Log for #openttdcoop on 16th April 2012:
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00:09:05  <XeryusTC> Mazur: have you registered on my link in the end btw?
00:09:53  <Mazur> I have put my name and email in, yes, not looked at the email yet.  Dealing with a double login (likely) on stable.
00:10:23  <XeryusTC> ah ok :)
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00:15:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> my gawd, the Gs on deceleration of those planes must be lethal
00:17:05  <KenjiE20> XeryusTC: if you want to know what salem is like, play Haven and Hearth
00:17:35  <XeryusTC> yeah, friends told me it is the same
00:17:54  <KenjiE20> yup, same guy(s)
00:17:59  <XeryusTC> but i cant remember having played haven and hearth
00:18:05  <XeryusTC> even though they say that i have
00:18:22  <KenjiE20> you get eaten by bears, boars, russians and ants
00:18:32  <KenjiE20> sometimes you make a farm
00:18:35  <KenjiE20> :p
00:18:36  <XeryusTC> some sandbox mmo with permadeath
00:18:45  <KenjiE20> yeah
00:21:48  <XeryusTC> sounds like fun
00:21:52  <XeryusTC> plan is to do a let´s play
00:22:00  <XeryusTC> which will probably be my last let´s play ever
00:22:13  <XeryusTC> since i dont actually like watching let´s plays myself :P
00:34:29  <XeryusTC> ! test
00:34:29  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ai=-1
00:34:33  <XeryusTC> !say test
00:35:00  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I've timetabled the planes and synched them again.
00:35:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> \o/
00:35:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ctrl+watching the planes is fun btw :P
00:35:38  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, these are pretty fast.  :-)
00:36:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Gotta wtach out for travel sickness, though.
00:36:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> never mind the Gs when landing ;)
00:36:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 2.5 mach to 500km/h cant be good for you
00:36:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> mach 2.5 even :P
00:37:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Man was not meant to go this fast.
00:37:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, it is not the speed itself which kills
00:37:41  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's what they said of the first cars.
00:37:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just the acceleration
00:37:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or rapid deceleration
00:38:20  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, when I'm eating, don;t take away the celery too fast or I can;t enjoy it.
00:38:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ?
00:39:02  <PublicServer> <Mazur> De-celer-ation.
00:39:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> xD
00:39:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> far fetched
00:39:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> planes on NW SE are out of sync it seems :o
00:39:38  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I gots jme a big reach.
00:39:52  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, they keep doing that.
00:40:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Despite the timetable.
00:40:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> if you timetable you have to reset the late counter after they arive the first time
00:40:20  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I did.
00:41:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, Aircraft 3 is not keeping up.
00:41:52  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'll just restart.
00:41:54  <XeryusTC> oh btw, these planes ¨only¨ do mach 2.1
00:42:16  <planetmaker> mach 2.1 = 2500 km/h?
00:43:14  <XeryusTC> 2575
00:43:22  <XeryusTC> mach 1 = 1225
00:44:03  <planetmaker> for a guestimate without lookup I think I was pretty close :-)
00:45:17  <XeryusTC> yeah :)
00:45:24  <XeryusTC> i estimated the planes to go at mach 2.5
00:45:33  <XeryusTC> mach 1 being about 1000km/h
00:45:44  <XeryusTC> but apparently, mach 1 is the speed of sound in air at 15C
00:46:11  <planetmaker> 1000 km/h is rather about 0.9 mach ;-)
00:46:18  <XeryusTC> yeah
00:46:29  <XeryusTC> i knew only that mach 1 is the speed of sound
00:46:30  <planetmaker> as the planes usually travel at 970 km/h or so
00:46:44  <planetmaker> and they're still a good margin below the sound barrier due to energetic reasons
00:46:45  <XeryusTC> and i know that planes usually travel just below mach 1
00:46:52  <planetmaker> 10%
00:46:54  <planetmaker> :-P
00:47:13  <planetmaker> depending on model, though
00:47:23  <Khol__> !password
00:47:23  <PublicServer> Khol__: instep
00:47:24  <XeryusTC> the air that flows over the wings can go supersonic sometimes though
00:47:52  <planetmaker> which is bad
00:47:59  <planetmaker> it eats fuel like no tomorrow
00:48:16  <XeryusTC> i wouldnt know about that
00:48:17  <planetmaker> it creates vortices
00:48:26  <planetmaker> and vibrations
00:48:30  <XeryusTC> but it happens quite often on jetplanes usually
00:48:38  <XeryusTC> well, it mainly creates shockwaves
00:48:55  <XeryusTC> everything that moves through the air creates vortices
00:49:13  <planetmaker> not quite
00:49:36  <planetmaker> and minimizing their creation is what pays the bill for 50% of the aerospace engineering people
00:51:06  <XeryusTC> true, they mostly get payed to get planes to travel a bit faster savily
00:51:51  <planetmaker> not really faster. A lot goes into less fuel and less sound
00:52:03  <planetmaker> Speed is limited by the sound barrier kinda.
00:52:14  <planetmaker> And thus you want to minimize vortex generation
00:52:22  <Mazur> By money, more like.
00:52:24  <planetmaker> which is the main cause of drag
00:52:31  <XeryusTC> vortex = drag
00:52:35  <planetmaker> exactly
00:52:44  <planetmaker> they suck the energy
00:53:05  <XeryusTC> its why F1 cars are so fiddly with their aerodynamics, to create the vortices in the right place
00:53:11  <XeryusTC> and keep them as small as possible
00:53:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Mazur: no plan?
00:54:20  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, I got a plan.
00:54:27  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not being here too much.
00:54:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> ;-)
00:55:47  <XeryusTC> xD
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00:55:57  <PublicServer> dwarf: piques
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07:21:09  <dwarf> !password
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07:28:53  <dwarf> oh, more and more people
07:31:22  <hylje> yes
07:33:54  <dwarf> do you always wait for 3 plans before voting?
07:36:35  <planetmaker> makes for a better vote
07:37:06  <planetmaker> Always is a strong word and I'm not sure it'll hold for every single map from the past, but it's a very common thing.
07:48:47  <Meechtastic> hi
07:58:03  <dwarf> hi
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08:08:15  <Meechtastic> !password
08:08:15  <PublicServer> Meechtastic: piques
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08:09:32  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hi
08:09:35  <PublicServer> <dwarf> hi
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08:09:44  <PublicServer> <dwarf> do you have a plan?
08:09:50  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> no
08:10:00  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> ive never made a plan before, im a noob
08:10:11  <PublicServer> <dwarf> ahh, me too :D
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08:11:07  <Meechtastic> hi hazzard
08:11:15  <Hazzard> Hooray
08:11:18  <Hazzard> New game :D
08:11:31  <Hazzard> Hey Meechtastica
08:11:33  <Hazzard> !password
08:11:33  <PublicServer> Hazzard: piques
08:12:03  <Hazzard> !download
08:12:03  <PublicServer> Hazzard: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
08:12:03  <PublicServer> Hazzard:
08:12:40  <Hazzard> !info
08:12:40  <PublicServer> Hazzard: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Bloggs & Co.'  Year Founded: 2100  Money: 8745324  Loan: 0  Value: 10046199  (T:1, R:0, P:5, S:0) unprotected
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08:16:43  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Rivers :/
08:19:53  <Meechtastic> do you want me to join so you can make a plan?
08:19:55  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> There are a lot of industries
08:20:07  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Naw, I don't really want to make a plan
08:20:10  <Meechtastic> ok
08:20:14  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> you can make one if you want
08:20:24  <Meechtastic> my plan would be : haul crap xD
08:21:03  <Meechtastic> im a total noob, so i will wait a bit before i make a plan
08:21:24  <dwarf> me too
08:21:35  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Hey, I am a noob too
08:21:38  <dwarf> I don't know what will happen next
08:22:13  <dwarf> how accurately will the planner tell what to bulild where?
08:22:24  <dwarf> assuming his plan wins
08:24:18  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Spam the land with bought land :D
08:24:53  <dwarf> :
08:24:56  <dwarf> :d
08:24:58  <dwarf> :d
08:25:00  <dwarf> :D
08:25:04  <dwarf> caps lock
08:25:22  <dwarf> and can you build new secondary industries?
08:25:27  <Meechtastic> well i think there is give and take with the plan
08:25:46  <Meechtastic> as long as its in the general area , right?
08:27:26  <Meechtastic> i think theres enough secondaries on the map
08:27:47  <Hazzard> I think they are normally funded
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08:39:46  <Hazzard> !ping
08:39:46  <PublicServer> Hazzard: pong
08:42:53  <Meechtastic> !pong
08:43:00  <Meechtastic> =[
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09:04:30  <Absolutis> !dl win32
09:04:30  <PublicServer> Absolutis:
09:04:33  <Absolutis> !players
09:04:35  <PublicServer> Absolutis: Client 165 is Hazzard, a spectator
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10:37:30  <Tray> !password
10:37:30  <PublicServer> Tray: fusses
10:37:52  <Tray> !dl win32
10:37:52  <PublicServer> Tray:
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10:41:53  <V453000> !password
10:41:55  <PublicServer> V453000: fusses
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10:41:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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10:49:38  <Ammler> does someone know a public dns service, which I can use like but without monthly activation?
10:50:19  <CornishPasty> Ammler:
10:50:21  <Webster> Title: FreeDNS - Free DNS - Dynamic DNS - Static DNS subdomain and domain hosting (at
10:50:24  <Maraxus> !password
10:50:24  <PublicServer> Maraxus: brewed
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10:50:40  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
10:54:09  <Meechtastic> !password
10:54:09  <PublicServer> Meechtastic: brewed
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10:57:33  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> ingame gamenr != irc gamenr?
10:58:00  <V453000> !gamenr 233
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11:12:57  <Bassals> did you find any new features in this nightly?
11:13:01  <PublicServer> <Tray> I would like to see some nutty s-bahn.
11:13:23  <PublicServer> <Tray> but I ain't here for the next week anyway ):
11:14:57  <Absolutis> !password
11:14:57  <PublicServer> Absolutis: depots
11:15:15  <Absolutis> hmh, 233?
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11:16:21  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yet another NUTS game?
11:16:28  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> :|
11:16:34  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> not saying i dislike it
11:16:35  <Hazzard> :D
11:16:50  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> but i prefer some variety in trainsets
11:17:49  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh, superstrong trains?
11:18:26  <Hazzard> Superstrong?
11:18:32  <Tray> Superstrong.
11:20:00  <Hazzard> Like, how superstrong?
11:20:08  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> supa dupa strong
11:20:18  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> the strongest one is stronger than the get heavy
11:20:30  <Hazzard> Like how supa dupa strong
11:20:36  <PublicServer> <bassals> it's 1 tile long
11:20:42  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> 25k while the GH is 20k
11:20:44  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yeah
11:21:23  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> so when equal lenght 25k and 40k respectively
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11:22:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> does NE-SW really need 3 planes? :o
11:23:09  <Hazzard> I want another bonus train with stupidly high HP and stupidly low Speed
11:24:06  <Tray> I like superstrong. 1 engine upto TL 10 with acceptable acceleration and CL 2 (:
11:26:00  <Hazzard> Yes.
11:26:00  <Hazzard> That would be awesome
11:28:45  <Hazzard> !ping
11:28:45  <PublicServer> Hazzard: pong
11:29:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: no plan? :o
11:29:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> im ok with yours
11:30:21  <Hazzard> !players
11:30:21  <PublicServer> Hazzard: Client 199 (Orange) is bassals, in company 1 (Bloggs & Co.)
11:30:21  <PublicServer> Hazzard: Client 201 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (Bloggs & Co.)
11:30:21  <PublicServer> Hazzard: Client 217 (Orange) is Absolutis, in company 1 (Bloggs & Co.)
11:30:21  <PublicServer> Hazzard: Client 219 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (Bloggs & Co.)
11:30:21  <PublicServer> Hazzard: Client 210 is Big Meech, a spectator
11:32:06  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
11:32:24  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> doesn't speed demon + express wagon look kind of... odd?
11:34:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i need a plan to challenge mine :o
11:34:15  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i'm making one.
11:34:16  <hylje> maglev locomotive and brake wagon
11:34:19  <hylje> do it
11:34:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D
11:34:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> +1
11:34:49  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> too bad there's no brake wagons in NUTS...
11:34:53  <hylje> it makes sense because magnets
11:35:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> how do magnets work?
11:35:24  <hylje> very quickly
11:35:32  <hylje> that's why maglev is fast
11:35:34  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> :P
11:35:40  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> true
11:35:48  <Hazzard> Why would maglev trains have engines?
11:35:54  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> maglev is fast because there is no friction
11:35:57  <Hazzard> Don't the tracks propel the train?
11:37:21  <planetmaker> that depends on how you build it
11:37:27  <CornishPasty> Don't maglev trains have magnets in them that disturb the magnetic force of the track, causing it to move in a direction?
11:37:52  <planetmaker> oh, "disturb the magnetic force" :D
11:38:06  <CornishPasty> :>
11:38:14  <planetmaker> sorry, but I had a good laugh
11:38:21  <CornishPasty> I know, partially intentional ;P
11:38:48  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
11:38:55  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> you know what would be cool?
11:39:02  <planetmaker> yeah... and... makes it sound 100% wrong :-P
11:39:06  <Hazzard> This calls for some deep
11:39:07  <Hazzard> wikipedia research
11:39:08  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> that similar loop to previous game
11:39:14  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> with different speed trains
11:39:29  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> synced to use the same time traveling
11:40:19  <CornishPasty> planetmaker: technicalities...
11:40:56  <planetmaker> realities?
11:41:03  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hehe
11:48:22  <Hazzard>
11:48:23  <Webster> Title: Vactrain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at
11:48:26  <Hazzard> I want that in OpenTTD
11:48:56  <V453000> it is there already
11:48:56  <V453000> useless newgrf if you ask me
11:49:17  <Absolutis>
11:49:41  <Absolutis> is that vactrainy enough, Hazzard?
11:50:28  <XeryusTC> would be fun to have mach 5 trains in OTTD :P
11:50:31  <Hazzard> No.
11:50:42  <Hazzard> Bridges still screw it up
11:50:53  <XeryusTC> use tunnels
11:52:10  <Hazzard> How would you cross a lake?
11:52:31  <XeryusTC> landbridge
11:53:33  <Hazzard> But the poor lake
11:53:41  <hylje> trains that arrive before they leave
11:53:48  <XeryusTC> /care
11:53:55  <XeryusTC> you should look at our old games
11:53:59  <XeryusTC> tunnels were default
11:54:06  <XeryusTC> just like landbridges
11:54:08  <XeryusTC> and high tf
11:54:10  <hylje> tunnels are unwieldy as fuck
11:54:23  <hylje> magic bridges were a godsend
11:54:23  <XeryusTC> trains almost never had to climb hills
11:54:32  <Hazzard> tf?
11:54:34  <Hazzard> oh
11:54:36  <XeryusTC> terraform
11:54:36  <hylje> and when they had, they climbed one level at a time
11:54:36  <Hazzard> Terraforming
11:54:56  <XeryusTC> before magic bridges tunnels were more flexible
11:54:58  <Hazzard> Did realistic acceleration exist?
11:55:03  <XeryusTC> yes
11:55:09  <XeryusTC> but it was different back then
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11:57:25  <PublicServer> <bassals> Absolutis: I guess your plan includes separated sbahns for each city?
11:57:26  <Hazzard> Vactrains would make a good successor to Maglev
11:57:34  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yes
11:57:41  <XeryusTC> they are maglev
11:57:50  <XeryusTC> but without the air resistance that you would get outside the tube
11:57:56  <Hazzard> I know
11:58:01  <XeryusTC> or the sonic boom
11:58:06  <Hazzard> I mean in OpenTTD
11:58:28  <PublicServer> <bassals> any rules for them, like are buses allowed or  mandatory trains?
11:58:46  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
11:58:52  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> possibly trams
11:59:18  <PublicServer> <bassals> I cannot see any trams
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12:00:56  <XeryusTC> hmm
12:01:05  <XeryusTC> i just loaded a game from before i made those massive entries
12:01:08  <XeryusTC> good fun :P
12:01:42  <XeryusTC> and before we fully balanced all bbhs :P
12:02:21  <Hazzard> What massive entries?
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12:03:40  <XeryusTC> rofl
12:04:13  <Absolutis> what?
12:04:43  <XeryusTC> this game has the following signs next to the plan: ¨some rules:¨, ¨XeryusTC is a pro¨, ¨Don´t trust Ihmemies, he´s a sign spammer!¨ and ¨Ichi´s God of sucker. Worship him! :P¨
12:04:54  <XeryusTC> and it has some proper art
12:04:56  <Absolutis> what game?
12:04:59  <XeryusTC> someone made a peace symbol
12:05:25  <Hazzard> Sounds like something firestar would enjoy
12:05:51  <XeryusTC> it was in a game from more than 5 years ago
12:06:06  <Absolutis> 2007?
12:08:05  <Absolutis> heh
12:08:12  <Absolutis>
12:08:25  <Absolutis> even i got a computer better than that
12:09:57  <XeryusTC> we still run on that server
12:10:03  <XeryusTC> dont know if it is still the same hardware though
12:11:17  <hylje> it doesn't matter too much because the lowest common denominator of the player clients defines the performance
12:11:20  <XeryusTC> Absolutis: pax?
12:11:24  <Absolutis> pax
12:11:59  <Absolutis> ...
12:12:07  <Hazzard> hylje: What does that mean?
12:12:15  <Absolutis> it's been 2 years since V wrote the first ABR
12:12:25  <hylje> Hazzard: the worst computer in the game slows down the game (or drops almost instantly)
12:12:35  <XeryusTC> hylje: nowadays the slowest computer drops
12:12:35  <Hazzard> drops?
12:12:49  <hylje> can't stay connected
12:13:00  <XeryusTC> if one person is too slow to handle the game he lags because the game doesnt get the time to render in between ticks
12:13:06  <Hazzard> Wouldn't that just kick everyone one by one?
12:13:06  <XeryusTC> if it gets too bad he lags behind and drops
12:13:21  <hylje> Hazzard: yes as the game becomes more complex
12:13:54  <XeryusTC> some people have a better pc than the server though
12:14:03  <Hazzard> Doesn't "the slowest computer drops" mean that anyone that doesn't keep up with the server drops
12:14:29  <XeryusTC> yes
12:14:32  <XeryusTC> if they are too slow
12:14:34  <hylje> yep, so we can't increase game complexity to top out the server's performance
12:14:39  <XeryusTC> otherwise they´ll experience lag
12:14:40  <hylje> because it becomes unplayable
12:14:53  <Hazzard> Like me :(
12:15:30  <XeryusTC> back in ye olde brianetta days we couldnt run more than 500 trains
12:15:37  <XeryusTC> or the server would puke and die
12:15:57  <XeryusTC> brian´s server suffered quite a lot because of us :P
12:16:59  <Hazzard> I'm going to vote on whichever plan uses the fewest trains
12:17:12  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hard to tell
12:17:58  <Hazzard> > TL = < Trains
12:18:19  <Hazzard> Also, maybe Pax usese less trains?
12:18:23  <Absolutis> more
12:18:26  <Absolutis> definitely more
12:18:26  <XeryusTC> also depends on capacity
12:18:36  <XeryusTC> pax uses a lot
12:18:44  <Hazzard> :/
12:18:45  <XeryusTC> sbahn gets an insane amount of trains
12:18:48  <XeryusTC> and order complexity
12:20:40  <Hazzard> Is it easy to make newGRF stations?
12:22:08  <XeryusTC> yes
12:22:18  <XeryusTC> although if you want more complex stuff it becomes quite hard
12:22:30  <Hazzard> Like the cargo-dependant stuff?
12:22:48  <XeryusTC> yes
12:23:01  <XeryusTC> although i never got to fool around with that
12:24:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk I havent really came to anything truly hard in NML
12:24:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure if you dont know how to do something it takes a while to find the functions in the documentation, but once you find it it is quite easy
12:24:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> at least vehicles were so far
12:24:46  <XeryusTC> must be easier in NML than in NFO
12:24:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> for sure
12:24:57  <XeryusTC> the modern train station set that i coded is buggy as hell :P
12:24:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> NML at least makes sense when you read it
12:25:07  <Hazzard> What is NML?
12:25:29  <V453000> the language
12:25:33  <V453000> newgrf meta language
12:26:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyway there goes another plan
12:27:31  <Hazzard> XeryusTC: Link?
12:27:39  <XeryusTC> to?
12:27:54  <Hazzard> the modern train station set that i coded
12:28:53  <XeryusTC>
12:28:54  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - Red*Stars modern train station set [beta released] (at
12:29:11  <Hazzard> Red Star?
12:29:24  <V453000> the look of the stations is cute, but I hate how the sizes of them are unflexible
12:29:59  <Hazzard> Sexy stations
12:30:12  <XeryusTC> they are a bit unwieldy, yes :P
12:30:24  <V453000> remembering each layout ... not really
12:30:31  <sietse> !dl
12:30:31  <PublicServer> sietse: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
12:30:31  <PublicServer> sietse:
12:30:35  <V453000> I rather like to make my own stations from pieces
12:30:39  <sietse> !dl lin
12:30:39  <PublicServer> sietse:
12:30:42  <V453000> like ISR, japanese stations etc
12:31:01  <XeryusTC> they are more like the US stations than newstations ;)
12:31:32  <V453000> well w/e :) not too usable
12:31:35  <Hazzard> So what was buggy about the station?
12:32:25  <Hazzard> wait, brb
12:32:36  <XeryusTC> they dont always build correctly
12:32:41  <XeryusTC> and graphics are sometimes glitchy
12:33:14  <V453000> and you have to try about 10000 times until you figure out how to build them :D
12:33:21  <V453000> or have the readme open :d
12:33:41  <XeryusTC> i know them all by heart
12:34:04  <XeryusTC> berlin hbf is 4x6 or larger in the 6 direction :P
12:34:29  <XeryusTC> racoon city is 8 tiles long and at least 2 wide
12:34:35  <XeryusTC> and then plazas on both sides :P
12:36:02  <XeryusTC> but you can take hints from the number selectors for the size
12:36:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk I havent tried too much, just once. As I said, I like to make my own stations from pieces
12:36:50  <sietse> !password
12:36:50  <PublicServer> sietse: deluxe
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12:37:44  <PublicServer> <Sietse> heya
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12:38:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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12:41:35  <Hazzard> Ehrm
12:41:37  <Hazzard> Back
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12:43:16  <Hazzard> So what was buggy about the stations?
12:43:16  <Hazzard> !password
12:43:16  <PublicServer> Hazzard: deluxe
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12:44:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> why are we using the ugliest airplane ever? :D
12:44:52  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Rainbowwww
12:45:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok a bit better in blue
12:48:20  <Hazzard> XeryusTC: What was buggy about the station?
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12:48:54  <XeryusTC> just play with the set a while
12:49:01  <XeryusTC> you´ll start to notice glitches etc
12:49:14  <XeryusTC> stuff that doesnt work exactly like advertised in the readme
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12:51:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> why the note about SL depots XeryusTC? there shouldnt be any accessible depots at all
12:51:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> Any of your service centers is exception and shouldnt even be mentioned imo
12:52:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> and it isnt just the SL, but any other line than the main ML
12:53:37  <Hazzard> What are the service centers for?
12:54:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> only for selling trains
12:54:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> or eventually sending a bunch of trains into the depot temporarily when you rebuild something major, but that isnt necessary
12:55:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> and in most games things are just upgraded, not destroyed and rebuilt
12:57:43  <XeryusTC> and service centers are for upgrading, if needed
12:58:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> we never ever do that
12:58:58  <XeryusTC> i know
12:59:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> and upgrading with service centers is rather bad
12:59:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> the depots behind reversers or terminus stations is much better
12:59:21  <XeryusTC> but if we start a game in 1920 and have quick voting we do :P
12:59:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes but that is ... kind of rare :P
12:59:48  <XeryusTC> service centers allow for everything upgrading at once and not mixing speeds for 10 years on the network :P
13:00:16  <XeryusTC> it was quite common in ye olde games :P
13:00:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> depends on situation but mostly different speeds by a little bit are much smaller problem than having a massive jam and many lost trains
13:01:06  <XeryusTC> if trains are lost because of a service center than there is something really wrong with the network
13:01:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> not really
13:01:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> trains willingly go through a roro station just because there is a depot somewhere behind it
13:01:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> to autoreplace
13:02:02  <XeryusTC> lost = not being able to find a route to the destination, going through a station not in the order list is not lost
13:02:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> they go through station in the order list
13:02:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> if there is depot behind it
13:02:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> instead of visiting the station first
13:02:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> and then they have to go to the station again of course
13:02:52  <XeryusTC> that is just game mechanics
13:02:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
13:03:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> but it makes mess
13:03:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> while terminus stations make it safe
13:03:33  <XeryusTC> trains with different speeds on the network also make a mess
13:03:37  <XeryusTC> i dont see your problem
13:03:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyway, the best way to autoreplace is terminus refit :P you 1. make sure trains dont get lost, and 2. you make sure that every train replaces after it does 1 round of trip
13:04:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> not that much, and definitely better a few slowdowns than lost trains
13:04:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you have 30 trains suddenly turning around at some station just because they like a depot on the ML behind it, it will make massive problems
13:05:08  <XeryusTC> not really
13:05:13  <XeryusTC> trains just need a detour to get back
13:05:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
13:05:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> and they are likely to jam at that detour because the station also has some trains loading
13:06:51  <XeryusTC> :/
13:06:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> and well, not even a service center makes all trains replace instantly, it doesnt take much shorter than when you want every train to make a full trip
13:07:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> so you still mix train speeds for quite a while
13:07:13  <XeryusTC> then terminii are also jamming because they have a lower capacity than roro
13:07:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> not at all
13:07:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> the lost trains wont go to try to turn around in the terminus at all
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13:07:37  <XeryusTC> it is about as relevant as trains jamming because trains wait in a station
13:07:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> and that terminus has low capacity is a myth
13:07:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> no it isnt when the lost trains wont go there
13:08:37  <Mark> hello
13:08:42  <V453000> hi
13:09:04  <Mark> !password
13:09:04  <PublicServer> Mark: manged
13:09:12  <XeryusTC> hey Mark
13:09:14  <Mark> !dl win32
13:09:14  <PublicServer> Mark:
13:09:16  <Mark> hiya :)
13:09:29  <XeryusTC> those trains are still not lost btw, it is a detour
13:09:31  <Mark> how'd last game end?
13:09:44  <XeryusTC> with a sizzle
13:09:59  <Mark> hehe
13:10:29  <V453000> but how would they get to a detour when they have terminus stations which prevent them from getting lost
13:10:57  <Absolutis> !password
13:10:57  <PublicServer> Absolutis: manged
13:10:57  <XeryusTC> terminus stations preventing them getting lost?
13:11:10  <V453000> with autoreplacing, sure
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13:11:19  <XeryusTC> i dont know what world you live in, but in mine terminus stations make trains lost while roros dont
13:11:28  <XeryusTC> as terminus dont allow the PF to search for a path through them
13:11:33  <V453000> yes exactly
13:11:37  <V453000> so if you put a depot behind it
13:11:39  <V453000> they wont screw up
13:11:48  <V453000> -> safe autoreplacing
13:11:57  <XeryusTC> that makes trains lost if they happen to get on the way to a terminus that they dont belong on
13:11:58  <planetmaker> or put the station explicitly into orders...
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13:12:17  <V453000> why would they ever get to a terminus they dont belong to
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13:12:31  <V453000> when they cant screw up while autoreplacing
13:12:32  <XeryusTC> because they got on the wrong track somehow?
13:12:36  <V453000> somehow?
13:12:48  <XeryusTC> that was a rhetorical question :P
13:12:56  <V453000> no, they just dont. :)
13:12:56  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
13:13:15  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> what about starting voting
13:13:17  <V453000> you can even for example make all drop stations roro while primary pickups are terminus
13:13:33  <V453000> which is probably the best way to do it, put autoreplace depots behind primary stations
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13:14:08  <XeryusTC> i prefer to put service centers just on the ML
13:14:19  <XeryusTC> if they happen to come across the SC then they´ll visit it
13:14:36  <XeryusTC> only if you give them the order they´ll move out of the way
13:14:39  <V453000> yes, but they also will visit it when they dont have any SC before the drop
13:14:59  <V453000> and when you hit the autoreplace button, some  sure will
13:15:40  <XeryusTC> only if it is near their route
13:15:50  <V453000> unfortunately not
13:15:56  <V453000> that thing works real weird
13:16:13  <XeryusTC> only if you order them to visit a depot they will go out of their way
13:16:25  <XeryusTC> openttd only looks x tiles away for a depot to visit
13:16:30  <V453000> anyway, I dont say using a SC for autoreplacing is completely horrible, but the hidden depot method is just 100% safe
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13:17:10  <Mazur> V453000 and hidden depots sitrting in the tree,...
13:17:16  <planetmaker> what's the "hidden depot method"?
13:17:35  <XeryusTC> depots behind a terminus or turn around track
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13:18:21  <V453000> you put depots only behind terminus stations or reversers. Typically only behind primary pickups which are all made terminus
13:18:33  <XeryusTC> but anyway, to get back to the original point, i added the signs to the message board because lately people have been adding visible depots on sidelines without care
13:18:56  <V453000> alright ... I would just extend that point to say just "no accessible depots"
13:19:08  <V453000> you can still build a SC as an exception from that "rule"
13:19:24  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> V453000: Does your train compactor still work?
13:19:30  <V453000> Hazzard: which one?
13:19:31  <XeryusTC> agreed :)
13:19:34  <planetmaker> simply "no accessible depots except SC"
13:19:41  <Hazzard>
13:19:44  <Hazzard> There is another?
13:20:02  <V453000> oh that
13:20:14  <V453000> sure it works, but it is not too efficient
13:20:25  <V453000> it makes a huge signal gap so normal waiting bays are faster
13:20:43  <V453000> and if you make the bays CL1 they can still be fit somewhere to not take up much space
13:21:16  <V453000> @stage Planning & Voting
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13:24:21  <PublicServer> <Mark> XeryusTC: you should probably put your station's exits/entries the other way around
13:24:28  <PublicServer> <Mark> that way you wont have join before split
13:24:40  <XeryusTC> hmm
13:24:46  <XeryusTC> someone else actually made those signals xD
13:25:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> done :p
13:25:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> :)
13:25:10  <PublicServer> <Mark> cool
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13:26:14  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I don't like any of these plans :
13:26:16  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> :/
13:26:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> make a better one :P
13:26:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> why not?
13:27:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> people hate downhills? :(
13:27:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
13:27:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we only want to reach the top
13:28:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> maybe it is just that your plan is more like what i'd suggest and my plan is more like what Mark would suggest :P
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13:28:27  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> How about we build aqueducts from mountain to mountain
13:28:38  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> abd transport cargo between the mountains :D
13:29:52  <Hazzard> Genious, right?
13:32:17  <Hazzard> yeah, im not too sure about it either
13:33:00  <XeryusTC> @wiki members
13:33:02  <Webster> XeryusTC: I didn't find anything for "members", but here's the result for "Community:Members":
13:33:03  <Webster> XeryusTC:
13:33:04  <Webster> XeryusTC: Note:  * Admins have shell access to our servers, all others have rcon access
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13:35:05  <planetmaker> Ha, Mazur *is* around
13:35:20  <planetmaker> or not?
13:36:01  <Mazur> He is.
13:36:10  <LoPo> hi
13:36:17  <Mazur> He heard his name being dropped frmo a great height.
13:37:11  <Hazzard> CharcoalDioxide!
13:37:37  <LoPo> !password
13:37:37  <PublicServer> LoPo: neater
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13:38:13  <XeryusTC> oh btw
13:38:28  <XeryusTC> i have a small announcement
13:38:36  <planetmaker> right... @nicks
13:38:44  <planetmaker> Folks, welcome all...
13:38:46  <planetmaker> @op Mazur
13:38:47  *** Webster sets mode: +o Mazur
13:38:54  <planetmaker> our newest member to #openttdcoop
13:38:57  <XeryusTC> Mazur is now an official member :D
13:39:08  <XeryusTC> but, to do this
13:39:11  <LoPo> wow nice and gratz Mazur
13:39:13  <Mazur> KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!!!
13:39:18  <XeryusTC> we have to dismember V453000
13:39:20  <Mazur> s/ZOD/MAZUR/
13:39:22  <V453000> @deop
13:39:22  *** Webster sets mode: -o V453000
13:39:33  <XeryusTC> he is still a member, he just has to sacrifice an arm :P
13:39:36  <LoPo> lol?
13:39:40  <LoPo> why
13:39:51  <Mazur> Because he hates me.
13:39:52  <XeryusTC> newton´s 3rd law
13:39:58  <LoPo> oky
13:40:04  <XeryusTC> anyway, welcome mazur
13:40:09  <Mazur> Or I hate him, egg/chicken.
13:40:12  <Mazur> Thank you.
13:41:12  <Hazzard> Party!
13:41:38  <Mark> BEER
13:41:47  <V453000> @op
13:41:47  *** Webster sets mode: +o V453000
13:41:50  <Hazzard> :D
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13:44:42  <Webster> 1 new tweet(s): openttdcoop New post: New member: Mazur, 55 seconds ago via #openttdcoop Blog. (191884592683290626)
13:46:08  <Absolutis> grats maz
13:46:10  <Webster> Latest update from blog: New member: Mazur <>
13:46:36  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
13:46:50  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> maybe i should try a BBH after the voting is done...
13:47:02  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :)
13:48:37  <V453000> @stage Building
13:48:37  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG232 (r24119) | STAGE: Building | | New players, use @quickstart and !help |"
13:48:38  <V453000> there we go
13:48:53  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> :)
13:49:04  <V453000> XeryusTC: go do stuff :)
13:49:10  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> What the just happened
13:49:17  <Maraxus> !password
13:49:17  <PublicServer> Maraxus: tulips
13:49:25  <Absolutis> XeryusTC: High TF?
13:49:28  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> You guys didn't let me vote :(
13:49:35  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Now imma go cry
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13:49:39  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> :P
13:49:45  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
13:51:34  <Tray> !password
13:51:34  <PublicServer> Tray: tulips
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13:52:47  <PublicServer> <Sietse> voting in half an hour?
13:53:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> enough votes
13:53:23  <PublicServer> <Mark> oh quickie
13:54:05  <PublicServer> <Mark> XeryusTC: wanna mark out some hubs?
13:54:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> I do build ze town drop
13:54:54  <PublicServer> <Mark> keep the rings like 30 tiles from the edge
13:55:00  <PublicServer> <Mark> makes expansion easier
13:55:02  <PublicServer> <Mark> they'll get massive
13:56:44  <PublicServer> <LoPo> you think the ring size at NW is ok?
13:56:56  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> There goes that mountain
13:57:18  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I would wait for XeryusTC
13:57:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> X is slow :P
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13:59:40  <PublicServer> <bassals> eh?
13:59:46  <PublicServer> <bassals> building already?
14:00:14  <Absolutis> !gap 3 6
14:00:14  <PublicServer> Absolutis: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 3 and gap 6.
14:04:21  <XeryusTC> oh, plan done
14:04:29  <XeryusTC> i need to brush my hair and brush my teeth
14:04:42  <PublicServer> <Mark> you got too much hair
14:05:04  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Mark: are you bald?
14:05:20  <PublicServer> <Mark> no but i dont need to brush it :P
14:05:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> neither
14:05:38  <PublicServer> <Mark> these hubs are way easy
14:05:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> uhm who is messing with my station
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14:08:15  <Firestar> hi all
14:08:18  <Firestar> !password
14:08:18  <PublicServer> Firestar: patted
14:08:19  <PublicServer> <Mark> hello
14:08:23  <PublicServer> <bassals> hello
14:08:25  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
14:08:31  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Hey
14:08:37  <Firestar> how are things going?
14:08:43  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi
14:08:45  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
14:08:51  <Hazzard> Mazur has been promoted :D
14:09:19  <Firestar> !password
14:09:19  <PublicServer> Firestar: patted
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14:09:35  <Mazur> Demoted, you mean.
14:09:45  <PublicServer> <Mark> your life is over
14:10:09  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Mazur: whatever, same thing
14:10:20  <Mazur> Trued dat.
14:10:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> back
14:10:40  <PublicServer> <Firestar> hi XeryusTC
14:10:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm
14:10:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i might've misjudged the distances :P
14:11:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> didnt think that the rings would come this close to the edge :o
14:11:13  <PublicServer> <bassals> will be allowed to build SLH in the rings?
14:11:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ofcourse
14:11:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> rings are fine imo
14:11:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and on the LLxRR too
14:11:33  <PublicServer> <Mark> not too close anyway
14:11:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but rings need at least two SLHs, one for between the MSHs and one out
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14:14:29  <PublicServer> <Mark> ima do a xeryus style station :P
14:14:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> \o/
14:15:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> slh1 done :D
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14:18:26  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> What the
14:18:28  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Is that
14:18:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> what?
14:18:40  <PublicServer> <Firestar> where?
14:18:46  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Nvm
14:19:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> who is digging at my site?
14:20:03  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> What is that thing
14:20:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> which thing?
14:20:15  <PublicServer> <Firestar> where is your site?
14:20:18  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> That mountain
14:20:20  <PublicServer> <LoPo> where?
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14:20:51  <Rhamphoryncus> Who's on first?
14:21:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> first?
14:22:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> hows that for XeryusTC-style? :P
14:22:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> randomness :D
14:22:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm
14:22:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> nice :)
14:23:04  <Absolutis> my first BBH IIRC
14:23:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you never build a bbh before?
14:23:21  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yeah
14:23:39  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i think i've been kind of "afraid" of it
14:23:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fortunately BBHs in this game are simple
14:23:47  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yeah
14:23:53  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> good game to build your first one
14:24:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> BBHs are though if you never build one before
14:24:10  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> meh
14:24:20  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i've built many SLHs and some MSHs
14:24:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> 3 way ones are
14:24:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, not in this game
14:24:38  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> in this game they are nothing more but a bit more complex ones
14:25:01  <Tray> I don't really see the difference bewteen a MSH and a BBH \:
14:25:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> there often is none
14:25:13  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Yes
14:25:19  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> MSHs connect the ML to a MS
14:25:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> only when stations dont need a connection to a certain direction
14:25:29  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> BBHs connect a ML to a ML
14:25:31  <PublicServer> <Mark> meaning they're not all-to-all as BBHs are
14:25:47  <Tray> So what? Mainstationslines are mainlines.
14:25:59  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> technically
14:26:05  <PublicServer> <Mark> not if they only have traffic from a station going in one direction
14:26:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> if you know what i mean
14:26:21  <PublicServer> <Mark> ie goods trains only going to the town drop, not the other way
14:26:37  <Tray> and empty goods train simply vanish?
14:26:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> well no
14:26:57  <PublicServer> <Mark> but they'd go the same direction aswell
14:27:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> look !here
14:28:02  <PublicServer> <Mark> traffic from the town drop only goes to the factory
14:28:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> so it doesnt need the connection the other way
14:28:19  <PublicServer> <Mark> in this case it differs from a BBH
14:28:30  <PublicServer> <Tray> Well I got ya point, there are edge cases but as a rule of thumb it's good to say that there is no difference
14:28:40  <PublicServer> <Mark> yep
14:28:46  <PublicServer> <Mark> except for longer prios, maybe
14:29:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> back in ye olde days we named MSHs BBHs too :P
14:29:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> yea
14:29:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i have been saying ye olde a lot today
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14:29:36  <Hazzard> D:
14:29:38  <Hazzard> !password
14:29:38  <PublicServer> Hazzard: shoals
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14:31:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: just noticed, but your drop is kind of close to the ring :o
14:32:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> shouldnt be a real problem though
14:32:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> enough space I think
14:32:50  <PublicServer> <LoPo> the "MSH" are not realy hubs so mush smaller
14:32:56  <PublicServer> <LoPo> much*
14:35:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> o_O
14:35:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> tf that is
14:35:18  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> where?
14:35:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> left corner is 30 from edge why should this be 60
14:35:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> especially when the station is closer
14:35:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> who is building the ML near my station?
14:35:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i am on one side
14:36:08  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the one in the west
14:36:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont think we have to keep the ring 100% square
14:36:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i quickly measured out the ring btw
14:36:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no we dont
14:36:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you can move it if you want
14:36:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am rather surprised about teh south :D
14:37:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is 144 tiles from the other side
14:37:05  <PublicServer> <Firestar> oh that was me though
14:37:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> I know it was you
14:37:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> which had been moved by Absolutis to build the hub
14:37:37  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yeah, a bit
14:37:47  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> that was just a so good spot to build one
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14:40:01  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
14:40:16  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> TF to the rescue
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14:41:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> uhm
14:41:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> whoever is building the south ML, it is LL5RR
14:41:23  <PublicServer> <Tray> There are two BBH 045(:
14:41:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i know
14:41:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'm renumbering them
14:42:26  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> there
14:42:32  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> BBH 05 done
14:42:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bbh numbering makes sense now :P
14:42:50  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> just BBH 06 and were done with BBHs
14:48:25  <PublicServer> <LoPo> wtf @ bbh 07
14:48:47  <PublicServer> <Tray> Absolutis, I think that your balancer at BBH05 is quite useless because that line is already balanced by BBH06
14:49:01  <PublicServer> <Tray> What's the problem about BBHß7?
14:49:16  <PublicServer> <LoPo> cls
14:49:22  <PublicServer> <LoPo> weird connection
14:49:32  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> That will go away
14:49:46  <PublicServer> <Mark> might take 200 years
14:49:54  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> It is at 18
14:50:04  <PublicServer> <Tray> industry die after 5 years?
14:52:04  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> The non prioritiezed lines are the ones that get choices, right?
14:52:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> yea
14:52:33  <PublicServer> <LoPo> Mazur: there is nothing wrong with the lines at BBH 06
14:52:43  <PublicServer> <LoPo> its a splitted line
14:52:57  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I think it is fine
14:53:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> should really be doubled
14:53:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> We'll see, anyway.
14:53:29  <PublicServer> <LoPo> why does it needs doubling?
14:53:44  <PublicServer> <LoPo> there is a bridge infront of it
14:53:46  <PublicServer> <Tray> Induszrtry at BBH 07 gone, thanks for conmplaining.
14:53:56  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> :P
14:53:58  <PublicServer> <LoPo> which splits the traffic
14:54:02  <PublicServer> <Mazur> If lots of trains from the Main Station need to exit via BBH05.
14:54:28  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Hmm
14:54:30  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> That is a good point
14:54:37  <PublicServer> <LoPo> it doesnt make sence to me
14:54:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> But what about sense?
14:54:58  <PublicServer> <LoPo> sense i mean... :P
14:55:27  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Some trains from the livestock drops's goods will go that way
14:55:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, it is possible to create big slhs on this map
14:56:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you just need to make them 3 way :P
14:56:37  <PublicServer> <Mark> LoPo: there will also be trains heading for the other stations on that ml
14:56:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> not just town + iron trains
14:56:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> LoPo: Suppose a million ore mines happen to be in the north, then the empties will return vie BBH05, using both ring lines, one of your bridges is a half-balancer, only the other one is proper ML.  And so both the bridges and the tunnles need to be double for the ring line.
14:56:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> its as much ML as the connection is
14:56:55  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I gtg now
14:56:57  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
14:56:59  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> See you guys later
14:57:01  <PublicServer> <Mark> cya
14:57:11  <PublicServer> <Firestar> cya
14:57:14  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu
14:57:20  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bye,Haz.
14:57:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> cya
14:57:32  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i doubt 9 platforms will be enough for pickup/drop at Ring 1
14:57:46  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> :3
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15:00:53  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> Hrisey is going to have to cope with a bit smaller pop
15:01:11  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> *le tree trick*
15:02:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> build a couple of SLHs :D
15:04:21  <PublicServer> <Mazur> How's the accel of our trains?
15:04:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ~10 tiles
15:04:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> no wonders but good
15:05:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> So 7 tile prio?  8?
15:05:38  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
15:06:00  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> stupid steelmill
15:06:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Mark: grain ready yet?
15:06:10  <PublicServer> <Mark> yep
15:06:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> bring it on
15:06:32  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
15:07:10  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> is flattening the lake excessive TF for the LS + ST pick?
15:07:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> ask again after looking at iron ore drop
15:07:38  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
15:07:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D
15:08:04  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> no argument there
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15:09:12  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
15:09:46  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i'd like to do the pickup to go towards the drop
15:10:36  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> but that requires either some TF or sacrificing a few platforms
15:10:38  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> TF it is
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15:12:16  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
15:12:34  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> that entry is probably fine for the pickup
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15:12:41  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> but the exit...
15:12:59  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i think i should separate the lines a little
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15:15:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> XeryusTC: wrong station
15:16:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol :D
15:16:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> fixed :)
15:16:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ty
15:16:31  <PublicServer> <Mark> ah fuck
15:16:38  <PublicServer> <Mark> refinery has to be close to edge of map
15:16:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bbh4 has quite some missing signals
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15:17:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> pickup would be too far away :o
15:17:46  <PublicServer> <Mark> yes
15:17:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> we can override that limit with a newgrf
15:18:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> so you could place it anywhere you want
15:18:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> that'd be nice
15:19:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will add it when I finish this shit
15:20:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> stuff going from slh02 to the factory will take a pretty long detour
15:20:37  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yeah.
15:21:39  <PublicServer> <Mark> 2 full loops around that ring
15:21:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah well
15:21:54  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we'll just have to take that with the one way ness :P
15:22:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but it needs to change to right hand drive
15:23:45  <Mazur> @gap 4
15:23:45  <Webster> Mazur: For Trainlength of 4: <= 10 needs 2, 11 - 16 needs 3, 17 - 22 needs 4.
15:24:33  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i think signalling is done for the LS + ST area
15:24:36  <PublicServer> <Tray> Ring 1 Pickup looks bad ):
15:24:47  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> it'll do
15:25:01  <PublicServer> <Firestar> for now
15:25:16  <PublicServer> <Firestar> the exit needs to go the other way
15:25:30  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> no problem
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15:25:40  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> *le U-turn
15:25:42  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> *
15:26:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok my station is complete
15:26:50  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> if someone wants to build the merger so that full trains don't have to take a detour at ring 1, go ahead
15:27:08  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> that doesnt make any problems
15:27:59  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
15:28:09  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> looks like Husavik is in the way
15:28:11  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> good night residents
15:30:14  <Firestar> bit afk
15:30:44  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
15:31:07  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> next to skogar is probably distand enough for LS and ST factory
15:31:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> wow holy shit
15:31:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> interesting goods pickup entrance Abso
15:31:38  <PublicServer> <Mark> :P
15:31:40  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> can be improved later
15:31:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure but .. :D
15:31:52  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> wth, why not improve it now
15:32:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wood hasnt been build yet :s
15:32:59  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
15:33:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont look at me
15:37:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm :D not putting train head on each end? :(
15:37:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no
15:37:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i want some variety
15:37:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> variety is the spice of life
15:38:04  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
15:38:14  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> the goods/steel trains look kind of... odd...
15:38:16  <PublicServer> <Tray> The prio at Ringone Pickupoverflow is broken, I think. Trains will ignore the red combo when they use pbs
15:38:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> omg Absolutis
15:38:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> 1. visible depot. 2. overflow depot without waiting bay
15:38:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> cant be any worse dude
15:39:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> and btw the PBS station entrance wont work with  an overflow
15:39:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> perhaps with some pf trap but I wouldnt rely on that
15:40:25  <Firestar> back
15:40:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> the wood station could use some braking space btw
15:41:57  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> *le tree trick*
15:42:28  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> *le overusage of *le something**
15:42:38  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> how much braking space is enough? 1 TL?
15:42:40  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Again with the mind-reading!  I was only _looking_ at the option, mr. Inspector!
15:42:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> 1 TL is 100% safe
15:42:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> 3 tiles for that station would probably be enough
15:43:32  <PublicServer> <Tray> Is it possible to change town rating via grf? Might be usefull to get rid of it. Though it's not a big deal
15:43:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> probably not, dont know
15:44:10  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
15:44:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> train yard done
15:44:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> except from the orders
15:44:28  <PublicServer> <Absolutis>  ring 3 not done or...
15:44:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'm off to dinner now
15:44:56  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh, the trains still look odd, indicator of destination/source?
15:45:20  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> or chain?
15:46:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mark going to spam us with RVs?
15:46:12  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
15:46:18  <PublicServer> <Mark> no just a few
15:46:32  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> coal should be loco - 3x wagon - loco - 3x wagon
15:46:44  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> not loco- 6x wagon -loco
15:46:54  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> idk though
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15:47:00  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> but that would seem logical to me
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15:47:44  <PublicServer> <Tray> There is no Oil-wells-don't-decrease grf loaded and close to zero water: oil drop is pretty much useless, isn't it?
15:47:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> grain goes there
15:47:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> but yes
15:48:04  <Firestar> !password
15:48:04  <PublicServer> Firestar: mentor
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15:48:15  <sietse> !dl lin
15:48:15  <PublicServer> sietse:
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15:49:09  <PublicServer> <Tray> maybe add that oilwell grf when adding the oil refinery grf? Or ignore oil at all?
15:49:12  <sietse> !password
15:49:12  <PublicServer> sietse: proses
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15:49:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk I guess XeryusTC is aware that there will be almost no oil
15:49:37  <PublicServer> <Sietse> hello
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15:49:39  <PublicServer> <Firestar> hi
15:50:17  <PublicServer> <Sietse> first trains running already :)
15:50:34  <Absolutis> yup
15:50:46  <Absolutis> pretty accurately, 2 hours from building starting
15:50:53  <Absolutis> boy that went quick
15:51:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mark? :(
15:52:02  <Meechtastic> O_o
15:52:23  <Meechtastic> we demand more oil
15:52:34  <Meechtastic> I will steal olive oyl
15:53:07  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> too bad the coop air only flies inside the place
15:53:14  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> region*
15:54:25  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hello, im back
15:54:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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15:54:31  <PublicServer> <Firestar> hi
15:55:09  <PublicServer> <LoPo> want help with the station Maraxus
15:55:09  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ?
15:55:17  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> sure
15:55:31  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> created dummy stations for wood and coal
15:56:05  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
15:56:16  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> coal and wood drops don't necessarily need to be separate
15:56:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> it shouldnt be either
15:56:40  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> if you don't want eyecandy
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15:58:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> back
15:59:06  <PublicServer> <Firestar> wb
15:59:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you can mix eyecandy
16:00:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: seriously, wtf is that depot
16:01:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, I thought after the large discussion, that we might needs invisible depots behind terminus primeries.
16:01:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is accessible, it doesnt even work properly with block signals, and why not make a proper inaccessible injection depot
16:01:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
16:01:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> the behind is this
16:01:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> which is only for autoreplacing
16:01:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> -> not needed here
16:02:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> well you could build one for each station for killing trains
16:02:33  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
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16:04:03  <dwarf> !stat
16:04:21  <dwarf> !help
16:04:21  <PublicServer> dwarf:
16:04:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Anny Way, dinner time.
16:04:57  <dwarf> !playercount
16:04:57  <PublicServer> dwarf: Number of players: 9 (1 spectators)
16:05:07  <PublicServer> *** Mazur has joined spectators
16:05:23  <dwarf> !password
16:05:23  <PublicServer> dwarf: chintz
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16:07:07  <PublicServer> <Sietse> Maraxus: I think you are building towards the wrong side :(
16:07:33  <PublicServer> <LoPo> omg wtf :P
16:07:51  <PublicServer> <Firestar> yeah youre building towards BBH 08
16:08:29  <PublicServer> <Firestar> but you can always make a U-Turn
16:08:33  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> anything wrong with detours?
16:10:47  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> check varmahlid iron ore/wood
16:10:53  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> cramped much?
16:13:07  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Absolutis: there are closer hubs to Varmahlíð
16:13:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> like SLH1
16:13:23  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yeah
16:13:33  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> but that would require a u-turn
16:13:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or turning the station 90 degrees
16:13:57  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> still
16:14:05  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> at the SLH end
16:14:11  <PublicServer> <Firestar> orders in the train yard done
16:14:41  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> nice, drop done
16:14:48  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> can we send trains to C/W drop
16:15:24  <PublicServer> <Firestar> i`ve made the orders already for the last trains too in the Train Yard
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16:20:55  <V453000> laters
16:21:02  <PublicServer> <Firestar> cu
16:21:04  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu
16:21:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> cya
16:25:33  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> whoops
16:27:19  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hm, nice
16:27:29  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> steel is "packets" of steel
16:27:51  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh, what is that livestock
16:28:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> prepackaged
16:28:07  <PublicServer> <Firestar> tanks of livestock
16:28:45  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh, is that supposed to be bacon chips floating in water or something?
16:28:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ask V
16:29:21  <PublicServer> <Firestar> train 43 went through station
16:29:59  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
16:30:10  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> was it forced through the other station?
16:30:12  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> the goods pickup
16:30:44  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> since that splitter could do that
16:31:59  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> time for food - bbl
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16:32:25  <Meechtastic> why are you guys building without me?
16:32:35  <Meechtastic> !password
16:32:36  <PublicServer> Meechtastic: doored
16:32:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> because you're late?
16:32:47  <Meechtastic> =P
16:32:49  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> because we can.
16:32:54  <Meechtastic> =[
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16:32:55  <PublicServer> <Firestar> cause we want
16:32:59  <Meechtastic> =[[
16:33:09  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hi
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16:33:56  <PublicServer> <Firestar> cya later
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16:35:42  <PublicServer> <Sietse> Just found that the whole coal/wood drop is join before split
16:36:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol
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16:36:17  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> anything is join before split on a loop
16:36:33  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> with enough trains everything can form a ring jam
16:36:48  <Chris_Booth> lol @ Absolutis
16:36:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> except that we have some start and end point on these loops
16:37:23  <V453000> OMG Absolutis
16:37:25  <V453000> fish of course
16:37:32  <Absolutis> !fish
16:37:32  <PublicServer> Absolutis: Today's fish is ... where is it? "NEMO?"
16:37:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and with that logic only point to point isnt jbs
16:37:58  <Absolutis> okay, i spoke before thinking.
16:38:02  <Absolutis> Point taken.
16:39:24  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hmh
16:39:54  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> V, you still there?
16:40:07  <Chris_Booth> no he has died
16:40:14  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> :P
16:40:40  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> Hello Chris
16:40:52  <Chris_Booth> Hi Small Meech
16:42:05  <Chris_Booth> stupid autoupdate died!
16:42:40  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> maybe it does not like you =P
16:42:53  <Chris_Booth> nothing likes me, but it must learn to live with me :P
16:43:56  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> =P
16:44:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we need more SLHs
16:45:13  <PublicServer> <Absolutis> yeah
16:46:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, someone building trains for me? :D
16:46:52  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> yep
16:46:58  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> jsut the depot
16:46:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> nice :)
16:47:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh
16:47:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> could you build the trains too?
16:47:13  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> yep
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16:47:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> fucking finally
16:47:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i can squeeze out some more SLHs then
16:47:55  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> does it matter wichh one i clone ?
16:47:59  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> for wood ?
16:48:46  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> oh, I see how its done in the dialog window =D
16:48:53  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hello Chris
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16:56:16  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just a question (don't kill me), but are we ever going to play without NUTS?
16:56:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
16:56:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but not in the coming 4 years
16:56:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> boring
16:56:53  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> I'm playing without nuts right now
16:57:07  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> g/f got ne neutered
16:57:17  <PublicServer> <LoPo> there :) i think wood goods pickup is done
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16:57:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Big Meech: we know you are single
16:57:37  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> =P
16:57:43  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> who told?
16:57:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you
16:57:54  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> damn, knew i couldnt trust him
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16:59:39  <V453000> !password
16:59:39  <PublicServer> V453000: lucked
16:59:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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17:00:01  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> xeryus is that you near slh 10?
17:00:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
17:00:11  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> I will add the coal trains
17:00:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ok
17:02:00  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> good work
17:05:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> time to build the next SLH :D
17:06:11  <PublicServer> <dwarf> I'll build one near Bolungravik
17:06:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> cool :)
17:07:08  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> anyone need help building?
17:07:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> near SLH 11 :P
17:07:37  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> roro at the wood ?
17:07:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah
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17:10:06  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> done, I mean, sorry about team chat
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17:11:28  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> heh, sorry abt that ;)
17:11:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no problem
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17:11:49  <nicfer> !password
17:11:49  <PublicServer> nicfer: refuge
17:11:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> time to kill some planes
17:11:52  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> were yo ugoing to try to get the coal wit hthat slh ?
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17:12:07  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hi nicfer
17:12:11  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> hi
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17:16:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol, somone shared the iron ore template's orders :D
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17:16:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fixed now
17:17:42  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> might have been me, i do silly things sometimes
17:18:04  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> where can I work on?
17:18:26  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hi Mazur
17:19:56  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> can probably build anywhere, Nicfer
17:20:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> dwarf: add a space in front of hub names next time
17:20:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> makes them sort to the top of the sign list
17:20:38  <PublicServer> <dwarf> ok
17:20:48  <PublicServer> * XeryusTC kicks absolutis in the balls
17:20:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> read the message board next time
17:21:05  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lol
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17:21:23  <nicfer> !password
17:21:23  <PublicServer> nicfer: beamed
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17:21:38  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> wb
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17:22:29  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> I want to copy my hotkeys from my stable installation
17:22:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just copy the file over
17:23:06  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> I copied it but when I restarted the game it just 'rollbacked'
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17:23:47  <nicfer> !password
17:23:47  <PublicServer> nicfer: beamed
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17:24:10  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> yay it works now
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17:27:45  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, hi Beach.
17:27:56  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hai =P
17:28:46  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> ill let you connect that
17:28:52  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D
17:28:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> THey did horrible things with a sward to me, did you hear?  Dismembered me almost.
17:29:16  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> sward?
17:29:22  <PublicServer> <Mazur> sword
17:29:29  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> should be more careful next time
17:29:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that was V
17:29:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> he was almost dismembered
17:29:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, it was something with members, anyway.
17:30:10  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lol,o h membership =P
17:30:45  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> only clubs i never got kicked out of, were the ones i started xD
17:30:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, they're really scraping the bottom of hte barrel now.
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17:31:05  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lol
17:31:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no one has ever been kicked out of coop
17:31:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not even thergo
17:31:41  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I think I never got kicked out of anything, really, I'd have to think hard.
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17:32:01  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> bbiab
17:33:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: we need more SLHs
17:33:52  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i have build all but 4 so far
17:34:30  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Point me to an easy one.
17:34:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> really?
17:35:21  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You don;t like SLH06?  That's ok, neither do I, but it works.
17:35:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it's missing a connection
17:35:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see !here
17:38:15  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm looking but not seeing anything missing.
17:38:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> someone just fixed it :P
17:38:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, really???
17:38:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sneaky.
17:38:57  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I woner who that was....
17:39:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> dunno
17:39:39  <PublicServer> <Mazur> But thanks forthte heads up.
17:40:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Someone would surely not have fixed it if he'd not been alerted to it.
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17:43:08  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> V is very quiet
17:43:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Plotting against us.
17:44:09  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> oh my
17:44:19  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> Congrats Maz, I can read ^_^
17:44:29  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Thanks.
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17:45:02  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> anyone need help ?
17:45:16  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I think.  It may turn out commiseration or condolences would have been more appropriate.
17:45:22  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> LMAO
17:45:28  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> someone die?
17:45:28  <PublicServer> <Mazur> SLHs
17:45:28  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> xD
17:45:50  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> yes, but im not very good at building those yet
17:46:12  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Each ring needs 2 or 3 inward, one on the corner and one on eiter side of that, and the connecting lines each need one or two outwards.
17:46:42  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> ah yes, I know the jist of it, just suck at building them,  i dont leave enough room to start
17:46:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, these SLHs arent that hard
17:46:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just a split and a join
17:47:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> check SLH 16 for smallness :)
17:47:19  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> usually do that with the tablesaw ;)
17:47:35  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> ah, yes
17:49:20  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> actually
17:49:36  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> can you give me a lane to the other wood ?
17:53:02  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> TF isn't allowed?
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17:53:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we still dont have oil btw
17:53:12  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> TF is allowed
17:53:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> some people are just scared of it
17:53:28  <PublicServer> * Spike gets bulldozer out...
17:53:30  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> Im scared of everything
17:54:06  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Don;t worry, it'll fade.  I speak from experience.
17:54:20  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> I am also afraid of americans ;)
17:54:35  <PublicServer> <Spike> so.... now that you're a member you're experienced Mazur? ;)
17:54:59  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Nope.  Happily and totally inexperienced, and quite resiged to remain so.
17:55:05  <PublicServer> <Spike> :D
17:55:08  <PublicServer> <Mazur> resigned
17:55:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> resigned?
17:55:28  <PublicServer> <Mazur> being complacent
17:55:32  <^Spike^> everybody has his/her... do we even have a her around here.. oh well his/her strong points :)
17:55:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> happy, at peace with
17:56:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> well quite honestly you spend so much time here already that it is a shame to be resigned
17:57:04  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> is SLH17 good?
17:57:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, maybe I inadvertently learn things.
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17:57:30  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Or occasionally intentionally.
17:57:32  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> looks good nicfer
17:57:42  <nicfer> !password
17:57:42  <PublicServer> nicfer: sentry
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17:58:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we can drop oil now
17:58:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> as long as you copy the train yard
17:58:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or add transfer orders yourself
17:59:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> needs goods for refinery :)
17:59:27  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Copy without sharing, of course, the trainyard should be unshared.
17:59:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You share only within a primary.
17:59:45  <PublicServer> <dwarf> wouldn't it be easier just to fund a refinery?
18:00:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i did that
18:00:08  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> they just have a max distance
18:00:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> you know we could override that distance with a newgrf
18:00:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i know
18:00:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> also, glad to see you're awake
18:00:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:01:03  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> wasn't pbs unallowed here?
18:01:17  <PublicServer> <Mazur> He is awake?  I thought he did this in his sleep?
18:01:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> not really
18:01:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is usually just frowned upon
18:01:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Discouraged, nicfer, but there are times they are the best, of not only, option.
18:04:41  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, and please sign your stations.
18:07:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Build a SC
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18:15:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> Big Meech: the / signs are one / not //
18:16:05  <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> jam at steel pickup
18:16:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> someone spammed steel trains I assume
18:16:30  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And no underflow.
18:19:08  <PublicServer> <Mazur> There are plenty of unsigned primaries.
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18:19:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that's usually me
18:19:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Including HveragerðiNorth with the ungrouped trains?
18:20:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
18:20:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fixed
18:21:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fuck
18:21:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> grain drop produces grain :s
18:21:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> nice
18:21:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That whole setup is weird, are you testing something there?
18:22:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no, it's just that we cant build a refinery close enough
18:22:09  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, I see.
18:22:36  <PublicServer> <LoPo> steel & LS goods pickup is also jamming
18:22:42  <PublicServer> <LoPo> the overflow doesnt work
18:22:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
18:22:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> told him
18:23:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> for now
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18:26:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> so that's why we have so many trains already
18:26:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there's quite a lot of them hidden in depots
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18:28:19  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> define quite a lot
18:28:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> all 10 or so that i just deleted :P
18:32:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> oooh I seee now
18:32:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> fucking steel mill
18:33:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> new one appeared ofc
18:33:08  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol
18:34:00  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Any logic builder wnt to check my !roundabout stopper?
18:34:26  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Faily sure it's good.
18:34:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> should work
18:35:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Good, those trains going in circles through the depot were giving me the jeebies.
18:35:34  <PublicServer> <LoPo> omg
18:35:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> \o/
18:37:45  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> anyone need help?
18:37:50  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> mental or ottd is ok
18:37:53  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> tell me where xD
18:38:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> tell me whore?
18:38:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> or?
18:38:15  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> no, thats later tonight
18:38:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> aww
18:38:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will wait then
18:38:22  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> 10 dollar special
18:38:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf :(
18:38:35  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lol
18:38:57  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lots of hookers in detroit
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18:39:13  <mfb-> hi
18:39:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> ellow
18:39:18  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hello
18:39:24  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
18:39:39  <PublicServer> <Mazur> lo, mufby.
18:39:49  <PublicServer> <dwarf> I think we could save a lot of train running time and congestion at the stations if we made the inner corners of the loops two-way
18:39:59  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Btw, I finished Steel & LS Drop.
18:40:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> the running time doesnt hurt dwarf
18:40:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fixed wood to be split before join
18:40:30  <mfb-> !password
18:40:30  <PublicServer> mfb-: gropes
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18:40:46  <PublicServer> <mfb> we have an aircraft newgrf loaded?
18:40:50  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lol
18:40:56  <PublicServer> <dwarf> is it fixed payment or what?
18:41:06  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> have enough steel mills near faskruosfjorour heights?
18:41:17  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> at !steel
18:41:21  <mfb-> !gamenr
18:41:21  <PublicServer> mfb-: This is game number: 233
18:41:27  <PublicServer> <Mazur> OH!  NO! Not Detroit!!
18:41:33  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> yes, Detoilet
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18:42:11  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That was another quote in hte category: "Name that film."
18:42:17  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh no, not rings again
18:42:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> again?
18:42:37  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> why are livestock, fish ?
18:42:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> One ring to rule them all, and in the darkness bind them.
18:42:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> interesting arrangement
18:43:17  <PublicServer> <mfb> CW is shorter than CCW
18:43:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> (as global structure)
18:44:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> added some goods and steel trains
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18:44:40  <LoPo> see ya
18:44:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bye.
18:44:55  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu
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18:45:02  <PublicServer> * Mazur is off, as well.
18:45:04  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> laydurr
18:45:08  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bye.
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18:46:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> cya both
18:46:30  <PublicServer> <mfb> cu
18:52:47  <PublicServer> <dwarf> gtg
18:52:53  <PublicServer> <dwarf> bye
18:52:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> see you
18:52:58  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu
18:53:00  <PublicServer> <mfb> cu
18:53:02  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> seeya
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18:53:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> cya
18:54:05  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, CL3
18:54:26  <mfb-> why that?
18:54:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> tilt
18:54:35  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah ok
18:55:21  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> oh hai ;)
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18:55:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> xD
18:55:28  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> im buiding with you
18:55:36  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> again
18:55:38  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> =D
18:55:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, i kind of started building here
18:55:54  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> you did
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18:56:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> because i saw that nothing had been connected to my slh yet
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18:56:17  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> mmhmm
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18:58:56  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hi 5
18:59:30  <PublicServer> <mfb> wtf empty livestock tankers :D
18:59:36  <PublicServer> <mfb> train 109
18:59:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm?
18:59:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> whats wrong with it
19:00:03  <PublicServer> <mfb> looks odd
19:00:13  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> I like giant fishbowls on livestock trailers
19:00:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> those stations might need more platforms
19:00:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> making one feels just wrong
19:01:08  <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe just because you are not used to it. no idea who built that
19:01:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> dunno either
19:03:33  <PublicServer> <mfb> 97% steel transported :)
19:05:39  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> I want 100% steel transported or else
19:05:57  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> I will cut you
19:06:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> then I want your whoring for free
19:06:23  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> im sure there are some that will do it for free
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19:09:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok Xeryus can rage now
19:09:47  <mfb-> ?
19:09:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> steel pickup has overflow
19:09:53  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
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19:10:07  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i was wondering what you were doing there :P
19:10:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> no more excessive train count jams :)
19:10:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm nice
19:10:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we have a jam anyway
19:10:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> ooh
19:10:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> 3rd needed?
19:11:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no
19:11:12  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you forgot to place signals
19:11:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> lol
19:11:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> :>
19:11:30  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> blame poor V
19:11:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> nicfer placed too many signals in slh17 chooser :s
19:12:34  <PublicServer> <mfb> twoways :(
19:14:08  <PublicServer> <mfb> ring 3 -> ML merge jams
19:14:26  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> we need better mixing there
19:14:40  <PublicServer> <mfb> lol
19:14:47  <PublicServer> <mfb> no, we need a connection to the other ML at all
19:14:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bbh5/6?
19:15:12  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> theres a lack of traffic on that other rail though
19:15:22  <PublicServer> <mfb> all the traffic went to one ML
19:15:32  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> i understand that but
19:15:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> mixed, and both mixed lines joined the same ML
19:15:44  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> most of the coal wood drop is funneling into the left lane
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19:15:53  <Firestar> !password
19:15:53  <PublicServer> Firestar: avider
19:16:09  <PublicServer> <mfb> I think that just had a worse probability to join the ML
19:16:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
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19:16:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> and if not, that is an issue at the station
19:16:38  <PublicServer> <mfb> or even the ML before it
19:16:45  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> do you see the traffic at the drop?
19:16:48  <PublicServer> <mfb> +english
19:18:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
19:19:12  <PublicServer> <mfb> coal trains from SLH19 do not reach full speed before they leave the ML again
19:19:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
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19:19:29  <PublicServer> <Firestar> why is at grain oil goods pickup GRAIN waiting?
19:19:44  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> wroing orders?
19:19:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> because there is a farm there
19:20:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> someone had to make a loading grain train there
19:20:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> we could even reconstruct the station, just one group of orders to be changed
19:20:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> drop has the same problem currently
19:20:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'm just waiting for the farm to die
19:20:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
19:20:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> omg
19:21:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> it wont die
19:21:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is serviced
19:21:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> will have to apply magix
19:21:27  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lol
19:21:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there should be no trains picking up
19:21:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure but the station is still accepting it
19:21:46  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> i can haz uze magick bulldoza?
19:21:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> still serviced
19:21:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> since one train apparently tried to
19:22:25  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> only way to stop it is remove station or catchment
19:23:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> build a second SC btw :P
19:24:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> one that is a bit better placed
19:24:08  <PublicServer> <mfb> SC?
19:24:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> service centre
19:25:10  <PublicServer> <Firestar> could someone raise the max for trains?
19:25:16  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no
19:25:24  <PublicServer> <mfb> that is impossible
19:25:26  <XeryusTC> !rcon set max_trains 750
19:25:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> indeed
19:25:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> <- got 501 :p
19:26:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> TL4 looks weird on the map now :o
19:26:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> after having seen trains half the size
19:27:00  <PublicServer> <mfb> ;)
19:27:18  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we had TL2?
19:27:24  <PublicServer> <Firestar> yup
19:27:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
19:27:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why have we got TL4 now?
19:27:52  <PublicServer> <mfb> last PSG
19:27:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> oh
19:28:18  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I am a dumb dumb
19:28:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> missing signals in bbh8 xD
19:29:08  <Mark> !password
19:29:08  <PublicServer> Mark: unhook
19:29:19  <PublicServer> <Mark> howdy
19:29:19  <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game
19:29:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hey mark
19:29:40  <PublicServer> <Firestar> hi
19:29:42  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
19:29:56  <PublicServer> <Mark> thats gone pretty quick
19:30:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> mfb: you placed Bolungarvík heights the wrong way around
19:30:45  <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined spectators
19:30:50  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
19:31:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it was 90 degrees turned
19:31:11  <PublicServer> <mfb> what?
19:32:09  <PublicServer> * mfb is confused
19:33:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why are steel platoforms so long?
19:34:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> candy
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19:34:49  <Ryton> !password
19:34:49  <PublicServer> Ryton: hanger
19:35:23  <Ryton> !password
19:35:23  <PublicServer> Ryton: hanger
19:36:02  <Ryton> !password
19:36:02  <PublicServer> Ryton: hanger
19:36:12  <Ryton> better :p
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19:37:18  <PublicServer> <Ryton> lol, deja vue networkplan :D
19:37:24  <PublicServer> <mfb> ;)
19:37:28  <PublicServer> <Ryton> but it was fun last time (with TTT maglev) :-)
19:37:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> last time i remember we played anything like this was 2006 or 2007 :o
19:38:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol?
19:38:37  <mfb->
19:38:39  <PublicServer> <Firestar> ?
19:38:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> 220 or 211
19:38:54  <mfb-> 211 too
19:39:14  <mfb-> 211 was with 4 rings and spokes
19:39:37  <mfb-> TL2, and all rings CW or CCW iirc
19:39:59  <PublicServer> <Ryton> yes, thats the one i mean, ty mfb
19:40:09  <PublicServer> <Ryton> thats about 14-15 montsh ago?
19:40:13  <PublicServer> <Ryton> or less?
19:40:23  <PublicServer> <mfb> PSG199 was december 2010
19:42:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> any how peeps I am off now
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19:45:39  <PublicServer> <mfb> interesting transfer service at oil :D
19:46:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> oil ref cant be too far from the edge
19:46:23  <PublicServer> <Mark> i wouldve gone with a teleport for transfering
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19:47:05  <mfb-> I would have built the station closer to the map edge
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19:47:31  <PublicServer> <Mark> obviously didnt think of that
19:47:34  <PublicServer> <Mark> move it if you like
19:49:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
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19:50:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol
19:50:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we've got a conga line :D
19:51:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> aka jam
19:51:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see MSH 4
19:52:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, evil double bridge ;)
19:52:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm now the MSH blocked too
19:52:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah, msh is the cause
19:52:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or the high traffic
19:53:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> the merger has quite bad gaps I thikn
19:53:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> yeah
19:53:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah i know
19:53:56  <PublicServer> <mfb> let's try that
19:54:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> named the MSHs btw
19:54:36  <PublicServer> <Mark> that ML is about full i'd say
19:54:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont think steel needs MSH naming
19:55:12  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> /care
19:55:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it leads to a main station :P
19:55:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure but it is just a split and station exit
19:57:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes, but it splits and enters the ML :P
19:57:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and for consistency
19:57:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> w/e
19:57:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> it'll get bigger
19:58:05  <PublicServer> <Mark> and become a major construction
19:58:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> so naming is probably good
19:58:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> it will but it will keep the idea
19:58:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but first ring 3 needs an extra lane
19:58:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> do we have to call rings by numbers and not by industries?
19:58:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> kinda hard to remember which is which
19:58:55  <PublicServer> <Mark> BBH08 merge is weird
19:59:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hard to remember, they're numbered CCW starting at the top :P
19:59:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
19:59:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> still better to name them by industries
19:59:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and BBHs are numbered the same :P
19:59:58  <PublicServer> <mfb> I don't know the industries by location :/
20:00:12  <PublicServer> <mfb> NW/SW/NE/SE ok? :D
20:00:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D
20:01:28  <PublicServer> *** Sietse has left the game (general timeout)
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20:01:30  <PublicServer> <Mark> started on 3rd at slh19
20:01:52  <PublicServer> <mfb> started at BBH07 spoke
20:04:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> not sure how to expand BBH07
20:04:24  <PublicServer> <Ryton> the W-most line going in steel drop, can that one
20:04:47  <PublicServer> <Ryton> has to pass the station at MSH03a atm
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20:04:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> I know
20:04:56  <PublicServer> <Ryton> still needs a bypass somewhere
20:04:58  <PublicServer> <Ryton> oki
20:05:05  <PublicServer> <Ryton> just mentioning it :-)
20:05:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure I was just expanding the SLHs around so I could easily forget to return to it :)
20:06:51  <PublicServer> <mfb> lol, interesting presignals at SLH03 Xeryus :p
20:08:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> way too many slhs :P
20:08:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lies and slander!
20:09:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> im going to make slh12 a 2-way one i think
20:09:43  <PublicServer> <Mark> though running that forest directly to the drop and killing it would be way easier
20:09:43  <PublicServer> <Mark> and makes much more sense too
20:09:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but that is boring
20:09:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it would be easier to create a spur off slh 12
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20:14:15  <PublicServer> <mfb> nearly a circle :D
20:14:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> can i send trains over the 3rd lane yet?
20:14:33  <PublicServer> <Mark> no
20:14:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> kind of helps in fixing bbh7
20:14:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :(
20:14:47  <PublicServer> <Mark> k now you can
20:14:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> made a temp join though
20:15:07  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i have to rethink my strategy anyway
20:15:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but sending trains on it anyway :P
20:16:57  <PublicServer> <Mark> your slhs survived for now
20:17:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> \o/
20:22:12  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
20:24:02  <sietse> !password
20:24:02  <PublicServer> sietse: gulped
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20:24:25  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> =D
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20:24:34  <PublicServer> <Sietse> heya
20:24:40  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hiya
20:24:52  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
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20:25:16  <PublicServer> <Ryton> @@gap 5
20:25:24  <Webster> PublicServer: (gap <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1.
20:25:52  <PublicServer> <Ryton> @@gap 5 2
20:25:54  <Webster> PublicServer: (gap <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1.
20:26:18  <Ryton> @gap 5 2
20:26:18  <Webster> Ryton: For Trainlength of 5: <= 11 needs 2, 12 - 18 needs 3, 19 - 25 needs 4.
20:26:25  <Ryton> ty Webster  :p
20:26:28  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> anyone need a noob's help>?
20:26:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> who added 3rd west of bbh7?
20:27:12  <PublicServer> <mfb> at rollercoaster ride? me
20:27:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bit far away from the hub imo :P
20:27:52  <PublicServer> <mfb> I expect a 3rd there soon
20:28:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> please dont touch signals when im working on something
20:28:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> annoys the crap out of me
20:30:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> 3rd at bbh08 done?
20:30:11  <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout)
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20:30:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> exit missing
20:30:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bbh 7 done
20:31:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> basically rebuild the entire thing :P
20:31:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm crap
20:32:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> "imagine a farm here"
20:32:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> epic sign
20:32:39  <PublicServer> <mfb> 3rd at BBH08 done
20:32:41  <PublicServer> <mfb> and it is ugly
20:33:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bbh6 is kind of stuck :s
20:33:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> with a WIP sign :o
20:33:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> bad waiting bays
20:33:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah
20:33:29  <Meechtastic> !pass
20:33:33  <Meechtastic> !password
20:33:33  <PublicServer> Meechtastic: gulped
20:33:35  <PublicServer> <mfb> great
20:33:45  <Meechtastic> !password
20:33:45  <PublicServer> Meechtastic: stench
20:33:53  <PublicServer> <mfb> still bad
20:34:03  <PublicServer> <mfb> well, feel free to work at it
20:34:05  <PublicServer> <mfb> and add a 3rd :D
20:34:07  <Meechtastic> lmao
20:34:11  <Meechtastic> !password
20:34:11  <PublicServer> Meechtastic: stench
20:34:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fixed :P
20:34:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Ryton is working there anyway
20:34:32  <PublicServer> <Ryton> trying :p
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20:34:40  <PublicServer> <Ryton> sorry, kind of slow :p
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20:35:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> damnit Ryton
20:35:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you forgot to reconnect one ML lane
20:35:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> now slh13 is jammed xD
20:36:04  <PublicServer> <Ryton> hmm?
20:36:21  <PublicServer> <Ryton> sorry :s didnt notice that
20:36:28  <PublicServer> <Ryton> what tile did I fail toconnect? :s
20:36:34  <PublicServer> <Ryton> and ty for fixing :p
20:36:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but do we really need a 3rd there?
20:37:00  <PublicServer> <Ryton> :was thining how to connect lines from east to this 3rd line
20:37:06  <PublicServer> <Ryton> probably not
20:37:22  <PublicServer> <Ryton> but it was stated a long long time ago :p
20:37:40  <PublicServer> <Ryton> that the ring to expand, was the 3rd?
20:37:54  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no, we were expanding ring 4 with a 3rd lane
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20:38:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> looks like 3 will be next though
20:38:54  <PublicServer> <Mark> we might need to rethink prios at some of the BBHs
20:38:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> probably all the inner parts need expansion soon
20:40:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> gold tubulars ftw
20:40:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> jup
20:41:12  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i made a couple of golden hubs :D
20:42:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Vogar Mines doesnt need more trains
20:42:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> messed a bout a bit with upgrading xD
20:43:00  <PublicServer> <Mark> :)
20:43:23  <PublicServer> <Mark> BAN PRIMARY TERMINI
20:43:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D
20:43:36  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
20:43:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see V, i'm not the only one who hates them ;)
20:44:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> \o/
20:44:36  <PublicServer> <mfb> wtf my stations got station buffers
20:44:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> station buffers?
20:45:00  <PublicServer> <Mark> you got buffer'd
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20:45:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh
20:45:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> awesome!
20:45:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> wtf is that
20:45:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> eyecandy
20:45:54  <PublicServer> <Mark> wow thats pretty :D
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20:46:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> in other words: without any function in the game
20:46:08  <PublicServer> <mfb> unless it extends the catchment area in some way
20:46:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Ryton: bbh7 cant do with a 3rd in from that direction btw :P
20:48:03  <PublicServer> <Mark> 07 is jammy
20:48:05  <PublicServer> <Mark> not merging to 3rd
20:48:25  <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven[l] has left the game (leaving)
20:49:13  <Meechtastic> !password
20:49:13  <PublicServer> Meechtastic: raping
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20:49:34  <Meechtastic> raping is a bad password
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20:50:33  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ty XeryusTC :p
20:50:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ?
20:50:46  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> anyone need helP?
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20:50:55  <PublicServer> <Ryton> yeah I do :p
20:51:01  <PublicServer> <Ryton> see !WIP Ryton
20:51:03  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ;-)
20:51:05  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> ok
20:51:35  <PublicServer> <Ryton> trying to figure out how to connect lines from east to 3rd line
20:51:35  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> yeah nobody can help yo uthere =P
20:51:37  <PublicServer> <Mark> what are you trying to do?
20:52:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> try to keep bridges as short as possible
20:52:26  <PublicServer> <Ryton> maybe adding a line east of the hub is easier?
20:52:28  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> use tackle, its super effective
20:52:42  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ty, but was thining to mix later Mark :-)
20:52:57  <PublicServer> <Ryton> but then the city is annoyed :;p
20:52:59  <PublicServer> <mfb> there is an option
20:53:09  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ok ty
20:53:19  <PublicServer> <Ryton> superb
20:53:21  <PublicServer> <Mark> ugly though
20:53:23  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
20:53:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> do we have 3x3 grid towns?
20:53:40  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> doube tunnel
20:53:42  <PublicServer> <Mark> looks like it
20:53:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> changed the oil thing
20:54:00  <PublicServer> <Mark> hehe
20:54:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hopefully the drop and pickup station wont have the farm in their range anymore
20:54:08  <PublicServer> <mfb> lol
20:54:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> is that enough? :P
20:54:36  <PublicServer> <mfb> 0% transported now
20:54:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> good :D
20:55:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> Ryton: that hub's flawed to begin with, no choices for outermost inbound NE track
20:55:21  <XeryusTC> !rcon raw_industry_construction 1
20:55:21  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ERROR: command not found
20:55:29  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 1
20:55:35  <PublicServer> <Ryton> I konw, but how to make the best of it ? :-)
20:55:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> well, that has a prio
20:55:57  <PublicServer> <Mark> yea
20:55:59  <PublicServer> <Mark> still ugly
20:56:09  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> smoosh with bulldoza
20:56:10  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 2
20:56:11  <PublicServer> <Ryton> I can live with ugly
20:56:26  <PublicServer> <Ryton> but bulldozer or dynamite works too
20:56:28  <PublicServer> <mfb> I don't think this part is ugly
20:56:30  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> thats what my g/f kept telling me
20:56:33  <PublicServer> <mfb> the main traffic is E->N
20:57:03  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ah :p
20:57:05  <PublicServer> <Mark> well it should either have choices from one way or the other, not half/half
20:57:07  <PublicServer> <Ryton> I doubled the wrong area? :p
20:57:37  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ah should have choice full flow to one, or full flow to second one?
20:58:01  <PublicServer> <Mark> i'd say so
20:58:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> inbound spoke should have prio in this case i think
20:58:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> hardly any traffic stays on the ring
21:01:40  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> its not too late to use bulldozer
21:01:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> more oil :D
21:01:52  <PublicServer> <Ryton> Ok for me :D
21:01:52  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (processing map took too long)
21:01:52  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost)
21:01:57  <PublicServer> <Ryton> ask LoPo tough
21:02:20  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> just kidding
21:02:24  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost)
21:02:26  <PublicServer> <Ryton> I wasnt :p
21:02:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and another one xD
21:02:44  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lol
21:03:00  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> thats what happens when you fund them =P
21:03:15  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 0
21:03:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well
21:03:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> tempted to dig out an ocean
21:03:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not possible anymore now
21:03:30  <PublicServer> <Mark> prospecting failed 10 times in a row
21:03:36  <PublicServer> <Mark> oh
21:03:38  <PublicServer> <Mark> :D
21:04:08  <PublicServer> <Mark> aww turn it back on
21:04:10  <PublicServer> <Mark> want some oil
21:05:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i dont want a LLxRR SL there :P
21:05:08  <mfb-> lol
21:05:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> ima dig out an ocean somewhere
21:06:41  <PublicServer> <mfb> most steel brothers died
21:06:56  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> super steelio brothers?
21:08:55  *** dwarf has joined #openttdcoop
21:09:02  <dwarf> !playercount
21:09:02  <PublicServer> dwarf: Number of players: 9 (2 spectators)
21:09:09  <PublicServer> <Ryton> can/should the 3rd line in ring 3 be connected, or does that just shuft the problem from  MSH3B to BBH07?
21:09:40  <dwarf> !password
21:09:40  <PublicServer> dwarf: egoism
21:09:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> I think the problem at MSH03b is just that the new connection adds a lot of bad waiting bays
21:09:54  <PublicServer> <mfb> and a new join without prio
21:10:07  <PublicServer> *** dwarf joined the game
21:10:09  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah, 3rd ready
21:10:11  <PublicServer> <mfb> just connect
21:10:13  <PublicServer> <Ryton> the 3rd line isnt connected yet
21:10:23  <PublicServer> <Ryton> but just 2 lines goinog out to BBH°7...
21:10:25  <PublicServer> <Ryton> lets try
21:10:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, SLH05 missing
21:10:49  <PublicServer> <mfb> and 16 and BBH05
21:11:12  <PublicServer> <mfb> feel free to connect the 3rd
21:11:18  <PublicServer> <Ryton> indeed
21:11:21  <PublicServer> <Ryton> me is off
21:11:23  <PublicServer> <Ryton> srry
21:11:27  <PublicServer> *** Ryton has left the game (leaving)
21:11:59  <PublicServer> <Mark> what the fuck
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21:12:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> dont just delete stuff someone's working on
21:12:27  <PublicServer> <Mark> fuck sake
21:12:29  <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving)
21:12:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol?
21:12:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ragequit?
21:12:42  <PublicServer> <mfb> which part?
21:12:46  <Mark> ye
21:12:49  <Mark> im off anyway
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21:12:55  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> glad that wasnt me xD
21:13:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf is happening here :D
21:13:50  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> brain disease is messing with our headzz
21:13:52  <Chris_Booth> calm down
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21:21:05  <PublicServer> <mfb> who is building at BBH05?
21:21:23  <PublicServer> <dwarf> me, but not going to connect now
21:21:30  <PublicServer> <mfb> 3rd is ready
21:21:37  <PublicServer> <mfb> from both sides
21:22:07  <PublicServer> <dwarf> I dont'have enough time to do it now
21:22:17  <PublicServer> <dwarf> at least not properly
21:22:35  <PublicServer> <dwarf> I could connect from BBH4
21:23:46  <PublicServer> <mfb> "connect from BBH04"?
21:26:13  <PublicServer> <dwarf> gtg, damnpacific time zone
21:26:26  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> only 230pm there =P
21:26:28  <PublicServer> <mfb> ~13:00?
21:26:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> move to a proper continent :P
21:26:37  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lol
21:26:43  <PublicServer> <dwarf> someone should be here around GMT 02 so I can play
21:26:53  <PublicServer> <dwarf> I just moved here :D
21:27:03  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> im in Eastern time zone,. might check in later tonight
21:27:17  <PublicServer> <dwarf> anyways, cy
21:27:20  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> later
21:27:23  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> speaking of the USA
21:27:25  <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (leaving)
21:27:31  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> where's sylf? Did he get hit by a tornado?
21:27:41  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> there were tornados where he's at yesterday
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21:36:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm
21:36:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> slh8 has caused some jamming
21:36:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> added some penalties to avoid
21:40:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> I have an open connection at BBH05 :(
21:41:15  <PublicServer> <mfb> any ideas?
21:42:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah
21:42:36  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> msh 01b is getting slow
21:43:03  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> i thin kwe beed a better mix
21:43:25  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> at !here, they are prefering the outer lane
21:44:52  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm... add mixing?
21:46:34  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> ahh, flow is much better now
21:47:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm
21:47:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bbh7 is jammed
21:47:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> trains dont have enough mixing oportunities
21:47:54  <PublicServer> <mfb> flow is very unequal
21:48:04  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> wel lgood news is that one industry is gone
21:48:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> the inner line in the ring has nearly no trains in this directiopn
21:50:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> what is that?
21:50:33  <mfb-> 3rd line v2?
21:50:45  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah
21:50:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> balancer v3
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21:52:29  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> bb
21:53:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we need to remove those tunnels in slh 8
21:54:14  <PublicServer> <mfb> why?
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21:57:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hopefully this works better
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21:59:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> someone forgot to combo a signal in bbh8
21:59:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> leading to a prio not being a prio xD
22:00:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hopefully it will unjam ring 1
22:03:41  <XeryusTC> !rcon set max_trains 700
22:04:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Is that mixer in BBH02 such a good idea?  Now almost all trains take the full east line, almost none the west one.
22:05:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lopo seems to like these kind of joiners
22:05:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> where one lane from both direction chooses
22:05:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes.
22:06:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> added a penalty for good measure
22:06:21  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's right, I saw him building 06.
22:07:11  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It's all coming back to me, oh, the horror, the horror!
22:08:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> added a penalty anyway
22:08:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> balances a bit better now it seems
22:08:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but ring 4 might need a 4th
22:10:17  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Seems to flow alliright, and the end of the third is not even connected yet.
22:10:59  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lo
22:11:22  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, that's only fromo the drop.
22:11:22  <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving)
22:11:22  <PublicServer> <Mazur> lo
22:11:37  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hey, look! Its that new member ;)\
22:11:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Is it?  Where?
22:12:04  <XeryusTC> he must be the oldest member
22:12:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I heard about it, but haven;t sen him yet.
22:12:32  <mfb-> :p
22:17:24  <mfb-> Mazur:
22:18:03  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> oh goodie, i can finally see where everyone lives now =D
22:18:26  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hmm, where am I at ?
22:18:29  <XeryusTC> oh right
22:18:35  <XeryusTC> i shall file Mazur under the right list
22:19:11  <mfb-> oh, and I think Mucht and me are in the wrong order
22:19:47  <Mazur> Well, I did not move either there, did I.
22:20:14  <XeryusTC> no
22:20:15  <XeryusTC> fixing :P
22:20:18  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> who do I kidnap to get on the list?
22:20:32  <mfb-> become a "usual suspect" :p
22:20:46  <Mazur> useful helps, too.
22:20:52  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> Im already on the post office wall
22:21:09  <XeryusTC> oh, someone already updated :s
22:21:39  <Mazur> Yeah, odd how quick that goes when someone gets it pointed out.
22:22:38  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> hey so a friend of mine had an idea for me in real life
22:22:42  <Mazur> It's like that magical split in BBH 06, I think it must be some elves, you know, like hte kind that used to make shoes for the kind, poor cobbler.
22:22:52  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> since i build computers and sell them, they mentioned i should include openttd in programs =D
22:23:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> LOL train in a dish :D
22:23:38  <Mazur> Yezzz, moar annoying clueless newbies for me to kcik around.
22:23:46  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> lol
22:24:12  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> all bridges in ring 4 should be golden :P
22:24:27  <Mazur> Oh, should I hgave a * to my name?
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22:24:40  <XeryusTC> dunno, do you have ssh access?
22:24:47  <mfb-> :D
22:25:08  <Mazur> Were you not around when pm did his magic this afternoon?
22:25:22  <XeryusTC> yes, but you failed to give a proper key, twice
22:25:34  <XeryusTC> then i went off to do other stuff
22:25:36  <Mazur> Nope, pm failed to know how to use those.
22:25:38  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> do we need gold bridges all around?
22:25:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no, i just prefer gold bridges :P
22:26:03  <Mazur> So I gave him a raw line from my ssh file.
22:26:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> best bridges are the newbridges monorail track-only
22:26:30  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> there should be a multi bridege
22:28:30  <XeryusTC> !trains 750
22:28:30  <Mazur> I've been dreaming about a newgrf with separate bridge parts on pillars, so you could build bends and stuff.
22:28:45  <XeryusTC> !rcon set max_trains 750
22:31:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, i build 13/19 SLHs :D
22:31:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
22:31:48  <Meechtastic> haha omg, check this stuff out if yo uget the chance =D
22:31:49  <Webster> Title: Google BBS Terminal (at
22:34:13  <PublicServer> *** Big Meech has joined spectators
22:34:42  <PublicServer> <Big Meech> tired here, will bb tomorrow or later today =D
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22:37:26  <mfb-> good night
22:37:36  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> gn
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22:44:54  <Hazzard> !password
22:44:54  <PublicServer> Hazzard: whiled
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22:45:35  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Upgraded already?!
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22:50:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> upgrading is fast
22:54:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, someone had replaced hte wings with decorative end-bits.
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23:01:30  <PublicServer> <Sietse> gnight
23:01:34  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Night
23:01:36  <PublicServer> *** Sietse has left the game (leaving)
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23:11:17  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> fffs
23:20:59  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Why third end?
23:21:07  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Oh nvm
23:21:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ring 1 might need a 3rd
23:21:44  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Once again I have made a stupid mistake
23:23:27  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> What
23:23:35  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> That doesn't even make sense
23:23:45  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> ._.
23:25:27  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Does the pbs signal not know there is a train going that way?
23:25:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just turning signals into pbs might cause trains to crash
23:26:39  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> That has never happened to me before
23:26:42  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Weird
23:31:10  <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I gtg now
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23:33:29  <dwarf> !password
23:33:29  <PublicServer> dwarf: bugled
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23:34:11  <dwarf> !password
23:34:11  <PublicServer> dwarf: mooter
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