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Log for #openttdcoop.dev on 16th September 2009:
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12:59:24  <Ammler> !save
12:59:24  <Tycoon> Saving game...
12:59:27  <Tycoon> Game saved
12:59:33  <Ammler> !rcon quit
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14:30:48  <Mks>  ammler server is down?
14:41:03  <Ammler> oh yes...
14:41:19  <Ammler> had to reboot the server
14:41:39  <Mks> ohh
14:41:47  <Mks> will it be back up sometime?
14:41:58  <Ammler> well, if you want, now.
14:43:05  <Mks> well if you feel like enable it again it wouldn't hurt
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14:51:57  <Ammler> !info
14:51:57  <Tycoon> Ammler: #:1(Mauve) Company Name: 'Space Truckin''  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 40548577  Loan: 500000  Value: 40238983  (T:0, R:433, P:0, S:0) unprotected
14:51:57  <Tycoon> Ammler: #:2(Red) Company Name: 'Jons Pax co'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 488602  Loan: 0  Value: 593631  (T:3, R:58, P:6, S:2) unprotected
14:51:57  <Tycoon> Ammler: #:3(Green) Company Name: 'Mks Transport'  Year Founded: 1953  Money: 17693347  Loan: 0  Value: 19896816  (T:57, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected
14:52:03  <Ammler> Mks: here you have :-P
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15:32:01  <Tycoon> <Mark> 'lo
15:34:31  <Audigex> hai
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16:20:27  <Tycoon> *** Game paused (not enough players)
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17:33:35  <Tycoon> <Mks> Ammler
17:33:41  <Tycoon> <Mks> mm game is still paused
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17:34:01  <Tycoon> *** Game paused (not enough players)
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17:34:07  <Tycoon> *** Game unpaused (enough players)
17:34:07  <Tycoon> *** Game unpaused (enough players)
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17:42:41  <Ammler> Mks: then unpause it
17:42:44  <Mks> how
17:42:48  <Mks> I've tried
17:42:50  <Mks> some command
17:42:52  <Mks> s
17:42:54  <Ammler> !auto
17:43:08  <Ammler> !rcon set min_clients
17:43:08  <Tycoon> Ammler: 'min_clients' is an unknown setting.
17:43:20  <Mks> server say it unpause
17:43:22  <Mks> but it doesn
17:43:23  <Mks> 't
17:43:40  <Ammler> it might be is2 is before the pause fix
17:43:50  <Ammler> !unpause
17:44:42  <Mks> server doesn't listen huh
17:45:32  <Ammler> you have rcon too
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17:45:37  <Ammler> so just try self
17:45:44  <Mks> I've tried rcon unpause
17:45:45  <Mks> but
17:45:50  <Mks> sas manual unpause disabled
17:46:12  <Mks> !rcon unpause
17:46:12  <Tycoon> Mks: Manual unpausing is disabled. Set network.min_active_clients to 0 (disable autopausing) to enable manual unpausing.
17:46:24  <Ammler> and?
17:46:34  <Ammler> now you have the answer :-P
17:46:43  <Ammler> !rcon set min_active_clients
17:46:43  <Tycoon> Ammler: Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 255)
17:46:49  <Ammler> !players
17:46:52  <Tycoon> Ammler: Client 9 (Green) is Mks, in company 3 (Mks Transport)
17:47:05  <Mks> well it should be unpaused right?
17:47:15  <Ammler> yes, isn't?
17:47:17  <Ammler> !date
17:47:17  <Tycoon> Ammler: 27 Oct 1981
17:47:18  <Mks> no
17:47:21  <Mks> its paused
17:47:24  <Ammler> !date
17:47:24  <Tycoon> Ammler: 27 Oct 1981
17:47:29  <Ammler> hmm, indeed :-)
17:47:59  <Mks> !rcon auto
17:47:59  <Tycoon> Mks: ERROR: command or variable not found
17:48:18  <Mks> !rcon set network.min_active clients 0
17:48:19  <Tycoon> Mks: - Change setting for all clients. Usage: 'setting <name> [<value>]'
17:48:19  <Tycoon> Mks: - Omitting <value> will print out the current value of the setting.
17:48:32  <Ammler> maybe there is a setting like pause on start
17:49:06  <Mks> it has been running since you restarted server
17:49:15  <Mks> cause I jam
17:49:21  <Mks> didn't have before
17:49:31  <Mks> and someone ┤made a new company
17:49:53  <Ammler> !rcon set pause_on_join
17:49:53  <Tycoon> Ammler: Current value for 'pause_on_join' is: 'on' (min: 0, max: 1)
17:49:56  <Ammler> !rcon set pause_on_join 0
17:50:03  <Ammler> (useless anyway)
17:50:31  <Ammler> !rcon set pause_on_newgame
17:50:31  <Tycoon> Ammler: Current value for 'pause_on_newgame' is: 'off' (min: 0, max: 1)
17:50:52  <Ammler> is there another pause?
17:50:59  <Mks> no idea
17:51:00  <Ammler> !rcon set min_active_clients
17:51:00  <Tycoon> Ammler: Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 255)
17:51:03  <Ammler> !rcon set min_active_clients 0
17:51:06  <Ammler> !rcon unpause
17:51:06  <Tycoon> Ammler: Game unpaused.
17:51:08  <Mks> the pause buttom ingame is pressed
17:51:11  <Ammler> !date
17:51:11  <Tycoon> Ammler: 27 Oct 1981
17:51:14  <Ammler> !date
17:51:14  <Tycoon> Ammler: 27 Oct 1981
17:51:19  <Ammler> still paused?
17:51:22  <Mks> yeah
17:51:27  <Ammler> SILLY!
17:51:38  <Ammler> !rcon pause
17:51:38  <Tycoon> Ammler: Game is already paused.
17:51:43  <Ammler> !rcon unpause
17:51:43  <Tycoon> Ammler: Game unpaused.
17:51:48  <Ammler> !rcon pause
17:51:48  <Tycoon> Ammler: Game is already paused.
17:51:55  <Ammler> lol
17:51:59  <Mks> hehe
17:52:25  <Mks> something happend to the autopilot?
17:52:52  <Tycoon> Server closed down by admin
17:52:54  <Tycoon> *** Mks has left the game (connection lost)
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17:53:33  <Ammler> !rcon set min_active_clients 0
17:53:36  <Ammler> !rcon unpause
17:53:36  <Tycoon> Ammler: Game unpaused.
17:53:40  <Ammler> !rcon pause
17:53:40  <Tycoon> Ammler: Game paused.
17:53:43  <Ammler> ok
17:53:45  <Tycoon> *** Mks joined the game
17:53:47  <Ammler> works
17:53:57  <Mks> its paused :P
17:53:59  <Mks> !auto
17:54:02  <Mks> !unpause
17:54:08  <Ammler> !rcon set min_active_clients 1
17:54:08  <Tycoon> *** Game unpaused (enough players)
17:54:13  <Tycoon> <Mks> ahh now
17:54:29  <Ammler> don't manually unpause
17:54:36  <Mks> that new company is gone
17:55:00  <Tycoon> <Mks> wonder what happend say its working and its now
17:55:22  <Ammler> hmm, let us restart again
17:55:30  <Ammler> and then you found a company
17:55:32  <Tycoon> <Mks> well working now
17:55:36  <Tycoon> Server closed down by admin
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17:56:00  <Ammler> !info
17:56:00  <Tycoon> Ammler: #:1(Mauve) Company Name: 'Space Truckin''  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 40548577  Loan: 500000  Value: 40238983  (T:0, R:433, P:0, S:0) unprotected
17:56:00  <Tycoon> Ammler: #:2(Red) Company Name: 'Jons Pax co'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 488602  Loan: 0  Value: 593631  (T:3, R:58, P:6, S:2) unprotected
17:56:00  <Tycoon> Ammler: #:3(Green) Company Name: 'Mks Transport'  Year Founded: 1953  Money: 17693347  Loan: 0  Value: 19896816  (T:57, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected
17:56:36  <Tycoon> *** Game unpaused (enough players)
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17:56:46  <Ammler> hmm
17:57:01  <Mks> ?
17:57:05  <Mks> whats wrong?
17:57:24  <Ammler> nothing, I liked to reproduce the bug
17:57:27  <Ammler> but nvm.
17:57:31  <Ammler> have fun :-P
17:57:33  <Tycoon> <Mks> ahh right
17:57:35  <Tycoon> <Mks> I'll mm
17:57:45  <Tycoon> <Mks> say if it happens again
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18:46:22  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> good morning USA
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18:46:41  <Mks> hehe
18:46:49  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> nice network
18:47:07  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> apart from your Mks style tunnels
18:47:46  <Tycoon> <Mks> whats wrong with the tunnels?
18:48:00  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> they are not needed
18:48:10  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> you have an ML arround that mountain
18:48:17  <Tycoon> <Mks> well I didn't when I built the tunnel
18:48:43  <Tycoon> <Mks> also built it due to in begining trains slowed down like crazy on the hills
18:48:50  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> also you only need 3 or 4 tunnels per line
18:48:56  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> even at that length
18:49:06  <Tycoon> <Mks> well
18:49:06  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> i know what the !tunnels saya
18:49:26  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> but your line will jam at junctions befor 3 tunnels would jam
18:49:32  <Tycoon> <Mks> 5 is needed
18:49:38  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> it isnt
18:49:56  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> if youi had 2 ML lines with good priors then you would need 5 each
18:50:10  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> but 1 ML with no priors you ML will jam befor the tunnels
18:50:17  <Tycoon> <Mks> perhaps
18:50:27  <Tycoon> <Mks> tho 4 is kinda of needed tho
18:50:37  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> i would say 3 or 4
18:50:50  <Tycoon> <Mks> been thinking about removing the south going tunnel
18:50:52  <Tycoon> <Mks> tho not sure
18:51:10  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> wpuld look odd now
18:51:16  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> you would need to TF to much to fix it
18:52:00  <Tycoon> <Mks> I kinda of like tunnels its just tobad you can't just have 1 in each direction
18:52:18  <Tycoon> <Mks> looks neater when trains go through tunnels
18:52:22  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> you can with the badly coded tunnels patch
18:52:37  <Tycoon> <Mks> ohh it allow for singlas in tunnel?
18:52:40  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> the only issue then is tunneling from 1 side of the map to the other
18:52:50  <Tycoon> <Mks> hehe
18:52:56  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> i places a signal in every tile inside the tunnel
18:53:10  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> so train can run as close as you want then
18:53:12  <Tycoon> <Mks> ahh
18:53:12  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> +tham
18:53:16  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> +them
18:53:19  <Tycoon> <Mks> whats wrong with the patch then?
18:53:21  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> u cant spell tonight
18:53:40  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> it doesnt show signals
18:53:47  <Tycoon> <Mks> ahh
18:53:49  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> its not the tunnels
18:53:55  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> as much as the bridges
18:53:57  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> it works on both
18:54:00  <Tycoon> <Mks> ahh
18:54:05  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> same patch
18:54:17  <Tycoon> <Mks> well I hope they fix tunnels and bridges sometime so it can have signals
18:54:23  <Tycoon> <Mks> like in standard openttd
18:54:25  <Tycoon> <Mks> without patching
18:54:47  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> you onle need 2 tunnels at entrance
18:55:17  <Tycoon> <Mks> I know but I can't tf further in for a split
18:55:19  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> (north bound)
18:55:21  <Tycoon> <Mks> some stuff in the way
18:56:15  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> nice to see someone on this server has used trains and nor TRV's or planes
18:56:21  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> i hate planes
18:56:24  <Tycoon> <Mks> hehe
18:56:28  <Tycoon> <Mks> I usually use trains
18:56:55  <planetmaker> what's a TRV?
18:57:04  <Chris_Booth> TRV?
18:57:19  <planetmaker> [20:56]	<Tycoon>	<Chris Booth> nice to see someone on this server has used trains and nor TRV's or planes
18:57:20  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> what is called a TRV?
18:57:30  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> i meant not RV's
18:57:32  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> lol
18:57:35  <planetmaker> :-)
18:57:39  <Tycoon> <Mks> IS isn't enabled this tiem btw chris
18:57:46  <Tycoon> <Mks> time
18:57:51  <Tycoon> <Mks> dunno why
18:57:58  <Tycoon> <Mks> guess you can rcon it
18:57:59  <planetmaker> you should enable it then :-)
18:58:02  <Tycoon> <Mks> not sure what to type tho
18:58:03  <planetmaker> yes, one can.
18:58:22  <planetmaker> you need to know the exact setting names
18:58:29  <Mks> aye the problem :P
18:58:32  <Tycoon> <Chris Booth> i will enable it in sp
18:58:34  <planetmaker>  !rcon set <settingname> <value>
18:58:34  <Tycoon> planetmaker: '<settingname>' is an unknown setting.
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18:58:41  <planetmaker>   !rcon set <settingname> <value>
18:58:41  <Tycoon> planetmaker: '<settingname>' is an unknown setting.
18:58:49  <planetmaker>   . !rcon set <settingname> <value>
18:58:54  <Chris_Booth> stop building now
18:59:00  <planetmaker> Mks: your openttd.cfg might tell you.
18:59:01  <Chris_Booth> and i will enable it
18:59:12  <planetmaker> or the readme ;-) or wiki
18:59:17  <planetmaker> but not sure
18:59:44  <Chris_Booth> i cant be bothered to read that
18:59:55  <Chris_Booth> i have access to the uploader much quicker
19:00:18  <Mks> sharing_mode = 0
19:00:21  <Mks> should be that
19:00:33  <Mks> !rcon sharing_mode 1
19:00:33  <Tycoon> Mks: ERROR: command or variable not found
19:00:36  <Mks> heh
19:00:40  <Ammler> set
19:00:48  <Mks> !rcon set sharing_mode 1
19:01:08  <Mks> mm
19:01:18  <Chris_Booth> worked?
19:01:25  <Chris_Booth> i have uploaded a save if not
19:01:42  <Tycoon> <Mks> ahh its on now
19:01:48  <Tycoon> <Mks> global setting tho
19:01:48  <Tycoon> <Mks> mm
19:01:52  <Mks> !rcon set sharing_mode 2
19:01:55  <Chris_Booth> !rcon ls
19:01:55  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: 0) .. (Parent directory)
19:01:55  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: 1) archive/ (Directory)
19:01:55  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: 2) autosave/ (Directory)
19:01:55  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: 3) uploads/ (Directory)
19:01:55  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: 4) game.sav
19:01:55  <Mks> so
19:01:56  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: you have 9 more messages
19:01:59  <Chris_Booth> !more
19:01:59  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: 5) Final_FIRS+TAI_#2.sav.sav
19:01:59  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: 6) Firs_IS2_Final.sav
19:01:59  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: 7) firs1_final.sav
19:02:00  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: 8) firs2.sav
19:02:00  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: 9) firs.sav
19:02:00  <planetmaker> Chris_Booth: if you can fix something via rcon, a reload is ... somewhat overdoing things quite a bit.
19:02:00  <Mks> 2 works fine
19:02:02  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: you have 4 more messages
19:02:05  <Chris_Booth> !more
19:02:05  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: 10) cargodist1.sav
19:02:05  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: 11) IS6_Final.sav
19:02:05  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: 12) IS6_copy_tneo.sav
19:02:06  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: 13) is6_incaseboothmessesuptheload.sav
19:02:28  <Mks> !rcon set rail_sharing 1
19:02:29  <Chris_Booth> !rcon cd 3
19:02:37  <Chris_Booth> !rcon ls
19:02:37  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: 0) .. (Parent directory)
19:02:37  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: 1) IS_enabled.sav
19:02:37  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: 2) PSG_#159_start.sav
19:02:37  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: 3) firs_is.sav
19:02:37  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: 4) devstart_firs4.sav
19:02:38  <Tycoon> Chris_Booth: you have 6 more messages
19:02:44  <planetmaker> !players
19:02:46  <Chris_Booth> '!rcon load 1'
19:02:46  <Tycoon> planetmaker: Client 3 (Green) is Mks, in company 3 (Mks Transport)
19:02:46  <planetmaker> !clients
19:02:59  <Chris_Booth> you can type the now Mks to get it working if not
19:03:20  <Mks> its working
19:03:25  <Chris_Booth> ok
19:03:34  <Mks> tho noone else built any rail but me :P
19:03:40  <Chris_Booth> ooh we have idlers on PS
19:03:46  <Chris_Booth> we should cick them
19:04:43  <Mks> you don't like the current dev map chris?
19:05:54  <Chris_Booth> i cant play
19:06:00  <Chris_Booth> i dont have enough time
19:06:03  <Mks> ahhh
19:06:04  <Chris_Booth> i would love to play
19:06:06  <Chris_Booth> :'(
19:06:11  <Chris_Booth> first week back at uni
19:06:17  <Mks> I see
19:06:38  <Tycoon> *** Mks has joined spectators
19:06:38  <Tycoon> *** Game paused (not enough players)
19:07:18  <Chris_Booth> you can play twice as hard for me
19:16:07  <Mks> hehe
19:16:19  <Mks> I think its most fun when map is new acually
19:16:28  <Mks> when its begining to get to crowded not so fun
19:17:03  <Chris_Booth> if you want a new map just higlight me
19:17:15  <Chris_Booth> only take 1 min to put a map on
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19:17:27  <Chris_Booth> you can find me email on my coop user page
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19:18:07  <Mks> alright
19:18:12  <Mks> not sure if mark want a new map tho
19:24:01  <Chris_Booth> i didnt mean now Mks i mean when you are bored and no one is playing
19:24:08  <Mks> hehe k
19:24:43  <Mks> I would like a little less hilly map or perhaps a smoother map, and less water and less industries :P so damn many on this current one
19:24:59  <Chris_Booth> well make it send it to me
19:25:04  <Chris_Booth> and i will put up on monday
19:25:54  <Mks> a well no rush I guess
19:59:48  <Tycoon> *** {[HUN]Peter1986} joined the game
19:59:56  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> hi
20:11:08  <Tycoon> <Mks> hi
20:11:11  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> hi
20:11:49  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> are you the green?
20:11:53  <Tycoon> <Mks> yes
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20:12:47  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> why don't you join the company?
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20:14:42  <Tycoon> <Mks> ahh not building atm
20:14:49  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> ok
20:14:55  <Tycoon> <Mks> but I can join if yuo wana see the trains move3
20:15:13  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i know how IS works
20:15:19  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> and multiplayer too
20:16:39  <Tycoon> <Mks> k
20:17:01  <Tycoon> <Mks> your not gona make a company?
20:17:23  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i'm still a visitor
20:17:30  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> where can i get bauxite?
20:17:37  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> or gravel?
20:19:47  <Tycoon> <Mks> there is no bauxite mines yet in first
20:19:49  <Tycoon> <Mks> firs
20:19:53  <Tycoon> <Mks> still an alpha
20:19:59  <Tycoon> <Mks> no gravel either
20:21:31  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> shit...
20:21:41  <Tycoon> <Mks> why?
20:21:48  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> because it is missing
20:21:54  <Tycoon> <Mks> well
20:21:56  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> and also, i miss some train newGRF
20:21:58  <Tycoon> <Mks> still is alot diffrent ones
20:22:12  <Tycoon> <Mks> well this is really a test server
20:22:19  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> ok
20:22:25  <Tycoon> <Mks> maybe other trains next time
20:22:28  <Tycoon> <Mks> its diffrent each time
20:22:34  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> how can one turn on the density stuff for TAI?
20:22:37  <Ammler> you couldn't join, if you would miss a grf
20:22:46  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> no, i have all
20:22:58  <Mks> think he meant he want newgrf for trains
20:23:02  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> but i mean, the server doesn't have train newGRFs
20:23:08  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> sure
20:23:15  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> but i'm Hungarian
20:23:58  <Ammler> yes, that is soemthing we see quite well :-P
20:24:18  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> anyway, my English isn't the best
20:24:28  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i had a Chinese girlfriend yet
20:25:31  <Tycoon> *** {[HUN]Peter1986} has started a new company (#4)
20:25:33  <Tycoon> *** Game unpaused (enough players)
20:25:52  <Mks> I am not native english speaking either
20:27:12  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> what carry wool?
20:29:02  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> yeah
20:29:08  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> Russian planes are cool :)
20:29:42  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> but you should use other trainsets too next time
20:29:48  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> to have shunters
20:29:50  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> etc
20:30:02  <Tycoon> *** Mks has joined company #3
20:30:22  <Tycoon> <Mks> you can put wool in a goods van
20:30:47  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i figured out already, thx
20:39:00  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> hey you guys
20:39:03  <Tycoon> <Mks> heh a bit short ?
20:39:09  <Tycoon> <Mks> yes?
20:39:20  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> what about the traffic lights on roads?
20:39:26  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> and what about trails?
20:39:33  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i saw them on tt-forums
20:39:40  <Tycoon> <Mks> there are no traffic lights
20:39:46  <Tycoon> <Mks> you can have one way roads tho
20:39:46  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> when will those be included in trunk?
20:39:52  <Tycoon> <Mks> no idea
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20:42:33  <Tycoon> <Mks> your only going to have 1 rv?
20:44:48  <Mark> evening
20:45:02  <Mark> oneway roads are in trunk for ages
20:45:02  <Mks> hello
20:45:08  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> nope but i am aware of loans
20:45:14  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i know
20:45:19  <Mks> ahh he wanted traffic lights tho
20:45:22  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i was asking the trails
20:45:29  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> and the traffic lights for roads
20:45:52  <Tycoon> *** Mark joined the game
20:46:39  <Tycoon> <Mark> [HUN]Peter1986: first time playing ottd?
20:46:42  <Mks> whats trails?
20:46:44  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> nope
20:46:50  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> dirt roads
20:46:56  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i read tt-forums often
20:46:59  <Tycoon> <Mark> they're in some roadsets
20:47:09  <Tycoon> <Mark> North American Roads has them i think
20:47:23  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> read the tt-forums
20:47:45  <Tycoon> <Mark> cant be bothered to read them
20:48:55  <Mks> ahh you mean like change roads over time? or diffrent in cities and so on?
20:49:04  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> nopoe
20:49:10  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> a 3rd road type
20:49:24  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> like how 2cc use monorail for metro
20:49:26  <Tycoon> <Mark> 3rd?
20:49:32  <Tycoon> <Mark> whats the second?
20:49:38  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> or Canada trainset use maglev as narrow gauge
20:49:45  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> road, tram, trails
20:49:51  <Tycoon> <Mark> right
20:49:54  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> it is [WIP]
20:52:01  <Mks> ohh so like only special rvs can use trails then?
20:52:15  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> not only
20:52:41  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> but i dislike this stuff, that the server haven't got newGRF
20:53:13  <Tycoon> <Mark> ?
20:54:03  <Ammler> which GRF are you missing?
20:54:18  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i mean, the server doesn't use train newGRFs
20:54:21  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> like NARS
20:54:25  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> or UKRS
20:54:31  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> etc
20:54:37  <Ammler> oh, you don't speak about our server?
20:54:43  <Tycoon> <Mark> he does :P
20:54:49  <Tycoon> <Mark> we got default trains atm
20:54:54  <Ammler> oh well
20:55:24  <Ammler> He joins once and complains about we don't use newgrfs?
20:55:29  <Tycoon> <Mark> yes :)
20:55:32  <Tycoon> <Mark> how cute is that?
20:55:38  <Ammler> indeed :-D
20:56:05  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> why don't you share your infrastructure
20:56:14  <Ammler> Peter, which other server does use more grfs then we?
20:58:30  <Tycoon> <Mark> goodnight
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21:00:48  <Mks> I've put on sharing on my railway now
21:00:51  <Mks> not stations tho
21:00:57  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> thx
21:01:21  <Mks> !rcon set new_individual_delay 1
21:01:57  <Ammler> ?
21:02:10  <Ammler> 1 month delay?
21:02:20  <Mks> !rcon set new_individual_delay 0
21:02:33  <Ammler> 1 month is the minimum
21:02:41  <Mks> ohh
21:02:44  <Mks> it sas 0 month now
21:02:47  <Ammler> ok
21:02:52  <Ammler> then it isn't
21:02:56  <Ammler> hmm
21:03:35  <Tycoon> <Mks> you know peter if you acually wana connect your line to mine I have to build a junction for you
21:03:43  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> thanks
21:03:53  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i'm still at a low level
21:03:55  <Tycoon> <Mks> where do you want it?
21:04:33  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i don't know yet
21:04:44  <Tycoon> <Mks> put a sign then if you want one
21:04:54  <Tycoon> <Mks> like !junction here   or something
21:05:21  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> ok i will
21:07:02  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> well
21:07:08  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> can i carry scrap metal?
21:07:14  <Tycoon> <Mks> yes
21:07:20  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> on your lines
21:07:30  <Tycoon> <Mks> well sure just use tim loco
21:07:37  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> ok
21:07:40  <Tycoon> <Mks> I am replacing all mine to tim
21:07:42  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i will
21:08:42  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> check signs
21:09:01  <Ammler> use opengfx and default trains are nice :-P
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21:22:52  <Tycoon> <Mks> I can coonect to other line also if you need tho its better not to join when its so short distance
21:25:56  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> well, i hope it will produce more scrap metal tho
21:28:03  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> almost - 600
21:28:21  <Tycoon> <Mks> I can give you some money if you want
21:28:43  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> no thanks
21:28:50  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> the train's income is minus
21:28:56  <Tycoon> <Mks> ahh
21:29:04  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> but it didn't take a meter on rails yet...
21:29:15  <Tycoon> <Mks> I see
21:29:45  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i made 95% rating :)
21:29:59  <Tycoon> <Mks> :)
21:30:41  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> wooow :)
21:31:01  <Tycoon> <Mks> heh
21:31:09  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> earning  000 is cool per one turn :)
21:31:19  <Tycoon> <Mks> :)
21:32:25  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> this will be a good line in my opinion :)
21:32:35  <Tycoon> <Mks> the scrap one?
21:32:39  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> yes
21:36:30  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> btw thx for helping me out
21:36:36  <Tycoon> <Mks> np
21:38:42  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> are the vehicles articulated?
21:38:57  <Tycoon> <Mks> huh what does that mean?
21:39:12  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> they behave like they have trailer
21:39:26  <Tycoon> <Mks> you mean rvs?
21:39:32  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> yes
21:39:38  <Tycoon> <Mks> I think some are
21:39:56  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> good
21:42:32  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i have tram :)
21:42:38  <Tycoon> <Mks> :)
21:42:52  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> do you know hungary?
21:44:41  <Mks> the country you mean?
21:44:49  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> sure
21:45:05  <Mks> I don't really know that much about it
21:46:10  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> do you know Ikarus bus?
21:46:25  <Mks> no
21:46:38  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> it was made in Hungary
21:46:44  <Mks> ahh
21:46:48  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> in socialist era, it was world famous
21:47:07  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> they made alot of technical developement
21:47:09  <Tycoon> <Mks> ahhh
21:47:21  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> but they sold them for other countries
21:48:01  <Tycoon> <Mks> ahh don't think they been sold in sweden really
21:48:03  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> the buses theirselves were reliable
21:48:05  <Tycoon> <Mks> at least not to much of them
21:48:11  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> Sweden?
21:48:19  <Tycoon> <Mks> yeah I am swedish
21:48:33  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> if you see old Volvo or Scania buses from 1970s, they can easily have Ikarus bodywork
21:48:44  <Tycoon> <Mks> ahh
21:48:50  <Tycoon> <Mks> not many of those left tho
21:48:52  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> because Sweden switches driving side in 1967
21:49:02  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> and what about new buses?
21:49:28  <Tycoon> <Mks> new ones are quite many volov and scania
21:49:34  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> Ikarus 300 series often has Scania or Volvo chassis alongside with Hungarian Csepel and Rába
21:49:44  <Tycoon> <Mks> ahhh
21:50:03  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> you can browse the internet for those buses :)
21:50:14  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> btw my sister is in Sweden
21:50:24  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> on a job training
21:50:32  <Tycoon> <Mks> ohh
21:50:35  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> what is needed to have college diploma
21:50:42  <Tycoon> <Mks> ahh
21:51:05  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> do you have trams in Sweden?
21:51:11  <Tycoon> <Mks> well
21:51:14  <Tycoon> <Mks> a few
21:51:20  <Tycoon> <Mks> only in two cities tho
21:51:20  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> like in Stockholm
21:51:22  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> ?
21:51:28  <Tycoon> <Mks> well not really
21:51:34  <Tycoon> <Mks> only some old tram
21:51:41  <Tycoon> <Mks> gothenburg got trams tho
21:51:47  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> like 'Mustang' tram?
21:52:09  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> which are copies of American old PCC trams, right?
21:52:17  <Tycoon> <Mks> not sure wich one they use
21:52:43  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> here, trams are old Hungarian made, or Tatra Czechslovakian ones
21:52:56  <Mks> norrk÷ping got trams also
21:53:00  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> Ikarus made buses for the socialist world back then
21:53:12  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> and Tatra made trams for the socialist world
21:54:08  <Mks> gothenburg uses M32 trams
21:54:11  <Mks> well the new ones that is
21:55:23  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> anyway, Hungary have trams in Budapest, and 3 other big cities
21:55:37  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> and 2 of the others have trolley too
21:55:49  <Mks> ahh
21:55:51  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> sadly my town haven't got trams nor trolleys
21:56:01  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> here anything is rural except Budapest
21:56:04  <Mks> trolley whats that?
21:56:10  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> Budapest has 1,8 million ppl
21:56:20  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> with agglomeration, about 2,2 mill.
21:56:42  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> other 'major' cities are between 100 000-200 000
21:56:48  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> trolley bus
21:57:13  <Mks> ahh like busses that use electric to drive?
21:57:33  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> it is a regular bus, powered by electric engine, and it is powered by overhead wires
21:57:36  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> like trams :)
21:57:38  <Mks> ahh
21:57:43  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> yes
21:57:53  <Mks> think there are some such ones in sweden not sure tho
21:58:14  <Mks> prolly more like museum ones
21:58:16  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> the former socialist world had lots of trams and trolleys
21:58:23  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> they didn't care bout profit
21:58:49  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> so they hadn't destroy all their electric-powered public transport
21:58:55  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> like USA and the west
21:59:05  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> but after the oil crysys
21:59:17  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> trolleys and trams became a good solution :)
21:59:48  <Mks> there are 200km tram rail in gothenburg
22:00:04  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> that is much :)
22:00:22  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i don't know how much is in Budapest, but there are many tram lines
22:00:44  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i think there are 40-50 different lines, but of course some share lines partially
22:00:49  <Mks> well budapest is larger then gothenburg
22:00:55  <Mks> only like 500k pop in gothenburg
22:00:55  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> really?
22:01:14  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> Sweden has about 10 million ppl right?
22:01:21  <Mks> yeah about
22:01:23  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> like us Hungarians...
22:01:33  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> but we have smaller terrian
22:01:40  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> and warmer climate, of course :)
22:02:06  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> there are many Swedish studying in Hungarian medical schools, to become doctor
22:02:55  <Mks> ahh
22:03:41  <Mks> you need like top grades in everything in sweden to join the doctor school
22:05:42  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> wow
22:05:57  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i even learned cheers is sk├ąl in Swedish
22:06:05  <Mks> :)
22:06:07  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> but also in Norwegian, and Danish
22:06:38  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> here in Hungary everyone teach Hungarians how to say cheers in their language, and we teach them how to say cheers in Hungarian :)
22:06:48  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> we say Eg├ęszs├ęgedre :)
22:06:58  <Mks> huh long word
22:07:05  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> hehe
22:09:40  <Tycoon> <Mks> you know it cost a little for your train to use my railway right?
22:09:49  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i know
22:10:00  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> 0 per tile
22:10:48  <Tycoon> <Mks> well I think its more based on how long your train is
22:10:58  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> maybe
22:11:00  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> and its speed
22:12:06  <Tycoon> <Mks> I am using kr tho I think its like 1300 kr times train lenght
22:12:16  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> maybe
22:12:22  <Tycoon> <Mks> and you pay that for each train on line each month its using my line
22:12:40  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> it's hard to find close industries
22:13:03  <Tycoon> <Mks> I've got trains go from one end of the map to the other
22:13:17  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> yes but i like to use RVs too
22:13:23  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> especially HEQS
22:13:41  <Tycoon> <Mks> you can use RVs pretty long distances also
22:14:04  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i know
22:14:22  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> but a huge mining truck is more realistic on short distant
22:14:40  <Tycoon> <Mks> well
22:14:42  <Tycoon> <Mks> perhaps
22:15:08  <Tycoon> <Mks> it sometimes are pretty long roads for mining trucks to travel irl also
22:15:24  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> in Scandinavia, trucking is easier...
22:15:34  <Mks> why is that?
22:15:38  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> population isn't too crowded on cold north
22:15:55  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> here you hit a village each 10-20 km, or even less
22:16:01  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> you must cross it
22:16:11  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> highways aren't reaching anything here
22:16:31  <Mks> well its fairly populated in south tho
22:16:43  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i guess
22:16:52  <Mks> like one "town each 30-40km
22:17:00  <Mks> + smaller villages bettwen
22:17:24  <Mks> in the north its like 100-200km bettwen cities :P
22:17:56  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> hey, where can i take 'waste' ?
22:18:06  <Tycoon> <Mks> incinirator
22:18:10  <Tycoon> <Mks> or recyle plant
22:18:28  <Tycoon> <Mks> Recycling plant
22:18:32  <Tycoon> <Mks> or incinerator
22:18:58  <Tycoon> <Mks> this Kilimanjaro Unitised Mining Truck is pretty neat I think large capacity and high speed
22:19:08  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> yes
22:19:20  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i wanted to get a good route from it
22:19:23  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> for*
22:24:10  <Tycoon> <Mks> then you can do packaging from the recyling plant to the Fishypool factory
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22:24:54  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> shit, this is cool :)
22:25:04  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> to use this monsters
22:25:16  <Mks> hehe
22:26:01  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i even need other vehicles to carry scrap metal from recycle to the aluminium plant
22:27:21  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> it looks cool :)
22:27:31  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> that mine truck
22:28:34  <Mks> yeah those are nice
22:29:06  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> and they are going on relatively high speed
22:30:07  <Mks> ye I like those trucks too
22:33:56  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i like HEQS
22:34:12  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> because it changes RVs usefulness
22:34:47  <Mks> yeah
22:34:56  <Mks> I am not to found of RVs otherwise
22:35:03  <Mks> tho some in the HEQS are nice
22:35:30  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> i like it at all
22:36:01  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> you have to find their purpose
22:36:27  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> multi-trailered tractors are useful if the source and the destination is close
22:36:38  <Tycoon> <Mks> they are very slow tho
22:36:41  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> like the mine is close to the processing industry
22:36:48  <Tycoon> <Mks> I think they should add RV trains
22:36:50  <Tycoon> <Mks> fast ones
22:36:56  <Tycoon> <Mks> like the ones in australia
22:36:58  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> yes but they need few money to run
22:37:08  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> maybe
22:37:12  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> a new GRF
22:37:26  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> called roadtrains
22:37:41  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> but they should be available only in arctic and tropical
22:38:07  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> cause only low density countries with unfriendly (too hot/too cold) climate can use them
22:38:21  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> like Russia, Australia, Scandinavia, Canada
22:38:24  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> etc.
22:38:46  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> where settlements are rare, also like railways...
22:39:47  <Mks> well should be available in temperate also I think
22:41:24  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> these tractors are cool too :)
22:41:56  <Tycoon> <Mks> hehe a bit small cargo space
22:42:22  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> here in Hungary you can see tractors pulling 2 trailer
22:42:40  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> mostly old Zetor or MTZ or Belarus pulling IFA trailer
22:42:50  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> Zetor is East-German tractor
22:43:00  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> Belarus and MTZ are old Soviets
22:43:14  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> IFA was East German truck
22:43:49  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> sometimes new tractor with old trailers
22:44:04  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> when they collected the grain and take it to the mill
22:44:15  <Mks> ahhh
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22:56:23  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> where are you dudes?
22:56:39  <Mks> I am about to leave
22:56:41  <Mks> for the night
22:56:45  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> ok
22:56:55  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> probably me too
22:57:07  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> maybe i chat with some Asian lady 8my favorites)
22:57:29  <Tycoon> <[HUN]Peter1986> cause my fist girlfriend was Chinese
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