Log for #openttdcoop on 7th February 2012:
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03:01:17  <theholyduck> !password
03:01:17  <PublicServer> theholyduck: chasms
03:01:47  <Cubey>  !x64
03:01:48  <Cubey> Er
03:01:51  <Cubey> !x64
03:01:53  <Cubey> What is it?
03:01:55  <Cubey> I forget
03:01:58  <theholyduck> !dl win64
03:01:58  <PublicServer> theholyduck:
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03:02:07  <Cubey> Thanks
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03:02:39  <theholyduck> torrents screwed me over :P
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03:05:11  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so, what do you think
03:05:12  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> cubey
03:05:22  <PublicServer> <Cubey> I think this is making my game slower than it should be
03:05:28  <PublicServer> <Cubey> Maybe it's because I enabled the 32 bit blitter
03:07:14  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> derp. my junction had signal issues
03:08:33  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> that said, i did make this thing while pretty tired, so theres bound to be some mistakes in it
03:09:04  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> do you like how 6L_6R looks cubey?
03:09:04  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> pretty massive eh
03:09:08  <PublicServer> <Cubey> Oh god yes
03:09:26  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> once its done all the way through, we can add more trains
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03:12:05  <Cubey> !password
03:12:05  <PublicServer> Cubey: lusted
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03:14:20  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> looks like it has a bug though :P
03:14:38  <PublicServer> <Cubey> Trains go in, trains come out
03:14:40  <PublicServer> <Cubey> Can't explain that
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03:16:04  <theholyduck> tired of looking?
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03:23:28  <PublicServer> xav: lusted
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07:43:39  <V453000> !password
07:43:39  <PublicServer> V453000: fizzed
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07:50:01  <V453000> Oh
07:50:10  <V453000> psg 223 is also missing
07:50:15  <V453000> old file again
07:51:53  <V453000> I have one from year 2203
07:57:25  <Mark> dont tell me i made the same mistake
07:57:32  <Mark> at least i've got the final save for 223
07:57:39  <Mark> 2244
08:01:37  <V453000> you apparently did :S
08:02:07  <V453000> idk why dont you instantly download the save from the transfer it gives you :) I always do that to make sure
08:02:40  <Mark> i usually make a save to my own computer
08:02:44  <Mark> like i did with 223
08:02:57  <Mark> now how do i replace it...
08:03:00  <theholyduck> ;d its almost warm outside today
08:03:13  <theholyduck> i think i'm going to celebrate by going to the store without my entire stuffy set of winter clothes
08:03:15  <V453000> yeah only almost -20 here
08:03:20  <Mark> -17 here
08:03:21  <theholyduck> its only -5 today
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08:03:26  <theholyduck> its BEEN -20 for a while
08:03:29  <theholyduck> but now its warm
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08:03:39  <Mark> -17 is pretty damn cold for the netherlands
08:03:45  <theholyduck> so i'm going to just put on my warm sweater,
08:03:48  <theholyduck> a pair of gloves
08:03:52  <theholyduck> and my normal pants
08:03:57  <theholyduck> and walk outside feeling fresh
08:04:16  <V453000> returning home feeling cold, getting ill, die
08:04:16  <theholyduck> once my hair dries after the shower i just took anyway
08:04:17  <V453000> good plan
08:04:18  <V453000> :P
08:04:29  <theholyduck> V453000, normal clothes is what i wear when its -5ish usually
08:04:36  <Mark> got up to -32 in italy last week
08:04:38  <Mark> that was cold
08:04:48  <theholyduck> V453000, put it like this, my winter clothes are so warm
08:04:59  <V453000> -38 somewhere in czech at night :o
08:05:00  <theholyduck> that when i went to school in -33 2 years ago
08:05:05  <theholyduck> i still felt too warm
08:05:15  <V453000> :o
08:05:46  <theholyduck> so yeah, i dont really want to put them on for -5
08:06:11  <theholyduck> normally i'd just put a rainjacket over my sweater
08:06:16  <theholyduck> but my rainjacket is somewhere else
08:06:27  <theholyduck> so, its going to be warm indoors clothes for me outside today
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08:07:54  <Mark> !password
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08:14:32  <Webster> Latest update from blog: A look at the inner workings. <>
08:15:03  <Mark> ?
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08:16:34  <planetmaker> no idea
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10:08:10  <Osai> !playercount
10:08:10  <PublicServer> Osai: Number of players: 1 (1 spectators)
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10:51:38  <Tray> !password
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11:13:13  <V453000> !password
11:13:13  <PublicServer> V453000: groovy
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11:13:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> time to kick ass and chew bubble gum!
11:13:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
11:13:34  <PublicServer> <bassals> hello
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11:15:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> wondering if I want to make this station "holy shit sized"
11:16:18  <PublicServer> <bassals> to hold 6 lines?
11:16:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> guess I wont have other choice :D
11:16:25  <pugi> give me bubble gum :D
11:16:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
11:16:33  <V453000> sorry out of gum pugi :p
11:16:36  <pugi> damn :D
11:18:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm
11:18:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> this will be ridicuously large
11:18:24  <PublicServer> <bassals> yeah
11:19:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> it will be barely but should be ok I guess
11:21:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> might be a good idea to move it to the corner of the map
11:21:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> saves almost good 20 tiles
11:22:22  <PublicServer> <bassals> there's a TV tower
11:22:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will kill the obstacling industries and the tower and be right back
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11:24:50  <V453000> !rcon server_pw
11:24:50  <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'server_password' is: 'lambda'
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11:25:11  <V453000> !auto
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11:28:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm :รบ)
11:28:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> get ready to jam
11:30:01  <Zaitzev> hi
11:30:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
11:30:33  <Zaitzev> sup?
11:30:50  <Mark> !password
11:30:50  <PublicServer> Mark: yodels
11:30:59  <Mark> is that even a word?
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11:31:01  <Mark> yodels?
11:31:06  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> tada
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11:31:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> unfortuntely is :)
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11:31:51  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> how do I disable those annoying bottom popups?
11:32:01  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> I can't sit and watch all the "very old" messages :P
11:32:04  <PublicServer> <Mark> click the newspaper icon in your upper right screen
11:32:10  <PublicServer> <Mark> go to message settings
11:32:16  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> ah, there it was
11:32:16  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> ty
11:32:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> np
11:32:52  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> i'm a bit rusty :P
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11:34:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will just obliterate south for now
11:37:32  <PublicServer> <Mark> uh oh
11:37:46  <PublicServer> <Mark> oh well
11:37:52  <PublicServer> <Mark> good moment to redo SLH02 i suppose
11:37:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
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11:40:35  <Maraxus> !password
11:40:35  <PublicServer> Maraxus: yodels
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11:40:58  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
11:41:04  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> hey
11:41:06  <PublicServer> <Mark> hello
11:41:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> haiho
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11:43:08  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> heh, south station looks like a disaster area xD
11:43:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is exactly what is happening
11:43:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> master of disaster at work
11:43:31  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> :P
11:43:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> :d
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11:45:28  <PublicServer> <Mark> theres 6 input lanes for you
11:45:31  <PublicServer> <Mark> output
11:45:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> great thanks
11:47:30  <V453000> @calc 6*12
11:47:30  <Webster> V453000: 72
11:47:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> platforms :)
11:47:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> dont tell me you need a calculator for that
11:48:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> I just came from -20 dude
11:48:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am fucking FROZEN :D
11:48:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> :D
11:50:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> christ the industries might be too close
11:52:03  <theholyduck> uguu.
11:52:12  <theholyduck> tired
11:52:20  * theholyduck lives too far from civilization
11:52:26  <theholyduck> the trip from the store and back is 10km
11:52:33  <theholyduck> it wasnt actually all that cold though
11:52:44  <Zaitzev> you WALKED? :P
11:52:49  <theholyduck> Zaitzev, obviously
11:52:54  <theholyduck> dont have a car, theres no busses
11:52:57  <theholyduck> my bike isnt here
11:52:59  <Zaitzev> ><
11:53:00  <theholyduck> and i got nothing else.
11:53:13  <Zaitzev> at least you're back home in one piece :P
11:53:18  <theholyduck> Zaitzev, so yeah, i walked 10km to spend the last bit of my cash on some cola
11:53:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> he didnt say that Zaitzev
11:53:30  <Zaitzev> hehehe, you must really want some cola then
11:53:33  <theholyduck> Zaitzev, its just 10km though
11:53:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> one frozen piece
11:53:37  <Zaitzev> just.
11:53:37  <PublicServer> <Mark> cola?
11:53:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
11:53:37  <theholyduck> its not infinitly long
11:53:42  <PublicServer> <Mark> beer's a better investment
11:53:46  <theholyduck> Zaitzev, i walk it 2-3 times a week
11:53:49  <theholyduck> when i'm here
11:53:57  <Zaitzev> that's...uh..healthy.
11:54:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
11:54:34  <theholyduck> well, i stuck 1 of my colas in the freezer, put on the ovena
11:54:40  <theholyduck> and soon i'll have cola and fries
11:54:43  <theholyduck> and it will all be worth it
11:54:46  <Zaitzev> 1 1/2 hour in the freezer for 1.5 liter cola
11:54:49  <Zaitzev> that's perfect
11:55:00  <theholyduck> Zaitzev, well i bought 4 of them
11:55:02  <Zaitzev> or a little more, maybe 1:45
11:55:07  <theholyduck> + a half litre to drink on the way back
11:55:10  <Zaitzev> so you get that nice slushy stuff
11:55:23  <Zaitzev> brainfreeze goo
11:55:24  <Zaitzev> ;D
11:55:46  <theholyduck> Zaitzev, well, it just spent 50 minutes in -7 c
11:55:52  <theholyduck> being transported here
11:55:58  <theholyduck> i'm just trying to chill it a bit more
12:01:36  <PublicServer> <bassals> I guess the [near end] orders don't work in 3-tile stations?
12:01:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> exactly
12:01:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> if the train was shorter it would ofc
12:01:55  <planetmaker> they are only meaningful, if the train is shorter than the station
12:02:10  <PublicServer> <bassals> and the buffer tiles don't count
12:02:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> right
12:02:16  <planetmaker> yup
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12:13:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> behold, an actual tiny change in the pattern :D
12:16:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok I have the final size
12:17:26  <Tray> !password
12:17:26  <PublicServer> Tray: weaves
12:17:37  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> what was the hotkey to close all open windows?
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12:17:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> del
12:18:56  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> 10 minutes left
12:19:02  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> :]
12:19:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> 10 minutes of?
12:19:20  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> till I get the cola out of the freezer ;P
12:19:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh :d
12:19:30  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> yum ;D
12:19:49  <bassals> do you also have to walk some kilometers to get it?
12:19:57  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> haha
12:19:59  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> more like
12:20:01  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> 30 feet
12:20:07  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> 10 meters :P
12:26:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> can you please clone the prios like this? .)
12:26:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> whoever was the helful hand :)
12:27:08  <theholyduck> !password
12:27:08  <PublicServer> theholyduck: secede
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12:27:48  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> this is starting to get absurd :P
12:27:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> ^^
12:28:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> blame ... someone
12:28:34  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, all these rebuilt slhs look crazy
12:28:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> MrD2DG started the triple expansions!
12:28:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is all his fault
12:29:05  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> also lol all the jams
12:29:32  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i guess jam is the wrong word in this case
12:29:35  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> more, nowhere to go
12:29:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> just stop. :)
12:29:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> they needed a little break
12:30:18  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> poor tired trains
12:31:14  <theholyduck> initially i thought the game was paused or something
12:31:54  <PublicServer> <Mark> the forests are dying! :P
12:32:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
12:32:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> they will prosper after this
12:32:33  <PublicServer> <Mark> :)
12:32:55  <PublicServer> <Mark> you can go around that printing works quite easily
12:33:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is still one exit to go
12:33:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will probably put the industries in the corner when I am done
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12:36:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> can also make it a tad shorter
12:36:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2 tiles
12:45:50  <PublicServer> <Mark> you can make that 2 tiles shorter aswell :P
12:46:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> not worth it
12:46:04  <PublicServer> <Mark> :D
12:46:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> well actually it could be even shorter
12:46:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> this just lengthens the exit bridge
12:46:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> by 2 tiles
12:47:00  <theholyduck> i like our operating profit graph
12:47:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> SNAKE ML :D
12:48:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is fun
12:49:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> omg it works more :)
12:50:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is getting ridiculus indeed :)))
12:52:05  <theholyduck> 6l_6r is pretty crazy indeed
12:52:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok, other half now
12:53:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> i'll hook that end up
12:53:23  <PublicServer> <Mark> if you dont mind
12:53:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is 1 more exit
12:53:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> but feel free to
12:53:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok just connect it
12:53:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will deal with that somehow
12:56:19  <PublicServer> <Mark> what are you going to do about that printing works?
12:56:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> it will either die before I finish or I will ask it to go with force
12:56:47  <PublicServer> <Mark> :D
12:56:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> their choice
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12:59:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> woops
12:59:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> bingo
12:59:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> that had to happen
13:04:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> moar space :D
13:04:46  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> want us to move the other lines?
13:04:52  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> further away that is
13:04:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> please
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13:06:26  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> how much space do you need?
13:06:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is the end
13:07:11  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> but only 3 of the lines are merging onto that right
13:07:14  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the 3 innermost lines needs to go past it
13:07:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> well all 6 lines that go into the station need to cross it
13:07:40  <PublicServer> <Mark> this is the end
13:07:43  <PublicServer> <Mark> my only friend
13:07:45  <PublicServer> <Mark> the end
13:08:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> I suggest cutting space all the way to SLH 02 and deal later
13:08:33  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ok
13:08:47  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> er
13:08:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> just let trains get lost, they arent too happy now anyway
13:08:49  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> why am i at 1 gap
13:09:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> be careful with that :P
13:12:15  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> trains cleared
13:12:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> :))
13:12:57  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> while i wasnt looking, suddenly the other side was identical
13:13:19  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> speaking of "the end" by doors
13:13:25  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its full of snakes in the lyrics isnt it?
13:13:35  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> *the doors
13:13:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> clueless
13:13:43  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, talking to mark mostly
13:13:46  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and his THIS IS THE END
13:14:38  <pugi> REPENT!
13:14:41  <pugi> THE END IS NIGH!
13:14:53  <Mark> theholyduck: the song is called "the end" :P
13:15:48  <Mark> pretty trippy song that
13:16:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> ever listened to psy/progressive trance?
13:16:06  <theholyduck> Mark, i know it is
13:16:15  <theholyduck> Mark, my point was, i think he sings about snakes somewhere in it
13:16:26  <Mark> yeah he always sings about snakes
13:16:43  <theholyduck> Mark, also the end by the doors
13:16:45  <Mark> "ride the snake west"
13:16:47  <theholyduck> as in i was correcting the band name
13:18:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok this end is in final shape
13:21:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will kill the industries
13:21:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> brb
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13:23:34  <V453000> !rcon server_pw
13:23:34  <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'server_password' is: 'lambda'
13:23:35  <V453000> !auto
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13:37:00  <Mark> !password
13:37:00  <PublicServer> Mark: baling
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13:48:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> station complete
13:50:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> waypoints are correct
13:51:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> majority of signals hopefully too
13:57:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeyy
13:58:20  <PublicServer> <Mark> 6 hours and 24 death train drivers later, we got a new station
13:58:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> 6?
13:58:40  <PublicServer> <Mark> something like that :P
13:58:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> about 3
13:58:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> I returned at about 11:45
13:58:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe even a bit later
13:59:09  <V453000> 13:13
13:59:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> :)
13:59:18  <V453000> 12:13
13:59:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> so almost 3 hours :)
14:00:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf are paper traisn doing at SL01
14:01:04  <theholyduck> don't ask me :P
14:01:05  <PublicServer> <Mark> probably lost
14:01:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh they are heading south too :D
14:01:11  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> turning around?
14:01:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
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14:01:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm im hungry
14:02:40  <theholyduck> !password
14:02:40  <PublicServer> theholyduck: paddle
14:02:50  <PublicServer> <Mark> we should do a game with magic tunnels
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14:03:01  <planetmaker> what are "magic" tunnels?
14:03:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess that desynchs
14:03:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> the cheat pm
14:03:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> the "allow tunnels to cross" cheat
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14:03:32  <planetmaker> ah. Well. They're anyway just dimensional portals :-P
14:03:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> i think tunnels arent actually tunnels, they're teleports
14:03:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> but that could get funny :D
14:03:47  <planetmaker> Mark, as are bridges ;-)
14:04:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> how far discouraged are the cheat tunnels in multiplayer?
14:04:53  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> derp
14:04:59  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> slh01 is so jammed its jamming other slhs
14:05:02  <PublicServer> <Mark> i dont think you'll get much use out of abusing them
14:05:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> how often is a tunnel in the way of another tunnel?
14:05:12  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> south bound split...
14:05:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> well it could be interesting :)
14:05:54  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> actually, wtf is going on at slh01
14:05:56  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> making that crazy jam
14:06:10  <PublicServer> <Mark> lost paper trains
14:06:13  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> also the prio
14:06:20  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> prio is jamming the split
14:06:42  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> on the other hand, the prio is sort of needed.
14:06:49  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> or the other direction is going to jam
14:06:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> weird is
14:06:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> why do paper trains go to the SL
14:07:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> they have direct path to the south station
14:07:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> they go there from both directions
14:07:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> electrification
14:07:51  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i think i have to remove the prio.
14:08:01  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> at !jams here
14:08:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> I disabled it?
14:08:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
14:08:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
14:08:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> these are feeder trains
14:08:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> just give it time now
14:08:42  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, its still jamming 3 of the lanes of the ml
14:08:50  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> or rather, ti was
14:08:53  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i guess its clearing up
14:09:22  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> er derp.
14:09:26  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> actually, how did that jam
14:09:29  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i see they arent connected
14:09:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> just feeder trains waiting
14:09:38  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> but why was the entire ml jammed therer then
14:09:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> unelectrefied
14:09:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> something inside the hub
14:09:50  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> derp
14:10:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> (likely your fault :PP)
14:10:06  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> probably
14:10:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> we might aswell disable el rail by default on ottdc
14:10:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> ugly
14:10:30  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i blame all the forests!
14:10:41  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the expansion was a bit of a pain
14:10:51  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> though. looks like 1 of the forests disapeared
14:10:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> and sometimes electrified/unelectrified rails can be used
14:11:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> so now i can add a hundred trains to my SL :)
14:11:17  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> why is the offending forest suddenly gone?
14:11:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> it was offended
14:11:28  <PublicServer> <Mark> and left
14:11:37  <PublicServer> * theholyduck looks at his entirely useless set of dobbled tunnels
14:11:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
14:11:56  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i swear, there was a forest there when i built it
14:12:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> didnt get serviced for too long
14:12:34  <Mark> !trains
14:12:37  <Mark> @op
14:12:37  *** Webster sets mode: +o Mark
14:12:38  <Mark> !trains
14:12:39  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, with that forest gone, i could probably have moved up the split a fair bit
14:12:45  <Mark> !rcon set max_trains 1000
14:12:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> want the forest back?
14:13:07  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> maybe ;P atleast then i dont look like a retard
14:13:17  <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 1
14:13:20  <V453000> fund it
14:13:40  <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 2
14:14:20  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i'm still angry bassals built all these forests like right ontop of my sl :P
14:14:22  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well "angry"
14:14:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> :))
14:14:29  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> made my expansion job much harder
14:14:32  <PublicServer> <Mark> prospecting is pretty random
14:14:36  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> on the other hand ,it was sort of fun
14:14:42  <PublicServer> <Mark> should've reserved the land around it :P
14:14:48  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well sure, but like, all of them ended up right on mine
14:14:54  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> none further from the middle
14:14:56  <PublicServer> <Mark> :D
14:15:03  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i mean look around slh01
14:15:14  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> every forest is located as close to it as possible
14:15:24  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> sure, i guess most of them died
14:15:24  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> but still
14:15:30  <PublicServer> <Mark> lots of level land there
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14:15:41  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yeah, the same thing that made it a nice place to build my massive slh
14:15:47  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> made it attractive to forests
14:16:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> time for my cute little srnw SL to grow
14:16:34  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yeah, seems like it needs some more trains
14:16:41  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> or rather, its been without trains for so long
14:18:19  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the tram town transfer is really full of wood :P
14:18:27  <PublicServer> <Mark> working on it
14:18:31  <PublicServer> <Mark> just added 50 trains :P
14:18:38  <PublicServer> <Mark> wont take too long
14:18:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2k isnt that bad
14:18:51  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> his trams are pretty silly
14:18:54  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> though
14:18:56  <PublicServer> <Mark> youre silly
14:19:02  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i like them though
14:19:02  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> they are cute
14:19:06  <PublicServer> <Mark> :)
14:19:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> it didnt turn out as epic as i hoped it would
14:19:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> not enough forests for that
14:19:31  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> should  we fund some more to expand it?
14:19:45  <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 1
14:19:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> then i'll probably break my SLH soon :P
14:20:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will steal a few forests from SL 01
14:21:01  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> you do that
14:21:04  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i have more than enough
14:21:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> im gonna steal some of lopo's forests i think
14:21:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see :p
14:21:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> or just the 728/month one
14:21:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont go too far with the trams .) rather fund more close to you
14:22:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> we really need a setting that doesnt let industries get bigger than 500/month imho
14:22:31  <PublicServer> <Mark> or just being able to set a max production would be great
14:23:01  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> er
14:23:11  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> why is there an entire station without any trains in it
14:23:17  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> appart from the loading/unloading train
14:23:21  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> tram town woods
14:23:43  <PublicServer> <Mark> not enough trains on the srnw
14:23:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> not enough srnw trains
14:23:55  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ah
14:24:07  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so i should add some?
14:24:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> perhaps :)
14:24:49  <PublicServer> * theholyduck tries adding a few
14:25:51  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> lol, the transfer there has 6.7k wood waiting
14:26:01  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i guess he needs some more emptying trains aswell
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14:32:34  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i really like this game/map
14:32:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> :)
14:32:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
14:33:00  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the whole, do whatever inside the sl thing
14:33:02  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> is great fun
14:33:04  <PublicServer> <Mark> i've got a nice surprise for next game :P
14:33:08  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> especially to watch
14:34:58  <Zaitzev> !password
14:34:58  <PublicServer> Zaitzev: dammed
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14:35:14  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> ohai
14:35:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> haio
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14:42:41  <Joosta> !password
14:42:41  <PublicServer> Joosta: swarms
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14:43:06  <Joosta> morning
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14:43:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> hello
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14:45:39  <Joosta> right ^^
14:45:49  <PublicServer> *** Joosta has left the game (processing map took too long)
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14:46:31  <Joosta> there we go
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14:48:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> starting to get some trams going now
14:48:11  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i'm almost tempted to add a little feeder bit to my slh using the no.9 crawler
14:48:18  <PublicServer> <Mark> :)
14:48:25  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> top speed, 19km/h
14:48:28  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> :D
14:49:10  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm, what the heck, i could add some forsts to the other side of slh03
14:49:14  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its pretty much unused anyway
14:49:41  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and then add some slow slow feeders to that
14:55:22  <Joosta> Why is the station at Tram Town South not working?
14:55:37  <PublicServer> <Mark> which one
14:55:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
14:55:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> wrong refit of trams
14:55:57  <PublicServer> <Mark> oh shit
14:55:57  <PublicServer> <Joosta> ahh i see it now, figures
14:55:57  <PublicServer> <Mark> where
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14:56:19  <PublicServer> <Mark> ah
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15:02:59  <PublicServer> <Joosta> hehe that No9 Crawler is cool
15:03:07  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> indeed
15:03:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> it is
15:03:19  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i have like literally no experience with rv's though
15:03:25  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so lets see if i can make this work
15:04:03  <PublicServer> <Mark> if you want an effecient roro, make sure the route  through the stations from both sides is equally long
15:04:04  <Zaitzev> there's a speed upgrade grf for bridges available, is it used here?
15:04:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> like i did with all my stations
15:04:21  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ah
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15:04:39  <PublicServer> <Joosta> I don't understand half the stuff that's going on in this game... -_-
15:04:53  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ah, like that..
15:04:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> well if you need some explanations, here we are
15:05:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
15:05:19  <PublicServer> <Mark> exactly
15:07:27  <PublicServer> <Mark> the capacity of such rv roros is amazing
15:07:37  <PublicServer> <Mark> especially for drops
15:07:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> you have seen my 5000rv savegame?
15:07:54  <PublicServer> <Mark> dunno
15:08:05  <PublicServer> <Mark> i think i have but cant really remember
15:08:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> just a shit ton of RVs on a 256x266
15:08:29  <PublicServer> <Mark> :)
15:08:32  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ok, now to add some trains to this bugger
15:08:34  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and some road trains :P
15:08:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> road train at 19km/h
15:08:59  <PublicServer> <Mark> you should see them in australia, doing 140km/h
15:09:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> I used there stations like !this
15:09:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> with 4 semitrailers full of cattle
15:09:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> unbreakable
15:09:18  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
15:10:01  <PublicServer> <Joosta> hehe nice!
15:10:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> when you play really hardcore with RVs, you need to use the station penalty to double also bridges and uphills
15:10:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is where it gets fun
15:10:45  <PublicServer> <Mark> just set slope steepness to 0%
15:10:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> boring
15:10:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> :P
15:10:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> and requires using realistic accel for RVs
15:11:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> original is imo better there
15:11:58  <PublicServer> <Joosta> Those stations on SL5 and SL7, the SRNW stations right? How do they work and what's the big advantage with them?
15:12:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> @@srnw
15:12:10  <Webster> srnw: Self-regulating Network, see also:
15:12:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> basically, they let trains in only if there's a full load waiting
15:12:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> the sole purpose is to serve a large amount of the same primaries with just 1 order group
15:12:30  <PublicServer> <Joosta> was hoping for a down and dirty quick explanation ^^
15:13:08  <PublicServer> <Mark> the wiki page on srnw isnt great
15:13:14  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> these road trains are seriously slwo :P
15:13:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> says what it needs to
15:13:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> rest is in archives
15:13:38  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> also, they corner REALLY slowly
15:14:36  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah those things are just painful to watch :P
15:14:58  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i might actually need a few of them for the long one
15:15:00  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> just for the absurd travel time
15:15:28  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its so slow roudn corners :P
15:15:35  <PublicServer> <Joosta> not sure i understand fully but i'll give the wiki a go
15:16:05  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> looks like you need more srnw trains v
15:16:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> 1000 trains :)
15:16:13  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> or rather, some that are willing to go into heights there
15:16:19  <Mark> !rcon set max_trains 1100
15:16:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm?
15:16:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> ah
15:16:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> bastards
15:16:40  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> eskifjord heights is full of wood, and no trains want to go there
15:17:35  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> got a solution?
15:17:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
15:17:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> all is lost
15:17:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> :D
15:18:27  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> your other stations are working fine though :P
15:20:01  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> suddenly, trains
15:20:08  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> v and his magics
15:20:18  <PublicServer> * theholyduck doesnt understand enough srnw to understand what happened
15:20:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> obviously :)
15:20:39  <PublicServer> <Joosta> same here ^^
15:20:46  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well i know what went wrong
15:20:56  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i just didnt see the reverse pbs he put in place
15:20:56  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> to fix it
15:21:02  <PublicServer> <Mark> pretty cheap fix that :P
15:21:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is simple the trains liked more to go through Woods than Heights
15:21:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> cheap and bad :)
15:21:16  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i thought it was ill advised to use 3 pbs backwards
15:21:34  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> oh, you used like a million
15:21:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> in normal network s perhaps
15:21:51  <PublicServer> <Joosta> a backwards pbs gives a penalty?
15:21:53  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yeah
15:22:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> well optimal solution would be to make everything terminus and loop it into one pathfinder trap but meh
15:23:04  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> why dodnt you stationwalk the other forest by the west station?
15:23:14  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so trains tdont have to wait forever
15:23:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> well the forest wont have 72t forever :p
15:24:02  <PublicServer> <Mark> woohoo moving everything at transfer town
15:24:04  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> derp
15:24:07  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> forgot to add more trains
15:24:13  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> to my awesome transfer
15:25:00  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the really fun thing is that one run of my 19km/h crawlers
15:25:03  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> is almost 2 trains :p
15:25:13  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> high capacity, not high speed :P
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15:29:06  <PublicServer> <Mark> fuck
15:29:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> cant do that with trams.
15:29:28  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah i should stick to trams
15:29:38  <PublicServer> <Mark> leave trains to the grown ups
15:29:40  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> mark, the traminator?
15:29:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> :d
15:29:57  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> your sprawling tram network is pretty sexy actually
15:30:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> :D
15:30:21  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i feel we should play with cargo trams more oftten
15:30:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> I hate the word sexy anywhere where related to computer games
15:30:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> that just sounds wrong
15:30:39  <PublicServer> <Joosta> lol i was just thinking that...
15:30:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> and I am a very weird person
15:31:59  <theholyduck> trainlimit again it seems
15:32:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> that was quick
15:32:33  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the 6lx6r beast requires more sacrifices
15:33:48  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> your traims are being stupid at  !here
15:34:06  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> also, i think you might have slightly too many trams on that extensions
15:34:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is trams they are supposed to be stupid
15:34:27  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, more stupid than whatis generally expected, even of trams
15:34:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> impossible
15:34:48  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i think tray almost fixed it nao
15:34:50  <PublicServer> <Mark> there
15:34:52  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> er
15:34:54  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> why did i say tray
15:35:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> wtf
15:35:20  <Tray> dunno
15:40:07  <V453000> !rcon set max_trains 1222
15:40:33  <PublicServer> <Joosta> mark? at your SL, why do all the trains coming from the south prefer the join to the inner 3 MLs?
15:40:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> just some penalty wuhnuh
15:41:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> for as long as it doesnt jam, it is ok
15:41:52  <PublicServer> <Joosta> allright
15:42:06  <PublicServer> <Joosta> those are things i'm messing with in my solo games, just curious
15:42:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> just provide enough lines for ML
15:42:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> and mess with things when they jam not just when they look like choosing some lines more over others
15:43:22  <PublicServer> <Joosta> rgr
15:44:20  <theholyduck> most sls seems to prefer the inner lines for now, but the inner lines arent packked full anyway, and they go for the outer ones when the intter ones fill up
15:44:23  <theholyduck> so its no issues
15:45:43  <Joosta> so as long as there's no jam, you should just keep adding trains and don't worry about it for the problem might solve it self when 1 or more lines fill up?
15:45:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> that too
15:46:04  <theholyduck> isnt it somewhere in the balancing article.
15:46:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> just take the ML as one, and no matter where trains are just ask Is ML full Yes/No
15:46:36  <theholyduck> a balancer isnt there to archive a totally equal distrebution of traffic, only to let trains merge onto lanes that have room for it.
15:46:55  <theholyduck> or something like that
15:47:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
15:47:19  <Joosta> allright, that helps, thanks
15:47:45  <Mark> the word balancer is wrong as it's not supposed to balance :P
15:47:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> exactly
15:48:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> merger for BBH, joiner for SLH
15:48:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> or for that sort of thing
15:50:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok that does it enough with stupid penalties
15:50:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets give it a system
15:50:58  <theholyduck> ;D
15:51:10  <theholyduck> i can feel your rightious fury in those deletes
15:51:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> :d
15:51:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> it isnt my fault that trains are downright retards
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15:59:51  <Joosta> thanks V, that clarifies on the balancer issue
15:59:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
16:00:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> just feel free to ask
16:03:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> I hereby declare victory over train stupidity
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16:11:07  <PublicServer> <Brumi> hello
16:11:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
16:11:27  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
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16:12:39  <LoPo> hiya
16:12:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :)
16:12:44  <LoPo> !password
16:12:44  <PublicServer> LoPo: bodice
16:12:49  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
16:12:55  <PublicServer> <Brumi> hi
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16:14:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> you have some nice solution of SRNW station LoPo :) I like the idea
16:15:03  <PublicServer> <LoPo> where and when? :P
16:15:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> the combo signal part / exit
16:16:27  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah i see
16:16:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> that one
16:17:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> otherwise it is standard, I just like the other way to make platforms next to each other
16:17:03  <PublicServer> <LoPo> oky
16:17:53  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah its a work araound to squeeze more platoforms in the station
16:17:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes I know
16:18:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> I just havent seen it done that way so I appreciate that
16:18:32  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :)
16:19:32  <cornjuliox> !password
16:19:32  <PublicServer> cornjuliox: bodice
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16:20:32  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> v, wyh is it the trains arent filling up right
16:20:42  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> on your new srnw rebuilt station
16:20:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> PBS is idiotic as always
16:21:03  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> :P
16:21:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> sure sure
16:21:27  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its not easy being a v, eh
16:21:27  <PublicServer> <Mark> blame trains, blame pbs, blame pathfinding
16:21:33  <PublicServer> <LoPo> could be a timing problem
16:21:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> no PBS just refused to choose so it needed 2ways :)
16:22:25  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> congrtats with the victory over stupid trains
16:22:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> :d
16:25:01  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> er
16:25:07  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> why is there no prios on my merge here...
16:25:13  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> did i really forget to add prios
16:25:15  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> *join
16:25:23  <PublicServer> <Mark> be quick or those forests are mine
16:25:37  <PublicServer> <Mark> oh thats pretty quick
16:25:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D fear
16:26:26  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> apparently, i'm an idiot
16:26:38  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i forogt to add prio signals to all the new joins i made for the 6 line upgrade
16:27:34  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> there we go, now its right
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16:32:46  * theholyduck is tempted to do something even stupider
16:32:50  <theholyduck> like SRNWCEPTION
16:32:55  <theholyduck> a srnw feeding a srnw
16:32:57  <theholyduck> or somethign
16:34:39  <Mark> pretty sure thats been doen
16:34:45  <theholyduck> probably
16:37:53  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> v, your trains are being stupid again
16:38:11  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> trains wont use the platforms at !wont use
16:38:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> how the hell
16:38:23  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> atleast i've seeen like a million trians pass it by and just go round again
16:38:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> ah right
16:38:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> the one last roro breaks it
16:38:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will kill it after I connect other forests
16:39:30  <cornjuliox> !password
16:39:30  <PublicServer> cornjuliox: spices
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16:40:10  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> \o
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16:41:02  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> not easy being v and dealing with all the trains that dont want to do what you want them to do
16:41:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> blame Mark
16:41:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> :D
16:41:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> he is responsible for srnw,
16:41:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> .
16:42:11  <Mark> im sorry :<
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16:49:46  <cornjuliox> !password
16:49:46  <PublicServer> cornjuliox: brawny
16:50:11  <cornjuliox> just out of curiosity, is this map bigger than the last one?
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16:50:28  <cornjuliox> i mean, bigger in terms of game size not file size
16:50:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> no the same
16:50:33  <PublicServer> <LoPo> uhmm
16:50:40  <PublicServer> <LoPo> idk :P
16:50:42  <PublicServer> <LoPo> idc
16:52:48  <theholyduck> it has more trains though
16:52:49  <theholyduck> doesnt it?
16:53:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> is that surprising with 6 lines?
16:53:06  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :D
16:53:07  <theholyduck> not at all :P
16:53:22  <theholyduck> theres still decent amount of room left on those 6 lines
16:53:22  <theholyduck> aswell
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16:59:54  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hmmm
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17:00:06  <PublicServer> <LoPo> vehilcle cap
17:00:16  <PublicServer> <LoPo> increase plx >_<
17:00:34  <V453000> !rcon set max_trains 1333
17:00:39  <PublicServer> <LoPo> thx
17:00:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> there you go
17:01:51  <cornjuliox> !password
17:01:51  <PublicServer> cornjuliox: cozily
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17:02:24  <cornjuliox> oh my god I almost made it in
17:02:28  <cornjuliox> !password
17:02:28  <PublicServer> cornjuliox: cozily
17:02:42  <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol
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17:03:40  <cornjuliox> *sigh*
17:03:50  <cornjuliox> i don't know what to do anymore it just won't let me in
17:04:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> well the map is also getting bigger and bigger
17:06:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> alright time for the roro to die
17:06:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> works now duck :p
17:09:53  <theholyduck> :D
17:11:24  <cornjuliox> !password
17:11:24  <PublicServer> cornjuliox: cozily
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17:12:21  <cornjuliox> i'm assuming the server is in europe somewhere right?
17:12:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> on the Moon
17:12:42  <PublicServer> <LoPo> Moon?
17:12:45  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i though Mars
17:12:56  <PublicServer> <LoPo> better climate
17:20:34  <PublicServer> <LoPo> V what is !this?
17:20:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm
17:20:40  <PublicServer> <LoPo> that one got through
17:20:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> probably happened when I cut their exit off :)
17:20:57  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah
17:24:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> should work now :)
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17:33:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> SL 07 complete :)
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17:48:27  <sane> !password
17:48:28  <PublicServer> sane: decree
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18:03:48  <Firestar> hows going on server?
18:04:03  <PublicServer> <LoPo> alright
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18:08:14  <PublicServer> <bassals> hello
18:08:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
18:09:39  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i got to eat
18:09:41  <PublicServer> <LoPo> see you guys :)
18:09:47  <PublicServer> <bassals> bye
18:09:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
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18:09:55  <PublicServer> <bassals> we are in the train limit
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18:19:17  <theholyduck> we keep hitting the limit :P
18:19:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> the rails are pretty full now
18:19:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> or rather ... not empty
18:20:30  <Mark> !password
18:20:30  <PublicServer> Mark: maizes
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18:20:45  <PublicServer> <Mark> 'lo
18:20:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> hai
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18:25:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> fuck
18:25:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> them
18:29:04  <theholyduck> whats the next stop for here if we decide we need more lines
18:29:19  <theholyduck> i guess theres room for L8xR8 :p
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18:30:13  <PublicServer> <bassals> it's not really jammed right now
18:30:16  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yeah
18:30:22  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> we can fit more trains on the current network
18:30:37  <V453000> !rcon set max_trains 1500
18:30:54  <PublicServer> <theholyduck> my point was, what would we do when we cant
18:31:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> both main stations should be able to take even more pain
18:31:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> like 8 lines
18:31:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> rest is easy
18:31:48  <theholyduck> yeah, the main stations can definitly take a lot more traffic
18:31:56  <theholyduck> on your south station, trains rarely make it anywhere near the bottom
18:32:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is what they should
18:32:19  <theholyduck> well yeah, i know
18:32:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> they should use it under high load though
18:32:29  <theholyduck> my point was, it can take a lot more load
18:32:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
18:32:39  <theholyduck> that said
18:32:44  <theholyduck> something a bit silly is going on currently
18:32:51  <theholyduck> though probably intentional
18:33:06  <theholyduck> million trains waiting to uat the entrences there instead of going further down
18:33:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> not much to do about that
18:33:20  <theholyduck> yeah i know
18:33:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> and it doesnt hurt anything either
18:33:45  <theholyduck> innefficient, but unnavoidable
18:34:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> why inefficient
18:34:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> vice versa
18:34:19  <theholyduck> because theres techinically free platforms, the trains just wont go for them
18:34:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> it makes sure that platforms rae used as much as they can
18:34:28  <theholyduck> i guesss
18:34:32  * theholyduck goes to eat pizza
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18:38:18  <ARyan> hello
18:38:23  <PublicServer> <bassals> hello
18:38:25  <V453000> hi
18:38:29  <V453000> #openttdcoop.stable :p
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18:46:52  <V453000> laters
18:47:08  <PublicServer> <bassals> c
18:47:10  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu
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19:01:35  <Rhamphoryncus> !password
19:01:35  <PublicServer> Rhamphoryncus: octave
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19:04:18  <PublicServer> <bassals> are you prospecting?
19:04:44  <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> who?
19:05:00  <PublicServer> <bassals> you guys
19:05:08  <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> I'm just snooping
19:06:39  <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> And boggling at the obscenely large stations
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19:21:15  <cornjuliox> !password
19:21:15  <PublicServer> cornjuliox: shrubs
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19:25:16  <Firestar> hows going onserver?
19:25:23  <PublicServer> <bassals> great
19:25:41  <Firestar> how many vehicles already?
19:25:55  <bassals> I  think there's a command
19:25:55  <PublicServer> <cornjuliox> WOO i'm in
19:26:00  <bassals> !stats
19:26:00  <PublicServer> bassals: use @coopstats
19:26:12  <Firestar> @coopstats
19:26:13  <Webster> #openttdcoop @ OFTC stats by Webster -
19:26:47  <bassals> !info
19:26:47  <PublicServer> bassals: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Allan & Co.'  Year Founded: 1970  Money: 2667938433  Loan: 0  Value: 2679854666  (T:1443, R:74, P:0, S:0) unprotected
19:27:42  <PublicServer> <cornjuliox> thats one hell of a mainline
19:27:57  <PublicServer> <bassals> 6L_6R
19:28:36  <PublicServer> <cornjuliox> and whats with south station? that thing is ridiculous
19:28:51  <PublicServer> <cornjuliox> do a lot of your games end up with stations that huge?
19:29:04  <Firestar> expandation of SLH all finished?
19:29:26  <Firestar> or still some work to do?
19:29:33  <PublicServer> <bassals> well, refit games need big stations
19:31:35  <PublicServer> <cornjuliox> in order to refit they need to go to a depot?
19:32:01  <PublicServer> <bassals> yes
19:34:38  <Firestar> except auto-refit is on
19:34:53  <Firestar> then they will be refitted in the stations
19:35:29  <Firestar> but only in auto-refittable wagons and auto-refit must be in the orders too
19:37:52  <PublicServer> <bassals> ooh
19:37:58  <PublicServer> <sane> oops. my fault
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19:44:46  <Firestar> whats your fault?
19:44:57  <PublicServer> <bassals> the dead people
19:45:02  <Firestar> how many?
19:45:34  <Firestar> four or eight or a whole city?
19:45:45  <PublicServer> <bassals> yes
19:45:55  <Firestar> a whole city?
19:46:01  <PublicServer> <bassals> no, just four
19:46:07  <Firestar> oh ok
19:46:15  <Firestar> well cya all later
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19:59:26  <V453000> !password
19:59:26  <PublicServer> V453000: fronts
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19:59:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> haiooo
19:59:46  <PublicServer> <bassals> hello
20:03:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> wowa 1500?
20:03:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
20:03:36  <PublicServer> <Mark> that was pretty fast
20:04:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> the SLs eat them like nothing
20:04:18  <PublicServer> <Mark> V453000: would it be possible to write a newgrf limiting primary industry production?
20:04:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> for sure
20:04:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> if you'd have a limit of, say, 250, that'd make networks a lot more interesting as it forces you to connect more industries
20:05:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont know if it matters that much
20:05:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> especially this game
20:05:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you transfer to 1 station 100 forests or 20 forests doesnt matter
20:05:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> sure it does
20:06:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> I take the primaries just as some lowest slave class which are here just to fill the network with trains and let us have fun
20:06:43  <Zaitzev> !password
20:06:43  <PublicServer> Zaitzev: fronts
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20:07:03  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> \o
20:07:05  <PublicServer> <Mark> hmm maybe
20:07:11  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> what's going on?
20:07:14  <PublicServer> <bassals> I leave for dinner goodbye
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20:09:55  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> lots of trains are just waiting on the south station there
20:10:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> could make less bays
20:10:37  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> the bottom ones seems rarely used
20:10:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is normal
20:12:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> this might make you a bit happier
20:19:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> look how many trains are waiting at the prios of SLH 04 :)
20:19:33  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> hehe yeah i was just watching that
20:19:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> the PBS -> 2way presignal magic .)
20:20:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> great for large scale balancers, first seen in psg 205 :p
20:20:49  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> hehe
20:24:23  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> i do notice I need to re-learn all the stuff about signals
20:24:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> what is unclear?
20:24:47  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> well
20:24:54  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> i can't put my finger on it right now ;P
20:25:24  <PublicServer> <Zaitzev> i'm looking at how stuff is set up and I recognize parts of it
20:25:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> well if you understand the 3 pre-signals the rest isnt much
20:25:26  <PublicServer> <sane> gtg good bye
20:25:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya sane
20:25:39  <PublicServer> <sane> bye V
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22:26:13  <mfb-> hi
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22:27:56  <PublicServer> <mfb> 6 lines :o
22:28:50  <V453000> hello :)
22:29:45  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
22:29:59  <PublicServer> <mfb> interesting plan
22:30:21  <PublicServer> <mfb> and quite fast building
22:30:26  <V453000> hehe
22:30:51  <V453000> everyone seems to be having quite a lot of fun so it goes quickly
22:31:01  <V453000> !password
22:31:01  <PublicServer> V453000: patron
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22:31:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> and I just drew the most amazing wagons ever :)
22:31:26  <PublicServer> <mfb> SLH01 uses both sides, the others are single-sided?
22:31:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> 05 uses both
22:31:42  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh 05 has both sides as well
22:31:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> 01 should be one sided
22:31:54  <PublicServer> <mfb> 04 :D
22:32:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> 04 works well
22:32:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> the PBS -> 2way presignal does wonders
22:33:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> for sl 07 I made a srnw which automatically has "correct" penalties ... I was wondering how we did it in the past without terminus stations and this :D
22:33:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> will have to check later
22:33:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> because when I just dumped many stations there, setting penalties became nightmare
22:35:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> the only "issue" is to make sure the actual pf trap line has enough penalty to not be too attractive so trains dont get into it after stations :D but that shouldnt be a problem with a more careful station design for that
22:35:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> but well the pf trap doesnt need to be a part of the station anyway
22:35:39  <Chris_Booth> I liked your terminus idea
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22:39:14  <mfb-> hmm
22:39:27  <mfb-> looks more complicated than necessary
22:39:35  <mfb-> due to the penalty thing
22:39:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> perhaps :) but gnight for now
22:39:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> not really
22:39:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nn mr V453000
22:39:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> at least you dont have to do the penalties manually
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22:41:11  <PublicServer> <mfb> anything to do?
22:42:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> look at the nice network
22:42:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> prospect
22:45:05  <PublicServer> <mfb> ha, found things in SLH02
22:45:31  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> bad things?
22:45:42  <PublicServer> <mfb> signal gaps, broken prios
22:45:58  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm well
22:46:12  <PublicServer> <mfb> no entry signal for a joining line is not really a signal gap :p
22:46:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> it is just.. no signal there
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22:46:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> The SL is broken anywat
22:46:31  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> way
22:46:34  <PublicServer> <mfb> how?
22:46:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the transfer station
22:47:11  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
22:47:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its proned to catching lost trains
22:47:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and they get stuck
22:47:54  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
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22:48:08  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah, the combined unload/load
22:48:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yep
22:48:49  <PublicServer> <mfb> well
22:48:55  <PublicServer> <mfb> twoway entry/exit is bad...
22:49:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> PBS is worse
22:49:21  <PublicServer> <mfb> pbs works
22:49:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> mfb: no
22:49:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> now it will not overflow
22:49:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> overflow where?
22:49:57  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> trains overflowed into the tunnels
22:50:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and then stacked in the depots
22:50:21  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah
22:50:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that is why I signaled like that
22:50:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> well
22:51:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> pbs will not see that as a path
22:52:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> was missing one signal
22:52:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
22:52:33  <PublicServer> <mfb> what is wrong :(
22:53:11  <PublicServer> <mfb> ha
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22:56:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> aw crap
22:57:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
22:57:04  <PublicServer> <mfb> done
22:57:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
22:57:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> they prefer the overflow :D
22:57:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol
22:57:49  <PublicServer> <mfb> reversed pbs
22:59:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am off now
22:59:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nn
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22:59:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> good night
22:59:39  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
22:59:46  <PublicServer> <mfb> well, works like that
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23:01:28  <PublicServer> <mfb> lol, the tram system at SLH03
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23:14:25  <mfb-> ah, great
23:14:34  <mfb-> a correct version of psg223
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23:35:14  <Skasi> Why hello there!!
23:35:23  <Skasi> !passwprd
23:35:32  <Skasi> !password
23:35:32  <PublicServer> Skasi: dicing
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