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Log for #openttdcoop on 1st March 2012:
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03:11:34  <kirov> !players
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06:07:26  <DrSpangle> any electrical engineers here?
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06:51:53  <elecRules> !players
06:51:56  <PublicServer> elecRules: There are currently no clients connected to the server
06:52:14  <elecRules> !ping
06:52:14  <PublicServer> elecRules: pong
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08:26:22  <PublicServer> elecRules: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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08:44:20  <Ivan_M> !password
08:44:20  <PublicServer> Ivan_M: rinked
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12:54:14  <Lugnuts> 24hours later I'm back with the GRF pack downloaded
12:54:35  <Lugnuts> Anyone active?
12:54:44  <Lugnuts> !players
12:54:46  <PublicServer> Lugnuts: There are currently no clients connected to the server
12:54:51  <Lugnuts> :/
12:54:59  <Lugnuts> !servers
12:55:06  <Lugnuts> !server
12:55:12  <Lugnuts> !help
12:55:13  <PublicServer> Lugnuts: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
12:55:45  <hylje> heya
12:56:10  <hylje> just hop on and see how the map is built up
12:56:17  <hylje> someone will probably hop on too and the game unpauses
12:56:28  <Lugnuts> Where do I plop down the extracted folder?
12:56:41  <smoovi> !screen
12:56:41  <PublicServer> *** smoovi liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00006D43.png)
12:56:54  <hylje> @quickstart
12:56:55  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
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12:57:16  <hylje> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/GRF
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12:58:02  <hylje> hm there's no mention of data directories per platform
12:58:12  <Lugnuts> Yes
12:58:31  <hylje> http://wiki.openttd.org/NewGRF_Documentation#Manual_install
13:00:55  <KenjiE20> @wiki Obtaining OpenTTD
13:00:59  <Webster> KenjiE20: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Obtaining_OpenTTD
13:01:00  <Webster> KenjiE20: OpenTTD can be downloaded freely from the OpenTTD.org homepage and as of the 1.0.0 beta's no longer requires the original propriety graphics files in order to run (though these can still be used). Instead OpenTTD will prompt you to acquire the OpenGFX files.
13:01:09  <Lugnuts> I have will be back, one moment
13:01:09  <KenjiE20> some stuff about directory management there
13:08:18  <Lugnuts> Back
13:09:14  <Lugnuts> KenjiE20: Can the newGRFs be left in their folders?
13:09:54  <planetmaker> any subfolder of the respecitve OpenTTD folders will do
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13:10:57  <Lugnuts> Ok, thanks guys
13:10:59  <Lugnuts> !players
13:11:01  <PublicServer> Lugnuts: There are currently no clients connected to the server
13:11:50  <Lugnuts> !password
13:11:50  <PublicServer> Lugnuts: rinked
13:12:22  <PublicServer> *** Lugnuts has left the game (connection lost)
13:12:22  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
13:12:37  <Lugnuts> My computer is too slow to keep up with the server
13:13:22  <PublicServer> *** Lugnuts has left the game (downloading map took too long)
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13:13:46  <Lugnuts> Meh, there is no way this internet will be able to handle a 994 Kb map
13:13:47  <Lugnuts> Too bad
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13:14:35  <Lugnuts> Dammit
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13:15:37  <Lugnuts> I wish I was back with my home internet
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13:17:32  <Lugnuts> :(
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13:19:05  <Lugnuts> It seems I have managed to leave the game 10 times without joining once
13:19:41  <hylje> !password
13:19:41  <PublicServer> hylje: rinked
13:19:50  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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13:19:55  <hylje> it's about a megabyte
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13:37:33  <Lugnuts> Yes
13:37:36  <Lugnuts> Thats too much
13:38:19  <Lugnuts> My internet can't load a map larger than half that
13:47:59  <smoovi> ur internet is different to ours?
13:48:15  <smoovi> :D
13:51:31  <Lugnuts> Yes
13:51:37  <Lugnuts> Right now I am in china
13:51:51  <Lugnuts> The internet is terrible
13:52:05  <Lugnuts> The fastes option in 1/10th the speed of my internet at home
14:11:03  <theholyduck> delays is probably also an issue
14:12:21  <Lugnuts> !password
14:12:21  <PublicServer> Lugnuts: rinked
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14:16:53  <Lugnuts> I'll probably look at some of the finnished games
14:17:24  <Lugnuts> Though I am not entirely sure how the newGRFs will work out
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16:41:46  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
16:41:46  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
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16:41:46  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG227 (r23974) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands"
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18:05:05  <mfb-> hi
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18:09:04  <Rhamphoryncus> heya mfb
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18:38:19  <Roflberry> Hey everyone
18:38:36  <Roflberry> I'm just popping in for a quick question, if the ottdcoops would entertain it
18:39:26  <Roflberry> Question: Is there new logic in 1.2.0 RC-1 that changes the way trains interact with two-way signals?
18:40:02  <mfb-> I did not hear about that. but there is an option to handle how trains handle twoway-signals
18:40:13  <planetmaker> there's not
18:40:17  <planetmaker> afaik
18:40:32  <planetmaker> but a year and 3k(?) revisions is a lot to remember
18:40:50  <Roflberry> I'm trying to make a train do a forced switchback
18:40:58  <Roflberry> and fool it's pathing with a two way signal
18:41:01  <planetmaker> or depending with which version you compare
18:41:07  <Roflberry> that will go red when it enters the switchback
18:43:54  <Rhamphoryncus> Roflberry: a PF trap
18:44:05  <Rhamphoryncus> That needs a certain config var to be enabled
18:45:40  <Rhamphoryncus> go in the console (backtick usually) and type set pf.yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol on
18:45:46  <Roflberry> cool
18:45:46  <Roflberry> thanks
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19:54:00  <Maraxus> !password
19:54:00  <PublicServer> Maraxus: zebras
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20:06:44  <mfb-> ...
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20:15:07  <morph_> Hello, is this a good place to ask questions about Autopilot?
20:15:09  <morph_> :D
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20:17:55  <V453000> definitely morph_
20:17:58  <V453000> and welcome :)
20:18:14  <V453000> ... hopefully the authors/ people who know stuff about autpilot will be around
20:18:17  <V453000> so go ahead and ask :p
20:18:49  <morph_> Thanks. My question is this - I kinda installed Autopilot but can't start it because of "package expect required"
20:19:07  <morph_>  expect is already the newest version.
20:19:46  <morph_> So I have it installed, but autopilot is asking for it and can't find it. My server's Debian 6
20:20:24  <morph_> I will try to comment out this part but don't think Autopilot will really work after :)
20:20:49  <Chris_Booth> morph_: you have all the tcl shizzel installed?
20:21:15  <morph_> Yea, tcl8.4 and 8.5 and some other stuff I read in the Manual.txt of the program
20:21:33  <Chris_Booth> you have AP in the correct folder so it can load openttd?
20:22:22  <morph_> I put it together with my openttd.cfg and then edited the same openttd.cfg with new command line (location of openttd executable)
20:23:05  <Chris_Booth> then you will have to wait until an AP expert appears like PM or Amm1er
20:23:35  <morph_> Oki, thanks.
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20:26:37  <Ammler> morph_: well, expect is a important part of ap
20:26:44  <Ammler> !version
20:26:44  <PublicServer> Ammler: Autopilot AP+ 4.0 Beta (r99.422ef4e8cbe1)
20:26:50  <Ammler> you use this version?
20:27:12  <Ammler> (the hash can differ)
20:27:45  <morph_> I don't really know, how can I tell the version?
20:27:48  <morph_> I downloaded it from http://hg.openttdcoop.org/autopilot
20:27:59  <morph_> http://hg.openttdcoop.org/autopilot/archive/tip.tar.gz this file
20:28:12  <Ammler> yes, then you have the right one
20:28:27  <Ammler> how you know, you have expect instaled?
20:28:48  <Ammler> also there is a tcllib package needed,
20:29:17  <morph_> Oh ****, I had status pending on that
20:29:25  <morph_> Second, I will install it and let you know
20:29:51  <morph_> Still, same, even with tcllib
20:30:04  <morph_> I have package "expect" installed, according to my package list
20:30:19  <morph_> Also, I can enter "expect" command in shell and I get some kind of response
20:30:43  <morph_> Like a command line with "expect1.1>"
20:31:55  <morph_>  can't find package expect     while executing "package require expect"     (file "./autopilot.tcl" line 38)
20:32:07  <morph_> This is the error Im getting when running ./autopilot.tcl
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20:37:23  <Rhamphoryncus> !password
20:37:24  <PublicServer> Rhamphoryncus: zebras
20:37:35  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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20:37:56  <morph_> Bah, It seems I will never get this server running :D
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20:37:57  <Rhamphoryncus> Oi.  I saw people talking and just assumed they were playing.
20:38:11  <morph_> It's an illusion
20:38:14  <V453000> new game tomorrow probably
20:38:25  <Rhamphoryncus> Ahh
20:38:45  <Ammler> morph_: maybe they renamed expect
20:38:54  <Ammler> change Expect to expect there
20:39:03  <morph_> Tried that, same result
20:39:33  * Rhamphoryncus notes, randomly, that enough EL13K engines could exceed a million HP
20:39:41  <Ammler> well, it looks like tcl does not find expect
20:40:07  <V453000> lol
20:40:08  <morph_> should I roll back to some older expect version?
20:40:16  <Ammler> no clue
20:40:55  <Ammler> we ue 5.43
20:41:13  <morph_> I have 5.44-something
20:41:16  <morph_> I will get 5.43
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20:56:21  <planetmaker> @calc 32*4
20:56:21  <Webster> planetmaker: 128
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20:56:41  <Ryton> !logs
20:56:47  <Ryton> @log
20:57:05  <V453000> @logs
20:57:06  <Webster> #openttdcoop IRC webstuff - IRC Log Viewer - http://webster.openttdcoop.org/
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20:58:02  <morph_> Anyone can help me with finding Avignon download link? http://www.ohloh.net/p/Avignon doesn't really work..
20:58:03  <Webster> Title: Avignon (at www.ohloh.net)
20:58:44  <V453000> I dont think you can simply download an almost 100k population city
20:59:53  <Ryton> ty V, I messaged Webster with "logs" that also worked
21:00:12  <morph_> You simply do not download Avignon!
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21:00:32  <Ryton> !password
21:00:33  <PublicServer> Ryton: zebras
21:00:34  <morph_> Can anyone of you hook me up with the download of it? Maybe it will work
21:00:44  <morph_> *puppyeyes*
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21:01:37  <planetmaker> morph_, I'm not sure it was ever finished...
21:01:57  <PublicServer> *** Ryton #2 has left the game (general timeout)
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21:02:07  <morph_> OK, then there is no way I can make a server with goals currently? :(
21:02:23  <Ryton> !status
21:02:23  <morph_> http://www.x-base.org/xshunter.html looks promising, yet it's not available for download
21:02:24  <Webster> Title: The X-Base (at www.x-base.org)
21:02:27  <morph_> I hate my life
21:02:33  <Ryton> !password
21:02:33  <PublicServer> Ryton: zebras
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21:05:22  <PublicServer> <Ryton> Paper pickup & Wood drop 4th is nicely executed
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21:17:47  <Ryton> funny sign: "I knew it you are an AI" :-)
21:18:23  <Ryton> does anyone know if the "required for SLH08 sign in SLH07 is correct?
21:18:53  <Ryton> the SLH08 is like 100 tiles away from there... ?! does it really have an effect on itĀµ,
21:19:11  <Ryton> or is that a typo?
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21:23:22  <Ryton> cool
21:23:29  <Ryton> power down is a quit message? :D
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21:24:12  <Ivan_M> !password
21:24:12  <PublicServer> Ivan_M: zebras
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22:46:38  <DrSpangle> hey all
22:46:43  <DrSpangle> how's your set
22:47:26  <hylje> fine i guess
22:48:22  <DrSpangle> that's good
22:48:25  <DrSpangle> what's new?
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