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10:03:07  <planetmaker> hm... WAS troubles?
10:03:32  <planetmaker> what's the point with released grfs... it's GPL after all?
10:12:15  <Ammler> \o
10:12:37  * Ammler just mentioned the ugly release, the others were a bit annoyed
10:12:43  <planetmaker> hello dear Ammler :-)
10:12:59  <planetmaker> ah, it was meant to be a release? Ok...
10:13:03  <Ammler> exspotter did make the release without talk.
10:13:11  <planetmaker> ok, that's bad.
10:13:31  <Ammler> and the release was worse than the the nigtlies.
10:13:38  <planetmaker> ups?! How that?
10:13:56  <Ammler> a plain grf, no txt files
10:14:11  <Ammler> and the last nightly compile had around 40 errors
10:14:16  <planetmaker> oh, you mean no documentation, license, etc?
10:14:24  <Ammler> yes.
10:14:38  <planetmaker> ok, then it's a GPL violation, I see.
10:14:58  <Ammler> I recommended them to public the link to the nightlies instead of releasing a alpha
10:15:17  <planetmaker> Well, then one should point to the nightlies and tell people that a release will come as soon as some further things are fixed IMO
10:15:25  <planetmaker> yeah, I fully concur with you
10:15:27  <Ammler> :-)
10:15:34  <Ammler> again :-P
10:15:39  <planetmaker> hehe
10:15:46  <planetmaker> great minds think alike :-P
10:16:02  <planetmaker> but I think I'm hungry ;-)
10:16:10  <Ammler> yes, bon appetit.
10:16:19  <planetmaker> merci. :-)
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15:45:58  <Ammler> Mercurial 1.3 installed, something cool there?
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16:18:02  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: nightly compile not needed. (r271)
16:18:02  <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r217)
16:18:02  <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r134)
16:18:03  <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r169)
16:18:03  <Brot6> nmts: nightly compile not needed. (r14)
16:18:03  <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r203)
16:18:04  <Brot6> opensfx: nightly compile not needed. (r41)
16:18:06  <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r546)
16:37:33  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 547: A380-8F sprites easier, 739 Korean @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/547 (by Frank)
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17:06:37  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 548: 744 changes Korean @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/548 (by Frank)
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17:07:32  <Beardie> Hey :)
17:10:34  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 549: Added in DC10-30 pcxs and nfo @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/549 (by Beardie27)
17:13:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 550: Fixed A380-8F error @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/550 (by Frank)
17:13:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #415 (Closed): B744D Nfo Details @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/415#change-1442 (by Beardie27)
17:13:58  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #414 (Closed): B744 Nfo Details @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/414#change-1443 (by Beardie27)
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17:43:54  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 551: Added new IL62 Liveries @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/551 (by Frank)
17:52:17  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 552: Added ANA 772 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/552 (by Frank)
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17:57:18  <planetmaker> moin
17:57:53  <DJNekkid> hi guy :)
17:58:15  <planetmaker> :-) Salut DJNekkid :-)
17:58:40  <DJNekkid> or even that :)
17:58:48  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 553: Added B747-400 NFO, PCX, also Edited Ids and Corrected 7F Fil... @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/553 (by Beardie27)
17:58:48  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 554: Merged r552 and r553 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/554 (by Beardie27)
17:59:50  <DJNekkid> im just trying to figure out a good way to apply train names and P-list texts in 2cc2 :)
18:00:08  <planetmaker> :-)
18:00:21  <planetmaker> use them as #define
18:00:34  <DJNekkid> yes ofcourse...
18:00:48  <planetmaker> #define STR_TNAME_ICE3 93
18:01:13  <planetmaker> #define STR_PTEXT_ICE3 F3
18:01:21  <planetmaker> where 93 and F3 are the IDs
18:01:34  <planetmaker> did you look at FIRS for the detailed implementation?
18:01:40  <DJNekkid> yes...
18:02:11  <DJNekkid> this one is just a bit more ... complicated :)
18:02:18  <planetmaker> Oh? :-)
18:02:31  <planetmaker> what's the prob?
18:02:51  <DJNekkid> im not sure yet :p
18:03:32  <DJNekkid> i just need to sit down and see what i needed :)
18:04:49  <planetmaker> :-)
18:04:58  <planetmaker> That'd be a good first step.
18:05:00  <DJNekkid> the action0 is quite nico tho :)
18:05:19  <DJNekkid> excel + preprocessor = win
18:05:33  <planetmaker> I'm currently not at home and my time might vary. But if you break it down nicely, I'm more likely to find time to at least look at parts of it :-)
18:05:44  <planetmaker> This situation will last at least another two weeks
18:05:51  <DJNekkid> i know the feeling...
18:06:03  <DJNekkid> i've been working close to 60hr weeks the last month or two
18:06:08  <DJNekkid> its getting better now tho
18:06:17  <planetmaker> :-) Good for you!
18:06:23  <DJNekkid> however, i want a life outside of TT as well :)
18:06:43  <planetmaker> of course. It's essential
18:07:01  <planetmaker> And don't neglect your wife ;-) She deserves certainly better than neglectance :-)
18:07:14  <DJNekkid> i dont!
18:07:24  <DJNekkid> yesterday we saw a movie! :p
18:07:29  <planetmaker> :-)
18:07:30  <DJNekkid> even in the cinema!
18:07:49  <planetmaker> Go and give her spontaneously a hug ;-) :-P
18:08:03  <DJNekkid> i do that ALL the time! :)
18:08:32  <planetmaker> (I didn't mean to say you do; just wanted to say that that piece of life is more rewarding ;-) )
18:12:38  <planetmaker> and much better than sitting in a lab, wearing laser safty glasses and beaming a 1Watt laser into some random direction, looking for... dust ;-)
18:14:54  <planetmaker> not to forget the breath-mask and latex gloves when opening the whole experiment...
18:15:34  <DJNekkid> hmm... i prefer fiber optic cables :)
18:15:42  <DJNekkid> but, 1watt laser ... thats QUITE much!
18:23:56  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #195 (Closed): Add Iberia Colour Scheme to Sheet @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/195#change-1444 (by Beardie27)
18:23:56  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Feature #192 (Closed): Add Spanir Air Colour Scheme to Colour Scheme Sheet. @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/192#change-1445 (by Beardie27)
18:29:30  <DJNekkid> planetmaker: can i define a sentance ?
18:30:04  <DJNekkid> #define I_AM_COOL I am cool
18:32:06  <DJNekkid> or
18:32:07  <DJNekkid> #Define WORD_LS Loading Speed
18:32:08  <DJNekkid> ? :)=
18:32:57  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Bug #496 (Closed): 737-400 Alignment @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/496#change-1451 (by Beardie27)
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18:40:40  <andythenorth> hello
18:40:46  <DJNekkid> hi andythenorth
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18:56:19  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 555: Rename of Dash ID @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/555 (by Frank)
18:59:16  <planetmaker> DJNekkid: in principle yes
18:59:22  <planetmaker> but that's not translatabel
18:59:50  <DJNekkid> but a few things can:
19:00:25  <DJNekkid> http://paste.openttd.org/217069
19:00:29  <DJNekkid> like that for example
19:03:28  <DJNekkid> http://paste.openttd.org/217070
19:06:32  <DJNekkid> dont u agree ?
19:23:31  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 556: Added Ukraine Tu154m @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/556 (by Frank)
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20:10:59  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 557: Added Dash 8-400Q Qantas Liveries @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/557 (by Beardie27)
20:11:00  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 558: Merged r556 + r557 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/558 (by Beardie27)
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20:35:56  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 559: Added two Fokker Liveries PNG F100s @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/559 (by Beardie27)
20:49:41  <Frankr> beardie
20:56:05  <Beardie> on phone to rachel
21:37:47  <andythenorth> good night
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21:50:38  <planetmaker> DJNekkid: yes, that looks like proper. But http://paste.openttd.org/217070 is a language file, isn't it? :-)
21:51:41  <DJNekkid> well, the start of one :)
21:52:19  <planetmaker> well, yes.
21:52:50  <planetmaker> Actually I still would like to do on the language files some heavy pre-processing so that translators can get something similar like OpenTTD translators get.
21:53:19  <planetmaker> but such thing can always be implemented in order to generate what you posted
21:53:42  <planetmaker> so, yes, we first do i that way like you did :-)
21:54:03  <DJNekkid>  hehe, oki doki :)
21:55:19  <planetmaker> #
21:55:21  <planetmaker> // MU Names:
21:55:23  <planetmaker> #
21:55:25  <planetmaker> -1 * 0  04 00 LANG_ID \b1 ID_TGV_D_B "                 TGV Duplex"                   00
21:55:50  <planetmaker> ^^ That should be rather STR_TGV_D_B instead of ID_TGV_D_B, as the strings surely have another ID than the vehicle itself
21:56:16  <planetmaker> every stringID should have STR_ as prefix
21:56:28  <DJNekkid> but thats not a string id
21:56:32  <DJNekkid> its a vehicle id
21:56:47  <planetmaker> oh :-P
21:57:17  <DJNekkid> basicly it is "apply a name to a vehicle ID"
21:57:52  <planetmaker> ok :-)
21:57:55  <planetmaker> then all is fine
21:58:05  <planetmaker> as I see now. But I'm exhausted and tired
21:58:24  <DJNekkid> hehe! too many 1w lasers looking for dust?
22:03:09  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 560: Fixed all Purchase List Errors @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/560 (by Frank)
22:03:09  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 561: r557, r560 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/561 (by Frank)
22:04:00  <planetmaker> :-P yeah
22:04:07  <planetmaker> but now good night :-)
22:04:15  <DJNekkid> hehe
22:05:07  <DJNekkid> but why dont WORD_CC change into whats its supposed to?
22:05:33  <DJNekkid> #define and not #Define ? :)
22:05:43  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 562: 1F Dutch Update @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/562 (by Frank)
22:12:26  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 563: All Tupolev Tu154M White Errors Fixed @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/563 (by Beardie27)
22:12:26  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 564: Merged r562 and r563 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/564 (by Beardie27)
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22:16:26  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 565: Few Errors Fixed @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/565 (by Frank)
22:30:26  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 566: Fixed DC10-30 White Errors and Added PNG From Tu154M @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/566 (by Beardie27)
22:55:09  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 567: Corrected F100 White Errors @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/567 (by Beardie27)
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23:00:11  <Ammler> Beardie: Frankr, alpha Release ready? :-P
23:00:23  <Frankr> not yet
23:00:28  <Ammler> :-D
23:00:34  <Frankr> we are currently working on errors
23:00:44  <Frankr> i've fixed all the purchase list problems
23:00:58  <Frankr> we have around 90 errors tho
23:02:01  <Ammler> well, I was just joking, take your time ;-)
23:02:23  <Beardie> well its not far off.
23:02:49  <Beardie> Lots of White Errors Again Ammler :D
23:03:05  <Ammler> yeah, I saw in the last nightly compile
23:03:07  <Beardie> fun fun fun
23:03:21  <Beardie> other than that everyhting is looking good
23:03:25  <Beardie> for a Alpha
23:03:31  <Ammler> cool
23:03:57  <Beardie> got some ideas for a Beta Release then after that we head towards releasing a actually Version (V)
23:04:40  <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/versions/show/35 <-- 8 open tickets :-)
23:28:28  <Beardie> Yes Ammler soon to be less :D
23:28:42  <Beardie> does help when i moved some over to beta Roadmap lol
23:38:07  <Beardie> Ammler when we create a GRF using Make its says Done 99% has it ever done 100%?
23:38:33  <Beardie> Or Will It?
23:38:44  <Ammler> grfcodec?
23:38:50  <Ammler> might not.
23:38:59  <Beardie> lol
23:39:04  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 568: White Error Correction @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/568 (by Frank)
23:41:31  <Beardie> Anyway Bye Ammler Good Night.
23:41:41  <Ammler> b
23:41:46  <Beardie> b?
23:41:49  <Beardie> lol
23:42:02  <Ammler> you use such shorts
23:42:15  <Beardie> lol
23:42:20  <Beardie> well i don;t personally
23:42:27  <Beardie> anway tired
23:42:29  <Beardie> see ya
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23:42:50  <Frankr> cya
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23:43:32  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: World Airliners Set - Revision 569: Correct All Of Dash 8 White Errors @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/569 (by Beardie27)

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