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01:14:32 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Revision 2704: (svn r2855) Reset the default language for the test, autotest was caught... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/2704 (by edavis10) 01:14:32 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Revision 2705: (svn r2856) Changing l10n messages (fixes #3807) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/2705 (by winterheart) 01:31:55 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: UK Bus Set - Support #552: Bus template @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/552#change-1351 (by welshdragon) 01:33:37 <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 98M) 01:33:37 <Brot6> Everybody is going somewhere!! It's probably a garage sale or a disaster Movie!! 04:42:32 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 04:42:37 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v DJNekkid 04:47:00 *** DJ_Nekkid has quit IRC 08:50:45 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:50:57 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Chris_Booth 08:56:03 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:56:09 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v andythenorth 09:11:26 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 09:16:00 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 09:40:19 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:40:24 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v DJNekkid 09:46:26 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:46:31 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v andythenorth 10:00:20 <andythenorth> FISH and ships, FISH and ships.... 10:00:27 <andythenorth> in RL boats are generally a bit slow. 10:00:45 <andythenorth> Is it massively wrong to tweak the speeds up by a couple of knots? 10:01:50 <welshdragon> in RL a sailing clipper can be quite fast 10:02:47 <andythenorth> I'm thinking diesel-powered cargo ships / river boats 10:03:00 <welshdragon> hm 10:03:07 <welshdragon> they are slow 10:03:28 <welshdragon> river boast have a maximum permitted speed of 5 knots 10:03:32 <andythenorth> about 12 knots for a typical coaster, 10 knots for a typical barge 10:04:08 <andythenorth> so 11-14mpg 10:04:10 <andythenorth> oops 10:04:13 <andythenorth> 11-14mph 10:04:26 <andythenorth> MB used 21-25mph in new ships 10:04:58 <welshdragon> andythenorth: 12? 10:05:14 <welshdragon> i was sure that river boats are limited to 5 knots 10:05:43 <andythenorth> limited maybe, but capable of about 10 knots in open water 10:05:44 <welshdragon> but yeah, double the speed? 10:06:04 <andythenorth> I am thinking around 18mph for most boats 10:06:15 <andythenorth> If used with FIRS, the cargo rates for bulk cargo are pretty flat 10:20:04 *** DJ_Nekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:20:09 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v DJ_Nekkid 10:22:12 <Ammler> andythenorth: you should make the ships realstic to the game, not to real world. If you get what I mean. ;-) 10:25:08 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 10:54:44 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 11:46:46 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:46:52 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Doorslammer 11:54:21 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #528: Add liveries for planes we already have coded. @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/528#change-1352 (by FaddyPainter) 11:58:09 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:58:13 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Frankr 12:00:27 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: #openttdcoop - Wiki edit: Welcome (#21) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/16/wiki/Welcome?version=21 (by planetmaker) 12:00:27 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #545 (Assigned): Ekranoplan? @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/545#change-1340 (by simozzz_AK) 12:41:31 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:41:36 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v andythenorth 12:50:54 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 93: Change: set Coaster speed to 19mph @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/93 (by andythenorth) 13:11:17 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 13:34:31 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:34:36 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v DJNekkid 13:35:58 *** DJ_Nekkid has quit IRC 13:42:33 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 14:12:55 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:13:10 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v ODM 14:17:25 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:17:29 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v DJNekkid 14:17:34 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:18:59 *** Frankr has quit IRC 14:20:12 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:20:17 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v andythenorth 14:20:25 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:20:30 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Frankr 14:23:44 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #553: Change Header @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/553 (by Frank) 14:32:03 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: UK Bus Set - Support #552 (Assigned): Bus template @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/552#change-1354 (by welshdragon) 15:56:18 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: UK Bus Set - Support #554: Multiple Liveries, Different engine and Body Types @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/554 (by welshdragon) 16:18:01 <Brot6> 2cctrainset: nightly compile not needed. (r267) 16:18:02 <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r217) 16:18:02 <Brot6> fish: update from r90 to r93, starting nightly compile 16:18:20 <Brot6> fish: compile done (3 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/nightlies/ 16:18:21 <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r169) 16:18:21 <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r200) 16:18:21 <Brot6> opensfx: nightly compile not needed. (r41) 16:18:22 <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r532) 16:27:38 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 94: Change: correct offsets for Small Coaster (thought I did that already, but ap... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/94 (by andythenorth) 16:27:38 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 95: Add: pnfo file for Traders @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/95 (by andythenorth) 16:31:54 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 96: Change: correct offsets for Island Trader @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/96 (by andythenorth) 16:32:28 <DJNekkid> hey andy... did i figure out how to do bigger/smaller capacity? 16:32:54 <DJNekkid> btw Ammler; could you post the code for the logic engine? 16:33:18 <andythenorth> DJNekkid: not yet. I've got enough tips, but no working code. I'm doing costs at the moment instead. 16:33:56 <DJNekkid> you see, i think i might have an idea 16:34:22 <Ammler> DJNekkid: http://trac.openttdcoop.org/browser/grfdev/logic/makegrf 16:34:59 <andythenorth> DJNekkid: frosch has given me a solution 16:35:14 <DJNekkid> rly? 16:35:57 <andythenorth> in the #openttd logs from earlier today 16:39:03 <Ammler> andythenorth: why do you post the grf on tt-forumst all the time? 16:39:10 <Ammler> you could just link to the nightlies 17:53:19 <andythenorth> Ammler: ^^ I can see the download counts on the forums 17:53:34 <Ammler> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/log.csv 17:53:59 <andythenorth> planetmaker: is there a way to comment in a pnfo file? 17:54:09 <Ammler> andythenorth: use // 17:54:16 <Ammler> and -C in gcc 17:54:40 <Ammler> shall I update your makefile that way? 17:55:09 <andythenorth> let me explain my use case first... 17:55:40 <Ammler> we had to do that in the other projects, like ogfx, 2cc and firs, too. 17:56:02 <andythenorth> I have fish.pnfo which specifies the other pnfo files to use to build the grf. I want to comment some lines to do a release of only the finished ships 17:56:31 <Ammler> oh, you wan't to comment something out for gcc itself? 17:56:40 <Ammler> afaik "#" 17:57:05 <andythenorth> Ammler: Makefile:97: *** multiple target patterns. Stop. 17:57:23 <andythenorth> http://paste.openttd.org/216743 17:58:11 <Ammler> hmm, that isn't preprocessor file 17:58:28 <Ammler> why does it have extension pnfo? 17:58:39 <andythenorth> dunno, I just used what planetmaker helped me setup 17:58:45 <Ammler> that looks more like hnfo :-) 17:58:59 <Ammler> (or whatever) 17:59:19 <andythenorth> well if there's no easy answer I'll just delete the lines 18:03:04 <Ammler> yes, and revert it after 18:03:35 <Ammler> I consider that as fault of planetmaker, need to ask him about. 18:04:05 <Ammler> if you include something in the gcc way, it should be something like #include <file> 18:05:23 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 97: Change: correct buy, running, speed, life properties for Coasters, River Boat... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/97 (by andythenorth) 18:05:23 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: FISH - Revision 98: Change: hide lots of ships by climate or remove from fish.pnfo file @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/98 (by andythenorth) 18:05:27 <Ammler> but he could add another sed like d/^#" to fish. 18:25:26 *** Frankr has quit IRC 18:41:41 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 18:44:49 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 18:50:55 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 19:18:43 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:18:48 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v andythenorth 20:57:25 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: UK Bus Set - Support #552: Bus template @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/552#change-1356 (by jonty-comp) 21:15:40 *** jonty-comp has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:15:45 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v jonty-comp 21:15:49 <jonty-comp> boo 21:16:00 * jonty-comp is following the SSH setup thing on yonder website 21:16:11 <jonty-comp> for I am now the developer of the UK Bus Set! 21:18:45 <Ammler> jonty-comp: do you like to use the newgrf framework from pm? 21:19:03 <jonty-comp> well, I'm just sorting out these key things 21:19:19 <jonty-comp> I'm alright with hg and that, so whatever suits you 21:19:31 <Ammler> no whatever suits you :-) 21:19:46 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: UK Bus Set - jonty-comp.public_key.txt @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/387/jonty-comp.public_key.txt (by jonty-comp) 21:19:52 * jonty-comp has a a key already, but it's an SSH2-DSA one, rather than the SSH2-RSA the website suggests 21:19:55 <jonty-comp> oh, it's that 21:19:57 <jonty-comp> :O 21:20:47 <Ammler> dsa is fine, I use that too. 21:20:53 <jonty-comp> great 21:20:58 <Ammler> isn't that dss? 21:21:06 <jonty-comp> oh, yes 21:21:08 <jonty-comp> ha 21:21:12 <Ammler> well, nvm :-) 21:21:14 <jonty-comp> I always mix these things up 21:21:19 <jonty-comp> I've had that key for years anyway 21:21:50 <jonty-comp> it says "dsa-key-20071229" in my putty comment anyway :p 21:21:57 <Ammler> I will install your key, but there is no repo for the set. yet. 21:22:29 <Ammler> shall I setup a blank repo and you prepare it self? 21:24:07 <jonty-comp> well 21:24:28 <jonty-comp> I say I've used hg, I've never actually committed to one before, but I've still used lots :p 21:24:45 <Ammler> well, push is like pull :-) 21:24:53 <jonty-comp> useful 21:25:04 <jonty-comp> it's not too hard to work out anyway 21:25:25 <Ammler> yep, there is a quickquide on our wiki 21:25:31 <jonty-comp> excellent 21:25:52 <jonty-comp> I'll prepare it then, it will let me learn how to use it more properly! 21:26:18 <Ammler> or I initiate a blank repo then. 21:29:24 <Ammler> ok, your repo is there 21:30:00 <jonty-comp> ssh://ottdc@mz.openttdcoop.org/hg-repos/ukbusset ? 21:30:07 <Ammler> exactly 21:30:12 <jonty-comp> excellent 21:31:04 <jonty-comp> oh, it says "no supported authentication methods available" 21:31:37 <Ammler> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/hg/newgrf_makefile/archive/tip.zip <-- the newgrf framework from pm 21:33:57 <Ammler> if you don't have any code experience, I highly recommed using it, together with djnekkids template 21:35:01 <jonty-comp> I'll restart in a minute, then see if the tortoisehg will clone 21:36:30 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:36:35 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v Frankr 21:44:56 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:36:51 <Brot6> ::DevZone:: UK Bus Set - Wiki edit: Wiki (#1) @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/48/wiki/Wiki?version=1 (by welshdragon) 23:10:09 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:10:14 *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v PeterT 23:11:04 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 23:25:21 *** PeterT has left #openttdcoop.devzone 23:45:32 * welshdragon knocks 23:56:10 <Frankr> welshdragon: some problem? 23:57:05 <welshdragon> i was wondering if the uk bus set could use a similar graphics style to the FISH set, but andythenorth has gone...