Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 11th June 2009:
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01:33:27  <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 53M)
01:33:27  <Brot6> ... I don't know why but, suddenly, I want to discuss declining I.Q. LEVELS with a blue ribbon SENATE SUB-COMMITTEE!
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09:05:39  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Bug #164: GE Genesis with Express Wagon @ (by Ammler)
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13:50:16  <Ammler> FooBar_: repair your ISP ;-)
13:50:40  <FooBar_> It works, doesn't it?
13:51:12  <FooBar_> by the way, I wouldn't know what I can fix about it apart from sending an email to them...
13:51:15  <Ammler> hehe, yes, it does. :-)
13:51:39  <Ammler> just kidding, I wouldn't do something either. ;-)
13:51:52  <FooBar_> Maybe a modem reboot does something...
13:52:34  <FooBar_> That possibly gives me a new IP and hostname
13:52:35  <Ammler> me is wondering, why my system thinks, that this is a hacking attempt
13:53:02  <Ammler> Jun 11 15:38:00 mozart sshd[3723]: Address maps to, but this does not map back to the address - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT!
13:54:24  <planetmaker> if reverse DNS fails, it reports exactly that.
13:54:47  <Ammler> yep
13:54:50  <planetmaker> as it *could* be two different entities.
13:55:05  <planetmaker> e.g. forgery of an identity. Directing your "hate" to an innocent.
13:55:15  <Ammler> but why should a "hacker" fake the dns?
13:55:26  <planetmaker> so that you cannot track back on him.
13:55:31  <planetmaker> a hacker _has_ to do it.
13:55:35  <Ammler> I would use the ip anyway
13:55:57  <planetmaker> yes. And then anyone knows from which computer the attempt was done. And then the owner has a problem
13:57:07  <Ammler> !host
13:57:09  <Brot6> Ammler: has address
13:58:51  <Ammler> man-in-the-middle ATTACK!
14:01:51  <FooBar_> seems to be in disuse...
14:02:15  <FooBar_> trace and ping both time out
14:02:53  <Ammler> your ISP just forgot to fix that.
14:03:20  <Ammler> you should check, what happens, if you change the IP
14:03:40  <Ammler> if the reverse keeps wrong, an e-mail might be worth.
14:04:12  <Ammler> well, I know it now, if I got an alert, it is foobar :P
14:05:30  <FooBar_> I can't even silently poke around a bit :)
14:05:42  <Ammler> not if you fix your IP :P
14:05:52  <Ammler> don't
14:06:28  <Ammler> my server alerts that loud, a system halt is more silent.
14:10:30  <FooBar_> hmmm... The hostname that I /should/ have times out on a ping or trace, but does have an IP attached to it...
14:11:08  <FooBar_> and that's not my current IP :)
14:11:44  <FooBar_> oh, and just in order to be in time: bye planetmaker!
14:15:22  <planetmaker> hehe :)
14:15:28  <planetmaker> bye FooBar_ and Ammler :)
14:16:04  <Ammler> happy Pisa and put a helm on your head.
14:48:10  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Dutch Train Set - Revision 13: added mDDm plus other minor changes @ (by DJ Nekkid)
14:48:10  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Dutch Train Set - Revision 14: forgot the mddm.pcx @ (by DJ Nekkid)
16:18:03  <Brot6> OpenGFX: update from r69 to r70, starting nightly compile
16:18:31  <Brot6> OpenGFX: nightlies compile finished with 47 errors:
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17:09:42  <DJNekkid> g'afternoon
17:18:10  <Ammler> heya
17:31:53  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 71: Fix (r42): Re-fix Bug #87: space-character of newspaper font @ (by foobar)
17:32:44  <Ammler> BEEP!
17:32:50  <DJNekkid> hola
17:42:40  <FooBar_> don't beep so loudly :)
17:42:59  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 72: Fix (r70): Put "[metadata]" back in .obg file. @ (by foobar)
17:54:10  <Ammler> zephyris is registered, but he didn't activate
18:02:59  <FooBar_> just yet registered or for longer time now?
18:03:28  <FooBar_> maybe he wants a repo for his (e)GRVTS :)
18:04:05  <Brot6> opengfx: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
18:04:45  <DJNekkid> i'll ask him on msn :)
18:13:45  <DJNekkid> im bored!
18:14:20  <FooBar_> same here...
18:14:33  <FooBar_> plus I don't feel like doing the things that I actually could do...
18:14:40  <DJNekkid> hehe ... i know!
18:14:49  <DJNekkid> and WoW aint fun without my wife playing as well
18:15:31  <DJNekkid> i guess i'll code some dutch trains
18:15:40  <DJNekkid> but, they didnt have a 1800, nor a 1700 included
18:15:51  <DJNekkid> only a 1600
18:16:20  <FooBar_> yeah... most likely because it looks exactly the same...
18:16:34  <DJNekkid> but stats would be different i assume?
18:16:44  <DJNekkid> there is a red one, and a yellow one tho
18:16:48  <DJNekkid> both with black in the middle
18:16:51  <DJNekkid> of the side
18:17:05  <FooBar_> 1600 and 1800 are the same. 1700 should be a bit different, but not much
18:17:24  <DJNekkid> same hp, same TE, same weight?
18:18:16  <FooBar_> 1600 and 1800? yes. The 1800s are renumbered 1600s
18:18:25  <DJNekkid> okei?
18:18:37  <DJNekkid> the point of that is? :p
18:19:40  <FooBar_> when some of the 1600 went from passenger service over to freight service, they decided to renumber the ones that stayed in passenger service
18:19:50  <DJNekkid> aha
18:20:07  <DJNekkid> i see :)
18:20:30  <FooBar_> because passenger and freight service became two different companies at that same time
18:20:45  <DJNekkid> so, the red ones are freight?
18:20:48  <FooBar_> and I think that two companies can't share the same train series number
18:20:53  <FooBar_> yes, the red ones are freight
18:20:56  <DJNekkid> oki...
18:21:14  <DJNekkid> so a "NS 1600/1800" would be a sufficient name then
18:21:36  <FooBar_> although there are some yellow ones in freight as well at the moment. They didn't paint all of them red :P
18:21:46  <FooBar_> yes, that would be a sufficient name I guess
18:23:02  <DJNekkid> btw, is it just me, or do Openttd seem to favor pink as CC ?
18:23:28  <FooBar_> It would  be cool (if it's possible that is) if when passenger carriages are attached the engine is always yellow and if cargo wagons are attached that it's a 50/50 chance yellow or red
18:23:56  <DJNekkid> not more like 1/4th is yellow?
18:24:10  <DJNekkid> but that is possible without a problem
18:24:28  <FooBar_> Yes, it appears so indeed. Half of the times I start a new test-game I end up being pink. And I don't like pink for screenshots :P
18:24:49  <FooBar_> I haven't seen much red ones lately...
18:24:59  <FooBar_> Let me see if I can look the exact number up for you...
18:25:04  <DJNekkid> :D
18:26:17  <FooBar_> lol...
18:26:24  <FooBar_> there's exactly one red 1600
18:26:38  <FooBar_> all others are still yellow. They never buggered to repaint them
18:26:43  <DJNekkid> lol
18:29:27  <FooBar_> even more interesting: the red one currently doesn't even exist any more. It went back in passenger service and was therefore repainted yellow...
18:30:04  <DJNekkid> lol!
18:30:20  <DJNekkid> now that is ... well ...
18:30:30  <DJNekkid> waste of code :)
18:30:52  <FooBar_> If you want to do the stats properly you should do 1 in 37 red starting from the year 1999 and all yellows from 2002
18:31:36  <DJNekkid> well, 1 in 32 is doable...
18:31:41  <FooBar_> But since every Dutch train enthusiast knows that single red engine, I'd say do 1 in 4 red starting form 1999 and keeping it that way
18:32:09  <DJNekkid> i guess 1 in 37 actually _is_ doable...
18:32:13  <FooBar_> Even I thought the red one was still around...
18:32:18  <DJNekkid> or atleast 1/38
18:32:31  <FooBar_> 1 in 37 is not fun for the purpose of the game really...
18:33:06  <DJNekkid> nah
18:33:24  <FooBar_> Unless you want the set to be 100% realistic...
18:33:36  <DJNekkid> cant be done tho
18:33:44  <DJNekkid> but it would be a fun thing to code :p
18:34:42  <DJNekkid> or no
18:34:46  <DJNekkid> cant be done
18:34:51  <DJNekkid> hmm ...
18:36:04  <FooBar_> 1 in 37 should be doable...
18:36:45  <FooBar_> or not...
18:36:53  <FooBar_> well, I give up
18:37:01  <FooBar_> just do 1 in 4 and you're golden...
18:37:24  <DJNekkid> if i do ...
18:37:31  <DJNekkid> 31 in 32 times it's yellow
18:37:46  <DJNekkid> and the last time it chooses another random
18:37:52  <FooBar_> difference between 1600/1800 and 1700: the 1700 is two tons heavier, all else is the same
18:37:53  <DJNekkid> where like 7 of 8 times its red
18:39:01  <DJNekkid> that should be somewhere near close :)
18:40:20  <FooBar_> well, do whatever you like to do. It's your code after all ;)
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18:40:40  <FooBar_> Hi Beardie!
18:41:17  <Beardie> Hello
18:41:18  <DJNekkid> hi B :)
18:41:25  <Beardie> Hey DJ
18:43:07  <FooBar_> anyways, I think I'm gonna hit the shower and watch some tv after that
18:43:27  <Beardie> ok
18:43:39  <FooBar_> see you around all
18:43:40  <Beardie> what you going to watch?
18:43:58  <Beardie> lol i think hes gone :p
18:44:00  <FooBar_> megabuilders on the discovery channel
18:44:05  <Beardie> o cool
18:44:09  <Beardie> bye
18:44:16  <FooBar_> cya
18:46:15  <Beardie> humm dj?
18:46:28  <Beardie> when i commit do i need a push?
18:47:52  <andythenorth> yup
18:47:57  <andythenorth> did you pull first?
18:50:40  <Ammler> DJNekkid: there is a grf, which replaces pink with black, or was it lila?
18:51:07  <DJNekkid> there is a grf that replace something with black, but i cant remember what color
18:51:34  <Ammler> @wiki GRF_Table
18:51:37  <Webster> GRF Table 7.3 - #openttdcoop Wiki -
18:52:22  <Ammler> purple and mouve
18:52:41  <Ammler> but I guess, it would be easy changed to pink ;-
18:52:44  <Ammler> )
18:53:07  <Beardie> sorry guys
18:53:09  <Beardie> ammler
18:53:23  <Beardie> the grfcodec has been pushed again by accident
18:53:27  <Beardie> this time
18:53:31  <Beardie> i had it in the fodler
18:53:40  <Beardie> and Dj told me to push so i did
18:53:53  <Ammler> want me to rollback again?
18:54:02  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Revision 8: Updated Tracking Table, BA landor A320-200 @ (by Beardie27)
18:54:14  <Beardie> should i just remove the files?
18:54:18  <Beardie> can i do that
18:54:28  <DJNekkid> hg remove grfcodec.exe
18:54:30  <DJNekkid> altho
18:54:31  <Beardie> ok
18:54:35  <DJNekkid> that deletes the files also
18:54:38  <Beardie> ok
18:54:39  <DJNekkid> so make a backup first
18:54:49  <Beardie> backup?
18:54:51  <DJNekkid> copy grfcodec.exe grfc.exe
18:54:55  <Beardie> o yes lol
18:54:55  <Ammler> well, no exes at all
18:54:56  <DJNekkid> hg remove grfcodec.exe
18:55:07  <DJNekkid> ren grfc.exe grfcodec.exe
18:55:11  <Ammler> you could also just hg rollback
18:55:29  <Beardie> i update other things aswell
18:56:16  <Ammler> and in general, try to make one commit per job
18:56:31  <Beardie> ok
18:56:39  <Ammler> so if you make different planes, do commit them seperatly
18:56:41  <Beardie> i only updated one thing
18:56:48  <Beardie> anyway
18:56:49  <Ammler> so you can have a nice history
18:57:06  <Beardie> ok
18:57:14  <andythenorth> Beardie: I made a few mistakes at first too ;)
18:57:16  <Beardie> i remove the files
18:57:16  <Ammler> which is easy revertable
18:57:30  <Beardie> do i need a commit after removal?
18:57:34  <Beardie> or a push?
18:57:39  <Ammler> yep
18:57:50  <Beardie> yep doesn't help lol
18:57:54  <Ammler> yep
18:57:56  <Beardie> which one you yepping to lol
18:57:57  <Ammler> (both)
18:58:00  <Beardie> ok ty
18:58:08  <Ammler> :-D
18:58:25  <Ammler> hg rm file
18:58:27  <Ammler> hg ci
18:58:30  <Ammler> hg push
18:58:46  <Beardie> sorted
18:58:48  <Beardie> ty
18:59:08  <Beardie> bbl
18:59:09  <Beardie> bye
18:59:24  <Ammler> if you like to keep grfcodec in the folder
18:59:30  <Ammler> add it to the ignore list
18:59:32  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Revision 9: Tools removed @ (by Beardie27)
19:00:53  <Ammler> the exes are now hidden :-)
19:03:50  <Ammler> (but still there)
19:10:02  <DJNekkid> what number is length callback again?
19:14:30  <DJNekkid> 11
19:16:05  <DJNekkid> zyph inc
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19:21:11  <Zephyris> boo
19:22:38  <andythenorth> hi here too
19:22:59  <DJNekkid> Ammler
19:23:03  <DJNekkid> *beeo*
19:23:07  <DJNekkid> -o+p
19:23:26  <Ammler> hello
19:23:50  <Beardie> Hello Guys
19:23:57  <DJNekkid> here is Zephyris for ya
19:23:57  <Ammler> sali Zephyris :-)
19:24:07  <Ammler> didn't the registration work?
19:24:13  <andythenorth> Zephyris: activated but not registered at :D
19:24:17  <andythenorth> ??
19:24:23  <andythenorth> or vice versa (sorry)
19:24:25  <Beardie> for me Dj?
19:24:29  <Zephyris> oh yeah
19:24:34  <DJNekkid> for Ammler Beardie
19:24:34  <andythenorth> I'm in a hideous world of svn
19:24:37  <Zephyris> i remember now, i think i never got the email thro
19:24:38  <andythenorth> and learning unit tests
19:24:39  <Beardie> ok DJ
19:24:45  <Zephyris> may well have been a typo in my addy
19:24:47  <andythenorth> check your junk filter, mine went there
19:24:58  <Ammler> ah ok
19:25:01  <Zephyris> ah
19:25:02  <Ammler> then I remove it
19:25:03  <Zephyris> caught it
19:25:07  <Zephyris> hang on!
19:25:11  <Zephyris> fount the email!
19:25:15  <Ammler> ok :-)
19:25:25  <andythenorth> I thought I paid someone else to write the unit tests :(
19:27:13  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Dutch Train Set - Revision 15: added the LighTTrein @ (by DJ Nekkid)
19:27:13  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Dutch Train Set - Revision 16: for got to add the new files, AGAIN! @ (by DJ Nekkid)
19:27:56  <DJNekkid> hmm, perhaps 32 tons for a 4 part unit (tho not full length) is a bit too light :)
19:28:21  <Ammler> DJNekkid: has always nice commts ;-)
19:28:42  <DJNekkid> well, they are getting somewhere arent them?
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19:30:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Dutch Train Set - Revision 17: to low weight on the lighttrein @ (by DJ Nekkid)
19:31:05  <DJNekkid> FooBar_ are u still there or watching the telly?
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19:40:38  <Zephyris> So this repo looks pretty awesome!
19:41:01  <andythenorth> hg is very nice :)  And the web interface is neat
19:41:54  <Ammler> "this"?
19:42:02  <Ammler> there are some more :-)
19:42:41  <Ammler> Zephyris: ever worked with ssh?
19:42:55  <DJNekkid> *the hard part*
19:43:08  <Zephyris> a little
19:43:12  <Ammler> psst
19:43:26  <Ammler> do you have a ssh public key?
19:43:28  <andythenorth> I want to make all previous versions of HEQS grfs available somewhere.  is this a good place:
19:43:40  <andythenorth> (sorry two conversations at once)
19:43:42  <Zephyris> ah
19:43:54  <Ammler>
19:44:05  <Ammler> andythenorth: yes, for now
19:44:12  <Zephyris> Cool
19:44:20  <Zephyris> ill have a look through that
19:44:28  <Zephyris> not sure I have the time atm...
19:44:38  <andythenorth> Ammler: is there a chance that tagged versions will get compiled and added to a page automagically in future?
19:44:39  <Ammler> if we have the nightly farm finished, we will have them there
19:44:47  <andythenorth> ok
19:44:52  <Ammler> Zephyris: put for first create a ssh key
19:44:56  <Ammler> but*
19:45:01  <andythenorth> Zephyris: ssh is quick
19:45:14  <Ammler> andythenorth: theoretically it did alredy
19:45:18  <andythenorth> took me about 5 mins (on the mac), 4 mins was finding the instructions
19:45:26  <Ammler> but it had some bugs, and I need to change it.
19:46:06  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Bug #165: Sort DC9 series greyscales @ (by extspotter)
19:46:06  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Bug #166: Sort DC10 greyscale @ (by extspotter)
19:46:14  <Ammler> well no hurry, if you have a key, poke me or foobar
19:47:56  <Ammler> Zephyris: you can already comment tickets and such, so if you don't have much time, but like to "share" oppinions, please do.
19:48:26  <Zephyris> im just doing the public key now! :)
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19:48:39  <Beardie> anyone there?
19:48:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Heavy Equipment Set - @ (by andythenorth)
19:49:01  <Ammler> where?
19:49:12  <Beardie> here lol
19:49:35  <Beardie> do i commit for every file i add?
19:49:52  <Beardie> just made 5 .pcxs
19:50:08  <Ammler> I would, commit and push
19:50:14  <Beardie> 5 times
19:50:17  <Beardie> :)
19:50:21  <andythenorth> Beardie: generally.  It makes it easier for other people to follow commits, and for you to revert changes
19:50:27  <Ammler> well, you can add them together
19:50:28  <Beardie> ok cool
19:50:48  <Ammler> if they belong somehow together
19:51:08  <Beardie> well they are 5 different colour schemes of a A320-200
19:51:19  <Zephyris> cool, anyone ready for a public key?
19:51:23  <Ammler> just think about, if you change something, you should be able to revert it, without revert something unrelated
19:51:46  <Ammler> yes :-)
19:51:48  <Beardie> ok i'll add them all seperate ammler all the time then there is no error
19:52:02  <Ammler> do you have a url?
19:52:25  <Zephyris> i have a key, no url sadly
19:52:29  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Heavy Equipment Set - heqs_preview_v0.4.grf @ (by andythenorth)
19:52:30  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Heavy Equipment Set - heqs_preview_v0.4c.grf @ (by andythenorth)
19:52:30  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Heavy Equipment Set - HEQS_User_Guide_v0.4.pdf @ (by andythenorth)
19:52:32  <Ammler> well, those seems to belong together :-)
19:52:50  <DJNekkid> Beardie: imho: a new plane, no matter how many liveries, is suitable for one commit
19:52:55  <andythenorth> Beardie: they are all variations on one vehicle.  I would commit those together
19:52:58  <DJNekkid> unless you do 5 now, and 5 tomorrow
19:53:07  <Ammler> Zephyris:
19:53:09  <andythenorth> if they were two different vehicles, I'd do two commits
19:53:13  <Ammler> we can remove it after
19:53:29  <Ammler> I have my key public all the time, it doesn't hurt
19:56:04  <Ammler> Zephyris: you are still not activated :-(
19:56:05  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Dutch Train Set - Revision 18: added HSA, this time with files and correct weight :P @ (by DJ Nekkid)
19:56:05  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Bug #167: Sort 747-200/-400D/-400F(SCD)/-400F(BCF) Greyscales @ (by extspotter)
19:57:13  <Ammler> Beardie: because you aren't alone developing on WAS, you should always pull -u before commit
19:57:50  <Zephyris> Hmmm, yeah, not sure whats going on. The activation link doesnt seem to do anything!
19:57:55  <Ammler> oh well, that was just a bug report, thought is a commit :-)
19:59:53  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Revision 10: Added 5 A320-200 pcx Files @ (by Beardie27)
19:59:53  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #168: BAC1-11 Greyscales @ (by extspotter)
20:00:18  <Beardie> i understand the pulling ammler :)
20:01:27  <DJNekkid> Ammler: cant we unbold brot?
20:01:35  <Ammler> we can
20:02:04  <DJNekkid> it's so noisy...
20:02:04  <Ammler> Zephyris: you have now write access to all repos of the devzone
20:02:21  <Zephyris> Sweet :)
20:02:40  <Ammler> but we do only write to repos we are at least dev
20:03:06  <Zephyris> yeah
20:03:25  <Ammler> but I guess, andythenorth will add you as dev to firs soon ;-)
20:03:55  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #167: Sort 747-200/-400D/-400F(SCD)/-400F(BCF) Greyscales @ (by extspotter)
20:03:55  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #169: Dash 8 Greyscale @ (by extspotter)
20:03:55  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #170: Update Tracking Table @ (by extspotter)
20:04:49  <andythenorth> I am sitting here hitting refresh on the 'members' list waiting for you too popup...
20:05:10  <Ammler> hmm, dosn't?
20:05:14  <Beardie> Dj frank has reigstered can you add him to the contributors
20:05:21  <andythenorth> done
20:05:29  <Ammler> maybe there is really something broken with his nick :-)
20:05:36  <andythenorth> registered you as a developer
20:05:49  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #171: Fix Eoin's Flyglobespan 737-800 @ (by extspotter)
20:05:49  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #172: Fix extspotter's Ryanair 737-800 @ (by extspotter)
20:05:52  <andythenorth> what permissions do the different roles confer?
20:05:54  <DJNekkid> sure can
20:06:09  <DJNekkid> in matter of facy Beardie, so can you :)
20:06:16  <andythenorth> Beardie: my 'done' above was in reference to Zephyris, not DJ Frank :)
20:06:19  <DJNekkid> settings -> members
20:06:36  <andythenorth> Zephyris:
20:06:38  <Ammler> andythenorth: currently they are just for the web frontend
20:06:46  <Beardie> i got it andy :)
20:06:48  <DJNekkid> DJ Frank? whos that? *messing even more with peoples heads*
20:07:07  <Beardie> lol
20:07:10  <Beardie> Just "Frank"
20:07:11  <andythenorth> <embarassed>
20:07:12  <Ammler> Manger does everything to the project, adding members etc. defining versions and such
20:07:38  <Ammler> Developer does constibute and also write to the repo
20:07:50  <Ammler> constributor doesn't write to the repo
20:08:02  <Ammler> (adding stuff with tickets)
20:08:33  <Ammler> but the devzone is new, if you have ideas or wahtever, just tell/ask whatever)
20:08:40  <andythenorth> looks pretty sane to me
20:08:51  <Ammler> post a tikcet here:
20:09:06  <Beardie> ok thanks ammler
20:09:17  <Beardie> i will suggest anything that i can think off as time goes on
20:09:25  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #173: Finish the Malev F70 @ (by extspotter)
20:09:25  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #174: Finish the Turkish 737-800 @ (by extspotter)
20:09:45  <Ammler> Beardie: just don't expect to have it done the other day :-)
20:11:01  <Beardie> emm you sentence confuses me lol
20:11:47  <Beardie> DJ can you add "faddypainter" to contributors please :)
20:12:05  <DJNekkid> sure can, but so can you :)
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20:12:21  <Beardie> o lol i am manager
20:13:10  <Beardie> DJ you not need to me Developer?
20:13:12  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #175: Redo Aer Lingus 737-200 @ (by extspotter)
20:13:12  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #176: Redo Astraeus 737-700 @ (by extspotter)
20:13:15  <Beardie> be*
20:14:17  <DJNekkid> i have no idea
20:14:22  <DJNekkid> it's your project dude... :)
20:14:53  <DJNekkid> i just thought that when you get stuck, you need help, thus me beeing a bit dev every now and then :p
20:17:38  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Dutch Train Set - Revision 19: some HSA tweaks @ (by DJ Nekkid)
20:19:33  <Beardie> ok DJ thanks :)
20:24:28  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #177: Add sound for existing aircraft @ (by FaddyPainter)
20:24:28  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #178: A380 Qantas @ (by Frank)
20:30:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Bug #179: Sort out "flashing" orange problems on easyjet and Iberia @ (by extspotter)
20:33:31  <Ammler> beardie, if you like a roadmap, you need to add versions
20:33:42  <Ammler> and then assign the bug/features to it.
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20:37:31  <Beardie> emm whats that mean
20:38:45  <Ammler> check project opengfx or 2cc
20:38:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Revision 11: Added Basic A320-200 NFO, Still Needs Work @ (by Beardie27)
20:38:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliner Set - Feature #180: A380 Singapore @ (by FaddyPainter)
20:39:01  <Beardie> ok
20:39:14  <Ammler> there is a tab roadmap, where you can see , what needs done until next release.
20:40:09  <Ammler> the titles of the roadmap are versions:
20:40:37  <Beardie> ok
20:41:05  <Beardie> by the way cna i change it From "World Airline Set" to "World Airliners Set"
20:41:12  <Beardie> will that change the URL?
20:41:17  <Beardie> title of the project?
20:42:46  <Ammler> Beardie: no
20:42:52  <Ammler> you can't change the url anymore
20:43:09  <Ammler> would you like to?
20:43:30  <Ammler> that would also need changes of the repo
20:44:28  <Beardie> well its just mean to be "Airliners" and not "Airline"
20:44:37  <Beardie> if its simple then ok
20:44:40  <Beardie> but sounds hard to do
20:45:07  <Ammler> hmm?
20:45:16  <Beardie> meant*
20:45:20  <Ammler> not hard to do, just you will lose your current urls
20:45:33  <Beardie> look just keep it
20:45:43  <Beardie> as it is
20:45:47  <Ammler> I could change it on the db
20:45:52  <Beardie> db?
20:45:55  <Ammler> but you can change the title
20:46:13  <Ammler> the backend is a mysql db
20:46:17  <Beardie> how do i change the title
20:46:49  <Ammler>
20:47:33  <Ammler> DJNekkid: now we have the disadvantage of the name instead of the short ;-)
20:47:43  <Ammler> if the longer name is wrong :P
20:47:59  <Beardie> its only the url
20:48:11  <Beardie> i am not bothered the title change is fine
20:48:52  <Ammler> it is up2you
20:49:00  <DJNekkid> Ammler: hehe!
20:49:02  <DJNekkid> was it was!
20:49:11  <Beardie> it was wrong lol
20:49:23  <Ammler> was was right
20:49:32  <Beardie> extaclly lol
20:49:39  <DJNekkid> but you saied was was wrong!
20:49:42  <DJNekkid> you didnt want was!
20:49:42  <Ammler> maybe we can change it now
20:49:45  <Beardie> but was was not allowed
20:49:50  <Ammler> since it is very new
20:49:55  <DJNekkid> you wanted was to become something else it was'nt supposed to be!
20:50:02  <DJNekkid> wasn't
20:50:02  <Ammler> was was allowed
20:50:04  <Ammler> but
20:50:15  <Ammler> was wasn't very clear, was it was
20:50:36  <Beardie> no was was not
20:50:39  <Beardie> clear
20:50:45  <Ammler> :-)
20:50:56  <DJNekkid> im actually loling here!
20:50:58  <Brot6> feed DevZone had 14 updates, showing the latest 10
20:50:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #171: Fix Eoin's Flyglobespan 737-800 @ (by extspotter)
20:50:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #172: Fix extspotter's Ryanair 737-800 @ (by extspotter)
20:50:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #173: Finish the Malev F70 @ (by extspotter)
20:50:59  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #175: Redo Aer Lingus 737-200 @ (by extspotter)
20:51:02  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #176: Redo Astraeus 737-700 @ (by extspotter)
20:51:05  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #177: Add sound for existing aircraft @ (by FaddyPainter)
20:51:08  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #178: A380 Qantas @ (by Frank)
20:51:11  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #179: Sort out "flashing" orange problems on easyjet and Iberia @ (by extspotter)
20:51:12  <Beardie> wooo
20:51:14  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 11: Added Basic A320-200 NFO, Still Needs Work @ (by Beardie27)
20:51:16  <Beardie> whats going on
20:51:18  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #180: A380 Singapore @ (by FaddyPainter)
20:51:22  <Beardie> i have seen this before
20:51:29  <Beardie> ammler?
20:51:41  <Beardie> this allready come up before
20:52:12  <Ammler> hmm, sometimes
20:52:19  <Ammler> rss is fucked up
20:52:56  <Beardie> lol
20:52:56  <Ammler> we will change that anyway too, as djn requested
20:53:33  <DJNekkid> its a tad noisy as it is now...
20:54:17  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #181: A320-200 NFO @ (by Beardie27)
20:54:46  <Beardie> yes hard to read what people are typing in between it
20:56:01  <DJNekkid> it almost look like some kind of porn-spam
20:56:20  <Ammler> hehe
20:56:45  <DJNekkid> get your cheap pussy here!
20:57:17  <Beardie> lol
20:58:39  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Feature #182: Replace RSS Feed with hooks... @ (by Ammler)
20:58:47  <Beardie> lol
20:59:24  <DJNekkid> ^^
20:59:33  <DJNekkid> well ...
20:59:49  <DJNekkid> we are getting a quite knowledable userbase here now
21:00:24  <Beardie> i can see :)
21:01:55  <DJNekkid> anyone feel like makeing a #openttdcoop.devzone banner?
21:03:25  <Ammler> :-)
21:03:38  <Ammler> even #openttdcoop hasn't one
21:11:23  <FooBar_> DJNekkid: I'm here now, so if you still need me...
21:11:43  <Ammler> FooBar_: you should add Zeph to opengfx ;-)
21:11:53  <FooBar_> Ammler: Just did that :)
21:12:19  <Ammler> and assigned all tickets :-P
21:12:35  <FooBar_> lol
21:14:52  <DJNekkid> FooBar_: i cant remember what i were to ask you
21:15:10  <FooBar_> something about dutch trains most likely... :)
21:15:42  <FooBar_> You asked if I was still here or if I was watching the telly. If that helps...
21:15:59  <DJNekkid> not reall
21:16:00  <DJNekkid> y
21:16:10  <DJNekkid> but yes, it were somthing about dutch trains :)
21:16:17  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - banner.png @ (by DJNekkid)
21:17:31  <Ammler> hehe
21:17:40  <DJNekkid> suppsed to be transparent tho
21:17:58  <Ammler> yeah, do you like to make a grf with? ;-)
21:18:12  <DJNekkid> ..??
21:19:29  <FooBar_> That blue is only transparent in TTD ;)
21:19:43  <Ammler> that is what I meant :P
21:19:53  <DJNekkid> i swear it were that on a 2cc banner alsp
21:19:55  <DJNekkid> also
21:19:57  <Ammler> hmm, I abit smaller
21:20:54  <Ammler> maybe <small>#openttdcoop.</small>DevZone ...
21:22:23  <Ammler> <-- this is big enough, imo.
21:22:42  <DJNekkid> and voila
21:22:42  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - banner.png @ (by DJNekkid)
21:23:35  <FooBar_> Do the subtitle like #openttdcoop: "Boldly *coding* what others only dare to dream"...
21:24:55  <DJNekkid> hehe!
21:25:08  <Ammler> now we habe coop players and coop arthists/coders :-)
21:26:35  <Ammler> andythenorth: firs is just "stuff" ;-)
21:30:20  <DJNekkid>
21:31:10  <Ammler> isn't there a typo?
21:31:31  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - banner.png @ (by DJNekkid)
21:31:51  <FooBar_> yes, there is
21:32:17  <FooBar_> now we're like coding without hair on our heads :P
21:32:25  <DJNekkid> rofl!
21:32:33  <Ammler> first I read "badly building...
21:32:38  <Ammler> or coding
21:32:55  <DJNekkid> i can ensure you foobar, my head is too full of hair!
21:32:56  <Ammler> which might in some cases be true :P
21:33:09  <DJNekkid> my wife bugs be all the time... "go get a haircut"
21:33:15  <FooBar_> lol
21:33:26  <DJNekkid>
21:33:31  <FooBar_> also it's "what" and not "where"
21:33:45  <FooBar_> and "others" instead of "other"
21:33:48  <Ammler> DJNekkid: then you should make a complete cut with shave
21:33:52  <FooBar_> and "dream" instead of "dream"
21:34:04  <Ammler> so you women won't say that again
21:34:29  <FooBar_> if you do that, you can leave "baldly" in I guess :)
21:35:23  <Ammler> and use project "guide" for general stuff
21:35:50  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 12: Added Four Planes To 737-400 Tracking Table @ (by Beardie27)
21:35:50  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - banner.png @ (by DJNekkid)
21:36:39  <FooBar_> and it's "coding" instead of "codeing" ;)
21:37:10  * Ammler is wondering, if I should add my complete system config to a hg repo
21:38:17  <DJNekkid>
21:38:18  <DJNekkid> any better?
21:38:29  * FooBar_ wonders why Ammler is wondering if he should add his complete system config to a hg repo
21:38:31  <DJNekkid> coding? isnt that like fishing cod? :)
21:38:50  <FooBar_> that would be codding I guess...
21:38:51  <Ammler> like a backup solution
21:38:52  <FooBar_> check google
21:38:57  <FooBar_> he'll tell you
21:39:01  <Ammler> now I don't have histroy in my backup
21:39:12  <DJNekkid> as in ... "im gonna go coding at the fjord this weekend"
21:39:31  <FooBar_> do you always bring a computer to a fjord?
21:39:32  <DJNekkid> hmm
21:39:40  <DJNekkid> *on
21:39:47  <DJNekkid> optionally in
21:39:49  <DJNekkid> :p
21:39:52  <FooBar_> Ammler: you might have a point there...
21:40:15  <DJNekkid> anyway
21:40:20  <Ammler> good night
21:40:22  <DJNekkid> what would be the correct spelled term?
21:40:23  <Ammler> :P
21:40:33  <Ammler> oh, not that :-)
21:40:36  <DJNekkid> we fish stuff in gpl?
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21:40:39  <FooBar_> "Boldly coding what others only dare to dream"
21:40:39  <DJNekkid> :p
21:41:06  <FooBar_> even Andy is tired by our bad English knowledge here :)
21:41:08  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - banner.png @ (by DJNekkid)
21:41:12  <FooBar_> Ammler: good night!
21:41:13  <Ammler> and what about the drawers?
21:41:27  <Ammler> FooBar_: I thought, DJNekkid will :-)
21:41:37  <Ammler> but I will soon too
21:41:49  <FooBar_> oh...hehe
21:42:10  <FooBar_> well, not good night then. At least not for now :P
21:42:22  <Ammler> hehe, "in GPL"
21:42:50  <DJNekkid>
21:42:52  <DJNekkid> anyway ...
21:42:53  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - banner.png @ (by DJNekkid)
21:42:57  <DJNekkid> that should be quite final and correct?
21:43:04  <FooBar_> maybe just "we do stuff"
21:43:18  <Ammler> GPL=Grfs for Public L??
21:43:27  <FooBar_> is correct now by the anyway
21:43:39  <Ammler> "we do stuff :-o"
21:44:26  <DJNekkid> "we code the stuff you use"
21:44:49  <FooBar_> Grfs for Public Leisure
21:45:46  <FooBar_> but then there's not only grfs, IS and AP as well, amongst others...
21:45:57  <FooBar_> mainly grfs though :)
21:46:07  <Ammler> yes
21:46:08  <DJNekkid> i.e.
21:46:14  <Ammler> AP is just archive things
21:46:14  <DJNekkid> "we code the stuff you use"
21:46:40  <FooBar_> DJNekkid: you already said that ;)
21:46:48  <Ammler> and the coopetition ladder of XeryusTC
21:47:25  <FooBar_> I filed that under "amongst others" :P
21:47:56  <Ammler> <-- I might install that for the longer terms.
21:47:57  <Webster> Title: mercurial-server: README@db219a5a14f8 (at
21:48:42  <Ammler> would allow usermanagement over hg repo
21:48:53  <FooBar_> that might be nice if it gets real busy
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21:49:46  <Ammler> on the other side, I like how it is now, everyone could theoretcially write everywhere :-)
21:50:18  <FooBar_> currently it saves the hassle if someone wants to work on a different project as well
21:51:03  <Ammler> well, if I install that, it should then write the access file from the redmine database
21:51:39  <FooBar_> and as long as people can prevent themselves from committing where they shouldn't, the current setup works just as good
21:51:54  <Ammler> yeah
21:52:15  <Ammler> and you if someone really gets annoyed, we can rollback/stripe
21:53:08  <FooBar_> exactly. And if someone misbehaves in case of the mercurial-server setup, he or she needs to be banned manually anyways.
21:54:04  <Ammler> hehe, it is like on our public game server :-)
21:54:43  <Ammler> well, it is very similar, playing in the same company or developing together.
21:55:12  <Ammler> it needs a kind of communication and decipline
21:55:29  <FooBar_> in fact it is indeed. Never thought about it that way...
21:55:30  <Ammler> (might have some spelling errors)
21:56:27  <Ammler> yeah, and the word #openttdcoop somehow fits here as well. :-)
21:58:29  <FooBar_> :)
22:11:18  <Ammler> WELL, good night all
22:11:35  <FooBar_> good night!
22:17:10  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 13: Sorted A320 Co-ordinates File for A320 Plane @ (by Beardie27)
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22:21:51  <FooBar_> well, I'm off as well. Good night.
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