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00:02:55 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 00:06:07 *** roboboy has quit IRC 00:19:26 <Rupe> why 5 day maintenance intervals? 00:19:40 <PublicServer> <dwarf> doesn't matter, it's off 00:28:27 <PublicServer> *** Rupe has left the game (leaving) 00:28:27 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 00:30:03 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (general timeout) 00:30:03 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (connection lost) 00:30:34 *** dwarf is now known as Guest1542 00:30:34 *** evildwarf has joined #openttdcoop 00:30:34 *** evildwarf is now known as dwarf 00:30:34 *** Webster sets mode: +o dwarf 00:37:47 *** Guest1542 has quit IRC 00:38:34 <dwarf> !playercount 00:38:34 <PublicServer> dwarf: Number of players: 0 (0 spectators) 02:00:17 *** Rupe is now known as Guest1549 02:00:18 *** Rupe_ has joined #openttdcoop 02:00:18 *** Rupe_ is now known as Rupe 02:02:48 *** Guest1549 has quit IRC 02:03:57 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 02:04:00 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 02:04:07 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has joined company #1 02:06:11 <dwarf> !password 02:06:11 <PublicServer> dwarf: nudity 02:06:39 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 02:06:39 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 02:06:41 <PublicServer> *** dwarf joined the game 02:06:43 <PublicServer> <Sylf> hiya 02:06:43 <PublicServer> <dwarf> hi Sylf 02:06:58 <PublicServer> <dwarf> what do you think about the extended fast maglev? 02:07:04 <PublicServer> <dwarf> I mean monorail 02:07:15 <PublicServer> <Sylf> let me find it first 02:07:30 <PublicServer> <dwarf> picks food up at superheavy 02:08:15 *** Rupe has quit IRC 02:08:46 <PublicServer> <Sylf> ok, so, here's what I don't get 02:09:04 <PublicServer> <Sylf> we started the food pickup with the CL1 superstrong 02:09:26 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I think the food was being dropped at Wedwood originally? 02:09:40 <PublicServer> <Sylf> then someone got the idea of start stealing food there 02:10:02 <PublicServer> <Sylf> but the ships can't handle the amount of food anymore, so we augumented the system with the monorail? 02:10:16 <PublicServer> <Sylf> now we extended that monorail all the way back to the source? 02:10:40 <PublicServer> <dwarf> well, that's what I wanted to do originally 02:11:04 <PublicServer> <dwarf> it would need massive expansion of superstrong to get all that transported 02:11:54 <PublicServer> <dwarf> the transfer to monorail is quite redundant now 02:12:12 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yeah, I will remove it in a minute 02:12:22 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I'm just studying the FPP area 02:12:38 *** Rupe has joined #openttdcoop 02:12:48 <PublicServer> <dwarf> ok, I gotta go have dinner now 02:12:52 <PublicServer> <dwarf> later 02:12:58 <PublicServer> *** dwarf has left the game (leaving) 02:12:58 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 02:12:58 <PublicServer> <Sylf> ok 02:13:00 <PublicServer> <Sylf> see ya 02:13:33 <Sylf> !unpause 02:13:34 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has unpaused the server. 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we have all networks now 08:08:44 <V453000> yeah thats nice ... still would be nicer to show each engine in a separate normal game :) 08:08:53 <V453000> the smaller scale doesnt show their qualities too well :P 08:09:43 <dwarf> :D well, that's what usual PSG's are for 08:11:33 <G-Tus> !password 08:11:33 <PublicServer> G-Tus: stormy 08:11:44 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 08:11:45 <PublicServer> *** G-Tus joined the game 08:16:31 <V453000> well sure, the only problem is that 24 public server games are slightly a lot dwarf :P 08:17:08 <G-Tus> I thought Fast Monorail was the only one that wasn't used yet in any PSG? 08:21:09 <V453000> it is a bit more complicated than "just used" but yes, many have been used already, and many in the right way 08:21:54 <Darigaaz> !password 08:21:54 <PublicServer> Darigaaz: stormy 08:22:08 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 08:22:08 <PublicServer> *** Dari joined the game 08:29:15 *** Mucht has joined #openttdcoop 08:29:16 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mucht 08:34:50 *** andbo_ has joined #openttdcoop 08:38:31 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop 08:41:03 *** andbo has quit IRC 08:42:36 *** dr-dinosaur has joined #openttdcoop 08:42:41 <dr-dinosaur> HAPPY BIRTHDAY! 08:42:57 *** Max| has joined #openttdcoop 08:44:23 <V453000> hello :) 08:44:26 <V453000> and thanks 09:00:54 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 09:01:07 <tycoondemon> BIRTH??? 09:03:13 <V453000> see blog 09:03:27 <V453000> I gave birth 1 year ago 09:06:32 *** dwarf has quit IRC 09:08:05 *** cyph3r has joined #openttdcoop 09:10:45 <PublicServer> *** G-Tus has joined spectators 09:23:52 *** Tray has quit IRC 09:47:09 <Darigaaz> is there any info/article why i should fill trains order list w dummy orders in SRNW? 09:47:57 <Darigaaz> want to make orderless trains but PF acts really strange 09:50:54 <Darigaaz> it chooses long curvy path over straight one till i put 4 reversed PBSs (like 6k penalty) 09:52:22 <Darigaaz> dunno what orderless trains trying to achive 09:53:12 <V453000> orderless trains are almost uncontrollable 09:53:13 <Darigaaz> take longer\more penaltiezed paths? 09:53:14 <V453000> @srnw 09:53:14 <Webster> srnw: Self-regulating Network, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/SRNW 09:53:39 <V453000> no they just take some path, penalties dont apply to them .. up to a certain point 09:53:55 <V453000> I recommend trying orderless trains for later 09:54:20 <Darigaaz> ive read that one 09:54:55 <V453000> there is no article about lost (orderless) trains ... it is pretty much impossible to write one 09:54:58 <Darigaaz> but why should i fill in 255 dummy orders 09:55:01 <V453000> their behaviour is very unpredictable 09:55:13 <V453000> not entirely impossible, but ... 09:55:35 <V453000> because of implicit orders which appear otherwise 09:55:39 <V453000> see for yourself :) 09:55:42 <Darigaaz> isnt 1 order: go to PF waypoint enough? 09:55:53 <Darigaaz> and why are it bad? 09:56:14 <Darigaaz> implicit orders i mean 09:57:20 <G-Tus> Look at the Doombringer network in this PSG, it is an unreachable waypoint SRNW 09:57:41 <V453000> 1 order is enough in case the order is unreachable and only navigates trains ... obviously it can be reachable but then it doesnt do anything anyway, just navigates trains 09:58:04 <V453000> implicit order just spam your order list so you cannot even read it or add more orders ... not sure if you want that 09:58:21 <Darigaaz> where is that network? stations 0-8 - overflow? 09:58:25 <G-Tus> no 09:58:36 <Darigaaz> oh its Sylf's 09:58:54 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> look for the waypoint DOOM!!! 10:00:04 <PublicServer> *** G-Tus has joined company #1 10:00:16 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> or the sign !here 10:00:20 <Darigaaz> yeah. thats what i meant by PF waypoint 10:00:56 <V453000> unreachable isnt orderless 10:01:10 <V453000> unreachable waypoint trains are very well controllable 10:01:14 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> indeed 10:01:24 <Darigaaz> V453000, and why i dont want implicit orders since my orders have no sense already 10:01:30 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> this Doombringer network was orderless from the start, but trains just wouldnt go through the stations 10:02:03 <Darigaaz> yeah.. have same problem as you describe. made PF waypoint and it works like a charm 10:02:09 <Darigaaz> *had 10:02:19 <V453000> I dont really care Darigaaz, you arent forced to want or not want anything 10:02:19 <PublicServer> <G-Tus> with an orderless SRNW you will need logic to force trains in directions I think 10:02:31 <V453000> if you dont mind it, not my problem 10:02:45 <PublicServer> *** G-Tus has left the game (leaving) 10:02:53 <V453000> yes and even the logic can break sometimes 10:03:02 <V453000> or at the very least takes a load of space 10:03:09 <G-Tus> yep 10:04:04 <Darigaaz> ok, thats alot 10:04:07 <Darigaaz> *thanks) 10:04:33 <V453000> you are welcome, just feel free to ask 10:06:22 *** Guest622 has quit IRC 10:06:32 *** cyph3r has quit IRC 10:06:43 *** elecRules has joined 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