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00:51:28  <Mazur> Hello, Hazzard.
00:58:10  <Hazzard> There is a guy GTS spamming the wiki with new accounts
01:04:40  <Mazur> Still busy doing that?
01:05:45  <Mazur> Someone mentioned it earlier and planetmaker read about it, so he either did something about it or made sure someone else would handle it, I assume.
01:06:45  <Mazur> Atm I'm transferring a cassette with Choir music I performing in to disk, or ather, I'm in  editing, noise ramoval etc.
01:07:57  <Mazur> Ah, so nice to hear the electronic hum gone.
01:08:31  <Mazur> Andnow normalising.
01:13:21  <Mazur> And now labelling the track-starts.
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04:31:54  <Hazzard> When building BBH, do all lines need choices?
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09:33:24  <Thorinbur_> !password
09:33:24  <PublicServer> Thorinbur_: sawing
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09:33:44  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi Thorinbur
09:33:53  <Thorinbur> hello
09:34:22  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I have hard decision to make...
09:34:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you do?
09:34:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> This weekend is open weekend for Path of Exile, and also new map here ^^
09:38:30  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> new map here!
09:38:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> paying choas or B2B
09:39:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I have no idea, I just know that new map soon ;)
09:40:44  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> XD
09:41:58  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 21 crashed trains
09:42:09  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol?
09:42:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> just noticed
09:42:35  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just east of BBH 04
09:42:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> someone crashed those small engines that were poinlessly running around rollercoaster
09:43:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> me
09:43:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ^^
09:43:30  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> (^_^)
09:46:39  <V453000> how the fuck did you guess chaos :-D
09:46:41  <V453000> :P
09:47:27  <Chris_Booth> V453000: if it is chaos I will be amazed!
09:47:35  <V453000> you guessed right :)
09:47:49  <V453000> and maybe you will also find a reason why chaos
09:47:54  <Chris_Booth> :O <------- That is me being amazed
09:48:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I just spat on my monitor when i saw sign: "What kind of name is that?! and read the name...
09:48:52  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Lesser slave Lake
09:49:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Lesser Slave Lake, comes with great job prospects!
09:49:49  <V453000> so who tells me why chaos? .)
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09:50:16  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why not V453000
09:50:27  <V453000> that is not a reason, chaos is banned
09:50:48  <Chris_Booth> you have set out some strict rules?
09:50:56  <V453000> no
09:51:06  <V453000> that is not a reason that is how to do it
09:51:13  <Mark> goodmorning
09:51:20  <Mark> nuuuuuuuuuuuts
09:51:21  <Thorinbur> you want anyone to be able to build?
09:51:25  <Chris_Booth> You wanted a fast game on a small map
09:51:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you want to test NUTS
09:52:10  <V453000> maybe
09:55:42  <Chris_Booth> XD
09:55:55  <V453000> ok not maybe but fuck yeah :)
09:56:54  <Chris_Booth> is NUTS in BANANAS then?
09:57:03  <V453000> what is that question
09:57:04  <Mark> the original nuttah
09:57:10  <Mark> madah madah madamahaha
09:59:07  <V453000> I see Mark is already catching the atmosphere
09:59:15  <Mark> :D
09:59:28  <V453000> utter brain breakdown inc
09:59:28  <Chris_Booth> dah dah dah dah daaahh I am a techno song
10:00:16  <Mark> oldskool drum 'n bass for ya :P
10:00:37  <V453000> xD
10:00:49  <Chris_Booth> how do you type an oldskool drum 'n bass song?
10:01:29  <V453000> dnb could be a great mindfuck, but nuts is more of a progressive psychedelic trance
10:02:13  <Chris_Booth> NUTS is like progrock it just never seems to end the madness!
10:02:17  <Mark> set the controls for the heart of the sun... tu da dum dum da da duuuum... love is the shadow that ripens the wine
10:03:01  <Mark> anyway:
10:03:02  <Webster> Title: Shy Fx - Original Nuttah - YouTube (at
10:03:14  <Chris_Booth> <3 Shy FX!
10:03:24  <Chris_Booth> I saw them live at uni last year!
10:04:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I just found 2 slows in BBH 03
10:04:18  <Mark> best thing that ever came out of england
10:04:21  <Mark> the beatles are nothing
10:04:34  <Mark> brb
10:04:47  <Chris_Booth> mark you are a nuttttttttahhh
10:05:46  <V453000> nutz iz diz
10:05:47  <Webster> Title: Travma 2019 - YouTube (at
10:06:16  <V453000> p.s. it is actually possible to get high by listening to this
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10:09:52  <Thorinbur> I am listeing to slightly different music :)
10:09:53  <Webster> Title: Two Steps From Hell - He Who Brings the Night - YouTube (at
10:10:07  <Thorinbur> espetially from 1:17 it is getting powerfulln
10:10:31  <V453000> ooh awsum
10:10:53  <Thorinbur> I have whole discography of Two Steps From Hell :)
10:11:28  <Thorinbur> They are making trailer mosic and movie themes. So a lot of times You are like: "where did I hear that before"
10:11:41  <V453000> that is black, isnt it
10:12:26  <Thorinbur>
10:12:30  <Webster> Title: Two Steps from Hell - Heart of Courage - YouTube (at
10:13:09  <Thorinbur> I just had a chill listening to it
10:13:26  <V453000> I want black youtube forever not just for earth hour
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10:16:03  <Thorinbur> I think YT is black because they added fairly popular lately, option to make it black...
10:16:16  <Thorinbur> you have light switch next to title
10:16:19  <Thorinbur> I think it will stay
10:26:33  <Chris_Booth> maybe they will allow you to choose your youtube skin in the near future
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10:33:05  <Chris_Booth> the anticipation is killing me!
10:33:31  <V453000> you die tomorrrow anyway
10:33:59  <Chris_Booth> that is true, we all die tomorrow
10:34:07  <V453000> \o/
10:36:45  <Chris_Booth> o//
10:36:56  <V453000> o"""""""""
10:37:01  <V453000> steamer ^
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10:40:13  <Chris_Booth> """"""""""""o <--- High speed steamer going the otherway
10:40:55  <V453000>  /XXXO' "" "  " " " "" " "   "  "     "  "  " " <- fucking badass special edition steamer
10:41:22  <Chris_Booth> lol
10:41:38  <Chris_Booth>
10:41:39  <Webster> Title: Top Gear - Car hit by train - Car safety message - BBC - YouTube (at
10:44:51  <V453000> OMG poor snail
10:45:57  <Chris_Booth> lol
10:46:36  <V453000> XD the conclusion is awesome
10:46:38  <V453000> always wear this
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10:47:02  <Chris_Booth> I like the part where he shouts thats toast!
10:48:32  <V453000> well it is kind of know that train turns the car to bits, more funny was a TV spot in czech where some stupid cow went outside, put ther 1 litre of water, then returned 2 hours after and OMG the water was frozen what a surprise! it was -20 degree celsius or colder ....
10:49:39  <V453000> TV trolling or pure stupidity?
10:53:03  <Chris_Booth> hehe
10:53:12  <Chris_Booth> anyhow back to my 300km/h pax game
10:53:39  <V453000> :>
10:54:05  <V453000> nuts has only one of these, but it probably accelerates a lot better than the ICEs
10:54:22  <Chris_Booth> yes I know 2cc's sucks, but we are waiting on a new game
10:55:23  <V453000> it isnt that bad
10:55:28  <V453000> not the best, but acceptable I think
10:55:47  <V453000> defo better than monorail shinkasnen
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11:02:55  <Mark> V453000: do you need a minimum length for your "ICEs"?
11:03:12  <V453000> what do you mean?
11:03:18  <V453000> oh, of course not
11:03:19  <Mark> well
11:03:28  <V453000> engine is 1 tile long, add any number of wagons you want
11:03:28  <Mark> i think shinkansen has to be TL3 before you can add another loc
11:03:34  <Mark> powered wagons?
11:03:38  <V453000> you dont add locs in shinkansens
11:03:42  <V453000> I dont use powered wagons
11:03:45  <Mark> well some trainset
11:03:46  <Mark> right
11:03:53  <V453000> shinkansens have powered wagons
11:03:55  <Mark> so you could make trains consisting purely out of locos?
11:04:03  <Mark> yeah i think its the dbset ICE then
11:04:04  <V453000> yes but you would get veeery low capacity
11:04:28  <Mark> ok fair enough :)
11:04:41  <V453000> I think ice train has 25% or 50% capacity in compare to wagon
11:04:52  <V453000> and they are quite strong already so you usually dont need to double them
11:04:57  <planetmaker> but (real) ice wagons are powered
11:05:03  <V453000> :D
11:05:08  <V453000> yes but it doesnt make good sense :)
11:05:19  <planetmaker> why not?
11:05:46  <V453000> I want the player to choose to either have good acceleration and less capacity, or lower accel and more capacity
11:06:03  <V453000> if I make train -> powered wagons, you cant do anything about it, you just build train and wagons and done
11:06:14  <V453000> choices, choices, choices
11:07:53  * Mark agrees
11:08:19  <Mark> that wicked warp's accel is pretty good
11:08:32  <Mark> do any trains have tilt bonus?
11:08:46  <V453000> the stats are just testing and I have edited a lot today, so dont expect them to be final from the old version I sent you
11:08:51  <V453000> yes, all monorails have tilt
11:10:52  <Mark> cool :)
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11:17:35  <planetmaker> 13:06 V453000: if I make train -> powered wagons, you cant do anything about it, you just build train and wagons and done <-- how that?
11:17:44  <V453000> well what else would the player do
11:17:47  <planetmaker> every rail vehicle has the same possibilities
11:18:01  <Mark> you cant increase power by adding locs
11:18:03  <planetmaker> and such wagon might only attach to whatever engine or so
11:18:09  <Mark> which goes at the cost of capacity
11:18:32  <V453000> well all that powered wagons do is that instead of adding more engines, you add wagons
11:18:36  <planetmaker> not if the 4th wagon always is a restaurant with 1/4 capacity but addeing improved revenue for the rest
11:18:37  <Mark> you just decide on TL and thats it, you cant finetune it to your needs
11:18:49  <planetmaker> so your assumption is quite wrong, Mark
11:18:55  <V453000> well, I do it this way
11:18:56  <planetmaker> it's just a matter of making the right use
11:19:45  <Chris_Booth> you know what you do when you assume?
11:24:43  <Chris_Booth> lunch time
11:37:33  <V453000> nuts just reached over 10k lines of code :>
11:48:19  <Mazur> To quote Daggett: That was NUTS!
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13:23:43  <RvS> hi
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13:23:54  <RvS> someone has know how about OpenTTDLib here?
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13:25:22  <V453000> you better ask about that in #openttd, we are just crazy players here mostly
13:25:49  <RvS> a, ok, thanks!
13:25:58  <V453000> very welcome
13:26:52  <V453000> just type /join #openttd
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13:42:10  <mrruben5> !dl osx
13:42:10  <PublicServer> mrruben5:
13:53:37  <mrruben5> !password
13:53:37  <PublicServer> mrruben5: stormy
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13:55:29  <mrruben5> Long time that I played this :)
13:55:52  <Chris_Booth> you mean "Long time since I played this"
14:02:02  <V453000> hello .)
14:02:17  <mrruben5> yeah, right :)
14:02:19  <mrruben5> hey
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14:12:07  <mrruben5> Oh the joy of not understanding some things in this game again :)
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14:16:01  <Sylf> something complicated?
14:17:04  <mrruben5> I just haven't played for like a year or so, knowledge has to come back :)
14:17:20  <V453000> Sylf: just hub with 5 levels of tunnels or more :D
14:17:53  <Sylf> that's beyond complexity
14:17:56  <Sylf> That's insanity
14:18:57  <mrruben5> yeah stuff like BBH 04. easy enough to get confused :)
14:24:37  <Mazur> Confused?   You will be, after the next episode of: "Soap!"
14:24:46  <V453000> :>
14:25:09  <Mazur> Anyone but me remember that show?
14:32:20  <mrruben5> wow
14:32:58  <mrruben5> what is the single rail doing from BBH04 to oil drop?
14:33:21  <V453000> pathfinder trap
14:33:42  <V453000> was to make trains go that way when constructions are happening on the bbh04-> refinery line
14:33:53  <V453000> now quite doing anything now
14:34:09  <mrruben5> ah so it's forcing trains to take a different route then
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14:35:42  <Chris_Booth> yep
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14:37:44  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi
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14:53:42  <Mazur> Took only 14.5 hours waiting until I could finally move that annoyingly wrong signal.
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14:57:52  <mrruben5> hmm, can't remember the correct usage of train cloning
14:58:25  <mrruben5> in regards to shared orders I mean
14:59:37  <Mazur> CTRL-Copy.
14:59:44  <mrruben5> heh yeah
14:59:52  <mrruben5> just wasn't sure
14:59:58  <Mazur> I am.
15:00:09  * Mazur is very -Zur.
15:02:27  <mrruben5> ugh, newgrf signals are so tiny.
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15:24:47  <mrruben5> Hmm, does anyone also agree we should do something with Woking?
15:24:55  <mrruben5> theres like 10 idle oilfields there
15:28:19  <mrruben5> my bad, it has stations already
15:29:13  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Woking iswoking very hard to get all oil to the refinery.
15:29:23  <PublicServer> <mrruben5> hahaha :P
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15:29:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> More owrringly, the exit is jammy now.
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15:33:45  <PublicServer> <mrruben5> isnt woking west only 1 output line now?
15:34:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Two exits on the ML, I think.
15:34:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 3 even.
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15:36:18  <PublicServer> <Mazur> But the SLH might need a fourth line fo them.
15:36:40  <PublicServer> <mrruben5> so its merging 3 on to 1, and woking woods is also from the same line?
15:36:52  <PublicServer> <mrruben5> or is that a seperate line from the SLH
15:37:03  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, 3 on three.  Not looked at the wood.
15:37:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, "Woods".
15:38:15  <PublicServer> <mrruben5> because that one seems to has little problems, or the trains ight be stuck at the SLH
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15:46:36  <sbn> Hey guys
15:46:50  <hylje> hello mice
15:47:00  <sbn> mice?
15:47:23  <hylje> plural of mouse
15:48:43  <sbn> k then
15:49:08  <sbn> anyway, do you guys use path signals? I can only remember using block signals
15:53:53  <V453000> omg its snowing :D april weather indeed
15:54:01  <V453000> sbn: only there, where they are required
15:54:05  <V453000> which means not too often
15:54:27  <sbn> I can't imagine using them
15:54:43  <V453000> well, see some of our games? :)
15:56:25  <sbn> Is realistic train acceleration enabled here in coop?
15:56:51  <V453000> look at the games? :D yes of course it is
15:57:06  <mrruben5> well the game is paused so you can't see it :)
15:57:56  <sbn> I'm wondering if there is a list somewhere with all the advance settings listed
15:58:00  <sbn> for coop I mean
15:58:22  <V453000> in each of the games
15:58:27  <V453000> settings vary
15:58:34  <V453000> but of course realistic acceleration is everywhere
16:00:44  <planetmaker> sbn: there's a (meanwhile old) posting in the blog. Where first I and later in a somewhat newer someone else summarizes the important settings
16:00:53  <planetmaker> for map makers for our servers
16:01:39  <planetmaker> <-- here's the newer one by ODM
16:01:47  <sbn> thanks planetmaker
16:02:19  <planetmaker> but mind that it is indeed already dated. Some things changed. Many new things were added since
16:03:46  <sbn> It's just for single player anyway
16:04:00  <sbn> but I like to keep it somewhat same as to other people
16:04:12  <sbn> you can tweak it so much
16:07:44  <planetmaker> sbn: with some settings it's hard to believe: but for every setting value you'll find a person who uses it :-)
16:07:53  <planetmaker> oh, always forbid 90° turns :-)
16:11:05  <V453000> not even that one pm :)
16:11:10  <V453000> by far
16:11:16  <V453000> unfortunately :)
16:11:27  <planetmaker> I mean for our servers
16:11:34  <V453000> ah, well then :)
16:11:40  <planetmaker> but yes. generally it's used
16:11:52  <planetmaker> indeed, very hard to believe :-)
16:13:58  <sbn> yeah true
16:14:04  <sbn> but you can make this game way too easy
16:14:12  <sbn> well, once you know how to make MM it is easy
16:15:11  <V453000> not really :)
16:15:17  <V453000> once you ignore money it gets complex
16:16:01  <sbn> true
16:16:10  <sbn> I've been watching a let's play
16:16:15  <planetmaker> sbn: and then you didn't even start with goal scripts
16:16:18  <sbn> but that dude, he makes some strange network layouts
16:17:11  <V453000> try to put 1000 trains on a map and you will see how easy the game is
16:23:40  <sbn> true true
16:23:48  <sbn> I guess it depends on what you call you objective
16:26:00  <sbn> and a 256x256 vs a 1024x1024 is a different challenge
16:27:20  <V453000> well sure
16:27:25  <V453000> we play 512x512 max
16:28:39  <sbn> lol
16:28:47  <sbn> I just started a 1024x1024
16:28:56  <sbn> what TL do you guys mostly use?
16:28:57  <sbn> 5?
16:29:15  <V453000> 3
16:30:23  <sbn> so when you drag your rail, length has to be 3 all the time?
16:30:33  <V453000> pretty much
16:31:12  <sbn> k
16:32:17  <sbn> the number that shows up behind the train in the depot, that is trainlength. Right?
16:32:36  <V453000> yes
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16:39:05  <planetmaker> in tiles
16:42:03  <V453000> I think he meant train lenght as our conventional TL
16:43:35  <sbn> I just wonder when you drag the rail if that is the same length as the trainlength that is displayed in the depot window
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17:51:27  <Ryton> !password
17:51:28  <PublicServer> Ryton: abates
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18:20:46  <PublicServer> <Ryton> so, this will be empty till 12 PM, before madness breaks loose?
18:20:57  <V453000> aboutish
18:21:01  <PublicServer> <Ryton> in what timezone is it sunday first? :p
18:21:07  <planetmaker> why does madness break loose then?
18:21:07  <V453000> in some timezone
18:21:09  <V453000> whatever :)
18:21:15  <planetmaker> it's already April 1st
18:21:17  <PublicServer> <Ryton> and in how many hours is that? ;-)
18:21:25  <V453000> some few :)
18:21:33  <PublicServer> <Ryton> well, what are we waiting for then? :p
18:21:38  <V453000> for me :D
18:21:39  <planetmaker> Like... 10 of 26 or so
18:21:59  <PublicServer> <Ryton>  :P
18:22:12  <V453000> pm: nuts alpha goes live tonight
18:22:16  <PublicServer> * Ryton pushes V off the ledge of sanity
18:22:42  <PublicServer> <Ryton> yes, but what is tonight, in hours? 1,2, 4,10, ...? :-))
18:22:56  <V453000> lets say 3
18:23:18  <planetmaker> that's not even gmt midnight :-)
18:23:26  <V453000> I know :P
18:23:26  <planetmaker> nor cest
18:23:31  <planetmaker> then you might as well go for now
18:23:36  <planetmaker> when people are still awake
18:23:44  <V453000> I need to make a few adjustments to the purchase menu
18:24:10  <planetmaker> haleluja
18:24:17  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ok, just run it when you think it's ready :-) (and start finishing it now ;-))
18:24:38  <planetmaker> just start a game and fix your stuff properly and use it for the next game
18:24:45  <PublicServer> <Ryton> everybody has high hopes, you know :p ;-)
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18:25:10  <V453000> well all purchase info wrong is a bit sucky :D
18:25:17  <V453000> ok, all except 1 train
18:25:26  <planetmaker> that's why I say 'next game'. Not this.
18:25:44  <V453000> nah
18:25:47  <PublicServer> <Ryton> or interrupt the running game for a day?
18:25:55  <planetmaker> surely not
18:26:15  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ok, just an idea :-) :P
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18:30:29  <PublicServer> <Ryton> the hub rolller coaster is funny :D
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18:54:08  <mfb-> hi
18:54:46  <PublicServer> <mfb> what happened to hub roller coaster :(
18:55:54  <V453000> Booth crashed it I think
18:56:08  <PublicServer> <mfb> evil booth
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19:37:16  <Ryton> and... nothing new yet?
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19:39:42  <planetmaker> oh, there's already a release posting.
19:39:47  <planetmaker> Waiting to be submitted.
19:39:53  <planetmaker> To the OpenTTD page ;-)
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19:54:11  <Mazur> Ladidadida.
19:59:38  <Ryton> I d love to see the neat cat in action!
20:02:10  <V453000> why does everyone talk only about the cat? ._.
20:03:17  <mfb-> which cat?
20:04:42  <hylje> neat cat
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20:06:20  * Mazur loves cats.
20:06:21  <V453000> well that is another thing, it is not neat but mind ill
20:06:40  <Mazur> I told you, NUTS needs a flying pig.
20:06:59  <Mazur> "When pigs fly" would be when NITS is finished?
20:07:04  <Mazur> NUTS
20:07:28  <Ryton> cause it is colorful, V!
20:08:15  <Ryton> but the rest might keep our attention longer ;-)
20:10:43  <V453000> I created a forum thread about development of nuts and asked for engine ideas
20:10:51  <V453000> after I posted the cat nobody wrote anything serious anymore
20:10:52  <V453000> ...
20:11:15  <Tray> feeding trolls ...?
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20:26:22  <Ryton> there were some interesting futuristic train and bus concepts offered, IMHO, also afterwards.
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20:28:54  <V453000> mfb-: is the game ready for archiving?
20:29:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> I see no major issues
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20:29:40  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
20:29:48  <PublicServer> <mfb> hub roller coaster could get trains again
20:30:36  <V453000> well then I go make a map :)
20:31:17  <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined company #1
20:31:18  <mfb-> !unpause
20:31:19  <PublicServer> *** mfb- has unpaused the server. (Use !auto to set it back.)
20:31:19  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
20:31:21  <mfb-> I'll add them
20:32:14  <V453000> many pls :>
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20:35:18  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi
20:35:20  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
20:35:31  <mfb-> !rcon set max_trains 1430
20:35:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we stocking up the rollercoaster?
20:36:05  <PublicServer> <mfb> right
20:36:15  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, fail
20:37:22  <mfb-> !rcon set max_trains 1460
20:38:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> enough trains now?
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20:39:33  <PublicServer> <mfb> I think the line is equal to the round-trip length
20:40:07  <mfb-> 20
20:40:11  <mfb-> !rcon set max_trains 1480
20:40:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I see a big crash coming
20:43:26  <V453000> !password
20:43:26  <PublicServer> V453000: crispy
20:43:28  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm.. large injection gap
20:43:30  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
20:43:34  <PublicServer> <mfb> well, does not matter
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20:43:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you can crash and start again
20:43:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> haioo
20:43:54  <PublicServer> <mfb> or inject one more
20:44:00  <PublicServer> <mfb> no, that is ok
20:44:00  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi V453
20:44:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh yes big coaster :)
20:44:57  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hhhm I want a 92 train pile up!
20:45:03  <PublicServer> <mfb> no!
20:45:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but
20:46:16  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol train 1444
20:46:39  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> :D
20:46:39  <PublicServer> <mfb> wtf
20:46:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I got them close
20:47:18  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> your no fun
20:48:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they would have been fine for ever at that distance
20:48:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and looked cool
20:48:40  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving)
20:48:42  <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, game is done :
20:48:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> p
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20:49:20  <V453000> new game? .)
20:49:55  <V453000> !save
20:49:56  <PublicServer> Saving game...
20:50:11  <V453000> !transfer 230 game.sav
20:50:14  <PublicServer> V453000: PublicServerGame_230_Final.sav
20:50:15  <PublicServer> V453000: Transfer done. (/home/openttd/svn-publicserver/autopilot/save/game.sav->
20:50:32  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
20:50:32  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
20:50:47  <V453000> !gamenr 231
20:50:47  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has set gamenr to 231 (next !restart)
20:50:49  <V453000> !content
20:50:49  <PublicServer> V453000: Connection established
20:50:49  <PublicServer> V453000: Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
20:50:49  <PublicServer> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
20:50:51  <V453000> !content
20:50:53  <PublicServer> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
20:50:55  <PublicServer> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
20:50:55  <PublicServer> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
20:53:34  <V453000> !getsave
20:53:34  <Mazur> !stage Switching
20:53:36  <PublicServer> V453000: OK :-)
20:53:39  <V453000> !restart
20:53:39  <PublicServer> V453000: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
20:53:57  <V453000> there we go
20:54:01  <V453000> get ready for madness
20:54:01  <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
20:54:01  <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r23974.
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20:54:12  <Mazur> !stage MM & Planning?
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20:54:35  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server ('
20:54:35  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer
20:54:35  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG231 (r23974) | STAGE: Building | | New players, use @quickstart and !help |"
20:54:52  <V453000> if screenshot doesnt come out you are dead mazur
20:55:00  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000249B4:
20:55:11  <V453000> oh you made it with a space :)
20:55:14  * Mazur dies nonetheless.
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20:55:33  <V453000> !auto
20:55:33  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode.
20:55:35  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:55:36  <V453000> !changepw
20:55:37  <PublicServer> V453000: Password changed to planks
20:55:51  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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20:56:16  <V453000> @tweet Come join the April Fools game on Public Server! PSG 231 starts NOW!
20:56:38  <V453000> !rcon set min_active_clients
20:56:38  <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 255)
20:56:43  <V453000> !rcon set min_active_clients 2
20:56:43  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
20:56:59  <V453000> the stage is correct however, Mazur
20:57:12  <V453000> @whoami
20:57:12  <Webster> V453000: V453000
20:57:33  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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20:57:42  <Thorinbur> I love how your threat is on the screenshoot V
20:57:58  <V453000> @tweet Come join the April Fools game on Public Server! PSG 231 starts NOW!
20:57:59  <Webster> V453000: The operation succeeded.
20:58:01  <V453000> threat :D
20:58:24  <Webster> 1 new tweet(s): openttdcoop Come join the April Fools game on Public Server! PSG 231 starts NOW! ^V4, 23 seconds ago via SupyTweet. (186195661027414017)
20:58:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> so here it is :)
20:59:19  <Ryton> !password
20:59:20  <PublicServer> Ryton: planks
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21:00:33  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> So? Can we do whatever we please basicly? No griefing of course :)
21:00:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
21:00:41  <PublicServer> *** Ryton has left the game (connection lost)
21:00:48  <Mazur> What option showed competitor signs, again?  Can't seem to find it.
21:00:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> trains only preferably
21:01:05  <hylje> is it toyland
21:01:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> one company?
21:01:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> some in the options, but these are scenario editor signs
21:01:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> Thorinbur: ...
21:01:43  <V453000> !rcon set max_companies
21:01:43  <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'max_companies' is: '1' (min: 1, max: 15)
21:01:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> what... My first chaos game.
21:01:53  <hylje> april fools coop: NO COOP ALLOWED
21:01:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes but company amount is 100% obvious
21:02:26  <KenjiE20> build All The Things
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21:08:22  <Ryton> pfftv
21:08:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk how you manage that, map is empty
21:08:49  <Ryton> i ll have to check it out later tten
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21:10:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> hello :)
21:10:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :o chaos
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21:10:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and wait what
21:10:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> different networks?
21:10:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> do you really want to do this V? :P
21:10:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> absolutely dont care
21:10:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> anything anyone wants
21:11:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> soon enough people wont be able to choose which engine to use
21:11:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> so multiple networks arent bad
21:11:20  <Ryton> im having a remote ronertion from smartphone to pc, worked flawless earlier, but not today it seems
21:12:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> just build and enjoy it :)
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21:12:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> finally we can go NUTS
21:12:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, that i will
21:12:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i wonder how long it takes before someone makes drive on left though :P
21:12:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> xD
21:13:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw every 30 minutes there is a new engine coming
21:14:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> for one of the 5 classes
21:14:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> starting after 1930 I think though
21:14:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> nice
21:14:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> this is your train set?
21:14:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
21:14:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> nice
21:15:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i havent played with it so far
21:15:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> many things are very temporary, for example majority of early game sprites are going to be redrawn or improved, train stats are guessed, but it works
21:15:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: released 20 minutes ago
21:15:33  <PublicServer> * XeryusTC cries
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21:15:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Munnbury coal mine :o
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21:15:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> whats wrong
21:16:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> massive dislike of the forced turn around
21:16:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> makes depot invisible
21:16:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> you will see how it helps when autoreplacing
21:16:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> 0 jams
21:16:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'd rather just have service centres
21:16:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> that still jams or sends trains where they shouldnt be
21:17:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> and replacing is every 2.5 hours if you stay in the vehicle class, or often if you experiment
21:17:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> so doing it without harm is a good idea I think
21:18:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw use same speed trains for the network please
21:18:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but i dont like it that trains must go through a turn around to leave the station
21:18:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> then make the station terminus I dont care :D
21:18:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> meh, i use max speed because of the distance :P
21:18:29  <PublicServer> * XeryusTC slaps some sense into V
21:18:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> god :-D
21:18:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok, fuck everything :-D
21:18:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw every primary station should have its replacement deopt
21:18:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> depot
21:19:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> service centres <3
21:19:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
21:19:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> no accessible depots
21:19:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> okay I will just make the drop terminus
21:19:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> is Dredingstone coal mine ok then? :P
21:20:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
21:20:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> I can also officially hate you now
21:20:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> well except the trains xD
21:20:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the trains are epic, stfu
21:20:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just look at how well it is able to pull that load!
21:20:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes :-D
21:20:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> especially up the hill
21:21:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
21:21:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or on the flat :P
21:21:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the difference is only 10km/h :P
21:21:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm :)
21:21:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> but yeah thye suck :)
21:21:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> which is good, it is weak category
21:21:54  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is your train set, so it is your fault
21:22:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> ofc is :) but stats are just guessed for now
21:22:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but i like it when a single engine cant just maintain full speed all the time
21:22:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it's why i play UKRS with weight multiplyer
21:22:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> multipliers too ;)
21:23:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> hate multipliers
21:23:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> first trains till on its way :D
21:23:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw rail flatbed wagons suck big time :-D
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21:24:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol
21:24:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> the first generation that is, second is nice
21:24:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, it hought the train couldnt make it up the hill
21:24:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> turned out that it is stuck behind another one :P
21:24:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and i need to fix my typing
21:25:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> who cares about typing
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21:26:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> at least it goes full speed up hills...
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21:29:58  <Ryton> try 3 failed as well ... last shot
21:30:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> why this angled rail behind terminus?
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21:30:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> for lost trains
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21:30:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> makes sure pre-signals dont block up
21:30:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> pathfinder goofiness
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21:32:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> invasion!!!
21:32:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> boo!
21:32:57  <PublicServer> *** Ryton has left the game (connection lost)
21:33:21  <Ryton> given up
21:33:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> w00t 2cc <3
21:33:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
21:35:00  <Ryton> i'll have to wait till tomorrow now, I guess
21:35:54  <Ryton> enjoy the test of nuttyness!
21:36:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
21:36:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Should we maybe group the trains?
21:36:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont care
21:37:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you want, group them, I say play and have fun and do whatever you like
21:41:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> BAD TRAINSET
21:41:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> stupid game
21:41:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> *ragequit*
21:41:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol :-D
21:41:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> actually, it has shrunk :s
21:41:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> punishment
21:42:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, back to normal :D
21:45:07  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> sign list only displays signs from the current company nowadays?
21:45:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> these are scenario editor signs
21:45:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh
21:45:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you can't even click them :o
21:45:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> yep
21:45:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> didnt know that :o
21:45:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is relatively new
21:46:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i play this game too little anyway
21:46:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> what the bloody fuck are you doing around that factory :D
21:46:37  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ^^
21:46:43  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Playing around
21:46:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i am not doing anything anywhere
21:46:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh :>
21:50:13  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Ok... now to connect it XD
21:51:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok 50kmh pax trains are SLOW :D
21:51:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D
21:51:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> jesus fuck
21:51:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wow
21:51:49  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> they are
21:52:07  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :(
21:52:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i wanted to see :O
21:52:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> ICE trains coming in about 2 years
21:52:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol ICE in 1926? :D
21:52:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> intercity class
21:52:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> steamers anyway
21:52:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, my trains go 14km/h uphill :D
21:52:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> congratulations
21:53:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> <3 weak trains
21:54:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> last train comes in 2060 btw :p
21:54:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> and then there is one bonus in 2080
21:54:47  <Sylf>  !password
21:54:47  <PublicServer> Sylf: lumped
21:54:50  <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost)
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21:55:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :)
21:55:11  <Rhamphoryncus> !password
21:55:12  <PublicServer> Rhamphoryncus: lumped
21:55:17  <PublicServer> <Sylf> hey
21:55:22  <PublicServer> *** Rhamphoryncus joined the game
21:55:23  <mfb-> !password
21:55:23  <PublicServer> mfb-: lumped
21:55:36  <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game
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22:00:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> epic shortcut :D
22:00:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> :>
22:00:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets turn this game to shit :-D
22:00:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :P
22:00:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is you who wanted chaos
22:00:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I already did.
22:00:56  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> working on it
22:00:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'm just turning it into a game that i will have fun fixing later on :P
22:01:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> XD
22:01:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure, whatever comes :)
22:02:35  <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> Hmm.  On the one hand I should use some safety messures to ensure my construct isn't broken later
22:02:41  <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> On the other hand.. NAH :D
22:03:03  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Factory almost ready :)
22:03:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fucking hell
22:03:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> my coal mine is only shrinking
22:03:27  <PublicServer> <Sylf> :P
22:03:45  <PublicServer> <Sylf> hmm, which steel mill to use...
22:04:00  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Who wants the honour of breaking the safety contruct as soon as V's back is turned?
22:04:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> join thorinburs one or just do whatever
22:04:21  <PublicServer> <Sylf> oh, that's a steel mill
22:04:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> feel free to choose another one
22:04:51  <PublicServer> <Sylf> painkiller sure is weak :D
22:04:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> anything you want
22:04:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> but fast :)
22:05:06  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :)
22:05:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V: why is that flatbed thing crappy btw?
22:05:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> works fine it seems :o
22:05:29  <PublicServer> <Sylf> lolslow on uphill >_<
22:05:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> because I havent drawn a better one yet
22:05:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> xD
22:05:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> they need urgent redoing
22:06:00  *** BiGMeEcH has joined #openttdcoop
22:06:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> load them with goods, they dont look too well
22:06:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont remember steel
22:06:08  <BiGMeEcH> hi
22:06:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> but modern wagons are quite nice I think
22:06:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi Meech :)
22:06:21  <BiGMeEcH> so now to get the right versioN?
22:06:26  <V453000> @quickstart
22:06:27  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
22:06:28  <V453000> tells you all
22:06:52  <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> oi, much too early to bankrupt the company XD
22:07:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> wont be so easy
22:07:25  <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> tunnel:  million
22:07:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> especially when all running costs are 1.5k per year
22:07:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
22:08:19  <BiGMeEcH> am i in the right irc spot?
22:08:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no
22:08:28  <V453000> yes
22:08:38  <PublicServer> <Sylf> no.  You need to be in the game! :P
22:08:44  <Mazur> Depends on what you;re looking for, Beach.
22:08:52  <BiGMeEcH> V told me to join PS
22:09:05  <Mazur> This is ps' channel.
22:09:07  <PublicServer> * V453000 claims innocence
22:09:11  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> If V told you, than you better do
22:09:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we know you arent V
22:09:36  <Mazur> V was born guilty, and became more guilty every day since.
22:09:38  <BiGMeEcH> well, now to install the game =S
22:09:46  <V453000> !dl
22:09:46  <PublicServer> V453000: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
22:09:46  <PublicServer> V453000:
22:09:51  <Mazur> I recommend autostart,.
22:09:53  <V453000> this is the correct version
22:10:05  <BiGMeEcH> archive not supported =S
22:10:05  <Mazur> On linux.
22:13:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> what the hell are you doing Rham :z
22:13:20  <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> insanity.  Wait and see XD
22:13:23  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> looong slow bridges
22:13:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> chaos doesnt mean do _complete_ horseshit
22:13:32  <Sylf> is autostart the one it downloads the source and compiles automatically?
22:13:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> some bounds please
22:13:50  <BiGMeEcH> im downloading a windows version now, i know how to work that
22:14:22  <PublicServer> <Sylf> linux pre-compiled is just as easy...
22:14:36  <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> it worked in my test, so just wait
22:14:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> still fucking linux :)
22:14:48  <PublicServer> <Sylf> WTF
22:14:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> Rhamphoryncus: please DONT kill money with STUPID bridges
22:14:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> please do it "normally"
22:15:00  <PublicServer> <Sylf> that's beyond stupid
22:15:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> you are just abusing chaos
22:15:24  <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> No no, I have a plan
22:15:28  <PublicServer> <Sylf> You've been warned
22:15:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wtf bridges
22:15:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> you have been very warned
22:15:35  <PublicServer> <Sylf> Chaos does NOT mean anything goes
22:15:37  <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> and the bridges are MUCH cheaper than tunnels
22:15:45  <PublicServer> <Sylf> NO
22:15:51  <PublicServer> <Sylf> You're building like a retard
22:15:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> please, start doing it normally
22:16:43  <BiGMeEcH> NewBridges is not found for me ?
22:16:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol meech doesnt have grf pack?
22:16:57  <V453000> !grf
22:16:57  <PublicServer> V453000: (Version 8.0)
22:16:58  <PublicServer> <Sylf> "chaos" game only means there's no pre-determined network plan
22:17:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> ^
22:17:12  <PublicServer> <Sylf> It doesn't mean we get to break all the building styles and rules
22:17:14  <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> Look, I'll remove it if it doesn't work, okay?
22:17:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> no you will remove it now
22:17:25  <PublicServer> <Sylf> it doesn't work per coop style
22:17:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> or we remove you, sorry
22:17:30  <PublicServer> <Sylf> we already know it
22:17:39  <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> feh
22:17:52  <BiGMeEcH> ty, few more mins
22:17:52  <PublicServer> <Sylf> thank you.
22:18:33  <BiGMeEcH> im looking forward to seeing V's nuts ;)
22:18:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> want a photo?
22:18:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh these nuts...
22:18:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> okay.
22:18:48  <BiGMeEcH> haha
22:18:53  <BiGMeEcH> 8)
22:19:00  <PublicServer> <Sylf> bad.
22:19:02  <PublicServer> <Sylf> BAD
22:19:04  <PublicServer> <Sylf> ugh bad.
22:19:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> what is?
22:19:21  <PublicServer> *** Rhamphoryncus has left the game (leaving)
22:22:01  <BiGMeEcH> =\
22:22:05  <BiGMeEcH> I will be back after dinner
22:22:16  <PublicServer> <Sylf> oh, it's that kind of time already
22:23:08  <BiGMeEcH> indeed
22:24:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> someone has the signal distance wrong
22:24:24  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh
22:25:14  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ok so factory is ready for 4 lane input and output XD
22:25:20  <PublicServer> <mfb> wtf
22:25:40  <BiGMeEcH> password?
22:25:47  <mfb-> @quickstart
22:25:47  <V453000> !password
22:25:47  <PublicServer> V453000: razing
22:25:48  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
22:25:52  <Sylf> !pass.....
22:25:55  <Sylf> too slow
22:25:57  <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (connection lost)
22:26:27  <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to Meech
22:26:29  <PublicServer> <Meech> hi
22:26:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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22:26:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> why do goods trains have only 4 wagons?
22:26:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, MIG Beach.
22:26:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> welcome :P
22:26:59  <PublicServer> <Meech> lo
22:27:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> they do?
22:27:05  <PublicServer> *** Meech has joined company #1
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22:27:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Because the goods in the fifth wagon turned bads.
22:27:47  <PublicServer> <Sylf> :P
22:27:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fortunately they cant be sent to depot :P
22:27:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> and I wonder how did you make the goods crate sprites o_O I thought only containers are coded
22:28:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> meh xD
22:28:23  <PublicServer> *** Ryton has left the game (connection lost)
22:28:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> YES
22:28:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> ICE
22:29:03  <PublicServer> <mfb> "everything is a hub"
22:29:18  <PublicServer> <Sylf> ?
22:29:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> my new building style
22:30:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> new trains on pax line :)
22:30:21  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> you like building hubs mfb? Connect my factoy station to the network XD
22:30:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> L_R hub is done within a minute
22:30:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I a just joking:)
22:30:53  <PublicServer> <mfb> that is the point
22:31:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> mfb made a nice join before split :D
22:31:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> I know
22:31:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> and I don't care
22:31:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i noticed
22:31:51  <PublicServer> <Meech> you guys have lots of lost trains
22:32:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> ooh, universal wagons are goods - crates, flatbeds are goods - containers :)
22:32:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> goods
22:32:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> good
22:34:25  <PublicServer> *** Meech has joined spectators
22:34:29  <PublicServer> <Meech> gotta eat
22:35:51  <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving)
22:36:13  <PublicServer> <Meech> i had portable food
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22:36:44  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> thats overkill :)
22:37:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> looks horrible at this stage of game, but w/e
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22:38:14  <PublicServer> <Kanddak> hi
22:38:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> hello
22:38:26  <PublicServer> <Kanddak> brand new here. anyone building anything interesting I can watch?
22:38:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> we are everyone building everything atm
22:38:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> We are going NUTS right now
22:39:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you see something, feel free to connect it, this game is very free minded, we are celebrating a new train set, NUTS
22:40:53  <PublicServer> <Meech> ty for inviting me V
22:41:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> :ú
22:41:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> :p
22:41:26  <PublicServer> <Meech> first one looks like a cigarette
22:42:01  <PublicServer> <Meech> bb
22:43:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Now I wonder what should this factory station be. Drop or Pickup.
22:43:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> drop
22:43:12  <PublicServer> <mfb> lol
22:43:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or mixed
22:43:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> then make 2 stations in such case
22:43:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think this may end up like the last chaos game
22:43:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> where all the drop stations were located on one side of the map
22:43:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and only 1 (the least used one) was on the other side of the map
22:44:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> ¨lmfao who named it MSH 01
22:44:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think the thing at wood is the first msh though :P
22:44:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> nothing is msh
22:45:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> if msh == messhub, then perhaps
22:45:22  <PublicServer> <mfb> first pax connection on the large network :)
22:45:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, it is a hub for a main station
22:45:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> w/e
22:46:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
22:46:34  <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving)
22:46:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think it would be better to use the cargo engines there mfb
22:46:37  <mfb-> good night
22:46:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> gn
22:46:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
22:48:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2 more years until shitstorm of engines :)
22:49:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D
22:50:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> zomfg single platform stations :s
22:51:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> dafuq? where?
22:51:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> near wood
22:51:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> :o
22:51:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> is it that big of a deal? with 32 production
22:51:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
22:51:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> always 2+
22:52:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> so you have train always loading
22:53:03  <PublicServer> *** Meech has left the game (general timeout)
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22:54:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> who creates these big coal stations with all of those trains?
22:55:20  <Mazur> If it's in the NW it was me.
22:55:41  * Mazur was also born guilty.
22:55:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont make accessible depots Mazur, really
22:57:05  <Webster> Latest update from openttd: OpenTTD 1.2.0? <>
23:01:18  <PublicServer> <Kanddak> can I ask someone who knows what they're doing if the station I connected at little bindingworth coal mine is ok
23:01:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> what? V? are you hight? You are transporting livestock in tankers?
23:01:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> fishies? :)
23:01:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> or milk
23:02:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> livestock = cows
23:02:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> this is NUTS you know...
23:02:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> Kanddak: good :)
23:02:41  <PublicServer> <Kanddak> thanks
23:02:52  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wood is sometimes very busy btw
23:02:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that prio really is needed :D
23:03:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> new strong trains in a year
23:03:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> will help
23:05:32  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> we need better bridges :)
23:05:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> Thorinbur: see? they fill with water :) with fishies
23:06:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw how do you like that wagons are purchased in pairs to make for full halftiles?
23:06:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I think they are demolekulising cows , than recreate them .
23:07:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> do you get only one wagon if you have a .75 loco so you get 1 tile train?
23:07:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> there are no 0.75 locos
23:07:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> everything is 0.5 tiles
23:07:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> or 1.0 for passenger only trians
23:07:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> trains
23:08:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> who keeps changing colours?
23:08:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> me
23:08:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :(
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23:16:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we should expand the big network over the entire map :P
23:16:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
23:16:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> we can have parts as mono, parts as maglev and parts as rail
23:16:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> all three railtypes have advantages and downsides, you cant obviously choose "the best one"
23:19:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no accesible depots causes a jam :o
23:19:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf?
23:20:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> cant delete trains
23:20:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> make overflow?
23:20:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> overflows suck
23:20:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> noob
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23:20:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> if you have to make overflows then you have a broken network
23:20:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
23:21:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> just saves you managing train count
23:21:08  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> well if you have 4 platfor pickup just next to HUB than you have broken network
23:21:18  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ^^
23:21:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there is waiting space for 4 trains which should be sufficient
23:21:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> until i added too many trains :P
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23:22:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> simple as that
23:23:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> as this network _will_ be messy, you will really need them a lot
23:23:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> I doubt anyone wants to constantly check where loading trains make jams
23:23:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no, it means you have too many trains
23:23:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> which means that you have to remove trains
23:24:07  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not that you can just stuff them in a depot until they're needed
23:24:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> and you want to constantly look over every single station?
23:25:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> if you havent noticed, that is what i have been doing ever since i joined #openttdcoop
23:25:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is called train management
23:25:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is part of building huge networks
23:25:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I rhought it was train fairy!
23:26:04  <hylje> trains manage themselves, but only if Xer is around
23:26:18  <hylje> let's not give him too much credit
23:26:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i have been the main person doing so in the past year
23:26:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> or if someone builds an overflow
23:26:34  <PublicServer> <Kanddak> whoever's doing prundingham woods clear for me to connect some coal mines to that sideline?
23:26:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> if you were not allowed to build overflows and i didnt join games everything would break down
23:26:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
23:26:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> not allowed because it works
23:27:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> xD
23:27:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> having overflows means that your network cant handle your trains
23:27:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or that you have too many trains for the amount of goods you need to transport
23:27:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> in both cases you are doing something wrong
23:27:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> not really
23:27:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> it makes you pick up more goods in fact
23:27:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> as trains always load
23:28:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> and removes any issues with pickup trains blocking
23:28:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no overflows != having one train loading at a time
23:28:15  <mrruben5> evening guys
23:28:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes but having 6 waiting spaces is not flexible enough, station was empty often
23:29:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> if you had ever learned to do proper train management you'd know that you can build an amount of trains that fits exactly with that station
23:29:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> in some cases not
23:29:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but fortunately you are one of those persons who'd rather have 3 trains waiting for a primary while there are also 2 loading in the station
23:29:31  <mrruben5> !password
23:29:31  <PublicServer> mrruben5: apples
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23:29:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes I would
23:29:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> if the station is serviced well, and will be serviced well
23:29:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that makes you a moron
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23:30:09  <PublicServer> <mrruben5> really openttd, you fail so much
23:30:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you fit the trains to the cargo produced
23:30:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> and I think that your hate against overflows is completely retarded, great
23:30:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> :P
23:30:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not just build stupid sinkholes to cover up your flaws
23:31:02  <PublicServer> <mrruben5> wait.. is this a new PSG?
23:31:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there is no skill in having 500 trains sitting in the depot because they dont fit on the network
23:31:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> right :) and I think there is no skill in adding or removing trains on many stations as a monkey
23:31:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont care what you say tbh and I dont think you will manage to convince me otherwise.
23:32:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you mean that there is no skill in predicting how many trains a station will need?
23:32:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
23:32:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no because you pressing ctrl+copy 50 times is skill
23:32:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> no because building overflows is interesting and can be complicated
23:32:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> my dead dog can do that
23:33:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Both aproaches are ok, and require different skillsets.
23:33:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ok, so this game you go manage trains to fit exactly to the stations and i build an alternative depot option to every station and we'll see what takes more skill in the end?
23:33:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wont do that horseshit
23:34:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> just stop discussing about it you wont reach anything
23:34:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, then i dont want any overflows on my stations
23:34:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> /care
23:35:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> really, there is more to this game than just being able to build huge complicated things, and you are a moron for not seeing that
23:35:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> fuck
23:35:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> of
23:35:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> f
23:35:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> already
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23:35:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wont agree with you
23:36:01  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Woah...
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23:37:51  <Meechilicious> !password
23:37:51  <PublicServer> Meechilicious: apples
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23:41:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Try not to teraform that uch whoever yo are:)
23:41:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> Kanddak:
23:41:48  <PublicServer> <Kanddak> ok.
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23:42:42  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> just terraform where you need keeping it mostly natural, instead of flattening parts in preparation to building
23:44:17  <PublicServer> <mrruben5> I am confused
23:44:25  <PublicServer> <mrruben5> where are the build plans?
23:44:30  <Meechilicious> go NUTS!
23:44:32  <Meechilicious> xD
23:44:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> read gametype?
23:44:40  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Thats the point. There are none
23:44:50  <PublicServer> <Meech> all your base are belong to us
23:45:16  <PublicServer> <mrruben5> heh I didn't see any !! signs so I couldn't see gametype :)
23:45:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> why dont you read signs when you enter then
23:45:37  <PublicServer> <Meech> what are the illiterate players going to do?
23:46:07  <PublicServer> <mrruben5> @v: I tried, but I didnt see any yet :)
23:46:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> Thorinbur: mind if I rebuild your steel mill to a refit station?
23:46:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Not at all, go ahead
23:46:50  <PublicServer> <Sylf> :o
23:47:10  <PublicServer> <Sylf> refit at steel mill?
23:47:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
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23:47:20  <PublicServer> <Sylf> OH, the universal wagon
23:47:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> NARS only right :)
23:47:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> :P
23:48:39  <PublicServer> <Meech> what are the rules concerning station spread?
23:48:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> what?
23:48:51  <PublicServer> <Sylf> not to use
23:48:57  <PublicServer> <Sylf> in general.
23:49:03  <PublicServer> <Meech> ok
23:49:17  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I mean, don't abuse the station walk when it's uncalled for
23:49:32  <PublicServer> <Meech> like near sinningley oil refiner,y the 2 wood forests you wouldnt want to use walking then?
23:50:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you consider this walking
23:50:04  <PublicServer> <Sylf> you can catch both with 1 station
23:50:06  <PublicServer> <mrruben5> Any rules for feeding?
23:50:08  <PublicServer> <Meech> oh
23:50:30  <PublicServer> <mrruben5> if not, I'd like to make a shared order sub network for wood at slendingham
23:50:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure do
23:50:46  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> How do you upgrade to different railtype? Do you stop all trains before doing so? What about different depots for different rails? Do you have to add trains from very begining?
23:50:52  <PublicServer> <mrruben5> just want to know what wood drop station to use
23:50:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> no we have a universal railtype for that Thorinbur
23:51:08  <PublicServer> <Sylf> there's universal engine grf for that kind of upgrade
23:51:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> whichever mrruben5
23:51:24  <PublicServer> <mrruben5> cool
23:51:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Not possibe in vanilla than?
23:51:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
23:51:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is a newgrf
23:51:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> nuts will probably have its own later
23:51:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> k, thx
23:52:15  <PublicServer> <Meech> pax and mail allowed here?
23:52:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
23:52:20  <PublicServer> <Sylf> yes
23:52:38  <PublicServer> <Sylf> where's the nuts cargo set?  almonds, peanuts, cashew?
23:52:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> no :)
23:52:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> none
23:52:52  <PublicServer> <Meech> coconut
23:52:55  <PublicServer> <Sylf> damn
23:53:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> the most interesting probably are some maglev cargoes
23:53:17  <PublicServer> <Meech> and here i nt he ps,how o doy ufeel about rv's / planes  /ect
23:53:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> aaand fishies in tankers, those are visible on monorail and maglev
23:53:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> train only is best
23:53:37  <V453000> !rcon set max_roadveh %
23:53:37  <PublicServer> V453000: '%' is not an integer.
23:53:43  <V453000> !rcon set max_roadveh 0
23:53:47  <Mazur> Ya put da lime in da coconut and drink it all up, ya put da lime in da coconut and call me in da morning.
23:53:49  <PublicServer> <Meech> cuz i w aslooking forkward t obeing  acptain
23:53:50  <V453000> !rcon set max_ships 0
23:53:55  <V453000> !rcon set max_aircraft 0
23:54:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> ships? say it again?
23:54:10  <PublicServer> <Meech> yes
23:54:13  <PublicServer> <Meech> Cap'n Meech
23:54:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> nothing is more retarded than ships
23:54:21  <PublicServer> <Meech> sorta like captain crunch
23:54:38  <PublicServer> <Meech> aww ;) okies
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23:55:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> I already disabled all veh types but trains btw
23:55:27  <PublicServer> <Meech> =(
23:56:10  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Why exit signal?
23:56:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> at the exit of refit depo
23:56:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> makes sure the depots dont stack up trains
23:57:48  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Wouldnt that work as simple overflow than?
23:57:54  <mrruben5> !cl
23:58:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> could
23:58:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> not in this form
23:58:44  <PublicServer> <mrruben5> does anyone know off the top of their head what CL to use?
23:58:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> 3
23:58:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> when TL is 3
23:58:53  <Mazur> Trainlength.
23:58:55  <PublicServer> <mrruben5> thanks
23:59:14  <PublicServer> <mrruben5> figured something like that but wasnt sure

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