Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 3rd August 2009:
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00:16:56  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #368: Mighty mover battery truck white line @ (by Rubidium)
00:29:22  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #369: White lines in some (fairly unused) characters @ (by Rubidium)
00:36:51  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #352: Replace all "real" white with a similar white to silence some warnings. @ (by Rubidium)
01:33:35  <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 88M)
01:33:35  <Brot6> Bo Derek ruined my life!
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05:54:15  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 157: Fix (#357): White bottom of small submarines (Rubidium) @ (by planetmaker)
05:56:46  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #352: Replace all "real" white with a similar white to silence some warnings. @ (by Rubidium)
05:56:46  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #367 (Closed): Small submarines have white line @ (by planetmaker)
06:02:11  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #352: Replace all "real" white with a similar white to silence some warnings. @ (by Rubidium)
06:02:11  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 158: Fix (#368): White line at battery truck (Rubidium) @ (by planetmaker)
06:02:11  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 159: Fix (#369): White lines in some characters (Rubidium) @ (by planetmaker)
06:02:13  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #368 (Closed): Mighty mover battery truck white line @ (by planetmaker)
06:02:16  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #369 (Closed): White lines in some (fairly unused) characters @ (by planetmaker)
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06:09:35  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 160: Fix (r157): Some additional, not always positive changes slipped in @ (by planetmaker)
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06:23:45  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 161: Fix (issue #352): replace pure white in a number of sprites (Rubidium) @ (by planetmaker)
06:27:54  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 162: Doc: credit whom credit is due @ (by planetmaker)
06:30:00  <ODM> mornin
06:30:19  <planetmaker> salut :-)
06:30:38  <ODM> burp
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07:27:04  <Ammler> morning guys
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07:49:26  * Ammler wonders, when planetmaker will learn that brackets around #XX doesn't work ;-)
08:01:51  <planetmaker> that will take time :-P
08:09:40  <ODM> ages atleast.
08:29:43  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #352: Replace all "real" white with a similar white to silence some warnings. @ (by Rubidium)
08:56:38  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 163: Fix #352: replace pure white in the remaining sprites (Rubidium) @ (by planetmaker)
08:56:38  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #352 (Closed): Replace all "real" white with a similar white to silence some wa... @ (by planetmaker)
08:57:12  <planetmaker> I learnt something :-P
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09:52:03  <DJNekkid> hi again guys
10:28:21  <planetmaker> savle DJNekkid
10:28:37  <DJNekkid> salve?
10:33:05  <planetmaker> ^ :-)
10:33:14  <DJNekkid> not slave?
10:40:23  <planetmaker> haha :-)
10:40:23  <planetmaker> I wouldn't _say_ so :-P
10:40:44  <planetmaker> you know... panem et circenses. Makes the slaves work willingly without noticing to be one :-P
10:43:10  <Ammler> welcome back DJ :-)
10:43:17  <DJNekkid> hehe... ty am
10:43:20  <DJNekkid> ler
10:43:33  <Ammler> Nekkid :-P
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12:18:52  <DJNekkid> nice... 20k on the DJ account...
12:19:04  <DJNekkid> or ... 2100 ish
12:19:09  <DJNekkid> thats the euro-sign
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14:12:37  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 374: 757-200 pcx files added @ (by Frank)
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14:22:15  <Frankr> hello
14:24:41  <Frankr> Does any1 here know what a "Make : GRF Error 2" is
14:25:02  <Ammler> Frankr: check the compile log
14:25:21  <Ammler> does the compile work on your side?
14:26:29  <Frankr> where is the compile log?
14:29:09  <Ammler> well, I am refering to the failed compile on the server
14:29:16  <Ammler>
14:29:30  <Ammler> but that is error in the filename
14:30:04  <Frankr> I've fixed that problem now
14:31:43  <Ammler> don't use special chars in filenames
14:31:54  <Ammler> only alphanumeric
14:32:18  <Ammler> no brackets, no spaces, no dots, no whatever ;-)
14:32:55  <Frankr> no dash -
14:33:03  <Ammler> dash is fine, imo.
14:33:30  <Ammler> and underline is also fine.
14:34:59  <Frankr> the compiles worked fine until i added 757-200 but i couldn't get the pcx file palette to work on my GIMP and now it is messed up
14:35:16  <Ammler> hmm
14:35:30  <Ammler> afaik, you work with dos there
14:35:58  <Ammler> you know how to load a older version of a file?
14:36:30  <Frankr> no, i was thinking of maybe removing the 757-200 and seeing what happens
14:42:37  <Frankr> it must be to do with the 757-200 because it works without it
14:43:13  <Frankr> i'll check all the files it should have, may be one missing
14:44:57  <Ammler> I would say, it would work, if you change the filename
14:45:05  <Ammler> (0)Grey...
14:45:23  <Frankr> I'll try that thn
14:46:01  <Ammler> you will see at 18:18 CEST
14:46:12  <Ammler> that is the time, when the newgrfs will compile
14:49:18  <Frankr> nope, when i do a make it still comes up Error 2 at the end instead of Done
14:49:43  <Ammler> commit it, then I can take a look, if you want
14:50:33  <Frankr> ok
14:51:11  <Ammler> (and push)
14:54:14  <DJNekkid> hey you WAS guys ...
14:54:23  <DJNekkid> need info about fuel concuption?
14:54:39  <Frankr> fuel consupmtion
14:54:55  <DJNekkid> thats what i ment :p
14:55:05  <Frankr> wat about it
14:55:08  <DJNekkid> the M and the P is so close
14:55:33  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 375: 1F Dutch Changed @ (by Frank)
14:55:59  <Frankr> DJ wat about it, u want it to be written in? If so how
14:56:21  <DJNekkid> no, more to adjust running costs
14:56:50  <Frankr> I've adjusted the running costs
14:57:00  <Frankr> take off uses the most
14:57:11  <Frankr> apart from on Concorde
14:57:41  <Frankr> Ammler
14:57:52  <Frankr> I think i have found the prooblem
14:59:35  <Frankr> DJNekkid: How does that sound, ok?
15:00:37  <DJNekkid> yup...
15:01:19  <Frankr> Ammler: Or not
15:01:24  <Ammler> ?
15:01:28  <Frankr> DJNekkid: Good
15:01:58  <Frankr> Ammler: Thought i had found the problem i've probably mispelt something in the nfo
15:02:55  <Frankr> As i'm still not used to how Yorick has changed evrything
15:03:18  <DJNekkid> Frankr: it just came to me ... that with known fuel concuption the running costs could be even more precice
15:03:20  <DJNekkid> presice
15:03:25  <DJNekkid> precise
15:03:28  <DJNekkid> or something :)
15:03:48  <Frankr> they could be
15:04:12  <Frankr> just would take alot of time to work out and maybe for a later version
15:05:18  <DJNekkid> i could have a look one day :)
15:05:41  <DJNekkid> make up some kind of scheme
15:05:42  <Frankr> how is the re-writing of 2CC set going?
15:05:58  <Frankr> DJ you sure can if u want
15:05:59  <DJNekkid> i heavent done any codeing the last months ...
15:06:06  <DJNekkid> been 2 busy at work
15:06:18  <Frankr> Alot of work has been done since you last saw the set probably
15:06:32  <DJNekkid> i did a pull earlier today
15:06:34  <Frankr> Fair enough, life takes priority
15:06:35  <DJNekkid> but it could not compile
15:06:51  <Frankr> no that is the problem i'm trying to fix
15:07:06  <Frankr> it will work if u remove the 757-200nfo
15:07:13  <Frankr> if you want to take a look
15:07:23  <DJNekkid> i've been working lots of 10-11hr days 5 days a week, plus 1 or 2 gigs every week since middle of may
15:07:30  <DJNekkid> i ment the 2cc set now :)
15:07:38  <Frankr> ok, lol
15:07:40  <DJNekkid> probably foobars bogus script :P
15:07:46  <Frankr> :)
15:07:51  <DJNekkid> ehm
15:07:54  <DJNekkid> planetmaker i mean :)
15:08:39  <planetmaker> wooot?
15:08:43  <DJNekkid> :p
15:08:47  <Frankr> :P
15:08:55  <DJNekkid> sec, ill post a screen
15:11:43  <Ammler> Loading sprites/pcx/boeing/b757-200/(0)Greyscale.pcxy: 50%, Redundancy: 71%)
15:11:45  <Ammler> Error: Sprite y extends beyond end of PCX file.
15:11:46  <Ammler> File has 209 lines, sprite wants 210..250
15:12:10  <Ammler> hmm, the makefile from was is very much too silent
15:12:21  <DJNekkid> dammit, whats my redmine password
15:12:29  <Ammler> :P
15:12:31  <DJNekkid> oh
15:12:34  <Frankr> ty Ammler
15:12:53  <DJNekkid>
15:13:25  <Ammler> DJNekkid: check the compile farm
15:13:32  <Ammler> last nightly worked there
15:13:38  <Frankr> Your very helpful Ammler that can be fixed very easily
15:13:43  <Frankr> :)
15:14:09  <Ammler> Frankr: i just run grfcodec -e was.grf
15:14:11  <DJNekkid> no activity on 2cc set the last week or so
15:14:19  <Ammler> no
15:14:25  <Frankr> I found a few mistakes anyway while i tried to find the problem
15:14:46  <Frankr> see that i why i'm still a novice coder and your not
15:14:59  <Frankr> i never thought to go back to basics, lol
15:15:50  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - error.PNG @ (by DJNekkid)
15:18:35  <Ammler> it isn't very nice, you use complete other rules on was then we use on all other sets.
15:19:04  <Ammler> I have no idea, why your Makefile is so silent
15:19:28  <Ammler> we have to talk with yorick
15:20:08  <Frankr> I didn't make the MAKE
15:20:15  <Ammler> the default Makefile should be very verboxe
15:20:22  <Ammler> verbose*
15:20:26  <Frankr> I still don't quite understand it myself
15:20:37  <Ammler> and you can silent it with your local config, if you don't care
15:20:42  <Frankr> and he has changed all the nfo into very wordy documents
15:21:13  <Ammler> well, some parts are nice
15:21:35  <Ammler> but it needs to be transparent, so you aren't lost, if he isn't around.
15:21:36  <Frankr> Well, i'm still not quite used to the changes
15:21:48  <Frankr> Lol, very true
15:22:09  <Ammler> well, for now
15:22:18  <Ammler> it looks like the nfo will be generated
15:22:31  <Ammler> then just run grfcodec -e -p2 was.grf
15:22:35  <Ammler> and you get the error
15:23:30  <Frankr> yh we do actually have a copy of the grfcodec file i just found it
15:23:53  <Ammler> ?
15:23:56  <Frankr> But i never knew it existed should i push it
15:24:38  <Frankr> it is a file created in the folder along with all the other was.pnfo, .rnfo, .bak, .new
15:25:06  <Ammler> no
15:25:08  <Ammler> :-)
15:25:21  <Frankr> And it says right at the bottom wat u told me
15:25:35  <Ammler> don't commit something, which will be generated
15:25:44  <Frankr> ok
15:25:55  <Ammler> but you can upload it to files or
15:26:17  <Frankr> well i know where it is now which is very helpful for future problems
15:26:20  <Ammler>
15:26:36  <Ammler> how is the file called?
15:27:13  <Ammler> (and don't forget to push the fix :-)
15:27:36  <Frankr> added it
15:27:50  <Frankr> I will do, i'm sorting the problem out now
15:28:05  <Frankr> got to change all of the Sprite Co-ords
15:30:17  <DJNekkid> Frankr: :)
15:30:38  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - grfcodec.log @ (by Frank)
15:33:15  <Frankr> DJNekkid: Don't have time to play games
15:34:26  <Frankr> :)
15:35:44  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #370: default Makefile too silent / clean forgot about one file @ (by Ammler)
15:36:33  <Frankr> DJNekkid: Alex says airlinemogul is better
15:38:28  <Frankr> that is
15:39:23  <Frankr> There is one thing i have found out while coding, my Computer Screen isn't big enough
15:39:55  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #370: default Makefile too silent / clean forgot about one file @ (by Ammler)
15:52:57  <DJNekkid> Frankr: i know he saied that, i talked to him on msn the other day ...
16:02:21  <Frankr> lol
16:02:25  <Frankr> u on msn
16:02:39  <DJNekkid> tmsmje@hot
16:02:56  <Frankr> .com or
16:03:10  <DJNekkid> com
16:03:33  <Frankr> added ya
16:04:02  <DJNekkid> okidoki :)
16:05:31  <planetmaker> DJNekkid, that's not an error of the makefile
16:05:48  <planetmaker> That's an error of you not installing MinGW / MSys properly or at least w/o gcc
16:06:02  <DJNekkid> i installed bootd once
16:06:17  <DJNekkid> not sufficient?
16:06:19  <planetmaker> whatever that is. It clearly didn't install anything which is detected as gcc
16:06:24  <planetmaker> I don't know bootd
16:06:38  <DJNekkid> buildottd
16:06:55  <planetmaker> oh. That *should* have it.
16:06:57  <Frankr> no it doesn't work that DJNekkid
16:07:16  <planetmaker> Frankr, not sufficient?
16:07:18  <Frankr> I tried it with BuildOttd but it never seemed to work for me
16:07:31  <planetmaker> it should be a compile environment for OpenTTD... using gcc
16:07:52  <Frankr> it did suposedly have the right Msys and GCC
16:08:29  <Frankr> I reinstalled them elsewhere and it worked fine
16:32:26  <Ammler> hmm
16:32:38  <Ammler> ah :-)
16:37:00  <planetmaker> hm... I should definitely add the missing tropical house :-)
16:38:13  <DJNekkid> hmm
16:38:26  <DJNekkid> does the added "path" thingy in windows need a reboot?
16:39:00  <planetmaker> not sure. test it :-)
16:39:11  <planetmaker> type "set" in the cmd window and see
16:41:03  <DJNekkid> apparently
16:42:37  <DJNekkid> and i had c:\buildottd\mingw\bin set
16:42:40  <DJNekkid> and not just mingw
16:42:50  <DJNekkid> therefor it errors it seems
16:43:11  <DJNekkid> mmm! beer!
16:43:14  <DJNekkid> on a monday!
16:46:32  <DJNekkid> only 1,8mill more, and i can get a new A321-100 :D
16:46:41  <DJNekkid> *keep talking to himself*
16:48:20  <planetmaker> haha :-)
16:57:38  <Ammler> [18:38] <DJNekkid> does the added "path" thingy in windows need a reboot? <-- no
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17:16:06  <DJNekkid> Ammler: sure? it seems so :)
17:16:27  <Frankr> DJNekkid: Are you playing AirwaySim thn with A321-100
17:16:47  <DJNekkid> thn?
17:16:58  <DJNekkid> ATB2
17:17:43  <Frankr> ATB2?
17:17:54  <DJNekkid> air travel boom 2
17:18:22  <Frankr> lol, wat is that
17:18:28  <DJNekkid> the gamename
17:18:35  <DJNekkid> or ... world :)
17:18:58  <DJNekkid> but yes ... i got an A321-100 on order, and i lack the saied ammount for the next one
17:19:28  <Frankr> lol
17:19:50  <Frankr> borrow it like all airlines do
17:20:03  <DJNekkid> what do u think i lack money for?
17:20:27  <DJNekkid> i started my airline about 3monts ago :)
17:21:05  <Frankr> ok
17:21:41  <DJNekkid> leased a used A320-100
17:21:54  <DJNekkid> then ordred a new CRJ200
17:22:05  <DJNekkid> then leased a new A321-100
17:22:12  <DJNekkid> not yet delivered tho
17:22:42  <Ammler> I hate browser games :-)
17:22:47  <Frankr> :)
17:22:59  <Ammler> Frankr: was compile failed again
17:23:12  <Frankr> it will do
17:23:33  <Frankr> i haven't pushed the changes to the co-ords yet getting thm right first
17:23:47  <Frankr> this is beardie's job never done this before
17:23:57  <Frankr> so taking me longer than it should
17:23:58  <Ammler> Loading sprites/pcx/boeing/b757-200/(0)Greyscale.pcxy: 51%, Redundancy: 71%)
17:23:59  <Ammler> Error: Sprite y extends beyond end of PCX file.
17:24:01  <Ammler> File has 209 lines, sprite wants 210..250
17:24:08  <Frankr> i kow
17:24:12  <Ammler> ah ok
17:24:18  <Ammler> thought you pushed the fix
17:24:21  <Frankr> i have changed it just not pushed
17:25:00  <Frankr> got 1 more set of sprites to do thn i will push it
17:25:04  <Frankr> should work thn
17:41:14  <Frankr> Done i'll push after my t, brb
17:41:37  <planetmaker> Ammler: where's the palette w/o the action colours?
17:42:04  <planetmaker> I somehow don't find it...
17:44:59  <DJNekkid> yey, made almost 500k last week
17:55:12  <DJNekkid> jeesus ... how do guys get to 11mill a week already
17:56:22  <DJNekkid> i guess not beeing picky on their planes :)
17:57:20  <DJNekkid> aha ... clever :)
17:57:27  <DJNekkid> max loan, then get two DC10's
17:57:57  <Ammler> planetmaker:
17:58:18  <planetmaker> thx
18:04:36  <Frankr> Sorted
18:04:43  <Frankr> Compiles work now
18:06:00  <Frankr> Thnx for ur help Ammler
18:06:23  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Revision 26: [CF] Feature: Creates the needed bundle web folder @ (by Ammler)
18:06:23  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Revision 27: [CF] Feature: Default Makefile.local @ (by Ammler)
18:06:23  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 376: Fix #350, Fixed 757-200nfo, Compiles work now @ (by Frank)
18:06:24  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #350 (Closed): Nightly r370 compile failed @ (by Frank)
18:07:07  <Frankr> Ammler: R u there
18:09:00  <Frankr> Does any1 know when the nightlies are compiles
18:09:05  <Frankr> compiled*
18:10:21  <Ammler> y, iah
18:10:39  <Ammler> t n d c e d o 1
18:10:48  <Frankr> ??
18:11:12  <Ammler> the nightly do compile every day on 18:18 CEST
18:11:20  <Frankr> ty
18:11:39  <Ammler> please don't use shorts
18:11:44  <Frankr> the next one will be 2morro thn
18:11:49  <Ammler> or how that "slang" is called
18:14:15  <Ammler> Frankr: I run it at succeeded
18:14:28  <Frankr> yh it works fine now
18:21:28  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - was.grf @ (by Frank)
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18:35:20  <Ammler> @deop
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18:37:26  <Frankr> Ammler: Wat u doin?
18:37:40  <Ammler> I set +m here
18:37:47  <Ammler> (spam protection)
18:37:54  <Frankr> oh
18:46:26  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 377: Fixed Flashing 757-200 Thomson pcx @ (by Frank)
18:46:26  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #370: default Makefile too silent / clean forgot about one file @ (by Ammler)
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18:53:43  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #371: 757-200 Thomson pcx Flashes @ (by Frank)
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19:31:56  <planetmaker> :-) nice
19:32:10  <planetmaker> grfcodec now has a target "install" :-)
19:32:32  <planetmaker> [21:30]	<patchbot>	SVN commit: r2174 by DaleStan (2 files in misc/grfcodec/): Add an install target (Thanks to planetmaker for initial diff.)
19:32:42  <Ammler> :-)
19:32:47  <Ammler> I don't need it :P
19:32:52  <planetmaker> :-P
19:32:54  <DJNekkid> planetmaker: is it possible for me to somehow download that source and compile it?
19:32:59  <planetmaker> don't you compile yourself, Ammler ?
19:33:01  <Ammler> or is it able to install to a remote location?
19:33:12  <planetmaker> DJNekkid: it is. But you could get it from
19:33:18  <planetmaker> in a compiled form
19:33:28  <planetmaker> they build now nightlies of grfcodec and nforenum
19:33:32  <DJNekkid> i mean, grfcodec/nforenum
19:33:32  <Ammler> DJNekkid: boost and such is ugly.
19:33:36  <DJNekkid> oki, cool
19:33:50  <planetmaker> Ammler: boost dependency is gone afaik
19:33:58  <planetmaker> not sure though
19:34:14  <planetmaker> just read in the commit log something with boost dependencies
19:35:07  <planetmaker> DJNekkid: but if you want to compile yourself: or grfcodec respectively :-)
19:35:13  <planetmaker> as svn checkout
19:35:21  <DJNekkid> nah...
19:35:26  <DJNekkid> not if i can download it :)
19:35:39  <planetmaker> <-- that's the better URL
19:36:24  <planetmaker> hm, no. boost still required
19:36:58  <planetmaker> DJNekkid: it's also recommended to update to r2166 or higher :-)
19:37:09  <planetmaker> though, not building OpenGFX, you pro'ly won't mind
19:37:12  <DJNekkid> i took both latest versions
19:37:46  <planetmaker> always good choice :-)#
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19:45:46  <DJNekkid> jesus bloody christ
19:45:50  <DJNekkid> now "make" wont work
19:45:57  <planetmaker> ?
19:46:08  <DJNekkid> i tried to adjust thoose paths
19:46:16  <planetmaker> He. Did you overwrite?
19:46:36  <planetmaker> "adjust" is always bad. "add" is always safe
19:46:48  <planetmaker> well. not always but most often
19:47:24  <DJNekkid> how do i just add`
19:47:55  <DJNekkid> only double-click
19:47:59  <DJNekkid> and write-stuff
19:48:00  <DJNekkid> :p
19:48:17  <DJNekkid> i think i'll reboot
19:48:34  <planetmaker> oh oh.
19:48:50  <planetmaker> you just extend the string which is already there. But don't overwrite it.
19:49:11  <DJNekkid> exactly
19:49:15  <planetmaker> if you've overwritten it... good luck ;-)
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20:02:01  <DJNekkid> do anyone of you know or can guess how much (lets say in %) of the power a TGV (for example) use at cruising speed?
20:04:09  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: HEQS Heavy Equipment Set - @ (by andythenorth)
20:10:55  <andythenorth> Any of you tried the FISH grf?
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20:20:09  <planetmaker> DJNekkid: friction force is ca. 5% of weight. drag power is cw * v^3 * some constant
20:21:10  <DJNekkid> cw?
20:21:25  <planetmaker> air drag coefficient
20:21:25  <DJNekkid> and what is that constant? :p
20:21:44  <planetmaker> dunno :) wiki for air drag
20:21:59  <DJNekkid> so, at full speed would a TGV probably use all of its 8800kw?
20:23:03  <planetmaker> no idea. sounds a lot...
20:23:21  <planetmaker> maybe the 5% is too much
20:23:44  <planetmaker> what's cruise speed?
20:24:00  <planetmaker> 300km/h?
20:24:38  <planetmaker> I'd guess for purely maintaining it, it uses less.
20:24:47  <planetmaker> like maybe 70% of it.
20:25:01  <DJNekkid> thats what i guessed as well
20:25:11  <DJNekkid> 2/3rd (66,66...%) of max power
20:25:43  <planetmaker> andythenorth: unfortunately not yet.
20:25:50  <planetmaker> I guess I should give it a try :-)
20:26:44  <andythenorth> planetmaker: feedback would be useful.  plus, I think you'll be bowled over by my new approach to graphics :D
20:28:05  <planetmaker> "new approach"?
20:29:10  <andythenorth> check it out...
20:33:05  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #372: 747-200 Northwest livery @ (by simozzz_AK)
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20:59:31  <DJNekkid> yey, surpassed 500k this week!
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21:38:47  <planetmaker> andythenorth: suggestion: boats were available prior to 1920
21:39:10  <andythenorth> planetmaker: yep, dates are completely arbitrary so far
21:39:16  <andythenorth> only capacities have been set
21:39:33  <andythenorth> what you see is most of the planned steam/diesel ships
21:39:41  <andythenorth> I need to add some passenger ferries
21:39:47  <andythenorth> And then sailing ships
21:40:06  <planetmaker> ok :-)
21:40:39  <DJNekkid> and the titanic!
21:42:36  <planetmaker> :-)
21:43:34  <planetmaker> good night folks
21:44:52  <planetmaker> but I like those floats / ships :-)
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22:09:28  <DJNekkid> dammit
22:09:49  <DJNekkid> not possible to fly chicago - los angeles with a high capacity plane twice a day
22:09:59  <DJNekkid> atleast without a really short turnaround
22:10:35  <DJNekkid> and ticketprices werent all that either
22:12:11  <DJNekkid> but perhaps...
22:19:48  <DJNekkid> a 757 can do it
22:20:54  <DJNekkid> a little low capacity tho ... hmm
22:23:17  <DJNekkid> a A321 would do the job just as good
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