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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 7th November 2009:
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02:14:49  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Revision 2852: Add test:coverage task. @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/2852 (by jplang)
02:14:49  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Redmine - Revision 2853: Fixed: Pre-filled time tracking date ignores timezone (#4160). @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/2853 (by jplang)
02:33:33  <Brot6> Backup done! (Usage: 104M)
02:33:33  <Brot6> Is a tattoo real, like a curb or a battleship? Or are we suffering in Safeway?
03:37:24  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: OpenGFX - Feature #107: Sprites 4627:4674 (48) - Toyland: Buildings @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/107#change-1609 (by athanasios)
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08:52:02  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Bug #636 (Confirmed): Spam spam spam lovely spam @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/636 (by Hirundo)
08:59:13  <DJ_Nekkid> hi planetmaker...
08:59:15  <DJ_Nekkid> how is the head? :P
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10:12:19  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: 2cc train set - Revision 371: Change: Updates and cleanup in the .xls, plus adjusting some numbers @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/371 (by DJNekkid)
11:04:02  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/OpenTTD/2cctrainset/ initiated.
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11:13:40  <planetmaker> moin
11:31:00  <planetmaker> Ammler: where actually is the file which allows access via keys to the repos (as opposed to full ssh access)?
11:38:37  <Ammler> planetmaker: on the wiki, let me find it
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12:17:41  <planetmaker> he, did anyone check out athanasios wrappings for the iglu? They're lovely :-)
12:29:10  <Ammler> I so much looking forward to play toyland
12:29:24  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Bug #636: Spam spam spam lovely spam @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/636#change-1611 (by planetmaker)
12:29:48  <planetmaker> Ammler: tagging only after the CF pulled, right?
12:30:08  <Ammler> yes
12:30:18  <Ammler> well, I would wait until the cf is done :-)
12:30:32  <planetmaker> well, yes :-)
12:30:43  <planetmaker> beta5 preparation pushed
12:31:05  <Ammler> I create the svn patch for it
12:31:17  <planetmaker> ok
12:31:22  <planetmaker> And I'll ask Rubidium
12:31:53  <planetmaker> Rubidium: could you be so kind to trigger a compile of the IS2 repository?
12:32:09  <Brot6> is2: new trunk patch: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/is2/trunk-patches/
12:33:31  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 13762: Prepare: Release of beta5 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/13762 (by planetmaker)
12:33:49  <KenjiE20> :D
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15:04:06  <Brot6> is2: Backup push to ssh://hg@bitbucket.org/OpenTTD/infrastructure-sharing/ initiated.
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15:18:06  <Brot6> Web seems down, restarting apache
15:28:44  <Ammler> oh ups
15:29:08  <Ammler> my upgarde test might have failed :-)
15:29:28  <LordAzamath> YOU FAIL
15:29:29  <LordAzamath> :)
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17:18:02  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: update from r369 to r371, starting nightly compile
17:18:46  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: compile completely failed! :-( - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/2cctrainset/nightlies/compile-log/2cctrainset-FAILED-compile-error.log
17:18:47  <Brot6> bros: nightly compile not needed. (r10)
17:18:47  <Brot6> firs: nightly compile not needed. (r365)
17:18:48  <Brot6> fish: nightly compile not needed. (r159)
17:18:48  <Brot6> heqs: nightly compile not needed. (r169)
17:18:48  <Brot6> nmts: nightly compile not needed. (r15)
17:18:49  <Brot6> opengfx: nightly compile not needed. (r214)
17:18:51  <Brot6> opensfx: nightly compile not needed. (r43)
17:18:53  <Brot6> worldairlineset: nightly compile not needed. (r584)
18:04:45  <Hirundo> planetmaker: why did you patch company_gui.cpp when preparing beta 5?
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18:57:01  * Rubidium wonders why there are only settings for AIs: _settings_ai_sharing, STR_CONFIG_SETTING_AI_SHARING
19:00:13  <Ammler> Hirundo: planetmaker is known for Fix r<tip>-1 commits ;-)
19:02:26  <Rubidium> "Since memcmp/MemCmpT is not guaranteed to work properly for structs" <- in what case?
19:03:56  <Rubidium> you never had desync issues?
19:04:10  <Hirundo> If there are some unused bytes between struct members
19:05:21  <Rubidium> ah, that might matter if those unused bytes are random
19:06:00  <Rubidium> last_insolvency_news_date looks *very* fishy
19:06:11  <Rubidium> a) only company 0 is initialised, the rest might be random
19:06:48  <Rubidium> b) if you start a new game the values aren't reset so you won't get those news messages until you reached the last message in your previous game
19:07:24  <Hirundo> wrt. b), I agree
19:07:58  <Hirundo> wrt. a) I thought that in this case, unspecified members are initialized to zero
19:09:17  <Hirundo> "If there are fewer initializers than elements in the array, the remaining elements are automatically initialized to 0."
19:10:20  <Rubidium> what does say that?
19:11:51  <Rubidium> (trying to find it in the C++ specs)
19:12:23  <Hirundo> http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/comphelp/v8v101/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.xlcpp8a.doc/language/ref/aryin.htm, and http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/cclass/notes/sx4aa.html
19:12:24  <Webster> Title: 4.1.1 Array Initialization (at www.eskimo.com)
19:12:59  <Brot6> ::DevZone:: Infrastructure Sharing - Bug #637 (Confirmed): last_insolvency_news_date @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/637 (by Hirundo)
19:15:56  <Rubidium> ah, the C++ specs hide that very far away; saying arrays are default-initialized, which later for non-PODs turns into zero-initialized
19:16:16  <Rubidium> anyhow, fixing b would fix my issue with a too
19:16:54  <Rubidium> I've always disliked the fact that you can specify fewer initializers; it makes it so easy to make bugs by forgetting elements
19:18:52  <Rubidium> asserts in Cmd* are usually bad, i.e. exploitable
19:18:58  <Hirundo> I'll probably replace it with a (nosave) member on the company struct
19:19:39  <Hirundo> You mean assert(c->sharing_delay == 0); ?
19:19:45  <Rubidium> yes
19:20:00  <Rubidium> can't see any code that prevents that from being true at that point
19:20:14  <Hirundo> A failure there would mean an invalid state
19:20:59  <Hirundo> c->sharing_delay > 0 means that changes are pending, that code executes only if no changes are pending
19:26:24  <Hirundo> I'll have to go in a few minutes, I'll read any further comments in the logs
19:27:23  <Hirundo> Thanks for taking your time to review
19:55:01  <Rubidium> pm: the thingy's doing its thingy
20:18:13  <planetmaker> thank you, Rubidium :-)
20:18:20  <planetmaker> and especially also for the review
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