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Log for #openttdcoop on 10th April 2012:
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06:58:11  <Tray> !password
06:58:11  <PublicServer> Tray: smears
06:58:29  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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07:07:13  <V453000> !password
07:07:13  <PublicServer> V453000: smears
07:07:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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07:13:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> Holy Shit :D
07:13:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> look at train 1
07:13:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> major gfx bug with loaded rubber train
07:14:02  <PublicServer> <Tray> (:
07:15:13  <planetmaker> V453000: you might want to consider a proper minimum OpenTTD version for your NewGRF on bananas
07:15:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> bananas doesnt offer 1.2
07:15:38  <V453000> also hi :)
07:17:06  <planetmaker> It has... 12000000
07:17:21  <planetmaker> 1.2.0 doesn't exist yet
07:18:19  <planetmaker> @base 10 16 23166
07:18:19  <Webster> planetmaker: 5A7E
07:18:24  <V453000> so I select custom and write tehre 12000000?
07:18:29  <planetmaker> thus better 12005A7E
07:18:36  <planetmaker> @base 16 10 12005A7E
07:18:37  <Webster> planetmaker: 302013054
07:18:48  <planetmaker> 302013054
07:19:03  <V453000> o_O
07:19:05  <planetmaker> which is 1.2.0-alpha-r23166
07:19:07  <Tray> Looks wierd. o:
07:19:22  <planetmaker> newgrf version is decimal. But bananas accepts decimal
07:19:26  <V453000> okay, updated
07:19:28  <planetmaker> is hexadecimal
07:19:36  <Tray> Shouldn't Bananas be able to understand rfoobar instead of what the heck numbers?
07:19:43  <planetmaker> no
07:20:04  <Tray> I'm interested: Why no? (:
07:20:59  <planetmaker> current nightly is 0x1300NNNN while 1.2.0 will be 0x1208SSSS
07:21:14  <planetmaker> thus revision doesn't give sequentially compatibility
07:21:45  <planetmaker> as 1.2.0 version < current nightly though 1.2.0 isn't even released yet
07:22:08  <planetmaker> it becomes worse for things like 1.1.5 which has a revision similar to 1.2.0-beta1 though they grossly differ in NewGRF capability
07:22:46  <Tray> So the problem that svn revisions doesn't care for branches?
07:22:52  <planetmaker> exactly
07:23:11  <V453000> well at least it is fixed now :) thanks for pointing it out
07:23:14  <planetmaker> even if it did, it'd need a way to know which branch is older
07:23:51  <planetmaker> or which is older: cargodest-rXXXX or regions-rXXXX ? :-)
07:23:56  <planetmaker> (neither exists, but...)
07:24:04  <Tray> I get the point
07:24:24  <planetmaker> thx, V453000
07:24:25  <Tray> and those hexnumbers represent a commit just like git?
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07:24:43  <planetmaker> hu? no
07:24:55  <Tray> So: What do they do?
07:25:26  <planetmaker> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Version_numbers
07:25:37  <planetmaker> last paragraph on openttd version
07:26:32  <planetmaker> hm, no: http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/GlobalVariables#OpenTTD_Version_.2821_.2F_A1.29
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07:27:09  <V453000> and there goes 0.0.5 update :D ... I will also update the grf on the server so we can have rubber wagons
07:27:24  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
07:27:55  <V453000> !content
07:27:55  <PublicServer> V453000: Connection established
07:27:55  <PublicServer> V453000: Downloading 2 file(s) (22395 bytes)
07:27:55  <PublicServer> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
07:28:00  <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving)
07:28:00  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
07:28:33  <V453000> !restart
07:28:33  <PublicServer> V453000: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
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07:29:01  <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
07:29:01  <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r23974.
07:29:05  <PublicServer> Server has exited
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07:29:10  <Tray> I got it, thanks planetmaker
07:29:30  <planetmaker> np
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07:29:37  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
07:29:37  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
07:29:37  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG232 (r23974) | STAGE: Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands"
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07:30:00  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000114C4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000114C4.png
07:30:29  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
07:30:32  <V453000> !changepw
07:30:32  <PublicServer> V453000: Password changed to deigns
07:30:33  <V453000> !auto
07:30:33  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode.
07:30:49  <V453000> hm not quite
07:30:58  <V453000> duh
07:31:00  <V453000> !content
07:31:00  <PublicServer> V453000: Connection established
07:31:00  <PublicServer> V453000: Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
07:31:00  <PublicServer> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
07:31:06  <V453000> !content
07:31:08  <PublicServer> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
07:31:10  <PublicServer> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
07:31:10  <PublicServer> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
07:31:14  <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving)
07:31:18  <V453000> this does strange things
07:31:19  <V453000> !content
07:31:21  <PublicServer> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
07:31:21  <PublicServer> V453000: Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
07:31:21  <PublicServer> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
07:31:44  <V453000> !content
07:31:46  <PublicServer> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
07:31:46  <PublicServer> V453000: Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
07:31:46  <PublicServer> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
07:31:54  <V453000> !restart
07:31:54  <PublicServer> V453000: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
07:32:02  <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
07:32:02  <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r23974.
07:32:05  <PublicServer> Server has exited
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07:32:15  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
07:32:15  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG232 (r23974) | STAGE: Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands"
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07:33:33  <V453000> !rcon cd 3
07:33:35  <V453000> !rcon load 2
07:33:38  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
07:33:51  <V453000> oh
07:33:55  <V453000> hang on :D
07:35:21  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
07:35:25  <V453000> !changepw
07:35:25  <PublicServer> V453000: Password changed to tabled
07:35:34  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
07:35:37  <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game
07:35:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> now it gets wtf
07:37:57  <V453000> !rcon set debug_level
07:37:57  <PublicServer> V453000: 'debug_level' is an unknown setting.
07:38:02  <V453000> !rcon debug_level
07:38:02  <PublicServer> V453000: Current debug-level: 'driver=0, grf=0, map=0, misc=0, net=0, sprite=0, oldloader=0, npf=0, yapf=0, freetype=0, script=0, sl=0, gamelog=0, desync=0, console=0'
07:38:26  <V453000> I wonder which one could be for error messages when loading savegame
07:38:48  <V453000> !rcon debug_level console 1
07:38:48  <PublicServer> V453000: - Get/set the default debugging level for the game. Usage: 'debug_level [<level>]'
07:38:48  <PublicServer> V453000: - Level can be any combination of names, levels. Eg 'net=5 ms=4'. Remember to enclose it in "'s
07:39:03  <planetmaker> you probably didn't update online content
07:39:08  <planetmaker> simply missing Newgrf
07:39:09  <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart (again, try !grf)
07:39:12  <V453000> I did :z
07:39:14  <planetmaker> !content
07:39:14  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Connection established
07:39:14  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
07:39:14  <PublicServer> planetmaker: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
07:39:19  <planetmaker> !restart
07:39:19  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
07:40:01  <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
07:40:01  <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r23974.
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07:40:14  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
07:40:14  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
07:40:14  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG232 (r23974) | STAGE: Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands"
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07:40:20  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00004422: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00004422.png
07:40:48  <V453000> still the same results :o
07:41:18  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
07:43:24  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
07:43:38  <V453000> hm I wonder what have I fucked up
07:43:41  <V453000> but it works now :d
07:43:50  <V453000> !changepw
07:43:50  <PublicServer> V453000: Password changed to jigsaw
07:43:52  <V453000> !auto
07:43:52  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode.
07:43:54  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
07:44:13  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
07:44:13  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
07:44:15  <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game
07:44:29  <V453000> !rcon set min_active_clients
07:44:29  <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 255)
07:44:30  <V453000> !rcon set min_active_clients 2
07:44:31  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
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07:56:46  <Maraxus> !password
07:56:46  <PublicServer> Maraxus: covets
07:56:56  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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07:57:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
07:57:03  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
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08:01:45  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> what's new in 0.0.5?
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08:03:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> compare with 0.0.4, just a fixed sprite for rubber wagons on maglev
08:03:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> as rubber is in this game :)
08:04:33  <Maraxus> will Doombringer get an icon in the available train list?
08:04:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont know :)
08:04:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe
08:04:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> probably will but later
08:05:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> there in fact is an icon but it is kind of empty :p
08:06:08  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> oh :)
08:06:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you dont add the icon yourself, it is added automatically, so to kill it you also have to do it manually :p
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08:08:31  <Hazzard> !players
08:08:34  <PublicServer> Hazzard: Client 7 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (Dog Head Corporation)
08:08:34  <PublicServer> Hazzard: Client 11 (Orange) is Maraxus, in company 1 (Dog Head Corporation)
08:08:37  <Hazzard> !password
08:08:37  <PublicServer> Hazzard: covets
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08:10:17  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> New Nuts?
08:10:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> almost every day :p
08:11:13  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Sexsmith
08:11:16  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Whta a great name
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08:14:24  <Absolutis> !passwrod
08:14:28  <Absolutis> !password
08:14:28  <PublicServer> Absolutis: photon
08:15:33  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hey
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08:15:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
08:16:41  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
08:17:12  <Absolutis> hm
08:17:18  <PublicServer> *** Absolutis has left the game (general timeout)
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08:17:35  <Absolutis> !password
08:17:35  <PublicServer> Absolutis: photon
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08:20:34  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> GIMP sure takes a lot of time loading my whole map picture...
08:20:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
08:22:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> you want to limit speed Tray?
08:22:17  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmm
08:22:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is 177 for CL1 btw
08:22:26  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> can i do some stuff on map for my plan
08:22:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol Abso :D
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08:22:43  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Growing some factory?
08:22:46  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> like, outside the plan area
08:22:58  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> omg so many points to grow at
08:23:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> with signs preferably I guess
08:23:15  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> and that damn paper mill grows at my plan
08:23:21  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Flood it :D
08:23:25  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> :D
08:24:23  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Fancy
08:32:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> right :d
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08:36:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?:(
08:36:15  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> V: Is that even going to have room for SLHs?
08:36:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
08:37:24  <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (general timeout)
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08:37:31  <Hazzard> D:
08:37:45  <Hazzard> Yeah
08:37:54  <Hazzard> Whole map screenshots on multiplay don't work
08:38:34  <Hazzard> !password
08:38:34  <PublicServer> Hazzard: errand
08:38:52  <PublicServer> *** Hazzard joined the game
08:39:25  <Hazzard> cmonnnn
08:39:31  <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (general timeout)
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08:39:37  <Hazzard> Ok, Im being stupid
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08:46:27  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I think that is houses and grass?
08:46:49  <Hazzard> Yeah, I couldn't figure that out either
08:47:20  <PublicServer> <Bassals> isn't it a rugby field?
08:48:14  <Hazzard>  I think it has something to do with the name Writing Stone
08:48:18  <Hazzard> or whatever it is
08:50:11  <Bassals> aah
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08:59:36  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> want some help naming the hubs v?
08:59:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> nah
08:59:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> no need for naming
08:59:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> would make it sign spam
09:00:02  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
09:00:32  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> that looks just like game 222 to me...
09:00:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats possible
09:01:05  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh, that kanddak
09:01:15  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> made some missions in SpaceChem
09:01:23  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> if he's the same one ofc
09:01:26  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> @@logs
09:01:27  <Webster> #openttdcoop IRC webstuff - IRC Log Viewer - http://webster.openttdcoop.org/
09:01:43  <Absolutis> @logs
09:01:50  <Absolutis> cmon webster don't hate me
09:03:52  <Absolutis> <Meech> and here i nt he ps,how o doy ufeel about rv's / planes  /ect
09:04:00  <Absolutis> there's a sentence hard to read
09:04:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> unedrstandable tho :d
09:04:35  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yes
09:05:06  <PublicServer> *** Absolutis has left the game (leaving)
09:05:17  <Absolutis> going to play some _nethaack
09:05:21  <Absolutis> _
09:06:07  <Bassals> are the ML something like LL_RR?
09:06:52  <Bassals> heh now I think I would like some 1-way mainlines
09:09:29  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined spectators
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09:09:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> Maraxus: doing something?
09:09:49  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> no
09:09:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> alright
09:10:25  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined company #1
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10:06:06  <Bassals> !ping
10:06:06  <PublicServer> Bassals: pong
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10:12:07  <Tray> !password
10:12:07  <PublicServer> Tray: welled
10:13:06  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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10:23:10  <Mark> morning
10:23:52  <Mark> !password
10:23:52  <PublicServer> Mark: welled
10:24:17  <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost)
10:24:19  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
10:24:33  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
10:24:35  <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game
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10:24:42  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
10:24:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> hy
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10:24:46  <PublicServer> <Mark> yo
10:25:08  <PublicServer> <Mark> oh cool
10:25:10  <PublicServer> <Mark> nice plan
10:25:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> saves me making one
10:25:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> thought so
10:25:31  <PublicServer> <Mark> lotsahubs
10:26:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> instant accel
10:26:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty much
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10:30:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> maelstrom doesnt have much power
10:30:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> doesnt indeed
10:30:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think it is sufficient though
10:31:44  <PublicServer> <Mark> aww you made the doombringer slower? :P
10:31:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
10:32:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> 260 for steam is just too much I think
10:32:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> its dark energy :P
10:32:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> :d
10:32:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> perhaps some compromise later
10:34:29  <PublicServer> <Mark> strange how there is so little different between 4k hp and 16k hp
10:34:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> difference
10:34:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> ..
10:34:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> ofc the string is just wrong
10:34:59  <PublicServer> <Mark> oh yea
10:35:02  <PublicServer> <Mark> its 16k and 20k
10:35:06  <PublicServer> <Mark> :)
10:36:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> fixed
10:36:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> :)
10:37:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will probably make another release before we start building, with a nice little bonus for maglev wagons
10:37:20  <PublicServer> <Mark> bonus how?
10:37:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> surprise bonus :)
10:37:36  <PublicServer> <Mark> heh ok
10:37:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> just cosmetic
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11:33:27  <Absolutis> !passwrod
11:33:30  <Absolutis> !password
11:33:30  <PublicServer> Absolutis: gilded
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11:35:10  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hm, no other plans anymore
11:35:41  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> if there's no other plans ~24 h from now, what, you start without voting?
11:36:18  <Mark> possibly
11:36:30  <Mark> pretty sure we'll get some plans though
11:37:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
11:37:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> as Mark said
11:37:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> thanks
11:37:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> :D
11:37:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> holy shit
11:37:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> I just made something totally insane
11:37:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> people will shit their pants
11:38:28  <Mark> wha?
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11:50:05  <Hazzard> Hello
11:50:43  <Tray> !password
11:50:43  <PublicServer> Tray: tights
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11:58:56  <Hazzard> :/
11:58:58  <V453000> excess flood?
11:59:03  <Hazzard> My bad
11:59:16  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG232 (r23974) | STAGE: Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands"
11:59:25  <Hazzard> I though my internet wasn't working
11:59:29  <Hazzard> But aparently it is
11:59:51  <V453000> nice
11:59:52  <V453000> ...
12:00:05  <Mazur> Interesting way of trying to find out....
12:00:16  <V453000> 50 pings in a row
12:00:57  <Mazur> Without proper pauses in between, apparently.
12:00:58  <Hazzard> :|
12:05:45  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
12:07:39  <V453000> !content
12:07:40  <PublicServer> V453000: Connection established
12:07:40  <PublicServer> V453000: Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
12:07:40  <PublicServer> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
12:07:42  <V453000> !content
12:07:44  <PublicServer> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
12:07:46  <PublicServer> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
12:07:46  <PublicServer> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
12:07:49  <V453000> !content
12:07:51  <PublicServer> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
12:07:53  <PublicServer> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
12:07:53  <PublicServer> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
12:07:59  <V453000> I hate this thing as much as it hates me
12:08:01  <V453000> !content
12:08:03  <PublicServer> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
12:08:03  <PublicServer> V453000: Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
12:08:03  <PublicServer> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
12:08:14  <V453000> !restart
12:08:14  <PublicServer> V453000: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
12:08:14  <Mazur> !content
12:08:14  <PublicServer> Mazur: you must be channel op to use !content
12:08:19  <Mazur> Good.
12:09:02  <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
12:09:02  <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r23974.
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12:09:39  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG232 (r23974) | STAGE: Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands"
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12:10:04  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00010AB5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00010AB5.png
12:10:14  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
12:10:27  <V453000> !changepw
12:10:27  <V453000> !auto
12:10:27  <PublicServer> V453000: Password changed to hipper
12:10:27  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode.
12:10:29  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
12:10:35  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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12:10:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> works
12:10:44  <Tray> It's possible to ddos a computer as a single person? o:
12:10:50  <Hazzard> ._.
12:11:49  <Mazur> distributed, yes, if you have hacked enough computers, that's how some crackers used to do it.
12:12:38  <Mazur> And you do not want to know how many virtually unprotected computers are out there.
12:13:11  <Absolutis> hold on a moment
12:13:16  <Mazur> With admins to whom security is about hte blanket they put over the monster in the closet at night.
12:13:19  <Absolutis> switching to xChat
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12:14:21  * Mazur is not holding on,
12:14:36  <Mazur> Wonder what he's going to do about it?
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12:15:47  <Absolutis> hey, back
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12:16:26  <LoPo> hello
12:16:36  <Hazzard> Hi
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12:17:34  <LoPo> !password
12:17:34  <PublicServer> LoPo: hipper
12:17:38  <PublicServer> *** LoPo has left the game (connection lost)
12:17:40  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
12:17:47  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
12:17:47  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
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12:18:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
12:18:32  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi
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12:21:39  <Hazzard> Who actually maintains the bot?
12:22:49  <PublicServer> <LoPo> V453000: is it TL4 or TL2 with 2x GetHeavy
12:22:51  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ?
12:23:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
12:23:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> not like the train is just below the sign :p
12:23:26  <Hazzard> :P
12:23:46  <Mazur> That coud be a decoy.
12:23:58  <PublicServer> <LoPo> 2x TL2 = TL4
12:25:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok, TL8 it is then
12:25:25  <PublicServer> <LoPo> 8?
12:25:35  <PublicServer> <LoPo> now im even more confused
12:27:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> jeez
12:27:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is 2x TL2 Get Heavy sign and just under it is a TL2 train with 2 engines
12:27:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> is it really that unobvious?
12:28:21  <Hazzard> Wait
12:28:31  <Hazzard> What
12:29:15  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes, because; why would you only show 50% of the whole thing?
12:29:34  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but nvm
12:29:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> wha?
12:30:26  <PublicServer> <LoPo> no not "wha"
12:30:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> better?
12:30:32  <PublicServer> <LoPo> there
12:30:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> srsly
12:30:36  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes
12:30:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> big problem
12:30:57  <PublicServer> <LoPo> not realy, but i was just confused
12:31:11  <PublicServer> <LoPo> so its a tl2 game :)
12:31:14  <PublicServer> <LoPo> nice
12:31:28  <PublicServer> <LoPo> and tonnes of hubs ofc :P
12:31:34  <Hazzard> Hold on a moment (especially you Mazur!)
12:31:35  <Hazzard> Brb
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12:31:47  <Mazur> Stll not holding on.
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12:40:54  <Hazzard> !password
12:40:55  <PublicServer> Hazzard: nugget
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12:40:56  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
12:41:20  <LoPo> ill come back when the building has started
12:41:24  <LoPo> see ya
12:44:27  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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12:45:23  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Jesus, every time I enter this game I have to get new NUTS
12:48:32  <V453000> hm :)
12:48:44  <V453000> anyway, I have to reload the game with newtrees newgrf
12:48:49  <V453000> the stolen trees arent on bananas anymore
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12:49:16  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> your plan has 46 hubs V
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12:49:39  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> :D
12:50:01  <V453000> 46? really?
12:50:11  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Including MSHs
12:50:17  <V453000> :>
12:50:22  <V453000> well at least there will be enough to build :p
12:50:27  <V453000> !getsave http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20419525/psg232start6.sav
12:50:28  <PublicServer> V453000: OK :-)
12:50:29  <V453000> !rcon load 2
12:50:35  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
12:50:37  <V453000> !changepw
12:50:37  <PublicServer> V453000: Password changed to waiver
12:50:46  <Hazzard> -12 without
12:50:48  <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (connection lost)
12:50:48  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
12:50:54  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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12:51:06  <V453000> alright there we go
12:51:08  <V453000> !auto
12:51:08  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode.
12:51:11  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
12:51:11  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
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12:51:14  <V453000> !rcon set min_active_clients 2
12:51:14  <PublicServer> V453000: say_client 28 "Welcome Hazzard"
12:51:14  <PublicServer> V453000: say_client 28 "You are playing on \"#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)\""
12:51:14  <PublicServer> V453000: say_client 28 "House rules are at http://ps.openttdcoop.org"
12:51:14  <PublicServer> V453000: say_client 28 "say !help for more information"
12:51:15  <PublicServer> V453000: say_client 28 "---"
12:51:15  <PublicServer> V453000: ‎[Private] To Hazzard: Welcome Hazzard
12:51:17  <PublicServer> V453000: ‎[Private] To Hazzard: You are playing on "#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)"
12:51:17  <PublicServer> V453000: ‎[Private] To Hazzard: House rules are at http://ps.openttdcoop.org
12:51:19  <PublicServer> V453000: ‎[Private] To Hazzard: say !help for more information
12:51:19  <PublicServer> V453000: ‎[Private] To Hazzard: ---
12:52:24  <Hazzard> ._.
12:52:33  <V453000> ignore that :)
12:52:55  <Mazur> I counted 45 hubbies.
12:53:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> nice
12:53:11  <OG> !pw
12:53:15  <OG> !password
12:53:15  <PublicServer> OG: waiver
12:53:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> :p
12:53:53  <Hazzard> !help
12:53:53  <PublicServer> Hazzard: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
12:53:55  <PublicServer> <Player> firs time here :)
12:53:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> name
12:54:05  <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to OG
12:54:19  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Doing a method now huh
12:54:34  <PublicServer> <OG> allsoooPIIIMP
12:54:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> 46
12:54:58  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> ;D
12:55:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> well thats a lot :>
12:55:55  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> They are RL thoug
12:56:01  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> er LR
12:57:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> to start with :p
12:57:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> well if you want to go nutty we could do them LLRR but I think it is nicer to start small
12:58:11  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Yes
12:58:56  <Hazzard> @wiki hubs
12:58:57  <Webster> Hazzard: I didn't find anything for "hubs", but here's the result for "Crazy Hubs":
12:58:58  <Webster> Hazzard: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Crazy_Hubs
12:58:59  <Webster> Hazzard: These are some of the most unique and memorable hubs we've built. However, you shouldn't take them to heart. They may have been ok at the time, but don't attempt to repeat them, they're not here for that. Instead they're here to show our, er, genius (madness anyone?) to everyone. Again, these are not the normal and appear very rarely, but when hubs like these do evolve, we remember them... (1 more message)
12:59:13  <Hazzard> :D
12:59:55  <Hazzard> Best page on the wiki
13:00:17  <V453000> 2005 :>
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13:00:47  <Hazzard> Totally not outdated
13:01:25  <Firestar> !password
13:01:25  <PublicServer> Firestar: primal
13:01:29  <PublicServer> <OG> may i go pax?
13:01:44  <PublicServer> *** Firestar joined the game
13:01:46  <PublicServer> <Firestar> hi all
13:01:57  <Hazzard> Hello!
13:02:15  <PublicServer> <OG> oh, me stupid
13:03:10  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I guess i'll make a plan
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13:06:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> hate amount of hubs? :D
13:06:39  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> :>
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13:08:00  <Maraxus> !password
13:08:00  <PublicServer> Maraxus: primal
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13:11:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> now thats many hubs :p
13:11:22  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Yes
13:14:01  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Hmm, maybe I could do some fancy refit thing
13:14:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> not sure if making a refit station in these hills is reasonable
13:21:41  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> There aren't any new trains in the future, right?
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13:22:52  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Hmm
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13:25:31  <Absolutis> !password
13:25:31  <PublicServer> Absolutis: ranker
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13:39:45  <Tray> !password
13:39:46  <PublicServer> Tray: salter
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13:40:13  <PublicServer> <Tray> Hi there.
13:40:17  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Hello!
13:43:20  <Mazur> Hi here.
13:44:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> ballsy 7 tiles in the mountains
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13:44:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> you should try what CL it actually is bta
13:44:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw
13:44:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think it is CL3 or 4
13:45:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> which is important info
13:45:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> alright there goes
13:45:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> CL3
13:46:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> I recommend writing that in the plan as CL7 looks just awful ;)
13:46:21  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> What
13:46:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> your plan
13:46:34  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> You want a shorter train?
13:46:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> TL7 trains would normally be CL7
13:46:42  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I suppose that makes sense
13:46:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> but they can go in CL3
13:46:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> look at it
13:46:53  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Uhuh
13:47:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is good to show it so people know and dont think it is CL7 as it would look like
13:47:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am going to also write to each engine what CL it has in the purchase menu
13:47:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> but isnt there yet :p
13:53:01  <Tray> I think that a table with speeds - CL columns is preferable because of the timetable thingie
13:53:26  <Tray> Or CL - Rail maxspeed - Erail - mono - maglev ...
13:56:35  <V453000> I will simply add a value to each train so you can see how high CL it has when purchasing it
13:56:38  <V453000> in the purchase menu
14:00:07  <PublicServer> *** bassals has left the game (leaving)
14:00:44  <PublicServer> <Tray> the acceleration of hazards planned trains is bad ):
14:00:56  <bassals> it's a nice info
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14:01:35  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Then help me
14:01:53  <PublicServer> <Tray> more engines
14:02:04  <PublicServer> <Tray> maybe four
14:02:19  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Hmm
14:02:21  <PublicServer> <Tray> it needs ~15 tiles to accelerate
14:02:22  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Okay
14:02:49  <PublicServer> <Tray> It might be okay if everybody knows what he's doing
14:03:01  <PublicServer> <Tray> but to be honest that's not likely (;
14:03:23  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> What who is doing :P?
14:07:49  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Does the curve length vary between the different trains?
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14:13:27  <Firestar> !password
14:13:27  <PublicServer> Firestar: fracas
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14:15:13  <OG> !password
14:15:13  <PublicServer> OG: fracas
14:15:15  <PublicServer> <Tray> Hazzard, Curve Length vary between different speeds
14:15:25  <PublicServer> <Tray> more speed needs longer curves
14:15:41  <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to OG
14:16:04  <Hazzard> Is that specific to the trainset?
14:17:18  <PublicServer> <OG> so no more tl2 :)
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14:17:55  <PublicServer> <Tray> Curve Length only depends on the speed of the trains
14:18:04  <Tray> @wiki max_curve_speed
14:18:05  <Webster> Tray: I didn't find anything for "max_curve_speed", but here's the result for "Basic Junctions":
14:18:06  <Webster> Tray: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Basic_Junctions
14:18:07  <Webster> Tray: << Sideline stations | ^^ Back to Building Guides Index | Mainline Junctions >>
14:18:22  <Tray> Thanks, Webster
14:18:22  <Webster> Okay, but I'm a bot
14:18:24  <Tray> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed
14:18:31  <PublicServer> <OG> xd
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14:25:53  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I tried to make my plan the opposite of V's
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14:37:14  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> 6 engines would yield pretty nice acceleration
14:38:18  <Tray> I think 4 is okay
14:39:05  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> whatever
14:39:11  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> but i'd use 6
14:39:17  <Hazzard> I can change it
14:39:35  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i'm a fan of faster acceleration
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14:41:39  <V453000> well the longer train the less difference a good acceleration makes
14:41:54  <V453000> so 2 engines for TL2 is reasonable but I think 4 for TL7 is just as good
14:42:04  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Why so?
14:42:37  <Mark> !password
14:42:37  <PublicServer> Mark: steels
14:42:45  <V453000> well if two big trains have some gap between them it is much less significant than many small trains having a big gap between them
14:43:09  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> You mean if that gap is the same for the long situation and short situation
14:43:27  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> very brief change of speed for CL3 of Hazzard's train
14:43:37  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> diagonal only
14:44:15  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> interesting
14:44:28  <Mark> trains slow down on diagonal track
14:44:29  <PublicServer> *** Player has joined spectators
14:44:31  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> That didn't happen without the 2 extra enginse
14:44:39  <Mark> !password
14:44:39  <PublicServer> Mark: steels
14:44:42  <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost)
14:44:44  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> that is irrelevant though
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14:44:59  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> as the change is only 7 km/h or so
14:45:12  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> It is still strange
14:45:30  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> openttd is a strange game, my friend
14:45:33  <PublicServer> <Mark> not strange at all
14:45:37  <PublicServer> <Mark> its just because of the CL
14:46:03  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> But the train doesn't change?
14:46:26  <Mark> @clcalc maglev 3
14:46:26  <Webster> Mark: A maglev Curve Length of 3 (5 half tiles) gives a speed of 336km/h or 210mph
14:46:29  <Mark> @clcalc maglev 4
14:46:29  <Webster> Mark: A maglev Curve Length of 4 (7 half tiles) gives a speed of 392km/h or 245mph
14:47:01  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> The TL doesn't change at all, I tink
14:47:19  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> If I ddidn't screw up
14:47:25  <Mark> @clcalc maglev 3
14:47:25  <Webster> Mark: A maglev Curve Length of 3 (5 half tiles) gives a speed of 336km/h or 210mph
14:48:41  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> When there are 5 engines it takes the curve at 401
14:48:49  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> When there are 6 engines it slows down a tiny bit
14:48:55  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Same TL
14:49:05  <PublicServer> <Mark> mind if i test again?
14:49:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> nvm
14:49:34  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> There is nothing wrong with having an odd number of engines, right?
14:49:48  <TWerkhoven[l]> nope
14:49:52  <PublicServer> <Mark> nah
14:50:19  <V453000> !password
14:50:20  <PublicServer> V453000: steels
14:50:28  <PublicServer> <Mark> this map isnt suitable for TL7 at all btw
14:50:28  <PublicServer> <Player> even at stations?
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14:50:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> o/
14:50:37  <PublicServer> <Mark> hello
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14:50:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> whats the problem
14:51:08  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> fff
14:51:18  <PublicServer> <Mark> floods?
14:51:20  <PublicServer> <Mark> thats a new message
14:51:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> not erally
14:51:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> was always there
14:51:29  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Just never happens
14:51:29  <PublicServer> <Mark> it used to just say crash
14:51:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you flood something
14:51:34  <PublicServer> <Mark> oh
14:51:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> really
14:51:40  <PublicServer> <Mark> i think so
14:51:42  <PublicServer> <Mark> not so sure now though
14:51:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think it was flood for years
14:51:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> i used to have disaster messages disabled anyway
14:52:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> well doesnt matter, it floods. :)
14:53:14  <PublicServer> <Mark> hmm
14:53:20  <PublicServer> <Mark> youre right, it does slow down
14:53:20  <PublicServer> <Mark> weird
14:53:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> ah
14:53:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets see somethin
14:53:56  <PublicServer> <Mark> to 394 i think
14:54:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok still does
14:54:32  <V453000> @clcalc maglev 3
14:54:32  <Webster> V453000: A maglev Curve Length of 3 (5 half tiles) gives a speed of 336km/h or 210mph
14:54:44  <PublicServer> <Mark> V453000: with 5 engines, it doesnt
14:54:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats strange
14:55:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm
14:55:55  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> If it is all engines it cant go over 367 or so
14:56:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> really
14:56:35  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> On the circle
14:57:02  <PublicServer> <Mark> train 4
14:57:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> seems limited to 337, which is the max speed for CL3
14:57:46  <PublicServer> <Mark> why can the other one go 401?
14:57:52  <PublicServer> <Mark> weirdness
14:58:12  <Hazzard> I gtg now
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14:59:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is some major wtf
14:59:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> it is
14:59:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> doubt its nuts-related
14:59:39  <PublicServer> <Mark> have there been changes to realistic accel recently?
14:59:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk anything is possible
15:00:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> report it please
15:00:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> did you give the wagons tilt bonus? :P
15:00:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
15:00:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> just checked that
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15:02:38  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 337 straight, 367 slanted.
15:03:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> original trains simply do 337 367
15:03:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> tried 2 engines, 5 and 14
15:05:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm
15:05:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think it is nuts related but I totally have no clue what the hell
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15:06:39  <Mazur> NUTS?  I thought I saw "NewTrains".
15:07:10  <Mazur> Must have been a different list.
15:07:12  <Mazur> :-)
15:07:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
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15:08:20  <Mazur> Forget it.
15:09:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> just wtf
15:09:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont know
15:09:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will ask someone later
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15:10:05  <V453000> cya for now
15:11:44  <Mazur> `\o
15:18:32  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
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15:18:39  <mfb-> hi
15:18:46  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> what about merging steel with another cargo
15:18:47  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> such as coal
15:18:59  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> we don't need that much space for coal drop since it doesn't need a pickup
15:19:16  <mfb-> !password
15:19:17  <PublicServer> mfb-: pantie
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15:19:37  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> with Vs plan
15:19:43  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> oh, he's not online
15:19:56  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> well, i'll just leave a note
15:21:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> woah
15:22:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> 46 hubs :D
15:23:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> steel/paper are both converted to goods
15:23:22  <PublicServer> <mfb> so this station just needs 1 pickup
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15:44:14  <mfb-> !playercount
15:44:14  <PublicServer> mfb-: Number of players: 3 (0 spectators)
15:44:21  <mfb-> !players
15:44:24  <PublicServer> mfb-: Client 97 (Orange) is Mazur, in company 1 (Dog Head Corporation)
15:44:24  <PublicServer> mfb-: Client 89 (Orange) is Mark, in company 1 (Dog Head Corporation)
15:44:24  <PublicServer> mfb-: Client 48 (Orange) is Absolutis, in company 1 (Dog Head Corporation)
15:44:29  <mfb-> oh, the count is right
15:44:45  <Mazur> The Duke is left.
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15:45:25  <mfb-> or wrong?
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15:54:14  <Mazur> The Baron is wrong, the Duke is left.
15:55:02  <TWerkhoven[l]> what does that make the Earl?
15:55:54  <mfb-> center
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16:27:39  <Tray> !password
16:27:39  <PublicServer> Tray: stifle
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16:31:49  <PublicServer> <Tray> hrm the sprites on corners sometimes look wierd
16:31:52  <PublicServer> <Tray> e.g. !here
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16:39:09  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
16:39:15  <PublicServer> <mfb> now the train can go 401 in curves
16:39:17  <PublicServer> <mfb> what changed?
16:44:05  <Mazur> The ptide.
16:44:05  <Mazur> (silent p)
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16:45:33  <Absolutis> the ratio of engines:wagons
16:46:33  <Absolutis> was infinity, now 0.56
16:48:22  <mfb-> that is relevant?
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16:56:45  <Absolutis> yes, strangely
16:57:38  <mfb-> "ok"
16:57:51  <Absolutis> quoting myself : <Absolutis> openttd is a strange game, my friend
16:58:09  <PublicServer> <mfb> there are few games which are not
16:58:52  <PublicServer> <mfb> university heights in the middle of nowhere ;)
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17:00:50  <PublicServer> <Tray> strange thing is: It worked with 5 and 2 engines not with 14 and 4
17:01:12  <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe their position in the train matters?
17:02:04  <PublicServer> <Tray> let's try
17:02:41  <OG> !password
17:02:41  <PublicServer> OG: salons
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17:16:21  <V453000> !password
17:16:21  <PublicServer> V453000: girder
17:16:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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17:38:36  <PublicServer> <Tray> V did you found any clue what's going on with CL and Engines?
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17:39:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> no none at all
17:41:16  <PublicServer> <Tray> for 9 engines it kind of breaks
17:41:32  <PublicServer> <Tray> work as expected for >= 10 engines
17:41:50  <PublicServer> <Tray> for 9 it accelerates to much I think
17:42:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> strange
17:42:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm, do we want to start voting?
17:45:01  <V453000> @stage Planning & Voting
17:45:02  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG232 (r23974) | STAGE: Planning & Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands"
17:45:46  <PublicServer> <Tray> the speed issues depend on the position of the engines as well
17:46:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm :z
17:47:20  <PublicServer> <Tray> maybe something is wrong with your wagoons?
17:47:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> i find that strange
17:48:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> if they slowed where they shouldnt then I would understand that
17:48:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> but when they go faster than they actually should ... wtf
17:48:27  <Maraxus> !password
17:48:28  <PublicServer> Maraxus: barons
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18:06:53  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh
18:07:23  <PublicServer> <mfb> *vote*
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18:13:57  <V453000> !password
18:13:57  <PublicServer> V453000: swivel
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18:14:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> haiooo
18:14:18  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[l]> ola
18:14:20  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
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18:29:00  <Bassals> why isn't XeryusTC's plan in the board?
18:29:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> because i'm still writing it
18:29:18  <Bassals> okay I forgive you
18:33:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think this is about it :o
18:35:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think my plan is done
18:36:13  <PublicServer> <Bassals> does it mean outer: LL; inner RR?
18:36:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no, both LL5RR
18:40:30  <Khol> @quickstart
18:40:31  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
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19:06:37  <PublicServer> <mfb> we have a nuclear weapon testing lake?
19:07:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
19:07:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> I love the meteor crater however
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19:19:50  <Tray> [21:06:37] <+PublicServer> <mfb> we have a nuclear weapon testing lake? --- Sure, do you have another explaination for slugs on maglev that cary cargo?
19:20:39  <mfb-> hmm...
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19:48:45  <Ryton> !password
19:48:46  <PublicServer> Ryton: endows
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19:49:45  <PublicServer> <Ryton> voting phase!
19:50:19  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[l]> so vote already ryton ;)
19:50:45  <PublicServer> <Ryton> got to evaluate the plans first
19:50:55  <PublicServer> <Ryton> I like the one from Xeryus
19:51:05  <PublicServer> <Ryton> KISS = keep it stupidly simple
19:54:52  <mfb-> that is not simple
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19:55:20  <PublicServer> <Ryton> and I stick to it
19:55:46  <PublicServer> <Ryton> I doubht that 46 hubs + SLH's will be usefull :-)
19:55:52  <Khol> !password
19:55:52  <PublicServer> Khol: cruxes
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19:56:27  <PublicServer> <Ryton> or can primaries b connected directly to V's "mainlines"?
19:56:37  <PublicServer> <Ryton> *b = be
19:56:38  <mfb-> something like this
19:56:50  <mfb-> (and SLHs for L_R lines are trivial)
19:57:29  <PublicServer> <Ryton> true, but wont many lines require to be expanded, while others will hardly be used?
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19:57:53  <mfb-> consider these lines as SLs then ;)
19:58:30  <mfb-> secondary goods will take a few ways only
19:58:33  <mfb-> these need expansion
19:58:44  <mfb-> the primaries can use the whole network somehow
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19:59:01  <PublicServer> <Ryton> can, but will they? :-)
19:59:21  <mfb-> you force them by their position somewhere on the map ;)
19:59:25  <PublicServer> <Ryton> e.g. the centre will be stressed a lot more than the sides
20:00:12  <mfb-> I don't think so
20:00:22  <mfb-> the area around goods drop might need several expansions
20:00:36  <mfb-> and some lines near the map border
20:00:40  <PublicServer> <Ryton> it could be interesting in the point I made in the previous game (lower barricade for less skilled players -like myself- to just start building ,-)
20:01:00  <mfb-> many hubs ;)
20:01:06  <PublicServer> <Ryton> oki, probably you are right :-)
20:01:07  <mfb-> many small lines
20:01:26  <PublicServer> <Ryton> you should merge 3-4 of the centre ones into a 4-5way hub  ;-)
20:01:52  <mfb-> hmm
20:02:16  <PublicServer> <Ryton> just a LR line ;-) (at start)
20:02:38  <PublicServer> <Ryton> RL*
20:02:52  <PublicServer> <Ryton> anyway, may the most democratic plan win!
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20:03:04  <PublicServer> <Ryton> I'd love to see it come to life :-)
20:03:11  <PublicServer> *** Ryton has joined spectators
20:04:31  <PublicServer> <Ryton> shopping centre at Lac-des-Arcs is funny
20:04:35  <PublicServer> <Ryton> the perfect holiday resort
20:05:04  <mfb-> http://s14.directupload.net/images/120410/nlo4j7zk.png that is with LL_RR
20:05:24  <PublicServer> <Ryton> still ok :-)
20:05:43  <PublicServer> <Ryton> only 30x30 for a 4way hub ;-)
20:06:05  <PublicServer> <Ryton> nice build btw
20:06:15  <PublicServer> <Ryton> fully balanced!
20:06:27  <mfb-> oh, actually I forgot N->W
20:06:31  <mfb-> one of the lines
20:07:12  <V453000> omg :)
20:07:32  <V453000> but yeah nice
20:07:33  <XeryusTC> nice one :)
20:07:34  <PublicServer> <Ryton> hehe, the easiest connection ;-)
20:07:36  <mfb-> well, it is turning right :p
20:08:22  <TWerkhoven[l]> now imagine upgrading that
20:08:52  <PublicServer> <Ryton> 42x42 I guess
20:08:56  <mfb-> outside :p
20:09:11  <PublicServer> <Ryton> make it metro? ;-)
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20:09:32  <mfb-> or building a bigger hill
20:09:42  <mfb-> to get a 4th layer of tunnels :p
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20:16:31  <PublicServer> <Khol> Sexsmith Rubber Plantation ?
20:18:24  <mfb-> oh oh
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21:20:49  <Chris_Booth> nice hub mfb
21:27:17  <XeryusTC> mfb-: why dont you make a plan to test your hub btw?
21:29:57  <Mark> goodevening folks
21:30:13  <XeryusTC> markus! :0
21:30:15  <Mark> what hub?
21:30:16  <XeryusTC> :)
21:30:19  <Mark> :D
21:30:24  <XeryusTC> <@mfb-> http://s14.directupload.net/images/120410/nlo4j7zk.png that is with LL_RR
21:31:46  <Mark> merging 2 track to 1?
21:32:05  <Mark> missing SW to SE outer track
21:32:05  <Chris_Booth> its a 4 way Mark
21:32:32  <Mark> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/d/d0/Psg173_bbh01.png
21:32:36  <Mark> thats a 4way
21:32:59  <XeryusTC> i had forgotten about that beast
21:33:25  <XeryusTC> it is still sexy though
21:33:28  <XeryusTC> @op Mark
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21:33:49  <XeryusTC> Webster: Y U NO LISTEN
21:33:55  <Mark> hehe :)
21:34:25  <XeryusTC> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/e/e6/SandboxGame16.png
21:35:00  <XeryusTC> note that that hub is from npf times ;)
21:35:12  <Mark> wow thats vintage
21:35:22  <Mark> even Ammler built stuff back then :D
21:35:31  <XeryusTC> yeah
21:36:15  <Mark> we need to do another re-make of an ancient game
21:36:28  <XeryusTC> vote for my plan then :)
21:36:38  <XeryusTC> it is basically like #34 but on a map 4x the area
21:36:47  <Mark> !password
21:36:47  <PublicServer> Mark: queers
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21:37:12  <XeryusTC> actually, it is very simular to #34 now i come to think of it
21:37:24  <XeryusTC> only difference is that the spokes are turned 45 degrees
21:37:26  <Webster> what XeryusTC?
21:37:27  <Mark> also similair to pz05
21:37:47  <Mark> and many other games :P
21:37:53  <Mark> still a good design though
21:37:57  * XeryusTC slaps KenjiE20 
21:38:02  <Chris_Booth> lol
21:38:11  <Chris_Booth> how do you know it was KenjiE20?
21:38:19  <Webster> I was I!
21:38:45  <XeryusTC> pzg5 was full/empty split? :o
21:38:56  <Mark> not really
21:39:02  <Mark> not at all :P
21:39:08  <Mark> similair ML layout though
21:39:16  <XeryusTC> oh
21:39:22  <XeryusTC> all my plans have layouts like these
21:39:28  <XeryusTC> big outer ring with stuff inside
21:39:57  <Webster> Chris_Booth is the best
21:40:32  <XeryusTC> Chris_Booth: because afaik KenjiE20 is the boss of Webster
21:40:44  <XeryusTC> although Ammler and pm probably have access too
21:40:50  <Chris_Booth> anyone can make him talk
21:41:01  <Chris_Booth> unsing @say #channel your things
21:41:10  <XeryusTC> but KenjiE20 quite often responds when you highlight Webster
21:41:17  <XeryusTC> meh :P
21:41:38  <Chris_Booth> and if you didn't guys it was me :P
21:41:44  <Mark> @say #openttdcoop Chris_Booth is a nooooooooob
21:41:44  <Webster> Chris_Booth is a nooooooooob
21:41:48  <Mark> right
21:41:51  <Chris_Booth> lol
21:42:27  <Chris_Booth> hhhm can you make webster @say kban?
21:42:39  <Chris_Booth> if so that is a great way to hack
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21:43:49  <Mark> did he just try that?
21:53:35  <KenjiE20> booth imploded
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21:56:10  <XeryusTC> @say #openttdcoop @kick KenjiE20 welcome back
21:56:26  <KenjiE20> it's not that stupid
21:56:31  <XeryusTC> apparently not :(
21:56:32  <KenjiE20> :p
21:56:45  <TWerkhoven[l]> even if it did say it, it wouldnt listen to itself
21:56:53  <KenjiE20> quite
21:57:00  <XeryusTC> true
21:57:02  <TWerkhoven[l]> as it doesnt see itself having said that
21:57:06  <XeryusTC> but i at least expected it to repeat me
21:57:38  <KenjiE20> @say bork bork
21:57:38  <Webster> bork bork
21:59:47  <XeryusTC> @say woop
21:59:59  <XeryusTC> Webster refuses to listen to me :(
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22:00:12  <XeryusTC> @say woop
22:00:16  <V453000> ignore list :D
22:00:22  <TWerkhoven[l]> hehe
22:00:29  <TWerkhoven[l]> bots are fun to play with
22:00:36  <XeryusTC> :(
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22:04:49  <V453000> !password
22:04:49  <PublicServer> V453000: loosed
22:04:57  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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22:05:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> o/
22:05:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm not much new
22:06:18  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
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22:06:22  <XeryusTC> except from mah plan :P
22:09:03  <V453000> saw that already :p
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23:04:37  <Khol> !password
23:04:37  <PublicServer> Khol: withed
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23:13:09  <PublicServer> <Sylf> llo
23:13:15  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Hi
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