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00:15:42 *** cha0tics has quit IRC 00:20:40 *** Asgeir has quit IRC 00:32:43 *** dwarf has joined #openttdcoop 00:32:47 <dwarf> !pw 00:32:47 <coopserver> dwarf: korean 00:33:16 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 00:33:25 <coopserver> *** dwarf has joined 00:33:26 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 00:33:27 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 00:35:16 <happpy> wb dwarf 01:09:44 <coopserver> *** dwarf has joined spectators 01:09:45 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 01:19:03 <coopserver> *** dwarf has joined company #1 01:19:04 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 01:30:59 <coopserver> *** dwarf has left the game (Leaving) 01:31:00 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 02:32:51 *** happpy has left #openttdcoop 02:42:53 <dwarf> !pw 02:42:53 <coopserver> dwarf: forked 02:43:10 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 02:43:21 <coopserver> *** dwarf has joined 02:43:22 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 02:43:23 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 03:24:04 *** TrangarLaptop has joined #openttdcoop 03:46:59 <coopserver> *** dwarf has left the game (Leaving) 03:47:00 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 04:08:32 *** dwarf has quit IRC 04:10:50 *** TrangarLaptop has quit IRC 04:33:40 *** dwarf has joined #openttdcoop 04:33:43 <dwarf> !pw 04:33:43 <coopserver> dwarf: french 04:34:02 <dwarf> !pw 04:34:02 <coopserver> dwarf: french 04:34:12 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 04:34:20 <coopserver> *** dwarf has joined 04:34:21 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 04:34:22 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 05:16:25 *** liq3 has quit IRC 05:32:26 <dwarf> !tunnel 3 05:32:33 <dwarf> !gap 3 05:32:39 <dwarf> @gap 3 05:32:39 <Webster> dwarf: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4. 05:35:11 <coopserver> *** dwarf has left the game (Leaving) 05:35:12 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 05:35:39 *** dwarf_ has joined #openttdcoop 05:35:43 <dwarf_> !wp 05:35:45 <dwarf_> !pw 05:35:45 <coopserver> dwarf_: master 05:35:59 <dwarf_> !pw 05:35:59 <coopserver> dwarf_: vertex 05:36:08 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 05:36:14 <coopserver> *** dwarf has joined 05:36:15 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 05:36:16 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 05:40:42 *** dwarf has quit IRC 06:06:32 <dwarf_> @curve 06:06:41 <dwarf_> @curvespeed 06:21:30 <Taede> you want @cl 06:21:35 <Taede> <- off to work now 06:21:45 <dwarf_> @cl 06:21:45 <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed 06:22:06 <dwarf_> there is helper function 06:22:21 <Taede> @clcalc 06:22:21 <Webster> Taede: (clcalc <railtype> [<tilt>] <cl|km/h>) -- For a number <30 this calculates the speed for <cl> on <railtype>. For any other numbers, this calculates the CL required for <railtype> travelling at <km/h>, assuming TL is small enough. [<tilt>] will apply tilt bonuses to the calculation. 06:22:24 <Taede> ^ 06:23:01 <dwarf_> right 06:23:11 <dwarf_> @clcalc rail 2 06:23:11 <Webster> dwarf_: A rail Curve Length of 2 (3 half tiles) gives a speed of 132km/h or 82mph 06:23:17 <dwarf_> @clcalc rail 1 06:23:17 <Webster> dwarf_: A rail Curve Length of 1 (1 half tiles) gives a speed of 88km/h or 55mph 06:23:26 <dwarf_> @clcalc rail 1.5 06:23:26 <Webster> dwarf_: A rail Curve Length of 1 (1 half tiles) gives a speed of 88km/h or 55mph 06:41:05 *** Trangar has joined #openttdcoop 06:48:20 <coopserver> *** dwarf has left the game (Leaving) 06:48:21 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 06:55:58 *** dwarf_ has quit IRC 08:35:23 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 08:50:50 *** Trangar has quit IRC 10:24:14 *** cha0tics has joined #openttdcoop 10:33:35 *** Progman has quit IRC 11:00:22 *** happpymoblic is now known as happpy 11:12:57 <cha0tics> !pw 11:12:57 <coopserver> cha0tics: errror 11:13:07 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 11:13:12 <coopserver> *** cha0tics has joined 11:13:13 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:18:56 <coopserver> *** cha0tics has joined company #1 11:18:57 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 11:27:33 <coopserver> *** cha0tics has left the game (general timeout) 11:27:34 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 11:57:22 *** StarLite has joined #openttdcoop 11:57:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o StarLite 12:32:16 <cha0tics> !pw 12:32:16 <coopserver> cha0tics: frosch 12:32:24 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 12:32:27 <coopserver> *** cha0tics has joined 12:32:28 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 12:32:29 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 12:39:13 <coopserver> *** cha0tics has left the game (general timeout) 12:39:14 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 12:44:57 *** happpy has quit IRC 13:28:07 *** Jam36 has joined #openttdcoop 13:28:57 *** Jam36 has left #openttdcoop 13:29:16 *** Jam36_ has joined #openttdcoop 13:29:54 <Jam36_> @logs 13:29:54 <Webster> #openttdcoop IRC webstuff - IRC Log Viewer - http://webster.openttdcoop.org/ 13:53:32 <V453000> sup Jam666 14:19:00 <Jam36_> bored at work :) 14:19:39 *** Hiddenfunstuff has joined #openttdcoop 14:20:27 <V453000> laym 14:21:06 <Mark> boooooored 14:48:18 *** liq3 has joined #openttdcoop 15:49:13 *** Jam36_ has quit IRC 15:50:53 *** happpymoblic has joined #openttdcoop 16:00:32 *** TrangarLaptop has joined #openttdcoop 16:00:41 *** TrangarLaptop has quit IRC 16:02:12 *** happpy has joined #openttdcoop 16:03:52 <happpy> !players 16:03:52 <coopserver> happpy: The server is empty, noone is connected. Feel free to remedy this situation 16:22:40 <happpy> !date 16:22:40 <coopserver> Jun 12 2847 16:29:42 *** happpymoblic has quit IRC 16:30:17 *** happpymoblic has joined #openttdcoop 16:57:37 <Jam35> !pw 16:57:37 <coopserver> Jam35: detect 16:57:41 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 16:57:45 <coopserver> *** Jam35 has joined 16:57:46 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:15:44 <coopserver> *** Jam35 has left the game (Leaving) 18:19:13 *** happpymoblic_ has joined #openttdcoop 18:24:59 *** happpymoblic has quit IRC 18:56:42 <raeon> @cl_calc mono 321 18:56:42 <Webster> raeon: Required CL for monorail at 321km/h is 5 (9 half tiles) or TL 18:57:54 *** happpymoblic_ is now known as happpymoblic 19:01:57 <cha0tics> !pw 19:01:57 <coopserver> cha0tics: manner 19:02:06 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 19:02:08 <coopserver> *** cha0tics has joined 19:02:09 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:03:43 <coopserver> *** cha0tics has joined company #1 19:03:44 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 19:07:17 *** Klanticus has quit IRC 19:09:59 <coopserver> *** cha0tics has left the game (general timeout) 19:10:00 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 19:10:56 <cha0tics> !pw 19:10:56 <coopserver> cha0tics: shifts 19:11:02 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 19:11:08 <coopserver> *** cha0tics has joined 19:11:09 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:11:10 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 19:13:48 <coopserver> *** cha0tics has left the game (general timeout) 19:13:48 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 19:15:33 <raeon> http://i.imgur.com/fNHJadJ.png http://i.imgur.com/zIocoeY.png 19:16:19 <happpy> nice 19:16:40 <raeon> 38 trains so far, tonsa moneyy \o/ 19:16:52 <happpy> yep 19:17:17 <raeon> also really awkwardly built sideline hubs http://i.imgur.com/hd5bvot.png 19:17:38 <happpy> yep 19:17:53 <raeon> but frankly I´m okay with that :p 19:18:50 <raeon> as you saw in the little map view in the first image, I have only covered a small part of the map 19:18:59 <happpy> yep 19:19:39 <V453000> big hint: making L and R far from each other makes it much easier to both build and expand ;) 19:19:58 <raeon> I have to admit that I dont have much space on this map :p 19:36:16 *** dwarf has joined #openttdcoop 19:36:22 <dwarf> !pw 19:36:22 <coopserver> dwarf: easier 19:36:49 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 19:36:55 <coopserver> *** dwarf has joined 19:36:56 <happpy> hi dwarf 19:36:57 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:36:58 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 19:37:13 *** dwarf has left #openttdcoop 19:37:22 *** dwarf has joined #openttdcoop 19:37:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o dwarf 19:38:33 <dwarf> !rcon set max_trains 1400 20:04:37 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 20:11:03 *** happpymoblic_ has joined #openttdcoop 20:14:00 <Sylf> Raeon, did you take the server down last night? 20:14:18 <raeon> uhm 20:14:19 <raeon> yes 20:14:25 <dwarf> is raeon's game online? 20:14:26 <raeon> if you are referring to mine 20:14:29 <Sylf> I couldn't find the server by the time I got home yesterday 20:14:31 <raeon> Itś not no :p 20:14:38 <raeon> I wasnt hosting it dedi 20:14:57 <Sylf> Ohok 20:16:49 *** happpymoblic has quit IRC 20:19:58 *** happpymoblic_ is now known as happpymoblic 20:24:30 *** dr_gonzo has joined #openttdcoop 20:25:04 *** dr_gonzo is now known as Guest9127 20:37:11 *** Guest9127 has quit IRC 20:39:50 *** dr_gonzo_ has joined #openttdcoop 20:53:16 <cha0tics> !pw 20:53:16 <coopserver> cha0tics: jnepos 20:53:21 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 20:53:27 <coopserver> *** cha0tics has joined 20:53:28 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 20:53:30 <coopserver> <cha0tics> hi 20:53:40 <coopserver> <dwarf> hi chaotics 20:53:52 <coopserver> <dwarf> now BSM is the biggest city :D 20:53:54 <coopserver> <cha0tics> what's going on? 20:54:24 <coopserver> <cha0tics> oh, you flattened the lake 20:54:54 <coopserver> <dwarf> but there are still nice canals with hovercats 20:54:58 <coopserver> <cha0tics> did the same at brasilia, but not that muhc 20:57:50 *** lol has joined #openttdcoop 20:57:51 <lol> !pw 20:57:51 <coopserver> lol: merges 20:58:00 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 20:58:04 <coopserver> *** lol has joined 20:58:05 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 20:58:08 <coopserver> <dwarf> hi lol 20:58:12 <coopserver> <lol> hi dwarf 20:58:13 <coopserver> <cha0tics> hi lol 20:58:24 <coopserver> *** lol has joined company #1 20:58:29 <coopserver> <cha0tics> you should check your sbahn at Zurich 20:58:40 <coopserver> <cha0tics> some of them behave a bit weird 20:59:16 <coopserver> <dwarf> did you hear that terrorists wanted to blow up the football game in Hannover? 20:59:34 <coopserver> <lol> only that they found an ambulance with bombs 20:59:43 <coopserver> <dwarf> well, yes 20:59:44 <coopserver> <lol> luckily the dutch team didn't play 20:59:45 <coopserver> *** cha0tics has left the game (general timeout) 21:00:25 <dwarf> !rcon set max_trains 1500 21:01:03 <coopserver> <dwarf> check out my merger in bb11 21:01:05 <cha0tics> getting too much for my craptop 21:01:19 <coopserver> <lol> looks cool 21:01:20 <coopserver> <dwarf> shifter to every line, then waiting bays 21:02:16 <cha0tics> !pw 21:02:16 <coopserver> cha0tics: merges 21:02:20 <coopserver> *** Game paused (connecting clients) 21:02:22 <coopserver> *** cha0tics has joined 21:02:25 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (connecting clients) 21:03:09 <coopserver> <lol> it just failed 21:03:31 <coopserver> <dwarf> yea, I'm not sure why that happens 21:03:44 <happpy> yer dwarf that terrorists wanted toblow up the football game in Hannover was in the news in uk 21:04:19 <coopserver> <lol> france is throwing bombs all over the place in syria 21:04:22 <coopserver> <dwarf> well, I just heard it 21:04:31 <happpy> yer 21:05:02 <coopserver> *** cha0tics has left the game (general timeout) 21:05:30 <happpy> hi lol 21:05:33 <happpy> how ar u 21:05:40 <cha0tics> bbl, still some stuff to do. will join from the desktop then 21:05:44 <cha0tics> bfn 21:05:46 <coopserver> <dwarf> no, I thint I know what the problem is 21:06:06 <cha0tics> mean me? 21:06:35 <coopserver> <dwarf> if one of the 3 is green, but turns red before the train chooses direction, it just goes on straight 21:07:04 <coopserver> <dwarf> and if the original green wasnt's the straight, it fails, as the failsafe will work on the original one 21:08:05 <coopserver> <dwarf> get what I'm saying? 21:08:16 <coopserver> <lol> not really 21:08:26 <coopserver> <lol> i think fail save have to be able to solve it 21:08:32 <coopserver> <lol> did you see the connection i moved? 21:08:40 <coopserver> <dwarf> for the original shifter there is the straight direction that's always green 21:08:46 <coopserver> <lol> that gives some more time for failsafe 21:09:23 <coopserver> <dwarf> so if the turning direction turns red before the train turns, it can always go straight 21:09:43 <coopserver> <dwarf> I don't think that will matter 21:10:38 <coopserver> <dwarf> the split towards the waiting bays should be at the same place as the split for the shifters 21:10:57 <coopserver> <lol> now i get what you are trying to say 21:12:14 <coopserver> <lol> i think a failsafe have to look like this 21:16:15 <coopserver> <lol> one of my splitters was broken 21:16:20 <coopserver> <lol> bbh 01 21:16:40 <coopserver> <lol> we have to check all of them now 21:16:58 *** StarLite has quit IRC 21:19:29 <coopserver> <lol> it only picks the right hand side now 21:19:35 <coopserver> <lol> so got to normal mergers 21:19:43 <coopserver> <lol> even if the is space in other shilf lines 21:19:48 <coopserver> <dwarf> it always preferred the right lane 21:19:56 <coopserver> <dwarf> oh, I see 21:20:41 <coopserver> <dwarf> we should set the PBS penalty higher 21:20:43 <coopserver> <lol> we need backward pbs in waitinbays isn't it? 21:21:12 <coopserver> <lol> you didn't turn it backwards 21:21:13 <coopserver> <dwarf> see, it doesn't matter 21:22:18 <coopserver> <dwarf> do you konw how to change the penalty? 21:22:26 <coopserver> <lol> rcon set 21:22:34 <coopserver> <lol> i have to search what is the name 21:22:54 <coopserver> <dwarf> right, that's what I don't know either 21:23:12 <lol> npf.npf_rail_pbs_signal_back_penalty 21:23:23 <lol> you can always search your own openttd.cfg 21:23:34 <lol> i don't have rcon 21:23:36 <dwarf> what is the default value? 21:23:55 <Sylf> That's npf 21:24:11 <Sylf> You need yapf setting 21:24:21 <lol> yapf.rail_pbs_signal_back_penalty 21:24:29 <lol> i have it at 1500 in my openttd.cfg 21:24:37 <dwarf> !rcon set yapf.rail_pbs_signal_back_penalty 10000 21:24:57 <Sylf> Super high 21:25:07 <coopserver> <dwarf> still no effect 21:26:00 <dwarf> !rcon set yapf.rail_pbs_signal_back_penalty 0 21:26:14 <coopserver> <lol> still no effect 21:26:17 <dwarf> !rcon set yapf.rail_pbs_signal_back_penalty 10000000 21:26:36 <coopserver> <lol> it is working now 21:26:39 <coopserver> <dwarf> now it works :D 21:26:48 <coopserver> <lol> i think i go 21:26:59 <coopserver> <lol> one question for you dwarf 21:27:03 <coopserver> <lol> what do you think of ecs? 21:27:23 <coopserver> <dwarf> ecs? 21:27:28 <coopserver> <lol> the newgrf 21:27:32 <coopserver> <lol> industryset 21:27:43 <coopserver> <dwarf> don't use it much, no oppinion really 21:27:54 <coopserver> <lol> and for publicserver? 21:28:48 <happpy> i have play ecs befor its not my thin 21:28:48 <coopserver> <dwarf> what kind of answer do you expect? most of my knowledge about ecs is that it exists, that's good I guess :D 21:29:15 <Mark> ecs is pretty horrible for coop games 21:29:16 <coopserver> <lol> i like that answer 21:29:57 <coopserver> <lol> i leave 21:29:58 <coopserver> <lol> bye 21:30:03 <happpy> bb 21:30:17 <coopserver> *** lol has left the game (Leaving) 21:30:21 *** lol has quit IRC 21:30:54 <coopserver> <dwarf> some of my merges may break now with this super high penalty, changing exit signals to 2-way should help 21:33:49 <happpy> yer mite help dwarf 21:45:01 <coopserver> *** dwarf has left the game (Leaving) 21:45:02 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players) 22:41:18 *** Mazur has quit IRC 22:43:16 *** dr_gonzo_ has quit IRC 22:50:23 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop 22:50:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mazur 22:58:05 *** cha0tics has quit IRC 23:00:43 *** Hiddenfunstuff has quit IRC 23:15:44 <dwarf> !pw 23:15:44 <coopserver> dwarf: fnound 23:16:16 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (connecting clients, number of players) 23:16:34 <coopserver> *** dwarf has joined 23:16:35 <coopserver> *** Game still paused (number of players) 23:16:36 <coopserver> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 23:27:33 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:39:48 <coopserver> *** dwarf has left the game (general timeout) 23:39:49 <coopserver> *** Game paused (number of players)