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00:05:00 <coopserver> <XeryusTC> found a missing link in slh 4 XD 00:05:14 *** RexConnors has joined #openttdcoop 00:05:16 <coopserver> <Hazzard> Oh 00:05:21 <coopserver> <Hazzard> My fault :P 00:05:28 *** RexConnors has quit IRC 00:07:34 <coopserver> <XeryusTC> :( 00:12:58 <coopserver> <XeryusTC> well, fixed 00:14:44 <coopserver> <XeryusTC> well, i build some huge bridges to fix it :P 00:26:22 <coopserver> <XeryusTC> oh, bbh2 east has no proper merger it seems XD 00:26:43 <coopserver> <XeryusTC> unless i'm looking at it the wrong way around 00:27:22 <coopserver> <Hazzard> That tunnel is disconnected 00:27:35 <coopserver> <XeryusTC> i know 00:27:51 <coopserver> <XeryusTC> but the empty lane is now the fastest to merge to 00:27:57 <coopserver> <XeryusTC> instead of the slowest ;) 00:28:35 <coopserver> <Hazzard> Hardly any trains go south 00:28:44 <coopserver> <XeryusTC> i just noticed that 00:28:48 <coopserver> <XeryusTC> it's weird :o 00:35:10 <coopserver> <Hazzard> I'm going to be afk for a little while 00:35:22 <coopserver> <XeryusTC> i might leave in the meantime 00:35:25 <coopserver> <Hazzard> ok 01:00:39 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 01:06:26 <coopserver> *** XeryusTC has left the game (Leaving) 01:06:26 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 01:18:10 <coopserver> *** Hazzard has left the game (Leaving) 01:27:08 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 02:02:13 *** tycoondemon2 has joined #openttdcoop 02:06:57 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 05:09:15 <V453000> !dl win64 05:09:16 <coopserver> V453000: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r26436/openttd-trunk-r26436-windows-win64.zip 05:09:56 <V453000> !password 05:09:56 <coopserver> V453000: retexp 05:10:10 <V453000> !grf 05:10:10 <coopserver> V453000: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/GRF 05:11:08 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 05:11:11 <coopserver> *** V453000 has joined 05:11:11 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 05:12:57 <coopserver> *** V453000 has left the game (Leaving) 05:52:00 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 06:00:21 *** Djanxy has joined #openttdcoop 06:18:24 *** Hazzard has quit IRC 07:04:32 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 07:09:35 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 08:20:34 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 08:24:07 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 08:30:29 <XeryusTC> !password 08:30:29 <coopserver> XeryusTC: bitnum 08:30:32 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 08:30:35 <coopserver> *** XeryusTC has joined 08:30:35 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 08:33:08 <XeryusTC> !unpause 08:33:09 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 08:33:18 <XeryusTC> !auto 08:33:19 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 09:04:24 *** Brumi has joined #openttdcoop 09:07:14 <coopserver> *** XeryusTC has left the game (Leaving) 09:20:51 *** orudge has quit IRC 09:20:52 *** orudge has joined #openttdcoop 10:51:24 *** Djanxy has quit IRC 11:12:45 *** Brumi has quit IRC 12:24:51 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 12:27:33 <Mark> hi 12:27:56 <V453000> hi noob 12:28:01 <V453000> you put old nuts on stable :P 12:28:08 <V453000> bitches bitching complain complaining 12:28:53 <Mark> yeah i know 12:28:58 <V453000> :D 12:28:59 <Mark> was waiting for you to start bitching 12:29:09 <V453000> :D I dont give two fucks :P 12:29:16 <Mark> :D 12:29:17 <Mark> good 12:29:18 <Mark> neither do i 12:29:28 <V453000> I put there 0.0.1 and 0.1.3 a couple of times just to torture them 12:29:30 <Mark> might need to update my preset 12:29:34 <V453000> y 12:30:04 <V453000> I also saw some discussion that it would be great feature if presets could be updated with new versions of newgrfs on demand 12:30:17 <V453000> but I doubt anybody will code it anytime soon :0 12:40:01 <Mark> who cares :P 12:40:15 <Mark> we need a newgrf to limit primary production 12:40:16 <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart (again, try !grf) 12:40:18 <Mark> is that even possible? 12:40:19 <V453000> would be quite useful actually 12:40:22 <V453000> sure is 12:40:29 <Mark> go make it 12:40:33 <V453000> yeti on the way 12:40:43 <Mark> thats going to take ages :P 12:42:57 <XeryusTC> does Webster just randomly respond to the word newgrf? 12:44:34 <V453000> Mark: yes. :D 12:44:43 <V453000> XeryusTC: kind of, to some combination 12:44:44 <V453000> newgrf 12:44:48 <V453000> I hate newgrf 12:44:52 <V453000> need newgrf 12:44:54 <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart (again, try !grf) 12:44:57 <V453000> yeah 12:45:36 <XeryusTC> so when i say that i need a beer, just like there is going to be in your yeti newgrf, will it respond? 12:45:37 <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart (again, try !grf) 12:45:46 <XeryusTC> seems so :O 12:47:58 <V453000> beer in yeti is unsure 12:48:05 <V453000> or at least in the early versions 12:48:10 <V453000> sane version is likely first 12:48:30 <V453000> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/files/blog/V453000/YETIscheme02-02.png diz 12:48:39 <XeryusTC> seems sensible 12:49:01 <V453000> I figured I am able to make giant wtf through the graphics to the extent that I dont need wtf cargoes 12:49:09 <V453000> so it can make sense and be wtf at the same time -> win 12:49:35 *** bdavenport has quit IRC 12:51:06 <XeryusTC> XD 12:51:36 <XeryusTC> so when will it be done? :P 12:52:46 <V453000> answer is yes 12:53:04 <V453000> idk but it is going to wreck ass 12:53:40 * XeryusTC will buy some ass protectors then 12:54:30 <V453000> you better 13:54:09 *** Mark has quit IRC 13:58:23 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 14:58:15 *** Brumi has joined #openttdcoop 15:07:16 *** dr_gonzo_ has joined #openttdcoop 15:07:41 *** dr_gonzo_ has joined #openttdcoop 15:11:19 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 15:11:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Maraxus 15:15:52 <Brumi> umm 15:15:57 <Brumi> anyone familiar with NUTS 15:16:36 <Brumi> why is the max speed of a chameleon listed higher in the engine list when actually bought? 15:16:44 <Brumi> I know that it loses speed per wagon 15:17:03 <Brumi> but even if I buy only the engine it's 50 km/h slower than listed 15:17:10 <Brumi> that's not even a multiple of 6 15:17:53 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 15:17:53 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 15:18:37 <Brumi> it's the number 2 chameleon "soilwork" 15:24:17 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop 15:26:01 *** tycoondemon2 has quit IRC 15:27:46 *** [2]Mark has joined #openttdcoop 15:27:52 <V453000> Brumi: the latest version adds 2 more units which makes it impossible to have 2-unit train 15:27:58 <V453000> so you get 4-unit train as default 15:28:06 <V453000> there is the difference, I will change the string, thanks 15:28:59 <V453000> it isnt multiple of 6 because the TL0,5 had an extra bonus which is also mentioned in the purchase menu 15:30:08 <Brumi> oh didn't notice the TL0,5 bonus 15:30:14 <Brumi> thanks :) 15:30:20 *** Mark has quit IRC 15:30:20 *** [2]Mark is now known as Mark 15:31:25 <Brumi> one more thing 15:31:35 <Brumi> rail intercity class engines 15:31:55 <Brumi> they have some question marks in the string which shows the wagon capacity 15:32:07 <Brumi> so "???Wagon capacity: 80" 15:32:22 *** [1]Mark has quit IRC 15:32:22 <V453000> hm! 15:32:24 <V453000> have to check that 15:32:26 <V453000> not aware 15:32:34 <Brumi> at least for me 15:32:39 <Brumi> with tahoma bold as font 15:32:42 <V453000> screenshot plox :P 15:33:13 <V453000> yeah I see it 15:34:10 <XeryusTC> V453000: btw, are the different colour tracks all equal but just different colours? 15:34:34 <Brumi> they have some effect on the MEOW class trains 15:34:44 <Brumi> different colour gives a different bonus 15:34:53 <Brumi> max speed / power / etc 15:34:59 <V453000> ^ 15:36:12 <V453000> anything that has MEOW written in the train class gets those bonuses 15:37:14 <V453000> WTF MODEL CANT HAVE LIFE OF 1915 YEARS 15:37:15 <V453000> GAY 15:37:37 <Brumi> why 1915? :D 15:37:53 <V453000> because I have intro date in year 9 15:37:54 <V453000> 0 15:38:01 <V453000> and want it to remain at least till 1915 15:38:13 <V453000> but since 254 is max I will just put the intro date to 1700 15:38:14 <Brumi> when the next one comes? 15:38:15 <V453000> meh 15:38:21 <V453000> 1908 15:38:31 <V453000> I believe no idiot will want to play earlier than 1700 anyway 15:38:38 <Brumi> yeah not too much sense in that 15:39:09 <V453000> I just wanted to give the option to have nuts vehicles ALWAYS available but at the same time I dont want to turn the vehicle never expires on for the very first vehicle 15:39:16 <V453000> screw it (: 15:39:39 <Brumi> ooh we're talking about THAT vehicle age now 15:39:55 <Brumi> I thought you meant the age after which it's "getting old" 15:40:13 <V453000> no no, model life not vehicle life :) 15:40:15 <XeryusTC> cant you have a parameter that disables expiring for some models? :P 15:40:33 <V453000> you either have 1-255 model life or vehicle_never_expires XeryusTC :) 15:40:45 <XeryusTC> boo :( 15:41:12 <V453000> shit happens I moved the intro date to 1661 15:41:16 <V453000> should be enough :D 15:41:48 <Brumi> SimpleAI is broken with NUTS again :( 15:41:59 <V453000> everyAI is broken with NUTS 15:42:00 <V453000> most likely 15:42:06 <V453000> wtf are AIs good for? 15:42:17 <Brumi> some people like them 15:42:39 <Brumi> before purr was in nuts simpleai could handle it 15:42:42 <V453000> that doesnt mean they are good for anything 15:42:55 <Brumi> it always built wetrails but at least it worked 15:43:13 <V453000> nuts is for people who play the game, not watch computer play... and AI only takes CPU and map space 15:43:21 <V453000> with senseless clutter I might add 15:43:46 <Brumi> well I can't rule out the possibility of someone wanting to play with both AI and NUTS 15:45:49 <XeryusTC> some people prefer competitors but dont like mp 15:45:52 <XeryusTC> or cant do mp :o 15:45:53 <V453000> their problem :) 15:45:59 <XeryusTC> but AI for ottd is silly 15:46:03 <V453000> AI isnt competition 15:46:20 <V453000> if AI is competition for someone then he probably has 3 brain cells 15:46:32 <V453000> or 2 15:46:35 <Brumi> or new to ottd 15:46:46 <V453000> no, even new people use sane logic 15:47:22 <XeryusTC> i dont know why you would want to either, but some people apparantly do 15:48:01 <V453000> well then if they are so tryhard to use nuts already, they probably hate AIs already too :P 15:49:18 <XeryusTC> meh :P 15:49:33 <V453000> exact 15:50:23 <XeryusTC> i thought of writing an AI, but it is probably too boring 15:50:36 <XeryusTC> it was way cooler to write an AI for a robot, like i'm doing now for uni :P 15:50:40 <V453000> probably too not-useful :P 15:50:54 <V453000> I guess 15:51:44 *** dr_gonzo_ has quit IRC 15:52:00 <XeryusTC> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHJf365p_zw 15:52:00 <Webster> Title: Nao - Thriller, Length: 1m 2s, Views: 877768, Likes: 3537 15:52:06 <XeryusTC> i had to make one of those play football :P 15:53:21 <V453000> nice I do something similar currently except that I animate characters in 3D software :P same logic 15:53:47 <XeryusTC> animating in 3D software is a lot easier ;) 15:53:58 <XeryusTC> these things cant even walk in a straight line properly 15:54:00 <V453000> well making it move nicely isnt so simple either 15:55:57 <XeryusTC> fortunately for me the walking motion was already implemented 15:56:01 <XeryusTC> but telling it where to go is hard 15:56:03 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop 15:56:14 <XeryusTC> just like making it recognise the ball and goals 16:00:13 <V453000> Brumi: compiling, 0.6.9 on bananas in a couple minutes :P 16:01:47 *** Mark has quit IRC 16:01:47 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 16:02:06 * XeryusTC slaps Mark's connection 16:02:57 *** dr_gonzo_ has joined #openttdcoop 16:04:16 *** Vinnie_nl has joined #openttdcoop 16:04:16 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Vinnie_nl 16:09:15 <V453000> Brumi: http://bananas.openttd.org/en/ (: 16:09:19 <V453000> thanks for reporting them bugs 16:11:18 <XeryusTC> hmm, is there a good industry set that requires delivery from secondaries to primaries? 16:11:22 <XeryusTC> i dont like ECS :P 16:11:33 <V453000> firs is solid with some settings 16:11:39 <V453000> but general question is yeti :) 16:11:43 <V453000> answer* 16:11:48 <XeryusTC> but that is not done yet :P 16:11:54 <V453000> slightly :) 16:12:52 <XeryusTC> i might make a prozone game with firs + nuts + cargo dest then :P 16:13:00 <XeryusTC> or cargodist 16:13:03 <XeryusTC> whatever it is called :P 16:13:19 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 16:13:50 <V453000> cargodist is 100% giving nothing to the game 16:14:10 <XeryusTC> not even with delivering from secondaries to primaries? 16:14:36 <V453000> not even with anything 16:14:47 <XeryusTC> gay :| 16:15:06 <XeryusTC> it was fun in sp when i did pax 16:15:38 <V453000> people had so much fun in the single psg where we played with pax and cargodist that they decided never to have it here again 16:16:02 <XeryusTC> fair enough :P 16:16:18 <V453000> systematically, it is just useless 16:16:26 <V453000> especially for cargo 16:17:10 <XeryusTC> in sp it was fun for pax as you dont have the just dump all pax at the next station behaviour we have now :( 16:17:24 <V453000> for FIRS I have a perfect plan on how to solve supplying and port service but it has 2 networks where one of them is srnw 16:18:03 <V453000> well the current pax thing gives more freedom in where to send your traffic 16:18:06 <V453000> which is a good thing 16:18:34 *** ODM has quit IRC 16:18:59 <XeryusTC> true, but it can also be fun to model your network after the demands of the cargo, not of where you want to send trains 16:20:35 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 16:20:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 16:20:42 <V453000> I guess 16:21:55 <XeryusTC> i'm just going to try it on PZ 16:22:09 <V453000> not stopping you :) 16:22:22 <XeryusTC> if it sucks it is easy to dump it ;) 16:22:35 <V453000> ayez 16:23:13 <V453000> I suggest firs economy set to temperate, it is most balanced/makes most sense 16:23:21 <XeryusTC> nuts, purr, firs, some stations 16:23:31 <V453000> purr is inside of nuts 16:23:47 <XeryusTC> oh, so no need to add it then :) 16:24:00 <V453000> can be contraproductive in fact I think 16:24:06 <V453000> not sure if it can break/overwrite something :) 16:24:11 <V453000> definitely dont add it :D 16:24:20 <V453000> only in case of other train sets 16:24:43 <XeryusTC> se houses is compatible? 16:25:05 <V453000> I think all houses should be compatible with firs 16:25:17 <V453000> supposedly not ecs city thing but you know .... :P 16:36:44 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop 16:40:04 *** Mark has quit IRC 16:40:04 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 16:48:24 *** itkerry has joined #openttdcoop 16:48:29 <itkerry> hi xD 16:49:27 <itkerry> anyone here? 16:49:54 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop 16:50:33 *** ODM has quit IRC 16:50:34 *** Mark is now known as Guest6073 16:50:34 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 16:51:03 <itkerry> !help 16:51:03 <coopserver> itkerry: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Soap 16:52:28 *** itkerry has quit IRC 16:52:58 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop 16:55:27 *** Mark is now known as Guest6074 16:55:27 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 16:56:28 *** Guest6073 has quit IRC 16:58:55 *** Guest6074 has quit IRC 17:41:56 *** Djanxy has joined #openttdcoop 17:46:00 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop 17:52:00 *** Mark has quit IRC 17:52:00 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 18:02:47 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop 18:08:00 *** Mark has quit IRC 18:08:00 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 18:11:14 *** retro|cz has joined #openttdcoop 18:22:24 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 18:35:48 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 19:00:18 <Maraxus> !password 19:00:18 <coopserver> Maraxus: unitid 19:00:37 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 19:00:40 <coopserver> *** Maraxus has joined 19:00:40 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:00:49 *** Mark has quit IRC 19:01:26 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 19:01:26 *** Webster sets mode: +o Mark 19:03:34 *** Progman has quit IRC 19:04:00 <coopserver> *** Maraxus has left the game (Leaving) 19:09:29 *** Mark has quit IRC 19:13:31 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 19:19:12 *** retro|cz has quit IRC 19:35:37 *** AlphaSC has joined #openttdcoop 19:51:39 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 19:51:39 *** Webster sets mode: +o Mark 19:53:23 *** retro|cz has joined #openttdcoop 20:13:52 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop 20:19:54 *** Mark has quit IRC 20:19:54 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 20:24:05 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 20:37:36 *** dr_gonzo_ has quit IRC 20:42:38 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 20:43:02 *** Vinnie_nl has quit IRC 20:43:59 *** Djanxy has quit IRC 21:31:54 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:57:52 *** Mark has quit IRC 22:37:19 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 23:01:55 *** ben1066 has quit IRC 23:02:03 *** ben1066 has joined #openttdcoop 23:02:52 *** tycoondemon2 has joined #openttdcoop 23:06:09 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 23:56:15 *** Brumi has quit IRC