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Log for #openttdcoop on 5th February 2015:
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18:14:57  <StarLite> !password
18:14:57  <coopserver> StarLite: tempid
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20:07:44  <fair_> is there anything happening at the public server ? it kind of died
20:07:56  <fair_> the activity, not the server
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20:22:13  <Jam35> lately at least, interest seems to drop when expansion is needed
20:22:27  <Jam35> start of game has a fair amount of interest
20:24:44  <Jam35> admittedly it gets a bit samey
20:25:05  <Jam35> find a way to get another line/bridge/tunnel here again & again
20:29:02  <Jam35> stable server is pretty dead too
20:29:21  <V453000> that is just cause people are cunts and dont download RCs
20:30:42  <V453000> but yeah, idk what to do with the public server tbh
20:31:03  <V453000> I proposed earlier that if we had periodical like every-week restart, scheduled so people know about it, it would get at least somewhat better
20:31:08  <V453000> sure, it wont bring the old huge great games back
20:31:19  <V453000> but there is pro zone if someone has the urge to do that
20:32:09  <Jam35> yeah, that was my thought if a certain game had people wanting to continue it
20:32:24  <Jam35> wasn't sure it was up or not
20:32:30  <V453000> what I would do is new game every e.g. thursday
20:32:44  <V453000> but someone has to care about it
20:33:03  <V453000> and that cant be me, I spend way too much time with newgrfs already :)
20:33:38  <Jam35> there should be enough people but none of them want the sole responsibility i guess
20:34:03  <Jam35> me for one
20:34:22  <V453000> its not like it is a responsibility, making one map every week is nothing :)
20:36:05  <Jam35> but your kind of saying you have to be around on a certain day and so on
20:36:21  <V453000> not really
20:36:31  <Jam35> and keeping the map interesting in terms of play
20:36:31  <V453000> just propose a map once per week, anybody can load it
20:36:37  <V453000> nah neither
20:36:43  <V453000> every map is interesting for a week
20:36:47  <V453000> and if it isnt, one bad week is nothing
20:36:52  <Jam35> maybe
20:36:58  <V453000> certainly :)
20:38:48  <Jam35> I would consider it more of an effort as I don't really like randomly generating all the time
20:38:50  <V453000> btw https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/DOOM/DOOM_test_2_0000.png
20:39:04  <V453000> eh there can be a few sets from whichto generate
20:39:09  <Jam35> prefer to make something more unique
20:39:14  <V453000> and if someone feels like it, they can always make it manually
20:39:22  <V453000> currently we dont need unique, we need -something- :)
20:39:34  <V453000> and well, there arent that many options of what to make
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20:40:56  <Jam35> hmm :)
20:41:00  <Jam35> bendy trains
20:41:10  <fair_> =)
20:41:17  <V453000> they will be awesome I tell you
20:41:51  <V453000> and I am not even getting started on ultra caterpillars, superslug zebras, and pigcow-dragged carriages :P
20:43:07  <Jam35> spoiler alert pls :P
20:43:13  <V453000> :P
20:43:21  <fair_> I would like to get into actually playing on the public server someday, but currently I lack the skills
20:43:34  <V453000> you dont fair
20:43:37  <V453000> just build and learn :)
20:43:40  <o11c> fair_: it's not hard
20:43:48  <V453000> you learn by making mistakes, there is no better way to do so
20:43:53  <o11c> you'll probably only screw up a couple times and there are plenty of other people around
20:44:32  <o11c> it only took a couple of games and Sylf was telling people to listen to me on the Welcome server
20:44:55  <fair_> =)
20:44:56  <o11c> current PSG is planless though which is not a great game to join
20:45:06  <V453000> we should scrap the game asap
20:45:09  <o11c> also if there's a SRNW that's not great to join
20:45:10  <V453000> and start a new one
20:45:14  <V453000> id say even tonight
20:45:17  <o11c> you're the @
20:45:26  <V453000> sure
20:45:42  <V453000> I just dont want to be the one taking initiative anymoe because I know I will not play :) newgrfs are top priority for me
20:45:47  <V453000> I did my share in the past :P
20:46:03  <V453000> I am just hinting it so if anybody wants, I can load their map :P
20:46:20  <o11c> fair_: in some ways pax is the most enjoyable as a new player, since there's a fairly clear separation between players but they still work together, but I learned on cargo games.
20:46:31  <Jam35> don't you have a map uploaded already?
20:46:33  <V453000> yeah pax games are nice :)
20:46:39  <V453000> I dont think I do Jam35
20:46:49  <Jam35> !rcon ls
20:46:50  <coopserver> 0) .. (Parent directory)
20:46:51  <coopserver> 1) PS_RAWR001.sav
20:46:52  <coopserver> 2) PSG292_2.sav
20:46:53  <V453000> actualyl
20:46:54  <coopserver> 3) PSG292.sav
20:46:54  <V453000> XD
20:46:55  <V453000> yeah
20:46:56  <coopserver> 4) PSG_291_2.sav
20:46:56  <V453000> gogo
20:46:56  <V453000> XD
20:46:57  <coopserver> Jam35: You have 55 more messages. Type !less to view them
20:46:59  <V453000> forgot 100%
20:46:59  <Jam35> :)))
20:47:26  <Jam35> !rcon load 1
20:47:27  <coopserver> Starting new game
20:47:38  <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org) (Version r27122)
20:47:39  <coopserver> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
20:47:57  <V453000> !dl win64
20:47:57  <coopserver> V453000: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r27122/openttd-trunk-r27122-windows-win64.zip
20:47:59  <V453000> !setdef
20:47:59  <coopserver> V453000: Setting default settings: set ai_in_multiplayer 0, set extra_dynamite 1, set forbid_90_deg 1, set mod_road_rebuild 1, set order.no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns 1, set path_backoff_interval 1, set train_acceleration_model 1, set vehicle_breakdowns 0, set wait_for_pbs_path 255, set wait_oneway_signal 255, set wait_twoway_signal 255, and set yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol 1
20:48:06  <Jam35> owait
20:48:20  <Jam35> archiving?
20:48:32  <V453000> idk :)
20:48:34  <V453000>  /care
20:48:34  <Jam35> never done it
20:49:22  <V453000> !password
20:49:22  <coopserver> V453000: served
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20:49:48  <coopserver> <V453000> :)
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20:49:53  <V453000> !auto
20:49:55  <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:50:21  <Jam35> !password
20:50:21  <coopserver> Jam35: sought
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20:51:41  <fair_> !password
20:51:41  <coopserver> fair_: sought
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20:52:42  <coopserver> <fair> hmm the map is empty
20:52:45  <coopserver> <Jam35> the ground looks hard close up
20:52:58  <coopserver> <Jam35> but reminds me of snow
20:53:42  <coopserver> <V453000> is meant to be kind of paper
20:54:02  <coopserver> <V453000> you might want to cheat some money or start making them :P
20:55:14  <coopserver> *** Jam35 has left the game (Leaving)
20:56:52  <Jam35> !getsave https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/51134233/Unnamed%2C%204th%20Feb%202100.sav
20:56:52  <coopserver> Starting download...
20:56:54  <coopserver> Savegame successfully downloaded
20:57:01  <Jam35> !rcon load 1
20:57:02  <coopserver> Starting new game
20:57:03  <coopserver> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
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20:57:05  <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org) (Version r27122)
20:57:06  <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players)
20:57:24  <Jam35> !password
20:57:24  <coopserver> Jam35: looked
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20:57:57  <o11c> sigh, 300 MB of download ...
20:58:24  <V453000> is that a problem for you?
21:00:34  <V453000> [serious question]
21:01:49  <coopserver> *** Jam35 has joined spectators
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21:03:24  <coopserver> <V453000> any plans Jam35,
21:03:26  <coopserver> <V453000> ?
21:04:04  <Jam35> no I was looking for an autosave from previous game
21:04:38  <Jam35> didn't want to just lose it like that
21:05:22  <Jam35> does the game need to be loaded to archive it?
21:05:41  <V453000> yes
21:05:46  <V453000> or from a save on the server
21:08:18  <coopserver> *** Jam35 has left the game (Leaving)
21:09:06  <Jam35> I only have an old version here
21:10:02  <coopserver> Starting new game
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21:10:04  <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org) (Version r27122)
21:10:05  <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players)
21:10:21  <Jam35> !Password
21:10:21  <coopserver> Jam35: revere
21:10:30  <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players)
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21:10:36  <o11c> V453000: problem? No. Serious annoyance with USA internet? Yes.
21:11:06  <coopserver> *** Jam35 has left the game (Leaving)
21:11:52  <coopserver> Starting new game
21:11:53  <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org) (Version r27122)
21:11:54  <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players)
21:12:13  <Jam35> !password
21:12:13  <coopserver> Jam35: caught
21:12:22  <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players)
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21:13:06  <V453000> USA has that bad internet? :0
21:13:08  <coopserver> *** Jam35 has joined spectators
21:13:57  <Jam35> !getsave https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/51134233/PSG%20292_Final.sav
21:13:57  <coopserver> Starting download...
21:13:59  <coopserver> Savegame successfully downloaded
21:17:00  <o11c> V453000: I have 1.5 Mbps, which is considered. that's 150 KB/s, or 30 minutes to download a 300 MB file
21:17:09  <V453000> :0
21:17:10  <o11c> s/considered/considered good/
21:17:38  <V453000> 10Mbps+ is considered like minimum here
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21:18:20  <V453000> but yeah I will probably not be adding RAWR to servers very often :) everybody can put that to their own static newgrf
21:20:33  <XeryusTC> 180mbps master race
21:22:40  <V453000> I have 60Mbps at home which is like the cheapest this company offers, and I cant really think why would I need any faster
21:23:06  <Jam35> !transfer 292 PSG%20292_Final.sav
21:23:06  <coopserver> Jam35: Attempting to transfer PSG%20292_Final.sav
21:23:07  <V453000> sure, when I upload 100MB max scene, or push 1GB of newgrf stuff, but how often does that happen :)
21:23:08  <coopserver> Jam35: Couldn't find file, please specify a valid savegame
21:23:40  <Jam35> !transfer 292 PSG 292_Final.sav
21:24:25  <Jam35> !gamenr
21:24:35  <Jam35> !gamenr 293
21:24:47  <XeryusTC> i'm sharing the cost with 5 other people, so i am happy to pay like €7 per month for this speed :P
21:28:07  <coopserver> *** Jam35 has left the game (Leaving)
21:29:02  <o11c> !password
21:29:02  <coopserver> o11c: switch
21:29:08  <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players)
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21:29:56  <coopserver> <o11c> huh, never played toyland for serious
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21:34:51  <coopserver> <o11c> wow not a lot of industries, gonna need to do some funding
21:36:52  <coopserver> <o11c> er, game paused?
21:38:13  <coopserver> <o11c> !admin
21:38:14  <coopserver> *** o11c has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.)
21:38:28  <coopserver> <o11c> please change min number of players to 1
21:38:40  <coopserver> *** o11c has joined spectators
21:38:46  <coopserver> <o11c> I will spectate until then
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21:48:21  <fair_> still spectating ?
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21:57:16  <V453000> !unpause
21:57:17  <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
22:00:29  <coopserver> *** o11c has started a new company #1
22:00:36  <coopserver> *** o11c has joined spectators
22:00:50  <coopserver> <o11c> hm, but now it is unpaused even with no players in a company
22:01:12  <coopserver> *** o11c has joined company #1
22:01:47  <coopserver> <o11c> er what? there's no money
22:02:03  <coopserver> <o11c> ah right, the company got deleted somehow
22:02:11  <coopserver> *** o11c has left the game (Leaving)
22:02:57  * o11c will just have to wait until someone figure out what to fix
22:32:46  <V453000> XD
22:32:49  <V453000> !rcon ls
22:32:50  <coopserver> 0) .. (Parent directory)
22:32:51  <coopserver> 1) PSG%20292_Final.sav
22:32:52  <coopserver> 2) Unnamed%2C%204th%20Feb%202100.sav
22:32:53  <coopserver> 3) PS_RAWR001.sav
22:32:54  <V453000> !rcon load 2
22:32:54  <coopserver> 4) PSG292_2.sav
22:32:55  <coopserver> V453000: You have 57 more messages. Type !less to view them
22:32:56  <coopserver> Starting new game
22:32:57  <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org) (Version r27122)
22:32:58  <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players)
22:33:01  <V453000> !auto
22:33:07  <V453000> !rcon set min_active_clients
22:33:08  <coopserver> Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '2' (min: 0, max: 255)
22:33:11  <V453000> !rcon set min_active_clients 1
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23:52:30  <o11c> !password
23:52:30  <coopserver> o11c: deeper
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