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00:04:23 *** bassals has quit IRC 00:21:37 *** Qanael has joined #openttdcoop 00:21:52 <Qanael> Hi everyone 00:25:51 *** Mucht has quit IRC 00:26:30 <Qanael> !download 00:26:30 <PublicServer> Qanael: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x 00:26:30 <PublicServer> Qanael: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r23596 00:26:38 <Qanael> !download win64 00:26:38 <PublicServer> Qanael: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r23596/openttd-trunk-r23596-windows-win64.zip 00:48:13 <Qanael> !password 00:48:13 <PublicServer> Qanael: milker 00:49:38 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 00:49:40 <PublicServer> *** Qanael joined the game 00:52:47 <PublicServer> *** Qanael has left the game (connection lost) 01:00:58 *** Progman has quit IRC 01:01:38 <Qanael> !curve 01:01:38 <PublicServer> Qanael: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Max_Curve_Speed 01:58:03 *** pugi has quit IRC 01:58:22 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 01:59:23 <Sylf> !password 01:59:24 <PublicServer> Sylf: slacks 01:59:45 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 01:59:46 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 02:00:03 *** pugi has quit IRC 02:05:38 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 02:17:12 *** Eightbitpwny has joined #openttdcoop 03:23:11 *** `real has quit IRC 03:25:39 *** `real has joined #openttdcoop 04:08:49 *** Ardonel has left #openttdcoop 04:57:47 *** Etedris has quit IRC 05:05:40 *** Qanael has quit IRC 05:14:48 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 05:14:51 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 05:15:10 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 06:38:37 *** Eightbitpwny has left #openttdcoop 06:54:14 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 07:15:54 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 07:36:39 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 07:56:53 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 08:02:44 <Mark> !password 08:02:44 <PublicServer> Mark: slacks 08:03:13 <Mark> !password 08:03:13 <PublicServer> Mark: slacks 08:03:54 <Mark> !players 08:03:56 <PublicServer> Mark: There are currently no clients connected to the server 08:04:03 <Mark> ? 08:06:00 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 08:12:04 *** Mark has quit IRC 08:12:37 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 08:17:23 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 08:17:23 *** Webster sets mode: +o Mark 08:17:24 <Webster> Hi! From all your Coop Friends! 08:20:46 <Mark> !password 08:20:46 <PublicServer> Mark: slacks 08:21:15 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 08:21:16 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 08:33:32 *** Mark has quit IRC 08:37:07 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 08:37:07 *** Webster sets mode: +o Mark 08:37:08 <Webster> Hi! From all your Coop Friends! 08:40:41 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 08:43:39 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 08:43:39 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 08:59:33 *** Mark has quit IRC 09:00:42 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 09:00:42 *** Webster sets mode: +o Mark 09:00:44 <Webster> Hi! From all your Coop Friends! 09:01:02 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 09:30:49 *** Artix has joined #openttdcoop 09:31:43 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 09:36:28 *** Firartix has quit IRC 09:37:38 *** bassals has joined #openttdcoop 09:49:38 *** ODM has quit IRC 09:53:51 *** LXSJason has quit IRC 10:04:45 *** vinnie_nl has joined #openttdcoop 10:05:46 <vinnie_nl> PublicServer: !playercount 10:12:40 *** vinnie_nl has quit IRC 10:20:17 *** Tray has quit IRC 10:33:12 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 12:00:48 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 12:03:10 *** Brumi has joined #openttdcoop 12:06:53 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined spectators 12:13:32 *** dr_gonzo_ has joined #openttdcoop 12:20:03 <StarLite> !players 12:20:05 <PublicServer> StarLite: Client 697 is Mark, a spectator 12:50:56 *** dr_gonzo_ has quit IRC 13:08:30 *** Brumi has quit IRC 13:09:11 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 13:20:23 *** omenchild has joined #openttdcoop 13:20:31 <omenchild> hello? 13:21:04 <omenchild> eh? 13:21:23 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 13:21:58 <KenjiE20> hello 13:22:29 <omenchild> anyone here got 32bbp trains and that? 13:33:49 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 13:34:38 *** omenchild has quit IRC 13:42:33 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 14:27:21 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop 14:27:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 14:28:15 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop 14:28:15 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop 14:28:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o V453000 14:28:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o planetmaker 14:28:19 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop 14:28:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tneo 14:29:15 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop 14:29:37 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 14:29:38 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 14:29:45 *** Osai has joined #openttdcoop 14:29:46 *** XeryusTC has joined #openttdcoop 14:29:46 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o XeryusTC 14:30:45 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop 14:30:45 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 14:34:54 <Webster> Latest update from openttd: Hello Yogscast viewers! <http://www.openttd.org/en/news/158> || OpenTTD 1.1.4 <http://www.openttd.org/en/news/157> || OpenTTD 1.1.4-RC1 <http://www.openttd.org/en/news/156> || OpenTTD 1.1.3 <http://www.openttd.org/en/news/155> || OpenTTD 1.1.3-RC1 <http://www.openttd.org/en/news/154> 14:34:56 <Webster> Latest update from blog: Battle of the accents: ProZone game 19 review <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/12/15/battle-of-the-accents-prozone-game-19-review/> || Wiki Cleanup <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/12/12/wiki-cleanup/> || Logo Contest & Wiki rebuild <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/12/06/logo-contest-wiki-rebuild/> || NUTS: Revolution among train sets? <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/10/18/nuts-revolution-among-train-sets/> || A look at the inner workings. <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/09/28/a-look-at-the-inner-workings/> || Good bye and good luck <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/09/28/good-bye-and-good-luck/> || Junctionary Reconstruction <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/09/27/junctionary-reconstruction/> || PSG #214: New client record <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/09/11/psg-214-new-client-record/> || Back to the Basics (Signals How,What,When and even Where) <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/09/10/back-to-the-basics-signals-howwhatwhen-and-even-where/> || More time lapses <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/08/31/more-timelapses/> 14:38:37 *** Vinnie_nl has joined #openttdcoop 14:38:51 <Vinnie_nl> !password 14:38:51 <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: slacks 14:38:58 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:39:00 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 14:39:08 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 14:42:29 <Maraxus> !password 14:42:29 <PublicServer> Maraxus: slacks 14:42:50 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:42:50 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 14:42:52 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 14:42:55 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 14:43:29 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 14:44:06 *** Etedris has joined #openttdcoop 14:55:12 *** Artix has quit IRC 14:56:12 *** Qanael has joined #openttdcoop 15:08:38 *** Etedris has quit IRC 15:11:13 *** perk11 has quit IRC 15:11:30 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined company #1 15:13:52 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 15:14:23 <Mark> think we'll get away with a FIRS game on the PS? 15:14:43 <Mark> it'd be absolute chaos i think 15:15:44 <Mark> would need some strict building conventions 15:16:06 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 15:17:08 <TWerkhoven[l]> don't see it happening 15:17:24 <TWerkhoven[l]> though who knows, all it needs is someone to load a firs-map on the server 15:17:51 <Mark> that could be me. 15:18:21 <TWerkhoven[l]> :) 15:18:43 <Mark> dont want anyone shooting me for it though 15:18:47 <Mark> figured i'd ask in advance 15:18:54 <Mark> in case it's already been tried and failed miserably 15:19:10 <TWerkhoven[l]> dont recall any, but i've only been here a short wile 15:19:22 <Mark> ive missed most of the last 80 games 15:19:40 <TWerkhoven[l]> yeah, you went to aussie, right? 15:19:44 <Mark> yep 15:19:56 <TWerkhoven[l]> i read your userpage when i was going through the wiki 15:20:08 <Mark> back home for a bit now 15:20:09 <TWerkhoven[l]> how's it feel to be back in good ol nl? 15:20:21 <Mark> pretty cold, miserable and boring 15:20:28 <Mark> xmas will be fun though 15:20:47 <Mark> although i could've spent xmas sitting on the beach drinking beer and bbq-ing :P 15:20:55 <TWerkhoven[l]> so are you living in aussie now and just visiting home? 15:21:03 <Mark> im not living there... yet 15:21:09 <Mark> probably moving there before next summer though 15:21:13 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> new map always nice :) 15:21:30 <TWerkhoven[l]> moving always fun 15:21:46 <Mark> only think keeping me here now is family really 15:21:51 <TWerkhoven[l]> <-- dutchie, but have lived in bonnie scotland for a lil over 5 years now 15:22:01 <TWerkhoven[l]> bit closer than aussie, and the weather's no different really 15:22:06 <Mark> :P 15:24:50 <Mark> is FIRS finished yet? 15:25:30 <TWerkhoven[l]> is any grf ever actually finished? 15:28:07 <Mark> good point 15:29:29 <Vinnie_nl> FIRS works fine atm 15:32:11 *** Qanael has quit IRC 15:32:41 <Mark> i'll make a firs map in a bit 15:32:44 <Mark> lets give it a go 15:32:48 <Mark> beer first 15:34:01 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 15:34:19 <XeryusTC> beer :D 15:49:33 *** bassals has joined #openttdcoop 15:53:45 *** StarLite has joined #openttdcoop 16:19:24 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 16:44:39 *** Eightbitpwny has joined #openttdcoop 16:46:29 *** Brumi has joined #openttdcoop 16:46:39 <Brumi> !players 16:46:42 <PublicServer> Brumi: Client 779 is Vinnie, a spectator 16:46:42 <PublicServer> Brumi: Client 781 is Maraxus, a spectator 16:46:48 <Brumi> !password 16:46:48 <PublicServer> Brumi: browns 16:47:33 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:47:36 <PublicServer> *** Brumi joined the game 16:47:37 <PublicServer> <Brumi> hello 16:47:39 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 16:55:58 <StarLite> !password 16:55:58 <PublicServer> StarLite: wobble 16:56:06 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:56:07 <PublicServer> *** StarLite joined the game 16:56:34 <PublicServer> <StarLite> this map still going then? 16:57:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> to mutch promisses lately. yeterday V gave us a map and today dear mark was trying a FIRS map. 16:57:27 <PublicServer> <StarLite> ooo FIRS,nice :D 16:58:09 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> FIRS means you better know what you are doing when creating a plan 16:58:16 <PublicServer> <StarLite> true 16:58:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> to balance the network with equal traffic will be hard 16:58:36 <PublicServer> <StarLite> you gotta have played it at least once before 16:58:46 <PublicServer> <StarLite> before you can really grasp it 16:59:48 <PublicServer> <StarLite> I would absolutely LOVE to do an SNRW FIRS map one day 17:00:02 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and iirc each primary can go to the max production. So you either not connect to mutch primaries or you make a SLH for only 2 - 3 primaries 17:00:14 <PublicServer> <StarLite> true 17:00:24 <PublicServer> <StarLite> you max them quite easily 17:00:46 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but cargo games are so mutch more fun then pax :) 17:00:49 <PublicServer> <StarLite> currently playing a FIRS game on another server 17:00:59 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the BBH and SLH expansions are lovely to work on 17:01:13 <PublicServer> <StarLite> and I had throughput problems on my sideline with only 5 industries on it... 17:01:19 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> a UK server most likely 17:01:29 <PublicServer> <StarLite> dutch actually :) 17:01:43 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ohh that changes a lot 17:03:53 <PublicServer> <StarLite> I like cargo maps more then pax as well yeh 17:05:08 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> may i know the servername? 17:05:14 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> to look at your network? 17:05:32 <PublicServer> <StarLite> yeh 17:05:52 <PublicServer> <StarLite> [GOT] Mevius #1 17:05:58 <PublicServer> <StarLite> server pw: mevink 17:07:13 * Brumi also peeks at that game 17:18:01 <PublicServer> *** StarLite has left the game (leaving) 17:39:01 <PublicServer> *** Brumi has joined company #1 17:39:49 <PublicServer> <Brumi> ehm... I fail to see the reason for that crossing at sign HERE :) 17:40:09 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> could you place an ! mark in the from of the sign 17:40:15 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> makes it easier to find 17:41:49 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i can't find your sign 17:43:51 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> do you know the meaning of synced tracks? 17:43:57 <PublicServer> <Brumi> nope 17:44:11 <PublicServer> <Brumi> so is it on purpose? :D 17:44:41 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you understand it is a double track to minimalise the gap? 17:44:47 <PublicServer> <Brumi> yeah 17:45:17 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke the first rule is that both tracks need to be the same length. Straght tiles and diagonal tiles 17:45:52 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the X ensures that both tracks have an equal amount of straight and diagonal tracks 17:47:15 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> do you understand the X now? 17:47:21 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> @@sync 17:47:33 <PublicServer> <Brumi> the purpose... yes 17:48:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Line_sync 17:48:22 <PublicServer> <Brumi> it's there because space is constrained at the split? 17:48:52 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes this ensures we do not have curves that are to tight at the split 17:49:14 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but there are never two trains on the X so it will not jam 17:50:13 <PublicServer> <Brumi> true... 18:01:13 *** Thraxian has joined #openttdcoop 18:01:22 <Thraxian> g'day all 18:01:48 <Brumi> hello 18:02:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 18:06:27 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 18:07:12 <Thraxian> are we still building this ICE game? 18:07:22 <Thraxian> it's getting laggy to the point that I can't play any more 18:08:15 <PublicServer> <Brumi> AFAIK a new game is being planned 18:08:38 <PublicServer> <Brumi> but Vinnie knows more details 18:08:56 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> V made a map yesterday but mark was busy with one to 18:09:20 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> whant the link for V because most people are done t]with thi 18:09:27 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> done with this one 18:11:49 <PublicServer> <Brumi> and it will be FIRS if I understood correctly 18:12:11 <Vinnie_nl> mark will be firs V is toyland no grf 18:12:37 <Thraxian> toys for christmas break again? seems like we did that last year too 18:13:01 <Vinnie_nl> it was the last time we did toyland on PS 18:13:16 <PublicServer> <Brumi> and who decides which map will be used? 18:16:39 <V453000> FIRS is not a bad idea, I agree >] 18:16:41 <V453000> :) 18:17:33 <Vinnie_nl> could we do that today so we start building on xmas? if we vote tommorow 18:17:58 <V453000> why not? 18:19:26 <Thraxian> normally, the admins shut down the server on christmas 18:19:47 <Thraxian> historically, they have felt that christmas day is better spent with family then playing with train sets 18:20:08 <V453000> I am not going to be here tomorrow either way, so I dont care too much tbh :) 18:21:48 <Vinnie_nl> well a shut server is not a problem but the map is quite done if i look at what people made in the past week. 18:23:39 <PublicServer> <Brumi> I was not very lucky to join the public server for the first time just to see an almost finished game :) 18:27:14 <PublicServer> <Brumi> well, merry Christmas if I don't return by then 18:27:54 <PublicServer> *** Brumi has left the game (leaving) 18:28:09 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 18:28:30 *** Brumi has quit IRC 18:28:43 *** Firartix has quit IRC 18:30:23 <Thraxian> I'm reading up on FIRS, and I don't recall ever playing with the level of detail and sophistication that FIRS requires to be 100% efficient 18:31:10 <Thraxian> regular delivery of materials and small supply vehicles - sounds more complex than the usual "take as much as you can as far as you can" mentality we typically use 18:32:49 <V453000> unfortunately the latest release is 0.6.4 which is very different from the latest nightlies :( 18:33:35 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 18:33:42 <V453000> but the next release isnt expected anytime soon, so I guess we should just ignore that 18:36:46 <Thraxian> so we're not picking up the 0.7.0 beta1? 18:37:31 <planetmaker> V453000: Thraxian wait one game 18:37:47 <V453000> yes I thought so 18:38:04 <planetmaker> 'not anytime soon' might be wrong we consider a beta2 18:38:07 <V453000> and in a month I might have working nuts too 18:38:27 <Thraxian> any plans to play with the FIRS beta on pro or member? 18:38:37 <Thraxian> or we just going to open it up on the public? 18:38:45 <planetmaker> Thraxian: I'd also wait with that for it being on bananas. 18:39:03 <Thraxian> planetmaker: sounds like a good idea 18:39:05 <planetmaker> but I need to talk through that with andy once more 18:39:45 <Thraxian> it looks really good. Is there a way to tell the production cap of a secondary, or is it solely based on the amount of primaries delivered? 18:39:59 <Thraxian> (if there's such a difference between primary and secondary!) 18:50:52 <planetmaker> the production cap is (in FIRS or default) for secondary industries not by the industry but by the game mechanics 18:51:22 <StarLite> theres a hard limit in place afaik 18:51:43 <StarLite> you hit that limit quite quickly and after that the indus will always stay at that rate 18:51:46 <planetmaker> default is: every tile can produce 255 per production run which is 255*8 or 255*9 18:52:32 <StarLite> just over 1 mil tonnes/mont for coal mines for example 18:53:31 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 1 milion is very wrong 18:55:03 *** sla_ro|vista has joined #openttdcoop 18:57:03 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 19:00:17 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 19:27:10 *** Thraxian has quit IRC 19:56:56 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 20:08:21 *** Artix has joined #openttdcoop 20:11:49 *** dlr365 has joined #openttdcoop 20:12:33 *** Firartix has quit IRC 20:19:13 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 20:25:03 *** Artix has quit IRC 21:08:38 *** dlr365 has quit IRC 21:18:11 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 21:18:11 *** StarLite|mobile has joined #openttdcoop 21:24:35 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 21:39:45 <Vinnie_nl> !ping 21:39:45 <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: pong 21:44:00 <StarLite|mobile> !pong 21:47:34 *** StarLiteMobile has joined #openttdcoop 21:53:28 *** StarLite|mobile has quit IRC 21:59:25 *** StarLiteMobile has quit IRC 22:09:16 <Mark> firs or toyland? 22:09:44 <Vinnie_nl> FIRS please 22:18:46 <V453000> FIRS indeed ... Mark: if you want a hint on the train set(s), I recommend combining multiple sets so every cargo gets its own wagons 22:21:16 *** sla_ro|vista has quit IRC 22:22:44 <V453000> Mark: I have an old screenshot of my trainyard here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20419525/Kingdom%20of%20FIRS%2C%202073-03-16.png 22:23:30 <TWerkhoven[l]> dbset? 22:24:17 <bassals> is this for the new game? 22:24:35 <V453000> DB set, US set, NARS, UKRS, tropic refurbishment 22:25:46 *** Mark has quit IRC 22:26:20 <TWerkhoven[l]> thats a lot of trainsets 22:26:21 <TWerkhoven[l]> lot of trains too right enough 22:27:00 <Vinnie_nl> that gives a nice choice into the amount of cargo for each train. 22:37:58 *** Ayero has joined #openttdcoop 22:45:29 *** StarLite has quit IRC 22:56:58 *** Etedris has joined #openttdcoop 23:29:01 *** Firartix has quit IRC 23:52:40 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:57:20 *** bassals has quit IRC