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05:28:46 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:00:09 *** ODM has quit IRC 07:34:51 <planetmaker> hm... Ammler Brot is gone :-( 07:35:27 <Ammler> did you annoy him? 07:35:39 <planetmaker> :-( I hope not... 07:35:45 <Ammler> what was happen with the web this morning? 07:36:13 <planetmaker> No idea. I cannot follow it. 07:36:19 <planetmaker> or reproduce. 07:36:29 <planetmaker> Obviously people yonder the big pont have issues. 07:37:15 <planetmaker> hm. wrong use of "yonder" :S 07:38:17 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/admin/wiki/Dev 07:38:19 <planetmaker> athanasios is impatient :-) 07:39:08 <planetmaker> :-) True 07:39:21 <Ammler> should come... 07:39:25 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:39:25 <planetmaker> I just wondered - maybe it has a reason. 07:40:19 <Ammler> I killed yesterday night the disk with a big torrent :-) 07:41:00 <Ammler> usually, the torrent client should stop and leave 1 GB free always. 07:45:25 <planetmaker> hehe :-) 07:46:24 <Ammler> I don't see, why brians server was dead this morning. 07:49:51 <planetmaker> I didn't have problems. And I don't think it was dead 07:50:08 <planetmaker> I checked at the same time Zuu checked. He had problems, I didn't have any. 07:50:33 <Ammler> according to #openttd, he hadn0t 07:50:47 <Ammler> somone else had. 07:51:07 <planetmaker> see the backlog in #openttdcoop :-) 07:54:35 <Ammler> oh, you were early around ;-) 08:35:44 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 08:35:44 *** FooBar_ has quit IRC 08:35:44 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 08:35:44 *** Ammler has quit IRC 08:35:44 *** tneo has quit IRC 08:35:44 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 08:35:44 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 08:35:45 *** Xeryus|bnc has quit IRC 08:35:45 *** Osai has quit IRC 08:36:03 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:36:03 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:36:03 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:36:03 *** FooBar_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:36:03 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:36:03 *** Xeryus|bnc has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:36:03 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:36:03 *** Osai has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:36:03 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:37:39 <planetmaker> yup. I somehow woke up early :-) 09:13:43 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:45:14 *** Irwe has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:45:42 <Irwe> planetmaker: I've PM you my sprites on the forum 10:04:09 <Brot6> opengfx: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/OpenTTD/opengfx/ initiated. 10:49:24 <planetmaker> Irwe, thanks. :-) I'll look at them tonight 10:50:00 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-ms.de/forum/showthread.php?tid=4171 <-- Ammler for what it's worth, mb transported your discussion to the German forum. For no apparent reason I see, though 10:50:02 <Webster> Title: Kosten von Erdbewegungen (at www.tt-ms.de) 11:10:49 <Irwe> what does you guys think here, should Swedish Houses be for all climates? 11:11:18 <planetmaker> I voted for all climates 11:11:32 <planetmaker> Why would you want to restrict them? 11:12:08 <planetmaker> It doesn't give anything and certainly some people might see them fit in all climates 11:12:39 <Irwe> The swedish cottages may look strange in a desert for example.. but maybe people doesn't care about that 11:13:09 <planetmaker> well. I wouldn't mind those buildings in tropical either, honestly 11:13:30 <planetmaker> It really depends, though. 11:13:58 <Irwe> I can make some play test and se how they look 11:14:03 <planetmaker> and "looking strange" is always in the eye of the beholder. In case of doubt I'm always against restrictions and leave a choice of sane grf combinations to the map / scenario maker 11:14:28 <planetmaker> If I don't like it - why should I consider my statement / taste universal? 11:14:44 <planetmaker> ^ my main argument for "keep it as open as possible" :-) 11:15:13 <planetmaker> I don't like to have others jump through hooks ;-) 11:15:32 <Irwe> yes me to.. maybe some kind of parameter that doesn't allow the cottages but the rest of the buildings will be there... and the cottages is replaced with original houses from tripic 11:15:44 <Irwe> tropic* 11:16:38 <planetmaker> as parameter: why not. Though, believe me or not, houses in New Zealand may look just as colourful and match your grfs, too 11:16:48 <planetmaker> and that's 40° South 11:17:10 <Irwe> yea you are right 11:17:35 <Irwe> well I just have to talk to as about the coding as see whats possible 11:19:41 <planetmaker> climate restriction is something you need to add additionally 11:19:58 <planetmaker> making single (or more) houses available (or unavailable) via grf parameter is also possible 11:20:08 <planetmaker> both is not terribly complicated 11:20:41 <Irwe> I know nothing about what's complicated:P I'm just very greatfull that as is helping me 11:20:43 <planetmaker> the 2cc train set might be helpful in that respect: it (dis)allows certain trains when a grf parameter is set 11:21:14 <planetmaker> afaik it works basically the same for houses 11:22:02 <Irwe> good, I guess the figuer it out somehow 11:22:11 <Irwe> I guess he* 11:22:22 <planetmaker> Irwe, and if you like... the devzone is available to take on yet another project :-) 11:23:07 <planetmaker> I could give you basically then easily a prototype build system which allows everyone to build that newgrf 11:23:19 <planetmaker> and it would allow building nightlies of the grf 11:24:08 <Irwe> yea about that, I'm not much of an organiser but something like that could be helpfull 11:24:53 <planetmaker> basically the only requirement is: chose a free license. Preferrably GPL 11:25:04 <planetmaker> but CC licenses (except -ND) will do, too 11:25:15 <Irwe> GLP already chosen 11:25:18 <planetmaker> :-) 11:26:01 <Irwe> it's a good thing, it lets me use sprites from Industrial station set 11:26:33 <planetmaker> :-) 11:26:47 <planetmaker> indeed for that very reason (and vice versa) 11:26:59 <planetmaker> or FIRS 11:27:42 <Irwe> yea FIRS looks heavenly, when the first "more stable" release comes out I'll give it a test game 13:09:11 <Ammler> planetmaker: we should give edorfaus commit rights, I don't want to replace all white self ;-) 13:23:41 <planetmaker> Ammler, yes, that's why I proposed to him to actually get them 13:26:25 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #352: Replace all "real" white with a similar white to silence some warnings. @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/352 (by Ammler) 13:36:52 <Ammler> alternatively you could count the "white" errors and complain if the counter rises. 13:50:11 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:51:07 <planetmaker> Ammler, here it's even 818 lines in OpenGFX which have "white" in it. 13:52:45 <Ammler> where is here? 13:52:56 <Ammler> how can that differ? 13:58:16 *** Frankr has quit IRC 13:59:42 <planetmaker> here = on my machine 14:00:31 <planetmaker> but let me make sure... 14:01:09 <planetmaker> hm... I guess it was a concatenated log :-P 14:08:47 <Ammler> :-) 14:08:55 <Ammler> I used officially nightly log 14:12:17 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #285: Draw some Tu154 liveries @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/285#change-884 (by simozzz_AK) 14:34:17 *** ODM has quit IRC 14:34:17 *** FooBar_ has quit IRC 14:34:17 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 14:34:17 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 14:34:17 *** Ammler has quit IRC 14:34:17 *** Irwe has quit IRC 14:34:17 *** Xeryus|bnc has quit IRC 14:34:17 *** Osai has quit IRC 14:34:17 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 14:34:17 *** tneo has quit IRC 14:34:17 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 14:35:01 *** Irwe has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:35:01 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:35:01 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:35:01 *** Osai has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:35:01 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:35:01 *** Xeryus|bnc has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:35:01 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:35:01 *** FooBar_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:35:01 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:35:01 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:35:01 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:18:02 <Brot6> 2cctrainset: nightly compile not needed. (r225) 16:18:02 <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r187) 16:18:02 <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r138) 16:18:03 <Brot6> opengfx: update from r149 to r150, starting nightly compile 16:18:55 <Brot6> opengfx: compile done (1 errors) - http://mz.openttdcoop.org/bundles/opengfx/nightlies/compile-log/opengfx-FAILED-compile-error.log 16:18:55 <Brot6> worldairlineset: update from r368 to r370, starting nightly compile 16:19:30 <Brot6> worldairlineset: compile completely failed! :-( - http://mz.openttdcoop.org/bundles/worldairlineset 16:19:32 <planetmaker> woot? failed? 16:20:03 <planetmaker> and why is the link not valid which Brot gives, Ammler ? 16:22:15 <planetmaker> and otoh, the nightly was compiled... 16:22:30 <planetmaker> The "fail" is probably the error 4 on the random sprites in ogfxe_extra 16:24:11 <Ammler> ups 16:24:35 <Ammler> I linked the FAILED log on wrong project 17:12:53 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Revision 24: Fix r23: linked the FAILED log on succeeded projects @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/repository/revisions/24 (by Ammler) 19:33:57 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:36:57 *** Irwe has quit IRC 19:41:26 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:42:02 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:58:41 <andythenorth> evening 21:01:27 <andythenorth> planetmaker: got a repo question 21:02:09 <planetmaker> salut 21:05:48 <andythenorth> thinking about starting my ship set - FISH.....figured I might as well begin with a repo? 21:05:55 <andythenorth> and perhaps a makefile? :D 21:05:59 <planetmaker> sure 21:06:15 <planetmaker> basically you can copy&paste the newgrf-makefile repo 21:06:21 <planetmaker> it should be quite straight forward 21:07:05 <planetmaker> it follows (or rather leads :-P ) the same "standard" as firs and heqs. 21:07:17 <planetmaker> but isn't tainted by the details of an existing newgrf :-P 21:07:43 <planetmaker> can you create a repo yourself? (I would think so) 21:07:57 <planetmaker> or at least the project on redmine 21:10:42 <andythenorth> ok doing that new 21:11:28 <planetmaker> it'd be a nice test actually, if I made the newgrf-makefile repo such, that people different than me can just use it :-) 21:12:04 <andythenorth> FISH project created... 21:12:44 <andythenorth> so should I clone the new-grf repo, or what? 21:13:41 <planetmaker> hm, yes, I guess. And then _copy_ it to your fish repo 21:14:17 <planetmaker> and then you can commit that as the initial commit for that fish repo. 21:14:30 <planetmaker> Well... maybe you want to adjust Makefile.config before doing that :-) 21:15:48 <Ammler> creating a repo: hg clone fish ssh://ottdc@mz.openttdcoop.org/hg-repos/fish 21:16:56 <andythenorth> repo unkown 21:16:58 <andythenorth> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/hg/fish 21:17:04 <andythenorth> ^^ unknown sorry 21:17:22 <Ammler> first you clone the makefile-repo 21:17:28 <andythenorth> oops, reading Ammler more carefully 21:17:29 <Ammler> then you clone that back to fish 21:18:43 <planetmaker> so... basically: hg clone ssh://ottdc@mz.openttdcoop.org/hg-repos/newgrf-makefile newgrf-makefile 21:18:53 <Ammler> well 21:18:56 <planetmaker> cp -R newgrf-makefile fish 21:19:02 <Ammler> I would use fish as alias 21:19:14 <planetmaker> hg clone fish ssh://ottdc@mz.openttdcoop.org/hg-repos/fish 21:19:19 <planetmaker> :-) 21:19:22 <Ammler> no 21:19:34 <Ammler> hmm 21:19:38 <Ammler> maybe it works :-) 21:20:35 <andythenorth> hg clone ssh://ottdc@mz.openttdcoop.org/hg-repos/newgrf-makefile newgrf-makefile 21:20:36 <andythenorth> fails 21:20:46 <andythenorth> remote: Illegal repository '/home/ottdc/hg/newgrf-makefile' 21:20:46 <andythenorth> abort: no suitable response from remote hg! 21:21:28 <planetmaker> maybe it's called differently :-) 21:21:35 <Ammler> why not clone directly to fish? 21:22:21 <planetmaker> Ammler, also possible, I guess 21:22:27 <planetmaker> andythenorth, it is _ not - 21:23:05 <andythenorth> planetmaker: ok that fixed it 21:23:15 <Ammler> and then, don't forget to fix the default url 21:23:18 <planetmaker> quite unlogical 21:23:21 <andythenorth> I have clone to newgrf_makefile, now I'll cp 21:23:31 <Ammler> else you pull the fish to the makefile template :-) 21:23:52 <planetmaker> hehe :-) 21:24:08 <planetmaker> true. Then it could have been co'ed directly to fish... 21:24:40 <Ammler> maybe best would be hg clone ssh://ottdc@mz.openttdcoop.org/hg-repos/newgrf-makefile ssh://ottdc@mz.openttdcoop.org/hg-repos/fish 21:24:54 <Ammler> and then clone the fish 21:25:51 <planetmaker> :-) does that work? 21:26:31 <Ammler> don't think so 21:26:45 <andythenorth> pdq2s-macbook-3:fish_build andy$ hg push 21:26:45 <andythenorth> remote: Illegal repository '/home/ottdc/hg-repos/fish' 21:26:45 <andythenorth> abort: no suitable response from remote hg! 21:26:54 <andythenorth> I've changed the url 21:26:56 <andythenorth> default = ssh://ottdc@mz.openttdcoop.org/hg-repos/fish 21:27:06 <Ammler> yes, but first you need to clone :-) 21:27:14 <andythenorth> I've tried to create a repo for fish with redmine 21:27:17 <andythenorth> oh, ok clone 21:27:30 <Ammler> hg clone <localfish> ssh... 21:28:21 <andythenorth> pdq2s-macbook-3:FISH andy$ hg clone fish_build ssh://ottdc@mz.openttdcoop.org/hg-repos/fish 21:28:21 <andythenorth> Illegal command 'hg init hg-repos/fish' 21:28:21 <andythenorth> abort: could not create remote repo! 21:28:37 <andythenorth> (my local repo is fish_build - for personal reasons...) 21:28:49 <andythenorth> do I have permissions? 21:28:59 <Ammler> hmm, I thought so :-) 21:29:03 <Ammler> but it seems no 21:29:15 <Ammler> well then 21:29:20 <planetmaker> I changed fish to be a sub-repo of newgrfs :-) 21:29:33 <planetmaker> (as are all other newgrfs) 21:30:06 <Ammler> andythenorth: I do clone the makefile template to fish 21:30:50 <Ammler> andythenorth: now clone it from the server 21:31:03 <Ammler> or pull should work now too :-) 21:31:15 <Ammler> push* 21:31:51 <andythenorth> clone from server worked nicely thanks 21:32:10 <andythenorth> anyone want to join the set? or am I sailing alone? 21:32:22 <andythenorth> I'll do a forum post when I have a tracking table and a starter sprite 21:33:04 <Ammler> maybe bilbo :-) 21:33:24 <planetmaker> well. I'm happy to keep the build system up2date. I cannot promise more though. 21:37:13 <Ammler> seriously, bilbo could be a candiate, he once talked about a ship set and he has already commit experience here too. 21:41:16 <planetmaker> I would like to, but I fear I'm even already now beyond the limit of time I should commit here... 21:42:51 <andythenorth> ok thanks for the help, goodnight 21:42:52 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 22:05:59 <Ammler> planetmaker: edorfaus would need to be added to devs then. 22:12:28 <planetmaker> right 22:13:25 <planetmaker> done 22:55:46 <Ammler> he, now fish has the whole history of the makefile template 23:30:13 *** Frankr has quit IRC