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Log for #openttdcoop on 25th February 2013:
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00:01:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> I might make one tomorrow :p
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03:43:40  <BiG> !players
03:43:42  <PublicServer> BiG: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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04:55:26  <BiG> yo
04:56:40  <dwarf> hi
04:56:46  <dwarf> no game going on now
04:56:56  <BiG> well, its finalize
04:57:07  <dwarf> it's already finalized
04:57:11  <BiG> oh okay
04:57:18  <dwarf> we just didn't start a new one
04:57:21  <BiG> :O
04:57:29  <BiG> lazY!
04:57:34  <dwarf> yup
04:57:46  <dwarf> V said he'll generate a new map tomorrow
04:58:33  <BiG> man!
04:58:37  <BiG> hmm
04:58:45  <BiG> that means you have lots of time to join in welcome server! :D
04:58:59  <BiG> seems that a lot of people dont like playing Mars it seems
04:59:23  <BiG> Id be down for more gameplay though , but wished there were more noobs in WS who wanted to team up
04:59:26  <BiG> i like playing on a team
05:04:43  <dwarf> how do you get the mars graphics set?
05:06:26  <Sylf> it's a part of coop's grf pack
05:06:42  <Sylf> @NewGRF
05:06:46  <Sylf> @grf
05:06:49  <Sylf> grr
05:08:18  <BiG> hey bud
05:08:34  <BiG> @grf
05:08:43  <BiG> hmm
05:09:31  <BiG> @newgrf
05:09:36  <BiG> !grf
05:09:36  <PublicServer> BiG: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF
05:11:10  <BiG> getting more snow, Sylf ?
05:12:00  <dwarf> wanna start a new company?
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07:04:03  <Tray> !dl win32
07:04:03  <PublicServer> Tray: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r25034/openttd-trunk-r25034-windows-win32.zip
07:05:00  <Tray> !password
07:05:00  <PublicServer> Tray: knotty
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10:18:21  <pietballas> !download
10:18:21  <PublicServer> pietballas: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
10:18:21  <PublicServer> pietballas: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r25034
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10:20:43  <absolutis> !dl lin64
10:20:43  <PublicServer> absolutis: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r25034/openttd-trunk-r25034-linux-generic-amd64.tar.xz
10:20:51  <absolutis> !players
10:20:54  <PublicServer> absolutis: There are currently no clients connected to the server
10:24:37  <absolutis> !password
10:24:37  <PublicServer> absolutis: knotty
10:24:48  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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13:46:48  <pietballas> !download
13:46:48  <PublicServer> pietballas: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
13:46:48  <PublicServer> pietballas: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r25034
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14:01:57  <krunchyal> !password
14:01:57  <PublicServer> krunchyal: knotty
14:05:46  <krunchyal> hi - can't seem to find toyland 2 mars conversion online? looked here but it's seemingly been removed? http://george.zernebok.net/newgrf/t2m/downloadsold.html#dt2m
14:06:32  <krunchyal> just trying to get on the welcome server
14:08:01  <V453000> try our grf pack
14:08:01  <V453000> !grf
14:08:02  <PublicServer> V453000: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF
14:08:27  <V453000> it is somehow retarded, the download content recognizes it but the site where it links seems to have a different version or something
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14:08:40  <Grasfer> Hello
14:08:57  <V453000> hai
14:09:21  <krunchyal> i'm trying... 2 secs.
14:09:31  <Grasfer> Looking for a config file editor but have not found any
14:09:42  <Grasfer> found one on openttdcoop wiki Common things should be edited with the Configuration Tool: http://openttdcoop.org/config/ but link is broken :)
14:10:21  <V453000> uhm, I dont know whta to imagine under config editor
14:10:39  <V453000> just open it in some plain text editor or use the game gui (not all settings though)
14:10:58  <Grasfer> trying to configure a server for me and a couple of friends
14:12:08  <V453000> right
14:12:16  <V453000> well just do it locally and upload your config I guess
14:12:24  <V453000> if you need the gui
14:13:13  <krunchyal> huzzah - thanks V
14:13:27  <V453000> yw
14:14:28  <Grasfer> hmm, can i enable so everyone can pause and automatic pause the game if noone is online?
14:14:47  <V453000> !rcon set min_active_clients
14:14:48  <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '2' (min: 0, max: 255)
14:15:09  <V453000> you mean that?
14:15:35  <Grasfer> just want the game to pause itself when noone is online
14:15:41  <V453000> we also have a !pause command for our clients but our autopilot takes care of that, that isnt in openttd itself
14:15:45  <V453000> yeah
14:15:54  <V453000> then set min_active_clients to at least 1
14:18:00  <Grasfer> Sweet, Game paused (number of players)
14:18:08  <V453000> yep
14:18:36  <absolutis> !password
14:18:36  <PublicServer> absolutis: knotty
14:19:37  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
14:19:39  <PublicServer> *** Absolutis joined the game
14:19:45  <absolutis> hello.
14:19:53  <absolutis> first time here in a long time :P
14:19:58  <V453000> hi
14:20:11  <V453000> aware, dont worry :)
14:20:40  <Grasfer> Do you know how to increase the time a user can take to process downloading a map?
14:20:57  <V453000> I dont remember it but lets search
14:21:02  <absolutis> humh, it's been two and a half years since i first joined already?
14:21:02  <Grasfer> getting  Grasfer has left the game (processing map took too long) when trying to dload the 2xxx X 2xxx map
14:21:05  <absolutis> goodness.
14:21:25  <V453000> tada max_join_time
14:21:42  <V453000> http://wiki.openttd.org/Openttd.cfg
14:21:51  <absolutis> 2xxx x 2xxx maps are a bit big for multiplayer anyway.
14:22:02  <V453000> ^ sometimes gets outdated, just ctrl+f in your config eventually :)
14:22:12  <V453000> 2000x200 is absolutely stupid tbh
14:22:20  <Grasfer> mmm, i tried looking for max_process etc :D
14:22:25  <V453000> 512x512 is best, 512x1024 is reasonable with a lot of clients
14:22:27  <Grasfer> maybe 1024 is enough then dunno :)
14:22:36  <Grasfer> just feels small with 512
14:22:59  <V453000> you can easily put 1000+ trains on 512x512
14:23:06  <V453000> where lag usually start
14:23:09  <V453000> s
14:23:46  <Grasfer> OpenTTD is fun, even got someone who never played TTD before to get it and join us :)
14:24:07  <V453000> I wont argue with you there as I consider OpenTTD the best game of all :P
14:26:12  <Grasfer> He was negative about it at first, but when i teached him to do simple bus routes to pickup people he started to explore the game himself :)
14:26:58  <V453000> mhm I unfortunately wasnt ever negative about it which is why it ended as it did
14:28:30  <Grasfer> if i set server to lan only, can we still connect via internet? just dont want it to connect to the master server etc
14:29:11  <V453000> probably over some hamachi or stuff, you can do it through lan
14:29:30  <V453000> but if you can, just make it normally without lan
14:29:42  <V453000> you can password the server and whatnot
14:29:59  <Grasfer> hmm i ugess server_advertise false should work to
14:30:02  <V453000> or just password, say, 3 companies, and set max_companies to 3 so people coming cant do anything anyway
14:30:08  <V453000> yes that as well
14:31:20  <Grasfer> anyways, thanks for all the help. Now im ready to start the dedicated server as soon people get home from work :P
14:33:10  <planetmaker> <Grasfer> if i set server to lan only, can we still connect via internet? just dont want it to connect to the master server etc <-- No. Just disable advertizement
14:33:25  <planetmaker> yes... you found it already :D
14:35:03  <V453000> :)
14:37:26  <Grasfer> :D
14:37:34  <Grasfer> anwyays, thanks again. Food+Top Gear time :)
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16:35:22  <pietballas> !password
16:35:22  <PublicServer> pietballas: minces
16:35:43  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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19:10:04  <LoPo> !password
19:10:05  <PublicServer> LoPo: minces
19:10:22  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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19:10:25  <dwarf> hi LoPo
19:10:28  <PublicServer> <LoPo> ey
19:10:38  <dwarf> do you want to make a new map?
19:10:52  <PublicServer> <LoPo> is this one finished?
19:11:00  <dwarf> yup
19:11:06  <PublicServer> <LoPo> oh
19:14:44  <PublicServer> *** LoPo has joined spectators
19:14:55  <LoPo> dinner time
19:14:56  <LoPo> brb
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20:35:40  <Dom_> !playercount
20:35:41  <PublicServer> Dom_: Number of players: 1 (1 spectators)
20:36:23  <Dom_> !password
20:36:24  <PublicServer> Dom_: minces
20:36:35  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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20:36:39  <PublicServer> <Dom> <o
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22:21:59  <ZxBiohazardZx> ohi
22:22:03  <ZxBiohazardZx> !players
22:22:06  <PublicServer> ZxBiohazardZx: Client 77 is LoPo, a spectator
22:22:13  <ZxBiohazardZx> need me to log for you LoPo?
22:26:37  <ZxBiohazardZx> guess not :P
22:26:38  <ZxBiohazardZx> fine
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22:53:05  <V453000> !getsave https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20419525/psg256start1.sav
22:53:08  <PublicServer> V453000: OK :-)
22:54:58  <V453000> !rcon ls
22:54:58  <PublicServer> V453000: 0) .. (Parent directory)
22:54:58  <PublicServer> V453000: 1) archive/ (Directory)
22:54:58  <PublicServer> V453000: 2) autosave/ (Directory)
22:54:58  <PublicServer> V453000: 3) uploads/ (Directory)
22:54:58  <PublicServer> V453000: 4) game.sav
22:54:59  <PublicServer> V453000: 5) restart.sav
22:54:59  <PublicServer> V453000: 6) post_desync.sav
22:55:01  <PublicServer> V453000: 7) desync_start.sav
22:55:01  <PublicServer> V453000: 8) psg235_final.sav
22:55:02  <PublicServer> V453000: 9) psg235.sav
22:55:03  <PublicServer> V453000: you have 2 more messages
22:55:07  <V453000> !rcon cd 3
22:55:10  <V453000> !rcon load 2
22:55:23  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
22:55:24  <V453000> !gamenr 255
22:55:25  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has set gamenr to 255 (next !restart)
22:55:30  <V453000> !restart
22:55:30  <PublicServer> V453000: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
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22:56:19  <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
22:56:20  <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r25034.
22:56:23  <PublicServer> Server has exited
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22:56:57  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
22:56:57  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
22:56:57  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer
22:56:57  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG255 (r25034) | STAGE: Finalize | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands | Participate on wiki upgrades! http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2012/11/28/wiki-upgrades-and-list-of-things-to-be-done/"
22:57:51  <V453000> !info
22:57:51  <PublicServer> V453000: players
22:57:51  <PublicServer> V453000: server_info
22:57:51  <PublicServer> V453000: clients
22:57:51  <PublicServer> V453000: echo doneclientcount
22:57:51  <PublicServer> V453000: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Warnpool Transport'  Year Founded: 2100  Money: 178181363  Loan: 100000  Value: 178253451  (T:1, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected
22:57:53  <PublicServer> V453000: Current/maximum clients:     0/255
22:57:53  <PublicServer> V453000: Current/maximum companies:   1/ 1
22:57:54  <PublicServer> V453000: Current/maximum spectators:  0/10
22:57:55  <PublicServer> V453000: Client #1  name: 'PublicServer'  company: 255  IP: server
22:57:57  <PublicServer> V453000: doneclientcount
22:57:57  <PublicServer> V453000: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Warnpool Transport'  Year Founded: 2100  Money: 178181363  Loan: 100000  Value: 178253451  (T:1, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected
22:57:57  <V453000> oh god
22:58:01  <V453000> !restart
22:58:01  <PublicServer> V453000: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
22:58:20  <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
22:58:20  <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r25034.
22:58:24  <PublicServer> Server has exited
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22:58:47  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
22:58:47  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
22:58:47  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer
22:58:47  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG255 (r25034) | STAGE: Finalize | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands | Participate on wiki upgrades! http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2012/11/28/wiki-upgrades-and-list-of-things-to-be-done/"
23:01:39  <V453000> hm
23:01:42  <V453000> !rcon cd 3
23:01:44  <V453000> !rcon load 2
23:01:46  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
23:01:50  <V453000> !date
23:01:50  <PublicServer> V453000: 24 Jan 2100
23:01:57  <V453000> !changepw
23:01:57  <PublicServer> V453000: Password changed to exalts
23:02:14  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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23:02:22  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
23:02:29  <V453000> @stage MM & Planning
23:02:30  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG255 (r25034) | STAGE: MM & Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands | Participate on wiki upgrades! http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2012/11/28/wiki-upgrades-and-list-of-things-to-be-done/"
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23:05:14  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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23:06:49  <V453000> !auto
23:06:50  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode.
23:07:55  <Dom_> !password
23:07:55  <PublicServer> Dom_: exalts
23:08:06  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
23:08:06  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
23:08:06  <PublicServer> *** Dom joined the game
23:08:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> OMG HIM
23:08:24  <PublicServer> <Dom> hehe :D
23:08:28  <PublicServer> <Dom> i kill networks :D
23:08:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> good there aint any
23:08:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> because it RAN AWAY FROM YOU
23:08:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> I built such a nice network here
23:08:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> and now all lost
23:09:05  <PublicServer> <Dom> muahahahaha
23:09:19  <PublicServer> <Dom> so whats the plan?
23:09:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> you tell?
23:09:39  <PublicServer> <Dom> so why is there a small trian then?
23:09:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> try to make a train like that
23:09:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> exactly the same
23:10:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> without cloning
23:10:23  <PublicServer> <Dom> why?
23:10:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> .
23:11:07  <PublicServer> <Dom> hmm
23:11:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> how is it going? :P
23:11:33  <PublicServer> <Dom> ups
23:11:44  <PublicServer> <Dom> :(
23:11:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> are you fucking kidding me
23:12:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> p.s. that wasnt teh same train
23:12:20  <PublicServer> <Dom> i saw
23:14:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> so
23:14:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> why do we have the train? .)
23:14:47  <PublicServer> <Dom> yes
23:14:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> why isnt answered by yes
23:15:14  <PublicServer> <Dom> oh i didnt see the why xD
23:15:24  <PublicServer> <Dom> to use it for this map?
23:15:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> ._.
23:15:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> not exactly
23:15:55  <PublicServer> <Dom> to make it look cool or to give us the possibility to see that you can turn trains
23:17:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> can you?
23:17:34  <PublicServer> <Dom> no only on nuts
23:17:40  <PublicServer> <Dom> maybe some trick or so
23:17:44  <PublicServer> <Dom> or ctrl alt or idk
23:17:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> ctrl click flips trains
23:19:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> try it :P
23:19:34  <PublicServer> <Dom> sec
23:19:40  <PublicServer> <Dom> making a plan :)
23:19:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> good
23:23:04  <PublicServer> <Dom> @@ clcalc electric 3
23:23:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> 160
23:23:18  <PublicServer> <Dom> ok
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23:35:42  <PublicServer> <Dom> you love those hubs huh :D
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23:35:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> game with more hubs is more fun
23:36:06  <PublicServer> <Dom> true that :)
23:38:16  <PublicServer> <Dom> oh wikipedia of the archives
23:38:26  <PublicServer> <Dom> when has there been the last boost game?
23:38:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
23:38:30  <PublicServer> <Dom> im searching for it :D
23:38:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> pro zone game 13
23:38:43  <PublicServer> <Dom> and ps?
23:38:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> before that probably the example at psg200 and before that psg176
23:39:11  <PublicServer> <Dom> oh right its in the hall of fame :D
23:39:27  <PublicServer> <Dom> ty :)
23:39:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> mhm
23:39:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> undeservingly but is
23:43:35  <V453000> http://www.rouming.cz/roumingShow.php?file=-_Checkmate_-______24.02.2013.jpg
23:43:36  <Webster> Title: Roumenův Rouming - Zábavné a zajímavé obrázky - - Checkmate - 24.02.2013 (at www.rouming.cz)
23:43:57  <PublicServer> <Dom> xD
23:44:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> furball chess
23:45:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> boost games are dead :P 200k is almost unbeatable
23:46:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> 200 169 to be precise :P
23:46:29  <PublicServer> <Dom> i know
23:46:35  <PublicServer> <Dom> but still why not ?
23:47:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is boring as hell
23:47:12  <PublicServer> <Dom> hmm
23:47:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> the ultimate approach is to make no hubs
23:47:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> or a large amount of smaller merges all around the map
23:47:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> which == zero interesting
23:48:02  <PublicServer> <Dom> boost srnw?
23:48:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> same idea?
23:48:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> except you probably need one huge ass ML
23:49:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> I generally more like the idea to spread the traffic over the map
23:49:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> instead of making one cluster of shit
23:49:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> well that isnt exactly true, but ye :)
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23:53:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is a cute SL SRNW
23:53:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> but if you are making it globally you need a bit different approach
23:53:17  <PublicServer> <Dom> ?
23:53:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> aka for example overflow in another sector
23:53:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> psg 199
23:53:50  <PublicServer> <Dom> sec
23:54:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> simply put
23:54:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> why let the trains run around like 500 tiles in overflow
23:54:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> instead of sending them to another place immediately
23:54:40  <PublicServer> <Dom> like this?
23:54:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is again just overflow
23:55:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> what this does is that if train succeeds loading in the sector
23:55:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> it tries to go there again
23:55:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> if it fails, it tries the next sector
23:55:55  <PublicServer> <Dom> ok so like 4 sectors for the map?
23:56:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> what that means is that trains are regulating themselves within the sectors and try to stay there
23:56:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> any number
23:56:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> 199 had 8
23:56:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> 180 had 2
23:56:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> but honestly this map is terribly unfit for some large ass constructions :P
23:56:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> look at the natuer
23:57:26  <PublicServer> <Dom> hmm true that :D

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