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00:03:45 *** Hazzard has joined #openttdcoop 00:19:47 *** Brumi has quit IRC 00:58:37 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 03:03:53 *** KWKdesign has quit IRC 03:04:07 *** KWKdesign has joined #openttdcoop 03:17:41 *** nicfer1 has quit IRC 03:47:52 *** KWKdesign has quit IRC 03:48:03 *** KWKdesign has joined #openttdcoop 06:16:55 *** Hazzard has quit IRC 06:24:41 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 06:24:41 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Maraxus 07:05:24 *** Wing_ has joined #openttdcoop 07:08:50 *** EyeMWing has quit IRC 08:31:43 *** Brumi has joined #openttdcoop 08:38:49 *** LadyHawk has joined #openttdcoop 09:11:27 *** dr_gonzo_ has joined #openttdcoop 09:15:13 <Maraxus> !password 09:15:13 <coopserver> Maraxus: spread 09:15:26 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 09:15:29 <coopserver> *** Maraxus has joined 09:15:29 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 09:16:13 <V453000> o/ :) 09:16:31 <Maraxus> basecostmod? 09:17:33 <V453000> lol probably mistake 09:17:35 <V453000> feel free to remove it :) 09:25:15 <V453000> !password 09:25:15 <coopserver> V453000: repeat 09:25:59 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 09:26:02 <coopserver> *** V453000 has joined 09:26:03 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 09:26:10 <coopserver> <V453000> hm 09:26:12 <coopserver> <V453000> not many plans 09:48:47 <coopserver> *** V453000 has left the game (Leaving) 09:50:47 <coopserver> *** Maraxus has left the game (Leaving) 10:18:52 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 11:33:22 *** Djanxy has joined #openttdcoop 11:59:22 *** KWKdesign has quit IRC 11:59:42 *** KWKdesign has joined #openttdcoop 12:19:09 *** [FR]Syl59 has joined #openttdcoop 12:19:15 *** [FR]Syl59 has left #openttdcoop 12:19:30 *** [FR]Syl59 has joined #openttdcoop 12:19:34 *** [FR]Syl59 has left #openttdcoop 12:25:17 *** [FR]Syl59 has joined #openttdcoop 12:30:27 *** Djanxy has quit IRC 12:34:53 *** nicfer has joined #openttdcoop 13:48:58 *** LadyHawk has joined #openttdcoop 13:49:34 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 13:49:36 *** LadyHawk is now known as Guest3621 13:56:12 *** Guest3621 has quit IRC 14:14:18 *** [FR]Syl59 has quit IRC 14:23:43 *** Hazzard has joined #openttdcoop 17:00:59 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 17:00:59 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Maraxus 17:33:07 *** KWKdesign has quit IRC 17:33:46 *** KWKdesign has joined #openttdcoop 17:46:32 *** fleet75 has joined #openttdcoop 17:46:34 <fleet75> !password 17:46:35 <coopserver> fleet75: messes 17:51:04 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 17:51:07 <coopserver> *** fleet75 has joined 17:51:07 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:51:32 <coopserver> *** fleet75 has left the game (Leaving) 17:58:43 *** fleet75 has quit IRC 18:49:55 *** Maraxus_ has joined #openttdcoop 18:55:48 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 18:55:49 *** Maraxus_ is now known as Maraxus 19:05:15 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 19:05:25 <Mark> what up 19:05:39 <V453000> hy up 19:05:53 <V453000> .nz? :P 19:06:22 <Mark> yep :) 19:07:16 <V453000> how is stuff 19:07:21 <V453000> fucked a sheep yet? 19:08:00 *** Brumi has quit IRC 19:08:10 <Mark> i have not no 19:08:14 <Mark> great otherwise 19:08:16 <Mark> goddamn cold 19:08:18 <V453000> :D 19:08:24 <V453000> yeti like cold? 19:08:34 <Mark> its snowing atm 19:08:48 <V453000> oh :D 19:08:48 <V453000> fuck 19:09:15 <Mark> how are you 19:09:20 <V453000> fucking amazing 19:09:28 <V453000> made huge progress on yeti, trying to code all animations now 19:09:37 <Mark> sweet 19:10:05 <V453000> also found out that tt-forums are in such major state of retardation that people there dont care about yeti 19:10:18 <V453000> I however found out that people everywher else do 19:10:24 <V453000> e.g. even reddit 19:10:41 <V453000> same with czech servers, those have yeti already :D 19:12:40 <V453000> and since coop is basically dying, at least I have people to get feedback from apart from the welcome server 19:14:10 <planetmaker> yeah coop basically is dead 19:14:13 <planetmaker> no-one cares 19:15:10 <planetmaker> no-one plays anymore 19:15:31 <Mark> its summer 19:15:36 <Mark> will bet better again 19:15:41 <Mark> does every year 19:15:45 <V453000> it has been this way for months 19:15:51 <planetmaker> been declining for long 19:15:55 <V453000> yes, summer only makes it worse 19:15:56 <Mark> it has been quiet yea 19:16:08 <planetmaker> !playercount 19:16:08 <coopserver> planetmaker: The server is empty, noone is connected. Feel free to remedy this situation 19:16:12 <V453000> but unless a miracle happens, this is over 19:16:52 <planetmaker> Mark, the problem there's no-one also who cares about the server, providing new maps, etc 19:17:04 <V453000> I do provide new maps 19:17:06 <V453000> nobody plays them 19:17:09 <V453000> or even suggests plans 19:17:17 <planetmaker> yes sometimes. And you're about the only one who does 19:17:28 <V453000> basically, yes 19:17:40 <planetmaker> that's by far not enough to call it 'alive'. It's rather 'being on life support' 19:17:55 <V453000> well put 19:18:11 <V453000> because that is quite exactly how I feel it 19:18:22 <planetmaker> it would need two or three regular people who do so. 19:18:42 <planetmaker> I wonder whether we have failed in membering people in time 19:18:44 <V453000> one is enough if they do it a lot, like I did 50 games ago 19:18:54 <V453000> I dont think we did 19:18:55 <planetmaker> yes... but that's dangerous 19:19:01 <V453000> there simple arent people who want to care about things 19:19:01 <planetmaker> one is always too little 19:19:09 <planetmaker> yeah 19:20:43 <V453000> welcome server is more or less okay 19:21:14 <planetmaker> yeah 19:21:38 <planetmaker> we should give some people map upload rights. ie. member them, too 19:21:44 <planetmaker> though it seems to work :D 19:21:59 <V453000> there is nobody like that on the welcome server 19:22:09 <V453000> and many of even somewhat active people here/tehre already do have those rights 19:23:06 <V453000> Sylf and Jam35 care about the welcome server pretty well though, Sylf is moving now however, and Jam35 is just missing for a short while I believe :) 19:25:03 <V453000> tbh I think something is up with openttd activity in general 19:25:10 <V453000> czech servers barely have anybody 19:25:25 <V453000> forums are somewhat dead 19:30:22 <planetmaker> yeah, I think that observation is right. General OpenTTD activity is pretty low 19:30:39 <planetmaker> Maybe the game is dead :) 19:30:49 <planetmaker> and we're just kicking a dead corpse 19:31:32 <Mark> :( 19:37:21 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 19:38:34 <Jam35> !password 19:38:34 <coopserver> Jam35: formal 19:38:38 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 19:38:48 <coopserver> *** Jam35 has joined 19:38:49 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:39:59 <V453000> hy Jam35 :) 19:41:23 <Jam35> clear 19:42:04 <Jam35> (warms defibrillator) 19:43:00 <V453000> what up 19:43:13 <Jam35> ot 19:43:26 <Jam35> +h 19:45:53 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop 19:47:18 *** Mark has quit IRC 19:47:18 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 19:50:03 *** Maraxus_ has joined #openttdcoop 19:53:39 <coopserver> <Jam35> there are 2x steel in industry chains 19:54:15 <V453000> yeah its possible 19:54:21 <V453000> I think I fixed it with the next version :P 19:56:31 <V453000> !password 19:56:31 <coopserver> V453000: sawyer 19:56:35 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 19:56:39 <coopserver> *** V453000 has joined 19:56:40 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:56:41 <coopserver> <V453000> yoyoo 19:56:47 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 19:56:51 <coopserver> <Jam35> oy 19:56:56 <coopserver> <V453000> Jam35 joineth, plan maketh 19:57:11 <coopserver> <Jam35> thinking 19:57:17 <coopserver> <Jam35> so may be some time :) 19:57:31 <coopserver> <Jam35> how about one worker yard per primary 19:58:14 <coopserver> <Jam35> makes things really simple 19:58:16 <coopserver> <V453000> sure why nto 19:58:18 <coopserver> <V453000> why not 19:58:21 <coopserver> <Jam35> which might not be a good thing 19:58:24 <coopserver> <Jam35> idk 19:58:28 <coopserver> <V453000> it doesnt really matter with the current mechanism tbh :) 19:58:40 <coopserver> <Jam35> otherwise orders get long 19:58:41 <coopserver> <V453000> anything you do, you end up with the same amount produced 19:58:54 <coopserver> <V453000> but 1 worker yard for primary is good 19:59:12 <coopserver> <V453000> maybe just make SLs, and let people worker yard their SLs as they want 19:59:19 <coopserver> <V453000> but workers dont get to ML 19:59:40 <coopserver> <Jam35> quite nice 20:00:08 <coopserver> <V453000> gtg 20:00:12 <coopserver> <V453000> will be on for a bit later 20:00:17 <coopserver> <V453000> hm maybe tomorrow :d 20:00:17 <coopserver> <V453000> meh 20:00:18 <coopserver> <V453000> cya 20:00:20 <coopserver> *** V453000 has left the game (Leaving) 20:00:22 <coopserver> <Jam35> ok bb :) 20:02:28 <coopserver> *** Jam35 has joined company #1 20:02:36 <coopserver> <Jam35> !unpause 20:03:33 <Maraxus_> !password 20:03:33 <coopserver> Maraxus_: sawyer 20:03:48 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 20:03:51 <coopserver> *** Maraxus has joined 20:03:51 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 20:03:51 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:04:02 <coopserver> <Jam35> handy 20:04:05 <coopserver> <Jam35> hello 20:04:09 <coopserver> <Maraxus> hi 20:13:54 *** Trangar has joined #openttdcoop 20:14:58 *** Mark has quit IRC 20:18:26 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 20:33:05 *** Brumi has joined #openttdcoop 20:34:14 <coopserver> <Maraxus> do you know how to remove newgrfs from a game? 20:34:25 <coopserver> <Jam35> sort of :) 20:34:31 <coopserver> <Jam35> what's the problem 20:34:33 <coopserver> <Jam35> ? 20:34:56 <coopserver> <Maraxus> basecost mod is in the game with non-optimal settings 20:35:06 <coopserver> <Jam35> ooh ok 20:35:30 <coopserver> <Jam35> hm stable-ish settings 20:35:43 <coopserver> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 20:35:43 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:35:45 <coopserver> <Jam35> sec 20:35:57 <coopserver> *** Jam35 has left the game (Leaving) 20:44:07 <Jam35> I have weird settings in ps version 20:44:33 <Jam35> scenario developer won;t stay set as true 20:46:27 <Jam35> so I change it to true 20:46:36 <Jam35> restart game 20:46:41 <Jam35> goes false again 20:46:47 <Jam35> what?? :) 20:47:32 <Maraxus_> hmm - what's your operating system? 20:47:41 <Jam35> windows 7 20:48:04 <Maraxus_> and your ps-installation directory? 20:48:28 <Jam35> er, desktop 20:48:40 <Jam35> users/etc 20:49:53 <coopserver> *** Maraxus has left the game (general timeout) 20:50:02 <Jam35> serching for conflicting others 20:50:07 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 20:50:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Maraxus 20:50:19 <Maraxus> strange - only thing I can think of is lack of user rights to edit the config-file 20:50:35 <Jam35> it saves ok 20:50:41 <Jam35> i reopen the file and is ok 20:50:51 <Jam35> only when I start the game again 20:50:55 <Jam35> changes 20:53:52 *** Progman has quit IRC 20:54:10 <Maraxus> testing something... 20:54:21 *** dr_gonzo_ has quit IRC 20:56:33 *** Djanxy has joined #openttdcoop 20:56:47 *** Maraxus_ has quit IRC 20:59:40 <Maraxus> can't find any errors changing scenario_developer to true - keeps setting fine, so no idea what's going on with yours 21:01:39 <Maraxus> !password 21:01:39 <coopserver> Maraxus: deduct 21:01:57 <Jam35> the install(s) just need cleaning up 21:01:59 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 21:02:02 <coopserver> *** Maraxus has joined 21:02:02 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:02:02 <Jam35> think I have it 21:02:51 <coopserver> *** Maraxus has left the game (Leaving) 21:04:32 <Jam35> !getsave https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/51134233/Little%20Sedingstone%20Transport%2C%2010th%20May%202102.sav 21:04:32 <coopserver> Starting download... 21:04:35 <coopserver> Savegame successfully downloaded 21:04:39 <Jam35> !rcon ls 21:04:40 <coopserver> 0) .. (Parent directory) 21:04:41 <coopserver> 1) Little%20Sedingstone%20Transport%2C%2010th%20May%202102.sav 21:04:42 <coopserver> 2) psg283start1.sav 21:04:43 <coopserver> 3) psg282YETI.sav 21:04:44 <coopserver> 4) psg281start2.sav 21:04:45 <coopserver> Jam35: You have 34 more messages. Type !less to view them 21:04:47 <Jam35> !rcon load 1 21:04:48 <coopserver> Starting new game 21:04:53 <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org) (Version r26650) 21:04:53 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 21:05:14 <Jam35> !password 21:05:14 <coopserver> Jam35: deduct 21:05:20 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (manual, connecting clients, number of players) 21:05:45 <coopserver> *** Jam35 has joined 21:05:46 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 21:06:07 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (manual, connecting clients, number of players) 21:06:10 <coopserver> *** Maraxus has joined 21:06:10 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 21:07:01 <coopserver> *** Jam35 has joined company #1 21:07:01 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (manual) 21:07:14 <Jam35> !auto 21:07:15 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (manual) 21:07:43 <coopserver> <Jam35> except it kept the old values? :) 21:08:07 <coopserver> <Jam35> idk £40k for water tf 21:08:26 <coopserver> <Jam35> maybe that's normal 21:08:35 *** Trangar has quit IRC 21:09:22 <coopserver> <Maraxus> that's normal - on welcome server water terraforming is usually millions pr tile 21:09:39 <coopserver> <Jam35> yeah it was 512x 21:09:56 <coopserver> <Jam35> no way it's that high 21:10:34 <coopserver> <Jam35> or low 21:10:36 <coopserver> <Jam35> :) 21:11:33 <coopserver> <Maraxus> well - we have resonable settings now :) 21:12:05 <coopserver> <Jam35> it took some doing:) 21:12:09 <coopserver> <Jam35> surprisingly 21:12:33 <coopserver> <Jam35> I might have to remove all ottd and start again 21:12:47 <coopserver> <Jam35> it's in too many places :) 21:15:04 <coopserver> <Maraxus> as in too many installs? 21:15:43 <coopserver> <Jam35> can't quite figure though, why load a .cfg then write a new .cfg in a different place 21:15:52 <coopserver> <Jam35> kind of yes 21:16:15 <coopserver> <Jam35> what seems to happen at least 21:16:59 <coopserver> <Jam35> only by placing a new config file in the folder of the .exe would it worl 21:17:03 <coopserver> <Jam35> *work 21:17:34 <coopserver> <Jam35> the one in documents just got overwritten each time 21:18:46 <coopserver> <Maraxus> I only use the config-file in documents with my 3 installs - works fine so far 21:19:35 <coopserver> <Jam35> that is what I need to do 21:20:12 <coopserver> <Jam35> I tried moving everything there before but had trouble finding grfs for some reason 21:20:52 <coopserver> <Jam35> as in it would not find them unless I put them back :) 21:22:08 <coopserver> <Maraxus> my newgrfs are all in documents/openttd/content_download 21:22:27 *** Mark has quit IRC 21:23:49 <coopserver> <Jam35> I have some stuff in newgrf folder 21:23:53 <coopserver> <Jam35> like coop pack 21:24:02 <coopserver> <Jam35> that folder may be real old by now 21:24:04 <coopserver> <Jam35> as 21:24:17 <coopserver> <Jam35> as in not in use anymore 21:27:11 <Maraxus> your plan done? 21:29:07 <coopserver> <Jam35> pretty much 21:29:15 <coopserver> <Jam35> I gtg actually 21:29:21 <coopserver> *** Jam35 has left the game (Leaving) 21:29:21 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:29:37 <Jam35> cya later 21:29:43 <Maraxus> mee too - gn 21:30:00 <coopserver> *** Maraxus has left the game (Leaving) 21:30:16 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 22:33:37 *** bdavenport has quit IRC 22:57:59 *** Brumi has quit IRC 23:08:59 *** bdavenport has joined #openttdcoop