only the trains
16:02:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> trams are useless imo
16:02:42  <Xotic750> did you check the farms and FPP
16:02:50  <Xotic750> yeah, probably
16:02:54  <Xotic750> but was having fun
16:03:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its enough for the moment
16:03:04  <Xotic750> and that's a little what games are about
16:03:06  <Xotic750> :)
16:03:38  <Xotic750> any/all advice is good when learning
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16:41:07  <Benny> !players
16:41:10  <PublicServer> Benny: Client 1540 (Orange) is Dilandau, in company 1 (Findingworth Falls Transport)
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16:41:15  <Benny> !revision
16:41:15  <PublicServer> Benny: Game version is r22950
16:41:16  <Benny> !date
16:41:24  <Benny> ...Wrong command?
16:42:35  <ChrisHC> !password
16:42:35  <PublicServer> ChrisHC: quarts
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16:45:18  <PublicServer> Benny: fables
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16:48:53  <PublicServer> Dilandau: fables
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18:10:45  <PublicServer> Maraxus: pimple
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18:11:18  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
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19:49:55  <pugi> !password
19:49:55  <PublicServer> pugi: fleshy
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19:50:10  <Vinnie_nl> !playercount
19:50:10  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: Number of players: 4 (0 spectators)
19:50:14  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hello
19:50:20  <PublicServer> <pugi> hello :D
19:50:30  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
19:54:05  <Vinnie_nl> !password
19:54:05  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: fleshy
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19:54:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
19:54:44  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
19:54:48  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> Hi
19:55:26  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi Vinnie
19:55:36  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I have a little problem with Sonningpool Heights
19:55:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets see
19:55:50  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> It is supposed to be livestock only
19:56:03  <PublicServer> <pugi> a wheat train stopped there once probably
19:56:11  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yes
19:56:31  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but I tried deleting it but I don't seem to be able to get rid of it
19:57:30  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok, that look to have fixed it :)
19:57:40  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> thanks
19:57:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i know thats why i did it :p
19:58:17  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I
19:58:29  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I'm not sure what you did different to me though
19:58:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i build a new station
19:58:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> completly with new name
19:59:05  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> That was what I tried but without success
19:59:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it was still named sonningpool heights now its called sonningpool transfer
19:59:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> did you build a station with cntl pressed?
19:59:53  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but why when I recreated was it using the same name?
20:00:05  <pugi> because it is a feature
20:00:13  <pugi> if you accidentally delete the station
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20:00:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> try building a station with cntl pressed
20:00:30  <pugi> and want it back without all the orders being f'd up :D
20:00:32  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I didn't use ctrl
20:00:43  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> thanks
20:07:49  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> Can someone give me some advice on how to get the town growing past 20k, seems to have peeked out
20:08:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> build the roads manually
20:08:53  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I have alot of roads but with no building near them, so do I still need to build more?
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20:13:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> damn
20:14:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> see what roads i have build?
20:14:48  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I take it that was my little town, lol
20:15:02  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yes
20:15:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> like a ring around the existing one
20:15:11  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok
20:15:15  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> reapeat it to let it grow faster
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20:15:43  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> Am I allowed to build below the snow line?
20:15:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> for the town not
20:16:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> only to produce food
20:16:28  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok, so it is nearly at the limit then
20:16:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> well it will slow down growing if not a ring but it does not really matter
20:17:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we need more town anyway
20:19:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now this is bad
20:19:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> look at your station
20:19:20  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> My mail station now accepts mail, do I leave the orders to pickup from me only or can I change the orders?
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20:19:47  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> Which station?
20:19:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Drudstone: Heights jams
20:20:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> also Drudstone transports 500 of the 1500 possible mail
20:20:24  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> maybe look for some improvement
20:21:14  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I would expand it but a FPP poped up
20:22:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that is no problem look
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20:24:10  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so that's a kind of buffer?
20:24:43  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but why remove the platforms?
20:25:11  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> aho, ok
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20:26:30  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I didn't realise that you could build the station apart like that
20:26:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you can do a lot with the cntrl key
20:27:49  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> still alot to learn :)
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20:28:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> understand how it works is better than learning how to build it
20:29:24  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> btw do you know about Curvelength?
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20:30:14  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I have a little understanding, but I'm sure my understanding is not deep, I keep watching the speed of trains to see if they are affected
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20:30:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the safe solution is to make a curve the same length as atrain
20:31:06  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so that the train does not cross 2 x45 deg track
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20:31:17  <Vinnie_nl> !password
20:31:18  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: buzzes
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20:31:50  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Can you find the sign ! <- CL
20:32:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that has 2x 45 degree turn
20:33:04  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yes
20:33:24  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and what is it signifying?
20:33:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> if i say that is has a CL of 1 do you see how i mean that?
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20:33:54  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> at the entrance of the 3 platforms?
20:34:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
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20:34:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> like the example in the lake
20:35:11  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yes, I understood now it was pointed out
20:35:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> between the two curves there is 1 tile ergo CL1
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20:35:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets fix that
20:35:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the Trains are 2 tiles so should all curves be
20:36:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> as simple as that is enough
20:36:59  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok, and what about the next entrance to it, is that ok?
20:37:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what do you think?
20:38:38  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> what you show there is not, but that's not exactly the same as I have straight accross 2 diagonal tiles
20:39:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i only show the worst case
20:39:10  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and was wasn't sure if diagonal counts different
20:40:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that would make S-Bends
20:40:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> S-Bends do not slow down
20:40:20  <Xotic750> pythag theory says it is but I don't know with the game
20:40:36  <Xotic750> ok
20:41:02  <Xotic750> that's clearer now
20:41:13  <V453000> pythag theory isnt openttd :D
20:41:42  <hylje> python
20:41:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but google shows nice pictures
20:41:59  <V453000> o well :d
20:42:11  <hylje> openttd uses manhattan coordinates for diagonal
20:42:45  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so, that's a better entrance for 3 platforms then
20:42:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but both have noting to do with CL
20:43:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> imo the example in the lake is better yes
20:43:11  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok
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20:46:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ok wanna make a new town together?
20:46:38  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> cool :)
20:46:50  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> pick one\
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20:47:02  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I need coffee first ;)
20:47:09  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> give me 5 mins or so
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20:50:44  <aldor> vidiw men9?
20:51:02  <aldor> rus vidiw men9?
20:51:04  *** RUS is now known as Guest13576
20:51:04  <Guest13576> да
20:51:10  <Guest13576> !name RUS
20:51:10  <aldor> о супер)
20:51:19  <Guest13576> как имя сменить?
20:51:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> great
20:51:41  <aldor> "/msg nickserv register <password> <email>"
20:52:01  <Guest13576> а где тогда зарегениться? )))
20:52:11  <Guest13576> !help
20:52:11  <PublicServer> Guest13576: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
20:52:25  <aldor> по идее тебе тут нужен только пароль)
20:52:33  <V453000> what the fuck?
20:52:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> welcome to russia
20:52:46  <aldor> it's russian, sorrry)
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20:52:57  <V453000> no, here is no russian
20:53:21  <Guest13576> in russia
20:53:21  <aldor> u see only trash instead)
20:53:59  <aldor> but we have rus keyboard layout so we see rus letters
20:54:07  <Guest13576> где пасс взять?
20:54:08  <V453000> I dont care what I see, it is not english :)
20:54:14  <aldor> !password
20:54:15  <PublicServer> aldor: oiling
20:54:16  <V453000> @kick Guest13576
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20:54:41  <aldor> why so hard, V? )
20:54:49  <V453000> am I?
20:54:49  <aldor> he's just a newbie here
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20:55:02  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok, got coffee :)
20:55:05  <V453000> rule number 1 = english
20:55:12  <RUS[1]> ok
20:55:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i am here
20:55:24  <aldor> i just don't have a time to sey it)
20:55:41  <aldor> !password
20:55:41  <PublicServer> aldor: oiling
20:55:52  <aldor> Rus, got it?
20:56:02  <RUS[1]> !password
20:56:02  <PublicServer> RUS[1]: oiling
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20:56:34  <aldor> then start ottd r22950
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20:56:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> how about Dontbridge?
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20:57:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we got space there
20:57:16  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok
20:57:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> first lets remove the existing mess
20:57:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that is just wrong
20:57:41  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> not much in the way of farms around
20:58:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we just steal some food from somewhere
20:58:27  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> there is Buntworth Falls Farm
20:59:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> FPP Prenningway is not used atm
20:59:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> or little
20:59:41  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> only 26% transported :x
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21:00:30  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok, if that's ok to do
21:00:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> or do you really want a new FPP?
21:00:48  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I don't mind
21:00:50  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> then we just fund 3 farms wich will be near us
21:01:35  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> 80 000 :)
21:01:35  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> reuse of things seems good to me, so long as we don't hinder someone
21:02:13  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> 12hours for 72 000 => 80 000 :(
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21:05:29  <Vinnie_nl> !ping
21:05:29  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: pong
21:05:32  <Vinnie_nl> !password
21:05:32  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: rowing
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21:05:48  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> wb
21:06:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah b;uetooth is killer for wifi
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21:06:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wanna do the food first?
21:06:58  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so we are taking from Preningway
21:07:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah that is not beeing used anyway
21:07:41  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok, 2 track station at town?
21:07:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
21:08:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> TL5?
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21:09:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie>  @@(clcalc erail 170)
21:09:36  <Webster> PublicServer: Required CL for rail at 170km/h is 4 (6 half tiles) or TL
21:09:37  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> Should I destroy some roads to place the station?
21:09:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sure we will rebuild most of it anyway
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21:12:04  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> thatok there?
21:12:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
21:15:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ohh we missed eachother
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21:16:00  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> oops, yeah, I was heading towards the farm, lol
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21:17:22  <V453000> LOL nice quit message :D
21:17:36  <Vinnie_nl> :D
21:18:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> why the two-signs?
21:18:37  <Xotic750> accident :)
21:19:56  <AcidWeb> dihedral: FYI i created that goal support for AP+
21:20:38  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> did you create trains? or shall I?
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21:21:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i did it already
21:21:08  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok
21:22:44  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> we're a long way from ML
21:22:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> good :)
21:23:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we go over the left or right ridge?
21:23:49  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> toward left of map perhaps
21:23:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ok nice
21:24:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets make the ML to the town
21:25:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> CL4
21:25:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yo now have Curvelength 3
21:25:30  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you
21:25:50  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> what should the ML be?
21:25:56  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 4
21:26:32  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but it scrossed 5 tiles?
21:27:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that is 4
21:27:20  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok
21:27:30  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> there is a setting somewhere that shows the amount of tiles
21:27:37  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok
21:28:34  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> where do you suggest for the station?
21:28:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> somwhere flat
21:29:40  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> is where we are good if we TF a little?
21:29:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sure
21:30:24  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> RORO or term?
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21:30:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> roro is easier to expand
21:31:46  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> 3 or 4 track?
21:32:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 4
21:32:24  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> TL5?
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21:32:39  <pugi> @clcalc rail 3
21:32:39  <Webster> pugi: A rail Curve Length of 3 (5 half tiles) gives a speed of 168km/h or 105mph
21:32:56  <pugi> cl4 just for that extra 2km/h?
21:33:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the ML is TL4
21:33:24  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so the platforms should be TL4 to
21:33:26  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> aha, was trying to find the plan :P
21:35:02  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> is there a particular good deign  for the entance and exits on this size?
21:35:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats an entrance
21:36:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> should i do the exit to?
21:36:57  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> why the 2 extra connections that are unconnected?
21:37:15  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> if we have double Mainlines
21:37:21  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok
21:38:01  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and for the exit?
21:38:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ost of the time we hav double mainlines or more
21:39:32  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok :)
21:39:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> to easy :D
21:40:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now the hard part
21:40:25  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> connect the last bit to the ML
21:40:31  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so now a 2 x 2 transfer to begin, or?
21:41:15  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so split the ML, or jump over?
21:41:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you need to make a hub
21:43:37  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok, escuse me if I'm slow
21:43:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> np ask away
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21:49:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> need a little help?
21:49:18  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> lol, I think so
21:49:43  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> there
21:50:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> or are you lost now?
21:50:58  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> little, yes,
21:52:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> there that is 50% done
21:53:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you may do the rest
21:55:36  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> something like that ok?
21:55:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ok
21:55:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> can be shorter but it is ok
21:56:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 1 more connection
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22:00:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> your almost there
22:01:13  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> lol
22:03:01  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> bugger, lol
22:03:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you will get there
22:04:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke some signals and we are ok
22:04:30  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> that doesn't count as a curve then?
22:04:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its complicated
22:05:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i really don't know how to explain it in an easy way
22:06:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> do you know prioroties
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22:06:23  <LoPo> iplo it works
22:06:41  <LoPo> somewhat :P
22:07:26  <LoPo> hi btw and bye
22:07:35  <Vinnie_nl> hello and gn
22:07:43  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok
22:07:46  <LoPo> o am in a bar atm :)
22:07:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and drunk?
22:08:20  <LoPo> yesk?
22:08:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 2 prio's needed
22:08:54  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> is that what you meant by priorities?
22:09:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes only you also need some signals
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22:09:46  <Vinnie_nl> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Priority
22:11:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> other track please
22:11:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ML should not stop
22:13:10  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> like so?
22:13:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not really
22:13:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you need presignals like this
22:15:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> is this to complicated at the moment?
22:15:29  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> wish I could zoom more :)
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22:15:54  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> the pre signals signal back
22:16:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes they pass the signal status to the front
22:16:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so they should be backwards
22:17:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> maybe some more eplanation tommorow
22:17:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> explanation
22:17:32  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I kind of get it, but would like to see them in action to be clearer
22:17:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ok we can do that
22:18:56  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> will brb while you build that :)
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22:21:29  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> back. coffee in coffee out :P
22:21:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what time is it at your place that you drink coffee
22:22:01  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> 00:20
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22:22:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> how can you sleep tonight
22:22:35  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I'm a vampire, a bit :)
22:23:29  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and colour blind too
22:23:30  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you see the prio working?
22:24:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmm that is bad
22:24:30  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> that's one of the reasons I like the 32bpp version
22:24:47  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> then I can zoom right in
22:25:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> anyway i have to go to sleep
22:25:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya tommorow
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22:25:50  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> cta
22:25:52  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> cya
22:26:02  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok, and thanks, I can see it but I will copy it to the other version I have running
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22:34:22  <Steven> !password
22:34:22  <PublicServer> Steven: dorsal
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23:08:10  <sturmi> !password
23:08:11  <PublicServer> sturmi: stride
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23:30:20  <Steven> !password
23:30:21  <PublicServer> Steven: risers
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23:50:19  <LoPo> !password
23:50:19  <PublicServer> LoPo: zeroed
23:50:24  <LoPo> hi :\
23:50:36  <PublicServer> <Steven> hello
23:50:43  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
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23:51:34  <PublicServer> <LoPo> no hi?
23:52:15  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi :)
23:52:35  <PublicServer> <LoPo> jeej!
23:52:56  <PublicServer> <LoPo> sorry im a "little" drunk
23:54:07  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> cheers then :)
23:54:22  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hehe  ;)
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