Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 11th August 2009:
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01:36:57  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #379: OPEN TTD title misaligned @ (by athanasios)
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08:30:59  <planetmaker> Ammler: can we add OpenSFX to the compile farm?
08:37:22  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Revision 7: -Change: Add editor backup files and Makefile.local to ignored files @ (by planetmaker)
08:37:22  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Revision 8: -Add: make mrproper to remove all generated files @ (by Rubidium)
08:41:13  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: nightly compile not needed. (r228)
08:41:13  <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r187)
08:41:13  <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r36)
08:41:13  <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r142)
08:41:13  <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r165)
08:41:14  <Brot6> worldairlineset: update from r387 to r393, starting nightly compile
08:41:49  <Brot6> worldairlineset: compile done (0 errors) -
08:43:03  <Ammler> planetmaker: it just needs a target bundle_zip
08:43:43  <Ammler>
08:44:11  <Ammler> imo, it should work with non grf too
08:44:38  <Ammler> I would take a look tonight else.
08:45:12  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: nightly compile not needed. (r228)
08:45:13  <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r187)
08:45:13  <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r36)
08:45:13  <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r142)
08:45:14  <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r165)
08:45:14  <Brot6> opensfx: update from r to r8, starting nightly compile
08:45:21  <Brot6> opensfx: compile completely failed! :-( -
08:45:21  <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r393)
08:45:53  <planetmaker> Ammler: yes, thanks :-) Conveniently you documented it well :-) I found it after I asked :-P
08:46:23  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: nightly compile not needed. (r228)
08:46:24  <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r187)
08:46:24  <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r36)
08:46:24  <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r142)
08:46:25  <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r165)
08:46:25  <Brot6> opensfx: no commit since last failed compile, compile skipped (r8)
08:46:27  <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r393)
08:46:40  <planetmaker> hm...
08:46:57  <planetmaker> how do I test now the compilation of opensfx?
08:47:09  <planetmaker> It just didn't find catcodec. I forgot to add a+x for it.
08:49:12  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: nightly compile not needed. (r228)
08:49:12  <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r187)
08:49:12  <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r36)
08:49:12  <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r142)
08:49:12  <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r165)
08:49:13  <Brot6> opensfx: update from r to r8, starting nightly compile
08:49:19  <Brot6> opensfx: compile completely failed! :-( -
08:49:19  <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r393)
08:49:41  <planetmaker> mäh
08:50:51  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: nightly compile not needed. (r228)
08:50:51  <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r187)
08:50:51  <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r36)
08:50:51  <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r142)
08:50:51  <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r165)
08:50:52  <Brot6> opensfx: update from r to r8, starting nightly compile
08:51:12  <Brot6> opensfx: compile done (0 errors) -
08:51:12  <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r393)
08:54:14  * planetmaker hugs Ammler
08:54:23  <planetmaker> you really made the CF quite easy to use :-)
08:55:54  <Ammler> planetmaker: you can redirect the output to console instead of irc
08:56:09  <planetmaker> he :-) I didn't know that.
08:56:11  <Ammler> just commnet the line with rcat and use the line with cat at top
08:56:22  <planetmaker> But too late... it's done and it works now
08:56:42  <planetmaker> [10:55]	<Rubidium>	could you set the mime type for logs to text/plain?
08:56:44  <planetmaker> [10:56]	<Rubidium>	makes log files open in your browser instead of an external application
08:57:40  <planetmaker> ^ Ammler
08:58:29  <planetmaker> also, from the last run of the CF:
08:58:31  <planetmaker> cat: /home/openttd/public_html/opensfx/nightlies/REV: No such file or directory
08:58:33  <planetmaker> ./ line 17: [: =: unary operator expected
09:00:12  <Ammler> planetmaker: that happens once
09:00:24  <Ammler> maybe we could fix that
09:00:26  <planetmaker> I know.
09:00:43  <planetmaker> It's not a big issue. I just thought, I should mention it :-)
09:00:47  <Ammler> oh, and it works thanks to your awesome Makefile
09:01:12  <planetmaker> so we should congratulate eachother :-D
09:01:14  <Ammler> hmm, the other thing, maybe FooBar_ knows?
09:01:25  <planetmaker> the mime type?
09:01:34  <planetmaker> I thought you knew :-)
09:04:17  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Revision 9: Added tag 0.1.0-alpha1 for changeset bd2a570720af @ (by Rubidium)
09:04:42  <Ammler> well, I know, but it doesn't work :-(
09:04:49  <Ammler> can you try?
09:06:11  <planetmaker> task assigned to Ammler :-P
09:06:13  <planetmaker> [11:03]	<planetmaker>	Do you know by heart how to set the mime type?
09:06:14  <planetmaker> [11:03]	<Rubidium>	in /etc/mime.types
09:06:16  <planetmaker> [11:04]	<Rubidium>	just look for text/plain and add log there
09:06:17  <planetmaker> [11:04]	<planetmaker>	I'm on it :-)
09:06:19  <planetmaker> [11:05]	<planetmaker>	does the web server need some re-start then?
09:06:21  <planetmaker> [11:05]	<Rubidium>	probably
09:06:41  <Ammler> the issue is somewhere else :P
09:06:49  <planetmaker> meh :S
09:07:01  <Ammler> I guess, it has to do with the download.php script from Foobar
09:07:01  <planetmaker> did you try re-starting the webserver?
09:08:24  <planetmaker> maybe try to disable it for a test and then re-start the webserver.
09:09:38  <Ammler> check it here
09:09:47  <Ammler> it works without the statistic script
09:09:58  <Ammler> I guess, i did already
09:10:11  <Ammler> ok, cya later
09:10:51  <planetmaker> hm... doesn't work for me.
09:11:12  <Ammler> the link I posted?
09:11:26  <planetmaker> yes.
09:11:35  <planetmaker> the log files still ask me what to do with them.
09:11:44  <planetmaker> [11:09]	<Rubidium>	does the CF trigger automagically for releases?
09:11:46  <planetmaker> [11:09]	<planetmaker>	I think that it's triggered via a commit-hook
09:11:54  <Ammler> well, please make a issue, so we don't forget, I will take a look this evening then...
09:12:01  <planetmaker> ok
09:12:30  <Ammler> the release trigger doesn't work anymore, btw.
09:12:40  <Ammler> but I need to go now definitely :-)
09:19:03  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - OpenSFX 0.1.0-alpha1 @ (by Rubidium)
09:20:33  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: nightly compile not needed. (r228)
09:20:33  <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r187)
09:20:34  <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r36)
09:20:34  <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r142)
09:20:34  <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r165)
09:20:35  <Brot6> opensfx: update from r8 to r9, starting nightly compile
09:20:55  <Brot6> opensfx: compile done (0 errors) -
09:20:55  <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r393)
09:26:44  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Revision 10: -Fix: forgot to add TODO to some of the lines; now the nothing.wav and TOD... @ (by Rubidium)
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11:55:22  <FooBar_> Ammler: the log script forces a download for each and every file. As it's intentionally a download log script, I force to offer all files as download; also files that are otherwise opened in the browser directly....
11:58:49  <planetmaker> hm...
11:59:47  <FooBar_> I'd call that "remnants of the past", as I nicked that part off something else I had sitting around...
12:00:19  <FooBar_> Shouldn't be too hard to change though...
12:16:49  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Feature #383: Sample 04: Steam train leaving station @ (by Rubidium)
12:19:56  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Feature #384: Sample 05: Steam train entering tunnel @ (by Rubidium)
12:36:52  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Feature #413: Sample 71: Monorail leaving station @ (by Rubidium)
12:53:03  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Revision 11: -Add: sound for landing plane (closes #389) @ (by Rubidium)
12:53:03  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Feature #389 (Closed): Sample 23: Plane touchdown @ (by Rubidium)
13:28:40  <Ammler> planetmaker: back :-)
13:28:49  <Ammler> did you get a good solution?
13:28:51  <planetmaker> wb, Ammler :-)
13:29:14  <planetmaker> not really. I'm not skilled with webservers (the mime type thing)
13:29:28  <planetmaker> nor do I know how to have the CF produce a release (can it do that?)
13:29:33  <Ammler> well, the webserver itself handles the mime types well.
13:30:25  <Ammler> release means creating target babananash?
13:31:48  <planetmaker> well... calling basically make release and make release_zip when a tag'ed version is submitted
13:32:21  <planetmaker> and maybe make bananas then, too :-)
13:32:29  <planetmaker> but that doesn't need doing by the CF, I think
13:32:37  <planetmaker> as it needs uploading anyway
13:33:12  <planetmaker> he... there's no target bananas :-P
13:33:37  <Ammler> what is difference between target clean and mrproper?
13:33:39  <planetmaker> at least not yet in opengfx
13:33:52  <planetmaker> mrproper deletes some more.
13:34:20  <Ammler> oh well, I don't care, I delete everything on the server anyway.
13:34:37  <planetmaker> mrproper is Rubi's addition
13:38:52  <planetmaker> well... the CF thing with releases is not that urgent, though nice IMO
13:39:03  <planetmaker> having the browser open the logs - that'd be handy indeed IMO
13:42:39  <Ammler> as I said, apache does that, it is task of the download script, FooBar_?
13:43:07  <planetmaker> [13:59]	<FooBar_>	I'd call that "remnants of the past", as I nicked that part off something else I had sitting around...
13:43:09  <planetmaker> [14:00]	<FooBar_>	Shouldn't be too hard to change though...
13:44:14  <FooBar_> If I'd let Apache do what Apache does, the logfiles probably just opened in the browser...
13:44:58  <FooBar_> I'll add an exception to the log script to not force textfiles to be offered for download
13:50:14  <FooBar_> We only need *.txt and *.log as exceptions?
13:50:40  <planetmaker> md5 also
13:50:58  <planetmaker> I'd say
13:51:30  <Ammler> yes, md5 too
13:51:43  <Ammler> csv is ok for download ;-)
13:51:44  <planetmaker> what about README?
13:51:56  <planetmaker> e.g. w/o extension?
13:52:08  <Ammler> don't care about that, we don't have it.
13:52:14  <planetmaker> k
13:52:51  <planetmaker> I'm quite amazed. Rubi really wants to get the free replacement sets getting off the ground
13:52:59  <Ammler> :-)
13:53:29  <Ammler> well, the opengfx without is only the halp replacement :-)
13:53:36  <planetmaker> sure.
13:53:45  <Ammler> but I am quite happy about the current state
13:53:53  <planetmaker> Let's hope that we manage to get it done till 0.8
13:54:04  <Ammler> I can now setup openttd without original and without any warnings.
13:54:11  <planetmaker> he already has an installer which doesn't need proprietary stuff anymore
13:54:25  <planetmaker> apropos Ammler what's this server's bandwidth?
13:54:30  <Ammler> none
13:54:32  <planetmaker> or traffic quota
13:54:40  <Ammler> 3TB
13:54:49  <Ammler> currently we use around 150 GB
13:54:53  <planetmaker> could it act as central repository for OpenGFX / OpenSFX
13:55:01  <planetmaker> e.g. for all the installers?
13:55:12  <Ammler> I already told Rubi, I don't fear more traffic.
13:55:29  <planetmaker> oh, ok.
13:55:38  <planetmaker> Didn't know that. good.
13:55:54  <Ammler> the whole openttd doesn't make 1 TB, afaik :-)
13:56:05  <planetmaker> dunno
13:56:29  <Ammler> or 2?
13:56:31  <Ammler> well
13:56:57  <planetmaker> 80k downloads per OpenTTD release or so
13:57:16  <Ammler> 80k * 3.5MB
13:57:37  <Ammler> still nothing :-)
13:57:40  <planetmaker> 80k * ... = a few GB
13:57:59  <planetmaker> a few 100 GB :-P
13:58:31  <planetmaker> @calc 100000 * 3500000
13:58:31  <Webster> planetmaker: 350000000000
13:58:43  <planetmaker> @calc 100000 * 3500000 / 1e9
13:58:52  <planetmaker> @calc 100000 * 3500000 / 1000000000
13:58:52  <Webster> planetmaker: 350
13:59:01  <planetmaker> per month
13:59:08  <Ammler> that is fine.
13:59:20  <planetmaker> :-)
13:59:24  <Ammler> :-)
13:59:42  * planetmaker hugs Ammler
13:59:54  <Ammler> we will see in a year, what I do with the VPS
14:00:05  <planetmaker> does the contract expire then?
14:00:17  <Ammler> yes, I just paid for another year 1 week ago.
14:00:26  <planetmaker> oh, ok
14:00:35  <Ammler> 150€
14:00:38  <planetmaker> well. if you like we could share that machine.
14:01:03  <Ammler> fine with me.
14:01:22  <Ammler> if you are fine with suse :-)
14:01:27  <Ammler> and webmin
14:01:45  <planetmaker> dunno what it needs to make that "official". I guess it needs me to transfer 75€ to your account :-P
14:01:52  <Ammler> nah
14:01:53  <planetmaker> suse is fine. I use it myself exclusively
14:02:09  <Ammler> we can talk about money when next bill will come, so in a year :-)
14:03:07  <Ammler> hmm, not sure anymore, might be more then 150€
14:03:12  <Ammler> as I upgraded once.
14:03:27  <Ammler> 18€ per month
14:03:56  <planetmaker> @calc 18*12
14:03:56  <Webster> planetmaker: 216
14:03:56  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Revision 29: [CF] Fix: no error message, if no old REV file around @ (by Ammler)
14:03:56  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Revision 12: -Add: sound for farm sounds: cow (closes #395) @ (by Rubidium)
14:03:56  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Feature #395 (Closed): Sample 37: Cow @ (by Rubidium)
14:04:12  <Ammler> 150€ was the old year.
14:04:22  <Ammler> the cheapest server
14:04:41  <planetmaker> this is 2nd cheapest, I guess? server4you?
14:04:45  <Ammler> yes
14:04:53  <Ammler> 30 GB harddisk
14:05:06  <planetmaker> sufficient for most, I guess :-)
14:05:26  <Ammler> well, I made it moslty for torrents, but wouldn't need it anymore.
14:05:38  <planetmaker> uh? why not?
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14:05:44  <Ammler> and mail
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14:05:52  <Ammler> but mail I have moved to google.
14:06:27  <Ammler> since that, we don't have any open file excess anymore, I guess?
14:06:49  <planetmaker> hm. Long time I had not seen any problem. True
14:07:23  <Ammler> I hosted around 10 domains from my past and familiy and a other community.
14:07:41  <Ammler> but google apps does that just as fine.
14:07:44  <FooBar_> Download log should be in order now. I guess...
14:07:51  <Ammler> you guess :-P
14:08:15  <planetmaker> you mean you hosted the mail for them?
14:08:16  <FooBar_> Yes, it looks like it works correctly here, but haven't tested in other browsers yet
14:08:20  <Ammler> the vps is noe exclusively devzone and a bit torrents
14:09:15  <Ammler> btw. we should use the new domain:<project>
14:09:23  <FooBar_> now I broke it again...moment...
14:09:29  <Ammler> mz should be go with time.
14:09:49  <Ammler> FooBar_: works here
14:09:54  <Ammler> thanks a lot :-)
14:11:21  <planetmaker> Ammler: ok, makes sense.
14:11:28  <planetmaker> Just needs getting used to :-)
14:11:36  <Ammler> well, mz will still work
14:11:38  <FooBar_> no problem :)
14:11:47  <Ammler> it is just no subdirectory anymore
14:11:56  <Ammler> no symlink
14:12:10  <planetmaker> hm... the logs are all missing line breaks...
14:12:18  <FooBar_> I excepted all text/plain from the force-download. Currently .txt, .log and .md5 are configured to use that mime-type
14:12:20  <Ammler> not here
14:12:58  <Ammler> planetmaker: you mean the compile log?
14:13:16  <planetmaker> yes
14:13:34  <Ammler> hmm, true
14:13:45  <Ammler> but the changelog works, strange
14:13:57  <Ammler> what is the difference?
14:13:57  <FooBar_> because it only has /n and not /r/n as line endings I guess
14:14:33  <planetmaker> win vs. lin?
14:14:35  <FooBar_> Windows only recognises /r/n by default
14:14:44  <FooBar_> Linux uses /n and Mac uses /r
14:14:52  <planetmaker> how nice actually
14:15:03  <Ammler> hmm
14:15:08  <FooBar_> Nice? Worst invention ever if you ask me...
14:15:37  <FooBar_> I do think that /r/n /should/ work on all platforms though
14:15:56  <Ammler> yes, some linux do show the /r as ^M
14:16:15  <planetmaker> FooBar_: sarcasm carries badly via IRC I guess :-P
14:16:16  <Ammler> i.e. vim
14:16:29  <FooBar_> planetmaker: :P
14:16:36  <Ammler> well, we have a newline issue anyway
14:16:52  <FooBar_> not only "we", the whole world actually :P
14:17:00  <Ammler> I meant in our repos
14:17:06  <FooBar_> ohw, hehehe
14:17:18  <Ammler> sometimes, if someone edits a txt file, it will show the whole file as diff
14:17:36  <FooBar_> yes, because of that.
14:17:46  <Ammler> I am still not sure, who of us breaks it all the time.
14:17:48  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Revision 13: -Add: sound for local road reconstructions (closes #393) @ (by Rubidium)
14:17:48  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Feature #393 (Closed): Sample 33: Jackhammer/local road reconstruction @ (by Rubidium)
14:17:52  <planetmaker> FooBar_: the mime type is text/HTML not text/plain
14:17:58  <planetmaker> that makes a (the?) difference
14:18:00  <Ammler> well VCS should handle that case.
14:18:19  <FooBar_> Now I use an editor that can cope with any combination and which respects that, but Excel i.e. doesn't...
14:18:36  <Ammler> well, oocalc doesn't either
14:18:39  <FooBar_> so when I update the authoroverview...
14:18:45  <Ammler> I edited the credits with vim last time
14:19:12  <Ammler> but, imo also planetmaker broke it.
14:19:35  <planetmaker> uh?
14:19:50  <Ammler> or it was me or foobar
14:19:51  <planetmaker> well... could someone change the mime type to plain text, not to html?
14:20:08  <Ammler> but someone changes the newlines for the credtis table all the time.
14:20:18  <FooBar_> Ammler: I think it was us...
14:20:21  <Ammler> of log?
14:20:23  <Ammler> :-)
14:20:32  <planetmaker> of *.txt of *.log
14:21:06  <Ammler>                 'md5' => 'text/plain',
14:21:07  <Ammler>                 'log' => 'text/plain',
14:21:09  <Ammler>                 'txt' => 'text/plain',
14:21:26  <planetmaker> but if you look, the script obviously re-encodes them to text/html
14:21:30  <planetmaker> which doesn't help
14:21:37  <Ammler> text/plain txt asc log md5
14:21:37  <FooBar_> Well, the script doesn't transmit the mime-type any more for text/plain
14:21:44  <planetmaker> and pro'ly changes the use of the /r /n and /r/n
14:22:27  <FooBar_> If I do put the mime-type (text/plain) in the header, it offers it as download again
14:22:29  <planetmaker> <-- mime type: text/html
14:23:08  <FooBar_> That's Apache kicking in then I guess
14:23:55  <Ammler> check again
14:24:05  <FooBar_> In case of text/thml all \r and \n are ignored
14:24:11  <Ammler> I added the content-type thing out from the if clause
14:24:47  <FooBar_> Yes, but now in IE I have "Wilt u dit bestand openen of opslaan?"...
14:25:08  <FooBar_> Although Fx opens it directly in the browser
14:25:14  <Ammler> hmm
14:25:29  <Ammler> well, that depense how your browser handles txt files
14:25:51  <FooBar_> That's why I put the mime-type in the if-statement as well. Then it worked in IE without the dialog...
14:25:52  <planetmaker> yes, I guess. Mine opens it also directly, if text/plain
14:26:12  <Ammler> let me check with Konqueror ;-)
14:27:01  <planetmaker> safari and ff handle plain text nicely and directly.
14:27:03  <FooBar_>
14:27:36  <FooBar_> That should show what happens in a lot of browsers in a few minutes
14:27:54  <FooBar_> Probably only IE is acting up, as usual :P
14:28:13  <planetmaker> well. I guess that's an IE problem then.
14:28:21  <planetmaker> Make the if-clause IE-specific then
14:28:46  <Ammler> :-)
14:29:01  <Ammler> in Konqueror it will also use a text editor
14:29:20  <planetmaker> I think it might be a setting what the browser is configured. Pro'ly can be changed
14:29:29  <Ammler> yes
14:29:31  <planetmaker> but making it text/html is definitely a bad idea IMO
14:29:39  <planetmaker> because it's a browser thing.
14:29:40  <Ammler> I don't care how it is  now.
14:29:55  <FooBar_> I'd say leave the mime-type in then. If it's only IE...
14:30:01  <Ammler> no
14:30:06  <Ammler> it isn't just IE
14:30:07  <planetmaker> well. Having a quick look it helps to have a decent view, not mangled like now
14:30:19  <Ammler> it is how you configured your os
14:30:58  <Ammler> ie is included in the os, so obviously it likes to use the os text editor, like Konqueror in KDE
14:31:39  <Ammler> Firefox and Opera are standalone browser, so they handle it a bit other.
14:32:00  <FooBar_> heh, I'm not even using Microsoft's text editor :P
14:32:01  <planetmaker> might be. But apple's safari handles it directly, too.
14:33:22  <Ammler> well, apple :-P
14:33:36  <Ammler> does that count?
14:34:01  <planetmaker> just FYI: My IE handles a txt also inline w/o opening anything
14:34:11  <planetmaker> <-- tested witht hat
14:35:05  <Ammler> hmm, that txt file will be opened also inline :-o
14:35:20  <Ammler> what is the difference?
14:35:53  <FooBar_> My IE opens that particular file in text mode as well...
14:36:38  <planetmaker> But works for me inline, too. Right now
14:37:02  <planetmaker> so I prefer the current situation to stay :-)
14:37:37  <planetmaker> works nicely as intended on all three browsers (IE FF, Safari)
14:39:03  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #416: 747-400 Co-Ordinates @ (by Beardie27)
14:39:03  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #417: 747-400D Co-Ordinates @ (by Beardie27)
14:42:22  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #419: 747-400D Co-Ordinates @ (by Beardie27)
14:42:22  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #418: IL62 Co-Ordinates @ (by Beardie27)
14:42:22  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #417 (Rejected): 747-400D Co-Ordinates @ (by Beardie27)
14:42:22  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #418 (Assigned): IL62 Co-Ordinates @ (by Beardie27)
14:44:42  <planetmaker> Ammler: :-)
14:44:44  <planetmaker> [16:43]	<planetmaker>	hehe
14:44:45  <planetmaker> [16:44]	<Rubidium>	how can I upload the release? Or do you have to do that?
14:54:01  <Ammler> he can :P
14:54:09  <planetmaker> how?
14:54:39  <Ammler> how would you do it?
14:54:44  <Ammler> scp or what ever :P
14:54:48  <Ammler> sftp
14:54:49  <planetmaker> scp
14:54:59  <planetmaker> but his key is only in hg-repos :-P
14:55:26  <Ammler> the cf key has full access for user openttd
14:55:41  <planetmaker> the openttd cf key?
14:55:42  <Ammler> or you move him to full
14:55:51  <planetmaker> haha :-)
14:55:57  <planetmaker> yeah, could do that
14:56:18  <Ammler> well, we have a bit chaos with those 2 users
14:56:36  <Ammler> ottdc openttd redmine hg
14:57:04  <planetmaker> which is like 2x2 users :-P
14:57:10  <Ammler> the official user for the bundles is openttd
14:57:16  <Ammler> but the compile farm runs on ottdc
14:57:26  <Ammler> so it is better to use that user
14:57:30  <planetmaker> so... should I add him to openttd?
14:57:41  <planetmaker> or ottdc?
14:57:57  <Ammler> well, if you add him to openttd, you need to be sure, openttd can write to that location
14:58:23  <Ammler> the compile farm runs as ottdc and needs access too
15:00:53  <Ammler> I see no issue to give Rubi member access to the server
15:01:10  <Ammler> as he would have it already anyway with the CF key
15:01:23  <planetmaker> yes. I granted it to him
15:01:34  <planetmaker> and it's not like we cannot trust him, I think
15:01:41  <Ammler> hmm
15:01:46  <Ammler> :-)
15:01:52  <planetmaker> he usually knows what he does. But that might be the danger :-P
15:01:56  <planetmaker> hackorz!
15:02:18  <Ammler> well, comments about all our security flaws are welcome :-)
15:02:51  <planetmaker> :-)
15:02:53  <Ammler> I would say it is more a level of trust
15:03:12  <planetmaker> than...?
15:03:15  <Ammler> nobody on the world likes to do bad things with openttdcoop
15:03:29  <planetmaker> :-)
15:30:09  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 394: Started 747-400 Co-ordinates @ (by Beardie27)
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16:18:01  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: nightly compile not needed. (r228)
16:18:02  <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r187)
16:18:02  <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r36)
16:18:02  <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r142)
16:18:02  <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r165)
16:18:03  <Brot6> opensfx: update from r9 to r13, starting nightly compile
16:18:23  <Brot6> opensfx: compile done (0 errors) -
16:18:23  <Brot6> worldairlineset: update from r393 to r394, starting nightly compile
16:18:58  <Brot6> worldairlineset: compile done (0 errors) -
18:00:21  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 166: Feature: Modern office block in tropical climate (closes #105) @ (by planetmaker)
18:00:21  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #105 (Closed): Sprites 4623:4625 (3) - Modern office block @ (by planetmaker)
18:04:06  <Brot6> opengfx: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
18:24:54  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: nightly compile not needed. (r228)
18:24:54  <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r187)
18:24:55  <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r36)
18:24:55  <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r142)
18:24:55  <Brot6> opengfx: update from r165 to r167, starting nightly compile
18:25:28  <planetmaker> Ammler: is there an easy way to just trigger one project?
18:25:37  <Ammler> yes :-)
18:25:42  <Ammler> but too late now :P
18:25:46  <planetmaker> :-P
18:25:59  <planetmaker> to me it sounds like time for alpha6
18:26:05  <Brot6> opengfx: compile done (0 errors) -
18:26:06  <Brot6> opensfx: nightly compile not needed. (r13)
18:26:06  <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r394)
18:26:38  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 167: Feature: First construction stage of two-tile tower in tropical climate (... @ (by planetmaker)
18:26:38  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #104 (Closed): Sprites 4614:4619 (6) - Modern office block @ (by planetmaker)
18:27:13  <Ammler> nice work planetmaker
18:27:29  <planetmaker> just adding bits and pieces. And don't look at the pcx of #105
18:27:50  <planetmaker> it's aligned like after a granade impact.
18:28:01  <planetmaker> not ingame, but in the pcx
18:28:16  <Ammler> :-)
18:28:38  <Ammler> is there any bug to fix?
18:28:59  <planetmaker> and #104... the cellar of the building is not symmetrical - but that may even be so in reality :-)
18:29:01  <Ammler>
18:29:10  <planetmaker> House alignments are off according to some tickets
18:30:31  <planetmaker> I would out-source those errors to alpha7
18:30:42  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #351: Action Colors & Other @ (by Ammler)
18:30:55  <planetmaker> or are there really signals missing (e.g. not replaced by others at least temporarily?)
18:31:14  <Ammler> after that, no alpha anymore, I would say :-)
18:31:44  <Ammler> FooBar_: around?
18:31:44  <planetmaker> or like that, yes :-)
18:31:57  <planetmaker> captain oh captain!
18:32:40  <planetmaker> hm... we cannot upload to bananas, can we? Neither you nor me, right?
18:34:27  <Ammler> well, foobar is around
18:34:48  <Ammler> else we could ask Rubi or TB, but that isn't important now
18:43:30  <FooBar_> I was around...
18:43:34  <FooBar_> then I was away...
18:43:38  <FooBar_> and now I'm back! :P
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18:44:38  <FooBar_> The signals that are missing are the British-style semaphores
18:44:59  <FooBar_> andythenorth: yes, I'm back from holidays for a few days now :)
18:48:36  <planetmaker> hm... add them, FooBar_ :-)
18:48:48  <planetmaker> I want a release :-P
18:49:02  <planetmaker> where are those signals used?
18:49:09  <planetmaker> I never noticed missing signals.
18:49:17  <FooBar_> In the UK :P
18:49:27  <FooBar_> well, let me explain...
18:49:59  <FooBar_> The OpenTTD base file features two types of semaphores. Which one you get depends on your road vehicle drive side setting.
18:50:50  <FooBar_> When I added the semaphores to OpenGFX, I only added the German style version for all cases, leaving the British style out
18:50:52  <planetmaker> ok. I guess I never play left-side traffic :-)
18:51:12  <FooBar_> Me neither, but some left-side players complained ;)
18:51:18  <planetmaker> :-P
18:51:23  <planetmaker> bastards
18:51:36  <FooBar_> I think #77 is most important for alpha6
18:52:01  <FooBar_> And by that I mean the original #77: the misalignment of one single house, which is off quite a bit
18:52:46  <FooBar_> What if I do that one right now and then we do a tag-and-release?
18:52:50  <planetmaker> yeah. ok. I can look at it.
18:52:55  <planetmaker> :-)
18:53:07  <planetmaker> or that way. I thought the signals are there, at least in a draft version
18:53:59  <FooBar_> Well, I initially planned to reuse MB's original drawings...
18:54:16  <planetmaker> but don't bee to quick with tagging. It needs a changelog which I'm preparing right now :-)
18:54:25  <planetmaker> ...but?
18:54:38  <FooBar_> But with the new one-way PBS signal, both MB's and BA's need a little work to be usable
18:54:58  <FooBar_> err...
18:55:08  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 168: Feature (issue #380): Moved OpenTTD only features to the end and added Ac... @ (by Ammler)
18:55:16  <FooBar_> MB's doesn't, as OpenTTD still uses that currently...
18:55:19  <FooBar_> silly me :S
18:55:45  <planetmaker> :-) Then add them :-)
18:55:51  <FooBar_> Well, let me start off with the house :)
18:56:08  <planetmaker> I'm more fit with houses than signals. I can look at that, if you like
18:57:17  <FooBar_> well, I think it's three minutes work...
18:57:21  <Ammler> OpenGFX is now compatible to patch without patch and special make
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18:57:39  <FooBar_> good work, Ammler!
18:57:50  <FooBar_> did you use an action9?
18:57:50  <Ammler> no work, just moving and testing :-)
18:57:53  <planetmaker> nice! good job
18:58:16  <Ammler> well, make could make files who are called like the originals
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18:59:29  <Ammler> FooBar_: yes, Action7/9 was the issue
19:00:21  <Ammler> we could also make a 2nd file now
19:00:53  <FooBar_> well, if we don't need one...
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19:03:43  <andythenorth> burr...anyone point me to any instructions for compiling OpenTTD on Mac (leopard).  I thought there was a thread, but search didn't find it...
19:04:28  <andythenorth> ah....winner:
19:04:37  <FooBar_> Hi Andy!
19:04:45  <FooBar_> I was about to point you there :P
19:05:02  <planetmaker> andythenorth: you basically only need the devtools (xcode) and a RCS, like svn or hg
19:05:15  <planetmaker> then checkout the stuff and run ./configure && make in the repo and you're done
19:05:21  <planetmaker> hm... maybe some libs
19:05:54  <planetmaker> FooBar_: you're fixing the house offset?
19:06:28  <FooBar_> planetmaker: well, I'm trying... I thought I had it, but nothing changed. Maybe I disaligned something now...
19:06:58  <planetmaker> :-D
19:07:02  <planetmaker> better revert then
19:07:09  <FooBar_> no, wait... something happened to the building...
19:07:32  <Ammler> :-)
19:07:39  <planetmaker> :-)
19:11:30  <FooBar_> I have it now :)
19:11:37  <planetmaker> good!
19:14:34  <FooBar_> And the commit is there :)
19:14:39  <FooBar_> I think...
19:15:06  <FooBar_> shall I add the semaphores then?
19:15:14  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 169: Fix (issue #77): Building misalignment @ (by foobar)
19:18:37  <planetmaker> oh ... yeah, add the semaphores. Would be nice and fitting to have no ingame sprites missing anymore - except in toyland
19:19:23  <planetmaker> mind that I commited the changelog...
19:19:31  <planetmaker> e.g. pull before you commit
19:21:32  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 170: Doc: Add the changelog from 0.1.0-alpha5 to now @ (by planetmaker)
19:23:26  <Ammler> hmm
19:23:28  <Ammler> readme
19:24:33  <planetmaker> good point
19:24:33  <Ammler>
19:24:51  <Ammler> shall I add my changes to the txt readme or do we copy it again?
19:27:03  <Ammler> "The OpenGFX base graphics set is currently not complete yet, but is already very playable." <-- could be altered a bit
19:27:44  <planetmaker> add them to the txt, I say
19:28:06  <planetmaker> and yes, I agree, could be altered. One credit is missing: drginaldee
19:28:28  <planetmaker> in the www-readme
19:28:35  <planetmaker> not in readme.ptxt
19:29:25  <planetmaker> added
19:31:45  <Ammler> ok, added my changes to the ptxt
19:32:38  <Ammler> IMO, we should rename the wiki page and make the txt file as the official readme
19:34:09  <FooBar_> Maybe just put a link on the wiki that points to the latest text file readme
19:34:56  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 171: Doc: add my changes from wiki readme @ (by Ammler)
19:35:16  <Ammler> yes, but still keep it as it is now
19:35:46  <planetmaker> ok... I add my short paragraph concerning sound sets to the readme, too?
19:36:09  <Ammler> and a better version of the quote I pasted?
19:36:41  <Ammler> something like everything except Toyland complete :-)
19:37:42  <planetmaker> that's not true. Manager faces...
19:39:09  <Ammler> wasn't there a guy, who once liked to make them?
19:39:17  <planetmaker> yes...
19:40:39  <planetmaker> "The OpenGFX base graphics set is not yet complete. Albeit only a number of toyland sprites and some manager faces are still missing."
19:41:35  <planetmaker> maybe adding "Thus playing the "usual" three climates is now completely supported." ?
19:42:59  <Ammler> according to tropic church, if the feature and the fix is in same version, no need to mention the fix, imo.
19:43:05  <Ammler> (in the changelog)
19:43:22  <planetmaker> good point. slipped my attention. I'll remove it.
19:44:00  <andythenorth> So I have a successful compile run of OpenTTD....seems the app is in 'bin'?  How do I use it?  I thought I'd get a Mac binary, seems not
19:44:17  <planetmaker> of course you do
19:44:22  <planetmaker> bin/openttd &
19:44:29  <planetmaker> or ./bin/openttd &
19:44:32  <planetmaker> in an xterm
19:44:41  <planetmaker> I never start an app :-)
19:44:50  <planetmaker> if you want that you need "make bundle"
19:45:00  <planetmaker> hm... no... "make bundle_dmg"
19:45:31  <andythenorth> ta
19:45:52  <andythenorth> seems to be working so far...
19:45:53  <planetmaker> but I never make bundle for openttd. No need.
19:47:03  <andythenorth> FooBar_: are you busy at the moment (generally)? I want to figure out whether to work on FIRS, or something else.  Or even RL (shock)
19:47:16  <planetmaker> don't disturb him :-P
19:47:21  <FooBar_> lol :P
19:47:45  <Ammler> FooBar_: bug #74 is a missing feature
19:49:13  <planetmaker> indeed
19:49:15  <FooBar_> andythenorth: at the very moment I'm working on OpenGFX. More generally I have to study for exams the next two week. After that I don't know yet. The start of a new year at university usually comes with a load of RL stuff...
19:49:58  <planetmaker> all of that: no need not to work on any particular project :-P
19:50:02  <planetmaker> and now :-x
19:50:11  <planetmaker> enough of bad sayings from here.
19:50:16  <planetmaker> for the next 30 seconds
19:50:19  <andythenorth> summer exams?  not good
19:50:22  <FooBar_> I'll try to do some more stuff on FIRS as soon as I have some time left. That can be either coding some industries or figuring out the more advanced code, so there's still enough for me to do :)
19:50:51  <andythenorth> ok
19:51:02  <andythenorth> I guess I should learn how to make layouts
19:51:04  <FooBar_> yes, summer exams... I'm used to those; it's like the fourth year I have summer exams :P
19:51:22  <Ammler> andythenorth: btw. we have a FIRS server running at #openttdcoop
19:51:31  <Ammler> did you see it?
19:51:31  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Revision 14: -Add: sound for crashing tree (closes #404) @ (by Rubidium)
19:51:32  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Revision 15: -Add: sound for falling tree (closes #405) @ (by Rubidium)
19:51:32  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Revision 16: -Fix: shorten chainsaw sound so the chainsaw + falling tree + crashing tre... @ (by Rubidium)
19:51:32  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Feature #404 (Closed): Sample 54: Falling tree @ (by Rubidium)
19:51:34  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Feature #405 (Closed): Sample 55: Tree dragged through forest @ (by Rubidium)
19:51:37  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #280: standard signals @ (by Ammler)
19:51:40  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Revision 17: -Fix (r4): typo in BaNaNaS. @ (by Rubidium)
19:51:42  <andythenorth> Ammler: not yet
19:51:51  <planetmaker> :-O
19:52:16  <FooBar_> Layouts isn't hard. You need a piece of paper and a pencil and then some very basic understanding of the code involved. I can do some documentation on that particular part of the code if you like (but not right now)
19:52:53  <Ammler> andythenorth: at to be specific
19:53:35  <andythenorth> FooBar_: ok, I might get to it.  I think with FISH I've bitten off more projects than I can realistically work on.
19:53:41  <andythenorth> So I've been doing nothing :o
19:53:49  <Ammler> :-D
19:54:03  <Ammler> that is something I know very well
19:54:04  <FooBar_> doing nothing from time to time isn't bad...
19:54:20  <FooBar_> now to see if the semaphores work...
19:54:21  <Ammler> If you have too many open projects, you rather do nothing :-)
19:54:30  <andythenorth> how do I join the FIRS server?  I never do multiplayer (but I have the server list open)
19:54:45  <Ammler> andythenorth: you need the specific revision
19:55:09  <Ammler> join , then I can provide you the links
19:59:17  <andythenorth> Ammler: grr...lost web traffic.  Got IRC, but no www.   Might have to restart ADSL...
19:59:32  <Ammler> hze
19:59:36  <Ammler> sounds like DNS issue
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20:03:13  <FooBar_> only toyland still uses the old semaphores...
20:03:37  <planetmaker> that's fine...
20:03:46  <planetmaker> though, if you're at it :-)
20:04:13  <FooBar_> well, the fact that we end up with like four sets of signals in ogfx_extra strikes me a bit...
20:04:55  <FooBar_> thats 960 signal sprites alone
20:05:25  <FooBar_> but yes, while I'm at it...
20:05:27  <planetmaker> :-O
20:05:40  <planetmaker> well... copy&paste, isn't it?
20:05:52  <FooBar_> more or less, bit of stiching together as well
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20:11:41  <FooBar_> alright, that's that then
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20:15:13  <FooBar_> I also updated changelog.ptxt
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20:15:58  <planetmaker> uh oh.
20:16:05  <planetmaker> I have changes for readme and changelog.txt
20:16:16  <FooBar_> well, then you better do a merge then...
20:16:22  <FooBar_> :P
20:16:22  <planetmaker> yeah. go ahead
20:16:30  <planetmaker> no need to merge, I haven't commited
20:16:32  <FooBar_> I already pushed... :$
20:16:54  <Ammler> tagged?
20:16:58  <FooBar_> not tagged
20:17:00  <planetmaker> not yet, wait
20:17:11  <Ammler> :-P
20:17:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 172: Feature #74: British semaphore style @ (by foobar)
20:17:27  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #74 (Closed): other semaphore type missing @ (by foobar)
20:17:51  <FooBar_> are we doing an alpha7?
20:18:34  <Ammler> I wouldn't create that yet
20:18:43  <Ammler> we will see, if there is need
20:18:53  <FooBar_> ok, then I move #77 to beta1. That's the remaining building issue
20:19:29  <planetmaker> ok, update of readme and changelog commited.
20:19:31  <planetmaker> tag?
20:19:34  <FooBar_> And all-of-a-sudden the roadmap is from 81% to 100% :P
20:19:51  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 173: Doc: Mention OpenSFX as 'sister project' in the readme and update changelog @ (by planetmaker)
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20:19:56  <FooBar_> yes, I think you can tag, but first see if it compiles properly...
20:20:11  <planetmaker> good point :-)
20:20:38  <FooBar_> It should though, as it worked here...
20:21:04  <FooBar_> let me check the stable openttd as well...
20:21:25  <Ammler> nice work guys :-)
20:21:43  <planetmaker> works nicely
20:21:51  <planetmaker> with trunk
20:22:00  <FooBar_> yes, with 0.7.2 also
20:22:05  <planetmaker> don't belittle yourself, Ammler :-)
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20:23:23  <planetmaker> tag pushed
20:25:01  <planetmaker> FooBar_: does your bananas account for OpenGFX work?
20:25:06  <FooBar_> then I'll upload it to bananananananananash
20:25:39  <FooBar_> It worked previously, so I don't see why it shouldn't work this time )
20:25:41  <FooBar_> :)
20:26:02  <planetmaker> well... assuming that you were away I asked Rubi whether he would upload... and I could now as well.
20:26:07  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Revision 174: Added tag 0.1.0-alpha6 for changeset f7916bbe339c @ (by planetmaker)
20:27:38  <Ammler> he :-)
20:27:48  <Ammler> so he moved opengfx to your account?
20:27:55  <planetmaker> dunno
20:28:00  <Ammler> or did he create a opengfx account
20:28:00  <planetmaker> that's what I wonder.
20:28:07  <planetmaker> it's the old one
20:28:20  <planetmaker> with my login accessible
20:28:35  <Ammler> well, afaik there is no sharing
20:28:47  <Ammler> so foobar can't upload the release anymore.
20:28:50  <planetmaker> but maybe it allows also two accesses - jut not for end users.
20:28:59  <planetmaker> afaik it's only a front-end issue
20:29:05  <Ammler> oh :-o
20:29:07  <planetmaker> not a database issue
20:29:33  <planetmaker> but I don't really know. That's why I asked FooBar_ :-)
20:30:05  <FooBar_> It seems I can update it, which is what I'm doing atm...
20:30:13  <planetmaker> nice! :-)
20:30:22  <planetmaker> and good that both of us can do that :-)
20:30:34  <FooBar_> I wonder if I should have made bananas instead of bundle...
20:30:51  <Ammler> yes
20:30:57  <planetmaker> there's no bananas target
20:31:03  <Ammler> tar then?
20:31:08  <FooBar_> well, it doesn't want the changelog...
20:31:11  <planetmaker> just bundle
20:31:21  <planetmaker> and then upload the stuff it likes. Exactly ^
20:32:01  <planetmaker> FooBar_: cat changelog.txt >> readme.txt
20:32:15  <planetmaker> add it to the tail of readme.txt
20:32:25  <planetmaker> before you upload
20:34:41  <FooBar_> you shouldn't have asked me if my bananas account worked :P
20:34:46  <FooBar_> anyways, it's there now
20:35:30  <planetmaker> hm?
20:35:38  <planetmaker> why shouldn't I?
20:35:55  <FooBar_> because then you could do all the combining of files and stuff :P
20:36:22  <planetmaker> :-)
20:36:33  <planetmaker> Na, I don't want to rip the project from you
20:36:52  <Ammler> well, make bananas should do the job :-P
20:37:15  <FooBar_> I wouldn't call that ripping... You did more for this particular release than I did...
20:37:20  <planetmaker> well... I have OpenGFX access not anymore
20:37:26  <planetmaker> at least it seems like.
20:38:02  <planetmaker> wonder why it changed right now. Well. nvm
20:38:03  <FooBar_> make: *** No rule to make target `bananas'.  Stop.
20:38:11  <planetmaker> yes, I know. No such target
20:38:40  <FooBar_> "make clean && exit" :)
20:38:50  <planetmaker> won't help. You cannot make bananas
20:38:53  <FooBar_> I'm done for tonight :)
20:38:58  <planetmaker> uploaded?
20:38:59  <planetmaker> cool
20:39:21  <FooBar_> yes, it's already downloaded 2 times :)
20:39:22  <planetmaker> and yes, I'm done, too
20:40:24  * planetmaker downloads OpenGFX and OpenSFX
20:45:46  <Ammler> tt-forums annoucement :P
20:46:23  <Ammler> and btw. is there a thread about OpenSFX?
20:48:50  <FooBar_> the bundle server tells me that there's a thread...
20:49:16  <FooBar_> I'll do the announcement in the meantime then... :)
20:54:36  <planetmaker> I just did a tt-forums announcement
20:54:45  <planetmaker> he... :-P
20:54:50  <FooBar_> no you didn't...
20:54:52  <planetmaker> I just read this when I was done
20:54:56  <planetmaker> Of course
20:54:59  <FooBar_> at least not in the topic where I did mine...:P
20:55:04  <planetmaker> But not in the release thread
20:55:18  <planetmaker> that was on the 6th(?) page when searching for OpenGFX
20:55:30  <FooBar_> the release thread is a sticky...
20:55:32  <planetmaker> and only scatters OpenGFX topics IMO
20:55:35  <planetmaker> oh?
20:55:46  <Ammler> :-)
20:55:49  <planetmaker> no one reads stickies
20:56:06  <planetmaker> I mostly ignore them :-P and always only look at the "new posts" page
20:56:11  <planetmaker> it's my entry to the forums
20:56:33  <FooBar_> ah. Well, two announcements in two different topics isn't bad advertisement :P
20:56:50  <planetmaker> :-)
20:56:55  <Ammler> he
20:56:58  <planetmaker> anyway. Good night for now.
20:57:09  <planetmaker> We did quite a lot today, and that was good :-)
20:57:11  <Ammler> pm should move his post :P
20:57:18  <planetmaker> Ammler: to...?
20:57:27  <Ammler> where it belongs ;-)
20:57:38  <Ammler> but it is fine :-)
20:57:38  <planetmaker> blog? ;-)
20:58:01  <FooBar_> good night to you too! And thanks!
21:13:51  <Ammler> good night
21:14:03  <Ammler> (added the ttdpatch version, btw.)
21:15:28  <planetmaker> meh. The TTDP capability is missing in the changelog :-(
21:16:07  <planetmaker> but blog post posted
21:17:43  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #280: standard signals @ (by athanasios)
21:23:16  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Bug #280 (Confirmed): standard signals @ (by Ammler)
21:24:28  <FooBar_> I'm off, 'night!
21:49:25  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Revision 18: -Add: monkey sound (issue #411) @ (by Rubidium)
22:00:52  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 395: Close #416 Finished 747-400 co-ords @ (by Beardie27)
22:00:52  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #416 (Closed): 747-400 Co-Ordinates @ (by Beardie27)
22:04:06  <Brot6> opengfx: Backup push to ssh:// initiated.
23:28:04  *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC
23:29:47  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenSFX - Revision 19: -Add: bird sounds (issue #411) @ (by Rubidium)

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