Log for #openttdcoop on 16th February 2013:
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00:04:29  <Sylf> !password
00:04:29  <PublicServer> Sylf: manias
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01:13:53  <Dom_> !playercount
01:13:53  <PublicServer> Dom_: Number of players: 1 (0 spectators)
01:14:34  <Dom_> !password
01:14:34  <PublicServer> Dom_: manias
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01:14:46  <PublicServer> <Dom> hi
01:21:30  <Sylf> woo a prey!
01:21:56  <PublicServer> <Dom> :)
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01:38:11  <Sylf> @stage Planning
01:38:11  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG254 (r24990) | STAGE: Planning | | New players, use @quickstart and !help | | Participate on wiki upgrades!"
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02:10:39  <PublicServer> <Dom> gn8
02:10:45  <PublicServer> <Sylf> nite
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09:26:08  <Fenya> !help
09:26:09  <PublicServer> Fenya:
09:27:23  <Fenya> !players
09:27:26  <PublicServer> Fenya: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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10:05:00  <Dom_> !playercount
10:05:00  <PublicServer> Dom_: Number of players: 0 (0 spectators)
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13:11:12  <Jam35> !password
13:11:12  <PublicServer> Jam35: greets
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15:57:27  <Sylf> !password
15:57:27  <PublicServer> Sylf: greets
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16:02:00  <V453000> !password
16:02:00  <PublicServer> V453000: greets
16:02:05  <V453000> !dl win64
16:02:05  <PublicServer> V453000:
16:03:12  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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16:03:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> hai
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16:03:22  <PublicServer> <Sylf> oy
16:05:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> need some minions :)
16:05:59  <PublicServer> <Sylf> jah
16:06:21  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I wanted to post a blog to hire minions
16:06:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> mhm bork bork
16:19:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> only  4 rail types, bad map :PP
16:20:58  <Jam35> !password
16:20:58  <PublicServer> Jam35: meddle
16:21:05  <Sylf> :P
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16:21:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> MINION
16:21:26  <Sylf> We're still in stone ages.  We don't have waterway rail type yet
16:21:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> hai
16:21:34  <PublicServer> <Jam35> :minion here
16:21:37  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hello
16:22:15  <PublicServer> <Jam35> Is the plan set then?
16:22:21  <PublicServer> <Sylf> nope
16:22:27  <PublicServer> <Jam35> oh ok
16:22:41  <PublicServer> <Sylf> submit your plan. your deadline is yesterday.
16:22:47  <PublicServer> <Jam35> :)
16:22:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> or else
16:23:25  <PublicServer> <Jam35> well I better give it some thought then
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16:26:23  <zxbiohazardzx> ohi
16:30:35  <zxbiohazardzx> for coop public realm whats the pass?
16:34:13  <V453000> @quickstart
16:34:14  <V453000> there
16:34:14  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
16:34:17  <V453000> hai
16:34:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyway, off for a nap
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16:37:48  <zxbiohazardzx> ah my bad
16:38:41  <zxbiohazardzx> !password
16:38:41  <PublicServer> zxbiohazardzx: glower
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16:44:02  <zxbiohazardzx> i assume we suggest plannings near Saninghall?
16:45:28  <PublicServer> <Sylf> you can put your plan anywhere on the map
16:45:32  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> ah ok
16:45:38  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> im just checking the map out
16:45:48  <PublicServer> <Sylf> once we have a winning plan, we'll make a copy of that plan out of our way
16:46:02  <PublicServer> <Sylf> so not much harm in putting plan anywhere
16:46:04  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> this is a new concept for me but i liked the blog etc alot  so i decided to have a look :P
16:46:06  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> yeah ok
16:46:22  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> setup similar look as saninghall or?
16:46:50  <PublicServer> <Sylf> yeah, just a bare-bones network layout
16:47:09  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> k and gametype?
16:47:11  <PublicServer> <Sylf> or, some unique ideas on how to build the train network
16:47:14  <PublicServer> <Sylf> yeah
16:47:28  <PublicServer> <Sylf> pax only, cargo only, mix, srnw, refit, etc
16:47:48  <PublicServer> <Sylf> or some totally crazy new game concept :)
16:47:50  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> ah free choice as long as you mention what you do :P
16:47:52  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> fine fine
16:48:02  <PublicServer> <Sylf> except for airplane game concept and ship game concept
16:48:08  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> yeah its a traingame i know
16:48:34  <PublicServer> <Sylf> We've done road games before
16:48:58  <PublicServer> <Sylf> but this map is too big for that
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16:50:38  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> depends on scale but yeah
16:51:17  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> do i make new comp for the plans, do i join yellow?
16:53:35  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> nvm cant make new thus answered
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17:03:54  <Sylf> !rcon set max_companies
17:03:54  <PublicServer> Sylf: Current value for 'max_companies' is: '1' (min: 1, max: 15)
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17:08:52  <pietballas> !download
17:08:52  <PublicServer> pietballas: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
17:08:52  <PublicServer> pietballas:
17:10:01  <pietballas> !password
17:10:01  <PublicServer> pietballas: menace
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17:11:03  <PublicServer> <Sylf> hi
17:11:06  <PublicServer> <pietballas> hi
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17:15:18  <PublicServer> <pietballas> new to the public server
17:15:55  <PublicServer> <pietballas> trying to learn more advance teqniques
17:16:42  <PublicServer> <Sylf> stick around and come back often
17:17:03  <PublicServer> <pietballas> will do
17:17:05  <PublicServer> <Sylf> once we pick a winning plan and start building, it moves fast
17:17:23  <PublicServer> <Sylf> until it's too big for many of us to handle :P
17:17:25  <PublicServer> <pietballas> my main issue is planning the map
17:17:29  <PublicServer> <pietballas> hehe
17:18:05  <PublicServer> <Sylf> You should give a try
17:18:12  <PublicServer> <Sylf> Submit any simple plan
17:30:03  <PublicServer> <pietballas> what does the 2x (Maglev. CL3) mean ?
17:32:15  <PublicServer> <Sylf> that's talking about what kind of engine is intended for that plan
17:32:29  <PublicServer> <Sylf> Get Heavy is the name of the loco
17:32:35  <pietballas> ah ok
17:32:37  <PublicServer> <Sylf> it should be 5 tiles long
17:32:43  <PublicServer> <Sylf> it should have 2 locos per train
17:33:02  <PublicServer> <Sylf> because of its stats, we can build with curve length of 3
17:33:09  <pietballas> ah tx
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17:54:02  <pietballas> !password
17:54:02  <PublicServer> pietballas: gadget
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17:57:18  <PublicServer> <Sylf> Jam35, do you want LLRR, or just LL for your rings?
17:57:28  <PublicServer> <Jam35> good point
17:57:31  <PublicServer> <Jam35> I knew what I meant
17:57:34  <PublicServer> <Jam35> :0
17:57:36  <PublicServer> <Sylf> :D
17:57:38  <PublicServer> <Jam35> :)
17:58:21  <PublicServer> <Jam35> makes more sense?
17:58:27  <PublicServer> <Sylf> yup!
17:58:37  <PublicServer> <Jam35> not sure on train choice
17:59:04  <PublicServer> <Sylf> Actually, I'm trying to figure out the no-right-turn part
17:59:26  <PublicServer> <Jam35> ... hang on a sec :)
17:59:36  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I think I see it
18:00:07  <PublicServer> <Sylf> for trains traveling from A to B
18:00:15  <PublicServer> <Jam35> works doesn't it?
18:00:17  <PublicServer> <Sylf> that tain should either go straight or go left
18:00:27  <PublicServer> <Jam35> yep think so...
18:00:46  <PublicServer> <Sylf> so, there shouldn't be any primary pickup for iron ore at wood goods/refinery area
18:01:16  <PublicServer> <Jam35> shouldn't be necessary to go from a ring to next consecutive ring
18:01:23  <PublicServer> <Sylf> ok
18:01:45  <PublicServer> <Jam35> and as long as the pick isn't immediately after the drop
18:02:02  <PublicServer> <Jam35> ...obviously means long way round
18:02:33  <PublicServer> <Sylf> so, we're basically taking everything from far end to the other far end
18:02:49  <PublicServer> <Jam35> yes it is flawed that way :(
18:03:11  <PublicServer> <Sylf> let the voters decide if it's flawed or not
18:03:17  <PublicServer> <Jam35> now I want right turn for primaries
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18:04:44  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hm maybe SL could join central ring only?
18:05:08  <PublicServer> <Jam35> (imagines much mess)
18:07:08  <PublicServer> <Sylf> Can I mess with your plan?  Asymmetry is driving me crazy :P
18:07:18  <PublicServer> <Jam35> please :)
18:08:32  <PublicServer> <Sylf> hmmm
18:08:58  <PublicServer> <Sylf> what is symmetrical tilewise, it's so lopsided visually
18:09:17  <PublicServer> <Sylf> and it broke what I wanted to fix
18:09:21  <PublicServer> <Jam35> it doesn't bother me :)
18:10:08  <V453000> !password
18:10:08  <PublicServer> V453000: boxcar
18:10:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> oi
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18:10:28  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi
18:10:38  <PublicServer> <pietballas> hi
18:11:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm not sure if that fits the landscape what so ever Jam35 :D
18:11:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can send it to louvre though
18:12:00  <PublicServer> <Jam35> Mondrain eat your heart out
18:12:06  <PublicServer> <Jam35> *rian
18:12:36  <PublicServer> <Jam35> well obviously the shape may change a bit
18:12:41  <PublicServer> <Jam35> think it could work
18:12:52  <PublicServer> <Jam35> elongated outer rings
18:13:14  <PublicServer> <Sylf> oh, specify how big you want the inner ring
18:13:25  <PublicServer> <Sylf> 150 tiles 300 tiles, whatever
18:13:57  <PublicServer> <Jam35> approx 150 tiles around central pond
18:14:03  <PublicServer> <Sylf> or, just say, around which lake in the middle
18:14:13  <PublicServer> <Sylf> put that in your plan
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18:15:26  <Dom_> !password
18:15:26  <PublicServer> Dom_: boxcar
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18:16:23  <PublicServer> <Dom> hi
18:16:33  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi
18:17:05  <PublicServer> <Sylf> 5 players in the company.  It finally feels like PSG
18:19:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> im not a player I am a hungover waste
18:19:31  <PublicServer> <Dom> as always
18:19:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> no this cant happen ever again
18:19:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> got drunk like never before
18:20:03  <PublicServer> <Sylf> it won't happen again.
18:20:07  <PublicServer> <Sylf> It'll only get worse.
18:20:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
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18:22:17  <zxbiohazardzx> !password
18:22:17  <PublicServer> zxbiohazardzx: boosts
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18:32:25  <LoPo> !dl win64
18:32:25  <PublicServer> LoPo:
18:32:30  <PublicServer> <Dom> V how about a plan?
18:32:32  <PublicServer> <Dom> :D
18:32:56  <LoPo> lo
18:33:04  <PublicServer> <Dom> hi
18:33:15  <zxbiohazardzx> hmmz i left cause dota2 popped with friend ill expand my corridor idea for that map later (the map is semi H shaped
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18:33:44  <LoPo> !password
18:33:44  <PublicServer> LoPo: gargle
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18:34:36  <zxbiohazardzx> but mainly the idea is to have a H-shaped network topography with dropoff/pickups on the ends of the H shape, cargo game
18:36:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> hai
18:36:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> not quite Dom :)
18:36:48  <Maraxus> !password
18:36:48  <PublicServer> Maraxus: gargle
18:36:51  <PublicServer> <Dom> why?
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18:37:05  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
18:37:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> why yes :)
18:37:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
18:37:10  <PublicServer> <Dom> hi
18:37:28  <PublicServer> <Dom> why not?
18:38:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> becaaaause I am drawing stuff and I want you biches to be involved :)
18:38:56  <PublicServer> <Jam35> *bitches
18:38:56  <PublicServer> <Dom> i've already made a plan! you bitch you
18:39:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure thats good
18:39:45  <PublicServer> <Dom> ofc
18:40:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> do you ever use anything else than TL3 mastermind? :P
18:40:53  <PublicServer> <Dom> i do
18:41:15  <PublicServer> <Dom> i normaly choose monorail
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18:42:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:43:12  <PublicServer> <Dom> and tl 3 hasn't been on ps since a while
18:44:07  <PublicServer> <Dom> since game 249
18:47:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> I didnt say it is bad :P
18:47:32  <Sylf> !password
18:47:32  <PublicServer> Sylf: colder
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18:47:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> RUN HE IS BACK!
18:48:09  <Sylf> MUAhahahahaha
18:51:31  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi Sylf
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18:51:52  <Sylf> hai
18:51:57  <Kyler> hi
18:52:03  <Sylf> hi kyler
18:52:12  <Sylf> come join the game on this server
18:52:21  <Sylf> the map is empty, so it'll run smooth
18:52:42  <Sylf> unless you have a 486 running windows 95
18:53:15  <Kyler> whats the map called?
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18:54:55  <Kyler> can someone give me the link to download the version so i can go into the public server?
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18:55:06  <PublicServer> <LoPo>  !dl
18:55:18  <Kyler> can someone give me the link to download the version so i can go into the public server?
18:55:27  <LoPo> type "!dl"
18:55:31  <Sylf_> @quickstart
18:55:32  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
18:56:07  <Sylf_> you'll have to read that
18:56:29  <Sylf_> if you read that, it'll tell you how to download
18:56:42  <Kyler> !dl
18:56:42  <PublicServer> Kyler: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
18:56:42  <PublicServer> Kyler:
18:57:20  <Kyler> whats the difference from the reqular version and the nightly
18:57:22  <Kyler> ?
18:58:02  <PublicServer> <LoPo> :-)
18:58:15  <LoPo> OpenTTD comes in a variety of versions. will at any point have up to three available; Stable, Nightly and occasionally Testing. There are also many other versions floating around, composed of various user patches, such as Infrastructure Sharing 2 and CargoDist
18:58:15  <LoPo> At #openttdcoop we use the nightlies, though not always the latest, which consist of a development snapshot each night (hence the name) with the latest features (and bugs) added into them. The currently used nightly is kept up to date in the channel topic. To get the correct version to join our servers use the IRC command
18:58:24  <Sylf_> nightly builds have the newest changes that programmers submit everyday
18:58:49  <Sylf_> whoa, a wall of text :)
18:59:32  <Kyler> !password
18:59:32  <PublicServer> Kyler: colder
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18:59:58  <PublicServer> <Kyler> im here
19:00:24  <Kyler> thats awesome
19:00:51  <Kyler> so i can build? really i dont care
19:00:58  <Kyler> can i build*
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19:01:29  <PublicServer> <Kyler> is this just a hangout server?
19:01:35  <Sylf_> obviously you havent read the quickstart
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19:01:55  <PublicServer> <Kyler> srry ill read it throughy
19:02:35  <PublicServer> <Dom> some plans?
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19:03:57  <Kyler> are we makeing plans right now?
19:04:03  <PublicServer> <Dom> yep
19:04:09  <PublicServer> <Kyler> can i pitch in?
19:04:25  <PublicServer> <Dom> sure
19:05:00  <PublicServer> <Kyler> alright, where are we descussing this at?
19:05:31  <PublicServer> <Jam35> find a space and make your plan
19:05:49  <PublicServer> <Kyler> oh i thought this was a group process
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19:06:01  <PublicServer> <Jam35> (see those already made)
19:06:06  <Sylf__> it is, through a voting
19:06:22  <Sylf__> you can collaborate with anyone on your plan too
19:06:48  <PublicServer> <Kyler> this is way smother than the main server
19:07:02  <Sylf__> tsk
19:07:09  <Sylf__> this is the main server
19:07:23  <Sylf__> welcome server is the trash server :p
19:08:01  <PublicServer> <Kyler> i guess il be comming here more offten then
19:08:10  <zxbiohazardzx> haha
19:08:30  <zxbiohazardzx> !password
19:08:30  <PublicServer> zxbiohazardzx: tilted
19:08:36  <PublicServer> <Kyler> so do i have to tell u people where im building ?
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19:09:58  <PublicServer> <Jam35> no just find some flat land, make your plan, others vote later
19:10:14  <PublicServer> <Jam35> no need to tell anyone they will read it
19:10:20  <PublicServer> <Kyler> k
19:10:42  <PublicServer> <Kyler> why are maglev's disabled?
19:10:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> 1972
19:10:54  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> cause trains
19:10:54  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> look at the year
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19:11:06  <PublicServer> <Kyler> oh
19:12:06  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> im having 2nd thoughts on my what first didnt look that bad idea of an H-shaped network :P
19:12:48  <PublicServer> <Kyler> is anyone else building?
19:12:51  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> ?
19:12:55  <Sylf__> what was so bad?
19:13:15  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> we are still planning - no one is building
19:13:29  <PublicServer> <Kyler> is it bad that i am?
19:13:31  <PublicServer> <Jam35> Kyler: have you seen the other plans?
19:13:38  <PublicServer> <Kyler> no
19:13:44  <Sylf__> you can build a plan
19:14:00  <PublicServer> <Jam35> please look at them first and do similar :)
19:14:02  <Sylf__> but not the actual train network
19:14:28  <PublicServer> <Kyler> where do i look at the thing at?
19:14:35  <PublicServer> <Jam35> you are merely making a suggestion of what the  network should be like
19:14:39  <PublicServer> <Jam35> use the map
19:14:45  <PublicServer> <Kyler> ohh
19:15:00  <Sylf__> also, use the signs list
19:15:08  <PublicServer> <Kyler> where is that at?
19:15:18  <Sylf__> i thought allof these were in quickstart
19:15:29  <PublicServer> <Kyler> not that i saw
19:15:36  <PublicServer> <Dom> they are
19:15:46  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hold down map button
19:15:52  <PublicServer> <Kyler> oh there it is
19:16:03  <PublicServer> <Kyler> i always though it was only the map
19:16:17  <PublicServer> <Kyler> what do i do here?
19:16:28  <PublicServer> <Kyler> on the sign list
19:16:39  <PublicServer> <Jam35> click the sign to zoom it's location
19:16:50  <Webster> Latest update from blog: Advanced Building Revue 13: Self Regulating Stations II <> || NUTS Unrealistic Train Set Wiki <> || #openttdcoop Voice <> || Wiki upgrades and list of things to be done <> || Train Servicing and Autoreplace <> || ProZone open to public <> || It is finally here <> || Creating Maps <> || Scheduled downtime of #openttdcoop Wednesday 3am CEST – 3pm CEST <> || Fun with NoCarGoal <>
19:16:53  <PublicServer> <Jam35> mainly the ones marked !plan
19:16:55  <Sylf__> type "plan" in the box
19:17:04  <Sylf__> that's the filter
19:17:20  <PublicServer> <Kyler> what box?
19:17:39  <PublicServer> <Kyler> the voting box?
19:18:10  <PublicServer> <Jam35> Sylf means the black text box bottom of sign list
19:19:36  <PublicServer> <Kyler> so do i make a plan or vote on one?
19:19:42  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> both
19:19:49  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> make one if you have a brilliant suggestion
19:19:52  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> or vote :P
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19:19:54  <PublicServer> <Dom> no voting yet!
19:20:00  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> ah then just plan one
19:20:14  <PublicServer> <Kyler> k
19:20:40  <Sylf__> don't start voting yet
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19:21:00  <Sylf__> Dom's quicker :)
19:21:08  <Edison> !password
19:21:08  <PublicServer> Edison: shored
19:22:04  <PublicServer> <Kyler> how many station do i need?
19:22:27  <Sylf__> it depends on your plan
19:22:46  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> some plans are epic compared over mine haha
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19:22:53  <Sylf__> the network plan i had on the welcome server only had 1 station
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19:23:25  <PublicServer> <Kyler> i finished mine
19:23:31  <PublicServer> <Kyler> its horrible to me
19:23:35  <Sylf__> it was the "dump all of your crap here" plan
19:23:44  <Kyler> lol
19:24:38  <Kyler> so we start voteing now?
19:24:50  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> LoPo actually made minimap for his plan? :P
19:24:54  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> sexy look
19:25:04  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> who made that pointless train lol
19:25:08  <Sylf__> >_< I wanna see
19:25:17  <Sylf__> damn my internetz
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19:27:24  <PublicServer> <Kyler> ill be on youtube untill we start to vote
19:27:35  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> im playing dota2 :P
19:27:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> which we might actually do right now
19:27:48  <Kyler> Ys
19:27:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> hon > dota2 :P
19:28:00  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> we cant vote ourselfs right?
19:28:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> you already did?
19:28:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> by making the plan?
19:28:24  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> how the f ddid that train not crash btw
19:28:42  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> dafuq
19:28:43  <V453000> @stage Voting
19:28:43  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG254 (r24990) | STAGE: Voting | | New players, use @quickstart and !help | | Participate on wiki upgrades!"
19:28:55  <PublicServer> <LoPo> magic train
19:29:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> no oil on purpose LoPo?
19:29:25  <PublicServer> <LoPo> fuck oil
19:29:35  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> map has alot of it
19:29:35  <Kyler> do i vote on the site?
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19:29:47  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> easy to add in his plan though, simply add it on L: Town spot
19:29:49  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but it can be intergrated if you want
19:29:59  <PublicServer> <LoPo> @ steel drops
19:30:05  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> ah true
19:30:11  <PublicServer> <Kyler> so voteing has started?
19:30:11  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> dist to town max
19:31:13  <PublicServer> <LoPo> hmm
19:31:19  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> i assume we cannot vote our own plan right?
19:32:23  <Webster> Latest update from blog: Advanced Building Revue 13: Self Regulating Stations II <> || NUTS Unrealistic Train Set Wiki <> || #openttdcoop Voice <> || Wiki upgrades and list of things to be done <> || Train Servicing and Autoreplace <> || ProZone open to public <> || It is finally here <> || Creating Maps <> || Scheduled downtime of #openttdcoop Wednesday 3am CEST – 3pm CEST <> || Fun with NoCarGoal <>
19:32:23  <PublicServer> <LoPo> weird
19:32:37  <LoPo> wow spam :D
19:32:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> what is weird? :)
19:32:51  <PublicServer> <LoPo> the curve speedz
19:32:57  <PublicServer> <LoPo> i thought it was 125
19:33:07  <PublicServer> <LoPo> with 1.5
19:33:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> CL1.5 is 111 :)
19:33:21  <PublicServer> <LoPo> but now it doesnt anymora
19:33:23  <PublicServer> <LoPo> kk
19:33:25  <PublicServer> <Kyler> brb
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19:35:46  <Kyler> im back
19:35:51  <PublicServer> <LoPo> wb
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19:37:29  <Kyler> so do we just set here now?
19:37:45  <PublicServer> <LoPo> you may vote now, if you want to
19:37:56  <PublicServer> <Kyler> how do i ?
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19:38:40  <Sylf__> take a look at voting booth in the game
19:38:52  <PublicServer> <Kyler> im already done  :}
19:38:57  <Sylf__> it should tell you how to vote
19:39:08  <PublicServer> <Kyler> ive already voted
19:39:34  <PublicServer> <LoPo> you voted wrong
19:39:40  <PublicServer> <Kyler> ?
19:39:50  <PublicServer> <LoPo> you should vote for LoPo ;)
19:39:50  <PublicServer> <Jam35> :P
19:40:30  <Sylf__> oh, we're voting for the least favorite plan?
19:40:49  <Sylf__> ok, vote for LoPo
19:40:57  <PublicServer> <Kyler> is it the most or least fav?
19:41:19  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> read
19:41:23  <PublicServer> <pietballas> Can i vote even if i 'm just spectating for a while
19:41:25  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> the plan you like BEST
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19:41:56  <Sylf__> yes, pietballas
19:42:04  <Kyler> read what?
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19:42:17  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> the voting board description :P
19:42:28  <Sylf__> the chances are, you'll be getting your hands dirty before you know it
19:42:38  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> anyway i think LoPos is kinda clean, but Sylf seems more fun game
19:43:00  <PublicServer> <Kyler> mine sucks :{
19:43:10  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> i think its quite clear :P
19:43:29  <Kyler> ya i agree
19:43:51  <PublicServer> <Jam35> Dom's plan could still tie if all online vote
19:44:10  <Sylf__> !players
19:44:13  <PublicServer> Sylf__: Client 65 is LoPo, a spectator
19:44:13  <PublicServer> Sylf__: Client 56 (Orange) is pietballas, in company 1 (Grenford Transport)
19:44:13  <PublicServer> Sylf__: Client 46 (Orange) is Jam35, in company 1 (Grenford Transport)
19:44:13  <PublicServer> Sylf__: Client 58 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (Grenford Transport)
19:44:13  <PublicServer> Sylf__: Client 67 is Maraxus, a spectator
19:44:14  <PublicServer> Sylf__: Client 71 (Orange) is Kyler, in company 1 (Grenford Transport)
19:44:14  <PublicServer> Sylf__: Client 73 (Orange) is ZxBiohazardZx, in company 1 (Grenford Transport)
19:44:15  <PublicServer> Sylf__: Client 77 is Fenya, a spectator
19:44:18  <PublicServer> <Fenya> i'm noob spec=no have no idea atm)
19:44:22  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> haha
19:44:31  <PublicServer> <Jam35> me too :)
19:44:33  <PublicServer> <Fenya> *no have no idea
19:44:35  <PublicServer> <Fenya> omg
19:44:41  <PublicServer> <Fenya> i'm speaking like thai people now
19:44:44  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> well im cool for whatever, but Sylfs gameplan seems fun balancing stuff
19:45:01  <Kyler> ya i am Sylf
19:45:47  <Sylf__> TL5 CL3 can be tricky, just FYI
19:47:30  <PublicServer> <LoPo> is "A" a four-way-hub or 2 3-ways?
19:48:28  <PublicServer> <LoPo> anyway, have fun, i'm off, drinking beer
19:49:00  <PublicServer> <Jam35> bb
19:49:33  <Kyler> well i gota go
19:49:44  <PublicServer> <Jam35> cya
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19:50:27  <Sylf__> 2 3-ways
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19:56:23  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> i think the voteboard is cpt obvious
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20:08:31  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> anyway why doesnt train 1 crash?
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20:11:28  <Fenya_here> at what point do u usually start building something?)
20:12:00  <Fenya_here> exept for train 1 ofc
20:12:06  <Fenya_here> except
20:12:28  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> once a plan has won the voting
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20:13:38  <mfb-> hi
20:13:40  <PublicServer> <Fenya> ehh
20:13:43  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
20:13:46  <PublicServer> <Fenya> hi
20:13:53  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> hi
20:14:41  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> how the F does this train not crash?:P
20:14:52  <mfb-> ?
20:14:59  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> train 1
20:15:02  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> it makes the most impossible bend
20:15:04  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> simple - you need two trains for crashing to occur
20:15:06  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> and doesnt crash
20:15:20  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> blegh you kidding, it cant crash self
20:15:23  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> lame
20:15:33  <mfb-> we actually used this in one game
20:15:40  <mfb-> psg20x I think
20:15:51  <mfb-> to "roll up" 17-tile-trains
20:16:18  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> haha
20:16:28  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> why stop @ 17tiles :P
20:16:35  <PublicServer> <Fenya> 90 degrees turn is off, isnt it?
20:16:37  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> go go mammoth-trains && win
20:16:43  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> it makes weird turn so its not off
20:16:46  <PublicServer> <Fenya> wtf is wrong with this train?)
20:16:48  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> see train 1
20:18:02  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> fu pathfinder is odd as well
20:19:05  <mfb-> zxbiohazardzx: we had 50-tile-trains once
20:19:17  <mfb-> !password
20:19:17  <PublicServer> mfb-: flared
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20:21:13  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
20:21:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> looks like we have a clear winner
20:21:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> but we need some more decades for the train I think
20:21:31  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> hmhm
20:21:41  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> do we?
20:21:57  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> we got about 73 M for initial trackwork and some trainings
20:21:59  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> 2055 afair
20:22:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> we don't have any maglev yet
20:22:09  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> do we "NEED" maglev?
20:22:21  <PublicServer> <mfb> to run trains: sure
20:22:52  <mfb-> zxbiohazardzx: money is not an issue
20:22:59  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> i kno w it is not ;)
20:23:09  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> but i dont see why maglev is  a must
20:23:16  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> you can build in normal and upgrade/update?
20:23:22  <PublicServer> <mfb> sylf's plan has maglev
20:23:28  <PublicServer> <mfb> of course
20:23:36  <PublicServer> <mfb> but upgrading trains is a mess
20:23:58  <PublicServer> <mfb> (from non-maglev to maglev)
20:24:04  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> hmmz
20:24:14  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> i dont see where sylfs plan mentions it must be maglev though
20:24:20  <PublicServer> <mfb> train 1 uses a known bug by the way
20:24:26  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> ow nvm im blind
20:24:26  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> haha
20:24:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> get heavy is a maglev engine
20:24:38  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> i see
20:24:49  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> and what is the bug t1 uses?
20:24:59  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> pathfinder?
20:25:14  <mfb->
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20:27:45  <dwarf> !dl
20:27:45  <PublicServer> dwarf: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
20:27:45  <PublicServer> dwarf:
20:27:53  <dwarf> !dl lin64
20:27:53  <PublicServer> dwarf:
20:28:05  <Sylf__> depending on the clear winner, there are things we can do
20:28:33  <mfb-> we could cheat the date
20:28:33  <Sylf__> we can cheat the year locally and load the cheat enabled map
20:28:43  <mfb-> but I think fast forward will do the job as well
20:28:55  <mfb-> 1981
20:29:01  <Sylf__> if the intended train is coming soon, start building the ML now
20:29:21  <mfb-> get heavy?
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20:29:37  <Sylf__> by the time we build some stuff, we may get the train we need
20:29:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> 1 vote for dom's plan, 5 for yours, and no others :p
20:30:01  <mfb-> 1984
20:30:14  <Sylf__> oh :P
20:30:19  <mfb-> 3years/min gives 20min to 2040
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20:30:38  <Sylf__> no ottd on iOS :p
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20:31:06  <dwarf> !password
20:31:06  <PublicServer> dwarf: flared
20:31:27  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> yeah FFW should work fine
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20:31:41  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> depending on when the desired train is first out
20:31:49  <mfb-> 2054
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20:32:21  <dwarf> !password
20:32:21  <PublicServer> dwarf: vaguer
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20:32:57  <PublicServer> <dwarf> hi
20:33:04  <PublicServer> <Fenya> hi
20:33:46  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> we can at least remove the non-voted plans and make a global plan already
20:36:01  <mfb-> I'll upload a later version
20:36:19  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> whatever rocks your boat :P
20:36:26  <mfb-> just looking for a method to upload it
20:36:47  <mfb-> if you want to change something, wait, or it will get removed :p
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20:38:59  <V453000> hai mfb/dwarf/rest :)
20:39:02  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
20:39:10  <dwarf> hi V
20:39:18  <PublicServer> mfb-: Password changed to coking
20:39:19  <dwarf> !password
20:39:19  <PublicServer> dwarf: coking
20:39:36  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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20:39:45  <mfb-> omg so much time we missed
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20:40:09  <pietballas> !password
20:40:09  <PublicServer> pietballas: coking
20:40:43  <mfb-> @stage Building
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20:41:33  <PublicServer> <mfb> should come in a few months
20:41:34  <zxbiohazardzx> !password
20:41:34  <PublicServer> zxbiohazardzx: coking
20:41:41  <PublicServer> <mfb> didn't check the month
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20:41:53  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> and we are in again
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20:42:23  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> ok so all non-sylt plans can be removed right?
20:42:29  <Maraxus> !password
20:42:29  <PublicServer> Maraxus: coking
20:42:33  <PublicServer> <mfb> sylf: do you want to sketch the MLs?
20:42:39  <PublicServer> <mfb> don't remove them
20:42:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> as long as they are not in the way
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20:43:26  <Sylf__> sorry, i cant
20:43:40  <Sylf__> i have no real internet connection today
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20:45:04  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah there it is
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20:45:50  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> so we now just start building shit?
20:46:05  <PublicServer> <mfb> building the plan
20:46:15  <PublicServer> <mfb> => start with BBHs and main stations
20:46:21  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> yeah the plan as schetched in Sylf right?
20:46:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> ight
20:46:31  <PublicServer> <mfb> +r
20:46:38  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> never started a coop game before, but i will try :)
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20:47:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> a drop station is easy to do
20:47:12  <PublicServer> <mfb> a BBH is more interesting, and much more work
20:47:14  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> yeah ill take refinery drop station i guess
20:47:28  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> im here to learn, i read wiki and followed a few games already
20:47:32  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> but didnt play one so far
20:47:38  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> so just interrupt me when i mess up :)
20:47:44  <PublicServer> <pietballas> me too
20:47:50  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> whats drop-off-dimensions?
20:48:24  <PublicServer> <mfb> oil? something like ~8 platforms should work to begin with
20:48:35  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> Prufingford Oil Refinery is the one right?
20:48:42  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> aka remove the plan from Jam35 :P
20:48:56  <PublicServer> <mfb> where is that :D
20:49:04  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
20:49:14  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> Prufingford is the lowest i could find
20:49:20  <PublicServer> <mfb> I would expect steel mill there
20:49:22  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> its either that or fund one near slat
20:49:28  <PublicServer> <mfb> we can fund a new one
20:49:34  <PublicServer> <mfb> you don't have to care about existing industries
20:49:40  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> fund one in the slatborough /bronthill area?
20:49:58  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> or prefer it more on the "flatland" near tudingstone?
20:50:04  <PublicServer> <mfb> ganinghall/tudingstone could be nice
20:50:16  <Jam35> !password
20:50:16  <PublicServer> Jam35: whiled
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20:50:45  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> ok then question 2: fund instustry then make station, or make station then industry?:P
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20:50:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> station first
20:51:00  <PublicServer> <Jam35> yay
20:51:03  <PublicServer> <mfb> then you know which space you need
20:51:05  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> k
20:51:12  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> 8 bays, 5 long? or ?
20:51:15  <PublicServer> <Jam35> strange internet cnx
20:51:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> right
20:51:31  <PublicServer> <mfb> 10 or 12 are possible, too
20:52:29  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> yeah bays is i dont care, but i was wondering for train lenghts :P
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20:56:28  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> hmmz
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20:56:34  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> we drive right or left btw?
20:56:48  <PublicServer> <mfb> right
20:56:53  <Sylf__> drive on right
20:56:54  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> figured
20:57:07  <Sylf__> continental style
20:57:14  <PublicServer> <mfb> steel to which factory by the way?
20:57:17  <Sylf__> except for french
20:57:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> both?
20:57:22  <Sylf__> both
20:57:22  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah there
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20:58:46  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> is there an honest advantage of using pre/end over pbs
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20:59:53  <Sylf__> yes
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21:00:36  <Sylf__> pbs really isnt reliable unless you really know what you're doing
21:00:46  <Sylf__> as far as the reaction time goes
21:00:49  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> hmmz
21:00:59  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> from what i played PBS is really not that bad :P
21:01:13  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> though yeah it does give some irregular results if used inproperly
21:01:31  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> but my pre/end/combo setups are rusty :P
21:01:45  <PublicServer> <mfb> + leave space for a pickup station there ;)
21:01:49  <PublicServer> <mfb> +expansions
21:01:57  <Dom_> !password
21:01:57  <PublicServer> Dom_: laming
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21:02:52  <PublicServer> <Dom> yo
21:03:06  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi Dom
21:03:26  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
21:03:32  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
21:03:54  <PublicServer> <Dom> leave me a hub i'll start in 15 mins :)
21:04:14  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm dwarf: I think that is a bit far to the west
21:04:32  <PublicServer> <dwarf> yea, maybe
21:04:50  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> a 5-long train is how long diag?
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21:05:00  <PublicServer> <mfb> 10 half-tiles
21:05:00  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
21:05:11  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> nvm i think i figured it out
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21:08:17  <PublicServer> <Fenya> that hub hasnt even tried a train... R.I.P.
21:08:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
21:08:49  <PublicServer> <Fenya> the one "too far left"
21:09:03  <PublicServer> <Fenya> west, not left
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21:10:29  <PublicServer> <pietballas> gonna give the power station drop a try
21:10:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> outline done
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21:13:38  <PublicServer> <mfb> 4-tile s-curves are not exactly full speed, but that should be negligible
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21:15:00  <PublicServer> <mfb> stupid code
21:15:14  <PublicServer> <mfb> it gives error messages based on the game state at my computer
21:15:33  <PublicServer> <mfb> so I have to wait until the first change comes back from the server (bad ping) to make the next change
21:18:50  <Sylf> !password
21:18:50  <PublicServer> Sylf: founts
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21:19:18  <PublicServer> <Sylf> \o/
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21:28:05  <Firestar> thi all!
21:28:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
21:28:27  <PublicServer> <pietballas> hi
21:28:33  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
21:28:33  <PublicServer> <Sylf> stop hi-ing and come and play!  :P
21:28:42  <Firestar> !password
21:28:42  <PublicServer> Firestar: founts
21:28:48  <Firestar> im about to :D
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21:31:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh wow, that is a crap
21:31:33  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> ?
21:31:40  <PublicServer> <Firestar> ?
21:31:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> close to "A" sign
21:32:21  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I'm having my own oh-this-is-shitty moment
21:32:24  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> haha
21:32:54  <PublicServer> <Firestar> thaha xD
21:35:28  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> can someone check my oil-drop off
21:35:34  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> is it hugely overdimensioned or?
21:35:56  <PublicServer> <mfb> we have a lot of water
21:36:15  <PublicServer> <mfb> so many oil rigs
21:36:30  <PublicServer> <mfb> that does not work as entry
21:36:37  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> i can add boats?
21:36:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> it will block all the time
21:36:43  <PublicServer> <Sylf> nope.  no oil rigs due to newgrf
21:36:45  <PublicServer> <Firestar> shall i try to make one? ive got an idea?
21:36:47  <PublicServer> <Sylf> only oil wells
21:36:49  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, ok
21:36:55  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> mfb ?
21:36:57  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> what where
21:36:59  <PublicServer> <Sylf> oil wells will stay alive
21:37:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> see sign
21:37:09  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> that is a 100% clone from your tutorial haha
21:37:23  <PublicServer> <mfb> where?
21:37:29  <PublicServer> <Sylf> is that on wiki?
21:37:32  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> totorial.sav
21:37:38  <PublicServer> <mfb> I hope not
21:37:42  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> it is for sure
21:37:44  <PublicServer> <Sylf> that thing needs to be nuked
21:37:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> tutorial is outdated :)
21:37:47  <mfb-> @wiki Tutorial
21:37:48  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> i copied it 1 on 1
21:37:48  <Webster> Search - #openttdcoop Wiki -
21:37:50  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> whatever
21:38:04  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> anyway why is it so bad? its 5 long
21:38:06  <mfb-> which station there?
21:38:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> I already said some time ago that we should create a new tutorial save
21:38:08  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> just a bridge but hmmz
21:38:18  <mfb-> the problem is that presignal distribution
21:38:18  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> Factory Pick
21:38:32  <PublicServer> <Firestar> biohazard the cl is too small in it xD
21:38:47  <mfb-> trains will block each other all the time
21:39:06  <PublicServer> <Sylf> for drops, you won't need the mixer
21:39:21  <mfb-> no it is not
21:39:32  <mfb-> and even that is crap
21:39:54  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> if i counted correct then its 5 tiles eveyrwher
21:39:57  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> ugly but yeah
21:40:06  <mfb-> less than 5
21:40:08  <mfb-> and short curves
21:40:23  <mfb-> and with maglev, stopping trains are a real slowdown
21:41:33  <PublicServer> <pietballas> how many drop off stations do we need at the powerstation ?
21:41:44  <PublicServer> <pietballas> will we just expand later
21:42:20  <mfb-> ~6 should be fine to begin with
21:42:33  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> this "SHOULD"  do the trick as well :P
21:42:35  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> paths
21:42:51  <PublicServer> <mfb> that is worse than 2 straight lines
21:42:57  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> but you guys hate it with intense hatred no?
21:43:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> actually, it is the worst thing you can do apart from a single line
21:43:17  <PublicServer> <mfb> pbs is not the issue
21:43:20  <PublicServer> <mfb> stopping trains are
21:43:30  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> i know;)
21:43:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> just do not merge lines like this
21:44:23  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> 5 and 5 no?
21:44:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
21:45:03  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> happier?
21:45:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> no
21:45:25  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> eehm you signalled the other way haha
21:45:56  <PublicServer> <mfb> well the MLs are fine
21:46:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> the connection to the station is not
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21:50:15  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> dropoffs dont need balancers right?
21:50:33  <PublicServer> <mfb> if you have enough platforms, they work without
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21:53:21  <PublicServer> <Dom> dude coal drop is wrong sided!
21:53:39  <PublicServer> <pietballas> will fix
21:53:50  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> thats just signalling fix?
21:54:00  <PublicServer> <mfb> in this case, it works
21:54:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> pietballas: did you read some signalling tutorial?
21:54:33  <PublicServer> <pietballas> yea
21:54:33  <PublicServer> <mfb> as those signals do not make sense like that
21:54:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> (most exit signals just work like block signals)
21:54:49  <PublicServer> <pietballas> at the station ?
21:54:52  <PublicServer> <mfb> yes
21:54:56  <PublicServer> <Sylf> pietballas, can you duplicate that station, so we can have LL_RR line for that drop?
21:55:14  <PublicServer> <pietballas> k
21:56:03  <PublicServer> <Sylf> f***!!!
21:56:14  <PublicServer> <mfb> 2 might work as well
21:56:20  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> ok i have 1 out for dropoff and 1 out for pickup, should i cross them both for balancing?
21:56:38  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
21:57:02  <PublicServer> <mfb> would be better I think, as all oil goods trains go to a single direction
21:57:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> but do it close to the stations, before you merge everything
21:57:36  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> yeah im trying to do it on my current exit, but im not sure how :P
21:57:42  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> as also i will have to cross back
21:57:52  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> unless i change the dropoff, maybe even better
21:57:55  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> grins
21:58:45  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, a volunteer for the second big hub :p
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22:06:41  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> is an S curve considered slow or fast?
22:06:47  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> aka a 1 tile shift
22:06:53  <PublicServer> <mfb> just 2 bends? it is full speed
22:07:03  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> k
22:08:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> Sylf: see your station
22:08:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh thats Jam35
22:08:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> sorry :)
22:08:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> sylf has a station?
22:09:12  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi what have I done wrong now :)
22:09:42  <PublicServer> <Sylf> the twoway signals will cause train blocking
22:12:05  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> ok so i have 2 exit lines
22:12:27  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> how do i "properly" distribute it over the RR connect i have?
22:12:34  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> aka i have R + R and need to go to RR
22:13:54  <mfb-> don't begin with R+R :D
22:14:09  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> R1 = station1 and R2 = station 2 exit
22:14:15  <PublicServer> <mfb> I know
22:14:19  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> so i have R1 R2 into RR :P
22:14:30  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> i can cross them but that wont balance it afaik
22:14:52  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I like your BBH, Dom
22:15:10  <PublicServer> <mfb> you could do something like this
22:15:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> just with proper lengths
22:15:28  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> hmmz ill check
22:15:42  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> though that would be easier after merging dropoff and other?
22:16:05  <PublicServer> <mfb> no. the point is that this IS the merge
22:16:11  <PublicServer> <mfb> 3->2
22:16:11  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> k
22:16:22  <PublicServer> <mfb> you don't have unbalanced 2 lines anywhere
22:17:23  <PublicServer> <mfb> dom: there is a CL issue in the hub
22:17:58  <PublicServer> <mfb> that would be too easy? :D
22:18:08  <PublicServer> <Dom> true :D
22:18:10  <PublicServer> <Sylf> yes, way too easy
22:18:12  <PublicServer> <Dom> ty
22:19:34  <PublicServer> <Sylf> Dom, see "missing x?"
22:19:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
22:19:51  <PublicServer> <mfb> I had a sign "nice idea" there before
22:20:13  <PublicServer> <mfb> check the waiting bay lengths
22:20:15  <PublicServer> <mfb> @Sylf
22:20:21  <PublicServer> <Dom> :)
22:20:35  <PublicServer> <Sylf> oh
22:20:39  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I think I see
22:23:05  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> there
22:23:07  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> think thats it
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22:24:01  <PublicServer> <Firestar> whos makig the livestock factory drop/pickup?
22:24:20  <PublicServer> <Dom> you
22:24:34  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
22:24:44  <PublicServer> <Firestar> nah im only building the tracks :P
22:25:03  <PublicServer> <Dom> ahh that's why they arent straight :D
22:25:13  <PublicServer> <pietballas> i am busy here
22:25:27  <PublicServer> <Firestar> dom i like s-bendi tracks xD
22:27:13  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> hmmz
22:27:27  <PublicServer> <Sylf> holy crap this hub came out huge
22:28:17  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> better now (whoever commented )
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22:29:34  <Firestar> !password
22:29:34  <PublicServer> Firestar: exerts
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22:31:39  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> want me to do steelmill as well?
22:31:51  <PublicServer> <Sylf> can someone check BBH3
22:32:17  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> i only see 1 and 2 haha
22:32:40  <PublicServer> <Firestar> hazard check the sign list :P
22:32:47  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> found
22:32:59  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> meh i shouldnt review it though, im the n00b in her e:)
22:33:14  <PublicServer> <Sylf> you totally should
22:33:16  <PublicServer> <Firestar> im noob nere too
22:33:34  <PublicServer> <mfb> one small CL thing
22:33:48  <PublicServer> <Sylf> hmmm
22:33:54  <PublicServer> <mfb> that won't solve it
22:33:57  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> CL? is what?
22:34:00  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> CurveLenght?
22:34:03  <PublicServer> <mfb> right
22:34:21  <PublicServer> <mfb> that would help
22:34:23  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> k anyway i think i fixed the issue on Oil, so bored can check
22:34:41  <PublicServer> <Jam35> Sylf: signals @ northmost merger?
22:34:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> terraforming at livestock drop?
22:34:45  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I'm trying to keep the waiting bay size
22:34:47  <PublicServer> <mfb> now that is even worse :D
22:34:53  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah
22:37:21  <PublicServer> <dwarf> thats not how it's connected
22:38:11  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> where should the steal station approx be placed?
22:38:17  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> Flunningway or?
22:38:24  <PublicServer> <dwarf> that's still not the exit
22:38:39  <PublicServer> <Sylf> around your plan
22:38:45  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> yeah k
22:39:05  <PublicServer> <Fenya> sylf, i guess u've missed the signal at the north, priority one
22:39:35  <PublicServer> <Sylf> there?
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22:39:45  <PublicServer> <Fenya> specs cant make a sign(
22:40:05  <PublicServer> <Sylf> you can join the company and indle
22:40:06  <PublicServer> <Fenya>  the north west exit from hub
22:40:09  <PublicServer> <Sylf> idle*
22:40:11  <PublicServer> <Fenya> yea
22:40:17  <PublicServer> <Fenya> u've found it)
22:40:19  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> steel mill dims are same as oil one or?
22:40:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> who built livestock factory
22:41:13  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> pietballas i think
22:41:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> I know that but he doesnt seem to respond
22:42:25  <PublicServer> <Jam35> not Firestar?
22:42:35  <PublicServer> <dwarf> who's building at wood station?
22:42:37  <PublicServer> <Firestar> i only made the tracks not the stations
22:42:39  <PublicServer> <Jam35> k
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22:42:53  <PublicServer> <Sylf> firestar, did you lay some of the mainlines?
22:43:00  <PublicServer> <Firestar> ye
22:43:06  <PublicServer> <Firestar> why?
22:43:06  <PublicServer> <Sylf> next time, can you leave more space between LL and RR
22:43:16  <PublicServer> <dwarf> I have to go cook lunch, but I'll be back to finish it
22:43:23  <PublicServer> <Firestar> ok
22:43:25  <PublicServer> <Sylf> between 4-6 tiles
22:44:03  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I said next time :P
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22:44:12  <PublicServer> <Firestar> nvm xD
22:44:14  <PublicServer> <Sylf> but it's all good
22:45:24  <PublicServer> <Firestar> anyway who made those few sign instructions near the woods drop?
22:46:18  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> fuck to close to other industry bullshit
22:46:38  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> i want my freaking steelmill there lolz
22:47:06  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> its the best flat area around there, just to many other industries :(
22:47:21  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> alternatively i could use the ones near satbourne....
22:47:47  <PublicServer> <Firestar> or the one next to fronbourne
22:47:57  <PublicServer> <Sylf> just put steel mill where I put the sign
22:47:59  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> oee didnt see that one
22:48:13  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> nah i see one, i can use that one
22:48:20  <PublicServer> <Sylf> but FYI, it's too early to be funding industries
22:48:23  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> just have to figure out a way to fix that small bit of water :P
22:48:41  <PublicServer> <Sylf> we need to finish all BBH and MSH, then build the SLH before those industries will be used
22:48:47  <PublicServer> <Sylf> and they can close by then
22:49:27  <PublicServer> <Sylf> anyway.  I've gotta go.  See ya all.
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22:49:37  <PublicServer> <Firestar> cya
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22:49:47  <PublicServer> <Jam35> bye
22:49:51  <pietballas_> !password
22:49:51  <PublicServer> pietballas_: mowers
22:50:26  <PublicServer> <Firestar> cya guys tomorrow
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23:22:34  <PublicServer> <mfb> 5 MSHs to build and two stations to finish
23:22:51  <PublicServer> <Fenya> mfb, can u check irc?)
23:22:58  <PublicServer> <mfb> where?
23:23:15  <mfb-> zxbiohazardzx: please just don't build those entry "balancers"
23:23:18  <PublicServer> <Fenya> i've messaged u)
23:23:31  <mfb-> I saw that the tutorial used them in one case
23:23:32  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> mfb entry balancers?
23:23:37  <mfb-> where it might be useful
23:23:45  <PublicServer> <Fenya> and can u send a private message ingame?
23:23:47  <mfb-> !that thing
23:23:51  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> in general use the one like on iron ore dropoff?
23:24:01  <mfb-> Fenya_here: just write it here or ingame to all
23:24:12  <mfb-> zxbiohazardzx: just don't do it ;)
23:24:22  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> then what approach?
23:24:28  <PublicServer> <Fenya> well, i'm a noob, dont wanna disturb everyone)
23:24:47  <mfb-> Fenya_here: pbs just reserves the path to the station
23:25:04  <mfb-> the way out is reserved after the train unloaded
23:25:20  <PublicServer> <Fenya> oh, ok, ty
23:26:26  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> mfb what entry you want then
23:26:28  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> just plain appoach like here?
23:26:58  <PublicServer> <mfb> see grain&wood goods drop, for example
23:27:21  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> ah the monsters :)
23:27:23  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> k
23:28:18  <PublicServer> <Fenya> ok, cu guys, have a good time)
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23:29:05  <PublicServer> <mfb> who built livestock drop + factory there?
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23:29:19  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> your the 2nd to ask
23:29:21  <PublicServer> <ZxBiohazardZx> i think pieterbas did
23:29:37  <mfb-> oh
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23:31:31  <PublicServer> <mfb> V: no hub? :p
23:34:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> I think 2-3 tiles breaking space would be good
23:36:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> im drawing new signals :)
23:36:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> have them almost done in fact
23:36:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> who needs new signals :p
23:36:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> I do :) have some very specific new rail type
23:36:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> which needs new signals :)
23:36:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> and when at it I will also make them usable for other track types :)
23:36:56  <PublicServer> <mfb> new signal mechanics?
23:37:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> what do you mean?
23:37:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> or just graphics?
23:37:24  <PublicServer> <Jam35> organic signals
23:37:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> graphics only ofc
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23:37:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> but they are big, and clear what type they are
23:37:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> combo/exit can be somewhat confusing atm
23:41:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh and nuts will get 40t wagons :)
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23:46:10  <Dom_> !password
23:46:10  <PublicServer> Dom_: piping
23:46:58  <Dom_> !password
23:46:58  <PublicServer> Dom_: cleric
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23:47:13  <PublicServer> <Dom> hi
23:47:39  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi ag
23:48:27  <PublicServer> <Jam35> and gn
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23:53:41  <PublicServer> <dwarf> could someone check the overflow at wood pickup?
23:55:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2 tile waiting bay there :p
23:56:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> how about
23:56:52  <PublicServer> <dwarf> how about that?
23:59:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> +- :)
23:59:46  <PublicServer> <dwarf> thx :D
23:59:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> But

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