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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 22nd May 2009:
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05:08:07  <planetmaker> [07:03]	<Ammler>	[00:36:27] and it doesn't refresh anymore, when you push on the repo <-- why that?
05:11:19  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - Revision 118: Add Chicago Double to language files and general clean up therein (planetmaker) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/118
05:11:20  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - Revision 119: Change: clean up a bit after make_2cc.sh (planetmaker) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/119
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06:05:19  <Brot> [DevZone] OTTDBash - Revision 712: Update client_patches to r16363: (planetmaker) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ottdbash/repository/revisions/712
06:05:20  <Webster> Latest update from trac: Revision 712: Update client_patches to r16363: compile_mac.diff pw_arguments.diff ... <http://trac.openttdcoop.org/changeset/712/>
07:07:50  *** ChanServ changes topic to "Talk about things hosted and developed on http://dev.openttdcoop.org"
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08:01:17  <Ammler> @rss announce --remove trac
08:01:17  <Webster> Ammler: The operation succeeded.
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11:12:55  <Ammler> http://redmine.ammler.ch/projects/2cctrainset <-- clone url is wrong
11:47:37  <planetmaker> yes, I realized, Ammler
11:47:50  <planetmaker> what URL can people w/o ssh access use to checkout our repositories?
11:49:03  <Ammler> http://redmine.ammler.ch/projects/home/wiki/Mercurial
11:49:18  <Ammler> hmm, maybe we should make a Guide
11:49:25  <Ammler> and link it from 1st page
11:49:31  <planetmaker> yes :)
11:49:44  <planetmaker> or linking that page on the first :)
11:50:31  <Ammler> http://redmine.ammler.ch/projects/home/wiki/VCS
12:05:58  <Ammler> hmm, how again did I run trail from remote?
12:06:23  <planetmaker> trail? never heard that in a non-trecking context :P
12:06:41  <Ammler> tail
12:06:54  <planetmaker> cat blub | tail
12:06:58  <Ammler> mäh
12:07:11  <planetmaker> sorry, I don't understand what your issue is.
12:21:31  <Ammler> planetmaker: I did once tail -f the logfile of the ps
12:26:02  <planetmaker> right
12:26:14  <Ammler> thanks :P
12:32:14  <planetmaker> :P
13:31:17  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - Bug #72: check Portuguese translation for updates (planetmaker) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/72
13:52:17  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - Revision 120: Change: add translators to credits sections of readme files (planetmaker) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/120
15:10:18  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - Bug #72 (Closed): check Portuguese translation for updates (planetmaker) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/72#change-149
15:19:55  *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone
15:21:22  <DJNekkid> @op
15:21:31  <DJNekkid> @whoami
15:21:31  <Webster> DJNekkid: I don't recognize you.
15:22:01  <planetmaker> DJNekkid, Webster also isn't op'ed ;)
15:22:04  <planetmaker> and hello :)
15:22:15  <planetmaker> @user list
15:22:15  <Webster> planetmaker: Ammler, KenjiE20, planetmaker, thraxian, tneo, and XeryusTC
15:22:22  <planetmaker> DJNekkid, you need to register
15:22:31  <DJNekkid> i thought i am
15:22:35  <planetmaker> It's a new bot
15:22:36  <DJNekkid> atleast with nickserv
15:22:44  <planetmaker> yes. The bot is not nickserv :)
15:23:07  <planetmaker> it's coop's bot we drag everywhere we go because we're lazy
15:23:08  <Ammler> DJNekkid: you can get op with chanserv too
15:23:21  <Ammler>  /msg chanserv op #openttdcoop.devzone
15:23:22  <planetmaker> and people like me cannot remember simple IRC commands e.g. on how to op myself :P
15:23:36  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o planetmaker
15:23:38  <planetmaker> ah :)
15:23:44  *** planetmaker sets mode: +o Webster
15:24:05  <Ammler> seems like I have the most stable bouncer ;-)
15:24:16  <planetmaker> :)
15:24:32  <Ammler> @deop
15:24:32  *** Webster sets mode: -o Ammler
15:24:32  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DJNekkid
15:24:36  <Ammler> hehe
15:24:43  <planetmaker> hehe. SmatZ just kicked out all oldpools from OpenTTD :)
15:25:48  <DJNekkid> now how was that "on connect" command in the mirc scripts again...
15:27:06  <Ammler> deinstall mirc -> install xchat :-)
15:27:16  <Ammler> or Chatzilla, if you use Firefox
15:27:21  <DJNekkid> i use chrome
15:27:40  <Ammler> is that compatible to FF Addons?
15:27:43  <DJNekkid> nope
15:28:07  <tneo> you shouldn't use chrome :P
15:28:11  <tneo> opera!
15:28:14  <tneo> ;-)
15:28:16  <Ammler> :-)
15:28:24  <planetmaker> one night at the opera!
15:29:59  * tneo = away cu all tomorrow again
15:30:07  <planetmaker> ciao tneo
15:42:26  <Ammler> again :-(
15:42:34  <DJNekkid> again what?
15:44:30  <planetmaker> probably the "see you after the weekend" ;)
15:44:51  <planetmaker> @user list
15:44:51  <Webster> planetmaker: Ammler, KenjiE20, planetmaker, thraxian, tneo, and XeryusTC
15:44:53  <DJNekkid> hehe
15:45:25  <Ammler> we have to see tneo again
15:45:48  <planetmaker> oh no!!!
15:46:09  <Ammler> yeah :-(
15:46:16  <planetmaker> well. I never saw him... :)
15:46:21  <Ammler> :-D
15:46:32  <planetmaker> maybe it's a ghost...? de ghost?
15:46:36  * planetmaker hides
15:46:38  <Ammler> I really like my IRC smilies
15:46:51  <DJNekkid> any new stuff added to the 2cc set btw?
15:47:01  <planetmaker> I made two or three commits, yes
15:47:07  <planetmaker> but nothing major
15:47:15  <planetmaker> well. I added translators to the credits
15:48:02  <planetmaker> you might check whether the html version of the readme works then as intended.
15:49:22  <DJNekkid> seems so
15:49:34  <planetmaker> also the flag icons?
15:49:44  <DJNekkid> yup
15:49:50  <DJNekkid> my god, i just love myself :p
15:49:58  <planetmaker> nice. Because I just made Portuguese up :)
15:50:43  <DJNekkid> i've done some more work on the dutchset
15:50:51  <DJNekkid> and it works pretty much like a charm
15:51:30  <planetmaker> :)
15:54:53  <Ammler> DJNekkid: commit, I like to see, if my new "Hook" works
15:55:03  <planetmaker> tsk
15:55:26  <planetmaker> I could commit a change to the linux make script. Deleting intermediate files after building the grf
15:55:28  <Ammler> :P
15:55:30  <planetmaker> What do you say, Ammler?
15:55:52  <Ammler> well
15:56:04  <Ammler> if you don't need the intermediate files, why do you generate them?
15:56:16  <Ammler> ">>" is your friend ;-)
15:56:17  <DJNekkid> Ammler: commit what?
15:56:25  <Ammler> DJNekkid: something :P
15:56:28  <planetmaker> +grfcodec -e -p 2 2ccdj.grf | tee grfcodec.log
15:56:28  <planetmaker> +
15:56:28  <planetmaker> +rm sprites/nfo/??.nfo > /dev/null
15:56:28  <planetmaker> +rm sprites/nfo/strings.nfo > /dev/null
15:56:28  <planetmaker> +rm sprites/nfo/*/*.orig > /dev/null
15:56:29  <planetmaker> +rm sprites/nfo/*.orig > /dev/null
15:56:49  <DJNekkid> 2cc stuff or dutchset stuff?
15:56:50  <planetmaker> Ammler, you're so right :)
15:56:59  <Ammler> DJNekkid: doesn't matter
15:57:02  <planetmaker> DJNekkid, whatever you like :P
15:57:08  <Ammler> the "hook" works for all hg repos
15:57:13  <DJNekkid> give me a few minutes :)
15:57:14  <Ammler> should*
15:57:35  <Ammler> I disabled the cronjob which pulled every few minutes
15:57:55  <DJNekkid> i just need to get the final feature going :)
15:58:03  <DJNekkid> or what the hell :)
15:58:18  <planetmaker> Ammler, the problem is then that the sorting has to be done explicitly again in the make script.
15:58:22  <planetmaker> But I guess that doesn't hurt
15:58:24  <Ammler> btw. you should create a ticket for 2cc 1.0
15:58:32  <planetmaker> well... it does...
15:58:38  <planetmaker> with header and regsel.
15:58:50  <planetmaker> update version? yes!
15:59:05  <DJNekkid> regsel.nfo could be renamed btw
15:59:06  <Ammler> planetmaker: like I proposed at beginning, also directories for those
15:59:12  <DJNekkid> to sortplist or something
15:59:33  <DJNekkid> commited stuff on the dutchset btw
15:59:44  <planetmaker> Ammler, and then like cat ./*/*.nfo > 2cc.grf?
16:00:50  <Ammler> nfo, yes :-)
16:01:16  <Brot> [DevZone] Train Set - Revision 1: Initial work on the (V)IRM (DJ Nekkid) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrainset/repository/revisions/1
16:01:32  <planetmaker> he. yes :P
16:01:45  <Ammler> hyipiii
16:02:25  <planetmaker> hm... with "Train Set" it's IMO badly named
16:02:32  <planetmaker> same with "Station Set"
16:02:38  <Ammler> dj, why is the file called "2cc*dj*.grf"?
16:02:50  <Ammler> planetmaker: ineed
16:02:53  <Ammler> d
16:03:19  <planetmaker> Ammler, for the same reason I have here a 2ccdj_ivb.grf :P
16:03:24  <planetmaker> and then it was handed out...
16:03:30  <planetmaker> I guess.
16:03:54  <Ammler> I vote for "2cc.grf" for the final release
16:04:10  <planetmaker> uhm... can we rename it?
16:04:16  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - Bug #73: Adjust version info (planetmaker) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/73
16:04:17  <planetmaker> I think that's bad practise.
16:04:20  <Ammler> why not?
16:04:31  <Ammler> yes, it is.
16:04:36  <planetmaker> for savegames. Compatibility
16:04:44  <Ammler> that is why I propose to do it before the first release
16:05:06  <planetmaker> hm... The 2cc set is spread out so much that I wouldn't like to change it.
16:05:15  <Ammler> planetmaker: the only compatibilty issue is with cfg presets
16:05:35  <Ammler> openttd works with the ID and md5sum
16:05:40  <planetmaker> hm. is it? Not with older saves which load...
16:05:47  <planetmaker> well. Then we could do that.
16:05:56  <planetmaker> but then we name it 2cctrainset.grf
16:05:57  <Ammler> not issue then
16:06:04  <Ammler> just check the grfpack
16:06:16  <Ammler> we have there ISR with many differen names
16:06:33  <planetmaker> well. I remember the JPSet :) you wondered quite a bit about the different names afair
16:07:04  <planetmaker> But yes, I'm fine with it
16:07:12  <Ammler> well, ok, it is up2DJ
16:07:18  <planetmaker> just 2cc.grf is... ambigeous
16:07:33  <Ammler> well, it is THE 2cc set :-)
16:09:37  <Ammler> well, anyway, if you keep it 2ccdj.grf, you have to keep it unitl the GRFID changes, means until 2.0 :-)
16:10:00  <Ammler> just don't do such silly things like Foobar.
16:10:21  <planetmaker> uhm?
16:10:26  <Ammler> or bananas :-)
16:10:33  <Ammler> that is so damn ugly.
16:10:39  <planetmaker> But exactly that's what we would do: change the name on an existing grf with the same grfID
16:10:48  <Ammler> he has version numbers in the filename
16:10:54  <planetmaker> what do FooBar and bananas do?
16:10:58  <planetmaker> oh
16:10:59  <Ammler> both
16:11:00  <planetmaker> that's bad
16:11:13  <planetmaker> well... though it also makes sense :)
16:11:20  <Ammler> well, bananas at least keeps the filename, just a ugly tar name
16:11:31  <planetmaker> which is fine IMO
16:11:55  <Ammler> of course not, but I shouldn't complain about bananas anymore, sorry.
16:12:12  <planetmaker> eh... :P
16:12:19  <Ammler> (just check your cfg with banans grf)
16:12:22  <planetmaker> well, but where do the tar names play a role?
16:12:31  <planetmaker> hm...
16:12:34  <Ammler> ^
16:13:23  <DJNekkid> sorry, were afk :)
16:13:43  <Ammler> the problem is, that both Truebrain and Foobar has no experience with newgrfs, they just see it from dev view.
16:13:57  <Ammler> they don't use them.
16:14:29  <planetmaker> well... the tar names seem fine?
16:14:36  <Ammler> "no playing experience"*
16:14:41  <DJNekkid> but whats wrong with 2ccdj? :)
16:14:49  <Ammler> the "dj"
16:14:53  <Ammler> :P
16:15:14  <DJNekkid> pb_av8.grf? :)
16:15:29  <Ammler> yep, that is from pikka
16:15:44  <Ammler> then you should rename to 2ccPurnoDanMacKDJ.grf
16:15:55  <DJNekkid> hehe
16:16:10  <Ammler> or is nars also called pb_nars?
16:16:11  <DJNekkid> i guess the reason in the first place were that it already were a 2cc.grf when i started to code
16:16:15  <DJNekkid> it is :)
16:16:18  <Ammler> mäh
16:16:35  <planetmaker> As I suspected ;)
16:16:41  <Ammler> don't get me wrong, btw. :-)
16:16:44  <DJNekkid> and then 2ccdj.grf were rather easy to sort in the p-list
16:16:46  <Ammler> you earn the credit
16:16:55  <DJNekkid> it's not the credit :)
16:16:59  <DJNekkid> it just became that way
16:17:10  <DJNekkid> same as the dutchset grf is dutchdj.grf atm :)
16:17:27  <planetmaker> yeah... that's not released yet, is it?
16:17:30  <Ammler> I am just looking from the view of a admin
16:17:36  <DJNekkid> nope :)
16:17:48  <planetmaker> then it makes perfect sense to rather call it dutch_trainset.grf
16:17:49  <DJNekkid> but i guess we could just do 2cctrainset.grf :)
16:17:51  <Ammler> players and devs don't see the filename
16:18:04  <Ammler> but I have to handle them with the cfg
16:18:06  <planetmaker> actually... 2cc_trainset.grf :)
16:18:11  <planetmaker> looks IMO better :)
16:18:27  <Ammler> pm like the _
16:18:32  <planetmaker> yes.
16:18:40  <planetmaker> :)
16:18:53  <planetmaker> _ _ _ _ _ _ <-- some more, saving here for later :P
16:18:54  <Ammler> s*
16:19:44  <Ammler> DJNekkid: the time of the 8chars file names is gone
16:20:18  <Ammler> so we could make it longer
16:20:35  <Ammler> well, nvm.
16:20:49  <DJNekkid> 2cc train set .grf :)
16:20:53  <planetmaker> well. There's no need to make it that long that it breaks multi-file archives for old tar versions ;)
16:21:09  <planetmaker> no spaces, though, please :)
16:21:13  <planetmaker> they're evil
16:21:14  <DJNekkid> bah!
16:21:16  <Ammler> I guess, we leave it 2ccdj.grf for version 1
16:21:22  <DJNekkid> 2cc%20train%20trainset :)
16:21:28  <DJNekkid> 2cc%20train%20set :)
16:21:31  <planetmaker> meh... :S
16:21:58  <Ammler> I just wanted to commit my thoughts about :-)
16:22:08  <DJNekkid> i ... never get to choose fun filenames! *bah* :p
16:22:11  <planetmaker> yes. Typing something like 2cc\ offline.bat only in order to edit it already hurts.
16:23:14  <planetmaker> anyway. I'm off for a bit.
16:23:35  <DJNekkid> rename it then :)
16:23:37  <DJNekkid> i dont mind :9
16:23:58  <DJNekkid> but ... we _could_ probably release tonight...
16:24:12  <planetmaker> well... I need to get some food before that :)
16:24:17  <planetmaker> but yes, I think we can :)
16:24:20  <DJNekkid> hehe...
16:24:26  <Ammler> well, it might really be better to keep the well known name, sorry. :-)
16:24:36  <Ammler> was a bad topic, I started :P
16:24:37  <planetmaker> but without food I won't be able to enjoy it afterwards. And my bread is empty...
16:24:50  <DJNekkid>  bike down to BK :)
16:25:11  <planetmaker> whatever BK is, but yes, something like that is what I'm going to do.
16:25:12  <Ammler> planetmaker: did you use the new language check script?
16:25:17  <DJNekkid> btw, how old ar eu guys?
16:25:26  <planetmaker> 0x20
16:25:33  <Ammler> hehe
16:25:44  <planetmaker> nearly a teen :P
16:25:54  <DJNekkid> a teen in hex?
16:26:12  <Ammler> 100000
16:26:53  <planetmaker> sure you didn't mis-type, Ammler?
16:26:58  <planetmaker> 10000?
16:27:02  <Ammler> planetmaker: no :-)
16:27:06  <Ammler> I didn't count them
16:27:11  <Ammler> just guessed
16:27:29  <Ammler> 100000
16:27:48  <planetmaker> 100000b = 0x20h = 40o ;)
16:27:56  <planetmaker> no
16:28:02  <planetmaker> 100000b = 0x40h = 80o ;)
16:28:18  <Ammler> :-)
16:28:24  * DJNekkid lost you guys already
16:28:45  <Ammler> 2^6
16:28:48  <planetmaker> DJNekkid, just different bases. b = binary, h=hex, o=octal (base 8)
16:28:51  <Ammler> @calc 2**6
16:28:51  <Webster> Ammler: 64
16:29:11  <Ammler> no, I typed it right, it has 5
16:29:15  <planetmaker> Ammler, up to 2^10 I can tell you each power of two :)
16:30:15  <Ammler> but you weren't able to calc my little number :P
16:30:17  <planetmaker> uh? 2^6 = 64. And 100000 has 6 digits...
16:30:53  <planetmaker> But Ammler still has to confess his age :P
16:31:18  <planetmaker> @topic confessions taken daily between 18:30h and 19:30h CEST
16:31:18  <Webster> planetmaker: (topic [<channel>]) -- Returns the topic for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
16:31:33  <Ammler> @undo
16:31:33  *** Webster changes topic to "Talk about things hosted and developed on http://dev.openttdcoop.org"
16:31:40  <Ammler> hehe
16:31:46  <Ammler> @redo
16:31:46  *** Webster changes topic to "Talk about things hosted and developed on http://dev.openttdcoop.org"
16:31:50  *** planetmaker changes topic to "confessions taken daily between 18:30h and 19:30h CEST"
16:32:03  <planetmaker> :P
16:32:23  <DJNekkid> planetmaker? you were 20 or 32?
16:32:28  <Ammler> hehe
16:32:33  <DJNekkid> i just turned 28 btw
16:32:42  <Ammler> just means?
16:32:56  <Ammler> on your party?
16:33:01  <planetmaker> DJNekkid, 0x20 not 20 :)
16:33:42  <DJNekkid> just ... less then 1/12year ago :p
16:33:54  <planetmaker> haha :) so belated all the best :)
16:34:42  <Ammler> well, I could fetch your password, you might have used your birthday as ;-)
16:34:49  <planetmaker> I'm quite confident that Ammler is a wonderful average person of those who talk here :P
16:35:27  <DJNekkid> hehe...
16:35:35  <DJNekkid> im guessing an old nerd! :p
16:35:48  <DJNekkid> no wait ... we are all in that booth :D
16:36:12  <Ammler> my userpage is verboxe
16:36:20  <Ammler> s
16:36:21  <planetmaker> no no. We're not in booth. I strongly object
16:36:44  <DJNekkid> just nerds?
16:36:53  <Ammler> just old :P
16:37:01  <planetmaker> maybe. either, or or both :P
16:37:51  <planetmaker> he... I'm the tt-forums tycoon, eh? :)
16:39:08  <Ammler> is there a command to remove the working copy but keep the repo?
16:39:22  <Ammler> or shall I just clone it?
16:39:27  <planetmaker> where? how?
16:39:29  <planetmaker> what?
16:39:32  <Ammler> :-)
16:39:47  <planetmaker> you mean hg revert --all
16:39:48  <Ammler> I liked to write something else
16:39:48  <planetmaker> ?
16:40:00  <Ammler> but then, it was a bit...
16:40:21  <Ammler> and I served around tt-forums and saw your post counter
16:40:41  <Ammler> you are around for maybe a year?
16:41:09  <Ammler> XeryusTC: already complained about ;-)
16:41:15  <planetmaker> well. short of two, I think
16:41:27  <planetmaker> or 1 1/2 or so
16:41:37  <XeryusTC> tssk
16:41:42  <planetmaker> haha :)
16:41:45  <XeryusTC> i bet you didnt have 5k posts in a years time :P
16:41:55  <planetmaker> XeryusTC, quality. Not quantity ;)
16:42:11  <XeryusTC> tssk
16:42:21  <XeryusTC> not more than 2/3 of my posts is crap :P
16:42:38  <planetmaker> :) I don't post (much) in the off-topic stuff
16:42:48  <Ammler> hehe
16:42:53  <XeryusTC> off-topic isnt always crap though :P
16:42:56  <Ammler> hello XeryusTC :-)
16:43:39  <Ammler> I am here for 3-4 years but have maybe 500
16:45:12  <planetmaker> :)
16:45:20  <planetmaker> , quality. Not quantity ;) ?
16:47:32  <planetmaker> anyway. Back in 1...2 hours
16:59:42  <planetmaker> damn it. I need to eat first :)
16:59:44  <planetmaker> on the way home, though I thought about the naming issue
16:59:45  <planetmaker> so far it was all a beta grf and therefor DJ's test versions.
16:59:47  <planetmaker> Now with an official 1.0 ahead we might go for an official name :)
16:59:55  <planetmaker> and most users get it via bananas anyway... so they don't care at all
17:01:23  <DJNekkid> yup :)
17:10:01  <planetmaker> will it be "2cc trainset 1.0" or "2cc trainset 1.0.0" ?
17:13:01  <planetmaker> or "2cc Train Set v. 1.0"
17:13:14  <planetmaker> or "2CC Train Set v. 1.0"
17:13:21  <planetmaker> concerning the title shown ingame?
17:13:25  <planetmaker> Ammler: DJNekkid ^^
17:14:01  <Ammler> only 1.0 and no "v."
17:14:13  <Ammler> my vote :-)
17:14:20  <DJNekkid> "2cc Trainset v1.0"
17:14:21  <planetmaker> 2cc or 2CC
17:14:30  <DJNekkid> lower case
17:14:43  <planetmaker> yeah... looks better.
17:14:46  <DJNekkid> btw, afk about 10 minutes, gonna drive my wife to a couple of friends
17:14:52  <DJNekkid> brb :)
17:14:53  <planetmaker> ok
17:14:56  <Ammler> OpenTTD v0.7.0 ?
17:15:13  <planetmaker> hm
17:16:13  <Ammler> no nice software uses prefix v
17:16:18  <planetmaker> :D
17:16:31  <planetmaker> we're not nice. We're evil. We seek world domination ;)
17:17:18  <Ammler> but I would add the date to the desc
17:17:21  <planetmaker> but you're right
17:17:33  <planetmaker> hm. I'd like to add rather the revision
17:17:37  <Ammler> and maybe the rev somewhere
17:17:51  <planetmaker> But date?
17:18:06  <Ammler> for the user
17:18:13  <Ammler> more helpful then a rev
17:18:28  <planetmaker> hm...
17:18:43  <planetmaker> yes, true
17:18:45  <Ammler> well, there should anyway never go another version out without rising the number :-)
17:18:54  <planetmaker> yes :)
17:19:09  <planetmaker> the first commit after the release has to be a change in the name.
17:19:14  <Ammler> we should right after release rise the number to 1.1 or 1.0.1
17:19:20  <planetmaker> :)
17:20:14  <Ammler> hmm, we could compile the official grfs on the server
17:20:26  <Ammler> so we can use bash
17:20:41  <planetmaker> hm... we do we really need to branch after 1.0 into 1.0.1 and 1.1 ?
17:20:50  <Ammler> with `hg parent --template..`
17:21:25  <planetmaker> :) Sounds like a good idea. For version 1.0.1 or so as it needs quite some commits concerning variables etc.
17:21:37  <planetmaker> And I still think DJ should use that, too ;)
17:21:42  <Ammler> I could make a hg-aftertag hook ;-)
17:22:15  <planetmaker> which modifies the version?
17:22:23  <Ammler> which makes the release
17:22:46  <planetmaker> how and when? when it gets commited?
17:23:25  <Ammler> http://hgbook.red-bean.com/read/handling-repository-events-with-hooks.html#sec:hook:tag
17:27:09  <planetmaker> hm... Well. would make sense IMO. And then upload to the files distributed by this project.
17:28:27  <Ammler> I'll push the first sed thing, ok?
17:29:28  <planetmaker> sure
17:30:24  <DJNekkid> back
17:30:52  <Ammler> it will have 2 examples {{VERSION}} and {{NAME}}
17:30:59  <Ammler> from header
17:31:07  <Ammler> we can use the same for the readme
17:33:18  <planetmaker> good :)
17:33:24  <planetmaker> Saw that at one of your grfs :)
17:33:38  <planetmaker> do you modify the project files or just the script?
17:38:10  <Ammler> DJNekkid: did you download the sed.exe?
17:38:35  <DJNekkid> yes
17:39:09  <Ammler> could you pull and try my script with your batch?
17:39:32  <DJNekkid> how would i do that?
17:41:00  <planetmaker> hm... English doesn't know a word like "Trainset"
17:41:17  <planetmaker> it's "train set"
17:41:18  <Ammler> space?
17:41:21  <planetmaker> yes
17:41:26  <planetmaker> 2cc Train Set 1.0 (22 May 2009)
17:41:36  <Ammler> well, it is a name, not a word
17:41:36  <planetmaker> as title?
17:41:47  <planetmaker> well...
17:41:50  <Ammler> :-)
17:41:59  <planetmaker> looks good with space, too IMO :)
17:42:15  <DJNekkid> just as good, with capital T + S
17:42:15  <Ammler> DJNekkid: just started windows
17:42:47  <planetmaker> 2cc Train Set 1.0 (22 May 2009) <-- like this. I'd commit it and then you can release it?
17:43:00  <DJNekkid> sure :)
17:43:04  <planetmaker> oki
17:43:26  <Ammler> DJNekkid: you would need to convert scripts/sed.sh to sed.bat
17:43:42  <Ammler> and add a line to the compiler script
17:44:48  <DJNekkid> as in rename?
17:45:41  <Ammler> no :-)
17:46:35  <Ammler> planetmaker: maybe, we could also make sed scripts for the translation :-)
17:47:12  <Ammler> s/Train/Zug/
17:49:37  <Ammler> how do you include a path to %path% in windows?
17:52:51  <DJNekkid> i have no idea?
17:53:15  <Ammler> found it
17:53:48  <Ammler> it is GUI button where you change virtual memory
17:53:56  <Ammler> ENV Vars
17:54:39  <Ammler> system properities -> VARS
17:54:41  <planetmaker> r122 is taged as Version1.0
17:54:57  <planetmaker> Ammler: that is my idea for the translations, yes.
17:55:02  <planetmaker> See my ticket concerning that
17:55:19  <Ammler> where are the rev commits
17:55:25  <planetmaker> ?
17:55:32  <Ammler> seems like my hook doesn't work
17:55:34  <planetmaker> they're merged in r124 :)
17:55:55  <Ammler> I mean the annoucments
17:56:20  <planetmaker> what did it expect? what kind of tag?
18:01:08  <planetmaker> I'm uploading the grf I produced for r122 to our repository
18:01:23  <planetmaker> e.g. the "official" 1.0 grf :)
18:02:18  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - Revision 124: Version 1.0 (planetmaker) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/124
18:02:19  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - Revision 125: Merge with Ammler's changes (planetmaker) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/125
18:02:20  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - 2cc_trainset.grf (planetmaker) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/52/2cc_trainset.grf
18:03:57  <Ammler> comments in windows bat are ";"?
18:03:59  <planetmaker> e.g. hg up -rVersion1.0 and you *should* get the same
18:04:46  <Ammler> -r isn't needed
18:04:56  <planetmaker> ok. Didn't know that :)
18:05:47  <Ammler> DJNekkid: now, you need to write a forum post about :-)
18:06:06  <planetmaker> :) Indeed. And upload it to bananas :)
18:06:24  <Ammler> and and
18:06:34  <planetmaker> hihihi :)
18:06:43  <Ammler> define the metro tracks as dependency there, btw.
18:07:06  <planetmaker> and I need to get going and buy the food which I postponed by eating Musli for dinner
18:07:23  <Ammler> oh, didn't you already?
18:08:16  <Ammler> what is ren in windows?
18:08:18  <Ammler> rename?
18:08:26  <planetmaker> yes. I finished now with eating. Now I need to buy the food for the weekend
18:08:28  <planetmaker> rename
18:11:30  <Ammler> btw, did you after fixing portuguese, copy the brazilian?
18:13:20  <Ammler> you didn't use the script anyway :-(
18:13:59  <planetmaker> uhm... no, I didn't touch the brazilian.
18:14:08  <Ammler> no need to touch it
18:14:25  <Ammler> well, also the other languages aren't equal
18:14:35  <planetmaker> uh?
18:14:39  <planetmaker> they should?
18:14:46  <Ammler> did you run check.sh?
18:14:48  <planetmaker> I checked actually their length and compared
18:15:35  <Ammler> it could be the script is wrong, either ;-)
18:15:35  <planetmaker> as I had to get them all to a common format manually and add strings I didn't run check.sh afterwards... I forgot :S
18:16:16  <Ammler> http://pastebin.ca/1431223
18:17:02  <DJNekkid> so ...
18:17:12  <DJNekkid> say when i shall pull and compile...
18:17:59  <planetmaker> script is probably right, Ammler
18:20:18  <Ammler> windows is silly :-)
18:30:13  <Ammler> can't you call a batch from batch?
18:37:01  <Ammler> menno
18:37:15  <Ammler> DJNekkid: did update his script :-(
18:48:43  <Ammler> my first and last windows commit
18:48:48  <Ammler> :-)
18:49:08  <Ammler> DJNekkid: could you check the script, if it works
18:52:54  <Ammler> hook doesn't work :-(
18:56:16  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - Revision 126: sed with windows too (Ammler) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/126
19:05:22  <planetmaker> back
19:08:46  <Ammler> Tortoise has a very nice tool to solve conflicts
19:09:10  <Ammler> Revision 125 is completely done with Windows GUI
19:09:22  <Ammler> 6*
19:11:21  <planetmaker> oh... not yet released on bananas?
19:11:26  <planetmaker> DJNekkid: ^?
19:12:00  <planetmaker> I thought I return and you two have told all the world already the great news...
19:12:39  <Ammler> wasn't sure, if you like to fix the language
19:12:52  <planetmaker> hm...
19:13:05  <planetmaker> ok, I'll have a look
19:13:10  <Ammler> :-)
19:14:35  <Ammler> if you see the output of the check, it has 50 Action4 but only 42 7f and 7 ff, so 1 is something else?
19:14:58  <Ammler> german seems fine
19:15:15  <Ammler> dutch looks like english
19:15:27  <planetmaker> well. I *did* look them through
19:15:50  <planetmaker> and compared languages line by line nearly
19:15:51  <planetmaker> so...
19:15:56  <Ammler> he
19:16:07  <Ammler> did you use Kompare?
19:17:51  <planetmaker> yes. The one I was born with :P
19:18:14  <planetmaker> No, I open both files, English and <language> and check for the amount of strings in each section.
19:18:23  <Ammler> another nice KDE App :-)
19:18:24  <planetmaker> if you have line numbers it's an easy and quick check
19:19:46  <planetmaker> I just checked Portuguese vs. English again. I find nothing wrong, though the script tells a different amount of action 04s
19:20:12  <planetmaker> and a different amount of translated strings.
19:22:18  <planetmaker> but the script seems fine...
19:22:27  <planetmaker> maybe one of the comment strings confuses it.
19:23:05  <Ammler> oh
19:23:17  <Ammler> it is easy possible you find somewhere else 04 00
19:23:41  <Ammler> there aren't so many Action 4
19:24:10  <Ammler> sometimes I think something and write only a part ot it ;-)
19:25:12  <planetmaker> it's possible to find e.g. other b6 :)
19:26:29  <planetmaker> yes and the language ID, too
19:26:44  <planetmaker> it's a simple number for German and Portuguese. And 02 isn't really uncommon :P
19:27:28  <planetmaker> well... it's looking for "00 $ID" and not $ID... hm...
19:32:15  <Ammler> yep
19:32:27  <Ammler> I thought about that :P
19:32:35  <Ammler> but it might still be possible :-)
19:35:31  <Ammler> many trains of 2cc are adajcent against each waggon, so they are harder to adjust than some dbset waggons
19:36:33  <DJNekkid> hi again all, i were afk again :)
19:36:41  <Ammler> :P
19:36:51  <DJNekkid> anything new?
19:36:56  <Ammler> DJNekkid: I tried to update your batch file with sed.exe
19:37:07  <Ammler> could you pull -u and try to compile
19:37:26  <DJNekkid> with the 2cc offline.bat ?
19:37:31  <Ammler> yep
19:37:36  <Ammler> check the change I did
19:37:50  <DJNekkid> i apparently need libintl3.dll
19:37:52  <Ammler> I guess, you will understand it very fast
19:37:55  <planetmaker> Well... whatever it is with the lang_script, I think we can release. But we should nevertheless check it out :)
19:38:19  <Ammler> hmm, did you install the full pack of sed?
19:38:27  <DJNekkid> probably not :)
19:38:47  <Ammler> • Complete package, except sources	 	Setup	  	2031421	 	 4 May 2009 	 	abe0d444c49a6f16fab49ab020d4fe92
19:39:05  <Ammler> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnuwin32/sed-4.2-setup.exe
19:39:42  <Ammler> pm, we change the translation to sed, so no need anymore :-)
19:40:01  <planetmaker> yes :)
19:40:08  <Ammler> if DJNekkid is able to use it, I really hope
19:40:13  <Ammler> it worked on my vm
19:40:34  <planetmaker> we should also replace the actual ID in the action 04s by $ID and $HID respectively
19:40:42  <Ammler> I just didn't have renum and codec for it, so I wasn't able to make a grf
19:40:51  <planetmaker> he...
19:41:01  <planetmaker> you could just DL the win binaries :)
19:41:02  <Ammler> pm
19:41:10  <planetmaker> or have  DJN mail them to you ;)
19:41:12  <Ammler> such things would need precompiler
19:41:15  <Ammler> or bash :-)
19:41:19  <planetmaker> :P
19:41:33  <Ammler> but we can sed everything
19:41:40  <DJNekkid> i _don't_ think it worked
19:41:43  <Ammler> {{ID}}
19:42:08  <DJNekkid> nope
19:42:15  <DJNekkid> 2cc_trainset.nfo is 0 bytes
19:42:18  <planetmaker> ^ that, exacly, Ammler, my idea.
19:42:27  <planetmaker> DJNekkid: that's very compact :P
19:42:33  <Ammler> yeah
19:42:41  <Ammler> I optimized your bat a bit :-)
19:42:46  <DJNekkid> np
19:42:50  <DJNekkid> but perhaps 2 much? ;9
19:42:54  <Ammler> hehe
19:43:01  <Ammler> again
19:43:08  <Ammler> you have now the complete back
19:43:19  <Ammler> maybe you could make the steps manual?
19:43:26  <Ammler> ly
19:43:50  <Ammler> I mean, checking the pauses
19:43:58  <Ammler> do you have a proper nfo.pre?
19:44:11  <Ammler> then the sed will be runned
19:44:18  <DJNekkid> and where would that file be?
19:44:19  <Ammler> and check again the nfo
19:44:25  <Ammler> in sprites
19:44:35  <Ammler> after the copying
19:45:11  <Ammler> copy /Y nfo\*.nfo 2cc_trainset.nfo.pre
19:45:26  <DJNekkid> first it compile all .nfo's into one
19:45:51  <DJNekkid> apparently into 2cc_trainset.nfo.pre
19:46:09  <Ammler> then
19:46:12  <Ammler> 
19:46:12  <DJNekkid> it seems like it cant find sed.exe
19:46:14  <Ammler> sed.exe -f ..\scripts\nfo.sed 2cc_trainset.nfo.pre > 2cc_trainset.nfo
19:46:21  <Ammler> did you set the path?
19:46:55  <Ammler> the path to sed, else you should add it
19:47:12  <DJNekkid> seems so :)
19:47:36  <Ammler> planetmaker: how are the "Umgebungsvariablen" called in english?
19:48:08  <planetmaker> environment variables?
19:51:02  <Ammler> DJNekkid: http://img.ammler.ch/?v=path.png
19:51:24  <Ammler> german, but you might see what I mean
19:51:29  <DJNekkid> yea
19:51:44  <DJNekkid> im on to something here btw, it seems like the bat-file is somewhat not working as intended
19:52:38  <Ammler> it worked here until renum
19:52:46  <planetmaker> hm... maybe I broke it with renaming the grf file?
19:52:47  <DJNekkid> here to
19:52:52  <DJNekkid> seems so planetmaker
19:53:06  <Ammler> planetmaker: that was very mean :P
19:53:10  <planetmaker> :P
19:53:26  <Ammler> wasn't easy to merge
19:53:40  <planetmaker> 2cc_trainset.nfo - a whopping 12 letters before the dot :P
19:53:47  <planetmaker> Ammler: same here. Same here
19:53:52  <Ammler> :-)
19:54:41  <DJNekkid> there!
19:54:41  <planetmaker> hehe. Booth is bossing around on .dev :P
19:54:51  <planetmaker> hm @ DJNekkid ?
19:55:21  <DJNekkid> now it works
19:56:16  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - Revision 127: someone fudged up the bat-file, now its working agian :) (DJNekkid) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/127
19:56:23  <planetmaker> 2cc_trainset.nfo.new.new.new <--- looool
19:57:15  <DJNekkid> that is what it turns into :)
19:58:25  <planetmaker> I just have renum re-use the original nfo file
19:58:30  <planetmaker> e.g. no new file :)
19:58:57  <DJNekkid> but ... what is it called in the newgrf list?
19:59:40  <Ammler> DJNekkid: grfcodec -e 2cc_trainset.grf
19:59:47  <planetmaker> 2cc Train Set 1.0  (22 May 2009)
19:59:50  <Ammler> grf is the key ;-)
20:00:02  <planetmaker> it's above the old ones here
20:00:07  <DJNekkid> bah
20:00:15  <DJNekkid> 2cc_trainset.grf is 0 bytes now
20:00:21  <planetmaker> meh :S
20:00:23  <Ammler> and the nfo?
20:00:47  <Ammler> and could you open it and check action 8
20:00:49  <DJNekkid> 533k
20:00:57  <planetmaker> sounds about right
20:01:02  <Ammler> that is the part, which is replaced
20:01:02  <planetmaker> is it numbered?
20:01:05  <DJNekkid>     1 * 238	 08 07 27 71 10 02 "2cc Trainset 1.0" 00 "Drawn by Purno, Snail, Wile E Coyote and DanMack\nCoded by DJ Nekkid, planetmaker and Ammler\n" 8E "Check the readme for parameters\nHowever, Parameter1 (Prices: 0 = default, 9 = Double, 8 = Half, 7 = 1/4th, 6 = 1/8th, etc" 00
20:01:21  <Ammler> nice, isn't :-)
20:01:25  <planetmaker> hm... Why does it say 2cc Trainset instead of 2cc Train Set ?
20:01:41  <Ammler> check scripts/nfo.sed
20:02:15  <Ammler> we might move that to an other folder, btw.
20:04:11  <DJNekkid> oki, i found the flaw
20:04:21  <planetmaker> ok, I pushed the proper release name
20:04:30  <planetmaker> e.g. changed sed.nfo
20:04:38  <planetmaker> no. nfo.sed :P
20:04:45  <DJNekkid> 2ccgrfcoded cant handle 2cc_trainset.nfo.new.nfo
20:04:47  <DJNekkid> it's too long
20:05:15  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - Revision 128: Fix: make the grf name proper English (planetmaker) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/128
20:05:50  <Ammler> DJNekkid: it is wrong anyway
20:06:03  <Ammler> grfcodec should have the final grf as argument
20:06:52  <Ammler> grfcodec.exe -e -p 2 2cc_trainset.grf
20:07:07  <planetmaker> yes
20:07:46  <Ammler> I am wondering, your command ever worked
20:08:44  <DJNekkid> sorry, i had to force a push
20:08:49  <DJNekkid> it would not merge
20:08:59  <planetmaker> :S
20:09:01  <DJNekkid> and, im an untrusted user!
20:09:06  <planetmaker> me, too
20:09:16  <planetmaker> since the last commit
20:09:47  <Ammler> he
20:10:20  <Ammler> what have you done?
20:11:08  <planetmaker> there were no conflicts.
20:11:17  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - Revision 129: fixed even more in the .bat file (DJNekkid) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/129
20:11:25  <planetmaker> remote: Not trusting file /home/ottdc/hg-repos/is2/.hg/hgrc from untrusted user ottdc, group ottdc
20:11:40  <planetmaker> dunno why it talks about is2, though...
20:11:57  <Ammler> oh
20:12:01  <Ammler> that is the hook
20:12:06  <planetmaker> :P
20:12:12  <Ammler> it works now :-)
20:12:15  <planetmaker> hehe.
20:12:20  <Ammler> hmm
20:12:33  <Ammler> I could pipe that to null
20:13:39  <planetmaker> haha :)
20:14:17  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - Revision 130: merge DJs stuff (planetmaker) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/130
20:15:53  <planetmaker> I think we should promise DJNekkid that we won't add to drastical changes then anymore to the build script :)
20:16:18  <DJNekkid> hehe
20:16:33  <planetmaker> well. I in your case would already be pissed :P
20:16:43  <DJNekkid> hehe
20:16:47  <Ammler> nah
20:17:07  <Ammler> was it that bad?
20:17:07  <DJNekkid> im used to (you) linux-guys already doing stuff above my head by now :p
20:17:12  <planetmaker> Ammler: we have a different relation to scripts :)
20:17:15  <Brot> [DevZone] Train Set - Revision 2: only cosmetic changes (p-list) left on the IRM (DJ Nekkid) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrainset/repository/revisions/2
20:17:46  <Ammler> DJNekkid:did you get an answer?
20:17:59  <DJNekkid> on what?
20:18:04  <Ammler> from the push
20:18:09  <DJNekkid> yes
20:18:19  <Ammler> still untrusted?
20:18:19  <DJNekkid> thangs for the push... blablabla
20:18:26  <Ammler> oh :-)
20:19:15  <Ammler> planetmaker: now some sed tickets?
20:19:51  <planetmaker> there's one with the languages
20:20:13  <planetmaker> actually I'd like the language check included in the make script
20:20:15  <Ammler> well, the one with change the ID?
20:20:39  <planetmaker> so I know when languages start to want attention :)
20:20:57  <Ammler> pm, well, that script becomes obsolete
20:21:20  <Ammler> the sed script is way easier
20:21:42  <planetmaker> well. Basically the ticket is about an aim. Not the way :)
20:21:54  <planetmaker> if sed is the way, it's fine with me.
20:22:16  <planetmaker> didn't I sed^Wsay that? ;)
20:24:21  <Ammler> I add a automatically push to bitbucket.org as backup, btw.
20:24:43  <planetmaker> haha :) good
20:25:05  <Ammler> the project data will be backuped to brians server once per day
20:25:43  <Ammler> the database is already 2 MB bzip2ed
20:26:10  <planetmaker> well. the grf is 650kB.
20:26:32  <Ammler> not in the db
20:26:35  <planetmaker> I bzip2ed the repo today, too. 2.7MB
20:26:45  <planetmaker> but with grf
20:26:57  <Ammler> attachements are separately
20:27:08  <DJNekkid> but didnt we agree updon "2cc Train Set 1.0" ?
20:27:18  <planetmaker> Yes we did
20:27:21  <Ammler> DJNekkid: isn't it?
20:27:22  <planetmaker> pull
20:27:30  <planetmaker> Ammler: you used a different name ;)
20:27:36  <DJNekkid> and btw
20:27:36  <Ammler> on my demo?
20:27:41  <DJNekkid> i think we should add a v1.0
20:27:45  <planetmaker> on your nfo.sed
20:27:49  <DJNekkid> as _most_ other sets have a v'
20:27:56  <Ammler> v is ugly, really.
20:28:11  <Ammler> OpenTTD has no V
20:28:31  <Ammler> does pikka add a v?
20:28:37  <DJNekkid> yes :p
20:28:54  <DJNekkid> MB uses a captial V actually :)
20:29:12  <planetmaker> Pikka sometimes does, sometimes not.
20:29:16  <Ammler> I don't like it in both ways
20:30:35  <planetmaker> DJNekkid: maybe you just upload the file I posted in our file section :) It's r122 and we include these build changes in 1.0
20:30:41  <planetmaker> err. 1.0
20:30:47  <planetmaker> 1.0.1
20:31:07  <planetmaker> but, admittedly, it has no "v"
20:31:30  <planetmaker> but personally I don't mind either way, with or without v
20:31:43  <DJNekkid> upload what, where?
20:32:41  <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/files <-- grf of the taged version 1.0
20:33:29  <Ammler> DJNekkid: I asked at #openttd :-)
20:33:36  <planetmaker> well :-x you should still be able to build it yourself...
20:34:52  <Ammler> DJNekkid: but you need to update to tag Version1.0
20:35:02  <DJNekkid> i did!
20:35:21  <Ammler> then you have again the broken batch
20:35:21  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - 2cc_trainset.grf (DJNekkid) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/53/2cc_trainset.grf
20:35:28  <Ammler> (from pm)
20:35:59  <Ammler> did you add the v?
20:36:12  <DJNekkid> i didnt add anything?
20:36:23  <Ammler> other md5sum
20:37:07  <planetmaker> *sigh*
20:37:27  <DJNekkid> is it the same rev?
20:37:29  <Ammler> f4742daa1b77ce3bbfe157f56970e3b5  2cc_trainset.grf
20:37:45  <planetmaker> what does hg st tell you?
20:37:57  <planetmaker> The file I uploaded is r122
20:37:58  <Ammler> pm, I get the same as dj
20:38:06  <planetmaker> hg up -r122 ?
20:38:16  <Ammler> no sorry
20:38:17  <planetmaker> or hg up Version1.0
20:38:19  <planetmaker> ?
20:38:19  <Ammler> same as you
20:39:11  <Ammler> hg parent tells you the version
20:39:44  <Ammler> and if you run hg parent, you should see the tag
20:39:49  <Ammler> tag:         Version1.0
20:40:11  <planetmaker> devera:~/ottd/grfdev/2cctrainset> hg parent
20:40:13  <planetmaker> changeset:   122:b849e602a638
20:40:14  <planetmaker> tag:         Version1.0
20:40:16  <planetmaker> user:        planetmaker
20:40:17  <planetmaker> date:        Fri May 22 19:48:56 2009 +0200
20:40:19  <planetmaker> summary:     Release: Version 1.0 of the 2cc train set
20:40:34  <Ammler> well, I meant DJNekkid :-)
20:41:12  <DJNekkid> r130
20:41:27  <Ammler> did you run "hg up Version1.0"
20:41:39  <DJNekkid> now i did
20:41:51  <Ammler> then you have a broken batch, I fear
20:42:21  <DJNekkid> again?
20:42:35  <Ammler> you went back in the history
20:42:45  <Ammler> to the change of pm
20:42:56  <Ammler> Timetravelling ;-)
20:42:58  <DJNekkid> why would i do this?
20:43:10  <planetmaker> Ammler: we just move the tag...
20:43:16  <planetmaker> You know how to do that :)
20:43:24  <planetmaker> I know it :)
20:43:25  <Ammler> because the release of 1.0 was already past
20:43:39  <planetmaker> well... yes
20:43:52  <Ammler> planetmaker: :-)
20:43:53  <planetmaker> and no.
20:43:56  <DJNekkid> now im confused
20:43:59  <Ammler> just edit .hgtags
20:44:05  <planetmaker> DJNekkid: it's a version control system :)
20:44:18  <planetmaker> if you update to an old version - everything is in the state is was then
20:44:29  <Ammler> DJNekkid: check you batch file
20:44:33  <Ammler> it is broken,
20:44:35  <Ammler> hg up
20:44:37  <planetmaker> and the state 1.0 is such that obviously you cannot compile the grf :S
20:44:41  <Ammler> it is fine again
20:44:44  <planetmaker> ^^
20:44:55  <Ammler> hg up Version1.0, it is broken again ;-)
20:45:07  <DJNekkid> so ...
20:45:10  <planetmaker> so we have two possibilities: we move the tag to something which you can also compile
20:45:30  <planetmaker> or you just grab the grf I posted which is of the revision which has the tag
20:45:33  <planetmaker> or, option 3:
20:45:34  <Ammler> pm, theoretically, it should result in the same grf
20:45:49  <planetmaker> hg up -r122 and manually then edit your bat file so it makes the script.
20:45:52  <Ammler> we just make script changes
20:46:01  <planetmaker> Ammler: no...
20:46:05  <planetmaker> name changes
20:46:20  <Ammler> well, you have of course to fis nfo.sed
20:46:22  <planetmaker> you used a different with your sed than me
20:46:24  <Ammler> fixç
20:46:27  <Ammler> fix*
20:46:58  <Ammler> that is what I mean with fix
20:47:29  <planetmaker> hm, seems like I commited it to the correct string
20:48:48  <planetmaker> hm
20:48:52  <DJNekkid> why cant we just use rev 130 to v.1.0?
20:49:11  <Ammler> DJNekkid: we do :-)
20:49:24  <planetmaker> because I thought I commited with your consent v1.0 back then
20:49:28  <Ammler> but you should edit scripts/sed.nfo
20:49:37  <planetmaker> Ammler: ?
20:49:38  <DJNekkid> with rev 130?
20:49:48  <planetmaker> it's correct
20:50:38  <planetmaker> so, does r130 now work for you, DJNekkid ?
20:50:44  <DJNekkid> yes
20:50:45  <DJNekkid> :)
20:51:00  <planetmaker> good :)
20:51:04  <Ammler> why don't I get the same md5sum?
20:51:12  <planetmaker> i don't get it either
20:51:26  <planetmaker> f7fd6442f03121bb5662ca368f631ac2  2cc_trainset.grf
20:51:34  <Ammler> yes, same here
20:51:39  <Ammler> DJNekkid: ?
20:52:04  <DJNekkid> 22-05-2009 22:51	668.8 KB	0	9abe595cd86f8496d822ef793c251b71
20:52:12  <DJNekkid> probably because of that sad-thing :)
20:52:26  <Ammler> and you have the same rev as we?
20:52:46  <DJNekkid> 130? :)
20:52:59  <Ammler> hmm
20:53:06  <Ammler> but different childs
20:53:18  <Ammler> parents I mean
20:53:19  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - 2cc_trainset.grf (DJNekkid) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/54/2cc_trainset.grf
20:53:53  <planetmaker> hg st and hg diff show no mods?
20:53:58  <planetmaker> or additions?
20:54:13  <Ammler> DJNekkid: could you upload your renum.exe and grfcodec.exe?
20:54:24  <planetmaker> :)
20:54:33  <planetmaker> good idea
20:55:04  <DJNekkid> done
20:56:18  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - renum.exe (DJNekkid) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/55/renum.exe
20:56:19  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - grfcodec.exe (DJNekkid) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/56/grfcodec.exe
20:56:43  <planetmaker> and asked again: hg st shows no additional nfo files and hg diff is empty?
20:57:21  <planetmaker> and hg parent is changeset:   130:1fe5db61aa8f
20:57:40  <DJNekkid> hg diff is empty
20:58:06  <DJNekkid> shows strings.nfo in the nfo-folder
20:58:15  <planetmaker> that's ok
21:02:21  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - 2cc.grf (DJNekkid) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/57/2cc.grf
21:07:20  <Ammler> hmm
21:07:34  <Ammler> I have another md5sum
21:08:05  <Ammler> cd152e7b8a0e48312b71762b0278e3ad
21:08:17  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - 2cc_trainset.grf (Ammler) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/58/2cc_trainset.grf
21:08:34  <planetmaker> I see that. Or rather a 3rd...
21:08:36  <planetmaker> strange
21:09:20  <Ammler> DJNekkid: is renum -k needed in windows?
21:09:36  <planetmaker> I don't think
21:09:47  <planetmaker> that's what makes the new filename instead of overwriting
21:10:06  <planetmaker> but shouldn't change outcome
21:13:55  <Ammler> DJNekkid: you have wxp, too?
21:14:02  <DJNekkid> yes
21:14:05  <DJNekkid> sp3 afaik
21:14:17  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - 2cc_trainset.grf (Ammler) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/59/2cc_trainset.grf
21:15:56  <Ammler> same without -k
21:16:31  <Ammler> DJNekkid: 32bit?
21:16:40  <DJNekkid> 32 bits :)
21:16:54  <Ammler> that is sooo strange
21:18:53  <planetmaker> hm... test
21:19:15  <planetmaker> hg up -r40 && <make grf>. what md5sum do you guys get?
21:21:51  <planetmaker> 75f89062fcf6e1f781d80ceebdaddaca  2ccdj.grf
21:23:17  <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/48/red-wagons.PNG <-- does that belong to a ticket?
21:23:43  <Ammler> you can add attachments to ticket, too.
21:24:20  <Ammler> 079899d14ae12ed327cab1c642f0f8e0
21:24:34  <planetmaker> I know :)
21:24:52  <Ammler> pm, which rev did we make the check?
21:25:42  <DJNekkid> that file can just be deleted
21:25:43  <Ammler> way above r40
21:26:19  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - 2ccdj.grf (Ammler) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/60/2ccdj.grf
21:26:24  <planetmaker> hm... didn't look. Felt like ~40 :)
21:26:41  <Ammler> min r66
21:26:51  <Ammler> like the tickets sais
21:27:09  <planetmaker> ah, ok
21:27:26  <planetmaker> sorry. didn't look. Just install Windows here :)
21:27:41  <planetmaker> or rather properly configer the VM
21:30:04  <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/90
21:30:05  <planetmaker> wow. That's nice. Windows programmes behave like Mac programmes :) Kinda moved out of the VM :)
21:33:33  <Ammler> VirtualBox?
21:33:57  <planetmaker> Parallels Desktop and XP installed on it
21:34:12  <Ammler> is that free?
21:34:23  <planetmaker> 70€
21:34:37  <Ammler> Virtualbox does that too, btw. :-)
21:34:55  <planetmaker> though... there's probably some free less-powerful equivalent
21:35:20  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - 2cc_trainset.grf (Ammler) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/61/2cc_trainset.grf
21:35:28  <Ammler> virtualbox has also osx version
21:35:36  <planetmaker> I think there are many warnings more than I got on linu
21:35:53  <planetmaker> with the r130 and 2cc offline.bat
21:36:07  <DJNekkid> oh?
21:36:21  <planetmaker> and more severe ones.
21:36:37  <planetmaker> I need to find out how to actually have the window not close when done :)
21:37:02  <Ammler> remove exit
21:37:12  <Ammler> but there are some pauses
21:37:33  <Ammler> I am done,
21:37:48  <Ammler> cu later
21:37:53  <planetmaker> And: it's not working without fixes for German XP :)
21:38:00  <planetmaker> cu, Ammler
21:38:02  <planetmaker> and good night
21:38:12  <planetmaker> sounds like a good thing, though
21:44:09  <planetmaker> well, DJNekkid if you look at the re-numbered nfo, you get many fatal errors there
21:44:25  <DJNekkid> i do? :)
21:44:28  <DJNekkid> why is that?
21:44:32  <planetmaker>  // Action3 //!!Fatal Error (42): Length does not match n-id and num-cid of 01 and 4C. (Expected 235 bytes)  1056 * 12	 03 00 01 \b*1100 01 FF A1 00 A0 00
21:44:40  <planetmaker> I don't know. Don't you?
21:44:45  <planetmaker> Do you have those, too?
21:44:48  <DJNekkid> yes
21:44:57  <planetmaker> ah. I don't have them on linux
21:45:05  <DJNekkid> because of "long" vehicle ID
21:45:34  <planetmaker> that one? I just posted? That's not long vehicle ID, I think
21:45:45  <DJNekkid> it is )
21:46:10  <DJNekkid> usually is byte 5 the number of different cargos to add
21:46:18  <DJNekkid> in this case does it think its too many
21:48:29  <planetmaker> hm... but it throws fatal errors.. at least it says so.
21:48:55  <DJNekkid> i've always had thoose, and never been able to remove them
21:49:01  <Ammler> we had that too with older renum versions
21:49:22  <planetmaker> hm. does regsel need to be last or may it be 2nd last before the strings?
21:51:12  <DJNekkid> 2nd lst is sufficient
21:51:22  <DJNekkid> i needs to be after all action 0's
21:52:27  <planetmaker> ok
21:53:59  <DJNekkid> do you know what it does btw?
21:55:40  <DJNekkid> hmm
21:55:46  <DJNekkid> i guess i need to crawl to the cross...
21:55:54  <planetmaker> you mean action 0? Yes
21:56:07  <DJNekkid> well, thoose action 0's :)
21:57:09  <planetmaker> hm. the fatal one is 03
21:57:24  <DJNekkid> yes...
21:57:26  <planetmaker> but ... let's do that another day. I' getting pretty incoherent...
21:57:41  <DJNekkid> hehe
21:59:13  <planetmaker> I also need to get accustomed to this VM... so. ..
21:59:27  <planetmaker> have a good night also from here :)
21:59:31  <DJNekkid> what is exactly the issue?
21:59:36  <DJNekkid> different md5?
21:59:41  <planetmaker> well. yes
21:59:55  <DJNekkid> are we sure our .nfo's are the same?
22:00:03  <DJNekkid> i mean
22:00:05  <DJNekkid> pre renumed
22:00:08  <planetmaker> doesn't matter too much. but, well, we aren't, I think
22:00:23  <planetmaker> I'll upload my linux one
22:00:50  <DJNekkid> 509509 byte
22:02:16  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - 2cc_trainset.nfo (DJNekkid) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/62/2cc_trainset.nfo
22:05:58  <planetmaker> 529276 byte
22:06:04  <planetmaker> hm
22:06:42  <planetmaker> anyway. a problem for tomorrow :)
22:07:13  <DJNekkid> then i apparently dont add about 20kb of code somewhere
22:07:42  <planetmaker> yeah...
22:07:56  <planetmaker> I add the nfo I have to our filelist maybe you find out
22:11:08  <planetmaker> uploaded
22:11:17  <planetmaker> good night :)
22:11:17  <DJNekkid> oki :)
22:11:17  <Brot> [DevZone] 2cc train set - 2cc_trainset.nfo (planetmaker) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/63/2cc_trainset.nfo
22:11:29  <DJNekkid> are u off to sleep now? or some plain surfing and stuff?
22:11:41  <planetmaker> I'm already sleeping
22:11:57  <DJNekkid> oki :)
22:12:02  <planetmaker> :)
22:12:27  <DJNekkid> in case u wanted to see how the IRM is turning out :)
22:13:16  <planetmaker> well. I'll stay connected. So, if you talk to me, I'll see it tomorrow :)
22:13:22  <planetmaker> it won't be lost :)
22:13:46  <DJNekkid> it wont :)
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22:50:15  <Brot> [DevZone] Dutch Train Set - Revision 3: IRM is done (DJ Nekkid) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrainset/repository/revisions/3
23:02:15  <Brot> [DevZone] Dutch Train Set - Revision 4: finished the mat64 (DJ Nekkid) - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrainset/repository/revisions/4
23:12:30  <Ammler> [00:13] <planetmaker> well. I'll stay connected. So, if you talk to me, I'll see it tomorrow
23:12:35  <Ammler> [00:15] <-- planetmaker has left this channel.
23:12:37  <Ammler> :-)
23:12:45  <DJNekkid> hehe
23:13:19  <Ammler> you didn't find the difference?
23:13:28  <DJNekkid> i didnt look yet
23:13:34  <Ammler> ah ok
23:13:39  <Ammler> well
23:13:40  <DJNekkid> as you might see :) ^^
23:13:46  <Ammler> not now :P
23:13:54  <Ammler> but I stay connected ;-)
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