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00:31:02 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 01:16:06 *** Rythoka has joined #openttdcoop 01:16:32 *** mib_d8e86y has joined #openttdcoop 01:16:34 <mib_d8e86y> Want Free Rewards? Click Here! ->> http://quickprize.info/?ref=11509 01:16:35 <Webster> Title: QuickPrize | FREE Rewards For Collecting Points (at quickprize.info) 01:16:35 *** mib_d8e86y has left #openttdcoop 01:18:46 <Rythoka> Not sure if spam 01:18:52 <Rythoka> But pretty sure is spam. 01:25:32 *** Razaekal has joined #openttdcoop 01:31:00 *** Razaekel has quit IRC 01:32:02 *** yorick has joined #openttdcoop 01:33:14 *** yorick_ has quit IRC 01:47:17 <Rythoka> I read something that said you're not supposed to have stations on your mainline 01:47:31 <Rythoka> So is the mainline just supposed to be a long track with nothing on it or something? 01:50:25 <theholyduck> Rythoka, theres a hirarchy :P 01:50:50 <Rythoka> Not entirely sure what you mean by that 01:50:59 <theholyduck> the mainline is only supposed to be connected to other mainlines with bbh's, to sidelines with slhs, and to main stations with a msh 01:51:07 <theholyduck> back bone hub, side line hub, main station hub 01:51:08 <theholyduck> respetivly 01:51:13 <Rythoka> mhmm 01:51:22 <theholyduck> primary industries, are connected to the sideline 01:51:47 <theholyduck> Rythoka, all this should be covered in the wiki somewhere 01:51:58 <Rythoka> But my question is 01:52:03 *** tkjacobs1n has joined #openttdcoop 01:52:11 <Rythoka> What exactly does the mainline itself consist of? 01:52:18 <theholyduck> its just normal lines 01:52:27 <theholyduck> usually atleast LL RR 01:52:45 <theholyduck> Rythoka, the hirachy is there to reduce jamming 01:53:15 <theholyduck> basicly, think of the main line as the line where trains should travel at full speed without ever having to brake until they exit the mainline 01:53:21 <theholyduck> idealy, thats the case 01:53:58 <Rythoka> So there should've be any stations or anything on the mainline, then? Not even on the ends of it? 01:54:03 <Rythoka> shouldn't* 01:54:10 <theholyduck> Rythoka, depending on the design, there might be 01:54:49 *** tkjacobsen has quit IRC 01:55:39 <theholyduck> Rythoka, we vote on a gameplan before we start playing 01:55:50 <theholyduck> which generally has info about how the mainlines and main stations should be organized 02:04:05 <Rythoka> Thanks for the explanations 02:14:07 *** pugi_ has joined #openttdcoop 02:20:05 *** pugi has quit IRC 02:20:06 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 02:30:18 <Rythoka> !players 02:30:21 <PublicServer> Rythoka: There are currently no clients connected to the server 02:30:27 <Rythoka> !help 02:30:27 <PublicServer> Rythoka: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 02:39:46 *** dwarf has joined #openttdcoop 02:40:13 <dwarf> !players 02:40:16 <PublicServer> dwarf: There are currently no clients connected to the server 02:44:42 *** Rythoka has quit IRC 02:50:39 *** pugi has quit IRC 04:01:04 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 05:56:32 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 06:53:48 *** TWerkhoven[l] has joined #openttdcoop 06:57:47 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 07:01:41 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 07:08:23 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 07:17:59 *** dwarf has quit IRC 07:19:05 *** TWerkhoven[l] has quit IRC 07:29:39 *** dwarf has joined #openttdcoop 07:29:40 <dwarf> !players 07:29:42 <PublicServer> dwarf: There are currently no clients connected to the server 07:30:32 *** TWerkhoven[l] has joined #openttdcoop 07:33:46 <dwarf> !password 07:33:46 <PublicServer> dwarf: golder 07:34:24 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 07:34:25 <PublicServer> *** dwarf joined the game 07:45:13 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (connection lost) 07:45:39 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 07:45:42 <PublicServer> *** dwarf joined the game 07:51:01 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (leaving) 08:12:21 *** Rhamphoryncus has joined #openttdcoop 08:20:23 *** th_gergo has joined #openttdcoop 08:20:29 *** th_gergo has left #openttdcoop 08:34:02 *** Dwarden has joined #openttdcoop 09:08:25 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 09:22:29 *** Hazzard has joined #openttdcoop 09:24:26 <Hazzard> Hi 09:24:31 <Hazzard> !info 09:24:31 <PublicServer> Hazzard: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Hunbourne Transport' Year Founded: 2100 Money: 18826749934 Loan: 0 Value: 18835799688 (T:1904, R:169, P:15, S:5) unprotected 09:24:35 *** Tray has quit IRC 09:36:55 *** MDGrein has quit IRC 10:00:39 *** dwarf has quit IRC 10:05:01 *** th_gergo has joined #openttdcoop 10:05:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mark 10:05:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v XeryusTC 10:05:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v OwenS 10:05:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Sylf 10:05:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v KenjiE20 10:05:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v V453000 10:05:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v planetmaker 10:05:53 *** yorick is now known as Guest13 10:12:47 *** th_gergo has quit IRC 10:18:45 *** th_gergo has joined #openttdcoop 10:30:15 <Big_Meech> hi 10:36:47 <V453000> o/ 10:41:20 <Big_Meech> hey 10:41:26 <Big_Meech> =D 11:39:45 *** th_gergo has quit IRC 11:48:23 *** pugi has quit IRC 12:52:02 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 12:55:03 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 12:55:47 <Tray> !playercount 12:55:48 <PublicServer> Tray: Number of players: 0 (0 spectators) 13:18:25 *** BenW_ has left #openttdcoop 13:26:55 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 13:29:17 *** th_gergo has joined #openttdcoop 13:50:07 *** roboboy has quit IRC 13:53:26 *** tkjacobsen has joined #openttdcoop 13:53:26 *** tkjacobs1n has quit IRC 13:53:57 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 13:53:57 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster 14:03:49 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 14:07:53 *** th_gergo has left #openttdcoop 14:08:30 *** rails has quit IRC 14:21:12 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has left the game (connection lost) 14:21:12 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:22:52 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:22:52 <PublicServer> *** Combuster joined the game 14:23:22 *** cavejohnson has joined #openttdcoop 14:23:57 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has joined company #1 14:30:54 *** cavejohnson has quit IRC 14:32:42 *** cavejohnson has joined #openttdcoop 14:44:26 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has left the game (leaving) 15:08:29 *** Hazzard has quit IRC 15:21:11 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 15:48:55 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 15:59:59 <Giddorah> !players 16:00:02 <PublicServer> Giddorah: There are currently no clients connected to the server 16:00:10 * Giddorah frowns. 16:01:40 <hylje> oh 16:03:56 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 16:03:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 16:21:56 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 16:21:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster 16:24:04 *** pugi has quit IRC 16:43:10 <Giddorah> It's 2:42PM EST right now, right? 16:56:59 *** Big_Meech has quit IRC 17:07:01 *** BiG_MeEcH has joined #openttdcoop 17:07:05 <BiG_MeEcH> hi 17:19:10 *** soloswitch has joined #openttdcoop 17:19:18 <soloswitch> !password 17:19:18 <PublicServer> soloswitch: golder 17:20:09 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:20:12 <PublicServer> *** soloswitchw joined the game 17:22:57 <PublicServer> *** soloswitchw has left the game (leaving) 17:22:59 <Giddorah> You need to do something? :) 17:23:00 *** soloswitch has quit IRC 17:32:37 *** Progman has quit IRC 17:44:49 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 18:03:22 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 18:05:15 *** dwarf has joined #openttdcoop 18:07:52 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 18:14:31 <dwarf> !players 18:14:34 <PublicServer> dwarf: There are currently no clients connected to the server 18:15:09 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (connection lost) 18:15:09 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:15:29 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:15:29 <PublicServer> *** dwarf joined the game 18:16:13 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (leaving) 18:21:58 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:21:59 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 18:25:22 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 18:37:41 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 18:59:48 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 19:25:31 <Giddorah> Any germans around? ;) 19:33:43 *** Xotic750 has joined #openttdcoop 19:34:23 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 19:34:33 *** Keyboard_Warrior has joined #openttdcoop 19:40:38 <Mazth> !info 19:40:38 <PublicServer> Mazth: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Hunbourne Transport' Year Founded: 2100 Money: 18826749934 Loan: 0 Value: 18835799688 (T:1904, R:169, P:15, S:5) unprotected 19:57:21 <dwarf> !players 19:57:23 <PublicServer> dwarf: There are currently no clients connected to the server 20:00:20 <XeryusTC> hmm 20:00:27 <XeryusTC> maybe it is time to move this game to the PZ 20:00:29 <XeryusTC> or archive it 20:00:50 *** Xotic750 has left #openttdcoop 20:04:37 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 20:05:29 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop 20:05:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mfb- 20:05:33 <mfb-> hi 20:05:33 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 20:05:36 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 20:05:50 <XeryusTC> mfb-: move this game to PZ or archive? 20:06:06 <Chris_Booth> hi 20:06:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> I think archive is fine 20:06:18 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 20:06:18 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:06:20 <PublicServer> *** dwarf joined the game 20:06:44 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 20:06:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> it is an interesting concept, but the trains don't have the capacity to make it big 20:06:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> (and loading speed) 20:07:04 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nope 20:07:10 <XeryusTC> hmm 20:07:16 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> IMO it would get lost on PZ 20:07:18 <XeryusTC> imo the plan was boring as poo 20:07:22 <XeryusTC> but maybe thats just me 20:07:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, pax with large stations somewhere 20:07:44 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the plan was what you made of it xtc 20:08:09 <XeryusTC> it was basically: make this giant sbahn 20:08:10 <XeryusTC> done 20:08:20 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yep 20:08:38 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but NUTS made it fail 20:08:39 <XeryusTC> anyway, i´ll build a new savegame 20:09:02 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> maybe if we didn't use intercity trains 20:09:17 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 20:09:27 <Chris_Booth> which are just useless IMO 20:10:10 <V453000> you would definitely not get better throughput with local trains 20:11:30 <mfb-> transrapid <3 20:11:52 <V453000> and tbh, nuts has at least similar capacity to other sets if not better 20:11:59 <V453000> so I doubt it is "fault" of the set 20:12:07 <V453000> in fact, the concept is based on making it big 20:12:09 <V453000> see 192 20:12:42 <V453000> when you want to make all cargo go through one station, of course the throughput requirement is super high 20:14:42 <Chris_Booth> very true 20:14:59 <Chris_Booth> I think we have become to used to DB Set Pax 20:15:20 *** soloswitch has joined #openttdcoop 20:15:24 <soloswitch> !password 20:15:24 <PublicServer> soloswitch: golder 20:15:37 <PublicServer> *** soloswitchw joined the game 20:16:49 <XeryusTC> server is compiling an update :D 20:16:59 <PublicServer> <soloswitchw> yey 20:17:05 <PublicServer> <soloswitchw> is this game nr completion? 20:18:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 20:18:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> we have one !WIP from Ryton 20:18:41 <Chris_Booth> been like that for ages 20:18:45 <Chris_Booth> his failBahn 20:18:50 <PublicServer> <soloswitchw> and theres the claimed island from cermix 20:18:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> and now it has signals 20:19:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> so it is probably fine 20:19:27 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (connection lost) 20:19:50 <dwarf> well, it's fine for me to start a new one 20:19:57 <dwarf> gtg, cu later 20:20:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> I don't see anything new, just WIP signs which hang around for days now 20:20:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> and the server is really busy compiling at the moment 20:21:01 <XeryusTC> !getsave https://www.dropbox.com/s/kaqlonae2e4xull/psg236_start.sav 20:21:02 <Webster> Title: Dropbox - psg236_start.sav (at www.dropbox.com) 20:21:03 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: OK :-) 20:21:08 <XeryusTC> ty PublicServer 20:22:19 <XeryusTC> !content 20:22:19 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Connection established 20:22:19 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes) 20:22:20 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded) 20:22:24 <XeryusTC> !content 20:22:26 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Expect timeout triggered! 20:22:28 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Expect timeout triggered! 20:22:28 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded) 20:22:39 <XeryusTC> !players 20:22:41 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Client 1481 (Orange) is mfb, in company 1 (Hunbourne Transport) 20:22:41 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Client 1489 (Orange) is soloswitchw, in company 1 (Hunbourne Transport) 20:22:42 <PublicServer> *** soloswitchw has left the game (leaving) 20:22:42 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:22:56 <XeryusTC> !save psg235 20:22:56 <PublicServer> Saving game... 20:23:45 <XeryusTC> !content 20:23:45 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Connection established 20:23:45 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes) 20:23:45 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded) 20:23:53 <XeryusTC> are you guys busy on the server atm? 20:24:00 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 20:24:09 <mfb-> no 20:24:13 <mfb-> !playercount 20:24:13 <PublicServer> mfb-: Number of players: 0 (0 spectators) 20:24:17 <XeryusTC> !restart 20:24:17 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 20:25:02 <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely 20:25:02 <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r24119. 20:25:07 <PublicServer> Server has exited 20:25:08 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 20:25:21 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 20:25:21 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 20:25:21 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 20:25:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 20:25:22 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG235 (r24217) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 20:25:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00012530: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00012530.png 20:26:35 <soloswitch> is the password still golder? :P 20:26:40 <XeryusTC> dunno 20:26:42 <XeryusTC> !password 20:26:42 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: larges 20:26:45 <XeryusTC> seems not 20:26:48 <XeryusTC> !dl win64 20:26:48 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24217/openttd-trunk-r24217-windows-win64.zip 20:27:08 <XeryusTC> !dl win32 20:27:08 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24217/openttd-trunk-r24217-windows-win32.zip 20:27:11 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 20:27:14 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 20:27:59 *** dwarf has quit IRC 20:28:21 <XeryusTC> hmm, nice 20:28:31 <XeryusTC> the files are not on the ottd servers yet :o 20:29:48 <soloswitch> ah 20:30:00 <soloswitch> so thats why i have problems using the auto updator 20:30:07 <soloswitch> updater 20:30:17 <XeryusTC> yeah 20:30:23 <Mazth> updator sounds wayyy cooler :P 20:30:23 <XeryusTC> lets just blame planetmaker for this 20:31:58 <mfb-> AU worked here 20:33:00 <soloswitch> kk 20:33:23 <soloswitch> im in 20:33:31 <soloswitch> !password 20:33:31 <PublicServer> soloswitch: larges 20:33:45 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 20:33:45 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:33:47 <PublicServer> *** soloswitchw joined the game 20:33:48 <soloswitch> pass generator working again 20:33:52 <Mazth> hey the pw gen is fixed =) 20:34:05 <XeryusTC> yeah 20:34:12 <XeryusTC> i thought a restart would fix it :P 20:34:23 <XeryusTC> but there is still no win64 binaries here :( 20:34:26 <Mazth> he prolly was just a bit tired from all that db searching :P 20:35:50 <XeryusTC> US server has dem binaries 20:35:57 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 20:36:38 <Mazth> pw gen just using English 6 letter wordlist? 20:36:46 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (leaving) 20:36:49 <XeryusTC> yes 20:37:23 <Mazth> how big is the list? 20:37:38 <XeryusTC> uhm 20:37:51 <XeryusTC> its the debian english dictionary 20:38:04 *** Steven has joined #openttdcoop 20:38:05 <XeryusTC> so several 10 000s or 100 000s :P 20:38:55 <XeryusTC> !transfer 20:38:55 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: !transfer gamenr save: transfer the save to our web (publicserver) 20:39:05 <Mazth> haha nice =) 20:39:21 <XeryusTC> !transfer 235 psg235_final 20:39:21 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: no file! 20:39:21 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Usage: /home/openttd/script/transfer.sh [publicserver|prozone] [-f] [-h|u] gamenr save 20:39:23 <XeryusTC> !transfer 235 psg235_final.sav 20:39:28 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: PublicServerGame_235_Final.sav 20:39:28 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Transfer done. (/home/openttd/svn-publicserver/autopilot/save/psg235_final.sav->http://www.openttdcoop.org//files/PublicServer_archive/PublicServerGame_235_Final.sav) 20:42:57 <XeryusTC> hmm 20:43:02 <XeryusTC> i made an archive entry 20:43:10 <XeryusTC> it just needs the names of the suspects and a screenshot 20:43:26 <XeryusTC> oh 20:43:29 <XeryusTC> and the entry is broken xD 20:43:43 <mfb-> I'll fix it 20:44:25 <planetmaker> soloswitch: which URL doesn't work? 20:44:27 <XeryusTC> fixed the page 20:44:32 <soloswitch> its all ok now 20:44:39 <soloswitch> managed to use the autoupdater 20:45:00 <mfb-> oh ok 20:45:47 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 20:45:54 <XeryusTC> mfb-: are you adding the thumbnail etc? 20:46:12 <mfb-> I am adding the usual suspects 20:47:32 <XeryusTC> ok cool 20:47:39 <XeryusTC> i´ll just leave the game around a little longer then 20:48:41 <XeryusTC> @stage Archiving... 20:48:41 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG235 (r24217) | STAGE: Archiving... | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 20:49:06 <PublicServer> *** soloswitchw has left the game (leaving) 20:49:06 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:49:11 <soloswitch> too laggy now :P 20:49:31 <XeryusTC> !players 20:49:31 <Chris_Booth> mfb do forget the unusual ones <------ 20:49:33 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Client 4 (Orange) is mfb, in company 1 (Hunbourne Transport) 20:50:05 <mfb-> feel free to remove them :p 20:50:20 <Chris_Booth> lol 20:50:46 <mfb-> I think only soloswitch is new 20:51:10 <Chris_Booth> I was commenting on me being unusual not new peeps 20:51:41 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 20:52:48 <soloswitch> so how did i do for my first game? apart from the station issue early on 20:53:08 <mfb-> not bad ;) 20:53:14 <soloswitch> yey! 20:53:21 <soloswitch> i see the hall of fame is looking a bit empty 20:53:23 <soloswitch> how come? 20:54:07 <mfb-> screenshot suggestions? 20:54:53 <soloswitch> the central stations? 20:55:02 <Chris_Booth> that mess :P 20:55:07 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:55:20 <Mazth> all the mess! 20:56:02 <soloswitch> or my central station :P 20:56:54 <soloswitch> also, what happened to the ottc scenario thingy 20:57:23 <XeryusTC> osai ran it I think, and it was not very active on the judge´s part 20:58:08 <soloswitch> ah 20:58:18 <Chris_Booth> yes 20:58:31 <soloswitch> osai still around? 20:58:39 <XeryusTC> sometimes 20:58:58 <mfb-> http://s14.directupload.net/images/120509/onx65a36.png like this? 20:59:24 <soloswitch> humm 20:59:26 <Chris_Booth> more than you would think 20:59:30 <soloswitch> yeah 20:59:35 <Chris_Booth> look good M 20:59:40 <XeryusTC> quite nice 21:00:07 <Mazth> looks massive thus good :P 21:00:34 <Chris_Booth> 9.5/10 21:00:35 <XeryusTC> i´ll load the savegame for the new game :P 21:00:44 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:00:57 <soloswitch> i love this 21:00:58 <soloswitch> Because the "messier" part of games tends to be "mega messy" on Public Server, chaos was officially banned from PS. ProZone games still run chaos from time to time because the networks tend to be less messy there from the very beginning and over all making more perspective decisions. 21:01:01 <soloswitch> hahaha 21:01:05 <XeryusTC> !password 21:01:05 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: mourns 21:01:17 <soloswitch> you know the game type is gonna be fun if its officially banned 21:01:19 <soloswitch> :P 21:01:32 <Chris_Booth> we have used it since it ban 21:01:54 <XeryusTC> !rcon server_pw 21:01:54 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'server_password' is: 'golder' 21:02:01 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:02:04 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 21:02:06 <XeryusTC> oh god no 21:02:09 <XeryusTC> on two counts 21:02:11 <XeryusTC> golder is back 21:02:16 <XeryusTC> and it fails to load my game again xD 21:02:43 <soloswitch> !password 21:02:43 <PublicServer> soloswitch: mourns 21:03:18 <Mazth> golder, the bane of the pw gen ^^ 21:03:54 <soloswitch> haha 21:03:59 <soloswitch> what if they rolled sim city, civ and ottd in to one game 21:04:06 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:04:06 <PublicServer> *** Steven joined the game 21:04:09 <soloswitch> it could be one of the most epic games of all time 21:04:18 <Chris_Booth> soloswitch: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_231_-_240#gameid_231 21:04:21 <Chris_Booth> last chaos game 21:04:28 <Chris_Booth> wasn't that bad in the ned 21:04:30 <Chris_Booth> end 21:04:31 <soloswitch> ah 21:04:33 <Chris_Booth> ned XD 21:05:01 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:05:29 <XeryusTC> !rcon exit 21:05:31 <PublicServer> Server has exited 21:05:32 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 21:06:22 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 21:06:22 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 21:06:22 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 21:06:22 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG235 (r24217) | STAGE: Archiving... | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 21:06:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 21:06:28 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009437: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00009437.png 21:06:57 <XeryusTC> !password 21:06:57 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: gripes 21:07:07 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:07:08 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 21:07:33 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:07:36 <XeryusTC> !password 21:07:36 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: gripes 21:07:42 *** dwarf has joined #openttdcoop 21:07:51 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:07:53 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 21:07:53 <PublicServer> Saving game... 21:07:53 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 21:07:58 <PublicServer> Server has exited 21:07:59 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 21:08:24 <Chris_Booth> what nightly we going to? 21:08:57 <Chris_Booth> !dl 21:09:16 <XeryusTC> !getsave https://www.dropbox.com/sm/create/psg236_start.scn 21:09:18 <Webster> Title: Dropbox - Sign in - Simplify your life (at www.dropbox.com) 21:09:29 <Chris_Booth> lol XTC no PS here 21:09:35 <Chris_Booth> ! will not work 21:09:42 <XeryusTC> oh right 21:09:42 * Chris_Booth kicks PublicServer 21:09:47 <Chris_Booth> nope nothing 21:09:52 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 21:09:52 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 21:09:52 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 21:09:52 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG235 (r24217) | STAGE: Archiving... | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 21:09:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 21:09:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009437: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00009437.png 21:09:59 <XeryusTC> wait for it 21:10:03 <Chris_Booth> argh she blows! 21:10:13 <XeryusTC> !getsave https://dl.dropbox.com/s/trlfkvq1ms5q3ve/psg236_start.scn 21:10:14 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: OK :-) 21:10:15 <mfb-> that screenshot is from 235 21:11:23 <soloswitch> lol 21:11:25 <soloswitch> !password 21:11:25 <PublicServer> soloswitch: siting 21:12:00 <soloswitch> argh i need stolen trees grf 21:12:02 <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart (again, try !grf) 21:12:08 <soloswitch> !grf 21:12:08 <PublicServer> soloswitch: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 8.0) 21:12:27 <soloswitch> oh well 21:12:33 <soloswitch> getting late for me 21:12:36 <soloswitch> see you all later 21:12:38 *** soloswitch has quit IRC 21:13:22 <XeryusTC> !getsave https://www.dropbox.com/s/kaqlonae2e4xull/psg236_start.sav 21:13:22 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: OK :-) 21:13:39 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:13:54 <XeryusTC> !password 21:13:54 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: siting 21:14:05 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:14:07 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 21:14:26 <Chris_Booth> XeryusTC: you know you need to !rcon load x 21:14:36 <Chris_Booth> !dl 21:14:36 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x 21:14:36 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r24217 21:14:39 <XeryusTC> i know 21:14:44 <XeryusTC> i do that kind of stuff in pm 21:14:49 <Chris_Booth> !dl win64 21:14:49 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24217/openttd-trunk-r24217-windows-win64.zip 21:14:49 <XeryusTC> !getsave https://www.dropbox.com/s/7l93jr8p6xio8u5/psg236_start2.sav 21:14:50 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: OK :-) 21:14:50 <Webster> Title: Dropbox - psg236_start2.sav (at www.dropbox.com) 21:15:03 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:15:09 <XeryusTC> !password 21:15:09 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: siting 21:15:11 <Chris_Booth> wtf no win64 compile of this nightly 21:15:17 <Chris_Booth> !dl win 21:15:17 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: unknown option "win" 21:15:20 <Chris_Booth> !dl win32 21:15:22 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24217/openttd-trunk-r24217-windows-win32.zip 21:15:23 <XeryusTC> try us.binaries 21:15:29 <Chris_Booth> or win32 21:15:30 <XeryusTC> !rcon exit 21:15:32 <PublicServer> Server has exited 21:15:33 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 21:15:34 <XeryusTC> try us.binaries 21:15:47 <XeryusTC> other mirrors havent synced for some reason 21:16:50 <Chris_Booth> lazy mirrors 21:18:52 <planetmaker> !revision 21:19:07 <XeryusTC> hmm 21:19:08 <Chris_Booth> pm no ps here 21:19:10 <XeryusTC> my savegame seems broken 21:19:11 <planetmaker> err... and you restart the server also, XeryusTC? 21:19:20 <XeryusTC> or ottd doesnt understand it 21:19:24 <planetmaker> or you rely now on others to fix it again? 21:19:28 <XeryusTC> [2012-05-09 23:18:21] dbg: [sl] Unknown savegame type, trying to load it as the buggy format 21:19:28 <XeryusTC> [2012-05-09 23:18:21] dbg: [sl] Game Load Failed 21:19:28 <XeryusTC> Broken savegame - Inconsistent size 21:19:47 <XeryusTC> i know how to restart it, i just needed a more verbose error message 21:20:04 <Chris_Booth> XeryusTC: you have a GRF conflict 21:20:14 <Chris_Booth> check them and load it again 21:20:53 <XeryusTC> hmm 21:21:03 <planetmaker> Chris_Booth: the error message suggests otherwise 21:21:18 <XeryusTC> it doesnt show up in my savegame browser ingame it seems :o 21:21:23 <planetmaker> Maybe PS just needs an update when the savegame was made with newer OpenTTD 21:22:04 <XeryusTC> PS has been updated 21:22:13 <XeryusTC> i tried it with a save with the previous nightly we ran too 21:22:17 <XeryusTC> didnt work either 21:22:24 <XeryusTC> versions are the same now 21:22:58 <XeryusTC> the size of the file seems to be incorrect though :o 21:23:04 <Chris_Booth> how strange map seems fine 21:23:17 <XeryusTC> it is not my map ;) 21:25:04 <dwarf> !password 21:25:06 <Chris_Booth> 2nded 21:26:04 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 21:26:04 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 21:26:04 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 21:26:04 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG235 (r24217) | STAGE: Archiving... | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 21:26:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 21:26:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009437: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00009437.png 21:26:15 <XeryusTC> !getsave https://www.dropbox.com/s/nvje4zrgua4vwqn/psg236_startc.sav 21:26:16 <Webster> Title: Dropbox - psg236_startc.sav (at www.dropbox.com) 21:26:16 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: OK :-) 21:26:37 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:26:37 <KenjiE20> ^ that's not the direct link 21:26:58 <XeryusTC> hmm 21:27:00 <XeryusTC> good point :P 21:27:05 <XeryusTC> !getsave https://dl.dropbox.com/s/nvje4zrgua4vwqn/psg236_startc.sav?dl=1 21:27:06 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: OK :-) 21:27:12 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:27:12 <KenjiE20> probably why it's failing :p 21:27:27 <XeryusTC> might explain why file sizes dont match up 21:28:19 <XeryusTC> !getsave https://dl.dropbox.com/s/nvje4zrgua4vwqn/psg236_startc.sav?dl=1 21:28:21 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: OK :-) 21:29:28 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:29:45 <XeryusTC> seems to work now 21:29:47 <XeryusTC> !password 21:29:47 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: powwow 21:29:59 <XeryusTC> !rcon server_pw 21:29:59 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'server_password' is: 'golder' 21:30:03 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 21:30:03 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:30:17 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:30:20 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 21:30:51 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 21:30:52 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:31:02 <XeryusTC> !auto 21:31:02 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has enabled autopause mode. 21:31:22 <Chris_Booth> why is the password not synced? 21:31:27 <XeryusTC> dunno 21:31:28 <Chris_Booth> and what is the password? 21:31:31 <XeryusTC> it is bugged for some reason 21:31:31 <KenjiE20> hacky mchack hack 21:31:33 <XeryusTC> !restart 21:31:33 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 21:31:51 <Chris_Booth> KenjiE20: isn't he a golfist? 21:32:01 <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely 21:32:01 <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r24217. 21:32:06 <PublicServer> Server has exited 21:32:07 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 21:32:14 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 21:32:14 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 21:32:15 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 21:32:15 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG235 (r24217) | STAGE: Archiving... | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 21:32:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 21:32:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000109C4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000109C4.png 21:32:32 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:32:33 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 21:33:16 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> oil boost? 21:33:31 <XeryusTC> nah 21:33:40 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> :S 21:33:41 <XeryusTC> enabled an option on the industries grf 21:33:48 <XeryusTC> that´s all 21:33:55 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes in stations name by near by industry 21:34:01 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its an old trick 21:35:00 <Chris_Booth> you might want to unpause and enable auto pause for 2 clients 21:35:30 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has enabled autopause mode. 21:35:41 <XeryusTC> !password 21:35:42 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: hither 21:35:46 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 21:35:46 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:35:46 <Chris_Booth> yes it is manual paused 21:35:56 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:35:56 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:35:58 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 21:36:04 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> woo 21:36:53 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I fancy AL10 SML one way loop 21:36:55 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 21:37:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> who is killing industries? 21:37:26 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what? 21:37:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh wait 21:37:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> just weird transparency options 21:37:41 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol 21:37:59 <PublicServer> <mfb> saw a lot of dirt 21:38:02 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol 21:40:17 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> cb: i like your thinking, apart from the sml :P 21:40:52 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I droped the SML and went for a new plan 21:41:55 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 2 4way hubs! 21:42:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> zomfg! 21:42:14 <PublicServer> <mfb> on a 256x1024-map, hmm 21:42:36 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you should see psg09 21:42:44 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it had a LLLxRRR ML on both sides of the map 21:42:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> "no SML" - why did you add this sign? :D 21:42:57 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> with BBHs to LLxRR spurs 21:43:00 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and it had SLHs on that 21:43:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> I know that it fits 21:43:12 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> mfb: did you read my first plan idea 21:43:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> no 21:43:30 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> oh SML loop with TL5 AL10 (snooze fest) 21:43:48 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they are only LL_RR 4 ways 21:43:59 <PublicServer> *** Steven joined the game 21:45:11 <V453000> !password 21:45:11 <PublicServer> V453000: hither 21:45:37 <V453000> !dl win64 21:45:37 <PublicServer> V453000: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24217/openttd-trunk-r24217-windows-win64.zip 21:46:45 *** TWerkhoven[l] has quit IRC 21:46:58 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> even the Class 92 is quite a beast 21:47:22 <V453000> !password 21:47:22 <PublicServer> V453000: suburb 21:47:32 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and we never use Class 92 21:47:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 21:47:35 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 21:47:36 <PublicServer> <Steven> hi 21:47:43 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you think people would not vote for me if I chose it? 21:47:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi V453000 21:47:53 <dwarf> !quickstart 21:48:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we always use 91 21:48:13 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we use 91 or AL10 but not 92 21:48:28 <Mazth> class 91/92? 21:48:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> SML with AL10? how drunk are you? 21:48:31 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:48:32 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 92 scores low on the max speed :o 21:48:43 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> V453000: I was joking 21:48:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> wut 21:48:57 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Maz yes 91 and 92 are different 21:49:11 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 92 might be slow, but it is strong 21:49:12 <Mazth> train type? 21:49:19 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes 21:49:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> dont call him maz, its confusing with mazur 21:49:28 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> British Rail Class 91 and 92 21:49:34 <Mazth> ah I see 21:49:50 <Mazth> it is more pronounced like a mast of a ship :P 21:49:53 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> maybe Mazur should be called Zur 21:50:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> mazth: i got that, but the spelling is nearly the same 21:50:46 <Chris_Booth> @clcalc rail 2 21:50:46 <Webster> Chris_Booth: A rail Curve Length of 2 (3 half tiles) gives a speed of 132km/h or 82mph 21:50:52 <Chris_Booth> @clcalc rail 3 21:50:52 <Webster> Chris_Booth: A rail Curve Length of 3 (5 half tiles) gives a speed of 168km/h or 105mph 21:51:02 <dwarf> !password 21:51:02 <PublicServer> dwarf: suburb 21:51:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> better test it 21:51:06 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that sucks 92 would slow in CL2 21:51:17 <PublicServer> *** dwarf joined the game 21:52:26 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, class 67 sucks 21:53:09 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hm limit is to 82mph? 21:53:23 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not that i know of 21:53:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> especially not since we use metric on the proper side of the planet :P 21:53:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol not the 62 21:54:10 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> okay 132km/h 21:54:20 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you should learn your imperial scale 21:54:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> too lazy to calculate 21:54:39 *** Tray has quit IRC 21:54:41 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 62mph = 100kph 21:54:44 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> all you need to know 21:54:54 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 1 mile = 1.6km 21:54:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and you only need to know that when you watch topgear :P 21:55:13 <Mazth> SI all the way :P 21:55:47 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 90 mph = 40m/s 21:56:14 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 40m/s = 144 km/h 21:56:28 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> this is just rough openttd working though XD 21:57:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm 21:57:40 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i prefer not to use SI irl 21:57:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> mainly because i've grown up on using metric 21:57:57 <PublicServer> <dwarf> yep 21:58:03 *** Rythoka has joined #openttdcoop 21:58:07 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that is why I like imperial 21:58:18 <Mazth> it is mainly because of sience :P 21:58:24 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> all distances have been hammered into me in miles 21:58:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> imperial is nonsensical 21:58:29 <PublicServer> <dwarf> it sucks so much that you have to learn all this mile, feet pounds bullshit living in the US 21:58:39 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you cant easily tell how many inches 7.2 miles is 21:58:45 <PublicServer> <dwarf> not talking about farenheits, that's the worst 21:59:03 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> dwarf: feel sorry for us UK lot 21:59:06 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> while 8.3 km to milimeters is quite simple 21:59:16 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> everything metric apart from cars and roads! 21:59:38 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> UK uses fahrenheit for high temp and celcius for low xD 21:59:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yep 21:59:46 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> in weather forecasts 21:59:52 <PublicServer> <dwarf> really? :D 21:59:54 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes we do 21:59:56 <PublicServer> <dwarf> lmao 22:00:00 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> highs of 90 lows or -2 22:00:06 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> of 22:00:09 <Mazth> mostly this: http://static.lolyard.com/lol/imperial-system.jpg 22:00:25 <Mazth> logics ftw! 22:01:27 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 22:01:30 <XeryusTC> basically, yes 22:01:30 <Rythoka> Here I am! 22:01:44 <Mazth> although base level of 0 C for temp is also arbitrary, find kelvin more logical 22:01:46 <XeryusTC> although i have to disagree on the temperature scale 22:02:15 <XeryusTC> might as well have picked the melting point of swedish steel for 0C 22:02:20 <Rythoka> 0C isn't arbitrary O_O 22:02:27 <Rythoka> It's the freezing point of water :| 22:02:33 <Chris_Booth> yes 22:02:35 <XeryusTC> it´s the melting point of ice technically 22:02:46 <Chris_Booth> and 100C is boiling point at 0m above sea 22:02:50 <Rythoka> Freezing and melting point are synonyms. 22:02:52 <Mazth> see point xeryus; still arbitrary 22:03:00 <XeryusTC> Rythoka: no they´re not 22:03:20 <XeryusTC> freezing point of water is between 0C and -20C depending on how much salt is in it etc 22:03:29 <Chris_Booth> yes 22:03:33 <Chris_Booth> and carbon 22:03:41 <Rythoka> Then you're not freezing water 22:03:46 <Rythoka> You're freezing a solution. 22:03:48 <XeryusTC> distilled water freezes at -2 or -3 unless you add energy at a higher point 22:03:51 <Chris_Booth> you can have supercooled water at -100C 22:04:39 <Chris_Booth> water in clouds can be stupid cold and still be liquid as it has nothing to form around 22:05:15 <Rythoka> Superheating has the same principle! 22:05:22 <Rythoka> See: Deep Fryers 22:05:40 <XeryusTC> water evaporating is weird 22:05:48 <Rythoka> Water is just weird in general 22:06:04 <XeryusTC> it depends on pressure, but also whether it gets flash heated and if it touches an unregular surface 22:06:16 <Rythoka> Wait 22:06:20 <Rythoka> Scratch that 22:06:21 <Chris_Booth> irregular 22:06:22 <mfb-> celsius is nice for everyday life 22:06:26 <Rythoka> Matter is weird* 22:06:48 <Mazth> I still go with Kelvin...0K can't get colder than that , seems logical start of scale 22:06:53 <Chris_Booth> its good from making tea and coffee, 98C for coffee 22:07:00 <XeryusTC> Chris_Booth: i knew there was something wrong with ¨an unregular¨, thanks :) 22:07:06 <mfb-> there is a temperature where water and ice exist in equilibrium at the same time 22:07:16 <XeryusTC> 0.01C by definition 22:07:20 <mfb-> while this is pressure-dependent, the temperature is actually well-defined (for fixed p) 22:07:29 <XeryusTC> it can exist in all 3 states at the same time at that temp 22:07:36 <mfb-> oh well, it depends on the isotope composition :D 22:07:50 <mfb-> triple point eliminates this pressure problem :) 22:07:52 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (leaving) 22:08:04 <Mazth> and rhis is why sience is awesome :) 22:08:07 <Chris_Booth> Kelvin is stupid since you can't have -1k 22:08:14 <mfb-> that is nice 22:08:17 <mfb-> it starts at 0 22:08:29 <Chris_Booth> they think it starts at 0 22:08:29 <XeryusTC> now i´ve said 3 phases we should also include plasma and the other 2 phases :P 22:08:36 <Rythoka> Speaking of that, I've seen CO2 at it's triple-point 22:08:36 <Mazth> why would you want to have -K? 22:08:38 <mfb-> no, it starts at 0 by definition 22:08:41 <Rythoka> That was really interesting 22:08:44 <Chris_Booth> if the find something colder than -273.2k they will just move it 22:08:48 <mfb-> no 22:08:53 <mfb-> this is not possible 22:08:53 <dwarf> no 22:08:56 <XeryusTC> no 22:09:04 <dwarf> that's absoute and won't change 22:09:08 <Chris_Booth> do we know that for sure? 22:09:10 <mfb-> yes 22:09:12 <Rythoka> Yes 22:09:12 <XeryusTC> yes 22:09:31 <mfb-> at 0K, everything is in its ground state. this is the lowest state by definition 22:09:32 <Chris_Booth> see this is why I fail A level Physics 22:09:44 <Rythoka> This is chemistry 22:09:47 <Rythoka> Not physics 22:09:47 <dwarf> but there is negative temperature, but it actually corresponds to extremely hot an only happens in collapsing supernovae 22:09:50 <Rythoka> That's your problem. 22:09:52 <XeryusTC> this is still physics :P 22:09:53 <Mazth> never say no...we still have quantum physics 22:10:05 <mfb-> dwarf and other inversions :) 22:10:14 <mfb-> but it is not really "cold" in that sense 22:10:23 <Chris_Booth> boom 22:10:27 <Chris_Booth> there goes my mind 22:10:29 <Chris_Booth> now to bed 22:10:32 <Chris_Booth> XD 22:10:40 <dwarf> :D gn 22:10:44 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 22:10:44 <mfb-> you can assign negative temperatures to laser systems, for example 22:10:47 <XeryusTC> but as temp is defined to be the amplitute of the vibration of atoms, and atoms dont vibrate at absolute 0 you cant go any lower :P 22:10:50 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 22:10:56 <mfb-> as an energy reduction increases entropy 22:11:03 <Rythoka> Negative vibration! 22:11:12 <Rythoka> It absorbs kinectic energy 22:11:15 <Rythoka> huehuehue 22:11:29 <Mazth> ^^ 22:11:31 <Mazth> hehe 22:11:40 <XeryusTC> but ofcourse there is still energy in stuff at 0K :P 22:11:44 <dwarf> yep, at negative temperature adding energy decreases entropy 22:11:54 <Rythoka> Yeah 22:11:57 <Rythoka> Ground state energy 22:12:00 <Rythoka> or w/e 22:12:07 <Rythoka> At that point though, EVERYTHING COMBINES! 22:12:16 <Rythoka> Actually, slightly above it, but still 22:12:25 <XeryusTC> and we all know that you can extract zero point energy! 22:13:06 <dwarf> :D 22:13:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> why do we get an "ultimate balanced network" without secondaries? 22:13:34 <Rythoka> Speaking of Bose-Einstein Condensates 22:13:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> more oil than iron? here you have unbalanced parts 22:13:49 <Rythoka> Aren't they basically just giant nuclei? 22:13:56 <mfb-> no 22:13:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> it doesnt make sense to me either mfb 22:14:36 <XeryusTC> because you dont get 300 trains all using the same route 22:14:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> you dont have to get that with secondaries either 22:15:04 <mfb-> just let them drop at several points 22:15:06 <XeryusTC> yes, but it is less likely 22:15:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> I bet coal + wood is strongest end here 22:15:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> not only because it is 2 cargoes but also because wood has lowest capacity wagons 22:16:01 <XeryusTC> probably :P 22:16:03 <Rythoka> Uhm 22:16:10 <Rythoka> My server list won't load 22:16:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> so I would say it wont be quite balanced :p 22:16:14 <Rythoka> Is the IP on the wiki? 22:16:16 <XeryusTC> i´m still thinking of which 2 cargoes go best together 22:16:31 <mfb-> [00:16:32] * Dns resolved ps.openttdcoop.org to 91.198.87.142 22:16:46 <Rythoka> :o 22:16:52 <PublicServer> *** Steven has left the game (connection lost) 22:17:25 <Rythoka> Oh, I need to get the nightly version 22:17:26 <Rythoka> :S 22:18:20 <Rythoka> Are there really any differences between the stable and nightly versions? 22:18:58 <mfb-> nightly versions are sometimes unstable 22:19:19 <mfb-> like "chatting -> instant disconnect" :D 22:19:46 <XeryusTC> !ip 22:19:46 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ps.openttdcoop.org 22:20:03 *** Razaekel has joined #openttdcoop 22:20:04 <Rythoka> lol 22:20:05 <dwarf> !password 22:20:05 <PublicServer> dwarf: binder 22:20:22 <PublicServer> *** dwarf joined the game 22:21:14 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh 22:21:16 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i forgot about grain 22:21:44 *** Steven has quit IRC 22:22:52 *** Hazzard has joined #openttdcoop 22:23:35 *** Razaekal has quit IRC 22:24:54 <Mazth> !pw 22:24:59 <Rythoka> There's a bunch of newgrf's that I can't download from the openttd newgrf menu 22:25:07 <Rythoka> Do I have to install those seperately or something? 22:25:09 <Mazth> !password 22:25:09 <PublicServer> Mazth: binder 22:25:23 <mfb-> there is a newgrf pack somewhere 22:25:27 <mfb-> @quickstart 22:25:28 <PublicServer> *** Mazth joined the game 22:25:28 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 22:25:31 <mfb-> should be there 22:25:58 <Mazth> !wiki grf 22:25:58 <PublicServer> Mazth: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Main_Page 22:26:07 <mfb-> :p 22:26:25 <Mazth> then the oldfashioned way 22:26:26 <Mazth> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/GRF 22:26:50 <Rythoka> 20 mb grf pack O_O 22:26:59 <XeryusTC> !grf 22:26:59 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 8.0) 22:27:28 <Mazth> public and I are still getting to know eachother ;) 22:28:55 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (leaving) 22:31:19 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 22:31:41 *** mfb- has quit IRC 22:33:50 <Rythoka> So, how do I install these grfs I downloaded? 22:34:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> openttd readme :p 22:37:21 <Rythoka> !password 22:37:21 <PublicServer> Rythoka: flails 22:37:34 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (leaving) 22:37:34 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 22:37:44 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 22:37:46 <PublicServer> *** Rythoka joined the game 22:38:22 <PublicServer> <Rythoka> :o 22:39:16 <PublicServer> <Rythoka> Oh my god. Where are the trees? 22:39:31 <Mazth> @slowstart 22:39:31 <Webster> Read everything on the wiki, and I mean everything 22:39:44 <Rythoka> wat 22:39:57 <Mazth> there u go ryth the answer to all your questions :P 22:42:27 <Mazth> u guys gonna cheat all the money in again? 22:42:50 <PublicServer> <Rythoka> I'm just here to watch :o 22:43:12 <Mazth> me too :) am also just new 22:43:57 <Mazth> trying to practice stuff in sp and pick up some new things from spectating 22:44:30 *** dwarf has quit IRC 22:44:32 <Mazth> how long have you been playing ottd? 22:48:00 <Rythoka> Eh 22:48:01 <Rythoka> A while 22:48:06 <Rythoka> But never anything planned 22:48:20 <Rythoka> Just willy nilly tracks here and there 22:48:26 <Rythoka> And airplanes because they're OP 22:48:52 <Mazth> yh they bring in the money easily 22:49:47 *** Rythoka has quit IRC 22:49:54 *** Rythoka has joined #openttdcoop 22:51:46 <Mazth> I was looking for some tutorials and found ottdcoop and was like, these guys are pro! looks so much fun :) 22:52:31 <Mazth> so interesting to see what can be done with the seemingly simple game mechanics 22:52:36 <Rythoka> Yeah 22:53:00 <Rythoka> The finished tracks 22:53:05 <Rythoka> So... complex 22:54:00 <Mazth> pfft yh I came in on the last days of the game before last...t was crazy 22:54:17 <Rythoka> More people need to get on now so I can watch :3 22:54:44 <Mazth> they're just proposing plans :P 22:54:55 <Mazth> !players 22:54:57 <PublicServer> Mazth: Client 40 is Rythoka, a spectator 22:54:57 <PublicServer> Mazth: Client 34 is Mazth, a spectator 22:54:57 <PublicServer> Mazth: Client 16 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (Dikke Tetten Inc) 22:55:29 <PublicServer> <Rythoka> But the only person on other than you or me is the v453000 bro 22:55:52 <Mazth> V u need a second? 22:55:56 <PublicServer> <Rythoka> I wonder how long these games normally last :o 22:56:36 <Mazth> until they are complete/everyone is satisfied 22:56:47 <Mazth> you can see the actuall running times in the archive 22:57:32 <PublicServer> <Rythoka> What if I MAKE A PLAN MUAHAHA 22:58:56 <Mazth> u can propose...after everyone who wants to make a plan has done so ppl can vote 23:03:37 <planetmaker> Typical playing time is between one and two weeks 23:03:51 <planetmaker> plan construction and votes take one or two days 23:04:26 <Mazth> MM is not done anymore? 23:04:38 <PublicServer> *** Mazth has left the game (leaving) 23:13:45 *** th_gergo has joined #openttdcoop 23:20:37 <PublicServer> *** Rythoka has left the game (leaving) 23:29:09 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 23:40:46 *** pugi has quit IRC 23:47:42 *** Rhamphoryncus has quit IRC 23:50:51 *** Big_Meech_ has joined #openttdcoop 23:50:57 <Big_Meech_> hi 23:51:19 *** BiG_MeEcH has quit IRC 23:55:30 <Big_Meech_> hi 23:55:36 <Big_Meech_> lol