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00:03:20 <PublicServer> *** LoPo has left the game (leaving) 00:14:42 *** nicfer has joined #openttdcoop 00:15:29 *** nicfer has left #openttdcoop 00:19:48 *** nicfer1 has quit IRC 00:21:58 *** UncleCJ has quit IRC 00:42:56 *** LoPo has quit IRC 05:58:14 *** Patrickov has joined #openttdcoop 05:58:39 <Patrickov> !version 05:58:40 <PublicServer> Patrickov: Autopilot AP+ 4.0 Beta (r99.422ef4e8cbe1) 05:58:47 <Patrickov> !download 05:58:47 <PublicServer> Patrickov: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x 05:58:47 <PublicServer> Patrickov: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r23044 05:58:56 <Patrickov> !download win32 05:58:56 <PublicServer> Patrickov: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r23044/openttd-trunk-r23044-windows-win32.zip 06:10:35 *** Patrickov has left #openttdcoop 06:24:09 *** MDGrein has joined #openttdcoop 06:30:58 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 06:43:05 *** MDGrein has quit IRC 07:05:39 *** MDGrein has joined #openttdcoop 07:06:56 *** MDGrein has quit IRC 07:09:25 *** MDGrein has joined #openttdcoop 07:15:02 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 07:20:19 *** MDGrein has quit IRC 07:24:43 *** MDGrein has joined #openttdcoop 07:32:39 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 08:01:46 *** Vinnie_nl has joined #openttdcoop 08:03:37 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 08:06:32 *** Ryton has joined #openttdcoop 08:08:33 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 08:09:41 <Tray> !screen 08:09:41 <PublicServer> *** Tray liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. 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(http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00016122.png) 10:47:22 *** pugi has quit IRC 10:50:13 <Vinnie_nl> hey Dilandau 10:54:25 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 11:04:57 *** Ryton has quit IRC 11:30:30 *** Speedy- has joined #openttdcoop 11:36:15 *** Speedy- is now known as Speedy 11:36:23 *** Speedy is now known as Speedy- 11:54:16 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 12:05:26 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 12:09:42 <Tray> !screen 12:09:42 <PublicServer> *** Tray liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00016122.png) 12:35:01 *** Godde has quit IRC 12:38:49 *** LoPo has joined #openttdcoop 12:40:45 *** Patrickov has joined #openttdcoop 12:40:49 <Patrickov> !password 12:40:49 <PublicServer> Patrickov: inlaid 12:41:07 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 12:41:10 <PublicServer> *** Patrickov joined the game 12:46:34 <Patrickov> !save 12:46:34 <PublicServer> Saving game... 12:46:40 <Patrickov> !screen 12:46:46 <PublicServer> *** Patrickov made screenshot at 00016323: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00016323.png 12:46:57 <PublicServer> *** Patrickov has left the game (leaving) 12:47:02 <Patrickov> exit 12:47:06 <Patrickov> !exit 12:47:15 *** Patrickov has quit IRC 12:53:05 <Vinnie_nl> oh shit 12:53:24 <Vinnie_nl> i am winning and i dont really like it 12:53:30 <Tray> o: 12:53:50 <Vinnie_nl> my mainstations will be two-way and hard to build 12:57:04 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 12:57:06 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau joined the game 12:57:29 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has left the game (leaving) 12:57:40 <Dilandau> hi ^^ 12:57:42 <Dilandau> !screen 12:57:43 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau made screenshot at 00016524: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00016524.png 12:59:04 <Dilandau> Vinnie ? 12:59:14 <Dilandau> where are my free cookie ? :p 12:59:46 <Vinnie_nl> why change vote? 13:00:09 <Dilandau> for the cookie ^^ 13:00:20 <Vinnie_nl> very bad reason 13:00:24 <Dilandau> i like the two plan 13:00:29 <Dilandau> both* 13:00:49 <Vinnie_nl> you know i changed it? 13:01:12 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:01:12 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau joined the game 13:01:15 <Vinnie_nl> + have in that sentence 13:01:29 <Dilandau> i check :p 13:02:35 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 13:02:50 <Dilandau> it's ok for me :p 13:04:11 <V453000> do you realize how huge a refit station is? :) 13:04:47 <Vinnie_nl> two way yes one way is ok 13:05:47 <V453000> in compare with normal station 13:07:07 <Vinnie_nl> but less balancing needed now since ml always goes into drop 13:07:27 <Vinnie_nl> that saves space 13:07:46 <pugi> still voting? 13:07:55 <pugi> how are we doing, V453000? 13:08:17 <V453000> we are doing badly because people do not realize Vinnies plan does not fit the map 13:09:04 <V453000> Vinnie_nl: bypass vs. hub should save no space 13:09:10 <V453000> still the same amount of balancing 13:09:18 <V453000> the previous exits just were more far apart 13:09:31 <Vinnie_nl> hmm 13:09:33 <pugi> maybe we should remove his plan :D 13:10:44 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has left the game (leaving) 13:11:21 <V453000> some time ago I had an idea of something like a plan discussion board 13:11:40 <V453000> where you could show some details why what etc. is in your plan 13:11:44 <V453000> and many people would understand 13:12:01 <V453000> I doubt any of the voters there understand the logic I told you yesterday pugi :) 13:12:30 <pugi> :D 13:12:39 <pugi> but a discussion board would be nice 13:13:10 <pugi> we could simply introduce it 13:13:38 <V453000> want to do that now? 13:14:30 <pugi> i am in university right now 13:14:32 <pugi> maybe later 13:14:40 <pugi> about 1.5-2 hours 13:15:03 <pugi> !password 13:15:03 <PublicServer> pugi: inlaid 13:15:19 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:15:19 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 13:15:31 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 13:15:32 <pugi> oh noes :D 13:15:34 <pugi> 5 votes 13:15:42 <Mazur> 7, it was. 13:15:44 <pugi> well, at least vinnie will be happy :) 13:15:53 <pugi> i mean 5 for vinnie 13:16:02 <Mazur> Oh. 13:18:30 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 13:18:43 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:18:46 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 13:19:33 <V453000> maybe Mazur would like to re-consider? :P 13:19:40 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, he would. 13:19:46 <Vinnie_nl> all should reconsider 13:19:55 <Vinnie_nl> under my name then 13:20:06 <Vinnie_nl> bad plan i know it now 13:20:08 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Aside from other stuff, there are two mnre plans, now, and Vinnie's is changed, or elaborated. 13:21:11 <pugi> vinnies has changed? 13:21:13 <Mazur> But V, are you sure your plan has enough space for SLs? 13:21:14 <pugi> didn't notice 13:21:33 <Mazur> There were bits of text that were not there when I phoated. 13:22:18 <V453000> Mazur: how else would you like to get more space 13:22:36 <Mazur> That is notwhat I asked. 13:22:39 <V453000> SLH is the main problem, SL fits anywhere in the land 13:22:58 <Mazur> SL are to be on the bits from ML to MS. 13:23:14 <Mazur> SL/SLH, same thing in this context. 13:23:31 <Mazur> I was concerned that there might not be enough room to connect them, yes. 13:23:34 <V453000> they can be on the ring as well if it is required 13:23:53 <pugi> LLL_RRR slh :/ 13:23:57 <V453000> well, by making some normally "unneeded" longer ML, you automatically get more space for SLHs 13:24:06 <V453000> pugi: SLH is easy ;) 13:24:09 <Mazur> Yes, I can read. 13:24:17 <pugi> yeah, i guess 13:24:25 <pugi> i think i make them overly complex 13:24:56 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 13:26:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00015D24: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00015D24.png 13:30:15 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:30:16 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven joined the game 13:42:11 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop 13:42:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mfb- 13:42:16 <mfb-> hi 13:46:13 <Mazur> lo 14:37:49 *** pugi has quit IRC 14:46:36 <LoPo> is the voting session over? :P i wnt to build 14:47:01 <LoPo> ah its V vs V, hmmm 14:47:19 <LoPo> !password 14:47:19 <PublicServer> LoPo: inlaid 14:48:41 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:48:43 <PublicServer> *** LoPo joined the game 14:50:17 <Vinnie_nl> !screen 14:50:17 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie_nl liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. 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(http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00015528.png) 16:17:03 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven has left the game (connection lost) 16:17:04 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 16:25:03 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop 16:26:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000003FE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000003FE.png 16:43:03 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 16:44:19 <Tray> !password 16:44:19 <PublicServer> Tray: paltry 16:44:32 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:44:32 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 16:44:32 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 17:02:23 *** Speedy- has joined #openttdcoop 17:06:29 <PublicServer> <Tray> Lopo, what does SC mean? 17:07:22 <Mazur> Southern California. 17:07:44 <Mazur> Saddle Cramp. 17:07:45 <PublicServer> <Tray> Then the SC:10 sign at his plan has no sense 17:07:59 <Mazur> Sideways Crab. 17:08:24 * Mazur is kidding, in case anyone did not get that. 17:10:45 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 17:19:14 <LoPo> S-Curve 17:20:21 <LoPo> what else whould it mean? it is ttd.... 17:20:52 <Vinnie_nl> Service Center 17:20:55 <Vinnie_nl> !password 17:20:55 <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: levees 17:21:24 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 17:21:25 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 17:22:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets do V his plan 17:26:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00015F25: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00015F25.png 17:35:15 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 17:57:12 *** Skip has joined #openttdcoop 17:58:42 *** Tray has quit IRC 17:58:44 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 18:01:46 <Maraxus> !password 18:01:46 <PublicServer> Maraxus: potted 18:02:13 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 18:05:24 *** Skip has quit IRC 18:05:40 *** Skipie has joined #openttdcoop 18:06:56 *** Skipie is now known as skip 18:27:28 *** hanf has joined #openttdcoop 18:30:13 <skip> @quickstart 18:30:14 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 18:32:18 <skip> !help 18:32:18 <PublicServer> skip: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 18:32:32 <skip> !password 18:32:32 <PublicServer> skip: knolls 18:33:59 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 18:37:31 <PublicServer> *** LoPo has left the game (leaving) 18:37:32 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:37:54 <Vinnie_nl> !screen 18:37:54 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie_nl liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00015F25.png) 18:37:57 <skip> hello internetz people 18:38:05 <Vinnie_nl> hey 18:38:38 <Vinnie_nl> are you comming to play? 18:38:38 <skip> can you help me find the "unknown" newgrfs for the public server? 18:38:44 <Vinnie_nl> yes 18:38:53 <skip> hi :) wasnt on irc in years 18:39:08 <Vinnie_nl> use the word missing in that sentance and you get the answer 18:39:08 <skip> cool its still existing:) 18:39:25 <Vinnie_nl> like i am missing some …. 18:39:49 <skip> please? dear Vinnie, help teh nub! 18:39:50 <skip> :) 18:40:02 <Vinnie_nl> i am missing some newgrfs :) 18:40:04 <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart (again, try !grf) 18:40:14 <skip> lulz 18:40:17 <Vinnie_nl> webster always knows 18:40:22 <skip> all that sucking up for nothing 18:40:35 <skip> !grf 18:40:35 <PublicServer> skip: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 8.0) 18:40:49 <Vinnie_nl> :d 18:42:37 <skip> yay it workz 18:42:41 <skip> thx :) 18:42:57 <skip> showing openttdcoop to my girlfriend 18:43:01 <skip> she hates the game ;) 18:43:43 <skip> !password 18:43:43 <PublicServer> skip: levers 18:43:57 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:43:57 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:44:00 <PublicServer> *** Skip joined the game 18:44:01 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 18:44:11 <Vinnie_nl> nice i will be there to 18:44:29 <Vinnie_nl> wtf CB are you here? 18:44:44 <Vinnie_nl> !password 18:44:44 <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: levers 18:45:00 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 18:46:05 *** Firartix has quit IRC 18:46:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> skip are you going to vote? 18:49:07 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 18:49:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> hello gentlemen 18:49:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 18:49:15 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> network that is 18:49:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> o_O LoPo has 3 votes ?D: 18:49:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> has the plan changed? 18:49:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> no, TL20 :D 18:49:51 <LoPo> :D 18:49:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> holy shit. :D 18:50:06 <LoPo> there will be a time when the dark side wins ;) 18:50:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> dark side never felt retarded to me :P 18:51:09 <LoPo> :) 18:51:53 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no history when you teamchat 18:52:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> well there still is the console 18:52:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> but please dont teamchat :) 18:53:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i know that, you have a mac 18:53:41 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i have the same typo's 18:54:13 <LoPo> do i teamchat? :S 18:54:18 <V453000> not you 18:54:30 <V453000> you see, the one who teamchats is the messages you do not see 18:54:32 <V453000> .. :P 18:54:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> either cntrl enter or a setting in patch settings 18:54:35 <LoPo> ah :P 18:54:49 <LoPo> some ingame is "teamchatting" .... 18:54:51 <LoPo> rrr 18:55:27 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> interface - interaction prefer team chat with < enter > off (red) 18:56:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> ooh vinnie calls adv. settings patch settings? :D where did you get that ancient term 18:56:11 <PublicServer> <Skip> aarr! thanks! 18:56:13 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i am old 18:56:36 <PublicServer> <Skip> hm 18:56:46 <PublicServer> <Skip> are you sure its ok for me to vore? 18:56:53 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes Vote against me 18:57:03 <PublicServer> <Skip> vote; it seems you have a tie here 18:57:13 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that is why we need a vote 18:57:28 <PublicServer> <Skip> there 18:57:30 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thank you 18:57:37 <PublicServer> <Skip> oh my pleasure 18:57:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D thanks 18:57:57 <PublicServer> <Skip> for me you ppl are GODS 18:57:59 <PublicServer> <Skip> :) 18:58:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> well, come become one too :P 18:58:09 <PublicServer> <Skip> now start workin! :) 18:58:15 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> I will be #2 !!! 18:58:25 <PublicServer> <Skip> i played 1 game, around 100 18:58:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh, that is some time ago :) 18:58:50 <PublicServer> <Skip> and im still totally impressed by your techniques 18:59:21 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> V we can all propose games to the PSG, or not? 18:59:29 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i mean game maps 18:59:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> hell of course 18:59:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will be only glad 18:59:43 <LoPo> !screen 18:59:43 <PublicServer> *** LoPo made screenshot at 00016126: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00016126.png 19:01:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> in ideal case it is nice if you show it to me first so I can eventually give some hints, but you cant really create a really wrong map for a PS 19:02:00 <PublicServer> <Skip> so...what will happen now? 19:02:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure, some settings are needed, but still 19:02:09 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah ofcourse 19:02:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> much less "fragile" than stable is for example in regard of newGRFs 19:02:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> Skip: well we either decide we want to build right now, or we wait more :) 19:02:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah i am just playing on stable with some newgrf's atm 19:03:31 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but in here i have a great idea for a PSG 19:03:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> well if you read my last article, it basically says it. When you make a newGRF for full time gameplay as stable, it needs to have many more things than a newGRF for our PS 19:03:44 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that will not work on stable 19:03:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 19:03:52 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i read it all very very nice 19:04:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 19:04:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> I didnt get much feedback so I was wondering 19:05:17 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> maybe you dazzeled them before they can think of any feedback 19:05:31 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> because you really look at a trainset different then others 19:05:33 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 19:05:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> :d 19:05:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes I do which is why the name is revolution :) 19:06:56 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but for the weightdifference of a full and empty train you can fix that 19:07:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so it accelerates at the same speed 19:07:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm? 19:07:30 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> as you said later in your article goods weigh less then other cargo's 19:07:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> I said it here, not in the article :) 19:08:15 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and if you make wagons by default heavy and a full carrage the same weight (the load weighs 0) it will have the same acceleration 19:08:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> but ... how does that affect the fact that if you make huge capacity wagons, the differences between empty/full accel increases 19:08:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure but that is dumb, it is good to recognize full and empty trains gameplay wise 19:09:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> you know yourself how you messed up empty trains having prio and it failed 19:09:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> I would hate to remove gameplay thought elements 19:09:25 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you mean a few games back with a merger? 19:09:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is basically what the low wagon capacities argument in the article is about 19:09:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes the refit game 19:09:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes ok 19:10:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> but not only that, having retardedly large capacities just sucks, and having then too small also gets odd 19:10:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> so following "the standard" should be fine 19:10:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> and talking about such things as maglev and the wagon capacity reductions ... it is needed to consider that the original maglev is way different from the "standard" as well 19:11:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i did not mean the amount of cargo a carrage can haul. but the weight that carrage has 19:11:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> I know 19:11:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> but the effect is the same 19:11:17 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but i might have misread you 19:11:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes I know what you mean, making it effectively zero 19:11:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> but I am just giving the reason why not that way 19:11:47 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes let me review your lines 19:12:06 <V453000> " On one hand it would be just dumb to have low capacity trains and therefore not being able to distinguish acceleration of full and empty trains.: 19:12:10 <V453000> quote from article 19:12:20 <V453000> which is basically what I am talking about there 19:12:27 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes 19:12:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> and the ultimate reason why not zero cargo weight 19:12:59 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but is the difference still visible in the endgame with a strong train? 19:13:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> absolutely huge 19:13:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> well, super ultra strong, not that much 19:13:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> but all others, huge 19:13:39 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so by default we will always use double engines to counter it 19:13:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> not really 19:13:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> the differences are kept 19:14:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> the double engines are basically just to improve the acceleration in general, mainly significant on full trains 19:14:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> but it of course influences empty trains as well 19:14:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> and empty trains are of course still going to accelerate much better 19:14:41 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes true 19:15:01 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wasnt there a spreadsheet in devzone already of the loco's? 19:15:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> a very good example is "some" station. You have X lines coming in, X lines coming out. When trains packed to the X lines when full while having worse acceleration, it means that they will be able to pack back into X lines while they are empty 19:15:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you would have same acceleration before station and after, you could even get a jamming exit easily 19:15:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure, there is 19:15:48 <V453000> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ur-trains 19:15:51 <V453000> this is the home of the set 19:16:03 <V453000> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2871 19:16:06 <V453000> and here is engine table 19:16:22 <V453000> all stats, names, and what engines are drawn 19:16:33 <Dilandau> !password 19:16:33 <PublicServer> Dilandau: hobble 19:16:46 <V453000> I do not say stats have to be final, they might be changed when testing, but well, the current state is that way, or at least the systematical way of working 19:17:17 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau joined the game 19:17:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi Dilandau 19:17:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> I have a cookie, look :p 19:17:17 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi 19:17:17 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> lol :p 19:17:24 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> a big cookie ? 19:17:30 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> or a little cookie ? 19:17:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> totally huge one 19:17:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i gave him 2 yesterday 19:17:56 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> 2 little ^^ 19:17:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> might want to be careful not to overfeed :) 19:18:01 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> small* 19:18:32 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> i like both plan 19:18:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> done means spries done? 19:18:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> V is better 19:18:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: yes 19:18:59 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> done ^^ 19:19:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 19:19:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i will make PSG where refit can be done and we do it nextgame 19:19:06 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i promisse 19:19:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah 19:19:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> this just doesnt fit 19:19:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> or well, fits less :P 19:19:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> want to start building? 19:19:58 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i am fine with it 19:20:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> right 19:20:04 <PublicServer> <Skip> yeeees 19:20:12 <V453000> @stage Building 19:20:12 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG219 (r23044) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 19:20:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> minions! 19:20:25 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> give me a BBH sign 19:20:33 <PublicServer> <Skip> woot woot! wherez teh cake? 19:20:35 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> or MSH :P 19:20:43 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> the cake is a lie 19:20:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will make the ML signs again 19:21:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ummm LLL_RRR i dont like uneven Mainlines :( 19:21:31 <Maraxus> !password 19:21:31 <PublicServer> Maraxus: hobble 19:21:47 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 19:21:58 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined company #1 19:22:07 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi ^^ 19:22:11 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 19:23:00 <LoPo> building! :| 19:23:22 <Dilandau> yes 19:26:01 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 19:26:26 <pugi> helas :D 19:26:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002BA3D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002BA3D.png 19:27:01 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 19:27:02 <V453000> well hello pugi :P 19:27:05 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop 19:27:08 <V453000> !passowr 19:27:13 <V453000> !password 19:27:13 <PublicServer> V453000: teamed 19:27:18 <pugi> oh, voting finished? 19:27:22 <pugi> vinnie won? :x 19:27:36 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no he lost 19:27:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :D 19:27:39 <Dilandau> !clcal erail 230 19:27:42 <pugi> :D 19:27:51 <pugi> i guess V453000 won? :P 19:27:54 <V453000> !password 19:27:54 <PublicServer> V453000: teamed 19:27:57 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but again no votes for you :( 19:28:01 <pugi> :D 19:28:07 <pugi> too late, too similar 19:28:07 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:28:11 <PublicServer> <Skip> it was all vinnies evil plan 19:28:20 <pugi> next time i just need to make a plan before V453000 does ;) 19:28:27 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> my plan was to keep votes away from pugi 19:28:30 <pugi> ^^ 19:28:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> V will be glad to see nice plans so he doesnt have to make one 19:28:47 <PublicServer> <Skip> omg pugis plan is so neat 19:28:50 <pugi> you are very quick to add a plan 19:28:52 <Dilandau> @clcalc erail 230 19:28:52 <Webster> Dilandau: Required CL for rail at 230km/h is 7 (12 half tiles) or TL 19:29:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> no that quick 19:29:03 <pugi> so not much chances :D 19:29:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> I usually wait several hours 19:29:17 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 19:29:23 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmmm 19:29:26 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets see 19:29:41 <PublicServer> <pugi> lol... 19:29:47 <PublicServer> <pugi> even lopo got 3 votes 19:29:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> I was also surprised by that 19:30:00 <PublicServer> *** Skip has left the game (leaving) 19:30:17 <PublicServer> <pugi> that shows that people only consider voting for plans that already have votes :D 19:30:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> LoPo considers it evil attitude 19:31:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe some truth there :p 19:31:02 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (connection lost) 19:31:38 <Vinnie_nl> !password 19:31:38 <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: teamed 19:31:49 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 19:33:10 <PublicServer> <pugi> i think we need to make some big bridges 19:34:06 <PublicServer> *** LoPo joined the game 19:34:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> just make short ones with little islands in between 19:34:18 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 19:34:21 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah, i know 19:34:27 <PublicServer> <pugi> but still long bridges 19:34:45 <PublicServer> <pugi> just not in once piece :P 19:35:35 <pugi> !tunnels 3 19:35:35 <PublicServer> pugi: !tunnels <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2) 19:35:43 <pugi> @tunnels 3 19:35:43 <Webster> pugi: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4. 19:38:06 <PublicServer> <LoPo> gz V 19:38:08 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P 19:38:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> .. 19:38:12 <PublicServer> <LoPo> you bastart :P 19:38:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> tl20 was just bad :D 19:38:46 <PublicServer> <LoPo> realy? :P 19:38:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> see? even pugi knows it 19:38:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> :p 19:41:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000229C3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000229C3.png 19:45:50 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oh shit 19:46:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> something wrong? :) 19:47:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah it is not 3 + 3 > 3 but 2 + 3 >3 19:48:51 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k 19:48:55 <PublicServer> <LoPo> im back 19:49:07 <PublicServer> <LoPo> can i do something? 19:49:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> anything :) 19:49:50 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k 19:49:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> that is allot :P 19:50:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> anything does not mean everything :) 19:50:43 <PublicServer> <LoPo> does ore trains refit into steel etc? 19:50:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 19:50:55 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k 19:50:57 <PublicServer> <LoPo> phew 19:50:59 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) 19:51:36 <PublicServer> <LoPo> is someone working in the south west? 19:51:40 <PublicServer> <LoPo> of that BBH sign? 19:51:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> not me 19:51:54 <PublicServer> <LoPo> of = on* 19:52:26 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> i try on offline 19:52:32 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> but it's hard :p 19:52:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> try right away, not offline ;) 19:52:38 <PublicServer> <pugi> aren't these all mshs and not bbhs? :D 19:52:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> pugi: no, that is the point 19:53:02 <PublicServer> <LoPo> slh are between stations and bbhs 19:53:10 <PublicServer> <LoPo> not on the "main" ring 19:53:10 <PublicServer> <pugi> mmh... yeah okay 19:53:24 <PublicServer> <pugi> i guess V is doing the tunnel bbh :P 19:53:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> :( 19:53:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> discovered :p 19:53:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> :p 19:53:38 <PublicServer> <pugi> trademark :P 19:56:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001EDB9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001EDB9.png 19:57:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> monster bridges 19:57:51 <PublicServer> <pugi> yes 19:57:59 <PublicServer> <pugi> my plan had no monster bridges :( 19:58:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 19:58:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> is that bad? 19:58:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> but monster MLs 19:58:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 19:58:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> ^ 20:00:58 <PublicServer> <pugi> are there shortcuts for terraforming? :x 20:01:02 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> qwe 20:01:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> QWE 20:01:08 <PublicServer> <pugi> oh.. 20:01:10 <PublicServer> <pugi> thanks :D 20:01:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> or just E and drag 20:01:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> ALL 20:01:36 <PublicServer> <pugi> i know how they work :P 20:01:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> I rather meant drag everything with E and done 20:01:56 <PublicServer> <pugi> :D 20:02:12 <PublicServer> <pugi> i just found out that you can do diagonal terraforming with ctrl by accident :D 20:02:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> ¨:) 20:08:37 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 20:08:52 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> this takes more time that i thought 20:09:06 <PublicServer> <pugi> ;) 20:10:48 <PublicServer> <pugi> okay, done 20:10:58 <PublicServer> <pugi> to hilly for me to try any of the complex stuff :D 20:11:12 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 20:11:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00035B7E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00035B7E.png 20:13:16 <PublicServer> <Tray> V, the Refinery at Gutway is too far away from the map edge 20:13:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont think it is 20:13:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> the edge setting is overridden by one of the newGRFs 20:13:49 <PublicServer> <Tray> oh okay 20:13:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> the limit should be 666 20:14:01 <PublicServer> <Tray> didn't know that. 20:14:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> stations name from nearby industry is the newgrf 20:14:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> now you do :p 20:14:13 <PublicServer> <Tray> I do. 20:14:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is the same reason why there are no oil rigs and oil wells increase productions 20:14:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no oil rigs looks so nice 20:15:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> kind of clean :d 20:15:33 <PublicServer> <Tray> You don't have those ugly clusters with juge stations, yes 20:20:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> not, not live 20:20:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> anger management 20:20:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> join the dark side 20:20:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> they have cookies 20:21:10 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so unfair 20:21:16 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what can compete to cookies 20:21:34 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 20:21:44 <V453000> !password 20:21:44 <PublicServer> V453000: broods 20:22:01 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 20:22:38 <V453000> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLeCQ8o0-9c 20:22:39 <Webster> Title: The Emperors Rap - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 20:22:43 <V453000> dark side 20:23:44 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that makes me join the light side 20:23:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> die scum! 20:23:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 20:26:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00025C8D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00025C8D.png 20:37:47 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> gn 20:37:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> cya 20:37:57 <PublicServer> <LoPo> bb 20:38:01 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 20:38:19 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya 20:38:22 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 20:39:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh cool refinery is already there :) 20:39:48 <PublicServer> <Tray> yeah 20:39:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> and BBH 01 ready :) 20:41:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000238A6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000238A6.png 20:44:21 <PublicServer> <mfb> are the lines east of BBH01 and BBH01 related somehow? :p 20:44:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> not too much 20:44:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> nice drawing you know 20:47:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> that should do it :) 20:47:20 <PublicServer> <Tray> hrm 20:47:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> :) 20:47:39 <PublicServer> <Tray> I just see that refinerydrop has no balancing at all 20:47:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> drop might not need balancing 20:48:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> so dont bother too much :) 20:48:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> wondering why didnt you build the drop at the very end of the island though 20:48:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> but meh 20:49:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> it should be just fine 20:51:16 *** TWerkhoven[l] has joined #openttdcoop 20:51:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: sure the split goes that way? :D 20:51:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :( 20:52:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> interesting :P 20:52:10 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what is my problem atm 20:54:57 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now an other type of merge\ 20:56:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00036795: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00036795.png 20:59:27 <Xotic750> !password 20:59:27 <PublicServer> Xotic750: feigns 20:59:57 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 joined the game 21:00:13 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has joined company #1 21:00:19 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi 21:00:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 21:00:57 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 21:01:09 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> wow, voting finished :) 21:08:38 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so, something I can work on, build tracks following the signs? 21:08:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> for example :) 21:09:01 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> :) 21:09:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> u_u no balancing on a BBH will be a problem LoPo 21:10:20 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye working on it :( 21:11:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000205A2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000205A2.png 21:12:57 *** TWerkhoven[l] has quit IRC 21:15:44 *** TWerkhoven[l] has joined #openttdcoop 21:18:40 <pugi> !password 21:18:40 <PublicServer> pugi: petted 21:18:56 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 21:20:17 <PublicServer> <Tray> whoever killed pugi's plan: you can delete signs by ctrlclicking them it's much faster 21:20:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> NOOOO 21:20:30 <PublicServer> <pugi> MY PLAN :( 21:20:32 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> thanks for tip 21:20:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> plan pillage :d 21:22:03 *** DayDreamer has left #openttdcoop 21:25:19 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH02 done 21:25:37 <PublicServer> <Tray> MSL are LLRR 21:25:46 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oh no 21:25:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol didnt you actually say that in the start? 21:25:53 <PublicServer> <pugi> :) 21:25:56 <PublicServer> <pugi> he did 21:26:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> just add a 3->2 :p 21:26:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> and we can get an expansion for free later 21:26:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe 21:26:24 <pugi> [20:45:51] <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oh shit 21:26:24 <pugi> [20:46:47] <PublicServer> <V453000> something wrong? :) 21:26:24 <pugi> [20:47:06] <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah it is not 3 + 3 > 3 but 2 + 3 >3 21:26:25 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Yes 21:26:37 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no that is an other merger 21:26:40 <skip> !password 21:26:40 <PublicServer> skip: crease 21:26:40 <PublicServer> *** skip made screenshot at 0000940B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000940B.png 21:26:51 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the one south:P 21:26:53 <PublicServer> *** Skip joined the game 21:26:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> point still stands :D 21:27:11 <PublicServer> <Skip> hellou, just watching the progress :) 21:27:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i fail 21:27:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 21:27:55 <PublicServer> <Skip> this is cooler than tv 21:28:07 <PublicServer> <pugi> depends on the program 21:28:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> tv is dumb 21:28:15 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 21:28:19 <PublicServer> <Skip> oh 21:28:19 <V453000> duh 21:28:21 <PublicServer> <Skip> dont go... 21:28:25 <V453000> punished 21:28:25 <V453000> !password 21:28:26 <PublicServer> V453000: crease 21:28:36 <PublicServer> <pugi> he has some connection problems all the time ;) 21:28:40 <PublicServer> <Skip> bhahaha teh tv god just zapped ya 21:28:41 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 21:30:27 <PublicServer> *** {TWerkhoven[L]} joined the game 21:30:28 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> ello 21:30:32 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 21:30:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 21:30:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> evening 21:32:36 <PublicServer> <pugi> i suspected you did the wood drop, when i saw the weird prios :D 21:32:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> :( 21:33:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> obvious :D 21:33:17 <PublicServer> <pugi> to complicated for anyone else :D 21:33:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> this is the simpliest version 21:33:45 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its train injection prio 21:33:53 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no even overflow 21:34:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> connection is fine, the platforms are TL2 now 21:34:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> well I could just shorten one 21:34:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> see the tile with the sign 21:34:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> that :D 21:34:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes I know 21:34:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah ok 21:34:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> wood have to die 21:34:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> I just cut off the whole couple of platforms instead of one 21:34:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will kill it manually in case 21:35:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: what is it if it isnt overflow? 21:35:30 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 21:35:37 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i missed the incomming track so i thought something else 21:35:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is a combined train-going-toward-platform check with a free waiting bay check 21:35:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm :) 21:35:47 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but it is a normal overflow 21:36:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> well, normal ... since psg 204, normal. 21:36:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> "normal" 21:36:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 21:37:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> who be making wood BBH? 21:37:12 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 21:37:14 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> penalty chooses first exit to the pickup 21:37:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, that kicked him 21:37:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> eol forces to the next split 21:37:35 <V453000> !password 21:37:36 <PublicServer> V453000: crease 21:37:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> then overflow if it fails 21:37:48 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 21:38:47 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> what is going to be at the far right map corner? 21:38:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> where? 21:38:59 <TWerkhoven[l]> town drop? 21:38:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> goods drop 21:39:06 <PublicServer> <pugi> the island with the plan 21:39:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> city to be funded later 21:39:54 *** valhalla1w has quit IRC 21:40:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes penalty is on both splits, it makes PBS less dumb I think 21:40:16 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> less :) 21:40:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> it will have less trouble choosing the platforms that are more far away 21:40:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> at least I think it has such an effect 21:41:41 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005490: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00005490.png 21:42:16 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and what is happening at Prondinghattan, is that a BBH around the town? 21:42:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> would look nice 21:42:32 <PublicServer> <pugi> kill it with fire! 21:42:38 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah, or that :P 21:42:42 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> lol 21:43:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> kill it with rails! sounds better to me 21:43:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> save the town! 21:43:43 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> town reservation? 21:43:51 <PublicServer> <pugi> save the cheerleader, save the world! 21:43:59 <PublicServer> <pugi> i need to watch heroes again :D 21:45:29 <PublicServer> <pugi> uhm... 21:45:41 <PublicServer> <pugi> i understand if you make food pickup or the likes beer.... 21:45:49 <PublicServer> <Skip> please apologize my nub question:) 21:45:51 <PublicServer> <pugi> but how the hell can a sawmill produce beer? :D 21:45:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> WOOD BEER . 21:46:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> makes sense, doesnt it :) 21:46:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> bio beer? 21:46:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> uhm, no :P 21:46:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> it does make perfect sense to me. 21:46:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> note the word perfect 21:46:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> objections? :D 21:46:58 <PublicServer> <pugi> OBJECTION! 21:47:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> DENIED 21:47:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> overules 21:47:17 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> overruled 21:47:31 <PublicServer> <pugi> :( 21:47:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> when some beer can be made of horse piss, how could it not be made of wood 21:48:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wood is not liquid 21:48:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D :D :D mfb using the gravity 21:48:10 <PublicServer> <pugi> maybe from wood lice... 21:48:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> in the wrong direction :/ 21:48:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> it will work somehow :) 21:48:46 <PublicServer> <LoPo> f#$%k... :| 21:48:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> after all, wood trains are rather light and other trains are empty there 21:48:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> but the other option would be to extend the lines a bit 21:49:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> so should not be that big of a deal 21:54:15 <PublicServer> *** Skip has left the game (leaving) 21:55:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> LoPo: want advice? 21:55:51 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes plx :P 21:55:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> finish !that first 21:56:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 21:56:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> XPOXASODPIFJUHGIYHFK O_O 21:56:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> goods drop by.. ? 21:56:41 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003C61F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003C61F.png 21:56:53 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> a genious 21:57:03 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> kill that with fire 21:57:13 <PublicServer> <pugi> i knew you'd like it :D 21:57:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> not fire again! 21:57:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> fire isnt enough for this 21:57:36 <PublicServer> <pugi> i was bored :P 21:57:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> your doing? :d 21:57:50 <PublicServer> <LoPo> V453000: but you mean the conction or the merg? 21:57:59 <PublicServer> <LoPo> conection* 21:58:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 21:58:08 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye 21:58:10 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k 21:58:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> you still need to make the balancing there 21:58:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you do the other parts earlier, you will likely need to move them etc 21:58:40 <PublicServer> <LoPo> well :P 5 huor ago i had 1 then i nukes it >_< 21:58:40 <PublicServer> <pugi> V: i doubt you can do a more awesome station :P 21:58:42 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k 21:59:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> (I know he can) 21:59:00 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmm i need to kill a house in Prondinghattan 21:59:14 <PublicServer> <mfb> use trees first 21:59:18 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah 21:59:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no matter now 21:59:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> pugi: solved 21:59:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> there 21:59:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh wait, now the crown 21:59:38 <PublicServer> <pugi> :P 21:59:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> ultimate station 22:00:02 <PublicServer> <pugi> at least i had multiple platforms 22:00:08 <PublicServer> <pugi> that were long enough 22:00:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah but neither of my platforms is accessible 22:00:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> so it wont jam as trains wont go there 22:00:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> awesome isnt it :d 22:00:40 <PublicServer> <pugi> it will, as trains can't even pass it 22:00:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes but why would they go there in such case :) 22:01:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> just a dead end 22:01:44 <PublicServer> <pugi> my station would have worked a bit 22:01:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> no because we have fire 22:01:58 <PublicServer> <pugi> :D 22:02:14 <PublicServer> <pugi> i just wanted to do a not-boring station 22:02:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> so dumping PBS everywhere is not boring 22:02:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> I got to write that down 22:02:32 <PublicServer> <pugi> haha 22:02:40 <PublicServer> <pugi> no, i placed the stations first 22:02:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> could you perhaps write a blog about it? :) 22:02:42 <PublicServer> <pugi> then connected 22:03:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> uhm 22:03:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> looks crappy 22:04:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> what the cow.. 22:05:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: you have a tiny problem :) 22:05:05 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes 22:05:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> one track decided to go rogue 22:05:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 22:05:43 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we are talking about what BBH? 22:05:54 <PublicServer> <pugi> better don't look =) 22:06:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> evil line 22:06:59 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 22:07:33 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no problem 22:11:42 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00029273: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00029273.png 22:11:55 *** Tray|2 has joined #openttdcoop 22:15:21 <V453000> !rcon set found_town 2 22:15:22 <PublicServer> V453000: CmdBuildSingleSignal Vinnie date:2059-04-12 tile:00029A61 p1:00005000 p2:00000000 text: price:520 22:15:22 <PublicServer> V453000: CmdBuildSingleSignal Vinnie date:2059-04-12 tile:00029A61 p1:00005000 p2:00000000 text: price:0 22:15:46 <V453000> !rcon set found_town 0 22:15:46 <PublicServer> V453000: CmdLevelLand mfb date:2059-04-23 tile:00008CFE p1:00008CFE p2:00000004 text: price:1080 22:15:46 <PublicServer> V453000: CmdLevelLand Dilandau date:2059-04-23 tile:000357AB p1:000357AB p2:00000004 text: price:790 22:15:46 <PublicServer> V453000: CmdLevelLand mfb date:2059-04-23 tile:00008EFD p1:00008EFD p2:00000004 text: price:770 22:15:46 <PublicServer> V453000: CmdLevelLand Vinnie date:2059-04-23 tile:00028866 p1:00028866 p2:00000002 text: price:870 22:15:46 <PublicServer> V453000: CmdLevelLand Vinnie date:2059-04-23 tile:00028865 p1:00028865 p2:00000002 text: price:330 22:15:48 <PublicServer> V453000: CmdLevelLand Dilandau date:2059-04-23 tile:000359AA p1:000359AA p2:00000004 text: price:290 22:15:52 <V453000> stupid debug 22:16:07 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ? 22:16:13 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> see irc 22:16:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> see irc 22:16:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> see it twice for sure :p 22:16:25 <mfb-> aha 22:16:41 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you busted me on building 22:16:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> how lucky is that :D 22:17:08 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:17:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> bridge 22:17:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> bridge 22:17:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> repeat.. 22:18:18 <V453000> interestingly enough there are 6 commands in the debug, all of them being terraform :D 22:18:28 *** Tray has quit IRC 22:18:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> my two come from the bridges near BBH03 22:18:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 22:18:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> I think two others, too 22:18:51 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 2 for signals 22:19:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> those are aside :) 22:19:13 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> any more exeptions? 22:19:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> no, everything we do in this game is just terraforming 22:19:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> and two signals 22:19:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> :p 22:19:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 22:20:05 <mfb-> let's see 22:20:10 <mfb-> !rcon set found_town 0 22:20:10 <PublicServer> mfb-: CmdClearArea Vinnie date:2059-08-19 tile:00025051 p1:00025C54 p2:00000000 text: price:800 22:20:16 <mfb-> :D 22:20:23 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and again me 22:20:24 <V453000> just clear :) 22:20:32 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> forrest now 22:20:49 <KenjiE20> that's not debug, that's the hacky hack at work :p 22:21:04 <V453000> yes but enabling debug makes it hacky hack, doesnt it 22:21:31 <V453000> in other words if all debugs are 0 then it does not show I think 22:21:38 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven[L] has left the game (leaving) 22:22:06 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 22:22:10 <V453000> !password 22:22:10 <PublicServer> V453000: forges 22:22:24 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 22:23:38 <KenjiE20> no, that's how the replies work 22:23:54 <KenjiE20> they just hook onto the log and wait for something that looks right for x secs iirc 22:23:55 <V453000> hm, no clue then 22:24:04 <V453000> hm :) 22:25:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol river fix 22:25:15 <KenjiE20> new tools soon though :p 22:25:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> I am starting to severely hate rivers 22:25:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> ooh :) 22:25:36 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 22:25:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> river maps start to hate you, too 22:26:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> :p 22:26:33 <V453000> no my wifi router just fucking sucks 22:26:40 <V453000> !password 22:26:40 <PublicServer> V453000: stroll 22:26:42 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002666B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002666B.png 22:26:54 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 22:27:08 <pugi> czech internet is bad internet :D 22:27:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> not really, the internet itself I have is brilliant, but I add a wifi router to it and the router sucks badly 22:28:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont know how it is in other coutries but it is true that you get problems with every single company but one in czech 22:28:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> UPC is fine here 22:28:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> difficult terrain there 22:29:30 *** TWerkhoven[l] has quit IRC 22:34:35 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> what is station at Dafingbridge? 22:35:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> coal and ore drop 22:35:57 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:36:48 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so you will have just 1 station for both? 22:38:10 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 22:38:22 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and another station for pickup of steel? 22:38:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes 22:38:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> 1 for drop, 1 for pickup 22:39:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> clear? :) 22:39:31 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> as mud :) Sorry, just wanted to get a clearer picture 22:39:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure thing :) better ask 22:39:43 <pugi> quite easy to understand 22:39:53 <pugi> as trains waiting for pickup could jam the whole station 22:40:07 <pugi> that's why pickup and drop are always seperated 22:40:15 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I understand that but I wasn't clear about the plan 22:40:18 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ty 22:40:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> np 22:40:38 <mfb-> Xotic750: it is not stated there as it is a standard rule for all PSG 22:41:42 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00037776: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00037776.png 22:42:08 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so would you use roro for drop and terminus for pickup or roro for both? 22:42:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> depends on the landscape 22:42:34 <PublicServer> <LoPo> rrrr :P i realy should practice building bbh more :( 22:42:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> you could use either of those with appropriate composition Xotic750 :p 22:43:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is why you build one at the moment? :p 22:43:13 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah :) 22:43:23 <PublicServer> <LoPo> and if posible another one :) 22:44:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> one left to do 22:44:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> near gunninghall 22:44:09 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not me 22:44:16 *** Tray|2 has quit IRC 22:44:21 <PublicServer> <mfb> for LoPo :p 22:44:27 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :D 22:45:53 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and for the kind of throughput at this stations, how many platforms would you expect to need for each? is there some kind of rule? 22:46:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> there is the rule "enough" 22:46:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> no idea, depends on wagons 22:47:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is a short prio 22:50:11 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop 22:50:22 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 22:50:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :) 22:50:44 <PublicServer> <Sylf> hi al 22:50:50 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 22:51:30 <PublicServer> <Sylf> It's been a while 22:51:35 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> do you ever use the presignal bypass stations for the games or are they just too space consuming? They look neat because they are kind of modular 22:51:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> they are useless 22:52:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> or, reasonless to say it precisely 22:52:05 <PublicServer> <Sylf> they've been superceded by better design 22:52:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> at least that applies with short trains 22:52:59 <PublicServer> <Sylf> better designed station that exploits 2way eol should work better 22:53:25 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> is there an example of the better design in the wiki? 22:53:51 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yeah - PSG archives 22:53:55 <V453000> probably is in the junctionary too 22:53:58 <V453000> I think 22:54:19 <V453000> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/File:Psg186_towndrop03.png 22:54:35 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and I also see people mentioning that there is a better design for the load balancing rather than those shown in the wiki 22:54:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> the wiki is quite outdated in general 22:55:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> the most updated part is junctonary atm 22:55:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> which is still being quite empty by the way 22:56:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> who wrote that crap near oil ref drop 22:56:42 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00036595: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00036595.png 22:56:55 <KenjiE20> uch, one day, some day, we'll do a wiki reboot 22:57:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> me 22:57:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: I know you did 22:57:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> but why 22:57:25 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined spectators 22:57:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> why do you expect a drop to jam is unclear to me 22:57:41 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it is 2.5 tiles and not 3 so in worst case 22:58:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> in the worst cases all trains will be stopped in a huge jam 23:00:45 *** nicfer has joined #openttdcoop 23:04:03 <nicfer> !passwprd 23:04:03 <nicfer> !password 23:04:03 <PublicServer> nicfer: sluice 23:04:03 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ppfff asds :P 23:04:03 <PublicServer> <LoPo> finaly 23:04:03 <PublicServer> *** nicfercoop joined the game 23:04:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> LoPo wins? :) 23:04:03 <PublicServer> *** nicfercoop has joined company #1 23:04:03 <PublicServer> <LoPo> well maybe, but not the bueaty price 23:04:03 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> where can I practice some SLH or maybe BBH? 23:04:03 <KenjiE20> sp? 23:04:03 *** luckz has quit IRC 23:04:03 *** luckz has joined #openttdcoop 23:04:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> sp? 23:04:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 23:04:33 <PublicServer> <LoPo> what is with the w8ing bays? 23:04:33 <KenjiE20> yes 23:06:03 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> what's this game TF? 23:06:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> as low as you can but if needed, can be a tiny bit higher 23:06:29 <PublicServer> <Sylf> It should be as low as possible - the coop default 23:07:26 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:08:30 <PublicServer> <LoPo> what?! 23:08:36 <PublicServer> <Sylf> :P 23:08:42 <PublicServer> <LoPo> factory needs to stay? :P 23:08:56 <PublicServer> <Sylf> the whole trio will stay :P 23:08:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> LoPo: train is likely to stop there 23:09:02 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> where's a SLH needed? 23:09:18 <PublicServer> <Sylf> nicfer: read the NETWORK PLAN 23:09:29 <PublicServer> <Sylf> Actually, wait until the BBH 06 is done at least 23:09:35 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but but :S im what? realy? 23:09:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> LoPo: ? 23:09:48 <PublicServer> <LoPo> we are going to use that factory? 23:09:52 <PublicServer> <Sylf> nah 23:09:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> which one 23:10:00 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I'm just playing with you, LoPo 23:10:04 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ow :| 23:10:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> ahhh 23:10:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> anyway, I am off, I got school from 9.a.m. till 7.35 p.m. tomorrow X.X 23:10:53 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> bye 23:10:53 <PublicServer> <LoPo> oky :) bb 23:10:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> cya 23:11:01 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 23:11:05 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nice we have our first wtf sign 23:11:15 *** hanf has quit IRC 23:11:39 <PublicServer> <Sylf> and appropriately so 23:11:43 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F38A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000F38A.png 23:11:45 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined company #1 23:11:53 <PublicServer> <Sylf> both directions too 23:14:09 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> I want to practice some hubs 23:14:20 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah you can help me :) 23:14:24 <PublicServer> <LoPo> at the bbh 23:14:26 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but 23:14:29 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) 23:14:31 <PublicServer> <Sylf> head over to BBH 06 23:14:37 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> I'm there 23:14:55 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k :) 23:15:02 <PublicServer> <Sylf> LoPo, got a rough plan? 23:15:09 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> wouldn't it better mark first the inputs? 23:15:12 *** Firartix has quit IRC 23:15:14 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah i first want to build the center plart 23:15:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> LoPo: I added signs at "no waiting bay" 23:15:39 <PublicServer> <LoPo> where the tracks are crossing each other 23:16:04 <PublicServer> <LoPo> is it fixed now? 23:16:08 <PublicServer> <LoPo> or still broken 23:16:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> yes 23:16:10 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> it's two LLL_RRR and a LL_RR right? 23:16:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> it is fixed 23:16:16 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> mfb maybe the inner waiting bay has one signal to mutch? 23:16:18 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i saw there was a missing w8ing bay tho 23:16:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh that is true 23:17:47 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has joined spectators 23:20:06 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> minimum CL is 3 I suppose 23:20:10 <PublicServer> <LoPo> whats with the list? :P 23:20:18 <PublicServer> <Sylf> what list? 23:20:31 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> how i would do it 23:20:32 <PublicServer> <LoPo> now its gone :P 23:20:36 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ow :P 23:20:40 <PublicServer> <LoPo> why remove it :) 23:20:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its your hub :P 23:20:59 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hehe k :) 23:21:01 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k 23:21:07 <PublicServer> <LoPo> lez get building 23:23:36 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sync 23:26:06 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> it's LL_RR at the bottom-left? 23:26:12 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye 23:26:40 <PublicServer> <LoPo> so those naket top lines can be 2 or 3 23:26:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00035B60: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00035B60.png 23:26:50 <PublicServer> <LoPo> depending on where we're going to balance 23:27:08 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :D 23:27:11 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> what is the speed of the trains to be used? 23:27:21 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 230 23:27:33 <mfb-> CL3 23:29:19 <PublicServer> <LoPo> lets build the splits now 23:29:48 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P plz dont build where i biuld 23:29:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> take the one north 23:31:04 <PublicServer> <LoPo> no 23:31:10 <PublicServer> <LoPo> Scurfe 23:31:33 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> Scurves also work for diagonal sections? 23:31:41 <PublicServer> <LoPo> why not? 23:31:42 <mfb-> ? 23:32:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> just 2 curves in different directions 23:32:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> no problem 23:33:29 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> CL2 LoPo 23:34:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> remember that you have to split 3 lines there 23:36:45 <PublicServer> <LoPo> sure :) 23:37:35 <PublicServer> <LoPo> uhmm 23:37:45 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P 23:39:44 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> yay, forest closed 23:39:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> nice 23:40:01 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hehe :P 23:40:11 <PublicServer> <LoPo> plit goes outways 23:40:17 <PublicServer> <LoPo> split* 23:41:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000D969: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000D969.png 23:42:49 <mfb-> good night 23:42:55 <PublicServer> <LoPo> bb 23:43:05 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> gn 23:43:14 *** mfb- has quit IRC 23:43:23 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 23:46:23 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 23:46:28 <Vinnie_nl> later 23:46:37 <PublicServer> <LoPo> bye 23:46:45 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> cya 23:46:57 *** Vinnie_nl has quit IRC 23:47:01 *** skip has quit IRC 23:47:21 <PublicServer> <LoPo> argh 23:50:24 <PublicServer> <LoPo> cl 23:50:31 <PublicServer> <LoPo> damn :P 23:50:57 <PublicServer> <LoPo> first dodge the forest 23:51:03 <PublicServer> <LoPo> then split 23:51:17 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> good night 23:51:21 <PublicServer> <LoPo> bb 23:51:23 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> gn 23:51:25 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has left the game (leaving) 23:55:44 *** Skipie has joined #openttdcoop 23:55:49 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ^^ 23:56:00 <Skipie> !password 23:56:00 <PublicServer> Skipie: moused 23:56:16 <PublicServer> <LoPo> eventually you will TF allot :P 23:56:32 <PublicServer> *** Skip joined the game 23:56:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000E36A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000E36A.png 23:58:11 <PublicServer> *** Skip has left the game (leaving) 23:58:26 *** Skipie has quit IRC