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(Usage: 61M) 01:33:25 <Brot6> I'm having an emotional outburst!! 06:43:10 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:53:59 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:54:01 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 06:54:29 <DJNekkid> good morning and hello :) 06:54:59 <planetmaker> moin DJNekkid :) 06:55:05 <planetmaker> welcome back in the North :P 06:55:12 <DJNekkid> hehe :) indeed 06:55:42 <planetmaker> you may want to test the new renum and grfcodec versions I compiled: 06:55:56 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/bundles/grfdev 06:56:51 <DJNekkid> hold on :) 06:57:20 <planetmaker> I'm off for a bit. 06:59:58 <DJNekkid> ehm 07:00:08 <DJNekkid> why is renum 2,75mb now, and not like 123kb`? 07:00:29 <DJNekkid> and grfcodec 141kb vs 78kb ... 07:00:35 <DJNekkid> not that much diff, but the first one is quite wierd? 07:01:28 <DJNekkid> and renum dont take the dutchdj.nfo... 07:04:59 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Dutch Train Set - Revision 20: mainly added the 1600 and ddar (more or less c/p from the original) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrainset/repository/revisions/20 (by DJ Nekkid) 07:24:41 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:29:46 <DJNekkid> btw, grfcoded works 07:36:01 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 07:41:06 *** yorick has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:55:10 <yorick> Ammler: the server no longer accepts my key? 07:56:22 <yorick> or I used the wrong login... 08:05:50 <yorick> it just displays a black screen and says "Server unexpectedly closed network connection" after I tried to login a couple of times 08:09:30 <Ammler> morning yorick 08:09:41 <yorick> morning :-) 08:10:04 <Ammler> as I said, you need first to register at the devzone 08:10:09 <yorick> I did! 08:11:35 <yorick> it does not like connections anymore :( 08:12:33 <Ammler> hmm, it might have banned your ip after failed connections 08:13:13 <Ammler> beardie should tell us, that he wants you as dev. 08:17:49 <Ammler> # DenyHosts: Tue Jun 30 09:55:36 2009 | ALL: 85.146.77.160 08:19:50 <yorick> meh, doesn't it automatically unban? 08:20:31 <Ammler> no, but I will remove it again 08:20:50 <yorick> btw, is my key still somewhere? 08:21:00 <planetmaker> DJNekkid, of the exe files changed due to different ways to build it. 08:21:16 <planetmaker> especially renum failed to remove some debugging symbols. But it doesn't hurt. 08:22:02 <planetmaker> DJNekkid, and "doesn't take dutchdj.nfo" is no bug or error report. 08:22:18 <planetmaker> most probable it's a short coming of the dutch set, though :) 08:22:34 <planetmaker> I tested it with firs and 2cc and opengfx and it works fine. 08:24:57 <planetmaker> yorick, your public key is still on our server. Just not active. 08:25:05 <yorick> ok 08:25:15 <Ammler> yorick: removed, but don't try again, before you are added to the project ;-) 08:25:44 <yorick> k 08:40:36 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Bug #289: compile warnings in changeset: 12509:e928e36261c2 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/289 (by planetmaker) 08:53:56 <DJNekkid> planetmaker: it saied something like: "Does not appear to be an NFO file" 08:54:22 <planetmaker> that's not a renum error. But a dutchset error. 08:54:49 <DJNekkid> hmm... 08:54:51 <DJNekkid> wierd 08:55:04 <DJNekkid> older renums work :p 08:55:25 <planetmaker> he... 08:55:31 <planetmaker> hm... how do I build the dutch set? 08:56:18 <DJNekkid> i found the "error" :) 08:56:30 <DJNekkid> it lacked some of the comments in the beginning 08:56:30 <DJNekkid> the .bat-file :p 08:57:36 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12510: [IS] Silence some compile warnings. This partially fixes... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/12510 (by planetmaker) 08:57:41 * yorick dislikes bat files 08:58:12 <planetmaker> DJNekkid, I expected nothing else actually :) 09:00:21 <DJNekkid> and whats wrong with batfiles? 09:01:00 <Ammler> never tried them on wine 09:03:14 <planetmaker> DJNekkid, they're not cross-platform. 09:03:52 <yorick> and I don't have an x:/ drive :D 09:04:53 *** DJ_Nekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:06:22 <planetmaker> that's what makefile.local is for. 09:08:39 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 09:13:57 <yorick> ammler: beardie added me 09:14:38 *** Beardie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:20:39 <yorick> DJ_Nekkid: renum.exe -k -w 141 -w 172 -w 94 -w 97 was.nfo <-- what are all those parameters? 09:21:17 <Hirundo> does renum.exe have a -help option, or something similar? 09:21:24 <yorick> yes 09:21:42 <yorick> but the numbers are not in it 09:21:44 <planetmaker> yorick, use the readme which comes along with it. 09:21:54 <planetmaker> yes. I didn't pack that :P 09:23:50 <Beardie> hello i just did a pull i got a a KDiff3 file opened whats this? 09:23:59 <yorick> start . 09:24:01 <yorick> meh 09:24:25 <Beardie> ? 09:24:31 <yorick> wrong tab 09:24:45 <yorick> planetmaker: it's not in th readme 09:24:46 <Hirundo> did you just hg pull or did you specify some additional options? 09:24:53 <Beardie> just hg pull -u 09:24:59 <Beardie> i havn't pulled in a hwile 09:25:06 <Beardie> franks beeing working on it alot 09:25:26 <Hirundo> the update conflicts between the remote changes and your local changes 09:25:45 <Hirundo> with kdiff3 you can fix that by performing a 3-way merge 09:25:46 <Beardie> so i forgot to push at one point 09:26:27 <Beardie> ok i see i have three windows 09:26:39 <Beardie> showing three different version on 737-100.nfo 09:26:50 <Beardie> the second and third line seem to bee differetn on all 09:27:04 <planetmaker> and it's now up to you to decide which shall be the result. Which may need some manual editing. 09:28:15 <Beardie> great becuase i don;t know which one is right 09:28:21 <planetmaker> hehe :) 09:28:43 <Beardie> why are there three versions 09:29:01 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12511: [IS] Fix: [Bug #289] missing return statement in smallma... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/12511 (by Hirundo) 09:29:01 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Bug #289 (Closed): compile warnings in changeset: 12509:e928e36261c2 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/289#change-594 (by Hirundo) 09:29:04 <Ammler> yorick: added your key 09:29:15 <DJ_Nekkid> -k = "new file" or soemthing, -w 141, 172, 94 and 97 are some warning supressions 09:29:23 <yorick> Ammler: so I can ssh with my name to your server? 09:29:39 <Ammler> no 09:29:52 <Ammler> you can clone/pull/push with ssh 09:30:26 <Ammler> and please respect the rules, only write to repos, you are dev of. 09:30:51 <yorick> will do 09:31:06 <Ammler> try to clone the was repo now, so we see, if it works 09:31:10 <yorick> and my login name is just yorick? 09:31:27 <Ammler> you don't have a login 09:31:37 <Ammler> the user name is ottdc 09:31:52 <yorick> I'll pull 09:32:16 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/Using_TortoiseHg_(Windows) 09:32:21 <yorick> pulling from ssh://ottdc@mz.openttdcoop.org/hg-repos/worldairlineset 09:32:24 <yorick> searching for changes 09:32:27 <yorick> no changes found 09:32:29 <yorick> :) 09:32:35 <yorick> and no tortoiseHg :) 09:32:53 <Ammler> ok, seems working. 09:33:09 <Beardie> Ammler: i deleted a file in my repo beucase i had edited it and the one on the repo was newer and better, how do i get the one on the repo. 09:33:10 <Ammler> wel, the guides do also support command line commands 09:33:34 <yorick> do I need to set a push username? 09:33:37 <Ammler> Beardie: you have it local, still 09:33:39 <Ammler> hg revert 09:33:50 <Ammler> (just not in your woking copy) 09:33:55 <Beardie> Ammler:no 09:33:57 <Ammler> yorick: I would 09:34:10 <Ammler> thell pull :-) 09:34:14 <Ammler> then* 09:34:27 <Beardie> That doesn't put the missing file on my comp 09:34:55 <Ammler> hg st is empty? 09:34:57 <yorick> pull + up 09:35:41 <DJ_Nekkid> Beardie: use the website and download it manually :p 09:35:45 <Beardie> hg st = !sprites/nfo/boeing/737-100.nfo 09:35:57 <Ammler> DJ_Nekkid: don't tell such crap :P 09:35:58 <Beardie> thats the file i want 09:35:59 <yorick> try hg up 09:36:03 <planetmaker> Beardie, hg revert --all & hg up 09:36:11 <Beardie> thanks plantmaker 09:36:19 <yorick> hg revert reverts all local changes 09:36:23 <planetmaker> yes. 09:36:24 <yorick> plantmaker :D 09:36:24 <Beardie> hg up did it 09:36:31 <Ammler> DJ_Nekkid: they might believe you ;-) 09:36:39 <Beardie> actaully DJ 09:36:42 <Beardie> i did that 09:36:51 <Beardie> and i opened the NFO file and it was ll rubbish 09:36:55 <Beardie> made no sense 09:36:55 <yorick> I can't even tell freenode/#windows users to do format C:/ :( 09:37:12 <yorick> they kicked me :-) 09:37:26 <Ammler> there is a windows irc channel? 09:37:30 <Ammler> don't they use msn? 09:37:36 <Hirundo> They do 09:37:38 <Beardie> O DJNekkid i have a question 09:37:45 <Ammler> (only ;-) 09:37:50 <yorick> Ammler: there is probably a bot they use 09:37:50 <Hirundo> because MSN is much more secure than IRC ;) 09:37:52 <yorick> :-) 09:38:08 <Beardie> i have a plane where the model life is shorter than the vehicle life though it last wat long than it should 09:38:12 <Ammler> Hirundo: not, if we talk together 09:38:24 <Ammler> our connections are 100% ssl 09:38:33 <yorick> so is mine :) 09:38:41 <yorick> Beardie: repeat, this time making sense please? 09:38:49 * Hirundo buys Ammler a new sarcasm detector 09:39:05 <Ammler> hmm 09:39:12 <Ammler> Hirundo: I don't know msn :P 09:39:23 <Ammler> I just know, it is from windows 09:39:41 <Ammler> so it isn't crypted? 09:39:41 <Beardie> i have a plane where the model life is shorter than the vehicle life, as a result the plane seems to be avaliable way past its model life. 09:39:43 <yorick> it is that thing where people sign in with their hotmail thing and then they send things to eachother 09:40:01 <yorick> Beardie: are you sure you did it correct? 09:40:19 <Ammler> well, I have some msn contacts in my Kopete ;-) 09:40:27 <Beardie> yes we have coded about 15 planes its just this 737-100 09:40:28 <yorick> else, look @ bugs.openttd.org and else file a bug 09:41:23 <Beardie> well i can;t check it until i make some pcx files be back in a bit lol 09:41:48 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 12512: [IS] Codechange: some signed variables made unsigned in ... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/12512 (by Hirundo) 09:42:10 <Hirundo> I hope this triggers no new warnings ^^ 09:42:44 <yorick> Beardie: rename the broken boeing nfos to nfo.bak 09:43:25 <yorick> beardie: do you have make? 09:43:26 <Beardie> well i shall kep that in mind for the future yorick but at the moment i ma sorting the pcx files 09:43:35 <yorick> k 09:47:27 <yorick> Beardie: renum gives some errors? 09:48:09 <yorick> 2 on the concorde 09:48:45 <Beardie> really? 09:49:01 <Beardie> have you seen our issues page yorick? 09:49:49 <Beardie> thats a simple error onf ranks part it needs to 05 on both account not 07 09:49:54 <Beardie> on franks* 09:50:12 <Beardie> i'll fix it in a minute 09:50:44 <yorick> ah, I see 09:51:35 <Beardie> unless you want to fix it? 09:51:52 <yorick> mhm 09:51:57 <yorick> and lots of warnings 09:52:25 <Beardie> ues thats to do with the take of and landing sprites, that what you mean? 09:52:28 <Beardie> yes* 09:53:34 <yorick> ok, now it fails on the warnings 09:54:54 <Beardie> fails? 09:54:57 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 249: Fixed #272 - Added7 Basic 737-300 pcx Files @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/249 (by Beardie27) 09:54:57 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #272 (Closed): 737-300 pcx files @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/272#change-595 (by Beardie27) 09:54:59 <yorick> Beardie: so what issue is it? 09:55:11 <Beardie> which one the concorde error? 09:55:14 <yorick> yes 09:55:18 <Beardie> i actaully don;t think there is one 09:55:25 <yorick> ok 09:55:48 <Beardie> i think you just discovered a little error frank made 09:56:21 <Beardie> make sure you pull before pushinggggggg 09:56:40 * yorick pushes 09:56:45 <Beardie> lol 09:56:48 <yorick> remote: Thanks for the push, DevZone will be updated. :-) 09:56:56 <Beardie> indeed it will 09:57:29 <yorick> btw, why did you commit r137 with date 10-07-2009 09:57:43 <Beardie> haha 09:57:44 <Beardie> well 09:57:51 <Beardie> my computer had a lovely error 09:57:58 <Beardie> i thought it was the 10th july 09:58:09 <Beardie> i did one push during this time 09:58:12 <yorick> now it keeps being on the top 09:58:15 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 250: Fixed concorde errors @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/250 (by yorick) 09:58:21 <Ammler> and no, we can't changesets properities 09:58:22 <Beardie> and its stuck there unil the 10th of july 09:58:32 <Ammler> but we could strip it and recommit 09:58:44 <Ammler> change* 09:58:47 <Beardie> well ammler the file in that commit i don;t want in the repo 09:59:03 <Ammler> then just strip? 09:59:14 <Beardie> well i don;t know how 09:59:24 <yorick> everyone will have to strip locally 09:59:34 <Beardie> its not on anyone comps yorick 09:59:42 <yorick> the changeset is 09:59:51 <Beardie> emmm 09:59:54 <Ammler> yorick: shouldn't matter 10:00:14 <Beardie> it was a added file by me 10:00:24 <yorick> Ammler: doesn't it check of the changesets are about the same? 10:00:29 <yorick> if* 10:01:18 <yorick> Ammler: dev.openttdcoop.org is a bit slow? 10:03:54 <Ammler> no, it is very fast :P 10:04:05 <Brot6> is2: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/OpenTTD/infrastructure-sharing/ initiated. 10:04:07 <Ammler> if you compare with trac that is ;-) 10:04:12 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 251: Fixed #273 - Added 4 737-400 pcx Files @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/251 (by Beardie27) 10:04:12 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #273 (Closed): 737-400 pcx @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/273#change-596 (by Beardie27) 10:04:31 <DJ_Nekkid> my god what a heat! 10:04:37 <DJ_Nekkid> mallorca were cooler then this... 10:05:03 <Ammler> :-P 10:05:33 <Beardie> its on the brink of raining here 10:08:24 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 252: Fixed #282 - Added 3 737-500 pcx Files @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/252 (by Beardie27) 10:08:24 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #282 (Closed): 737-500 pcx files @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/282#change-597 (by Beardie27) 10:10:37 <Ammler> well, the repo could sort with revs 10:11:32 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 253: Fixed #283 - Added 2 737-600 pcx Files @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/253 (by Beardie27) 10:11:32 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #283 (Closed): 737-600 pcx files @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/283#change-598 (by Beardie27) 10:12:09 <Ammler> planetmaker: lol 10:12:21 <Ammler> you removed the channel limiter without -l :-) 10:12:26 <Ammler> @op 10:12:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Ammler 10:12:38 *** DJ_Nekkid has quit IRC 10:12:48 *** Ammler sets mode: -l 10:12:53 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:13:08 *** Ammler sets mode: +o Webster 10:13:18 <Ammler> @deop 10:13:18 *** Webster sets mode: -o Ammler 10:13:49 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 254: Fixed #286 - Added 3 737-700 pcx Files @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/254 (by Beardie27) 10:13:49 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #286 (Closed): 737-700 pcx files @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/286#change-599 (by Beardie27) 10:16:16 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 255: Fixed #287 - added 4 737-800 pcx Files @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/255 (by Beardie27) 10:16:16 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #287 (Closed): 737-800 pcx files @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/287#change-600 (by Beardie27) 10:17:29 <Beardie> Yorick? 10:17:36 <yorick> Beardie? 10:18:00 <Beardie> i got a error stating : Sprite y extends beyond end of PCX file 10:18:12 <yorick> your coordinates are wrong then 10:18:21 <Beardie> on the 737-600 10:18:24 <Beardie> at one point 10:18:32 <Beardie> ok i thought so thanks for the second opinion lol 10:18:43 <yorick> or your pcx is broken 10:20:02 <Beardie> why would it be broken? 10:20:09 <Beardie> i just made it 10 minutes ago 10:20:17 <yorick> I dunno 10:20:26 <Beardie> **File has 165 lines, sprite wants 135...170 10:20:32 <Beardie> it says that aswell 10:22:20 <yorick> huh? 10:22:24 <yorick> renum or grfcodec? 10:23:27 <Beardie> renum says nothing 10:23:36 <Beardie> batch file says this 10:23:44 <yorick> hmm, ask DJNekkid then ;) 10:24:03 <DJNekkid> if its not renum its grfcodec 10:24:16 <Beardie> and it says this becuase...... 10:25:08 <DJNekkid> because the file is 165 tall, and you want a sprite that starts at 135, and that is 45 tall (or whatever 170-135 is) 10:25:27 <Beardie> i see 10:25:32 <Beardie> b737-600 10:25:35 <DJNekkid> and btw, you want your pcx files to have length and width that is in a power of 4 10:25:36 <Beardie> let me have a look 10:25:44 <DJNekkid> or else the sprites might end up scewed 10:25:52 <Beardie> ? 10:26:08 <Beardie> there has to be a giant white area? 10:26:32 <DJNekkid> basicly 10:26:38 <Beardie> <<beardie not impressed 10:26:51 <Beardie> how you do the star message yorick? 10:27:01 <Beardie> you telling me this now DJ? 10:27:02 * DJNekkid stuff ? 10:27:08 <Beardie> yes that 10:27:09 <yorick> /me 10:27:13 <yorick> /me does 10:27:14 * yorick does 10:27:15 * Beardie Beardie 10:27:18 <Beardie> ok 10:27:34 <Beardie> back on topic you telling me now DJ? 10:27:40 <Beardie> after i have spent hours making pcx files 10:27:50 <Beardie> i just spent last 30 minutes makign some as well 10:28:14 <Beardie> *key in the mood 10:28:32 * Beardie Beardie Not Impressed 10:28:47 <Beardie> fail lol 10:29:18 <yorick> Beardie fial 10:29:30 <yorick> and you have a square face 10:29:41 <Beardie> anad a bearded one 10:30:13 <yorick> you have a face on your beard! 10:31:36 <Beardie> just like Chuck Norris 10:35:46 <Beardie> What the standard size of a GRF? 10:35:58 <yorick> There is no chin behind Chuck Norris' beard. There is only another fist.! 10:36:08 <Beardie> lol 10:36:12 <yorick> Beardie: anywhere between some 50kb and 3mb 10:37:15 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 256: Fixed B737-600 Sprite Co-ord Error @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/256 (by Beardie27) 10:38:39 <yorick> beardie: would you like me to translate your strings into dutch? 10:38:47 <Beardie> why? 10:39:03 <yorick> because then I have something to do 10:39:08 <Beardie> lol 10:39:11 <Beardie> but i am not dutch 10:39:17 <yorick> yes, but I am 10:39:17 <Beardie> i am not going to understand it 10:39:20 <Beardie> lol 10:39:24 <yorick> you don't need to 10:40:05 <Beardie> ok but can you not look at why the 737-100 doesn't expire on the correct date? 10:40:13 <planetmaker> Beardie, look at e.g. how the 2cctrainset has done the translations 10:40:25 <planetmaker> Do it the same way and having translations is easy as pie. 10:40:40 <planetmaker> cluttering it all over the place is a bad design choice 10:40:46 <planetmaker> (dunno how you do it, just telling) 10:40:59 <Beardie> well yorick can do i lol 10:41:03 <Beardie> he volneteered 10:41:10 <Beardie> also add a issue for it as a feature 10:41:43 <Beardie> i see how 2cc have done it 10:41:45 <yorick> hmm, should I translate "red meatball"? 10:42:20 <Beardie> http://redmine.ammler.ch/projects/2cctrainset/repository/entry/sprites/nfo/strings/howto_languages.txt 10:42:22 <Beardie> lol 10:42:32 <Beardie> emm not to sure 10:45:55 <yorick> hmm, why B6 10:46:09 <planetmaker> yorick, read the newgrf specs 10:46:17 <planetmaker> :) 10:46:25 <planetmaker> it's the language ID 10:46:39 <yorick> oh, bit 7 set 10:46:55 <planetmaker> mind that you understand bit 7. It MUST NOT be in all strings. 10:47:40 <yorick> oh, that way 10:48:01 <yorick> btw, sould I translate the airliner names? 10:48:42 <yorick> or only the ones that have a dutch name 10:49:23 <yorick> or...nvm 10:49:34 <yorick> not really much to be translated 10:52:32 <Beardie> lol 10:53:15 <Beardie> well just think which ones you would refer to in dutch and which airliners you would refer to in english 10:56:45 <yorick> I'll comment out the ones that I haven't translated 10:57:36 <yorick> http://pastebin.com/d6c86670 <-- is that ok, I added the header to the english ones too 10:58:33 <yorick> I translated 9 :D 11:06:57 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:09:42 <yorick> heh, it works :) 11:11:36 <Beardie> looking now :) 11:11:53 <yorick> I'll commit 11:12:00 <Beardie> why they all have // in front? 11:12:13 <Beardie> thats for commenting? 11:12:30 <yorick> they don't need to be translated 11:12:34 <Beardie> o they the ones you havn't translated 11:12:43 <Beardie> so it will just pick up on the ones that do 11:12:44 <yorick> and ottd doesn't need to load them 11:12:49 <Beardie> ok cool 11:13:35 <yorick> push? 11:14:00 <Beardie> sure :) 11:15:10 <yorick> k, pushed 11:16:33 <yorick> and my makefile seems to work, too :) 11:16:43 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 257: Add dutch translation @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/257 (by yorick) 11:16:54 <Beardie> good 11:16:55 *** Ammler has quit IRC 11:17:19 <Beardie> i am just sorting out the 737-100 allignment 11:17:59 <DJNekkid> i.e. the borinbg parts`` 11:18:01 <DJNekkid> `+? 11:18:36 <yorick> ` 11:18:49 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:18:57 * yorick goes lunch 11:19:48 * Beardie does the same 11:23:14 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 258: Fixed #258 - Fixed 737 Sprite Co-ord Allignment @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/258 (by Beardie27) 11:23:14 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #258 (Closed): Fix 737-100 Allignment @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/258#change-601 (by Beardie27) 11:25:50 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 11:33:12 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:37:59 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 11:43:26 <yorick> back 11:51:44 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:04:17 <Beardie> back 12:05:09 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:05:42 <Beardie> what you up to yorick ? 12:06:53 <yorick> see msn ;) 12:15:35 <yorick> pushed 12:17:38 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 259: Change description to include nice colours and plane images @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/259 (by yorick) 12:21:47 <yorick> Beardie: do you have a compile environment? 12:26:10 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:26:36 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 12:27:54 <Beardie> explain lol 12:29:03 <yorick> it's something you can use to make stuff 12:29:16 <yorick> like openttd 12:29:19 <yorick> but also grfs 12:31:31 <Beardie> well i don;t have one 12:31:38 <yorick> ok 12:31:51 <Beardie> we have nfos and pcxs we batch it and its made 12:36:58 <Beardie> why do we need one? 12:37:23 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/Welcome 12:37:34 <yorick> it can do nice stuff 12:37:34 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/Setting_up_a_Compile_Environment_(Windows) 12:37:54 <planetmaker> Beardie, actually I'd recommend you to copy the Makefile* files from firs and adapt Makefile.config to your needs. 12:38:30 <planetmaker> but it would require every windows user to install MinGW / MSys on his/her system 12:38:43 <Beardie> and i don't even have makefile on my comp 12:39:02 <planetmaker> otoh though it would ensure that every person who checks out the repo can make the grf. 12:39:16 <planetmaker> Beardie, that's why you need MinGW/MSys 12:39:56 <Ammler> everything very well documented on the devzone guide 12:40:07 <planetmaker> :) 12:40:18 <Ammler> thanks to pm and foobar :-) 12:40:19 <planetmaker> The firs Makefiles are meanwhile the best documented, too IMO 12:41:03 * Beardie is slightly confused 12:41:19 <yorick> mission accomplished! 12:41:35 <Beardie> lol? 12:42:17 * Beardie is more confused 12:44:19 <Beardie> Btw Ammeler how do i strip this revision i made in teh future 12:44:58 <Beardie> Ammler* 12:44:59 <Ammler> Beardie: you can't, yet. 12:45:13 <Beardie> ok 12:45:22 <Ammler> but I could do it for you 12:45:32 <Ammler> I would just need the rev/hash 12:45:34 <Beardie> now? 12:46:44 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:47:20 <Beardie> also whats this thing about where if i say your name it alerts you? 12:47:32 *** Beardie has quit IRC 12:47:38 <yorick> highlight 12:47:48 <yorick> huh? 12:47:58 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 12:47:58 *** Beardie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:48:05 <yorick> oh there 12:48:11 <yorick> highlight 12:48:24 <Beardie> highlight? 12:49:12 <yorick> ys 12:50:17 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:50:47 <Beardie> installing MinGW now 12:50:52 <planetmaker> you're have a bit of surreal conversation, you two :) 12:51:21 <Beardie> lol 12:51:21 <yorick> where? 12:51:29 <Beardie> where? 12:51:31 <Beardie> to ym comp 12:51:34 <Beardie> my* 12:51:36 <Beardie> thats where 12:51:38 <yorick> fish! 12:51:50 <Beardie> cod? 12:51:51 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 260: Added basic Cost Factor and Running Costs for 737-500 and 737... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/260 (by Beardie27) 12:51:57 <yorick> COD, where! 12:52:10 <Beardie> installed on my X Drive 12:52:20 <Beardie> Got to love Call Of Duty 12:52:20 <yorick> ok 12:52:38 <Beardie> COD on x Drive 12:52:47 <planetmaker> uh... Beardie but you read the install guide to MinGW which talks about deviating from the default path? 12:52:56 <Beardie> yes 12:53:01 <Beardie> to somthing with no spaces 12:53:17 <Beardie> C:\dev\mingw 12:53:33 <Beardie> thats where it is 12:53:33 * yorick has D:/mingw 12:54:01 <Beardie> sorry yes forward on back slashes 12:54:05 <Beardie> not* 12:54:18 <planetmaker> doesn't matter on windows command line 12:54:27 <Beardie> really? wow 12:54:30 <planetmaker> matters for some commands, though 12:56:46 <yorick> $(Q)$(PP) $(CFLAGS) "$<" | sed -e '/^#/d' - '/^$$/d' > $@ :) 12:56:49 <Beardie> ? 12:57:07 <yorick> sense, who needs sense... 12:57:28 <planetmaker> hehe :) 12:57:40 <Beardie> c:/foo/bar ????? 12:57:44 <yorick> omg, it doesn't work... 12:58:12 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 12:58:24 <Beardie> do i ahve to type c:/dev/mingw at this point? 12:58:35 <Beardie> what does foo and bar represent? 12:58:46 <planetmaker> Beardie, ? 12:58:59 <Beardie> installing Minimal Systems 12:59:10 <Beardie> need the directory of MinGW 12:59:13 <planetmaker> I noticed. 12:59:21 <yorick> yes 12:59:24 <Beardie> ok 12:59:26 <yorick> you need to install mingw first 12:59:33 <yorick> or change your fstabs later 12:59:43 <Beardie> i have mingw installer 12:59:44 <planetmaker> if you installed it to c:/dev/mingw that's your path 12:59:49 <Beardie> installed* 12:59:54 <Beardie> ok 13:00:05 <yorick> you can also run the postinstall again 13:01:08 <Beardie> well its ok 13:03:32 <yorick> ooh, it works :) 13:04:02 <yorick> one step closer to becoming the mightiest man of the world 13:05:19 <Beardie> what you doing? 13:05:36 <yorick> I'm making my makefile more flexible 13:05:46 <yorick> because it would be too easy to copy the firs one 13:06:14 <Beardie> ok 13:11:08 <Beardie> done i think 13:11:16 <Beardie> well i have added the paths in 13:12:15 <yorick> ooh, 4208 sprits 13:12:17 <Beardie> yorick ? 13:12:21 <Beardie> lol 13:12:22 <yorick> Beardie ? 13:12:25 <yorick> sprites* 13:12:32 <Beardie> i have done all the stuff on that page 13:12:43 <Beardie> what nexy? 13:12:51 <yorick> click msys.bat 13:13:13 <Beardie> yep 13:13:38 <Ammler> well, actually, you don't need to start the msys console, afaik. 13:13:54 <Beardie> lol 13:14:08 <yorick> Ammler: yes, but it's helpful in testing if it works 13:14:17 <yorick> Beardie: what does gcc -v do? 13:14:30 <Ammler> ok, indeed. 13:14:36 <Beardie> type "ggc -v" 13:14:38 <Beardie> one sec 13:14:40 <yorick> no 13:14:41 <yorick> gcc -v 13:14:42 <planetmaker> yorick, the usual makefile can just be called from the windows command line 13:14:48 <Beardie> yes i know without "" 13:14:50 <planetmaker> a simple make will give you all the info you need 13:15:06 <yorick> huh? 13:15:27 <Beardie> ggc -v gives me command not foud 13:15:36 <yorick> gcc -v 13:15:38 <yorick> not ggc -v 13:15:45 <Beardie> sorry 13:16:00 <Beardie> lots of info 13:16:09 <yorick> last line? 13:16:25 <Beardie> gcc version 3.4.5 (nigw-vista special r3) 13:16:33 <Beardie> ningw* 13:16:37 <yorick> mingw* 13:16:39 <yorick> k 13:16:42 <yorick> you got the old one 13:16:45 <planetmaker> ? 13:16:50 <planetmaker> that version is fine. 13:17:03 <yorick> planetmaker: they released gcc 4.4 stable last week 13:17:11 <Beardie> lol ming on the 19" monitor and ning on the 26" monitor 13:17:12 <planetmaker> and it's afaik the latest stable minGW release. 13:17:38 <Ammler> yorick: keep it simple :-) 13:17:55 <planetmaker> nothing else is needed for the sake of pre-processing nfo files. 13:18:00 <planetmaker> Not even for compiling openttd. 13:18:03 <yorick> :D true 13:18:13 <Beardie> so what next??? 13:18:20 <planetmaker> Only if you want to compile mac binaries which utilize boost you need it :) 13:18:36 <planetmaker> (or a svn snapshot thereof) 13:18:37 <Beardie> don;t think i will be doing that lol 13:18:37 <yorick> planetmaker: boost worked fine on 3.4.5 13:18:52 <planetmaker> yorick, I talked of _mac_ 13:18:57 <yorick> Beardie: try "hg version" 13:18:58 <yorick> ok 13:19:06 <yorick> mac doesn't have mingw ;) 13:19:09 <planetmaker> the correspoinding mac binaries are broken in that respect. 13:19:19 <planetmaker> no. But gcc 13:19:27 <Beardie> hg version gives me 13:19:28 <planetmaker> and my mac has mingw :P 13:19:35 <Beardie> Version 1.2.1 13:19:41 <planetmaker> that's good 13:19:42 <yorick> ok, so it works :) 13:19:55 <Beardie> good 13:19:57 <yorick> you know how to use cd 13:20:03 <yorick> then cd to your was directory 13:20:13 <yorick> I guess 13:20:30 <Beardie> well i need the full address 13:21:19 <Beardie> yorick 13:21:21 <Beardie> i can't 13:21:27 <yorick> no 13:21:31 <yorick> ../ = upper dir 13:21:35 <yorick> ls = list dir 13:21:46 <yorick> /c/ = c drive 13:21:49 <yorick> /x/ = x drive 13:22:01 <Beardie> ? 13:22:04 <yorick> why not? 13:22:32 <Beardie> well you amy give me what things mean, but i still don;t know who to use them 13:22:35 <Beardie> may* 13:22:41 <Beardie> how* 13:22:56 <yorick> >) 13:23:08 <planetmaker> have you ever used the command window of windows, Beardie ? 13:23:13 <Beardie> yes 13:23:26 <planetmaker> then you should know how to change directories, do you? 13:23:45 <planetmaker> and go to you was directory 13:23:56 <Beardie> well when i open cmd windoes 13:24:16 <Beardie> i am in my documents and settings/onwer folder 13:24:22 <yorick> yes 13:24:23 <planetmaker> yep 13:24:24 <Beardie> all i type is cd worldilineset 13:24:38 <planetmaker> what does dir then tell you? 13:24:38 <Beardie> worldairlineset* 13:24:47 <Beardie> well i am in that folder then 13:24:48 <yorick> so now you need to type cd "/c/documents and settings/owner.worldairlineset" 13:24:56 <yorick> /* 13:25:15 <yorick> cd "/c/documents and settings/owner/worlairlineset"* 13:25:18 <Beardie> ok 13:25:20 <planetmaker> yorick, why that? 13:25:36 <yorick> becuase documents and settings is usually on the c drive 13:25:46 <planetmaker> but if he is already there? 13:25:53 <Beardie> i am not on cmd windows 13:25:54 <yorick> mingw starts in ~ 13:26:14 <yorick> which is /msys/home 13:26:40 <Beardie> i am in my folder now :) 13:27:06 <Beardie> so what next? 13:27:14 <yorick> why can't I just specify nfo files to grfcodec... 13:27:15 <Beardie> does push and pull work from ehre i guess 13:27:21 <yorick> yes 13:27:32 <planetmaker> Beardie, visit you banking site and transfer €1000 to my account ;) 13:27:38 <planetmaker> that's next :P 13:27:42 <Beardie> cool 13:27:48 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:27:50 <Beardie> and not cool lol 13:28:12 <yorick> yes that's cool 13:28:12 <Beardie> right this is all good 13:28:18 <yorick> what's your banking site? 13:28:29 <Beardie> just how do a make the grf from this? 13:28:31 <yorick> and your password/username 13:28:36 <yorick> Beardie: does grfcodec work? 13:28:40 <planetmaker> you want to make a transfer to my account, too, yorick ? 13:28:42 <Beardie> how do i test 13:28:52 <yorick> planetmaker: no 13:28:55 <yorick> I don't even have 1000 13:29:03 <Beardie> i do and you can;t have it 13:29:12 <planetmaker> doh... :( too bad 13:29:21 <yorick> but I don't need 1000 13:29:23 <Beardie> actaully i have double that nad you still can;t have it 13:29:34 <Beardie> in english pounds 13:29:41 <yorick> I need ?100000 13:29:46 <yorick> pounds are worth nothing 13:30:11 <Beardie> pounds are worht more than euros 13:30:18 <yorick> yes 13:30:23 <yorick> euros are worth less 13:30:54 <Ammler> Schwiizer Frankä! 13:31:02 <Beardie> pounds are worth more than euros,dollers and swiss francs 13:31:17 <Ammler> :-( 13:31:17 <Beardie> i go to seiss and nearly double my money 13:31:20 <Beardie> swiss* 13:31:36 <Beardie> 1 pound = 1.78 Swiss Francs 13:31:48 <Beardie> no 1.7 13:31:50 <Beardie> 9 13:31:51 <Beardie> 1 British pound = 1.79128786 Swiss francs 13:32:36 <Beardie> anway back to using this program 13:32:54 <Beardie> yorick? 13:33:01 <yorick> ? 13:33:09 <Beardie> well i can puhs and pull and whatnot 13:33:18 <yorick> k 13:33:21 <Beardie> i need to test grefcodec you said 13:33:37 <yorick> what does "grfcodec" do 13:33:51 <yorick> and then "make -v" the first line 13:33:54 <Beardie> give me a big list 13:33:58 <Beardie> but 13:34:01 <yorick> yes, first line 13:34:10 <Beardie> grfcodec is in the worldairlineset folder 13:34:42 <planetmaker> Beardie, it's good practice to put it into some global folder and make that folder available via the paths settings as described in the mingw instructions 13:34:51 <Beardie> i know 13:34:57 <planetmaker> I have mine in c:\ottd 13:35:01 <yorick> try "start /usr/local/bin" 13:35:03 <planetmaker> and added it to the path 13:35:08 <yorick> it opens up something where you can put it 13:35:24 <planetmaker> yorick, you don't want them in unix path but in windows path 13:35:33 <yorick> no I want them in unix path! 13:35:42 <planetmaker> no. You want a bat file to find it. 13:35:46 <yorick> no I don't 13:35:55 <planetmaker> the unix will find it, if it's in the windows path, too 13:36:07 <yorick> and bat files starting from mingw will have its path too 13:36:11 <planetmaker> Beardie, sorry, don't listen to Yorick. He'll screw up your usual way :) 13:36:27 <Beardie> ???? 13:36:38 <Beardie> my GRFCodec program is in 13:36:45 <yorick> planetmaker: anything started from mingw will inherit the mingw path 13:36:49 <Beardie> C:\Dev\newgrf\bin 13:36:54 <yorick> and don't listen to me 13:37:05 <planetmaker> yorick, I know. BUT it's good practise to make it available so that his bat file can find it, too! 13:37:31 <planetmaker> without mingw and such things 13:37:46 <yorick> listen to planetmaker, beardie, he knows 13:37:54 <Beardie> ok go on plaentmaker 13:38:13 <planetmaker> well so your grfcodec and renum programmes are in c:\dev\newgrf\bin? 13:38:17 <Beardie> yes 13:38:21 <planetmaker> then add them to your windows path 13:38:24 <Beardie> like the wiki said 13:38:30 <planetmaker> and it should be settled 13:38:32 <Beardie> ok 13:38:34 <DJNekkid> omg! i think im actually laying in a pool on the ground! its completely windstill, and i bet 29-30c outside... Mallorca were colder then this last week! 13:38:41 <planetmaker> for all purposes, mingw and your bat file. 13:38:56 <Beardie> good :) 13:38:58 <planetmaker> Beardie, and possibly get the latest exe files from http://dev.openttdcoop.org/bundles/grfdev 13:39:02 <yorick> DJNekkid: and your matter of saying that is still try? 13:39:23 <yorick> dry( 13:39:26 <yorick> dry** 13:40:18 <Beardie> .tar file? 13:40:22 <Beardie> can i open them? 13:40:30 <yorick> brb 13:40:42 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 13:40:54 <Beardie> Planet maker which files am i getting here? 13:41:10 <Beardie> i kniow GRF and nforemun 13:41:42 <Beardie> but whats a .tar file? 13:41:58 <planetmaker> Beardie, it's an archive format. 13:42:03 <planetmaker> like zip, but not compressed 13:42:19 <planetmaker> the same format OpenTTD downloads from bananas 13:42:59 <Beardie> well i don;t have a program that can open them# 13:43:12 <planetmaker> Beardie, winzip? 13:43:13 <yorick> Beardie: what does tar say 13:43:31 <planetmaker> besides you usually don't want to open them :P 13:43:43 <planetmaker> or get total commander - it treats them like directories 13:43:45 <yorick> pm: mingw should include tar 13:43:51 <planetmaker> I know, yorick 13:43:55 <planetmaker> but it has not GUI 13:44:14 * Ammler doesn't like tar for single grfs 13:44:19 <Beardie> i don't have winzip 13:45:03 <planetmaker> hehe @ Ammler 13:45:18 <Beardie> wait 13:45:19 <planetmaker> I added bundle_zip for you :) 13:45:21 <Beardie> i have 7zi 13:45:24 <Beardie> 7zip* 13:45:29 <Beardie> that will open it :) 13:45:38 <Ammler> that will open everything useful 13:46:55 <Beardie> anyway i have the two latest files 13:47:03 <Beardie> in the correct folders 13:47:06 <Beardie> what next 13:47:45 <Beardie> yorick wanted to know make -v? info 13:48:08 <Beardie> CNU Make 3.81 13:48:11 <Beardie> GNU* 13:49:06 <yorick> 7zip opens some exe files too 13:49:07 <yorick> and msi 13:50:04 <Beardie> cool anyway 13:50:15 <Beardie> i installed all these programs and stuff for makefiles 13:51:54 <yorick> Beardie: where did I ask you to install anything? 13:52:12 <Beardie> emm the wiki said so 13:52:20 <Beardie> c:\dev\... 13:52:22 <yorick> ok, blame ammler :D 13:52:47 <Beardie> great 13:53:07 <Beardie> i just want to give up and go back to my old ways 13:53:20 <Beardie> me nfos, pcxs and one batch file 13:53:59 <yorick> I guess you can 13:54:05 <planetmaker> Beardie, it doesn't really help *you*, if you do it the way of a makefile 13:54:16 <yorick> until there is a makefile 13:54:20 <planetmaker> But it will greatly help *others* to contribute and build the thing 13:54:34 <planetmaker> And it would allow e.g. the devzone to build possibly a nightly. 13:54:41 <Beardie> ok thats cool 13:54:49 <Beardie> just i don't know what to do 13:54:49 <planetmaker> maybe something you might be interested in :) 13:55:02 <yorick> we can use nice preprocessor options 13:55:05 <yorick> like macros 13:55:08 <Ammler> yes, server can't use bat 13:55:17 <Beardie> cool 13:55:19 <Ammler> and won't :-) 13:55:25 <planetmaker> :) 13:55:33 <yorick> hmm, grfcodec seems to be using options 13:55:40 <yorick> -MMD -MG -MF 13:55:42 <yorick> that doesn't work 13:55:46 <Beardie> This is all very nice and all, but i havn;t a single clue in the world how to make a makefile 13:55:59 <Ammler> as planetmaker told you 13:56:03 <Ammler> copy from firs 13:56:10 <planetmaker> Beardie, have a look at the Makefiles in other projects, especially firs. 13:56:19 <planetmaker> it's the most advanced one, though 13:56:31 <planetmaker> and requires some changes to other files, too. 13:56:49 <planetmaker> though they could be kept to a minimum. 13:57:01 <planetmaker> basically the important file is Makefile.config 13:57:12 <planetmaker> There you add your grf-specific stuff. 13:57:23 <yorick> I'm making a makefile 13:57:39 <planetmaker> I feared so. 13:57:42 <Beardie> yorick you making a makefile for WAS? 13:57:48 <yorick> :D 13:58:07 <planetmaker> instead of making it compatible, I guess, it will be incompatible and feature many bashisms :P 13:58:41 <planetmaker> But it's not my work and my project :) 13:59:18 <yorick> planetmaker! I'm not that bad 13:59:48 <DJNekkid> planetmaker: how are the progress on being able to use VID_ICE3 (and stuff) going btw? 14:00:05 <planetmaker> DJNekkid, I basically need to port it to 2cctrainset. 14:00:09 <planetmaker> Firs has it. 14:00:33 <DJNekkid> oki... :) 14:00:49 <DJNekkid> so its _basicly_ done? :p 14:00:55 <planetmaker> which I used as test toy as it is not a released thingy yet and compile is fast with two pcx :) 14:01:00 <planetmaker> basically yes. 14:01:07 <planetmaker> it needs fine tuning. 14:01:41 <DJNekkid> oki... 14:01:53 <planetmaker> I hope I'll get around to implementing it soon :) 14:02:27 <DJNekkid> me2 14:02:39 <DJNekkid> plus i need to do more testning on the template file 14:02:51 <DJNekkid> it dont seem to work 100% as intended, but im _suspecting_ a bug withing ottd 14:03:23 <planetmaker> which template file? 14:03:33 <planetmaker> oh, the one for the MUs? 14:03:34 <DJNekkid> .nfo 14:03:57 <DJNekkid> yes 14:04:01 <planetmaker> oki 14:04:34 <planetmaker> well... basically I wanted to clean up the Makefile a bit more before I port it to others. But not sure how feasable that is :) 14:06:52 <Beardie> be back in a bit :D 14:08:05 <yorick> should I need to worry about dos compilation? 14:10:23 <planetmaker> you could :) 14:10:38 <planetmaker> look at the dutch station set. They do. 14:12:13 <yorick> heh, does openttd run on dos? no. it doesn't 14:12:42 <planetmaker> that's the wrong line of argument :) 14:12:42 * yorick is not going to worry about compiling compatible things for a compatibility mode 14:13:13 <planetmaker> it's not a question about the OS type, it's a question about the version of the base graphics used. 14:13:38 <yorick> openttd has that switch pallette thingy nowadays 14:15:16 <planetmaker> yes. OpenTTD. 14:15:29 <yorick> we're not supporting ttdpatch 14:15:29 <planetmaker> But it's a pain to have to do it, I guess :) 14:19:46 <Beardie> we can't really support TTDpatch when we are expecting a high amount of Vehicle IDs 14:20:09 * yorick is in doubt about stuff 14:20:18 <Beardie> which stuff 14:20:31 <yorick> should I edit in the grf revision + modified using the preprocessor flags? 14:20:45 <Beardie> o lol 14:21:39 <planetmaker> let's say: it doesn't work always 14:21:56 <planetmaker> been there. seen that. done that :P 14:22:29 <yorick> planetmaker: how would it not work? 14:22:57 <planetmaker> well... mostly the title or the description failed. 14:23:20 <planetmaker> resulting in bad NFO code. 14:23:30 <yorick> it failed like how 14:23:39 <yorick> it had a " inside? 14:24:05 <planetmaker> that, too, yes 14:24:12 <yorick> but also? 14:25:19 <planetmaker> you need to give environment vars (the rev) to GCC as a #define. Either you write a rev file or you'd need to do it differently. 14:25:40 <planetmaker> which all is longer than a short sed 14:26:04 <yorick> planetmaker: gcc -E -Drevision=$(GRF_REVISION) doesn't work? 14:27:57 <planetmaker> dunno. maybe. 14:28:45 <planetmaker> I did what works on Win/Lin/mac. 14:28:48 <planetmaker> for me 14:29:42 <Ammler> yorick: we don't use the make system that long 14:29:51 <Ammler> don't expect, everything is perfect, please. 14:30:46 <yorick> did I? 14:30:48 <Ammler> and if you have something to improve, tell it, but do allow planetmaker to decline. 14:30:55 <Ammler> :-) 14:32:42 <planetmaker> Ammler, he does :) I'm just wondering why he's completely re-inventing the wheel :) 14:35:30 <Ammler> planetmaker: that is yorick :-) 14:39:46 <Beardie> LOL 14:41:00 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:42:43 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Total Bridge Replacement Set - Bug #290: nforenum errors on many sprites @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/290 (by planetmaker) 14:43:34 <Ammler> hmm, planetmaker we should continue there :-) 14:44:01 <Ammler> maybe XeryusTC would help us 14:44:27 <XeryusTC> with the curent ps game? 14:44:31 <Ammler> :-) 14:44:38 <Ammler> no, with TBRS 14:44:49 <XeryusTC> :o 14:45:06 <XeryusTC> atm not really insterested, maybe after the weekend :o 14:45:15 <XeryusTC> although i'm quite busy then too 14:45:26 <Ammler> :-o 14:47:11 <yorick> aaaaarrrrhhhhhhgggg 14:47:18 <yorick> it refuses to quote my number 14:47:49 *** Beardie has quit IRC 14:49:04 <yorick> ooh, it works :) :) :) :) 14:54:09 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 15:04:39 <yorick> heh, could use boost.preprocessor 15:07:38 <Ammler> boost might be problematic on different systems 15:08:16 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 261: Fixed #270 - Royal Mail 737-300F No longer Flashes @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/261 (by Beardie27) 15:08:16 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #270 (Closed): 737-300F Royal Mail Flashes @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/270#change-602 (by Beardie27) 15:10:32 <yorick> mhm, but it has nice loops :) 15:13:45 <Ammler> create a example, if pm is able to run it on the mac, fine 15:14:24 <yorick> Ammler: do you know what the \wxd escape does? 15:14:28 <yorick> I can't find it anywhere 15:15:41 <Ammler> maybe it is \wxD000 ? 15:16:13 <Ammler> now, you mention it, I liked to ask DJNekkid that too. :-) 15:16:34 <yorick> ah yes 15:16:36 <yorick> :) 15:19:32 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 262: Fixed #196 - Fixed 733 and 737 Frlshing Orange 732 Fine @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/262 (by Beardie27) 15:19:32 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #196 (Closed): Fix 732 733 737 Easyjets @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/196#change-604 (by Beardie27) 15:19:32 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 263: Added 2 737-900 pcx Files @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/263 (by Beardie27) 15:19:36 <yorick> D0xx are the graphics texts used for stuff... 15:20:58 <Ammler> the lower case D is a bit confusing 15:21:23 <Ammler> it looks like the d belongs to the escape sequence 15:44:35 <DJNekkid> yes 15:44:46 <DJNekkid> it _could_ be written with a captial D 15:46:35 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:47:13 <Ammler> DJNekkid: you meant _should_ _P 15:47:36 <DJNekkid> optionally :) 15:48:13 <yorick> meh, I can't use macros to define other macros? 16:01:46 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 16:17:38 <yorick> http://pastebin.com/d54f738fb <-- new language file 16:18:02 <Brot6> OpenGFX: nightly compile not needed. (r80) 16:25:41 *** DJ_Nekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:26:28 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 16:40:41 <planetmaker> Ammler, you don't really want to make boost a pre-requisite to compile a newgrf?! 16:45:29 <yorick> nono, just boost.preprocessor 16:45:40 <yorick> and probably not even that 16:46:22 <yorick> and you people even made gcc and make a prequisite 16:46:44 <planetmaker> gcc comes with mingw. Which windows people need anyway for a makefile. 16:46:50 <yorick> yes 16:46:56 <planetmaker> And the boost pre-processor is not related to the boost c library? 16:47:02 <planetmaker> if so, it's a very bad idea. 16:47:14 <yorick> it might be a bit related 16:47:22 <planetmaker> well. It's an extra install. 16:47:26 <planetmaker> that's what counts. 16:50:51 <DJ_Nekkid> unless its a zip :) 16:51:43 <planetmaker> DJ_Nekkid, even then: why install yet another thing? 16:51:56 <DJ_Nekkid> i have absolutely no idea 16:52:01 <planetmaker> I find even MinGW actually quite a barrier for many people. 16:52:08 <DJ_Nekkid> me three 16:52:09 <DJ_Nekkid> :p 16:52:19 <planetmaker> It's not like "just drop them there and be fine" 16:52:47 <planetmaker> it would violate the KISS principle even more than we do already IMO 16:52:56 <DJ_Nekkid> KISS? 16:53:30 <planetmaker> keep it simple stupid 16:53:31 <planetmaker> :) 16:53:38 <DJ_Nekkid> indeed! 16:53:41 <DJ_Nekkid> totally agree 16:57:47 <yorick> away now 17:03:17 <Ammler> bottd is a easy preinstaller 17:09:51 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:11:18 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 17:12:40 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #291: rework cargo strings @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/291 (by foobar) 17:16:04 <planetmaker> ha, someone doesn't like my strings :P 17:16:34 <planetmaker> hm... no. I don't understand the bug report :P 17:27:15 * yorick back 17:27:33 <yorick> oh, it's foobar 17:30:21 <yorick> planetmaker: boost.preprocessor could be included too :p 17:32:17 <planetmaker> yorick, I also could be the pope. But is it included? Am I the pope? ;) 17:32:37 <yorick> we're not using it (yet) 17:35:06 <yorick> planetmaker: does the FIRS nfo do dep? 17:35:40 <planetmaker> you mean whether the makefile searches for changed dependencies? Sure 17:35:56 <yorick> yes 17:36:06 <planetmaker> as do all other makefiles... 17:36:08 <planetmaker> I made 17:36:08 <yorick> hmm, nice 17:36:24 <planetmaker> that's one of the main points for using make. 17:36:41 <yorick> my makefile does it 17:52:33 <yorick> why does it remove everything when it's done :( 17:57:25 <DJ_Nekkid> i got an idea guys, if you want "stuff, and more stuff, and even more stuff" for us windows users, make a new installer :p 17:57:56 <planetmaker> DJ_Nekkid, I don't want it :) 17:58:20 <planetmaker> And basically BuildOTTD is everything you need. And grfcodec. And nforenum. And mercurial. And... 17:58:23 <planetmaker> :P 18:01:06 <yorick> I hate installers 18:01:27 <yorick> they are always so instally 18:01:36 <Ammler> planetmaker: lol 18:01:39 <planetmaker> they are what the average user needs. 18:01:47 <Ammler> but seriously, BOTTD is easy. 18:01:47 *** FooBar_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:01:59 <Ammler> and tortoise 18:02:09 <yorick> ugh, tortoise 18:02:13 <planetmaker> that's included in mercurial or rather vice versa. 18:02:18 <Ammler> the hg version looks very nice 18:02:25 <DJ_Nekkid> im wondering 18:02:26 <planetmaker> though I didn't get a proper SVN with TortoiseSVN. Dunno why 18:02:34 <planetmaker> The hg version worked nicely. 18:02:39 <DJ_Nekkid> do i really need all the "shit" tortoise give me, or only the hg.exe ... 18:02:47 <FooBar_> tortoise hg works beautifully 18:02:49 <planetmaker> DJ_Nekkid, you need more than the exe 18:02:51 <DJ_Nekkid> hg.exe and pageant 18:02:59 <FooBar_> I'm not even using the commandline shizzle 18:03:00 <yorick> DJ_Nekkid: you need the python files 18:03:01 <planetmaker> and patch and merge and ... just keep it :) 18:03:06 <Ammler> I tried to install tortoise on my linux 18:03:08 <planetmaker> it's only a few MB 18:03:13 <yorick> or hg.exe 18:03:14 <Ammler> but it doesn't like KDE 18:03:19 <planetmaker> he 18:03:32 <FooBar_> 'only' 40 MB altogether 18:03:36 <DJ_Nekkid> the point is ... i dont mind hg and stuff, but i dont need the whole GUI-stuff 18:03:36 <yorick> patch is just included with msys 18:03:41 <Ammler> it has a plugin for GNOME Nautilus 18:03:51 <yorick> DJ_Nekkid: just install mercurial and mingw/msys then ;) 18:04:01 <DJ_Nekkid> some kind of "hg light" would be better (for me) 18:04:07 <yorick> yes 18:04:14 <yorick> it's called "normal command line hg" 18:04:44 <planetmaker> DJ_Nekkid, I don't need it either. But in times where a GB costs you like 0,10€ - do you care about 5MB? 18:05:08 <yorick> http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/ 18:05:13 <Webster> Title: Mercurial - Mercurial (at mercurial.selenic.com) 18:05:14 <yorick> planetmaker: that is a wrong argument 18:05:23 <DJ_Nekkid> planetmaker: no i dont, but i dont like too much "installed" if i dont need to 18:05:37 <DJ_Nekkid> if i can only unzip stuff or similar i prefer that 18:05:48 * yorick agrees with DJ-Nekkid 18:05:52 <planetmaker> DJ_Nekkid, true. But you have it installed. Never touch a running system and next time get plain mercurial from the link Yorick gave you 18:06:24 <yorick> I usually unzip installers too :) 18:06:44 <yorick> uniextract *O* 18:06:54 <DJ_Nekkid> i mean, the less i have to add to the register, start menu and so on... i like that.... 18:07:07 <yorick> DJ_Nekkid: http://legroom.net/software/uniextract 18:07:08 <Webster> Title: Universal Extractor | LegRoom.net (at legroom.net) 18:07:14 <yorick> best thing ever 18:07:39 <planetmaker> Best thing ever cannot be a piece of software. 18:07:55 <DJ_Nekkid> rofl! 18:07:56 <planetmaker> It can only be something I do with an attractive woman :P 18:08:01 <yorick> best piece of software ever* 18:08:03 <yorick> and not you, pm 18:08:28 <yorick> I like that a lot more if it doesn't involve you 18:08:43 <planetmaker> true. I'm not a thing. So the best thing cannot be me :) 18:08:57 <DJ_Nekkid> and sex is a thing? 18:09:06 <DJ_Nekkid> "can i have 5 sex'es please?" 18:09:16 <planetmaker> DJ_Nekkid, well... :) 18:09:20 <yorick> DJ_Nekkid: it's abstract 18:09:32 <DJ_Nekkid> sex is a feeling! 18:09:32 <planetmaker> he / she / it / generic sex A / generic sex B ? 18:10:00 <planetmaker> DJ_Nekkid, a feeling, an emotion, an activity 18:10:08 <planetmaker> Such it's not a person, so it's kind of a thing 18:10:21 <Ammler> FooBar_: the new monolev trains are very nice 18:10:22 <yorick> ah, the wonders of men 18:10:30 <yorick> I STARTED ABOUT INSTALLERS 18:10:32 <yorick> :) 18:10:48 <planetmaker> haha :) Yes. Men have devices to install bio-ware in women :P 18:10:51 <FooBar_> Ammler: yes, very nice indeed. I like them a lot 18:11:01 * planetmaker is now silent and urgently needs food. 18:11:02 <Ammler> does it hurt, they are longer then default? 18:11:39 <FooBar_> railroad vehicles are longer than plain TTD as well, so I don't think that's a problem 18:11:56 <Ammler> sometimes they do overlap a bit 18:12:29 <FooBar_> As long as they're not longer than physically possible (i.e. exactly half a tile) 18:12:41 <FooBar_> overlap? 18:12:47 <Ammler> and first time, I had to code them 100% 18:12:58 <FooBar_> are they even longer than the opengfx rail thingies then? 18:12:58 <Ammler> couldn't use the adjustments of original nfo 18:13:14 <FooBar_> use adjustment from opengfx then 18:13:20 <FooBar_> should work 18:13:24 <Ammler> hmm 18:13:56 <Ammler> well, I guess, the final adjustment is fine 18:14:39 <FooBar_> haven't tested it ingame yet, so I trust you completely on that :P 18:14:47 <Ammler> hehe, nodobdy did 18:14:53 <Ammler> around 1 or 2 downloads 18:15:17 <FooBar_> well, that's exactly the two persons that actually bugger to upgrade to monolev :P 18:15:57 <FooBar_> anyways, what's this "I don't like FooBar_" about? I appreciate to sort that out really... 18:16:13 <DJ_Nekkid> i dont like you! 18:16:16 <DJ_Nekkid> you are such a bitch! 18:16:22 <DJ_Nekkid> and ... you suck! 18:16:23 <DJ_Nekkid> and stuff! 18:16:24 <DJ_Nekkid> :p 18:16:45 <FooBar_> ah good... then I like my mx2000 code back please :P 18:17:00 <Ammler> PM from Sniper: Hi. I have a little question on you. I've already done the material on one of the sprites but now i don'ť know what to do next. Please give me advice 18:17:13 <Ammler> :-) 18:17:31 <FooBar_> next sprite maybe? 18:17:49 <Ammler> lol 18:18:00 <Ammler> why such a question? 18:18:10 <FooBar_> and why in a pm? 18:19:26 <Ammler> because it is kinda stupid question, I guess. 18:20:11 <Ammler> well, I wrote him, he should ask in public and maybe in the 32bpp 18:21:11 <FooBar_> sensible reply 18:21:18 <FooBar_> would have done the same 18:25:27 <yorick> oh these macros are lovely 19:41:45 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 81: Change: remove a few old comments mostly used for debuging and extend make... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/81 (by planetmaker) 20:26:16 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:29:52 <FooBar_> planetmaker: why is there a pcx file listed in sprites/nfo/firs.pnfo? 20:30:09 <FooBar_> And more importantly: do I need to do that as well for other pcx files? 20:37:46 <planetmaker> FooBar_: the pcx file is listed there as it's part of the newgrf 20:37:48 <planetmaker> It's not required to list them there, but it's good practise because then a re-compile will be triggered if the pcx listed there are changed, too 20:37:49 <planetmaker> that file may contain pcx files and pnfo files. All other files will be ignored :) 20:38:13 <FooBar_> ok good. Then I'll add it as well 20:38:19 <planetmaker> :) 20:38:46 <planetmaker> it also makes sure that you know what your newgrf constitutes of. 20:39:10 <FooBar_> in case my memory fails? :P 20:39:19 <planetmaker> in principle it's redundant though as it's in the nfo, too 20:40:08 <FooBar_> maybe we shouldn't call that file .pnfo, as it doesn't contain any nfo code... 20:40:32 <planetmaker> FooBar_: yes, I thought so already, too. Proposals? 20:40:55 <planetmaker> .main? 20:41:23 <FooBar_> maybe... 20:42:19 <planetmaker> otoh an argument for pnfo is: all code files which get edited are then called pnfo 20:42:20 <FooBar_> maybe even .main without a filename 20:42:29 <planetmaker> hm... 20:42:50 <planetmaker> I wouldn't want to hide the main souce file :) 20:43:06 <FooBar_> hide? 20:43:21 <FooBar_> is that what the . does? 20:43:24 <planetmaker> files which start with a dot are hidden files 20:43:28 <planetmaker> on *nix systems 20:43:36 <FooBar_> on your OS maybe... :P 20:43:41 <planetmaker> like the hidden attribute for windows 20:43:49 <FooBar_> on windows it's just a file without a filename 20:44:06 <FooBar_> on the other hand, windows doesn't like files without extensions... 20:44:25 <FooBar_> .main might be a bad idea then :) 20:44:26 <planetmaker> well. Even if not, I don't really see any advantage to give the main file of a newgrf no name. 20:44:49 <FooBar_> not even for the sake of a generic makefile? 20:44:58 <planetmaker> we could skip an extension, though. But... :) I'd like to have it the same name and some extension like the filename of the final grf 20:45:11 <planetmaker> ^^ for the sake of the generic makefile :) 20:45:20 *** yorick has quit IRC 20:45:38 <FooBar_> ok, that's fine, but I don't like a file without an extension as I can't link a default editor to that 20:45:56 <planetmaker> he :) ok, then that's an argument against that :) 20:46:02 <planetmaker> firs.list? 20:46:09 <planetmaker> as it lists all files? 20:46:17 <planetmaker> or we just keep pnfo :P 20:46:23 <FooBar_> firs.def? 20:46:26 <FooBar_> as it defines firs? 20:46:37 <planetmaker> hm.... might be an idea. 20:48:34 <FooBar_> well, let me try and get this arable farm done first before I have to do all sorts of merges that I don't fancy doing... 20:48:43 <planetmaker> :) 20:48:50 <planetmaker> I think that's nothing urgent. 20:49:07 <planetmaker> I won't commit it now. I have a number of different changes here. I'm adding the toyland trucks. 20:49:09 <FooBar_> indeed, as it works the way it is now, and that's the most important 20:49:29 <planetmaker> it's basically a beautification change :) But maybe we should make a ticket :) 20:49:31 * FooBar_ is working on firs 20:49:40 <planetmaker> he... right :P 20:49:43 <FooBar_> :) 20:49:50 <planetmaker> mixed that up :) 20:50:47 <andythenorth_> yay FooBar_ is coding ;) 20:50:58 <FooBar_> andythenorth_: yes I am indeed 20:51:29 <FooBar_> renum is still throwing all kinds of errors about invalid escape sequences though... 20:51:51 <planetmaker> FooBar_: which renum do you use? 20:52:07 <FooBar_> r2114 20:52:17 <planetmaker> I compiled the latest svn version... available at http://dev.openttdcoop.org/bundles/grfdev 20:52:20 <planetmaker> r2124 20:52:21 <FooBar_> if there's a new one I might want that... :P 20:52:27 <planetmaker> ^^ :) 20:52:31 <planetmaker> as is grfcodec 20:53:13 <planetmaker> took me a bit, but I can compile for all systems. Though mac obviously only works on my maschine :S 20:54:15 <FooBar_> same error :S 20:54:25 <planetmaker> then it's not renum :P 20:55:30 <planetmaker> FooBar_: I only get level1 warnings which can be ignored. Do you get something different? 20:56:00 <FooBar_> obviously I haven't committed what I'm getting an error on 20:56:05 <FooBar_> here's a snippet: http://pastebin.com/d515c4c15 20:56:11 <planetmaker> ok 20:56:40 <FooBar_> I think it has something to do with the \dx... 20:56:55 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #96: Sprites 4462:4465 (4) - Arctic church @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/96#change-605 (by athanasios) 20:57:39 <planetmaker> hm... I'd guess so, too. But I'm too inexperienced... 20:57:42 <planetmaker> DJ_Nekkid: ? 20:58:43 <planetmaker> FooBar_: what should that code snippet do? 20:59:04 <FooBar_> that's the action 2 for an industry tile 20:59:09 <FooBar_> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action2HousesIndustryTiles 20:59:37 <planetmaker> ok, so that's all basically one action :) 20:59:59 <FooBar_> yep 21:01:54 <FooBar_> If I do it without the escape sequence it goes without complaints. 21:02:02 <DJ_Nekkid> \dx 21:02:10 <DJ_Nekkid> doubleword size, in hex format 21:02:19 <DJ_Nekkid> \dx12345678 21:02:23 <DJ_Nekkid> insted of 21:02:31 <DJ_Nekkid> 78 56 34 12 21:02:33 <DJ_Nekkid> or something 21:03:15 <FooBar_> DJ_Nekkid: yes, but renum doesn't like it 21:03:30 <FooBar_> I had \dx80008000 21:03:53 <FooBar_> and it seems that it doesn't like \wx either 21:04:04 <DJ_Nekkid> wierd 21:04:12 <DJ_Nekkid> its never complained with me 21:04:21 <planetmaker> hm... maybe ask in the renum thread :) 21:05:43 <FooBar_> nope, only \dx seems the culprit 21:06:54 <FooBar_> yes i might do that... 21:08:08 <FooBar_> \wx8000 \wx8000 instead of \dx80008000 works without complaints :S 21:08:22 <FooBar_> let me try a stable release of renum first... 21:08:40 <DJ_Nekkid> thats wierd 21:08:52 <DJ_Nekkid> or just supress the warning :p 21:09:49 <FooBar_> it's not a warning. It's an error which comments the complete action... 21:10:19 <DJ_Nekkid> omg! 21:10:19 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 21:10:20 <FooBar_> lol... stable release of renum doesn't have the problem... 21:10:45 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:10:56 <DJ_Nekkid> i know ive used it on running cost type 21:12:37 <FooBar_> the r2123 build from here: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/bundles/grfdev/ doesn't have the problem either. And is much smaller in filesize as well... 21:12:53 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:13:49 <DJ_Nekkid> i know 21:13:52 <FooBar_> I'll be using that one until i have it committed so that someone else with a different OS can test it with the r2124 21:14:06 <DJ_Nekkid> you on windows right? 21:14:09 <FooBar_> yep 21:14:24 <andythenorth_> FooBar_: when you get to layouts on the arable farm...the graphics aren't done. I'm not planning extra tiles, but there will be additions to the current tiles. just so you know... 21:15:33 <FooBar_> andythenorth_: layouts (or rather layout) is already done, but I made the sprites extra large so that they only need to be aligned once 21:15:42 <FooBar_> grfcodec can do the actual cropping :) 21:16:14 <FooBar_> replacing some things in the pcx file should be sufficient if the sprites change 21:16:45 <FooBar_> I even wouldn't mind extra tiles, as the layout code is actually rather simple 21:17:04 <andythenorth_> k 21:17:24 <andythenorth_> well once I see it in game we might need some more 'fill' tiles around the buildings 21:17:27 <FooBar_> just make sure to create an issue if something like that needs to happen 21:17:43 <andythenorth_> I'm not hopeful on 'plantable' tiles in the near future :) 21:17:57 <FooBar_> me neither :( 21:18:06 <andythenorth_> any of us want to learn C++? 21:18:18 <FooBar_> I'm just putting regular fields around the farms for now, just to have something farm-ish 21:18:55 <andythenorth_> makes sense 21:20:02 <FooBar_> do you by any chance know anything about bounding boxes? 21:20:14 <FooBar_> I figured I needed to specify the size of it in pixels 21:20:22 <andythenorth_> FooBar_not in respect of buildings 21:20:30 <FooBar_> but then renum gave me a //!!Warning (80): Offset 13: Value of <yoff+yextent> must not exceed 0Fh. 21:20:58 <FooBar_> which is not a lot, so I'm now assuming that it's tiles instead of pixels... 21:21:24 <FooBar_> we'll just have to see what it does ingame. ctrl+b is nice 21:24:56 <FooBar_> Now grfcodec throws me a "Could not parse unquoted escape sequence.". Maybe that's what renum was trying to tell... 21:27:38 <planetmaker> hm... 21:30:04 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 264: Fixed a few Faults @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/264 (by Frank) 21:30:09 <planetmaker> FooBar_: just for me to check / recap: the latest renum and grfcodec: do they pose a problem now or not? 21:30:26 <planetmaker> I'm confused by the backlog :) 21:31:09 <FooBar_> haven't tested latest grfcodec. The grfcodec I have now tells me that I have an error in my escape sequence, so fixing that might fix the latest renum as well 21:31:18 <FooBar_> I'll let you know when I get there... 21:33:03 <FooBar_> I don't see why that latest renum is so big compared to the rest... 21:33:26 <planetmaker> FooBar_: that's a failure on my(?) part to remove the debug symbols. 21:33:29 <planetmaker> stip didn't work 21:33:33 <planetmaker> *strip 21:34:37 <planetmaker> r2124 | DaleStan | 2009-06-18 17:58:56 +0200 (Thu, 18 Jun 2009) | 1 line 21:34:39 <planetmaker> Comments not prefixed by whitespace could cause NFORenum to reject the preceding escape. (Reported by DJ_Nekkid) 21:35:38 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 265: Added 07 to ATR's @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/265 (by Frank) 21:36:13 <FooBar_> I always have a whitespace in place as I think that's good practice anyways... 21:37:17 <planetmaker> :) 21:38:38 <DJ_Nekkid> me to 21:38:46 <DJ_Nekkid> but in some way didnt i in one file 21:38:53 <DJ_Nekkid> and it reported as invalid escape 21:39:24 <FooBar_> I think this is why my escape isn't working: // Escapes: 2+ = 71 = D= = DR 2- = 70 = D+ = DF 2< = 7= = D- = DC 2> = 7! = Du* = DM 2u< = 7< = D* = DnF 2u> = 7> = Du<< = DnC 2/ = 7G = D<< = DO 2% = 7g = D& 2u/ = 7gG = D| 2u% = 7GG = Du/ 2* = 7gg = D/ 2& = 7c = Du% 2| = 7C = D% 2^ 2sto = 2s 2rst = 2r 2+ 2ror = 2rot 21:39:44 <FooBar_> that's that silly new "feature" which I don't know why we need anyways 21:40:32 <planetmaker> wth is that? 21:40:45 <Frankr> lol 21:40:53 <FooBar_> that's a new header for defining custom escape sequences 21:41:04 <planetmaker> nah... we don't need it :) 21:41:23 <FooBar_> As I understand it, the default escape sequences have been moved there as well, but not all it seems... 21:43:27 <FooBar_> only thing is that I don't understand that stuff... 21:45:12 <planetmaker> he... 21:49:39 <planetmaker> anyway... good night for today from here. 21:50:13 <andythenorth_> sorry I can't help with the escapes. probably bed time here too 21:56:13 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 22:04:05 <Brot6> opengfx: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/OpenTTD/opengfx/ initiated. 22:07:38 <Frankr> DJ_Nekkid: Are you there? 22:07:57 <DJ_Nekkid> almost not 22:08:03 <Frankr> lol 22:08:38 <Frankr> we seem to be having problems with the retirement property with the 737-100 22:09:04 <Frankr> is this property necessary 22:09:12 <DJ_Nekkid> does it retire early`? 22:09:43 <Frankr> no, the retirement is 10yrs ans the model life is 6yrs 22:10:14 <Frankr> but when we reduce it to 02 (2yrs it still doesn't do anything) 22:10:17 <DJ_Nekkid> remove the retire early property all tgether 22:10:22 <Frankr> kk 22:28:45 <Frankr> DJ_Nekkid: I am sorry i am a noob, but what does the Early Retirement thing do, Does it retire the vehicle early if it has not been used or just in general. And is it to increase the length the plane stays at a high reliability or something completely different 22:39:53 <DJ_Nekkid> the 2nd option :) 22:41:49 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 94: Feature: Arable Farm @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/94 (by foobar) 22:43:13 <Frankr> ty 22:47:48 <FooBar_> good night all! 22:47:51 *** FooBar_ has quit IRC 22:52:39 <Frankr> DJ_Nekkid: I've got it to work now, ty 22:53:54 <Frankr> increasin the retire early does wat (increase or decrease reliability) 23:14:33 *** Frankr has quit IRC 23:14:50 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:23:13 <Frankr> night buys 23:23:17 <Frankr> guys* 23:23:23 *** Frankr has left #openttdcoop.devzone