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01:33:26 <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 59M) 01:33:26 <Brot6> Look! A ladder! Maybe it leads to heaven, or a sandwich! 04:54:45 *** DJ_Nekkid has quit IRC 06:15:46 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:17:34 <DJNekkid> good morning norway! (or germany or swiss) 06:36:27 <DJNekkid> or uk or nl 06:36:32 <DJNekkid> or cyberspace :p 06:40:29 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:43:08 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:43:09 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 06:44:34 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 06:48:18 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:55:29 <andythenorth_> morning 06:55:52 <DJNekkid> how you doin'? :p 07:19:33 <DJNekkid> planetmaker and Ammler: have a look at the most recent file in the repo :) (under docs) 07:22:27 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 212: some thoughts/plan on the precomiler ... IDS and such @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/212 (by DJNekkid) 07:28:41 <planetmaker> Moin DJNekkid 07:28:53 <planetmaker> Please make the EXACT same changes also to ALL other language files 07:29:27 <planetmaker> Or maintaining translations becomes a pain 07:30:49 <DJNekkid> i thought the point were that we didnt have to make language files themselves... 07:30:52 <DJNekkid> only one, and the rest would make themselves 07:31:00 <planetmaker> well. yes. 07:31:14 <planetmaker> But checking for consistency is a pain, if the language file formats differ. 07:31:22 <planetmaker> You made them differ from the English original now 07:31:49 <planetmaker> it will get better when we have better pre-processor support. 07:31:53 <planetmaker> I'm working on it. 07:32:05 <planetmaker> But now, this change basically makes it... difficult to check for consistency 07:32:16 <planetmaker> as line numbers differ and such 07:35:09 <planetmaker> beaufication work should always be done to all language files, though. That won't change 07:37:25 <andythenorth_> planetmaker: can you drop me the transcript from yesterday, cheers ;) 07:46:08 <planetmaker> aye 07:52:22 <planetmaker> http://www.openttdcoop.org/files/pm/devzone.log <-- I couldn't be arsed to cut anything. So there's everything starting May 15th 07:57:09 <planetmaker> ^ andythenorth_ 07:57:29 <planetmaker> oh, btw. There's the "official" logs in the topic title btw. I forgot about it, too ;) 07:58:37 <planetmaker> in the title, those are the logs of our bot, Webster 08:18:49 <andythenorth_> yep that works 08:19:05 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 09:05:26 <DJNekkid> brb 09:05:26 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 09:08:25 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 183: Updated WAS MS DOS Batch File @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/183 (by Frank) 09:09:56 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - preprocessor_r59.diff @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/197/preprocessor_r59.diff (by planetmaker) 09:12:22 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:13:48 <Ammler> hello 09:13:57 <Ammler> planetmaker: use tickets for diffs 09:14:36 <Ammler> you don't get feedback for downloads 09:15:51 <planetmaker> well... will you give me feedback despite? ;) 09:16:10 <planetmaker> foobar and andy and DJ are currently not here. But yes, you're right. 09:16:23 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 09:16:43 <planetmaker> I didn't make it a ticket as I want it to be tested / seen by them all and it kinda is more universal than just firs (though it only applies there now - for testing purposes) 09:19:47 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Support #255: using pre-processor to allow using ID_<whatever> in... @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/255 (by planetmaker) 09:28:53 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:34:03 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 09:43:12 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:54:08 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:54:35 <DJNekkid> hi again :) 09:57:03 <Hirundo> hi DJ 10:01:28 <DJNekkid> so... :) 10:04:02 <Brot6> 2cctrainset: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/OpenTTD/2cctrainset/ initiated. 10:20:43 *** DJ_Nekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:21:53 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 10:36:08 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 10:39:17 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:40:56 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:40:56 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 10:43:09 <planetmaker> DJ_Nekkid, care to look at firs, where I posted a patch which introduces IDs within the NFO files? 10:43:24 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/255 10:43:43 <planetmaker> That then would go in the direction of getting it in that direction 10:45:21 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 10:49:29 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:52:24 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 10:53:58 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:58:21 <planetmaker> andythenorth, can you have a look at http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/255 ? 10:58:34 <planetmaker> apply the attached diff and see whether you're fine with it and it works for you? 10:58:50 <andythenorth> working - probably can't chat until tonight, but leaving IRC on so I can watch ;) 10:59:02 <planetmaker> k 11:10:15 *** DJ_Nekkid has quit IRC 11:14:07 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 11:21:03 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:25:56 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 12:50:16 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:12:16 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:12:24 <Frankr> ammler? 16:16:25 <planetmaker> Frankr, also here the usual rule ensues: just ask :) 16:16:30 <planetmaker> it will be read in due time 16:17:13 <Ammler> yes, and maybe someone else might help you too 16:17:30 <Ammler> but of course, just "hello" is fine :-) 16:17:44 <Ammler> Frankr: ^ 17:39:40 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:23:06 <planetmaker> Ammler: somehow there's again an internal server error at dev.openttdcoop.org 18:23:46 <Ammler> yes 18:24:18 <planetmaker> if it solves itself within time, it's always really taking its time... 18:24:28 <planetmaker> what is actually the real issue behind this? 18:24:29 <Ammler> apache sucks, I assume 18:24:38 <planetmaker> meh :( 18:24:53 <Ammler> apache opens a zillions files, 18:25:09 <planetmaker> and what's the problem with that? 18:25:24 <planetmaker> I mean... can't that limit be increased? 18:25:27 <Ammler> but currently, it is ok, isn't? 18:25:41 <planetmaker> no. I cannot reach the web interface 18:25:43 <Ammler> yes, by € 18:25:59 <planetmaker> hm... by € is bad :S 18:26:04 <Ammler> that was the answer of the support 18:26:21 <planetmaker> they're really funny guys... 18:26:45 <Ammler> I have no idea, what they supose to have running with such low limits. 18:27:09 <planetmaker> and it's only them who can change that? 18:27:13 <Ammler> why do I need 30 gig space and 4 cpus, if I can run maybe 1-2 services 18:27:38 <planetmaker> what's your provider anyway? 18:27:44 <Ammler> server4you.de 18:27:51 <planetmaker> ah 18:27:52 <Ammler> well, I can reduce the open files 18:28:03 <planetmaker> well. by closing down things 18:28:12 <planetmaker> but that's a kind-of non-solution 18:28:12 <Ammler> I did that with openttd, by making all grfs in one tar 18:28:19 <Ammler> hmm 18:28:34 <Ammler> I forgot about content_download 18:29:42 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:31:33 <Ammler> the problem is 18:31:49 <Ammler> if it reaches the limits, the connection to mysql seems to crash 18:32:06 <Ammler> and so remine doesn't work anymore, also if the limit is solved 18:32:12 <Frankr> that was my question btw earlier 18:32:15 <Ammler> redmine* 18:32:52 <Frankr> y the openttdcoop.dev wasn't workin, but thn i left to go to beardie's 18:33:42 <Ammler> well, if you write Ammler?, I should assume that? 18:34:08 <planetmaker> hehe 18:34:17 <Frankr> lol 18:34:50 <Frankr> sorry as i said beardie asked if i wanted to play rock band for a bit, and i said yh, forgettin about this 18:34:53 <Ammler> planetmaker: rcmysql restart solved the issue on redmine 18:35:13 <planetmaker> ok. hm... I recall, that I can do that, too, right? 18:35:20 <Ammler> you don't need for my answer to report an error 18:36:10 <planetmaker> we should document that on a wiki page (outside that). Or I should not it down for myself somewhere. I tend to forget these things 18:38:31 <Ammler> you should be able run every command with sudo 18:38:45 <Ammler> removed the limit to certain tools 18:39:05 <planetmaker> :O 18:39:28 <Ammler> well, you don't hurt me, you hurt openttdcoop :P 18:40:12 <planetmaker> well. No intention to abuse it here :) 18:40:12 <Ammler> try to restart mysql 18:40:17 <planetmaker> to much hassle :P 18:40:26 <planetmaker> that's my question: how? 18:40:41 <Ammler> sudo rcmysql restart ? 18:40:48 <Ammler> if that doesn't work 18:40:56 <Ammler> you need to run the init.d script directly 18:41:19 <planetmaker> I need to be planetmaker and not ottdc, right? 18:41:35 <Ammler> ottdc can't do it, indeed 18:41:41 <Ammler> (I hope) :P 18:42:16 <Ammler> alternative: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart 18:42:54 <Ammler> or maybe sudo - rcmysql restart could work 18:43:21 <planetmaker> testing first method now :) 18:43:23 <Ammler> suse people aren't that familiar with sudo :-) 18:43:42 <Ammler> if first fails, try sudo - ... 18:44:11 <planetmaker> it needs to be sudo /usr/sbin/rcmysql restart 18:44:24 <Ammler> Jun 19 20:43:53 mozart sudo: planetmaker : TTY=pts/7 ; PWD=/home/planetmaker ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/sbin/rcmysql restart 18:44:57 <Ammler> yes 18:45:04 <planetmaker> hm... still shutting down mysql 18:45:08 <Ammler> but if you would use - 18:45:35 <planetmaker> hm? 18:45:53 <Ammler> means? 18:46:04 <Ammler> doesn't it go down? 18:46:11 <planetmaker> Dunno. Seems to hang 18:46:28 <planetmaker> got no xterm prompt so far again. 18:46:39 <planetmaker> well. now I do :) 18:46:51 <planetmaker> obviously takes its time 18:47:11 <planetmaker> successfully restarted db 18:47:33 <Ammler> hmm, not sure 18:47:55 <Ammler> I stopped it too :-) 18:48:22 <Ammler> planetmaker: sudo - rcmysql start 18:48:33 <planetmaker> :P 18:48:37 <planetmaker> what does that then do? 18:49:07 <Ammler> I ran only rcmysql stop 18:49:23 <Ammler> and I am still wondering, if you are able to start it :-) 18:49:25 <planetmaker> well. that command you just posted is invalid. It issues sudo help 18:49:31 <Ammler> ok 18:49:43 <Ammler> then run the other 18:50:01 <planetmaker> started in no time 18:50:03 <planetmaker> done 18:50:22 <Ammler> you can use rcmysql status to see current status 18:50:42 <planetmaker> nope, I cannot :) 18:50:51 <Ammler> you can! 18:50:53 <planetmaker> Checking for service MySQL: checkproc: Can not open pid file /var/lib/mysql/mysqld.pid: Permission denied 18:51:02 <Ammler> hehe 18:51:06 <planetmaker> wait. no sudo :P 18:51:23 <planetmaker> yes. running 18:51:34 <Ammler> try the same with apache 18:51:43 <planetmaker> ok. how? 18:51:55 <Ammler> but first just stop 18:52:10 <Ammler> rcapache2 stop 18:52:50 <planetmaker> done 18:52:58 <Ammler> now start 18:53:03 <Ammler> was down 18:53:05 <planetmaker> done 18:53:19 <planetmaker> Starting httpd2 (prefork) httpd2-prefork: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 62.75.156.9 for ServerName 18:53:23 <planetmaker> ^that's ok? 18:53:43 <Ammler> well, dunno :-) 18:53:50 <Ammler> I ignored it yet. 18:54:03 <Ammler> ah 18:54:05 <planetmaker> he :) 18:54:07 <Ammler> looks easy solveable 18:54:46 <Ammler> could you again try to stop mysql 18:54:52 <Ammler> this time I just watch 18:55:35 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:56:56 <planetmaker> k. hold on 18:57:05 <planetmaker> done 18:57:16 <planetmaker> (I have no screen in usage) 19:01:13 <Ammler> planetmaker: MYSQL! 19:01:16 <Ammler> :-D 19:01:22 <planetmaker> damn. 19:01:33 <planetmaker> fell asleep 19:01:42 <planetmaker> no got distracted by IRC :P 19:01:57 <Ammler> lucky, I have no paying customers on that server :P 19:02:01 <planetmaker> see. I'm not a good admin ;) 19:02:09 <Ammler> oh well 19:02:27 <Ammler> good admins don't need such commands 19:02:33 <Ammler> those server always work 19:03:07 <planetmaker> well... They need it, too. But only at 22h or so when they had an off-time for 10 minutes in order to restart updated services or so ;) 19:03:52 <planetmaker> _ln they use - I think - 3.x. But not sure. They might use a 10.5 a 10.4 and a 10.3.9 19:05:00 <Ammler> planetmaker: wrong channel :P 19:05:18 <planetmaker> missing /msg :P 19:05:42 <planetmaker> he got kicked from #openttd - by SmatZ ;) 19:05:52 <planetmaker> oh, you know 19:08:59 <Ammler> could you know try to stop mysql, so I know that works too :-) 19:11:39 <planetmaker> -sh: /bin/ls: Too many open files in system 19:11:41 <planetmaker> -sh: /usr/bin/dircolors: Too many open files in system 19:11:42 <planetmaker> ^ doesn't bode well... 19:12:27 <planetmaker> mozart:~$ sudo /usr/sbin/rcmysql stop 19:12:27 <Ammler> mäh 19:12:29 <planetmaker> sudo: error while loading shared libraries: libaudit.so.0: cannot open shared object file: Error 23 19:12:30 <planetmaker> ^ indeed... 19:13:06 <Ammler> I should also remove mail completely from the server 19:13:12 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:14:01 <Ammler> # lsof | wc -l 19:14:03 <Ammler> 3637 19:14:13 <Ammler> that isn't high 19:14:22 <Ammler> limit is at 5000 19:14:36 <planetmaker> what number is that? 19:14:42 <planetmaker> open files? 19:14:51 <Ammler> somehow, I guess 19:21:17 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 19:22:51 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:49:58 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 187: Renamed b37-100 pcx to match nfo @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/187 (by Frank) 19:49:59 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 188: Removed incorrect files @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/188 (by Frank) 19:49:59 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #256: B737 Co-ord File @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/256 (by Beardie27) 19:49:59 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #257: B737-100 Red Meatball Flashes @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/257 (by Beardie27) 19:50:01 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #258: Fix 737-100 Allignment @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/258 (by Frank) 19:50:04 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 189: Fixed #232 - Added Tupolev Tu144 Greyscale @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/189 (by Beardie27) 19:50:08 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #232 (Closed): Tu144 Greyscale @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/232#change-531 (by Beardie27) 19:50:11 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #259: US Air 737-400 @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/259 (by FaddyPainter) 20:06:36 <planetmaker> andythenorth: I blame you that I haven't got any feedback on the pre-compiler diff I posted ;) 20:06:45 * planetmaker also needed to dial out some blame now :P 20:07:43 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/255 <-- apply that diff and say whether that suits your needs (for a starter in that direction) 20:07:52 <planetmaker> and as a proof of concept 20:08:09 <andythenorth> I blame my wife that I'm going out for italian food 20:08:18 <andythenorth> ! 20:08:35 <planetmaker> bastard she. 20:08:38 <planetmaker> ;) 20:09:08 <planetmaker> You are to pity. You English folks just cannot cook. You always have to eat at other nationalities ;) 20:09:25 * planetmaker hides to avoid the utmost heat of the upcoming flame 20:10:19 <planetmaker> just don't mention the war :P 20:10:55 * planetmaker has to find again the monty python movies... 20:10:57 <andythenorth> no flames from me, I'm going to eat steak and chips 20:11:08 <planetmaker> :O in an Italian restaurant? 20:11:20 <andythenorth> yup 20:11:26 <planetmaker> pfft 20:11:38 <planetmaker> you should do that in an Argentinean 20:11:52 <planetmaker> or Brazilian :) 20:12:04 <planetmaker> hm.... which reminds me... 20:12:25 <andythenorth> diff looks cleaner. Haven't applied it but I had a look on devzone 20:15:57 <andythenorth> will do tomorrow though, thanks for putting it up. 20:16:06 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:24:24 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #260: A320-200 BA Landor @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/260 (by seandasheep) 20:24:24 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #243: Toyland Buildings' Construction Stages @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/243#change-532 (by athanasios) 20:54:25 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 190: Close 256 All b737 co-ords are done @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/190 (by Frank) 20:54:25 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #256 (Closed): B737 Co-ord File @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/256#change-533 (by Frank) 20:54:25 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 191: Updated 737-100 Nfo Speed @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/191 (by Beardie27) 21:41:14 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 192: Added All 737 Info to CT @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/192 (by Beardie27) 21:41:14 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #261: Add 737 Costs to Coding Table @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/261 (by Beardie27) 21:41:14 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #261 (Assigned): Add 737 Costs to Coding Table @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/261#change-534 (by Beardie27) 22:13:53 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 193: Close 246 Basic 737-200 nfo @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/193 (by Frank) 22:13:53 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #246 (Closed): Boeing 737-200 Nfo @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/246#change-535 (by Frank) 22:13:53 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 194: Added planes to 7F_english @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/194 (by Frank) 22:13:53 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #262: 737-200 pcx files @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/262 (by Frank) 22:38:47 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 195: Close #262 - All 737-200 pcx files created @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/195 (by Beardie27) 22:38:47 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #262 (Closed): 737-200 pcx files @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/262#change-536 (by Beardie27) 22:38:47 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 196: Updated 737-200 nfo @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/196 (by Frank) 22:38:47 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 197: Updated 7F_english and 00hearder with new info @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/197 (by Beardie27) 22:38:51 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 198: Changes to 737-200 nfo @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/198 (by Frank) 22:58:45 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 199: Added Correct Files name @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/199 (by Frank) 22:58:45 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 200: Changes to 737-200 nfo @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/200 (by Frank) 22:58:45 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #263: 737-100 Lufthansa Flashing Nose @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/263 (by Frank) 22:58:45 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - was.grf @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/200/was.grf (by Beardie27) 22:58:49 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #264: 737-100 PEOPLExpress Flashes @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/264 (by Frank) 22:58:52 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #259 (Closed): US Air 737-400 @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/259#change-537 (by FaddyPainter) 23:34:01 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #265: 737-200 EasyJet Flashes @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/265 (by Frank) 23:34:01 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #266: Acceleration needed for all Planes @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/266 (by Frank) 23:34:01 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 201: Added USAirways 737-400 png @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/201 (by Beardie27) 23:34:01 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 202: Acceleration to A380-800 nfo @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/202 (by Frank)