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Log for #openttdcoop.dev on 20th May 2010:
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00:21:46  <Razaekel> something's messed up with the chimeras
00:22:03  <Razaekel> in depot, they claim a running cost of about 3000 per year
00:22:14  <Razaekel> but in reality, it's more like 300,000
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18:08:14  <NukeBuster> bah, newgrf error
18:08:52  <NukeBuster> AT12 information issues
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18:13:55  <fonsinchen> !players
18:13:58  <Tycoon> fonsinchen: Client 55 (Dark Blue) is NukeBuster, in company 9 (Orléans Transport)
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18:15:58  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> annoying grf error ...
18:16:52  <NukeBuster> is there anyway to upgrade wagons without having todo it manually
18:17:22  <fonsinchen> yes, you can switch between wagons and engines in the autoreplace GUI
18:17:30  <fonsinchen> lower left, I think
18:17:54  <Tycoon> <NukeBuster> ah, nice thank you :)
18:18:14  <Tycoon> <NukeBuster> now all we need is to be able to upgrade a depot with trains in it and auto replace them :)
18:21:08  <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has started a new company (#4)
18:25:58  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> it does actuall load oil ... :)
18:26:32  <Tycoon> <NukeBuster> so, can i auto refit vehicles aswell?
18:26:56  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I don't think so.
18:27:10  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> You give them a shared refit order, though
18:31:16  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> you should tell those AT12s at chalons west to "load any cargo"
18:31:26  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> instead of "load all cargo"
18:31:30  <Tycoon> <NukeBuster> argh, more issues
18:32:02  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> as the AT12 loads oil :) You can see that at Angers Heights
18:33:56  <Tycoon> <NukeBuster> you can't refit it :(
18:34:03  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> no
18:34:38  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> the AT12 is sort of strange
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19:46:14  <NukeBuster> your oil train has 0 profit...
19:46:26  <NukeBuster> it just delivered a full train of oil
19:46:33  <NukeBuster> it just disappears
19:47:08  <fonsinchen> mind the signal
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20:34:01  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> something seems to be wrong with the order determinism detection
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20:35:09  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> oh, now it works ...
20:35:19  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> what?
20:35:29  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> the trick at nice heights
20:35:35  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> when did you build that?
20:35:42  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> i think it was because of the funny orders
20:35:48  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> last night
20:36:10  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> stations are so damn small
20:36:13  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> when did you introduce the conditional order?
20:36:19  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> long before that
20:36:37  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> did it work before with the conditional order?
20:36:43  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> no
20:36:57  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> conditional orders plays silly buggers with cargodist
20:36:57  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> so the determinism detection was flawed
20:37:15  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> certain conditional orders can be detected as deterministic
20:37:27  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> especially those that are actually unconditional
20:37:30  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> check the orders aat cannes mines
20:37:52  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> cargodist has trouble figuring out that the stuff is supposed to go to nice heights
20:38:14  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> it wants to go to chalons
20:38:24  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> yea, but i dont want it to go to chalons
20:38:54  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> you have to wait a little
20:39:25  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> see
20:39:49  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> ok
20:40:31  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> the interesting question is if it will transfer
20:44:38  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> ouch
20:44:48  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> ?
20:44:52  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> it doesn't understand the unconditional conditional order
20:45:02  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> train 97 didn't transfer
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20:55:05  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I think your copper setup doesn't do what you think it does ;)
20:55:23  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> what do you think i think it does?
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20:55:53  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> it routes copper from aubusson heights via cannes to chalons transfer
20:56:24  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> where's cannes?
20:56:32  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> cannes mines
20:56:41  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> wtf
20:56:48  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> the station with the unconditional conditional orders
20:57:10  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> the routing algorithm is quite smart
20:57:25  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> so copper goes from aubusson heights to cnanes mines to chalons?
20:57:33  <fonsinchen> yes
20:57:40  <fonsinchen> and that's expected
20:58:01  <fonsinchen> the demand for copper from aubusson at chalons and nice is determined before the routing
20:58:20  <fonsinchen> the routing simply carries out that decision and will do so as good as it can.
20:58:21  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> i dont see why it has to go to cannes mines first
20:58:27  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> oh
20:58:34  <fonsinchen> because there is no direct connection
20:58:39  <fonsinchen> or a too narrow one
20:58:43  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> it'll fix that when im done adjusting orders
20:59:10  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> there are no trains from cannes mines to chalons
20:59:25  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> you meant cannes heights?
20:59:39  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> there are no trains from nice to cannes heights
20:59:53  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> no, cannes mines
21:00:03  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> no trains from cannes mines to chalons
21:00:09  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> those all go to nice
21:00:11  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> 442 tonnes from aubusson heights
21:00:24  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> weird
21:00:31  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> but no trains
21:00:34  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> well there seems to be some leftover capacity then
21:00:40  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> those will get removed once link graph updates
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21:02:13  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> i wish station spread was bigger
21:02:35  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> 12, isn't it. If it was bigger the slopes would be pointless
21:02:42  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> yea, 12
21:02:56  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> slopes are longer than 12, on average
21:03:34  <fonsinchen> on average
21:04:46  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> it'd be nice to get wagon speed limits turned off too
21:05:00  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> it's 2064, why are trains still limited to 104km?
21:05:06  <Tycoon> <Razaekel> er, 104km/hr
21:05:29  <Ammler> !server_status
21:05:29  <Tycoon> Ammler:  23:05pm  up 43 days  6:40,  2 users,  load average: 0.78, 0.72, 0.66
21:05:30  <Tycoon> Ammler: Cpu(s):  3.1% us,  0.7% sy,  0.5% ni, 95.5% id,  0.2% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
21:05:30  <Tycoon> Ammler: child process exited abnormally
21:07:59  <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> it's sort of bad that we can't reproduce the desync
21:10:31  <Ammler> !server_status
21:10:31  <Tycoon> Ammler:  23:10pm  up 43 days  6:45,  2 users,  load average: 0.86, 0.75, 0.68
21:10:32  <Tycoon> Ammler: Cpu(s):  3.1% us,  0.7% sy,  0.5% ni, 95.5% id,  0.2% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
21:10:32  <Tycoon> Ammler: 21841 ottdc     16   0  291m  31m 4480 S   37  1.5 251:20.73 ./openttd -c opentt
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21:42:21  <Razaekel> !players
21:42:24  <Tycoon> Razaekel: Client 57 is fonsinchen, a spectator
21:42:24  <Tycoon> Razaekel: Client 63 (Red) is Razaekel, in company 1 (coop)
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21:42:41  <Razaekel> ammler, think you could disable wagon speed limits?
21:43:49  <Ammler> Razaekel: I guess, not possible on running game
21:44:00  <Ammler> !rcon list_settings wagon
21:44:00  <Tycoon> Ammler: All settings with their current value:
21:44:00  <Tycoon> Ammler: vehicle.wagon_speed_limits = on
21:44:00  <Tycoon> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value
21:44:11  <Ammler> !rcon set wagon_speed_limits 0
21:44:11  <Tycoon> Ammler: ERROR: This command/variable is not available during network games.
21:44:17  <Ammler> Razaekel: ^
22:00:11  <fonsinchen> no luck finding the desync today
22:00:17  <fonsinchen> good night
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22:01:37  <Razaekel> :-/
22:02:14  <Ammler> fonsinchen: isn't that good? :-)
22:02:35  <Ammler> or was there a desync but you don't know why?
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22:37:30  <Razaekel> the second
22:37:42  <Razaekel> two days ago, it desynched
22:37:44  <Razaekel> or 3
22:37:47  <Razaekel> i dont remember
22:38:00  <Razaekel> but it hasn't since then, so this is going to be a hard bug to find
22:44:14  <Ammler> oh ok, bad luck then
22:44:29  <Ammler> I wouldn't spent too much time in a single desync
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