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Log for #openttdcoop on 10th November 2011:
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00:24:33  <Tomazim> sup
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09:03:15  <Dominik2000> hello
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09:48:23  <MDGrein> mornin
09:59:56  <Dominik2000> hello
10:01:41  <Mazur>  Moaning.
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10:05:09  <planetmaker> hm... MDGrein, that's a very old name in this channel, if I remember well :-) Hello
10:05:31  <planetmaker> I'd say "long time no see"
10:09:51  <Dominik2000> !password
10:09:51  <PublicServer> Dominik2000: bleats
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10:10:15  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ooer, it moves!
10:10:41  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> hmm
10:10:59  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> problem on bbh 01
10:11:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not seeing it.
10:11:43  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> no jam, but it will be
10:12:05  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i have added the third line, but didn't connect one entry of the bbh
10:13:58  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> we could remove the second line, merge it to one and build a third bridge
10:14:13  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Which is the second line?
10:14:40  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> merge it with the other
10:14:42  <PublicServer> <Mazur> The one below or the one above?
10:14:48  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> above
10:15:22  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> but i don't know if one line is enough
10:15:32  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> traffic is not so much
10:15:38  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Possibly not.
10:16:16  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Look good with this traffic, but traffic has a tendency to on the one hand increase and on the other hand, come in waves.
10:16:26  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> but one bridge to every line is enough
10:16:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes.
10:16:43  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> we could hold the two lines, but make one bridge to every line
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10:19:58  <MDGrein> @planetmaker: it sure is, missed game 200 and that bums me out a bit. Hopefully i'll be able to stick around for a while now :)
10:20:22  <MDGrein> planetmaker: and yeah, long time no see
10:20:52  <planetmaker> :-)
10:21:27  <MDGrein> how is everyone?
10:21:46  <planetmaker> busy writing NewGRFs :-P
10:22:16  <MDGrein> cool stff
10:22:44  <planetmaker> it's exciting NewGRF times currently :-)
10:23:02  <MDGrein> yeah? whats up? some big cooperative project?
10:23:15  <planetmaker> 1.2.0 will have more new possibilities for NewGRFs than any other OpenTTD version since 0.6.0...
10:23:29  <MDGrein> sweet
10:23:31  <planetmaker> It just takes loads of time to exploit them all :-)
10:23:40  <MDGrein> :)
10:23:42  <planetmaker> thus it'll not be immediately visible
10:24:31  <planetmaker> but well. Rivers and readme viewer are also very nice :-)
10:24:33  <MDGrein> rarely is, could you name some new possibilities or point me in the general direction of some document?
10:25:34  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> hmm but how can we make the crossing?
10:25:45  <planetmaker> http://rbijker.net/openttd/misc/changelog.txt <--about 100 ... 150 revisions old
10:26:16  <planetmaker> Since then we introduced a whole new version for the NewGRF language which makes the whole thing more consistent and allows further extensions easier
10:27:47  <planetmaker> one of the notable changes is, that it became MUCH easier to make things like industries, new objects etc. aware of their ground. Thus things can easier be made to fit into different landscapes
10:28:09  <planetmaker> Users won't directly notice it. But it makes nice NewGRFs quite a lot easier
10:28:32  <planetmaker> (like 90% less code needed for the same effect)
10:29:15  <MDGrein> yeah, there's always a bit of a gap between developer features and user features :)
10:29:16  <planetmaker> with newgrf v8, articulated vehicles became possible for many more vehicle IDs. Not directly visible either. But it's e.g. needed for CETS.
10:29:48  <planetmaker> oh, FIRS trunk uses that. As does ogfx+landscape and ogfx+airports ;-)
10:30:09  <planetmaker> thus they don't work anymore in 1.1.3 :-P
10:30:52  <MDGrein> sounds like the ottd world will get just that much better
10:30:55  <planetmaker> but I like the rotatable and snowed airports a lot :-)
10:31:41  <MDGrein> I can second that, havn't experienced it first hand but rotatable airports have been missing :)
10:32:11  <planetmaker> well, adding airportsplus to every game doesn't hurt ;-)
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10:34:46  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> hmm don't know how to solve it
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10:38:10  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> ello
10:38:17  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> hello
10:39:40  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> TWerkhoven can you help me?
10:40:12  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> where?
10:40:55  <Dominik2000> on bbh 01
10:41:31  <MDGrein> !password
10:41:31  <PublicServer> MDGrein: orchid
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10:41:48  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i need to connect the to lines with the sign !2nd to the new added third line
10:41:59  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> signed !this
10:42:10  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i don't know how
10:43:54  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> so far you managed to connect each line to a choice of 2, right?
10:44:09  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> but you want to make it them have the choice af all 3?
10:44:51  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> yes, i want to get all 2 lines the possibility to get on every ml
10:45:22  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> but there is few space :D
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10:46:28  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven>  so i see
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10:47:42  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> i also see the line from the east is getting balanced before the merger
10:48:02  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> well, 2 of the lines anyway
10:48:12  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> yes
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10:48:52  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i think one bridge to every line is enough
10:48:58  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> yes it is
10:49:22  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> but the crossing on so few space is also difficult
10:49:28  <Mazur> @gap 3 3
10:49:29  <Webster> Mazur: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4.
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10:51:04  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> that's also not perfect
10:51:06  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Those tunnels east-west can go up to 14 in length, then, well, their signal gap, so we could move the lines east to create more room.
10:51:22  <PublicServer> <Mazur> "Little space"
10:51:36  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> what if we change those sl-bridges over the ml
10:51:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> "few" pertains to numbers.
10:51:47  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> and use the bridge i just placed
10:52:01  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> that would get rid of the sideline near the merger
10:52:25  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> where?
10:52:31  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Which sl-bridges over the ML?
10:52:45  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> slightly to the west of bbh01
10:53:24  <PublicServer> <Mazur> South
10:53:49  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> no
10:54:34  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> yes
10:54:40  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Z
10:54:46  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> and then`?
10:55:31  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> oh this way
10:55:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> The problem is not aroudn !this, it's in the room for bridges N-S around hte !split sign.
10:56:09  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You want roomfor 6 bridges, were there is only room for four.
10:57:11  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> hmm
10:57:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I may see one.
10:59:44  <PublicServer> <Mazur> There, now you can shoten those two bridges and make a tunnel for the third/
11:01:27  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> this bridge
11:01:33  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> of course
11:01:37  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> but it's temporary
11:03:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hm, better to up the lot to the bridges, for that tunnel.
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11:04:45  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Doesn;t make it through.
11:05:20  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bercause at the end of the bridge the land lowers.
11:06:00  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> but now we can move the cross to get no cl error
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11:08:56  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> not very beatufiul :D
11:09:26  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> that's not good in this way
11:09:28  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It would never be.
11:10:22  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> but now on train can block the other
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11:21:45  <Xotic750> !password
11:21:45  <PublicServer> Xotic750: frosty
11:22:14  <Xotic750> !download
11:22:14  <PublicServer> Xotic750: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
11:22:14  <PublicServer> Xotic750: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r23165
11:29:06  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Dominik2000, is that onwe bridge disconnected on purpose?
11:30:45  <Dominik2000> yes, because it isn't needed anymore
11:31:01  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ok that is the best way :)
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11:33:50  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> there are to many trains driving to the first ml
11:35:24  <Xotic750> !password
11:35:24  <PublicServer> Xotic750: fibber
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11:36:02  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, Xotic750.
11:36:06  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> hello
11:36:08  <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi
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12:11:53  <jondisti> !password
12:11:53  <PublicServer> jondisti: movers
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12:18:35  <V453000> oh hi there :)
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12:20:05  <V453000> !password
12:20:05  <PublicServer> V453000: galley
12:20:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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12:20:27  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> howdy
12:20:38  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> still looking nice :)
12:22:25  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> gotta go to work :(
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13:00:52  <pugi> :D
13:01:35  <V453000> ? :)
13:01:45  <pugi> nothing
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13:04:05  <pugi> !playercount
13:04:05  <PublicServer> pugi: Number of players: 5 (2 spectators)
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13:36:39  <Dominik2000> anyone knows a better solution for bbh 01?
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13:36:51  <Absolutis> !password
13:36:51  <PublicServer> Absolutis: deduct
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13:37:10  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yo
13:39:11  <Dominik2000> an which?
13:39:23  <Absolutis> ?
13:39:35  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> sorry, hello
13:40:20  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> you know a better solution for bbh 01?
13:40:30  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> ?
13:41:13  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i have asked in the channel if anyone knows a better solution for bbh 01
13:41:28  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> but you joined later, sorry
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14:48:18  <MDGrein> !password
14:48:18  <PublicServer> MDGrein: portal
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15:15:22  <Dominik2000> !password
15:15:22  <PublicServer> Dominik2000: solder
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15:21:36  <Maraxus> !password
15:21:36  <PublicServer> Maraxus: guffaw
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15:22:52  <Vinnie_nl> !playercount
15:22:52  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: Number of players: 5 (3 spectators)
15:23:59  <Vinnie_nl> !pasword
15:24:03  <Vinnie_nl> !password
15:24:03  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: guffaw
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15:24:17  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello all
15:24:21  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
15:24:23  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> hello
15:24:25  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> ello
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15:26:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> anyone up for some building madness
15:27:06  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> what do you have in mind?
15:27:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> a proper SLH 06
15:27:30  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but it has to move at least 5 tiles south
15:27:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so a big rebuild
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15:29:49  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> that's  a complete rebuild i think
15:29:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
15:32:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so anyone wanna help?
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15:33:29  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> place some signs with your plan for the rebuild?
15:33:43  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> well hmm
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15:33:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i can do that yes
15:34:14  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i can help, but i don't think that you need my help :D
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15:35:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> there two signs for a start
15:35:25  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hello Mazur
15:35:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, Vin.
15:35:44  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> hi
15:35:50  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And DOM.
15:36:02  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Where are we messing about?
15:36:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> SLH 06
15:36:42  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Good show getting rid of those bridges.
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15:40:09  <Vinnie_nl> Vinnie down
15:40:24  <Vinnie_nl> !password
15:40:24  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: steeps
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15:43:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Lo, TWerk.
15:45:05  <TWerkhoven> ola
15:48:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmm now i need to think again :)
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15:49:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I don;t know what the ultimate goal is, so feel free.
15:49:18  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> o rebuild slh 06
15:49:20  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> completly
15:49:44  <PublicServer> <Mazur> To what purpose?
15:50:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> how did it unjam?
15:50:12  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> get rid of the bridges  :D
15:50:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what bridges?
15:51:03  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> mazur said that
15:51:22  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i think te bridges over the ml
15:51:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we now have space to make a better merger :)
15:52:03  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> yes
15:54:38  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> should we also move it here
15:54:40  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ?
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16:02:07  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> so much traffic on two lines :D
16:02:50  <PublicServer> <Mazur> SL exitt was faster, not it's jammming.
16:03:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> because inner isnt connected yet
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16:04:39  <Vinnie_nl> !password
16:04:41  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: inlets
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16:08:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Moved the second ML to tracfk 3 tiles south, that last end.
16:11:30  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i hate HQ
16:12:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it costs 215 mil to relocate :)
16:13:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> If you want it out of the way: !here
16:14:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ok.
16:15:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i removed track :)
16:15:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> who made it?
16:16:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Might have been my mistake.
16:18:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Btw, backjam is now round, I siggest an unload pause.
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16:18:50  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yep
16:24:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> there
16:26:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> ANd another useless sawmill emerges.
16:28:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Dominik2000: did you help a little?
16:28:47  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> yes
16:29:16  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Both of use interfered with your work.  ;-)
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16:29:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> rehi, Absolutis.
16:29:34  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hi guys, what are you doing
16:29:37  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> thats shit
16:29:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the new SLH is shit?
16:30:06  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> no, the sawmill
16:30:09  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> :D
16:31:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i feel BBH 03 to East needs an upgrade
16:32:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it gets a lot of waves
16:32:40  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> yes it jams time to time
16:33:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets cheat it
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16:34:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> shall i do it?
16:34:36  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i'll help
16:35:05  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> ah, just that?
16:35:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
16:35:18  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> sorry i can only specate, have to do other work...
16:35:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that part has low traffic anyway
16:35:52  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> we could take some more trains, i think
16:36:04  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> maybe 1850?
16:36:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes sure
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16:39:35  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> oo, possible jam detected
16:39:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cool, where?
16:39:59  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> slonham farm
16:40:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> stupid primaries
16:41:03  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> if one more train comes to that q, there you have your jam
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16:41:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> well for the other side of the farm i already sold 3 trains
16:41:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> same reason :)
16:41:50  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> ah, ok
16:42:00  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Perhaps one or two too many.
16:42:08  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> lemme actually check threats of jams
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16:42:44  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> of primaries. ofc
16:43:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> The trains werte proably just crunched into a wave by the SLH rebuild.
16:45:43  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> nope, no jam threats, but some stations have some queueing
16:47:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wtf
16:48:08  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> what?
16:48:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we have traps
16:48:30  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> where?
16:48:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> after both steel pickups
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16:50:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ohh the orderlist is changed for steel
16:50:29  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yes
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16:53:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke cya later
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16:57:18  <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> cya
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17:04:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Off.
17:04:08  <PublicServer> <Mazur> BYe.
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17:25:09  <Thorinbur> welcome all
17:25:33  <Thorinbur> !playercount
17:25:34  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Number of players: 6 (4 spectators)
17:25:41  <Thorinbur> !pass
17:25:44  <Thorinbur> !password
17:25:44  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: udders
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17:27:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> is the network working fine?
17:28:15  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> depends on your definition of fine
17:28:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no jams and so on. I think it might be time for another limit change
17:30:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> there are quite a few industries that had grown and are poorly serviced
17:30:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and there is a lot of steel waiting
17:32:03  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> 1k is a lot?
17:33:35  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i think enought to add more trains
17:33:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> it is not dropping below 1k
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17:33:53  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> 1.6 now
17:34:16  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> if we are going higher we should probably not add more wood trains
17:36:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> a see a lot of primaries that have 1 goods waiting on the station
17:36:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> with simmilar production
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17:38:26  <Thorinbur> oh
17:38:34  <Thorinbur> were you building something?
17:38:58  <Thorinbur> i can get back in if you want to unpause the game
17:39:34  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> wasn't doing any building
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17:54:13  <TWerkhoven> i0
17:54:13  <TWerkhoven> +
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21:14:33  <MDGrein> !password
21:14:33  <PublicServer> MDGrein: bowler
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21:23:26  <PublicServer> <Mazur> There, you can do stuff, now.
21:23:40  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> was mostly just lookin about
21:24:18  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, you would, what with the game being paused an' all.
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21:27:18  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> checking out junctions and stuff
21:27:28  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> long time ago I played actively
21:27:48  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> and I wasn't especially good back then either :)
21:29:18  <V453000> we remember you dont worry :p
21:30:01  <MDGrein> I'm honored :)
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21:35:42  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> what is this, an unconnected mine :)
21:35:48  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> aw crud, trainlimit
21:43:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yeah, we're usually up aginst one by this stage.
21:44:21  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> true
21:45:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> But don't worry, it'll get upped quite soon, since there seem to be no network problems left.
21:47:19  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> just a smidge in BBH04 and BBH01
21:47:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Where in 01?
21:48:17  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> at the dominik rebuild
21:48:27  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah that.
21:48:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Wave.
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21:49:05  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> yeah the clogging at 04 is more constant
21:49:17  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> the 3+3>4 merger
21:51:09  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> but it's working so nothing major
21:51:13  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Just a busy merger, everything seems to get through, though not everything at once.
21:52:35  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> precisely
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21:54:27  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Rather inherent to a BBH.
21:55:09  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> especially when 6 lines become 4
21:55:42  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And hte split is afterr the join.  Because of space.
21:57:32  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> good point.
21:57:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, that's hte SLH splt, of course, the BBH split is before the join.
21:58:33  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> I've lost my ability to distinguish the diffrent parts
21:59:09  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> I'ts mostly labeled under "complex shtuffs" atm
21:59:11  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm, helped here because I worked with Vinnie when he rebuild stuff here.
21:59:22  <Thorinbur> :)
22:00:31  <Thorinbur> And i gained abillity to distinguish parts but still have a problem to figure out what line is from where
22:01:00  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> is all very confusing but strangely soothing to look at
22:01:17  <Thorinbur> There were few monsters here efore
22:02:04  <Thorinbur> where there was split before merge that partially merges again and than another split to the actual hub
22:02:06  <Thorinbur> and so on
22:02:32  <Thorinbur> such things drive me crazy when i am trying to understand why
22:03:06  <V453000> .. :)
22:03:31  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> most of the things the op's build is far beyond me and I watch in awe
22:03:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I usually dispense with the why and concentrate on the _how_.
22:04:25  <Mazur> Oh, V, when we get more trains, your BBH01 might get into (more) trouble.
22:04:47  <Thorinbur> i concentrate on why but than again when it comes to building i can only put theory on the table and than i look hoplessly on maze of tracks
22:04:58  <Mazur> then
22:05:11  <Thorinbur> thinking: I know what i want but how the hell am i supposed to fit that
22:05:26  <Thorinbur> and make that work best
22:05:32  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> stupid terraformin rules and goddamned antennas...
22:05:34  <Thorinbur> i need more practise
22:06:34  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> likewise
22:06:39  <V453000> I have work now, but I will play tomorrow :p
22:07:02  <Mazur> We'll enjoy your company.  :-)
22:07:02  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> hope to see you then
22:07:22  <Thorinbur> I am going to play L4D2. I will be later:)
22:07:42  <Mazur> THat BBH will be thouroughly ripped to part and rebuild differently, of course.
22:08:40  <V453000> dont worry ;)
22:09:41  <Mazur> be happy.
22:10:15  <Mazur> Woooo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo, etc.
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22:12:12  <MDGrein> I'm off
22:12:25  <MDGrein> C ya dudes and dudettes
22:13:39  <Mazur> Bye,.
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23:15:45  <V453000> !password
23:15:45  <PublicServer> V453000: mantle
23:16:08  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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23:16:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> hail
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23:16:12  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Lo/
23:16:46  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I think most problems are solved again.
23:17:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> good, I am just being WTF at why merge tracks first in BBH 01 and then split them again ... I assume choices were the aim
23:17:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Originally it was two bridges per track.
23:17:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> I know it was
23:18:21  <PublicServer> <Mazur> But the first line got overloaded.
23:18:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Domonik made them merge.
23:18:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> well it works for now
23:18:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> might not work for long but lets see
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23:19:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And I reconnected the four bridges all.
23:19:20  <PublicServer> <Mazur> The joins already jams at waves, temporarily.
23:19:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> there are waves?
23:19:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> There were waves.
23:20:03  <PublicServer> <Mazur> But there have been massive waits during rebuilds.
23:20:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> the steel definitely used to be a source of them, now that should be gone
23:20:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> ah
23:20:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> well .. rebuilds .. :)
23:20:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> SO after that there were waves for some time.
23:20:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> just a jam side effect, not a "real" wave :p
23:20:52  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes.
23:21:02  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Nevertheless a wave.
23:21:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D k
23:21:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> first thing I would like to achieve is muuuch less goods waiting
23:21:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2k at grain, 3k at livestock just sucks ass
23:21:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> same for steel and sawmill
23:21:58  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 2k at steel.
23:22:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> AND that also makes waves
23:22:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'll get my board out.
23:22:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> so probably even with either some boom boom action and overflow staton making , or just adding overflows
23:23:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I like overflows.
23:23:22  <planetmaker> !playercount
23:23:22  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Number of players: 4 (0 spectators)
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23:23:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> they will definitely help in this case
23:24:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> we could go hardcore and just manage train counts manually, but well..
23:25:03  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yeah.
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23:27:13  <PublicServer> <Mazur> OIl goods are with the program.
23:28:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Steek pikcup is good now, too.
23:28:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm, any idea of a good .ac3 -> any regular format convertor?
23:29:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> not too good :) having trains waiting at all times would be nicer
23:29:56  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ac3?
23:30:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah :|
23:30:24  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 3 phase alternarting current?
23:30:30  <PublicServer> <Mazur> -r
23:30:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> guess that isnt the thing :D
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23:31:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Depends.
23:31:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I might have interpreted it wrong.
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23:32:08  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Possibly even intentional.  Though I think that is not the case.
23:33:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Steel PU up to 2k again.
23:33:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> not surprising :)
23:33:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm I will have to leave, processor cant take openttd and some rendering
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