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00:40:16 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:47:18 *** Fuco has quit IRC 06:35:40 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop.dev 06:35:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 07:28:51 *** einKarl has joined #openttdcoop.dev 08:31:57 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop.dev 09:16:56 *** einKarl has quit IRC 10:01:23 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop.dev 10:41:06 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.dev 10:41:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 10:41:45 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop.dev 10:41:45 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v fonsinchen 10:56:34 <fonsinchen> I'd like to set up a new cargodist test game either tonight or tomorrow morning 10:58:22 <KenjiE20> fine by me 10:58:48 <KenjiE20> Have TB shove the binaries to us again, and someone should be able to fire it up 10:59:01 <KenjiE20> (I think that's what happened last time) 10:59:26 <fonsinchen> I can actually set it up myself. 10:59:37 <KenjiE20> cool, even better :P 10:59:39 <fonsinchen> And I'm discussing with TB right now. 10:59:50 <planetmaker> fine also with me 10:59:55 <KenjiE20> @stage New CD game soon 10:59:55 *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop patch test channel - Cargo Distribution++ | http://wiki.openttd.org/CargoDist | STAGE: New CD game soon | Tag/Revision: r19601M | Binaries: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=870671#p870671" 11:00:08 <planetmaker> actually more than fine :-) It's good news :-) 11:03:08 <fonsinchen> I'd like to make that a "semi-coop" game. 11:03:27 <fonsinchen> That means there'll be one company anyone can join, but you can create up to three others 11:03:50 <fonsinchen> I'd like to use your password-irc-trick for the public company. 11:03:53 <planetmaker> sure, why not 11:03:54 <fonsinchen> Is that possible? 11:04:03 <fonsinchen> And how do I do that? 11:04:04 <planetmaker> hm, I don't know 11:04:20 <planetmaker> "sure, why no coopetition" was meant ;-) 11:04:36 <planetmaker> I think it's a server password, not a company password 11:04:40 <KenjiE20> can't use AP to control company passwords 11:05:16 <planetmaker> fonsinchen, a good trick is to give 'coop' as password to the public company 11:05:23 <planetmaker> most coopers will try / know that 11:05:46 <V453000> ooh, massive madness upcoming? 11:06:08 <planetmaker> not more than before ;-) 11:06:11 <fonsinchen> yeah, you can also preview the map: "wasteland" on bananas 11:06:17 <planetmaker> ah :-) 11:06:32 <fonsinchen> and you can suggest settings you'd like to have. 11:07:02 <V453000> omg why that map 11:07:03 <V453000> :( 11:07:07 <planetmaker> http://fickzoo.com/~fonsinchen/ <-- that link is not valid 11:07:29 <fonsinchen> I know 11:07:36 <fonsinchen> but it doesn't matter, does it? 11:07:48 <planetmaker> it doesn't. But it's the link given on bananas 11:08:03 <fonsinchen> I intend to put some content there sometime# 11:09:33 <V453000> why not coop on a random map? :( 11:10:19 <fonsinchen> I want a map with few secondary industries. Otherwise it's too hard. 11:10:36 <fonsinchen> I'm going to change cargodist because of that, but I haven't, yet. 11:11:16 <V453000> im rather talking about the weirdness of the wasteland then amount of industries 11:11:38 <V453000> industries can be spawned as desired on any map :) 11:14:36 <fonsinchen> I like weird maps 11:15:31 <V453000> weird is nice but this has no sense :/ 11:18:13 <V453000> btw. why the 2cc trainset has all train wagons and engines moved to the back of the sprite position? it looks so bad and incompatible with everything else, trains look bad in curves, when entering tunnels or when combined with other trainsets :(( 11:18:28 <V453000> (as I saw a discusion about 2cc earlier :) ) 11:19:07 <fonsinchen> If the reluctance to play the wasteland scenario is a common feeling here, I might change my mind. 11:20:00 <V453000> cooperation can take harder tasks than people who play alone :) 11:20:04 <V453000> especially with cargodist imo 11:27:22 <fonsinchen> The map is still fairly hard; and I can make it even harder with slope-steepness and weight multipliers 11:28:30 <fonsinchen> We can, for example set the goal to grow the towns. This will be quite a task 11:32:37 <V453000> well not really 11:32:50 <V453000> making a hole in a map and putting there a town isnt a hard thing 11:32:59 <V453000> hard thing is to spam indusries and connect them all :) 11:35:52 <fonsinchen> In the last test game we had the problem of dieing secondary industries 11:36:17 <fonsinchen> eh ,,, dieing primary industries 11:36:40 <fonsinchen> because there were too many secondaries and you wouldn't get a good rating because of that. 11:36:54 <fonsinchen> I want to avoid that this time. 11:49:26 <fonsinchen> There you go: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3836 11:49:39 <fonsinchen> and I have also pushed it into my git repository. 11:49:51 <fonsinchen> TrueBrain, can you build it now? 11:50:11 <fonsinchen> sorry 12:15:06 <Ammler> fonsinchen: btw. fickzoo.com is a very ugly domain from German POV 12:16:00 <fonsinchen> hihi 12:16:15 <Ammler> where are you from? 12:16:59 <Ammler> are you Tobias Josefowitz? 12:17:06 <fonsinchen> No 12:17:10 <fonsinchen> But I know him 12:19:31 <Ammler> are you one of those: http://fickzoo.com/fooddangling/cucumberDouble_catholic.jpg :-) 12:20:25 <Ammler> how do you spell it in English btw? 12:21:46 <fonsinchen> no 12:21:55 <fonsinchen> spell what? 12:22:13 <fonsinchen> the catholic cucumber is already in english ... 12:24:57 <Ammler> pronounce* 12:25:06 <Ammler> fickzoo 12:25:44 <fonsinchen> well, the word is open for interpretation. It has something to do with "zoo" and "fucking" 12:25:59 <fonsinchen> everything else is in your imagination. 12:26:11 <Ammler> yeah, that makes it quite perverse 12:28:59 <Ammler> the url costs you a lot reputation I would guess 12:30:46 <planetmaker> it does :-P 12:37:01 <fonsinchen> I don't consider this to be my problem. 12:37:31 <fonsinchen> It's a problem between you and your respective imagination. 12:38:14 <planetmaker> Your reputation is not my problem. 12:39:27 <planetmaker> Your statement basically is that any word is subject to interpretation. Well, yeah. But language is about a common base set of interpretation of words. 12:39:55 <planetmaker> And whatever I image when hearing / reading it - it's vulgar to say at least 12:41:00 <planetmaker> But then I don't mind :-) 12:42:45 <fonsinchen> That's a little contradictory, isn't it? Either you don't mind, then I don't see how it costs me reputation from you. Or it does cost me reputation from you, but then you seem to mind. 12:43:46 <planetmaker> :-) I have no problem either way. 12:44:48 <planetmaker> it depends upon basically what you call 'reputation' :-) 12:46:03 <planetmaker> given that IRC / forum / ... communication gives little clues about other people, the owned URL(s) can is a piece in the puzzle one makes of the other person :-) 12:47:44 <planetmaker> and the URL name has a strong "mentally teenage boy" 'scent' 12:48:18 <planetmaker> whether or not that's true - that's an entirely different issue. 12:48:39 * fonsinchen puts on a t-shirt with "Zicke" written on it. 12:48:44 <planetmaker> :-) 12:50:01 <planetmaker> shall we continue? ;-) 12:50:13 <planetmaker> Your forum avatar kinda rather makes me thing 'teenage girl' ;-) 12:51:13 * fonsinchen stops giving further clues 12:51:33 <planetmaker> hehe. 12:52:56 <Ammler> fonsinchen: it isn't about my imagination, it simply tells me you like fuckint animals :-) 12:53:29 <Ammler> I need imagination to see something not ugly :-P 12:54:31 <planetmaker> hm... do you live in the same town as Tobias Josefowitz? 12:54:40 <fonsinchen> no 12:55:16 <fonsinchen> but I actually don't know what address he has given in the whois 12:55:21 <fonsinchen> so maybe 12:57:42 <planetmaker> something not far from here :-P 12:59:26 <planetmaker> which seems credible according to the telephone book ;-) 12:59:51 <planetmaker> probably his mother's address 13:00:28 <planetmaker> or he's married and it's his wife ;-) 13:03:37 <fonsinchen> I have looked it up myself now: It's not the town I live in. 13:22:39 <fonsinchen> Any suggestions for settings and newgrfs? 13:22:52 <Ammler> japan? 13:23:16 <fonsinchen> why not ... 13:23:38 <Ammler> of course every station set 13:23:50 <fonsinchen> that's a lot. 13:24:12 <Ammler> yes, but those don't conflict 13:24:31 <Ammler> the only type :-) 13:25:34 <planetmaker> Japanese sounds nice. 13:25:49 <planetmaker> What climate has the map? 13:25:59 <KenjiE20> なに？ 13:26:01 <KenjiE20> :P 13:26:10 <planetmaker> might be fun to run ... :-P tropical 13:28:56 <fonsinchen> tropical 13:29:10 <fonsinchen> does japanese work in tropical? 13:29:47 <Ammler> @makeop fonsinchen 13:32:11 <fonsinchen> japanese trains, landscape and signals don't work in tropical 13:32:43 <fonsinchen> I'm wondering why those grf authors are restricting their grfs to certain climates ... 13:34:30 <planetmaker> you're not alone with wondering about that :-) 13:38:55 <fonsinchen> So we cannot use the japan set here, sorry. 13:39:08 <planetmaker> shit happens. 13:39:14 <fonsinchen> I like tropic refurbishment 13:39:21 * planetmaker agrees 13:39:34 <planetmaker> that's what I thought about when I proposed tropic 13:39:47 <planetmaker> maybe the NA city set along with it? 13:40:22 <fonsinchen> can be done 13:40:41 <planetmaker> it then could give a bit... dunno Mexican flair or so :-) 13:40:43 <fonsinchen> japanese buildings work also in tropic, though. 13:40:47 <Ammler> what server are you running? 13:41:07 <Ammler> your own, or our? 13:41:13 <fonsinchen> yours 13:41:20 <fonsinchen> I that's OK for you. 13:41:21 <Ammler> you have access to setup? 13:41:36 <fonsinchen> I should have, but I need some directions 13:41:46 <fonsinchen> first I'm setting up a start.sav, though 13:42:12 <fonsinchen> so who wants NA city set and who wants japanese buildings? 13:42:24 <Ammler> both :-P 13:42:38 <fonsinchen> does that work? 13:42:40 <Ammler> NA city is a bit monotone, imo 13:43:01 <Ammler> yes, house sets are usually also mixable 13:43:21 <fonsinchen> NA city set isn't on bananas, is it? 13:43:50 <planetmaker> hm, dunno. It's in our grfpack, though 13:44:07 <planetmaker> I guess it isn't on bananas. It's one of those canset thingies 13:44:57 <fonsinchen> maybe we just use japanese buildings then. I'd like to keep the barrier low for people to join. 13:45:08 <fonsinchen> we need a tram set 13:46:03 <planetmaker> japanese trams? 13:46:31 <planetmaker> generic trams is on bananas 13:47:15 <planetmaker> the only other one I see there is Dutch 13:47:24 <planetmaker> Which wouldn't quite fit the setting I see evolving 13:48:03 <fonsinchen> I have eGRVTS, generic trams, durch and suspended monorail 13:48:16 <fonsinchen> suspended monorail sounds funny 13:48:21 <fonsinchen> has anyone tried that? 13:49:58 <planetmaker> long ago, I don't quite recall 13:50:20 <planetmaker> having that many sets makes IMHO for a bit too long vehicle list 13:50:47 <fonsinchen> I'm only adding one of them 13:51:21 <fonsinchen> I'm using japanese and industrial stations now. That should be enough, I guess. 13:55:08 <planetmaker> hm... 13:55:25 <planetmaker> add also rural stations 13:55:31 <planetmaker> and suburban 13:55:42 <planetmaker> they can be fun :-) 13:56:28 <fonsinchen> OK 13:57:41 <fonsinchen> vehicles never expire: on or off? 13:57:51 <planetmaker> what about NA roads with parameter such that dirt roads are used? 13:58:06 <planetmaker> personally I prefer vehicles never expire 13:58:15 <planetmaker> time flow in openttd is anyway weired. 13:58:57 <fonsinchen> NA roads isn't on bananas 13:59:20 <planetmaker> true, forgot about that 14:00:01 <planetmaker> wanna add FIRS? ;-) 14:00:10 <planetmaker> oh, and FISH definitely 14:00:20 <planetmaker> maybe HEQS? 14:00:40 <planetmaker> IMHO FISH and HEQS are basically without alternative currently 14:00:43 <fonsinchen> FISH is useless. There is no water 14:00:50 <planetmaker> canals :-) 14:00:56 <fonsinchen> FIRS is difficult as the industries are already there 14:01:01 <planetmaker> ok 14:01:08 <fonsinchen> HEQS can be done 14:01:10 <planetmaker> but then houses are also already there 14:01:25 <fonsinchen> but they will be regenerated into japanese ones :) 14:01:46 <fonsinchen> and 2cc chimera works with tropic refurbishment ;) 14:03:52 <fonsinchen> a plane set maybe? I don't like planes so I'd like to make them expensive. 14:04:53 <planetmaker> fonsinchen, then add the base cost modifier newgrf with appropriate parameters 14:05:02 <planetmaker> and / or limit the amount of trains per company to... 10 14:05:17 <planetmaker> maybe usein av8 1.7? 14:05:21 <planetmaker> *using 14:07:57 <fonsinchen> OK, av8 with 10 planes per company 14:08:12 <fonsinchen> any further grf suggestions? 14:08:57 <planetmaker> what's the list now? 14:10:03 <planetmaker> stations + tropic refurbishment + <some tram> + heqs + chimera + av8? 14:11:03 <fonsinchen> suspended monorail as trams 14:11:37 <fonsinchen> and japanese stations, trees, buildings 14:12:21 <planetmaker> well... give it a shot, I think 14:14:20 <fonsinchen> currency: Yen, dirve left, french town names (as that cannot be changed anymore) 14:15:54 <fonsinchen> weight multiplier 7, slopes for RV: 10%, realistic acceleration for RV 14:20:25 <fonsinchen> trees only in rain forest is a nice option ... but probably too evil in this case. 14:21:14 <planetmaker> uh... drive left :S 14:21:17 <fonsinchen> any further suggestions for settings? 14:21:31 <fonsinchen> japanese drive left, don't they? 14:21:39 <planetmaker> currency is a local setting and not relevant for the savegame. Yes, they do. 14:25:45 <fonsinchen> Well, then we have a start.sav now, I guess: http://fickzoo.com/fonsinchen/start.sav 14:25:56 <fonsinchen> I'll be back in an hour or two. 14:30:26 <planetmaker> enjoy :-) 14:34:08 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 14:40:50 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.dev 14:40:50 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Chris_Booth 14:40:55 <Chris_Booth> @devoice 14:40:55 *** Webster sets mode: -v Chris_Booth 15:10:39 *** Coco-Banana-Man has joined #openttdcoop.dev 15:22:33 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop.dev 15:22:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v fonsinchen 15:26:40 <fonsinchen> I'm back 15:26:58 <planetmaker> welcome back 15:27:43 <fonsinchen> Could you tell me the login username of the server? I'd like to set it up now. And I'm still open to suggestions. 15:28:02 <fonsinchen> I have an ssh key there, but I forgot the username. 15:28:03 <planetmaker> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM593IIpjHI <-- I couldn't help myself to google a bit. Is that happening known to you? ;-) 15:28:04 <Webster> Title: YouTube - Fickzoo (at www.youtube.com) 15:28:12 <planetmaker> ottdc 15:28:23 <planetmaker> ottdc@mz.openttdcoop.org 15:29:27 <fonsinchen> I haven't seen that video before. Must be some fans of ours. 15:29:55 <planetmaker> :-) 15:30:40 <fonsinchen> :) 15:30:44 <fonsinchen> rofl 15:35:26 *** OwenS has joined #openttdcoop.dev 15:36:12 <fonsinchen> and how does the autopilot work? 15:36:24 <fonsinchen> and shall we enable desync debug? 15:37:05 <planetmaker> if you like, we can do that 15:37:23 <planetmaker> probably worth it. 15:37:31 <planetmaker> desync debug=3 15:37:36 <planetmaker> can be done via command line 15:37:59 <planetmaker> but I guess it needs to be a debug build for that 15:38:01 <Ammler> also do svn up 15:38:17 <Ammler> there are some pause message fixes 15:38:42 <fonsinchen> svn up on what? 15:39:00 <Ammler> cd autopilot/ && svn up 15:39:06 <fonsinchen> ah 15:39:15 <fonsinchen> and then, how do I start the autopilot? 15:39:26 <Ammler> ./autopilot.tcl load save/... 15:39:40 <Ammler> maybe ./autopilot.tcl load save/... | tee game.log 15:39:56 <planetmaker> yeah. the latter is nicer 15:40:00 <Ammler> hmm 15:40:01 <Ammler> no 15:40:13 <fonsinchen> how does it know which openttd to start? 15:40:19 <Ammler> if you use desync debug and not logging patch 15:40:32 <Ammler> it is a bit useless and you have a command log in autosaves 15:40:55 <Ammler> fonsinchen: it starts ./openttd 15:41:04 <Ammler> so you need to copy the bundle to autopilot 15:41:14 <Ammler> cp bundle/* autopilot/ -Rf 15:41:36 <Ammler> or whereevery you build it 15:43:57 <Ammler> fonsinchen: do you use play.sh? 15:44:15 <Ammler> doesn't look like 15:44:23 <Ammler> as it copies to play-is 15:44:47 <fonsinchen> at the moment I just do "make" 15:45:13 <fonsinchen> but I'll do "make bundle" next and then see where I'm going to put the result 15:45:53 <Ammler> ~/svn-cargodist/autopilot 15:47:02 <fonsinchen> yes, I did that 15:47:47 <Ammler> fonsinchen: maybe you could update play.sh 15:48:05 <Ammler> specially the point about update git repo 15:48:11 <Ammler> is that just git pull? 15:48:14 <fonsinchen> what is play.sh? 15:48:31 <Ammler> a bash script in ~/git-repos/cargodist 15:50:02 <fonsinchen> is it worth it? 15:52:35 <fonsinchen> OK, I've updated it. 15:54:57 *** Tycoon has joined #openttdcoop.dev 15:54:57 <Tycoon> Autopilot engaged 15:54:57 <Tycoon> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop.dev:} Cargodist' 15:54:57 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Tycoon 15:55:10 * planetmaker is off for a bit 15:55:35 <fonsinchen> OK, it's running. 15:55:58 <fonsinchen> Where can I set the maximum number of companies? 15:57:17 <Ammler> fonsinchen: easiest is here 15:57:20 <Ammler> !rcon 15:57:30 <fonsinchen> !rcon 15:57:30 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: you are not allowed to use !rcon 15:57:42 <fonsinchen> ... 15:58:23 <Ammler> @op fonsinchen 15:58:23 *** Webster sets mode: +o fonsinchen 15:59:00 <fonsinchen> !port 15:59:13 <fonsinchen> !rcon 16:00:24 <fonsinchen> !rcon help 16:00:24 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: ---- OpenTTD Console Help ---- 16:00:24 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: - commands: [command to list all commands: list_cmds] 16:00:24 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: call commands with '<command> <arg2> <arg3>...' 16:00:24 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: - to assign strings, or use them as arguments, enclose it within quotes 16:00:24 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: like this: '<command> "string argument with spaces"' 16:00:25 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: you have 3 more messages 16:00:43 <fonsinchen> !help 16:01:07 <Ammler> !rcon list_settings companies 16:01:07 <Tycoon> Ammler: All settings with their current value: 16:01:07 <Tycoon> Ammler: network.autoclean_companies = on 16:01:07 <Tycoon> Ammler: network.max_companies = 15 16:01:07 <Tycoon> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value 16:01:30 <Ammler> fonsinchen: just ask 16:01:46 <fonsinchen> I'm looking for the port it's running on 16:01:46 <Ammler> !rcon server_name 16:01:46 <Tycoon> Ammler: Current value for 'server_name' is: '#openttdcoop.dev: Cargodist' 16:02:02 <Ammler> !ip 16:02:02 <Tycoon> Ammler: mz.openttdcoop.org:3999 16:02:13 <Ammler> but that doesn't need to be true 16:02:18 <Ammler> !rcon list_settings port 16:02:18 <Tycoon> Ammler: All settings with their current value: 16:02:18 <Tycoon> Ammler: station.never_expire_airports = off 16:02:18 <Tycoon> Ammler: network.server_port = 3999 16:02:18 <Tycoon> Ammler: network.last_port = 0 16:02:18 <Tycoon> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value 16:02:22 <Ammler> it is :-) 16:02:52 <fonsinchen> !rcon my openttd doesn't see it there ... 16:02:52 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: ERROR: command not found 16:03:01 <Ammler> :-P 16:03:09 <Ammler> !revision 16:03:09 <Tycoon> Ammler: Game version is g3c5595c9-cd 16:03:21 <Ammler> what if you add it manually? 16:03:23 <Ammler> !url 16:03:23 <Tycoon> Ammler: http://www.openttdcoop.org/servers/mz 16:03:51 <Ammler> yeah, offline :-) 16:03:58 <Ammler> s/:-)/:-(/ 16:05:07 <Ammler> let me check the fw 16:07:49 <Ammler> yes, fw is closed 16:07:57 <Ammler> will open in the next minutes 16:09:49 <fonsinchen> !rcon setting network.max_companies = 3 16:09:49 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: - Change setting for all clients. Usage: 'setting <name> [<value>]' 16:09:49 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: - Omitting <value> will print out the current value of the setting. 16:09:56 <fonsinchen> !rcon setting network.max_companies 3 16:10:17 <fonsinchen> !rcon list_settings companies 16:10:17 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: All settings with their current value: 16:10:17 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: network.autoclean_companies = on 16:10:17 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: network.max_companies = 3 16:10:17 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: Use 'setting' command to change a value 16:10:17 <Ammler> no response=success 16:10:32 <fonsinchen> !rcon list_settings network 16:10:32 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: All settings with their current value: 16:10:32 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: gui.network_chat_box_width = 700 16:10:32 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: gui.network_chat_box_height = 25 16:10:32 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: network.sync_freq = 100 16:10:32 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: network.frame_freq = 0 16:10:33 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: you have 27 more messages 16:10:51 <Ammler> if you know the key, you can query it with set but without value 16:10:51 <fonsinchen> !rcon list_settings connected 16:10:51 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: All settings with their current value: 16:10:51 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: Use 'setting' command to change a value 16:10:53 <fonsinchen> !rcon list_settings connect 16:10:53 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: All settings with their current value: 16:10:53 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: network.connect_to_ip = 16:10:53 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: Use 'setting' command to change a value 16:11:02 <fonsinchen> !rcon list_settings minimum 16:11:02 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: All settings with their current value: 16:11:02 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: Use 'setting' command to change a value 16:11:28 <fonsinchen> How do I specify the minimum number of clients needed to unpause? 16:11:41 <Ammler> !rcon set min_active_clients 16:11:41 <Tycoon> Ammler: Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '2' (min: 0, max: 255) 16:11:59 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen joined the game 16:12:09 <Ammler> !dl 16:12:09 <Tycoon> Ammler: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|deb.etch|deb.lenny|lin|lin64|source|win32|win64|win9x 16:12:13 <Ammler> !dl lin 16:12:13 <Tycoon> Ammler: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g5b3732ce/openttd-cargodist-g5b3732ce-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 16:12:16 <fonsinchen> OK, something is wrong 16:12:30 <fonsinchen> this is the default title game 16:12:42 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has left the game (leaving) 16:12:47 <Ammler> start the game without autopilot 16:12:56 <Ammler> and -d grf=1 16:13:23 *** Tycoon has quit IRC 16:14:14 <Ammler> fonsinchen: path of the save? 16:14:53 <fonsinchen> save/start.grf 16:14:59 <fonsinchen> save/start.sav 16:15:43 *** Tycoon has joined #openttdcoop.dev 16:15:43 <Tycoon> Autopilot engaged 16:15:43 <Tycoon> Starting new game: '{#openttdcoop.dev:} Cargodist' 16:15:43 <Tycoon> Landscape: tropic 16:15:43 <Tycoon> Dimensions: 512x512 16:15:43 <Tycoon> Starting year: 1950 16:15:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Tycoon 16:15:46 <Ammler> !content 16:16:06 <Ammler> hmm 16:17:20 <Ammler> need to open anther port 16:17:24 <fonsinchen> I'll be back in a few minutes 16:17:26 <Ammler> sorry about that :-( 16:23:34 <fonsinchen> Have you opened the port? 16:30:05 <Ammler> fonsinchen: yes 16:30:14 <Ammler> !content 16:31:17 <Tycoon> Server closed down by admin 16:31:21 <Tycoon> Server has exited 16:31:21 *** Tycoon has quit IRC 16:31:39 *** Tycoon has joined #openttdcoop.dev 16:31:39 <Tycoon> Autopilot engaged 16:31:39 <Tycoon> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop.dev:} Cargodist' 16:31:39 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Tycoon 16:31:42 <Ammler> !info 16:31:43 <Tycoon> Ammler: #:1(Red) Company Name: 'Unnamed' Year Founded: 1919 Money: 99808 Loan: 100000 Value: 1 (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 16:31:52 <Ammler> is that your map? 16:32:10 <Ammler> !revision 16:32:10 <Tycoon> Ammler: Game version is g3c5595c9-cd 16:32:19 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen joined the game 16:32:20 <Ammler> !dl lin 16:32:20 <Tycoon> Ammler: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g5b3732ce/openttd-cargodist-g5b3732ce-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 16:32:24 <fonsinchen> looks good 16:32:46 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has joined company #1 16:34:06 <fonsinchen> nice 16:34:20 <Tycoon> *** Player joined the game 16:34:21 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 16:34:26 <fonsinchen> how do I find out how many clients have to be connected to make the game start? 16:34:54 <Ammler> !rcon min_active_clients 16:34:54 <Tycoon> Ammler: ERROR: command not found 16:34:57 <Ammler> !rcon set min_active_clients 16:34:57 <Tycoon> Ammler: Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '2' (min: 0, max: 255) 16:35:10 <Ammler> but it might be paused manually? 16:35:15 <Ammler> did you update autopilot? 16:35:18 <fonsinchen> yes 16:35:25 <fonsinchen> it is paused manually 16:35:27 <Ammler> !rcon unpause 16:35:28 <Tycoon> *** Game unpaused (manual) 16:35:39 <fonsinchen> I'd still like to set that to 2 16:35:47 <Ammler> it is 16:36:11 <Tycoon> <Player> what a strange map 16:36:19 <Tycoon> *** Player has changed his/her name to Amm1er 16:36:46 <fonsinchen> I'll announce it now 16:37:06 <Tycoon> <Amm1er> you really like this map? 16:37:16 <fonsinchen> you don't? 16:37:24 <Tycoon> <Amm1er> :-D 16:37:32 <fonsinchen> If no one likes it we can play a different one. 16:37:53 <Tycoon> <Amm1er> I don't care 16:39:04 <Tycoon> <Amm1er> there is no food 16:39:18 <Tycoon> <Amm1er> well, some fruits 16:40:12 <Tycoon> <Amm1er> interesting tunnels 16:40:13 <fonsinchen> and some maize 16:40:20 <Tycoon> <Amm1er> did you add the fast bus? 16:41:15 <fonsinchen> no 16:41:30 <fonsinchen> there's plenty road vehicles to play with, though 16:42:42 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has joined spectators 16:42:44 <Tycoon> *** Game paused (number of players) 16:42:57 <Tycoon> *** Amm1er has joined spectators 16:51:06 <V453000> wee 16:51:13 <V453000> !dl win32 16:51:13 <Tycoon> V453000: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g5b3732ce/openttd-cargodist-g5b3732ce-windows-win32.zip 16:51:25 <Ammler> that is the old version 16:51:43 <Ammler> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g3c5595c9/ 16:52:20 <V453000> tanks :) 16:52:21 <fonsinchen> can we change the output of that command somewhere? 16:52:56 <Ammler> yes 16:53:08 <Ammler> but it seems not to match !revision 16:53:11 <Ammler> !revision 16:53:11 <Tycoon> Ammler: Game version is g3c5595c9-cd 16:53:19 <fonsinchen> how? 16:53:20 <Ammler> ah, like last time already 16:53:27 <Ammler> fonsinchen: screen 0 16:54:49 <Ammler> !dl lin 16:54:49 <Tycoon> Ammler: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g3c5595c9/openttd-cargodist-g3c5595c9-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 16:54:56 <fonsinchen> !dl win23 16:54:56 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: unknown option "win23" 16:55:07 <Ammler> !dl 16:55:07 <Tycoon> Ammler: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|deb.etch|deb.lenny|lin|lin64|source|win32|win64|win9x 16:55:08 <fonsinchen> !dl win32 16:55:08 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g3c5595c9/openttd-cargodist-g3c5595c9-windows-win32.zip 16:55:09 <V453000> !ip 16:55:09 <Tycoon> V453000: mz.openttdcoop.org:3999 16:55:21 <Ammler> I don't think, autostart etc. works 16:55:36 <V453000> dont see -.- 16:55:59 <fonsinchen> !dl autostart 16:55:59 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Autostart 16:56:10 <Ammler> !dl 16:56:10 <Tycoon> Ammler: !dl deb.etch|deb.lenny|lin|lin64|osx|source|win32|win64|win9x 16:56:24 <fonsinchen> what is autostart supposed to be? 16:56:25 <Ammler> !dl osx 16:56:25 <Tycoon> Ammler: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g3c5595c9/openttd-cargodist-g3c5595c9-macosx-universal.zip 16:56:44 <Ammler> !dl osx 16:56:44 <Tycoon> Ammler: sorry, there is no build for macosx-universal, please compile it yourself! If possible, share with others 16:57:39 <Ammler> fonsinchen: like the homepage tells 16:57:55 <Ammler> a bash script similar to the windows thing ottdau 16:58:32 <Ammler> does ottdau work? 17:05:48 *** PeterT has quit IRC 17:13:45 <Tycoon> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 17:13:57 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.dev 17:44:58 *** PeterT has quit IRC 17:48:53 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.dev 17:54:30 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 17:54:56 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.dev 17:54:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Chris_Booth 18:12:23 *** Razaekel has quit IRC 18:12:47 *** Razaekel has joined #openttdcoop.dev 18:15:42 <fonsinchen> maybe we should update the topic title ... 18:17:48 *** fonsinchen changes topic to "#openttdcoop patch test channel - Cargo Distribution | http://wiki.openttd.org/CargoDist | STAGE: game is running | Tag/Revision: g3c5595c9-cd | Binaries: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g3c5595c9/" 18:18:43 *** OwenS has quit IRC 18:33:53 *** mib_a0pdre has joined #openttdcoop.dev 18:34:04 <mib_a0pdre> Anyone here? 18:36:38 <V453000> no 18:37:26 <mib_a0pdre> :) 18:37:33 <mib_a0pdre> How do I get to the cargodist server? 18:37:37 <mib_a0pdre> what's the address/name? 18:38:15 <planetmaker> !IP 18:38:21 <planetmaker> !ip 18:38:21 <Tycoon> planetmaker: mz.openttdcoop.org:3999 18:38:43 <mib_a0pdre> I typed that into Add Server but it didn't do anything 18:39:11 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has left the game (leaving) 18:40:06 <fonsinchen> maybe it showed up at the bottom of the list? 18:40:19 <fonsinchen> Or maybe you're not using the right binary? 18:40:32 <fonsinchen> What version does it tell in the title screen? 18:40:55 <mib_a0pdre> g3c5595c9M-cd 18:40:55 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen joined the game 18:40:57 <mib_a0pdre> I just got it 18:41:00 <PeterT> hey hey 18:41:10 <fonsinchen> it works for me, I just rechecked 18:41:15 <fonsinchen> do you see the other servers? 18:41:18 <PeterT> !revision 18:41:18 <Tycoon> PeterT: Game version is g3c5595c9-cd 18:41:30 <PeterT> fonsinchen: you figured out the M problem? 18:41:37 <fonsinchen> sort of 18:41:49 <mib_a0pdre> so is my version different? 18:41:49 <fonsinchen> it is temporarily silenced 18:41:59 <fonsinchen> ah, you have "M" 18:42:02 <fonsinchen> that's wrong 18:42:10 <fonsinchen> where did you get that binary from? 18:42:12 <mib_a0pdre> that's the version at the compiler 18:42:17 <fonsinchen> oh no .... 18:42:22 <mib_a0pdre> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g3c5595c9/ 18:42:26 <fonsinchen> what platform? 18:42:28 <fonsinchen> Windows? 18:42:32 <mib_a0pdre> Windows 65-bit 18:42:34 <mib_a0pdre> *65 18:42:35 <mib_a0pdre> 64 18:42:43 * fonsinchen bangs head on table 18:42:44 <Tycoon> *** Progman joined the game 18:43:08 <fonsinchen> has anyone checked the 32bit-Windows version? 18:43:22 <mib_a0pdre> should I get thato ne? 18:43:46 <fonsinchen> If you could check the revision on that it would be very helpful 18:43:54 <Tycoon> *** Progman has left the game (leaving) 18:44:11 <mib_a0pdre> Well, at the site it has the same name 18:44:15 <mib_a0pdre> should I download it to check? 18:44:53 <fonsinchen> I think you are looking at the wrong site 18:45:03 <fonsinchen> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g3c5595c9/ 18:45:05 <mib_a0pdre> Where should I go? 18:45:14 <mib_a0pdre> That's the same link 18:45:32 <fonsinchen> not http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g5b3732ce/ 18:45:48 <fonsinchen> but on 3c55... the file names are without "M" 18:46:20 <fonsinchen> so, yes, please download and check the 32bit-Version 18:46:22 <mib_a0pdre> but it gave me one with m 18:46:33 <mib_a0pdre> right-o 18:46:46 <fonsinchen> so obviously the file names and the game version don't match 18:46:55 <fonsinchen> ? 18:47:09 <mib_a0pdre> it has m too 18:47:37 <mib_a0pdre> strange 18:47:46 <mib_a0pdre> Hah! I found the server 18:47:48 <fonsinchen> well ... we need someone to recompile the windows binaries manually now 18:47:49 <mib_a0pdre> Version Mismatch 18:47:55 <mib_a0pdre> that sucks 18:48:22 <mib_a0pdre> how long will that take? 18:49:01 <fonsinchen> I don't know. I first need an idea on how to do that. 18:58:34 <Ammler> !revision 18:58:34 <Tycoon> Ammler: Game version is g3c5595c9-cd 18:58:44 <mib_a0pdre> !revision 18:58:44 <Tycoon> mib_a0pdre: Game version is g3c5595c9-cd 18:58:49 <Ammler> fonsinchen: it would be nice, if that matches ^ 18:58:55 <mib_a0pdre> pity that it doesn't 18:58:56 <Ammler> !dl lin 18:58:56 <Tycoon> Ammler: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g3c5595c9/openttd-cargodist-g3c5595c9-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 18:59:06 <Ammler> I mean the "-cd" 18:59:23 <Ammler> then we could reuse that for the dl path 19:00:07 <fonsinchen> I don't know where the file name is generated. 19:04:47 <Ammler> fonsinchen: 3rd parameter at findeversion.sh 19:07:16 <fonsinchen> findversion doesn't accept parameters as far as I can see 19:15:09 <planetmaker> return parameter :-) 19:16:43 <fonsinchen> the third "return parameter" is the modification bit 19:22:08 <mib_a0pdre> so? 19:22:13 <mib_a0pdre> any solution? 19:54:11 *** mib_a0pdre has quit IRC 19:56:21 <Ammler> fonsinchen: why does it matter, how clean your $CLEAN_REV is, if you patch the whole openttd? 19:57:07 <Ammler> as long as it is different to official openttd, all fine 19:59:21 <Ammler> g9e7e0a6b-cd 19821 0 g9e7e0a6b <-- that is just :-( 20:00:16 <fonsinchen> I have different branches 20:00:31 <Ammler> then you could add -$BRANCH 20:00:47 <Ammler> or whatever 20:00:58 <Ammler> I am quite sure, it would have been possible 20:01:04 <fonsinchen> again: if you're interested in the branch name, why don't you read the first field? 20:01:17 <Ammler> it isn't me, it is the compile-farm 20:01:43 <Ammler> the compile farm uses the 4th field 20:01:58 <fonsinchen> that's stupid of the compile farm 20:02:13 <Ammler> well, but easy workaroundable 20:04:08 <Ammler> hmm, we could now simply remove the branch for the path 20:15:31 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has left the game (leaving) 20:15:41 <Tycoon> Server closed down by admin 20:15:45 <Tycoon> Server has exited 20:15:45 *** Tycoon has quit IRC 20:17:37 *** Tycoon has joined #openttdcoop.dev 20:17:37 <Tycoon> Autopilot engaged 20:17:37 <Tycoon> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop.dev:} Cargodist' 20:17:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Tycoon 20:20:12 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen joined the game 20:23:48 *** fonsinchen changes topic to "#openttdcoop patch test channel - Cargo Distribution | http://wiki.openttd.org/CargoDist | STAGE: game is running | Tag/Revision: g9e7e0a6b-cd | Binaries: will be available soon" 20:23:55 <PeterT> !dl win32 20:23:55 <Tycoon> PeterT: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g3c5595c9/openttd-cargodist-g3c5595c9-windows-win32.zip 20:24:06 <fonsinchen> that's wrong 20:24:47 <PeterT> !revision 20:24:48 <Tycoon> PeterT: Game version is g9e7e0a6b-cd 20:25:05 <PeterT> it's not there :-( 20:25:13 <PeterT> at http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/ 20:25:33 <fonsinchen> !rcon setting network.max_companies = 3 20:25:33 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: - Change setting for all clients. Usage: 'setting <name> [<value>]' 20:25:33 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: - Omitting <value> will print out the current value of the setting. 20:25:39 <fonsinchen> !rcon setting network.max_companies 3 20:26:04 <fonsinchen> PeterT: read the topic title again 20:26:20 <PeterT> Ah 20:30:24 <fonsinchen> !rcon setting network.max_companies 20:30:25 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: Current value for 'network.max_companies' is: '3' (min: 1, max: 15) 20:34:53 <fonsinchen> !dl win32 20:34:53 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g9e7e0a6b/openttd-cargodist-g9e7e0a6b-windows-win32.zip 20:36:14 *** fonsinchen changes topic to "#openttdcoop patch test channel - Cargo Distribution | http://wiki.openttd.org/CargoDist | STAGE: game is running | Tag/Revision: g9e7e0a6b-cd | Binaries: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g9e7e0a6b/" 20:37:59 <fonsinchen> so, the binaries are available now and the server is running again. 20:38:20 <planetmaker> nice :-) 20:38:22 <planetmaker> !dl osx 20:38:22 <Tycoon> planetmaker: sorry, there is no build for macosx-universal, please compile it yourself! If possible, share with others 20:38:25 <planetmaker> hmpf 20:38:30 <planetmaker> of course :-) 20:38:43 <planetmaker> !dl svn 20:38:43 <Tycoon> planetmaker: unknown option "svn" 20:38:55 <fonsinchen> !dl 20:38:55 <planetmaker> !dl 20:38:55 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: !dl deb.etch|deb.lenny|lin|lin64|osx|source|win32|win64|win9x 20:38:56 <Tycoon> planetmaker: !dl deb.etch|deb.lenny|lin|lin64|osx|source|win32|win64|win9x 20:39:05 <planetmaker> !dl source 20:39:05 <Tycoon> planetmaker: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g9e7e0a6b/openttd-cargodist-g9e7e0a6b-source.tar.bz2 20:40:12 <Ammler> !svn 20:40:14 <Ammler> !git 20:44:49 <fonsinchen> !dl lin64 20:44:50 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g9e7e0a6b/openttd-cargodist-g9e7e0a6b-linux-generic-amd64.tar.bz2 20:46:02 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has left the game (connection lost) 20:47:04 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen joined the game 20:50:19 <planetmaker> fonsinchen: http://paste.openttd.org/225774 20:51:27 <Tycoon> *** test joined the game 20:51:40 <Tycoon> *** test has left the game (leaving) 20:52:41 <fonsinchen> interesting, I should fix that 20:53:23 <fonsinchen> OK, the versions match for linux 64bit and win32 20:55:43 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.dev 20:56:09 <planetmaker> hmpf. The source is noRev00 20:56:19 <planetmaker> so another advantage of setting the version explicitly 20:56:25 <fonsinchen> That's because you probably don't have git 20:56:35 <Tycoon> *** Zuuu joined the game 20:56:37 <planetmaker> I don't. I used the supplied source bundle 20:56:40 <fonsinchen> you can just edit rev.cpp in this case 20:56:46 <planetmaker> But that should give me the version, shouldn't it? 20:56:52 <planetmaker> no, configure will do 20:56:57 <planetmaker> ./configure --revision=blubber 20:56:59 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Hmm, intresting map as always... 20:57:10 <Ammler> the same with official nightly sources 20:57:35 <planetmaker> really, nightlies show the same? I guess I didn't download a source bundle of OpenTTD for about 2.5 years 20:57:43 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has joined company #1 20:57:55 <planetmaker> !revision 20:57:55 <Tycoon> planetmaker: Game version is g9e7e0a6b-cd 20:58:15 <Tycoon> *** Zuuu has left the game (leaving) 20:58:54 <Tycoon> *** planetm4ker joined the game 20:58:55 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> hello folks 20:59:02 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> ups? 20:59:18 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> is the map indeed intended this way? 20:59:24 <fonsinchen> !unpause 20:59:24 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has unpaused the server. (Use !auto to set it back.) 20:59:30 <fonsinchen> oops 20:59:36 <fonsinchen> yes 20:59:48 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> interesting 20:59:49 <fonsinchen> I have specially created it for this game 21:00:20 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> :-) 21:00:27 <fonsinchen> why is it still paused? 21:00:34 <fonsinchen> !auto 21:00:34 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has enabled autopause mode. 21:00:48 <Zuu> "!rcon unpasue" might work? 21:00:58 <fonsinchen> !rcon unpause 21:00:59 <Tycoon> *** Game unpaused (manual) 21:01:31 <fonsinchen> we need to wait for the first train to become available anyway 21:01:43 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> we setup bus service? 21:01:52 <Zuu> If you have op in this channel, you can use !rcon to execute any console command on the server you like. 21:02:24 <fonsinchen> trains will be available in a few months, buses will take longer 21:02:30 <fonsinchen> right now we only have planes 21:02:41 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> woot? Also no road vehicles? 21:02:44 <Zuu> What year is it? 21:02:51 <fonsinchen> 1919 21:03:03 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> loool 21:03:13 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> people invented planes here before land transport 21:03:19 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> what a strange world :-) 21:03:56 <Zuu> Well, with the far distancies they maybe had better use for planes :-p 21:04:14 <Zuu> But duno what they use the long tunnels for :-p 21:04:22 <Zuu> hangars? 21:05:27 <fonsinchen> the trains are there 21:06:03 <planetmaker> !rcon set plane_speed 1 21:06:03 <Tycoon> planetmaker: ERROR: This command/variable is not available during network games. 21:06:08 <planetmaker> darn 21:06:40 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> planes are currently flying at 35km/h effectively :S 21:06:54 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> we should make a plan 21:07:13 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> without money? 21:07:38 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> we should first make money :-) 21:07:40 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> we can first use the copper mines to create money makers 21:07:58 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> good idea. Let's start with that carefully 21:08:04 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> only 30k left 21:08:08 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> should be fairly easy even with the weak engines 21:08:14 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> maybe it gets better when the planes finally arrive. But I doubt it 21:08:20 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> we can borrow more 21:08:34 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> good :-) 21:09:08 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> which factory do we use? 21:09:23 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> shall we use the one near Orleons? 21:09:33 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> Orleans? 21:09:39 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> the one in the north is not that crowded with houses 21:09:55 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> and it has space for two very long tracks 21:10:01 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> so, yes 21:10:08 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I'll build a station there 21:10:22 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> you mean the Northern one in the Orleans pit? 21:10:37 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> yes you do :-P 21:10:43 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> the one where I built the station 21:10:57 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> TL=5? 21:11:07 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> ok 21:11:19 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> I'm asking :-) You built the station ;-) 21:11:31 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> hm, which is 7 21:11:37 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> ok, so 7 21:11:37 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I just made that as long as it would fit 21:11:59 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> one shorter 21:12:09 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> or we cannot add a x with tracks in front 21:12:50 <Zuu> Why not play the fun game of having longer stations than trains so you can see whom built the train depending on what client setting you have for the default stop location. :-D 21:13:12 <Zuu> Eg. I have 'middle' as default, but someone else might have 'far' or 'near' as default. 21:13:22 <Tycoon> * planetm4ker has near 21:14:46 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> noooo! 21:14:49 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> no ore wagons! 21:14:57 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> argh 21:15:09 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> will be available soon, though 21:18:21 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> I wonder where our planes might be ;-) 21:18:36 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> taking about a year for the distance 21:18:43 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> :-P 21:19:34 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> did you sell them again? 21:19:48 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> now we have waggons 21:19:59 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I didn't sell the planes 21:20:09 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> they're still there 21:20:31 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> right... I must have gotten a wrong click somewhere 21:26:47 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> :-P 21:26:53 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> built at wrong depot? ;-) 21:27:07 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> not a big problem, though 21:31:39 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> nice, we make profit :-) 21:36:01 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> lol @ income from planes 21:38:38 <Tycoon> * planetm4ker wonders whether we should consider double traction 21:38:54 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> 61 vs 64 21:39:09 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> not really worth it for copper 21:39:43 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> mainly the acceleration uphill. 21:39:47 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> how slow are the single traction trains on the hill climb? 21:39:51 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> but the difference is not really big 21:40:13 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> I didn't see a train with the same length going uphill with a single engine. So dunno 21:40:23 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> we'll know soon 21:40:49 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> we might be in for a nasty surprise ... the double traction train does only 45 uphill 21:41:00 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> yes, that I know :-) 21:41:06 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> might turn out the same 21:42:14 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> big difference 21:42:24 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> 27 21:42:44 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> but that's only a short distance 21:42:50 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> yup 21:43:53 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> fonsinchen: look at the waiting cargo of any station 21:44:11 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> it doesn't make sense to show the "+" if there's only one source, the station itself 21:44:35 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> often there will be multiple destinations 21:44:45 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> then you can see those with the "+" 21:45:32 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> and you don't want to open the additional details on all entries with only one source / destination /via 21:45:51 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> it quickly gets messy 21:46:09 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> yes 21:46:24 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> but when there's nothing to display, the + is distracting and mis-leading 21:46:50 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> all of our cargo has 3 levels of detail there 21:47:01 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> so there is always something to diesplay 21:49:17 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I guess we should sell the aircraft 21:49:32 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> lol yes 21:49:44 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> "Heading for someone" ?? 21:49:50 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> that's interesting 21:49:50 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> they seem like a project of the same revenue like Virgin Galactic or so 21:50:12 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> look at their status bars 21:50:22 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> uh? someone? That's interesting 21:50:46 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> we don't get the same thing with trains, do we? 21:51:00 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> ah 21:51:06 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> they are heading to a depot 21:51:25 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> that'd need checking with current trunk 21:51:35 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> yes, I'm sending them to the depot in order to sell them 21:51:57 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> the string is definitely buggy :-) 21:53:37 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> it's a trunk bug 21:53:43 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> I'll make a report 21:54:06 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> ok, thanks 21:54:16 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> then I don't have to check 21:56:50 *** Zuu has quit IRC 21:58:02 <PeterT> !password 21:58:09 <PeterT> is there a password? 21:58:18 <fonsinchen> it's "coop" 21:58:30 <PeterT> Ok 21:58:44 <PeterT> I'm adding that to ottdau 21:59:07 <PeterT> thanks 21:59:14 <Tycoon> *** Birger joined the game 22:00:44 <Tycoon> *** Birger has left the game (leaving) 22:01:30 <Tycoon> *** Peter joined the game 22:01:56 <Tycoon> <Peter> mah. 22:02:04 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> what are you trying to find outß 22:02:12 <Tycoon> <Peter> Just checking the commands 22:02:22 <Tycoon> *** Peter has joined company #1 22:02:32 <Tycoon> <Peter> fonsinchen: I was talking about a server password 22:02:34 <Tycoon> <Peter> not company password ;-) 22:03:00 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I didn't know 22:03:16 <Tycoon> * fonsinchen needs food 22:03:22 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has joined spectators 22:03:26 <Tycoon> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 22:03:26 <Tycoon> *** Game paused (number of players) 22:03:26 <Tycoon> * planetm4ker needs sleep 22:03:38 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> have a good night folks 22:03:40 <Tycoon> *** planetm4ker has left the game (leaving) 22:03:42 <PeterT> bye planetmaker 22:10:01 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 22:11:28 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.dev 22:11:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Chris_Booth 22:34:09 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has left the game (leaving) 22:42:08 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 22:44:03 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:00:16 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC