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Log for #openttdcoop on 3rd November 2012:
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01:42:11  <drdinosaur> V453000:: Are you watching MLG
01:43:55  <Sylf> o_O
01:44:10  <drdinosaur> O_o
01:44:54  <drdinosaur> I'm just setting up my guitar :)
01:45:02  <drdinosaur> You have to undo the neck plate to adjust the truss rod
01:47:12  <Sylf> depends on the guitar, but sure :)
01:47:50  <drdinosaur> It's a vintage styled strat
01:48:43  <Sylf> I've never owned a Fender :P
01:49:53  <drdinosaur> Fender's are brilliant :D
01:50:00  <drdinosaur> They are the practical mans guitar
01:50:57  <drdinosaur> I have a Squire, a Fender and a G&L
01:51:44  <Sylf> I only play bass...  of which, I just have ...
01:51:57  <Sylf> name escapes me, even though they're sitting in front of me >_<
01:52:08  <drdinosaur> :p
01:52:53  <Sylf> Ibanez.  That's it.
01:53:03  <Sylf> And a generic brand 6-string
01:53:27  <drdinosaur> With a mega thin neck
01:53:37  <drdinosaur> ibanez are known for metal guitars
01:54:18  <Sylf> Ibanez bass necks are thin too.
01:54:59  <Sylf> It's about time to get a good jazzbass tho
01:55:16  <Sylf> And finally be a Fender owner :)
01:55:17  <drdinosaur> Squire Classic Vibe, or Squire Vintage Modified
01:56:00  <drdinosaur> classic vibe has a glossy neck, and vintage frets
01:56:22  <drdinosaur> vintage modifed has matte neck with jumbo frets, but has worse bridge and pickups
01:56:39  <drdinosaur> Both are the highest end squires :D
01:57:24  <drdinosaur> Or you could just get an American standard :)
01:57:26  <Sylf> "high end squire" sounds funny :P
01:57:36  <Sylf> But I've heard squire actually is good
01:57:38  <drdinosaur> Hey, they are better than MIM standards :)
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02:01:11  <drdinosaur> I know V453000 likes Day[9]
02:01:24  <drdinosaur> and Day[9] is commentating on a SC2 torunament, I thought he might be interested
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02:04:11  <Sylf> only if he was awake
02:05:37  <drdinosaur> where does he live?
02:06:57  <Sylf> In Czech
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02:10:42  <drdinosaur> oops
02:10:47  <dr-dinosaur> I did it again
02:10:49  <dr-dinosaur> :p
02:10:52  <drdinosaur> :D
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02:28:14  <Dom_> !password
02:28:14  <PublicServer> Dom_: remake
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03:30:55  <dwarf> !password
03:30:55  <PublicServer> dwarf: frisky
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07:30:36  <Vinnie_nl> !dl osx
07:30:36  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24636/openttd-trunk-r24636-macosx-universal.zip
07:30:50  <Vinnie_nl> !playercount
07:30:50  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: Number of players: 0 (0 spectators)
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08:17:47  <GLAD0S> !password
08:17:47  <PublicServer> GLAD0S: jelled
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08:18:11  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> hi
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08:20:22  <GLAD0S> !password
08:20:22  <PublicServer> GLAD0S: jelled
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08:22:29  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> why isnt the game starting?
08:25:04  <Tray> The game requires at least two logged in poeple to start
08:25:10  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> oh...
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08:25:24  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yay!
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08:25:28  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> cheers
08:29:26  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wtf?
08:29:36  <PublicServer> <Tray> beg your pardon?
08:29:40  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> oh...
08:29:46  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> srry
08:29:50  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> something strange
08:30:04  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i mean wth
08:30:44  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ...
08:31:02  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
08:31:26  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> how do you delete small parts of a train station?
08:31:41  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ur not alloud to fund industries
08:31:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ...
08:31:51  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> xxxx
08:32:22  <PublicServer> <Tray> if you select building a station tile and click on that bulldozericon you can destroy parts of the station
08:32:28  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
08:32:43  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> thanks
08:37:17  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> are we at train limit?
08:37:19  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> 1,555
08:37:53  <PublicServer> <Tray> You can look up in advanced settings -> vehicles
08:38:08  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah were at limit
08:40:40  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> is admin on?
08:42:14  <PublicServer> <Tray> the network needs some fixes first
08:43:26  <PublicServer> <Tray> afk
08:52:33  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> where does it need fixes
08:52:51  <PublicServer> <Tray> BBH 04 is jamming
08:56:52  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what would happen if someone upscaled the trains  and stations to 7 blocks long
08:56:58  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> would the line still cope?
08:57:45  <PublicServer> <Tray> We mostyl use the same trainlength as some construction depend on it, like prios, mainstations, reverser ...
08:57:53  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ook
08:58:12  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but where in the line needs fixing?
08:58:46  <PublicServer> <Tray> it just needs one more line
09:01:50  <Vinnie_nl> !password
09:01:50  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: sobers
09:02:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hello
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09:02:29  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> look at msh 04
09:02:37  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ah its gone now
09:02:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> hu
09:02:49  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> hi
09:02:55  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> we reached train limit
09:03:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> I can't change that
09:03:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> guest like you
09:03:14  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i know
09:03:44  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> im trying to find a flaw in the line to fix...
09:03:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> proving tricky
09:04:25  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH04 needs 4 exits at North?
09:04:29  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> is that it?
09:04:52  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> guys look at bbh 02
09:05:10  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wow
09:05:16  <PublicServer> <Tray> yeah it's jammning back from BBH 04
09:05:36  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah
09:05:42  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but we cant fix that
09:05:49  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wait...
09:06:11  <PublicServer> <Tray> Why can't we fix that?
09:07:02  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> a trains really blocked
09:07:17  <PublicServer> <Tray> sign it please
09:07:57  <PublicServer> <Tray> it's intended
09:08:03  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> really?
09:08:22  <PublicServer> <Tray> this is called a prio, it favours traffic from one side other another
09:08:40  <PublicServer> <Tray> thus the 'blocked' train can only join the other line when it has space to do so
09:08:51  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> whuch there isnt
09:09:10  <PublicServer> <Tray> that's why we need a 4th line
09:09:12  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> there is now
09:09:28  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> at mthe combo?
09:09:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> q
09:09:53  <PublicServer> <Tray> the whole exit needs an upgrade to 4 lines
09:10:08  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah
09:10:14  <PublicServer> <Tray> currently there are three lines to choose, if we add one line to the merger it runs much more fluid again
09:10:16  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it has way more than it did
09:10:23  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but how could we do that?
09:10:38  <PublicServer> <Tray> well
09:10:53  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> is there a seperate line for them to use whilst the lines being worked on?
09:11:11  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> that could temporarily hold this massive load of trains
09:11:13  <PublicServer> <Tray> it's a 2+3 -> 4 lines construction so basically one has two different approches to upgrade it from 2+3->3
09:11:25  <PublicServer> <Tray> either a soft one by adding the lines while trains running through it
09:11:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> how would we do it
09:11:53  <PublicServer> <Tray> or destroy most parts of the old construction and build it from scratch wich results into a much cleaner solution almost always
09:12:04  <PublicServer> <Tray> I prefer the destrox everything, make it bigger version
09:12:11  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but the trains have to use a different route
09:12:14  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah
09:12:25  <PublicServer> <Tray> but currently I don't have enough time to do so
09:12:49  <PublicServer> <Tray> so I just leave a comment saying that the rails need to be connected and going on with some mre simple stuff
09:12:57  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
09:13:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> destroy what?
09:13:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ???
09:13:48  <PublicServer> <Tray> the 3+2 -> 3 merger of the western exit of BBH 04
09:13:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> im gonna get 4 exits there
09:14:24  <PublicServer> <Tray> at !needs 4th there only three lines.
09:14:27  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wait couldt we just make an overflow line?
09:14:53  <PublicServer> <Tray> what do you mean by overflow line?
09:15:21  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> a line so that when the main lines clogged, they kisy take a seperate one
09:15:43  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so you just added the 4th line
09:15:57  <PublicServer> <Tray> what' the difference to adding a 4th line?
09:16:12  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> that lines another main line
09:16:27  <PublicServer> <Tray> a 4th line is another mainline too?
09:16:42  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but the overflow line could take stuff from industries
09:16:53  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> like that coal mine
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09:17:48  <PublicServer> <Tray> Well we stick to some kind of general network idea.
09:17:54  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but those main lines are running at full capacity atm
09:17:56  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
09:18:14  <PublicServer> <Tray> industries are connected to sidelines are connected to mainlines are connected to main stations
09:18:36  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
09:18:38  <PublicServer> <Tray> there were some chaos games wich basically were about building anything to make it work
09:19:00  <PublicServer> <Tray> but they ended in a chaotic mess wich results into massive reconstruction of network parts
09:19:17  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what did?
09:19:19  <PublicServer> <Tray> thus chaos games were basically banned from PSG
09:19:43  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> oh
09:19:55  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> understandably
09:20:29  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> we need more lumber pickup
09:20:36  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> not enough trains are going there
09:20:46  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> there 1500 on station
09:20:50  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> and getting more
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09:21:43  <PublicServer> <Bassals> hello!
09:21:43  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> hi
09:22:49  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> does t need another line, or does it need to be quicker at prioritising trains?
09:23:39  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> how do you make a priority system where one line has priority?
09:24:05  <PublicServer> <Bassals> what do you mean?
09:24:33  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S>  go to signs !needs connection
09:25:11  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> have you got it?
09:25:29  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> are you there
09:26:00  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I am
09:26:15  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> how do you make it so the exsisting
09:26:16  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> AFK
09:26:22  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> srry gtg AFK
09:26:25  <PublicServer> <Bassals> okay
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09:43:52  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> back
09:44:26  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> are we going to make fourth line yet?
09:44:40  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> oh ok
09:44:51  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> your doing the thing near signal fix
09:44:57  <PublicServer> <Bassals> i don't know
09:44:59  <PublicServer> <Bassals> yes
09:45:01  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> you caught 2 trains on that linx
09:45:03  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> line
09:45:35  <PublicServer> <Bassals> where?
09:46:01  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> thats 90 degrees wont work
09:46:19  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> MASSIVE JAM
09:46:33  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> its moving
09:47:51  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> would you need two bridges
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09:49:51  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what are you trying to do?
09:50:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 4th
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09:50:08  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
09:50:20  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I'm not sure where are you looking at
09:50:22  <PublicServer> <Bassals> :-D
09:50:28  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> at MSH 01
09:50:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> here
09:50:50  <PublicServer> <Bassals> okay
09:51:22  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> whoops
09:51:24  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> LOL
09:51:42  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> thats one of the main lines
09:51:46  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> be quick
09:51:50  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah
09:52:09  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> that looks good
09:52:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i have been disconnecting mainlines for 30 minutes
09:52:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not so quick :P
09:52:38  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> 0h
09:52:40  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I think you are quick
09:52:48  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it loooks efficient
09:53:07  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> do entry signal give priority to the main line they are going on to?
09:53:25  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> cool
09:56:19  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> the lines getting less clogged
09:56:33  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wow
09:56:51  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> big jam on BBH 04
09:57:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> continuing on to SLH 05
09:57:29  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> priblem is !here
09:59:04  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> we need a different going south that doesnt cross !here
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10:01:51  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> BBH 10 seems really empty
10:05:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> whats North
10:05:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> left or right to?
10:05:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> top
10:05:55  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> imagine how cool this network would look with maglev
10:06:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> worse
10:06:09  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ???
10:06:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> bad acceleration
10:06:13  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> why bad
10:06:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 60 tiles before topspeed
10:06:25  <PublicServer> <Bassals> longer prios
10:06:35  <PublicServer> <Bassals> but faster max speed
10:06:38  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah
10:07:33  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> the chimera has fast accelaration time
10:07:45  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> the acceleration time is same for all trains isnt it?
10:08:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no
10:08:30  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
10:08:31  <Maraxus> !password
10:08:31  <PublicServer> Maraxus: lopped
10:08:42  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but chimera has 20,000 hp
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10:08:48  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
10:08:54  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> hi
10:08:56  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you need TE for acceleration
10:09:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hp is for max speed and slowdowns on hills
10:09:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hello
10:09:12  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
10:09:24  <PublicServer> <Bassals> also if you need to accelerate into a higher max speed obviously it will take more time
10:09:54  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wait...-x
10:10:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> So we are ready to expand BBH04
10:10:02  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> damn
10:10:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but who dares?
10:10:06  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> nevermnid
10:10:16  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah
10:10:39  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> where would line four connect to?
10:11:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i would do a simple expand only the merger
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10:13:08  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wow
10:13:57  <PublicServer> <Bassals> Vinnie will expand bbh4
10:14:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what
10:14:05  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> lol
10:14:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> he kills me if i do
10:14:21  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ???
10:14:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and the West line isnt done
10:15:19  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wow the main lines now actually getting a bit clogged
10:15:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> is anyone building?
10:15:57  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> nope
10:16:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so just watching :(
10:16:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ill help where i can but i not too good
10:16:30  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> MSH 02
10:16:36  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
10:16:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we need a 4th till there
10:17:13  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I just connected it to MSH6
10:17:23  <PublicServer> <Bassals> :-P
10:17:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> till MSH 02, I think
10:17:53  <PublicServer> <Bassals> yes I did the easiest part
10:18:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> must be done before BBH04
10:18:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cant connect to an unfinished track
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10:19:28  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ...
10:20:08  <PublicServer> *** Bassals joined the game
10:21:04  <PublicServer> <Bassals> wow
10:21:22  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I'm trying this zbase, it's really weird
10:21:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what is zbase?
10:21:55  <PublicServer> <Bassals> alternative graphics
10:22:05  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> >>>
10:22:07  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ???
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10:25:28  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> OH
10:25:35  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so thats how you use combo signals
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10:26:09  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i wish they would release a 32pp full newgrf baseset
10:26:29  <bassals> I wish a lot of things xD
10:32:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> looks nice
10:32:49  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> any ideas for !needs connection?
10:32:51  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah
10:33:13  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> where does it need to go?
10:33:27  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I understand it needs to go till msh2
10:33:41  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> kk
10:34:11  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> are we making a separate line?
10:34:17  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> powerplant is in the way - else it could be done relatively easy
10:34:27  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> powerstation that is
10:34:54  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> like that?
10:35:12  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> no there needs to be four lines
10:36:37  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> would that work?
10:36:52  <PublicServer> <Bassals> no, cl
10:36:55  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> no - too many short curves
10:37:37  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ???
10:37:39  <PublicServer> <Bassals> anyways that's not the intention I think
10:37:40  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> how about that?
10:37:51  <PublicServer> <Bassals> it's still cl2
10:38:01  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> =
10:38:16  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> there
10:39:36  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> how many lines?
10:40:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ahhh
10:40:34  <PublicServer> <Bassals> ?
10:40:45  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> does that work
10:41:24  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> short answer is that it doesn't
10:41:35  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i dont get what i need to do
10:42:26  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> you did read the wiki and watch some of our old savegames?
10:42:32  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> no...
10:42:54  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> should i have?
10:43:04  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> doing that would explain to you a lot of the concepts we are using
10:43:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok what part of the wiki
10:43:31  <GLAD0S> tell meh
10:44:06  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> tell
10:44:09  <GLAD0S> ,meh
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10:44:12  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> there is a tutorial savegame, which can give some pointers
10:44:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ...
10:44:20  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok
10:44:26  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> how big is the tutorial
10:44:36  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> where is it?
10:44:50  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it sounds useful
10:45:17  <bassals> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Tutorial_Savegame
10:45:25  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> cheers
10:45:41  <PublicServer> <Bassals> in this case
10:45:52  <PublicServer> <Bassals> it's easier to just follow the merge
10:46:06  <PublicServer> <Bassals> and expand it the same way it works now
10:46:09  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I think
10:46:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ill see you soon
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10:47:25  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> asses
10:47:35  <PublicServer> <Bassals> bribing?
10:49:34  <PublicServer> <Bassals> are you doing the !needs connection?
10:49:44  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> trying to
10:54:44  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I guess the trains right now are not selecting the leftmost lane  because of vinnie?
10:54:48  <PublicServer> <Bassals> doing stuff on msh2?
10:54:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> should be fixed
10:55:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but about 2 min ago i did kill 2 mainlines if that might cause some problems
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10:57:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> SLH 02?
10:57:28  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> looking at it
11:01:34  <bassals> !ping
11:01:34  <PublicServer> bassals: pong
11:07:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> prio is wrong
11:07:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> /broken
11:07:48  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> ah
11:10:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 5 lines?
11:10:51  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> no - removing the CL
11:11:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i must be missing it where is it?
11:11:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> S bend
11:11:34  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> ok
11:12:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nice
11:12:53  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> :)
11:13:47  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I guess now it's time to do bbh4?
11:14:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you dare to touch it?
11:14:17  <PublicServer> <Bassals> no XD
11:16:36  <PublicServer> <Bassals> i think it's nicer without the S in the ML
11:17:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> I see how
11:17:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but if i do he will kill me
11:17:46  <PublicServer> <Bassals> v?
11:17:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah
11:18:08  <PublicServer> <Bassals> will he be able to locate you?
11:18:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no he will send a 1000 trains to me to ride over my head
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11:23:45  <sturmi> !password
11:23:45  <PublicServer> sturmi: scythe
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11:24:01  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> heya
11:24:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
11:24:07  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
11:24:13  <PublicServer> <Bassals> hello
11:24:30  <GLAD0S> !password
11:24:30  <PublicServer> GLAD0S: pigged
11:24:39  <GLAD0S> coming back
11:24:47  <PublicServer> <Bassals> hello
11:24:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> anyone else wanna take the credit if i touch BBH04
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11:24:58  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > here i am
11:25:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> volonteers?
11:25:11  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > what do you mean... take the credit?
11:25:25  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> lol
11:25:25  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> instead of my name, you sign it with yours
11:25:36  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > why>
11:25:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> fear
11:25:45  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> jsut say yes :D
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11:27:27  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> any building going on?
11:28:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lol we might need sloped climbing
11:29:03  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ?
11:29:05  <PublicServer> <Bassals> what is that?
11:29:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> break a hill into timy steps
11:29:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so the acceleration doesnt get worse
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11:35:43  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> I did it
11:35:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now im gonna hide
11:35:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya later
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11:36:09  <PublicServer> <Bassals> bye
11:36:15  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cya
11:36:23  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu
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12:08:23  <PublicServer> <Bassals> sturmi are you here?
12:08:29  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yep
12:08:43  <PublicServer> <Bassals> where are you playing?
12:08:53  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> meswsin with bbh09
12:09:25  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> *messing
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12:27:20  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> done
12:27:42  <Vinnie_nl> !password
12:27:42  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: deride
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12:27:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnieq> holla
12:28:00  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hey vin
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12:28:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> anything new?
12:28:46  <PublicServer> <Bassals> about what?
12:28:48  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i hacked a third Lane into bbh09
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12:29:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> I like hacking
12:29:17  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nothbount still missing tho
12:29:57  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> MSH07 needs work
12:30:51  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cu later, lunchtime
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12:31:03  <PublicServer> <Bassals> bye
12:32:43  <PublicServer> <Bassals> it does not look like
12:32:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> then lets use it to fix MSH 07
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12:38:17  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oops
12:41:30  <PublicServer> <Bassals> i'm sorry hahahha
12:41:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :P
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12:46:09  <GLAD0S>  !password
12:46:09  <PublicServer> GLAD0S: typist
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12:46:27  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > hi!
12:46:29  <PublicServer> <Bassals> hello
12:46:31  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
12:47:05  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > w
12:47:08  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > what r u guys doing?
12:47:43  <PublicServer> <Bassals> msh7
12:49:48  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > so the train limit hasnt been highered
12:50:32  <PublicServer> <Bassals> are you op Vinnie?
12:50:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no
12:51:04  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > whos going to make the fourth line
12:51:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> smaller :)
12:51:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > ???
12:51:51  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > where are you all
12:52:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> MSH 07
12:52:13  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I guess V45300
12:52:23  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > kk
12:52:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> he said he would kill anyone that touched BBH04
12:52:56  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > why?
12:53:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> he didn't say why
12:53:12  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > LOL
12:53:26  <PublicServer> <Bassals> but I don't think he actually has the means to do that
12:53:32  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > ???
12:53:58  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I mean to kill someone that might live in another continent
12:54:24  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > is he in america?
12:54:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> spain isnt that far away
12:54:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> CZ
12:55:03  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > why disconnect on purpose?
12:55:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> idk why
12:55:29  <PublicServer> <Bassals> like 100km away from here
12:55:35  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > why disconnect then?
12:55:45  <PublicServer> <Bassals> (I'm sort of kidding)
12:55:52  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > i reconnectted
12:56:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> or is that a possible 3rd?
12:57:12  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I'm not really following the conversation
12:57:18  <PublicServer> <Bassals> what lane is disconnected?
12:57:36  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > i reconnected the one going to oil drop
12:58:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > at the sign !her
12:58:57  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I can see you don't need to keep doing that
12:58:59  <PublicServer> <Bassals> hhahahaha
12:59:05  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > ???
12:59:53  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > should we make the trains replace to T.I.M and then back again?
13:00:12  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > to stop getting all the messages
13:00:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> turn of messages
13:00:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> go to news on the toolbar
13:00:46  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > ?????????
13:00:52  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > oh ok
13:01:07  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I still have some messages enabled, like crashes and that
13:01:41  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > `
13:02:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we need to see if we can !double this one
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13:03:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> or find something else to do
13:04:27  <PublicServer> <Bassals> did you do !eh?
13:04:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah
13:05:09  <PublicServer> <Bassals> does it have a point?
13:05:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> looks like it doesnt
13:09:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> great
13:09:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> more jams
13:09:44  <V453000> !password
13:09:44  <PublicServer> V453000: gripes
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13:09:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
13:10:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
13:10:23  <PublicServer> <Bassals> hello
13:11:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think my brain liquified yesterday
13:11:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> back later
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13:15:49  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > i
13:16:11  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > back
13:16:13  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > had lunch
13:16:52  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > guys do any of you have the zbase 32bpp baseset?
13:17:37  <bassals> I tried it before
13:17:45  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > why u on irc chat
13:17:50  <bassals> but it's too weird for me
13:17:57  <PublicServer> <Bassals> yes
13:19:03  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > yay! £10,000,000,000
13:19:17  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > and 402,000,000
13:19:17  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets kill half of it
13:19:23  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > ???
13:19:29  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > can i help anyone
13:20:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now we got 8 :P
13:20:10  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > should i expand the coal drop exit?
13:20:20  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I have it in euros...
13:20:30  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > WOW
13:20:38  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > u killed 3,000,000,000
13:20:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ^^
13:20:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> relocate HQ
13:20:48  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > XD
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13:20:59  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > why does that kill money?
13:21:17  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it cost like 1 or 2% of all your money to relocate
13:21:25  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> you need to pay the ppl who build the new HQ :D
13:21:27  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > lol
13:21:34  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > i just tried
13:22:11  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > should i expand the coal drop exit?
13:22:20  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> no need to do it
13:22:30  <PublicServer> <Bassals> maybe
13:22:34  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > then what should i do?
13:22:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> MSH 05
13:23:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it joins 4 lanes into 2 before steel pickup
13:23:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and that join jams
13:23:14  <PublicServer> <Bassals> I'm leaving
13:23:16  <PublicServer> <Bassals> to eat
13:23:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > where
13:23:20  <PublicServer> <Bassals> goodbye
13:23:22  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > put sign where
13:23:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya
13:23:29  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu
13:23:31  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > bye
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13:23:35  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > ok
13:24:05  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > so speed it up?
13:24:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no split it
13:24:35  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > ok
13:25:01  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > ok
13:25:41  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > i see...
13:25:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> tip, work backwards
13:25:58  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > ok
13:26:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> start at the end of a line not the beginning
13:26:30  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > gtg
13:26:32  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > srry
13:26:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> np
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13:32:23  <BenJTotterdell> !password
13:32:23  <PublicServer> BenJTotterdell: dunked
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13:36:26  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> fixed the jam incase anyone was wondering
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13:37:36  <GLAD0S> !password
13:37:36  <PublicServer> GLAD0S: dunked
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13:39:54  <kero> hi here :)
13:40:03  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > hi
13:40:08  <GLAD0S> hi
13:40:20  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> Hey
13:40:30  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thank you, whoever did other join
13:40:36  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> np
13:41:35  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > guys look at coal drop
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13:41:56  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> what about it?
13:42:31  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > would this system work
13:45:13  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > is the coal drop getting slightly overwhelmed?
13:45:39  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> i dunno
13:45:45  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> kinda a slow entry
13:45:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ohh
13:46:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no one looked at jam in Oil?
13:46:43  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> i tihnk it is just balancing
13:46:43  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > wth
13:46:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > thats strange
13:46:54  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> cause there was a jam which i fixed
13:47:04  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> maybe its not completely recovered
13:47:04  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> idk
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13:47:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i had a lost train blocking a platform
13:47:27  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > recoverd now
13:47:53  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > but look if i do this
13:48:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets blame me for that jam
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13:49:13  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oil entry is jamming since ever
13:49:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i know
13:49:25  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > there
13:49:25  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its unjamming
13:49:33  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> thats what i meant with MSH needs work :D
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13:50:17  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > look what happens at !look here if i take away and put the track
13:50:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what kind of work do you think?
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13:50:53  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> it will jam
13:51:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> trains stops for itself
13:51:07  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > yeah
13:51:11  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > i see
13:51:21  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> leave coal drop as it is...  no need to expand there
13:51:28  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > kk
13:52:26  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > theres lots of unused coal mines here
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13:52:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH09 needs 3rd now
13:52:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that jams the oil exit
13:53:08  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> 3rd to north?
13:53:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
13:53:38  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> but that needs a third at bbh 08 as well
13:53:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah thats the fun
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13:54:06  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > is there anymore hub stations that need sorting out?
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13:54:23  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > x
13:54:25  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok, I'll try my luck at 09
13:54:57  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > theres not many trains at bbh 05
13:55:11  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > just as i say that they all start coming in
13:56:09  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > can i make some coal stations?
13:56:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sure
13:56:42  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > but we need to ask admin to make train limit higher
13:58:29  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > can you higher train limit?
13:59:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> im gonna jam the entire network
13:59:11  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > ok
13:59:33  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > get ready for a shortage of trains coming back, and then a big flood of them
13:59:43  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > a tsunami of trains
13:59:49  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> wth?
14:00:05  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh i see
14:00:32  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > where are they all going to get clogged?
14:00:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> idk
14:00:38  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > at bbh 08
14:00:48  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > it has begun...
14:01:02  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> same at 09
14:01:28  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > god, if i understand those priority things, i think i've got it
14:01:58  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > there
14:04:21  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > lol the jam goes for miles
14:04:35  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > all the way to msh 05
14:05:10  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > that looks neat
14:05:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wait i think i messed up
14:05:50  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> big
14:05:56  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > really?
14:06:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
14:06:06  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > doesnt ook it
14:06:24  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > lol
14:06:27  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > the train is the limit
14:06:37  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > there running from the nuke
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14:11:32  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> darn it
14:13:09  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > imagine if this was what motorways were like
14:13:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > with so many routes to take, traffic would be virtually non exsistent
14:13:57  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > but it would be hard to navigate
14:15:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats temp :P
14:15:17  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > ok
14:15:24  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > are you going to extend bridges?
14:15:38  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > it would work better on the left 2
14:15:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> where?
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14:15:56  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i am done... but where are all the trains?
14:16:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> why so long?
14:16:41  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > ok
14:16:55  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> was as fast as i could do
14:17:26  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > it looks neat and compact though!
14:17:44  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i hope it works tho
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14:18:37  <BenJTotterdell> !password
14:18:37  <PublicServer> BenJTotterdell: grovel
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14:18:48  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > hi
14:18:54  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> heyo
14:19:00  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > beginning to start moving again
14:19:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > though bbh 05 will take a little time to clear out
14:19:29  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > though your track looks really smart
14:19:47  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> my?
14:19:57  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > vinnies
14:19:59  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > wheres urs ben
14:20:07  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> i dunno
14:20:13  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > ok sorry
14:20:20  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> all i have done is all the cow area
14:20:38  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > did u name it 'cow droppings'?
14:20:48  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> yes
14:21:02  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > lol
14:21:04  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > good name
14:21:22  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> well you drop the cow down the shoots into where the mineral ore normally goes
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14:21:35  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > did u do cravendale pickup?
14:21:35  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi
14:21:38  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > hi jam
14:21:40  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> yes
14:21:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hello
14:22:13  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > the track before cravendale looks really good
14:22:19  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > the priority bit
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14:27:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> split
14:27:40  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> whats ! stations about?
14:27:55  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > dunno
14:27:58  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > delete them
14:28:30  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yea, i placed the sign, asking what the stations are for
14:28:40  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > i deleted them...
14:28:44  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > they were random
14:28:50  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> and useless
14:28:57  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > and pointless
14:28:59  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> guess someone played around
14:29:41  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> stupid queues
14:29:45  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > yeah
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14:29:52  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > there stopping now
14:29:58  <BenJTotterdell> bbl
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14:34:57  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ready to go?
14:35:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah
14:36:03  <PublicServer> <Jam35> missing prio signal SLH10
14:36:17  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> thx
14:36:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> woho i almost made a deadlock
14:38:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> looks like BBH03 BBH08 connection is important
14:38:52  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yep
14:39:38  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> I gonna take some trains off the West ring
14:39:49  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> as we have a near deadlock
14:39:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah this will take 20 minutes to unjam
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14:41:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oh i wanna upgrade it again
14:44:00  <Sylf> !password
14:44:00  <PublicServer> Sylf: baited
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14:44:24  <PublicServer> <Sylf> hi
14:44:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
14:44:28  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hey
14:45:06  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi Sylf
14:58:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> damn evil X
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15:04:39  <Sylf> !password
15:04:39  <PublicServer> Sylf: pastry
15:04:58  <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game
15:10:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oops
15:10:58  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> crash?
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15:17:36  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh bbh09 expansion
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15:24:46  <Phillip> !players
15:24:48  <PublicServer> Phillip: Client 345 (Orange) is Sturmi, in company 1 (Gatston Transport)
15:24:48  <PublicServer> Phillip: Client 349 (Orange) is Vinnie, in company 1 (Gatston Transport)
15:24:48  <PublicServer> Phillip: Client 343 (Orange) is Bassals, in company 1 (Gatston Transport)
15:24:48  <PublicServer> Phillip: Client 363 is Jam35, a spectator
15:24:58  <Phillip> !password
15:24:58  <PublicServer> Phillip: knifes
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15:27:17  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> kinda long tunnel
15:27:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 1/3rd of traffic
15:27:34  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> true
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15:37:09  <sturmi2> !password
15:37:09  <PublicServer> sturmi2: knifes
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15:41:01  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> if you need some space.. i moved the wood station
15:41:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ty
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15:41:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so whats next
15:42:09  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> slh10
15:51:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> to easy
15:53:17  <PublicServer> *** Phillip has joined company #1
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16:01:32  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i guess you are warmed up now, lets so bbh04 :D
16:02:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but he will kill me
16:03:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> MSH 02 jams a little
16:03:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> near flutown are two mainlines on same signalblock
16:05:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> actually that is a pretty bad split
16:05:18  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the inner southbound lane?
16:05:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah
16:05:41  <Sylf> !password
16:05:41  <PublicServer> Sylf: daises
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16:16:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> great
16:16:50  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ?
16:17:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> looks like BBH04 cant wait any longer
16:17:14  <PublicServer> <Sylf> not really
16:17:14  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i just had the same thought
16:18:01  <PublicServer> <Sylf> wood/grain drop needs LLL_RRR too
16:18:23  <PublicServer> <Sylf> goods*
16:19:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Near MSH 08, to be sure?
16:19:31  <PublicServer> <Sylf> yeah
16:21:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> redo that terminus so we get a new entry and exit?
16:21:34  <PublicServer> <Sylf> that part?
16:21:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah
16:21:56  <PublicServer> <Sylf> yeah, we need something for the 3rd line
16:23:58  <PublicServer> <Sylf> lol
16:30:32  <PublicServer> <Sylf> don't shrink the tow too much :)
16:30:38  <PublicServer> <Sylf> We still need the goods acceptance
16:30:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oh yeah
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16:31:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so thats the exit
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16:33:56  <PublicServer> <Sylf> ?
16:33:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats a full overflow round
16:34:00  <PublicServer> <Sylf> oh
16:34:03  <PublicServer> <Sylf> k
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16:36:17  <V453000> !password
16:36:17  <PublicServer> V453000: tousle
16:36:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> hello
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16:36:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> HI
16:36:38  <PublicServer> <Sylf> hi
16:38:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> We can fix CL
16:38:35  <PublicServer> <Sylf> yeah
16:38:38  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I saw that too
16:38:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but im so lost in this MSH
16:39:20  <PublicServer> <Sylf> start with the exit, just need to make 3->3+3
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16:40:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so one merge missing
16:42:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> No?
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16:43:07  <PublicServer> <Sylf> why not
16:43:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you removed my track
16:43:20  <PublicServer> <Sylf> ohh
16:43:22  <PublicServer> <Sylf> hm?
16:43:24  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so i think you got a better ide
16:43:30  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> +a
16:43:30  <PublicServer> <Sylf> it's already connected
16:43:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i was making a 3rd north
16:49:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> why in ass do our trains autorenew
16:50:39  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> who messed with that overflow again -_-
16:52:21  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> k, no visible depots left
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16:59:15  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> isnt that still too short CL?
16:59:26  <PublicServer> <Sylf> at East1?
16:59:30  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yea
16:59:38  <PublicServer> <Sylf> no
16:59:44  <PublicServer> <Sylf> it's a regular S bend
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16:59:53  <BenJTotterdell> !password
16:59:53  <PublicServer> BenJTotterdell: rashly
16:59:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> im done
16:59:56  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok
16:59:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> just join left
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17:00:39  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hey Fort Flarnwell got an own train connection :p
17:01:17  <PublicServer> <Sylf> :)
17:01:39  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nust be nice to live there...
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17:07:26  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> so we are all scared to touch BBH 04 then? :P
17:07:57  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> I am not but its far beyond my skills
17:08:23  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> its messy in other words :P
17:08:58  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> not, just tooooo many connections for me
17:09:20  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> I would need the whole map to build a 4way hub :D
17:09:38  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> its only a 3 way :P
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17:09:52  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> I mean 4 tracks
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17:11:20  <GLAD0S> !Password
17:11:25  <GLAD0S> !password
17:11:25  <PublicServer> GLAD0S: rectum
17:11:42  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> omg those passwords
17:11:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > hi
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17:12:31  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > lol ur just building fourth line
17:12:39  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> so wut
17:12:49  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > i just got on at the right time
17:12:56  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> why?
17:13:06  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > dnot know
17:14:08  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > ...
17:14:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will teach you one secret technique
17:14:30  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > yes?
17:14:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> whoever is messing with BBH 04
17:14:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ?
17:14:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is called higlights
17:15:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ok
17:17:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> what I mean by that is that always anyone officially says that they want to do something, it would be nice if you try to highlight them before taking care of it instead
17:20:35  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> so who'S building bbh04 now?
17:21:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> I thought I was but I was apparently unclear
17:21:24  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > who else?
17:21:30  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> u weren't, sorry
17:21:37  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> all I am doing is adding 1 exit here
17:21:47  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> as there is a line complete
17:21:57  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> that is not connected
17:22:08  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> makes sense to add it :S
17:22:22  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > why the !here sign?
17:22:30  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> to point u to it
17:22:52  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > whats wrong
17:23:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > whats wrong with it
17:23:59  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> nothing
17:24:05  <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving)
17:24:07  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> i was talking to V
17:24:10  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > then why the sign
17:24:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will sort it out somehow dont worry
17:24:26  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> to show where i was talking about
17:24:32  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > ok sorry
17:26:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> I might be almost extremistic about this sort of thing as it happens all over again, but if someone explicitly asks that they want to maintain a certain hub or what ever else, I see it as at least polite to always try to highlight them in the irc before adjusting it; I do not say the communication has to be successful, nobody is on 24-7, but trying is at least polite imo ... to conclude it, I asked to maintain BBH 04 nothing else, so
17:27:48  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> I have not heard you say that,
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17:27:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> sorry then :)
17:28:02  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> sorry all the same
17:28:09  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> just an Idea... place a sign at the BBH saying: dont mess with it
17:28:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> I should have just placed a sign instead
17:28:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
17:31:33  <Tray> !password
17:31:33  <PublicServer> Tray: bosoms
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17:32:05  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the password list is great today...
17:32:14  <Sylf> I noticed too
17:32:33  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> first rectum, now bosoms... whats next?
17:32:45  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> TITS!
17:32:53  <Sylf> 6 characters, boy.
17:32:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 6 letters
17:32:57  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> too short:
17:32:59  <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> aww
17:33:05  <PublicServer> <Tray> tities?
17:33:14  <Sylf> two t's
17:33:25  <PublicServer> <Jam35> nipple
17:33:39  <PublicServer> <Tray> add a typo algorythm to the passwordgenerator!
17:33:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that one is a quote in db
17:34:08  <PublicServer> <Tray> for sake of pennis and tities
17:34:23  <Sylf> :P
17:34:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk if it wouldnt be better to include 4-7 letter words
17:39:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> for the greater good!"
17:39:39  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> :D
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17:40:06  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> they should learn braking
17:40:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yarr
17:40:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> arr
17:41:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> someone forgot to walk a station :/
17:41:54  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> prinningpool?
17:42:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
17:42:06  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> <<--
17:42:21  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i moved the station and forgot that
17:42:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> delicious jamming
17:42:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bbh10 :o
17:43:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> presignal instead of exit :/
17:43:35  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i take them off the line for the moment
17:51:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> thanks
17:51:24  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> an a double sbend
17:51:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> also an ugly gap, not done there yet
17:51:49  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> okay
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17:53:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets call this an acceptable solution
17:54:48  <Maraxus> !password
17:54:48  <PublicServer> Maraxus: jambed
17:54:54  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yep and it didnt grow much
17:55:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> that was the point
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17:55:05  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
17:55:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
17:55:23  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> still looks like a mess :D
17:55:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> :d
17:55:27  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hi
17:55:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> hello
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17:55:43  <GLAD0S> !password
17:55:43  <PublicServer> GLAD0S: jambed
17:55:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hello
17:55:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> well I guess 4th towards BBH 02 looks like a must
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17:56:03  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > hi guys!
17:56:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hey
17:56:16  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > hi xeryus
17:56:38  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> at least to SLH05
17:56:44  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > lol i using zbase base graphics and it looks sick
17:56:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> sick as in disgusting?
17:57:13  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > brilliant and clean
17:57:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think he still lives in the 90s, where sick and bad actually are good things
17:57:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > really clean
17:57:32  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > ...
17:57:33  <Sylf> zbase was unusable for me
17:57:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> some call it clean I call it primitive
17:57:42  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > how do you know thats not what people say
17:57:52  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > i mean do say...
17:57:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> why are no trains going south at bbh 10 :/
17:58:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> should be
17:58:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is livestock
17:58:38  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> some trains do
17:58:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i've seen like 4 do it in the past 10 mins
17:58:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and 3 of those were not voluntary :P
17:59:12  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> maybe the traindrivers dont like the scenery?
17:59:19  <Sylf> !password
17:59:19  <PublicServer> Sylf: jambed
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18:07:37  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> are you planning a 4th line west-south?
18:07:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty much
18:09:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> haha
18:10:28  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the jam?
18:12:06  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> confused train driver...
18:12:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> what a bitch
18:12:50  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> maybe these !pbs signals arent so good
18:13:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> why
18:13:23  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> a train in the tunnel backed up and jammed the whole thing
18:13:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is the result which happened for some reason but I was asking why do you think so :p
18:14:10  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i thought it was caused by the reversed pbs
18:14:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> no it actually doesnt have anything to do with it at all
18:14:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> as I was building a train simply reversed and way stopped at a 2way signal
18:14:48  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> okay
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18:18:03  <PublicServer> <Tray> by the way: who pays for the server?
18:18:17  <PublicServer> <Tray> well, actually no way I was just thinking about it
18:18:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think the people at Tratbourne are scheming something evil and they should be gotten rid of
18:18:51  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the axis of evil :P
18:19:34  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> and they look at the trees while their homes go for good
18:20:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> hey im not drunk anymore I just got a brutal hangover
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18:25:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh cute
18:25:27  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the steel mil?
18:25:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> no there was a bad signal in the overflow of sawmill
18:29:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> am I weird if I am listening to starcraft soundtrack? :)
18:30:27  <PublicServer> <Tray> V I did not get your point about highlighting. What was the case?
18:30:49  <PublicServer> <Tray> You were asked to upgrad BBH 04 and someone else interfer with it without communication?
18:31:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> no I wasnt even informed that anything was going on at that point :p
18:31:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk if you remember psg 199
18:32:36  <PublicServer> <Tray> I wasn't in that game what happened?
18:32:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> some really bad shit on this topic
18:33:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> nice removed stations, lots of rage,  ...
18:34:44  <PublicServer> <Tray> So: Your point is if I want to put my hands on some networkthing I should cantact the original builder first?
18:34:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> not always
18:35:00  <PublicServer> <Tray> sounds reasonable so
18:35:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont mean you should get a signed agreement on paper, the contacting doesnt even need to be successful as the person could be offline
18:35:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> but if it is at 17:00 european time when it is likely that I am online, it is nice to at least try
18:36:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> and it doesnt matter if it is me or anybody else
18:37:01  <PublicServer> <Tray> now I feel bad about my exit of BBH 02 ):
18:37:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont mind that at all actually :p
18:38:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is hard to tell which thing someone cares about
18:38:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> I made it quite clear in the chat about BBH 04 previously, but obviously one line in chat doesnt mean everybody knows, sign would have been better
18:39:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> can someone do !4th to BBH 02?
18:40:20  <PublicServer> <Tray> 4th?
18:40:26  <PublicServer> <Tray> do you mean the 5th to the nord?
18:40:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> see the sign
18:40:38  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> I've put a little sign on bbh04 to make things clear :)
18:40:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> in Graningway
18:40:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:41:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> the 5th in the other direction will be needed too though :) soon
18:41:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> 04 is ready for that
18:42:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will just finish the last merger and my work there is done for now
18:43:05  <PublicServer> <Tray> maybe I'm doing the tree thing wrong, but shouldn't building trees incrase the town's attitutde rather than lower it?
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18:43:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> well it lowers it to 0 first
18:43:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> then it increases by adding trees
18:43:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> wont work if they found your bribe
18:43:58  <PublicServer> <Tray> oh
18:44:04  <PublicServer> <Tray> so that's the problem
18:44:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
18:47:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok I think BBH 04 can officially be called expanded for now
18:47:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> almost
18:48:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> what the f
18:48:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh nvm
18:48:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> how did I end up with 5 lines there :D
18:52:39  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > back
18:53:26  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > hows everyone doing?
18:53:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> slowly recovering from yesterday
18:53:56  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > what happened then
18:54:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> some evil people served me beer and I obeyed by drinking it
18:54:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can meet terrible people in the world these days
18:54:39  <PublicServer> <Sylf> evil?  Sounds like a sweet angel to me
18:54:45  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > why is that evil
18:55:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh come on bitches dont know irony? :)
18:55:15  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > LOL UR DRUNK STILL
18:55:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> unfortunately not
18:55:56  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > you might be...
18:56:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > this is so CLEEEEEAN
18:56:28  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > u should get  zbase
18:56:34  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > it looks so clean!
18:56:34  <PublicServer> <Sylf> HELL no
18:56:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> hell fucking no
18:56:47  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > why?
18:56:50  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > why?
18:56:56  <PublicServer> <Sylf> So gross.
18:56:58  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > why
18:57:04  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > is it gross
18:57:12  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > do you use the ttd graphics?
18:57:14  <PublicServer> <Sylf> everything is so pale
18:57:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> almost no textures, poor contrast in general, ...
18:57:18  <PublicServer> <Sylf> flat
18:57:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah poor or no lighting effects
18:57:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> just blocks with no textures to me
18:57:48  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > what do you mena no lighting effects
18:58:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> well when you draw, the object should be somehow lightened
18:58:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> the more the light is obvious, the more plastical the output is logically
18:58:32  <PublicServer> <Sylf> the shadow effects in those zbase drawings are too weak
18:59:02  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > still 32bpp :-P
18:59:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> the technical problem with textures in 3D models into sprites imo is that you would need an absolutely brutal looking texture when zoomed in
18:59:14  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > but i understand what you mean
18:59:16  <PublicServer> <Sylf> also, the back side of the signals were unusable to me
18:59:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> to make it have any sort of details in the default zoom
18:59:30  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I couldn't tell between combo and exit signals
19:00:00  <PublicServer> <Sylf> also, I really don't care about 32bpp
19:00:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> the only purpose of 32bpp is to have more colours; doesnt allow for more contrast though
19:00:18  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > it is true what you said though
19:00:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> and contrast creates the main illusion of plasticness
19:01:00  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > when they make more textures
19:01:27  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > it will be better
19:01:42  <PublicServer> <Sylf> you better start making contributions then
19:01:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will let you believe what you want GLAD0S  but I will not share your belief
19:01:58  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > ... i no artist
19:02:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> I would like to say I am
19:02:11  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> they shouldnt make more textures, just better ones... the old problem of quality vs. quantity
19:02:19  <PublicServer> <GLAD0S > they have it good in base set
19:02:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> sort of Sturmi
19:02:49  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> you can make a lot of beer or a very good beer :p
19:02:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> GLAD0S : if you mean OpenGFX, most of it is done by the same person as zbase; and I think that zbase is just one more step in the "flat/whatever we describe it" direction
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19:03:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> with all respect to the tremendous amount of time Zephyris invests into it, I have to simply say that it is hard to match professional art of the original TTD graphics
19:04:05  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> as far as i remember opengfx were made under kind of pressure, as free textures were needeed badly
19:04:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> both opengfx and zbase have their purpose t hough
19:04:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wouldnt define it exactly as under pressure, but yes the main utility of it is that it is open source
19:06:08  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> omg this is a weird prio construction....
19:08:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> this game looks like it has no limits :)
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19:09:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you consider we started at LL
19:09:48  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> what was the biggest hub you built?
19:09:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> like ever?
19:10:01  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yea
19:10:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk I usually dont remember them by size but by the technical details how they are built
19:11:13  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> the hub from PSG 214 is probably a good bet
19:11:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is "easy" to build 10 line hub from each end
19:11:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> building it well is not
19:12:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> 214 was big but I cant say that hub was anyhow exceptionally awesome
19:12:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> rathe classical; with that amount of lines you usually do not afford much deviations from the "normal" ; especially if there are multiple people working on it
19:13:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wrong
19:13:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> whoever helped me
19:13:17  <V453000> my favourites are those two though: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/a/a6/PSG197.png http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/File:Psg230.png
19:13:19  <PublicServer> <Sturmi>  i did
19:13:25  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> was just an idea
19:13:59  <Sylf> I liked that 197 all tunnel one
19:14:23  <V453000> im not even sure I can build that again
19:14:27  <Sylf> Then, I came back this one time, and it was expanded, and everything were still under tunnels
19:14:53  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> why so complicated vinnie?
19:15:33  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh didnt see that one
19:16:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> either way time for a shower and attempting to do something productive
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19:16:56  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> good idea, see you later folks
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19:37:32  <sturmi2> !players
19:37:35  <PublicServer> sturmi2: Client 381 is V453000, a spectator
19:37:35  <PublicServer> sturmi2: Client 349 (Orange) is Vinnie, in company 1 (Gatston Transport)
19:37:35  <PublicServer> sturmi2: Client 394 is Maraxus, a spectator
19:37:35  <PublicServer> sturmi2: Client 395 (Orange) is Sylf, in company 1 (Gatston Transport)
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19:38:06  <sturmi> !password
19:38:06  <PublicServer> sturmi: hockey
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19:40:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> THE STORM HAS COME
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19:44:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so slow
19:44:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
19:44:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> my build speed when im expanding a line
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19:45:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> ..
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19:55:08  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> still 4 :(
19:57:30  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no need to rebuild merge for that
19:57:56  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> true, only minor changes
20:00:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but 3rd isnt needed there, imo
20:09:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you were building, sry
20:09:50  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i just removed the huge tunnels
20:10:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> hint: when expanding you often do not need a full LLLL through the inner part of the hub
20:10:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> often you can make a 4->3 instead of big tunnels
20:14:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> penis remark is gone :(
20:14:29  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ?
20:14:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> there was a sign insulting someone
20:15:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets try something insane after this
20:17:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oops
20:17:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> waiting bay to short
20:17:14  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> too short >-<
20:17:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> CL
20:17:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :(
20:18:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh no the penis
20:18:47  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nice
20:19:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> atleast i think you want the prios like that
20:20:27  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> well, kinda forgot them, thx
20:21:53  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> whats the insane thing you mentioned?
20:22:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> there is a spare 5th south of BBH04
20:22:17  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> get it trough SLH 05
20:22:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> to BBH 02
20:22:30  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hehe i already had a look on the slh...
20:22:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> then use it as 3rd from west
20:23:40  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> w->N should be the easy part then
20:23:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not in BBH 02
20:24:13  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> or you are seeing a way
20:24:21  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> no, i was at the slh
20:26:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> maybe if we shorter prio a bit
20:26:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wanna try it?
20:27:17  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i dont see a way yet
20:28:01  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> lol
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20:28:10  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> this time i was looking at bbh02
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20:30:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> tada
20:30:14  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nice
20:30:32  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i had the same idea... get rid of thet weird prio
20:31:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now the exit :(
20:33:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oh maybe i did something bad
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20:34:03  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i got an idea...
20:35:45  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nope
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20:37:51  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> awful long bridge
20:37:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah
20:38:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets kill it
20:41:52  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cl .(
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20:47:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> curves :P
20:47:56  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nasty :D
20:48:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it looks nasty?
20:48:17  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> no, curves can be nasty
20:49:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> did you just say you will BBH 02 by yourself?
20:49:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> +do
20:49:55  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> lmao
20:50:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nice
20:50:56  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> try it
20:50:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :P
20:51:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> actually i remember someone who did that
20:51:39  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i bet in pre-pbs times :D
20:51:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no like 40 psg ago
20:52:17  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hmm thats not so long
20:52:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> first time here explaining what a better junction is
20:52:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> this might be an epic fail
20:53:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but i think i see a little space
20:53:16  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> good luck
20:56:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmm not really
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20:59:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nice
21:00:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats one bridge
21:01:27  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok, still short enough
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21:04:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> :p
21:04:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oh i was thinking somehthong else
21:04:42  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oops... cl1
21:04:56  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> V helping us?
21:05:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> well you need to do something on that end
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21:07:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no signal after bridge
21:07:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> there you go
21:07:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oh wrong way, im an idiot
21:08:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> epic evil
21:08:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> do it
21:09:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> just made the split; I didnt touch the mergers much  though
21:09:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> feel free to carryon with that :)
21:10:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ahh you only did the easy part
21:10:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty much
21:10:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i don't wanna touch the merger to south
21:11:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> /split
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21:13:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> muhahaha
21:13:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
21:14:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> sacrifice for the gods
21:14:15  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> rest in pieces
21:15:10  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nice idea
21:15:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> I would even split the other line
21:15:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> for more poptions
21:15:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> like
21:16:06  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> danm you are fast :)
21:16:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> how about that way
21:16:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> then you split a track that doesnt need splitting
21:16:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> my point was, if you make just the 2 rather long tunnels/bridges to one choice it might not be enough to make use of that line
21:16:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> that doenst matter
21:17:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> it can help the other line
21:17:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> I would probably just make a short one this way
21:19:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i can fit it
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21:19:40  <Dom_> !password
21:19:40  <PublicServer> Dom_: lounge
21:19:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> well best would be a single join
21:20:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> y
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21:20:49  <PublicServer> <Dom> hello
21:20:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> hy
21:21:05  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hey
21:21:09  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
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21:35:15  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cl
21:35:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sbend has 1 tile
21:35:24  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> damn
21:36:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> I just rebuilt the ore drop
21:36:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> doesnt accept steel now
21:36:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> there can be some lost ore trains for a little while
21:37:04  <PublicServer> <Dom> ok
21:38:46  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> FAIL .P
21:38:53  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oops caps
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21:44:02  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> that bridge sucks
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21:52:52  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nice thats only 2 of 5 connections
21:53:06  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> still have a bad cl here
21:53:24  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> where?
21:53:38  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nvm you just sorted it out
21:54:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oh you got it
21:54:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nice
21:54:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> not always necessary to have all connections :p try and see
21:55:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no wait
21:55:49  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> lol
21:55:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that isnt right
21:59:50  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i need a beer now
21:59:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> that sounds right
22:01:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ahhh
22:07:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats 1
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22:07:39  <LoPo> yo
22:07:43  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
22:07:43  <LoPo> !players
22:07:46  <PublicServer> LoPo: Client 399 (Orange) is Sturmi, in company 1 (Gatston Transport)
22:07:46  <PublicServer> LoPo: Client 381 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (Gatston Transport)
22:07:46  <PublicServer> LoPo: Client 349 (Orange) is Vinnie, in company 1 (Gatston Transport)
22:07:46  <PublicServer> LoPo: Client 401 (Orange) is Dom, in company 1 (Gatston Transport)
22:07:46  <PublicServer> LoPo: Client 394 (Orange) is Maraxus, in company 1 (Gatston Transport)
22:07:48  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
22:07:54  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ahoi
22:07:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi there
22:09:03  <LoPo> !password
22:09:03  <PublicServer> LoPo: lusted
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22:10:10  <PublicServer> <LoPo> some one need help / some thing to do anywhere?
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22:14:37  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but now there is no need for it :(
22:15:00  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> lets see it as invbestment for the future
22:15:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> this merge is as big as a LL_RR hub
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22:16:38  <dr-dinosaur> SC2 time!
22:16:52  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> sim city 2?
22:16:57  <dr-dinosaur> starcraft m2
22:16:59  <V453000> idk if we needed to know that dr-dinosaur
22:17:23  <dr-dinosaur> Day 9 is commentating, you mentioned him in your blog :)
22:17:34  <V453000> :)
22:19:17  <PublicServer> <LoPo> why are some prio's so long? is the accel of these trains that poor?
22:20:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> you never played without newGRFs or what :P
22:20:41  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ?
22:21:11  <Sylf> yes, it's that poor :)
22:21:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> everybody knows asiastar doesnt have a great acceleration :P
22:21:27  <PublicServer> <LoPo> well i did, but these have 500+ T.E.
22:21:29  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but oky
22:21:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes the te is rather good, so BBH mergers dont need terribly long prios
22:21:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> SLHs kind of do
22:22:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> more trains ?
22:23:00  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i was just about to ask
22:23:19  <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol, some kind of buggy waves on the MLs ;p
22:23:27  <PublicServer> <LoPo> weird stuff ^^
22:23:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i think we can reach a 7L _7R on this map
22:24:21  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the east half of the map could use some traffic
22:24:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> more farms to SLHs there
22:24:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> slash better serviced farms there
22:24:53  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> and more cows to the butchery
22:25:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> cows for sure, grain can take more punishment as well
22:26:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> for rest of industries just make all goods picked up
22:26:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> instead of adding primaries
22:26:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> at least for now
22:27:19  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> poeple at Graningway
22:27:39  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ?
22:27:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> poep is shit in dutch
22:27:50  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> theres just a bunch of bankers left
22:28:05  <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol vinnie? :P
22:28:07  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh typo
22:28:21  <PublicServer> <LoPo> poep(le)
22:28:24  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yea poep and poop are quite similar
22:29:39  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> Glados forest died...
22:30:10  <Sylf> did he ever fix the station anyway?
22:30:16  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nope
22:30:22  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> it wasnt even connected
22:30:32  <Sylf> I disconnected it
22:30:38  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh ok
22:30:45  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i removed it now
22:30:55  <PublicServer> <LoPo> glados? :P
22:30:59  <Sylf> yeah.  pointless stations are pointless
22:32:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH11 :)
22:33:03  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> 3rd from 07 to 11?
22:33:15  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no it just needs pre-signals
22:33:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but that isn't in his timelapse
22:34:06  <PublicServer> <LoPo> photoshop it in ;)
22:34:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> does making a stupid construction video make the hub untouchable or what :)
22:35:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> He claimed it
22:35:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
22:35:29  <PublicServer> <LoPo> dunno? maybe trains are just avoiding the hub now...
22:35:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> that the archived result of the hub shall be the same as the video result?
22:35:38  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> make a video of your improvements
22:36:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> im not making a video of me building ever
22:36:18  <PublicServer> <LoPo> why not?
22:36:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> because it doesnt really tell you anything unlike when I write a lot of shit about it
22:36:44  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P make a video of you in person, while building ;p
22:37:06  <PublicServer> <LoPo> my point
22:37:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> I can make a photo of an idiot staring at the monitor for a few hours, done :P
22:37:07  <Sylf> live commentating :)
22:37:10  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :D
22:37:21  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> live swearing :p
22:37:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont think that is viable Sylf
22:37:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> all that matters is the result to me
22:37:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wouldnt be against mass skype conference calls in the game however
22:38:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> but as learning material a video is imo worthless
22:38:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is nice to look at, it is attractive, but written guides can tell a lot more
22:39:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> not to mention that I think written text is better for explaining more complicated topics
22:39:16  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> they just show how impressive coop is
22:39:29  <Sylf> not really...
22:39:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> you see that from a savegame or a screenshot as well
22:39:43  <Sylf> I think the impressive part is cooping
22:39:50  <PublicServer> <LoPo> well, about "coop" time laps things; i had this idea
22:39:57  <Sylf> not a work of a single person
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22:40:05  <PublicServer> <LoPo> is it possible to record the whole map?
22:40:07  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> well, i was impressed when i saw him building that huge station
22:40:21  <PublicServer> <LoPo> and then run / record it for one game long
22:40:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> depends how you put it Sylf; ABRs do not touch cooperation either; yet they are a learning material
22:40:29  <PublicServer> <LoPo> that would be cool :)
22:40:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> LoPo you could make a global screenshot every year for example
22:40:54  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah
22:40:56  <PublicServer> <LoPo> like that
22:41:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> the server has a similar script after all
22:41:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> or used to
22:41:18  <Sylf> but ABR doesn't show how impressive coop games are either.  They're what it takes to make a impressive games.
22:41:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> indeed
22:41:52  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but imo you dont need advanced stuff to have good coop...
22:42:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> nobody said that?
22:42:38  <PublicServer> <LoPo> Sylf just sad that ABR is about impressive building shizzle for coop?
22:43:04  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i'm just pointing out that coop has nothing to do with what you build :P
22:43:14  <PublicServer> <LoPo> its about building togetter
22:43:20  <PublicServer> <LoPo> and learning togetter
22:43:30  <PublicServer> <LoPo> and other random stuff ^^
22:43:42  <Sylf> <3 the random shitz
22:43:48  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :D
22:44:02  <PublicServer> <LoPo> no random shit = bad coop ;)
22:44:05  <PublicServer> <LoPo> quote that!
22:44:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah i found some work
22:44:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> openttdcoop can be described in many ways
22:45:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> the cooperation is obviously the main key point, but things like archives and developed building style for over 7 years is also extremely important
22:45:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> nobody does that and it obviously shows results
22:45:42  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes off course; but it only speeded up that progress
22:45:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
22:45:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> compare for example stable
22:45:57  <PublicServer> <LoPo> not "invented" it
22:46:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> the level of building there is more or less static
22:46:07  <PublicServer> <LoPo> true :)
22:46:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> level of building here is raising all the time
22:46:18  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but it is basicly the "starting zone"
22:46:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> I believe the difference is in the archives
22:46:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> what is starting zone? stable? no
22:46:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Sturmi: did we forget a connection in BBH13?
22:46:45  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but that is what the coop community wants right?
22:46:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
22:47:01  <PublicServer> <LoPo> so i dont realy see the point?
22:47:04  <PublicServer> <LoPo> no?
22:47:06  <PublicServer> <LoPo> why not?
22:47:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> stable is just different
22:47:16  <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol
22:47:18  <PublicServer> <LoPo> sec
22:47:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> that people generally build less advanced things doesnt mean it is more suitable for starting
22:47:38  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the inner lane from west  does only turn left
22:47:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you want to learn a good general undestanding of the game, you wont get that on stable
22:47:55  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> doesnt merge woth other south lanes
22:48:30  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> or what do you mean vin
22:48:48  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the 3rd to North
22:48:50  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ah yes
22:49:01  <PublicServer> <LoPo> well, in my experiance / understanding i thought the "welcome server"  was for beginners...
22:49:03  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> never built it as it isnt needed
22:49:05  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> because MSH 05 could be connected to that
22:49:17  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> look at the traffic from south
22:49:19  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but on the other side of this story, I never played there :P
22:49:38  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i just came here on coopserver and started do random stuff
22:49:41  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> MSH05?
22:49:47  <PublicServer> <LoPo> and somehow became member as well ;) :P
22:49:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
22:50:12  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but my point is; that I think most people will think the welcome server is for beginners
22:50:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> the ml in MSH05 is jamming a little so a 3rd should fix that for the future
22:50:33  <PublicServer> <LoPo> and the coop server is for more advanced persons as such
22:50:33  <Sylf> LoPo, I know what you mean...
22:50:38  <Sylf> and that's a sad fact
22:50:44  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i see
22:50:54  <PublicServer> <LoPo> IF this is not the case, THEN we should work on that
22:50:58  <PublicServer> <LoPo> because
22:50:59  <Sylf> I try to tell stable players to come check this server out
22:51:22  <PublicServer> <LoPo> we need people to "understand" where to play/learn properly and such
22:51:36  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i did that to Sylf :)
22:51:39  <Sylf> I really think beginners should start on this server, not stable
22:51:45  <PublicServer> <LoPo> Dom is one of those persons even :P
22:51:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> is the stable server still up, i can't find it
22:51:51  <Sylf> yeah
22:51:53  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but i do miss some others
22:51:56  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i kinda ignored the stable till now
22:52:22  <PublicServer> <LoPo> and i totally agree we should have more peeps on coop server
22:52:40  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but maybe we should experiment with some new ideas
22:52:47  <PublicServer> <LoPo> like coop/comp (not my idea)
22:52:48  <Sylf> of course, I have personal motive too :)  I need more players in my timezone
22:53:15  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah that is also (or maybe) a problem :)
22:53:22  <V453000> people "think" many thigns LoPo :P
22:53:32  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but we cant realy start more servers i think :P
22:53:36  <V453000> I understand why do people "think" welcome server is a good place to start
22:53:44  <PublicServer> <LoPo> having one for europe and one for america
22:53:59  <V453000> trying to lure them on PS is defitely a good move; invent how :P
22:54:09  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah but V453000, lets be frank about this
22:54:13  <V453000> why would you have a separate server for different region...
22:54:27  <dr-dinosaur> It's just the public server isn't accessible
22:54:35  <dr-dinosaur> There needs to be a task list or something
22:54:37  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> only reason could be the time difference
22:54:37  <PublicServer> <LoPo> the level of playstyle is completely different if you compare coopserver with welcome
22:54:37  <V453000> how come
22:54:47  <Sylf> task list?
22:54:49  <dr-dinosaur> No idea where to start
22:54:50  <V453000> of course it is LoPo :)
22:54:52  <Sylf> You mean @QuickStart?
22:55:01  <Sylf> oh.
22:55:02  <dr-dinosaur> No, what to actually do
22:55:08  <Sylf> It's easy.
22:55:13  <Sylf> Join the server and watch.
22:55:17  <PublicServer> <LoPo> so its not only that people "think" in advance that thats the case, they also "see" it... :P
22:55:43  <PublicServer> <LoPo> maybe people like us should participate more on welcome
22:55:45  <Sylf> I watched 2 games without doing much before I started building :)
22:55:47  <PublicServer> <LoPo> and build awsome shit :P
22:56:06  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> we did that a few times
22:56:15  <V453000> I played singleplayer for about 20 ps games .p
22:56:26  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but the "rule" sets are imo completely different and screw up "coop"-like building style
22:56:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> ? which rule
22:56:52  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i bankrupted myself like 1000 times on stable...
22:57:02  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i hate that :P
22:57:03  <Sylf> yeah, V.  You were also frustrated for a while that PS became "Let's build with V" zone
22:57:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wonder how you managed that
22:57:30  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i just want to build, not first collect money and start 1 train....
22:57:40  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> by using ships :d
22:57:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> still, technical difference between stable and PS is that there are more smaller companies, but they usually are even on separate islands
22:57:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> usually stable settings are really cheap
22:57:54  <PublicServer> <LoPo> no sometimes the rules on stable should be like coop
22:57:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> expensive = bad map
22:57:57  <dr-dinosaur> I love the starting of a game, finding a good route, and having a shoestring budget :)
22:58:05  <PublicServer> <LoPo> it that so?
22:58:15  <PublicServer> <LoPo> well maybe im just a poor player :P
22:58:34  <V453000> Sylf: well obviously :) but well
22:58:36  <Sylf> Dr, then I guess coop is not for you :P
22:58:42  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> Vinnie, do you take the 3rd through the middle or from the outside?
22:58:56  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no i do it the hard way
22:59:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> me
22:59:12  <V453000> Sylf: people wanting to build is of course the cure to that
22:59:28  <PublicServer> <LoPo> need help Vinnie?
22:59:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no not in this hub
22:59:49  <PublicServer> <LoPo> k
22:59:56  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but you can extend 3rd if you want
23:00:05  <PublicServer> <LoPo> bbh3?
23:00:15  <Sylf> I think game like that was one of those cures.  Starting with LL_RR makes BBH building less scary to beginners
23:00:18  <dr-dinosaur> !password
23:00:18  <PublicServer> dr-dinosaur: vistas
23:00:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> from MSH05 to BBH 13
23:00:30  <PublicServer> <LoPo> or that line to bbh01?
23:00:33  <V453000> yes that is what I was talking about a week ago :p
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23:00:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats what i was planning
23:00:52  <Sylf> And I really liked how this game turned out.  Great plan.
23:01:16  <Sylf> And I totally see how you could see endless potential with this game :P
23:01:20  <V453000> the amount of activity is even surprising tbh :)
23:01:56  <PublicServer> <Dr-Dinosaur> Yep. I get scared
23:02:02  <Sylf> LOL
23:02:06  <PublicServer> <Dr-Dinosaur> I'm looking at beer pickup and grain drop
23:02:10  <V453000> if this goes successful, I would personally consider making more simple games here
23:02:12  <PublicServer> <Dr-Dinosaur> And automatic train killer
23:02:29  <Sylf> I agree.
23:02:36  <V453000> a long time ago there were a few games where a game started on PS and after reaching some point of complexity the game was moved to PZ
23:02:54  <Sylf> :D
23:02:58  <V453000> we could revive some similar mechanism
23:03:36  <Sylf> I can totally see how this stage of this game can be intiminating to some people to contribute anything
23:03:50  <planetmaker> !rcon set max_trains
23:03:50  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current value for 'max_trains' is: '1555' (min: 0, max: 5000)
23:03:55  <V453000> I would even consider making PZ public for such cases
23:03:58  <planetmaker> !rcon companies
23:03:58  <PublicServer> planetmaker: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Gatston Transport'  Year Founded: 2100  Money: 10548537634  Loan: 0  Value: 10552439087  (T:1555, R:2, P:0, S:0) unprotected
23:04:11  <planetmaker> !dl lin64
23:04:11  <PublicServer> planetmaker: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24636/openttd-trunk-r24636-linux-generic-amd64.tar.xz
23:04:19  <Sylf> It's so huge and overwhelming.... But it's so awesome to watch!
23:04:27  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> omg what a lagg
23:04:46  <Sylf> ok, lag kills the awesomeness :/
23:04:52  <V453000> :P
23:05:44  <PublicServer> <Dr-Dinosaur> I like wood ang rain corp, how the stations alternate in direction
23:05:46  <V453000> either way I would consider moving this to PZ, and starting a new game for the newer people
23:05:48  <PublicServer> <Dr-Dinosaur> That is sooo cool
23:06:07  <Sylf> *whispers*  copycaaaaaat
23:06:25  <V453000> I built it with him :) so no copycat .p
23:06:31  <Sylf> XD  OK
23:06:39  <V453000> also the design is fucking dope so why not reuse it :P
23:06:56  <PublicServer> <LoPo> if you embrace the lag it will not be there anymore ;)
23:07:03  <planetmaker> !password
23:07:03  <PublicServer> planetmaker: vistas
23:07:11  <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker joined the game
23:07:12  <Sylf> because I hate it when we need more than 2 input lines
23:07:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> welcome pm :)
23:07:16  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hi :-)
23:07:22  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ey planetm4ker
23:07:24  <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker has joined company #1
23:08:04  <planetmaker> this looks like pretty classic coop style, right?
23:08:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty much
23:08:24  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> sweet
23:08:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> to call it more technically ... "just random stuff" :P
23:08:41  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> random? what about the plan at the place I join?
23:08:43  <Sylf> the pre-planned chaos plan?
23:08:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> well the plan is random :D
23:08:59  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> is it?
23:09:06  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> looks ok to me ;-)
23:09:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> we just literally drew it, with some sense of course
23:09:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> but ... :)
23:09:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> well in compare to many systematic plans, this is random :)
23:09:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> last game as diametral difference comes to mind
23:09:49  <PublicServer> <Dr-Dinosaur> Ahhh I can see where I can do something!
23:10:12  <Sylf> :)
23:10:21  <Sylf> I know what you can do, Dr...
23:10:34  <Sylf> We need to convince Woodbutcher to come to this server!
23:10:48  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> meh... stations need 32bpp :-P
23:10:58  <PublicServer> <Dr-Dinosaur> Emergency maintenance for 3 days on welcome server?
23:11:04  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> lol. 8bpp engines with 32bpp wagons :-)
23:11:06  <Sylf> XD
23:11:18  <Sylf> I kinda tried that...
23:11:27  <Sylf> I refused to renew a map for about a week
23:11:45  <Sylf> all they did was starting some ritual to coop gods to make new map :P
23:13:25  <Sylf> eh?  pm?  your gfx set is missing 32bpp asiastar sprites?
23:13:59  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> possibly. Maybe I should pull & compile tip of zbase
23:14:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> idk when I tried zbase it looked completely 32bpp to me
23:14:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> tried the bananas version
23:14:58  <PublicServer> <LoPo> who is dr?
23:15:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> guess :)
23:15:04  <PublicServer> <Dr-Dinosaur> Me :)
23:15:26  <PublicServer> <LoPo> oh you are watching ME!?
23:15:28  <PublicServer> <LoPo> omg
23:16:30  <PublicServer> <LoPo> stupid steel mill :P
23:18:12  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but is planetm4ker = planetmaker?
23:18:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> LoPo drunk owat :D
23:18:57  <PublicServer> <LoPo> dunno man :S
23:19:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> ofc it is pm :)
23:19:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> if I do this will you recognize me ? :P
23:19:41  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has changed his/her name to V464000
23:19:49  <PublicServer> <V464000> or even
23:19:52  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi V464000
23:19:55  <PublicServer> <LoPo> welcome :D
23:19:59  <PublicServer> <LoPo> im LoPo
23:20:05  <PublicServer> *** V464000 has changed his/her name to VA53000
23:20:13  <PublicServer> <VA53000> k good :d
23:20:15  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yes. I replace one of my a by a 4 to not highlight myself in IRC when I type ingame
23:20:15  <PublicServer> *** VA53000 has changed his/her name to V453000
23:20:20  <PublicServer> <LoPo> omg somany new people...
23:20:34  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> but I guess I'm not new :-P
23:21:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> you are to LoPo apparently :D
23:21:42  <PublicServer> <Dr-Dinosaur> Okay, I added a station
23:21:50  <PublicServer> <Dr-Dinosaur> Can I add trains to it, or should I wait?
23:21:52  <PublicServer> <LoPo> gratz man :)
23:22:59  <PublicServer> <Dr-Dinosaur> Too many vehicles in game :(
23:24:05  <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah
23:24:12  <PublicServer> <LoPo> stupid vehicle cap...
23:24:14  <PublicServer> <Dr-Dinosaur> So what are we doing then?
23:24:26  <PublicServer> <LoPo> getting another beer :)
23:24:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Good
23:25:01  <V453000> !rcon set max_trains 1666
23:25:15  <V453000> priorities: 1. make good goods service, 2. farms for bottom part of the map
23:25:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thank you
23:25:29  <PublicServer> <Dr-Dinosaur> good goods :p
23:25:51  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> well lets call this finished
23:25:53  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> who is at BBH01?
23:26:01  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i am
23:28:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Roundabout design, i remember iklucas
23:29:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> having 4 line access to BBH 09 would be nice
23:29:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> 08 I mean
23:30:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> would help BBH 05 merger probably
23:30:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> the 4->3 isnt exactly happy about the situation
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23:31:16  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> gn
23:31:19  <PublicServer> <LoPo> bb
23:31:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> see you
23:31:25  <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving)
23:31:34  <Vinnie_nl> cya
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23:33:01  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ...
23:33:33  <PublicServer> <LoPo> people should also put less signs and just fix issues more often...
23:33:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
23:33:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> saying that all the time
23:33:55  <PublicServer> <LoPo> stupid CL signs...
23:38:09  <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol
23:40:06  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i hope that merge works out...
23:40:30  <PublicServer> <LoPo> where?
23:40:38  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> bbh01
23:40:44  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> north end
23:40:54  <PublicServer> <LoPo> oh
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23:41:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> aint that SLH06 already? :P
23:41:42  <PublicServer> <LoPo> well epic jam fest at the other line ;p
23:41:57  <PublicServer> <LoPo> no
23:42:03  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> thats vinnie building on the next hub :)
23:42:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what?
23:42:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i did nothing the past 6 min
23:42:30  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh i thought you were at slh06
23:45:29  <PublicServer> <LoPo> me
23:45:33  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> kk
23:46:07  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> this hub is kinda pbs heavy
23:47:16  <PublicServer> <LoPo> so?
23:47:36  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> to the east, only pbs junxtions
23:48:00  <PublicServer> <Sturmi> but i think traffic allows it :p
23:50:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> BBH01: you have 2 tile waiting bays there
23:50:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> or similar
23:50:31  <PublicServer> <LoPo> wtf
23:53:25  <PublicServer> <LoPo> snake power ;p
23:54:20  <Sylf> !password
23:54:20  <PublicServer> Sylf: eagles
23:55:00  <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game
23:55:11  <PublicServer> <LoPo> where is the 3rd from BBH 03?
23:55:21  <PublicServer> <LoPo> 13*
23:55:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i havent made it
23:56:34  <PublicServer> <LoPo> oky :)
23:58:00  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ^^
23:58:27  <PublicServer> <LoPo> something like that/
23:58:29  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ?
23:58:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that should work
23:58:55  <Ammler> !playercount
23:58:55  <PublicServer> Ammler: Number of players: 6 (0 spectators)

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