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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 2nd January 2010:
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01:58:36  <PeterT> devzone is down!
01:58:38  <PeterT> :-(
01:58:41  <PeterT> I can't download IS2.1.1
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11:21:39  <Hirundo> Can I create a new repository 'is2-patches' on redmine?
11:35:18  <Hirundo> planetmaker?
11:35:31  <planetmaker> of course
11:36:00  <Hirundo> I guess a repository is all we need, no need for more issue trackers etc
11:36:15  <planetmaker> hm, yes
11:36:49  <planetmaker> though... then the commits etc. are not linked. So, just disable all issue-trackers etc in that project and link it to the old one
11:37:35  <Hirundo> Well, if we copy each commit to the other repo, including its message, that should still work fine
11:38:24  <planetmaker> yup
11:39:34  <Hirundo> SCM dir should be /home/ottdc/hg-repos/is2-patches/, right?
11:39:55  <planetmaker> if you like to call it that way: yes
11:40:14  <Hirundo> Do I need to create that directory first, or does redmine do that automatically?
11:40:35  <planetmaker> redmine doesn't create it.
11:40:58  <planetmaker> do you have ssh access?
11:41:04  <planetmaker> otherwise I can quickly create it
11:41:38  <planetmaker> well. Done. Had a session anyway
11:41:43  <Hirundo> thanks
11:42:53  <planetmaker> you should now be able to clone yours to that remote dir
11:43:07  <Hirundo> Yes, will do that later this afternoon
11:48:35  <Ammler> I wouldn't make a new project
11:50:08  <Ammler> Hirundo: do you have the script ready for the server hook?
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13:22:19  <Hirundo> I'm thinking about how to do those trunk merges
13:23:53  <Ammler> Hirundo: will you merge those all at once or one branch per patch?
13:24:32  <Hirundo> All at once
13:24:52  <Hirundo> The sheer number of required merges was, for me, a reason not to use branches :)
13:27:18  <Ammler> well, because you solved the conflicts of the patches when you commit them, it should be easy to apply those
13:27:34  <Ammler> what is your issue?
13:29:00  <Ammler> we can symlink .hg/patches to is2-patches repo and use the mercurial tools to pop and apply patches
13:34:26  <Hirundo> I'll write down what I had in mind, one sec
13:39:58  <Hirundo> http://paste.openttd.org/220816
13:42:07  <Ammler> why revert?
13:42:48  <Hirundo> first revert to svn rev, then reapply all patches
13:44:05  <Ammler> shouldn't that be done automatically by pop the series?
13:44:36  <Ammler> hmm, I actually never worked with patch queue, just read the hgbook about :-)
13:45:18  * Hirundo thinks
13:46:59  <Ammler> what does qapply?
13:47:42  <Ammler> qpush I meant
13:48:16  <Ammler> so you qpop the patches, update the repo
13:48:42  <Ammler> update the patch queue to your modified and pushed patches
13:48:53  <Ammler> and qpush the patches again
13:52:09  <Ammler> Hirundo: your patch queue repo isn't on the server yet?
13:52:16  <Ammler> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/hg
13:54:58  <Ammler> hg qpush --all
13:54:59  <Ammler> hg pull -r`cat .hg/patches/.trunk.rev` -u
13:55:01  <Ammler> hg qpop --all
13:55:11  <Ammler> qpush<->qpop
14:02:25  <Hirundo> Point is that I want the main repo to be under revision control too
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14:40:19  <Hirundo> Ammler: http://paste.openttd.org/220818
14:44:48  <Ammler> Hirundo: how does that work, if you push more than one changeset?
14:45:27  <Hirundo> hg incoming hook is triggered after every changeset
14:45:41  <Hirundo> unlike the changegroup hook
14:45:43  <Ammler> hmm
14:45:49  <Ammler> ok :-)
14:47:27  <Hirundo> Is what I wrote translatable to a shell script?
14:48:54  <Ammler> ah, it isn't already?
14:50:09  <Ammler> $rev = `cat ../is2-patches/.trunk.rev` --> REV = `cat ../is2-patches/.trunk.rev`
14:50:21  <Ammler> I would use UPCASE for shell vars
14:50:55  <Ammler> and if you initialize it, you don't prefix with $
14:55:18  <Hirundo> whatever
14:55:48  <Ammler> well, but I guess, I can transform that to a bash script
14:56:06  <Ammler> theoretically, it could also be a python script :-)
14:56:34  <Ammler> but then, I need a working version from you, as I have no idea about that.
14:57:46  <Hirundo> Current version will fail, btw, since the repository contains multiple heads
14:58:14  <Hirundo> I could write this in python, though, which has the advantage that I can test locally
14:58:31  <Ammler> well, isn't the current repo a bit broken?
14:58:39  <Ammler> shouldn't we just make a new repo?
14:59:01  <Hirundo> I'd like to preserve it as a means to record the history
14:59:14  <Ammler> well, I didn't say trash it
14:59:29  <Ammler> just archive it :-)
14:59:43  <Ammler> maybe start with is3 ;-)
14:59:47  <Hirundo> I could merge the current heads with svn, so there's just one head remaining
15:02:18  <Ammler> heads counter, I would do like this: hg heads --template="{node}\n" | wc -l
15:02:46  <Hirundo> what does wc do?
15:03:05  <Hirundo> wordcount?
15:03:20  <Ammler> http://pastebin.ca/1735076
15:12:03  <Hirundo> how does wc handle a trailing newline?
15:12:47  <planetmaker> not a word
15:13:00  <planetmaker> but let's test
15:13:18  <Ammler> Hirundo: why does it matter?
15:14:16  <Hirundo> because hash1\nhash2\n has 3 lines, with the last being empty
15:14:43  <Ammler> marcel@inspiron:~/hg/is2> hg heads --template="{node}\n" | wc -l
15:14:45  <Ammler> 2
15:14:48  <planetmaker> wc -w $file
15:14:58  <planetmaker> returns only word count, empty lines are no words here
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15:23:48  <planetmaker> andythenorth: what does your xterm tell you, if you try to execute m4?
15:24:07  <planetmaker> e.g. do you have that installed?
15:27:05  <andythenorth> I can man m4
15:27:41  <andythenorth> 'm4' does nothing, but no error either
15:28:53  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14567: [IS] Change: Make head of 2.1 a closed branch. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/14567>
15:31:03  <Ammler> andythenorth: m4 --version
15:32:33  <andythenorth> GNU M4 1.4.6
15:34:54  <Ammler> so you have a working m4 :-)
15:38:21  <planetmaker> ok, thanks :-)
15:39:13  <planetmaker> I was just curious for reasons of nfo templates / macros etc. I don't want to consider something which will make it complicated for others - like you ;-)
15:39:32  <planetmaker> e.g. nothing new to install for you, so it *could* be used
15:40:09  <planetmaker> Now I need to know whether DJN has it, too :-)
15:44:08  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Infrastructure Sharing patches - Revision 0: Initial checkin of version 2.1.1 into the repository. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2-patches/repository/revisions/0>
15:44:26  <Ammler> didn't yorick once suggest it so mingw should have it too
15:46:00  <Ammler> why a new project?
15:46:06  <Ammler> Hirundo: ^
15:46:53  <Hirundo> basically to make the patch repo publicly available / viewable
15:48:49  <planetmaker> Ammler: yes, I *think* so, but I'm not sure and I'd like to ask him :-)
15:49:43  <Ammler> Hirundo: yes, but just for the repo, you don't need a project imo.
15:50:11  <Ammler> just add a Link to the repo on the overview
15:50:22  <Hirundo> hmm...
15:50:29  <Ammler> up2you
15:50:44  <Ammler> but isn't it enough to have one repo public, mainly?
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18:09:18  <Ammler> hmm, £600 for tt-forums?
18:12:38  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 413: Feature: one more layout for the Fishing Harbour <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/413> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 412: Change: Fishing Harbour modified boat lift sprites,... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/412> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 411: Change: Fishing Harbour shed tiles now slope aware <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/411> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 410: Change: Fishing Harbour empty tile slope aware <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/410> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 409: Change: improved layouts for Fishing Harbour <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/409> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 408: Change: improved layouts for Fishing Harbour <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/408> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 407: Change: improved layouts for Fishing Harbour <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/407> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 406: Change: Fishing Harbour significantly restructuring... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/406> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 405: Change: Fishing Harbour significantly restructuring... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/405> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 404: Change: Fishing Harbour significantly restructuring... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/404>
18:12:59  <Rubidium> yeah, petert with his stupid binaries
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18:28:00  <andythenorth> planetmaker: hai hai
18:29:25  <Ammler> Hirundo: you forgot the trunk.rev in the patch queue
19:09:11  <Hirundo> Forget is a big word, I didn't want to include anything until the system is in place
19:19:00  <Ammler> how do I clone the patch queue
19:19:25  <Hirundo> hg clone the patch repo to your local .hg/patches
19:19:58  <Ammler> hg qclone ssh://ottdc@openttdcoop.org/hg-repos/is2-patches
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19:20:25  <Ammler> you based the patch queue on openttd trunk?
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19:44:31  <Hirundo> yes
19:44:53  <Hirundo> r18649
19:46:54  <andythenorth> no errors when making FIRS :)
20:03:12  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 415: Change: found and fixed all errors / warnings due t... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/415> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 414: Add: nfo for Fish Processor <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/414>
20:13:30  <Ammler> Hirundo: are you sure, your patch queue is valid?
20:13:35  <Ammler> why do you ignore some files?
21:35:36  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #461: Fish Processor <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/461#change-1877> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 415: Change: found and fixed all errors / warnings due t... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/415> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 414: Add: nfo for Fish Processor <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/414> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 413: Feature: one more layout for the Fishing Harbour <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/413> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 412: Change: Fishing Harbour modified boat lift sprites,... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/412> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 411: Change: Fishing Harbour shed tiles now slope aware <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/411> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 410: Change: Fishing Harbour empty tile slope aware <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/410> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 409: Change: improved layouts for Fishing Harbour <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/409> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 408: Change: improved layouts for Fishing Harbour <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/408> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 407: Change: improved layouts for Fishing Harbour <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/407> || Infrastructure Sharing patches - Revision 0: Initial checkin of version 2.1.1 into the repository. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2-patches/repository/revisions/0> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14567: [IS] Change: Make head of 2.1 a closed branch. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/14567> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 406: Change: Fishing Harbour significantly restructuring... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/406> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 405: Change: Fishing Harbour significantly restructuring... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/405> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 404: Change: Fishing Harbour significantly restructuring... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/404>
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23:35:23  <Rubidium> 200 GB of OpenGFX has been downloaded via the content thingy :)
23:44:24  <planetmaker> now, not bad, given it's only 3.5MB per download or so :-)
23:44:56  <Rubidium> http://paste.openttd.org/220822
23:46:51  <Ammler> 14377 downloads from openttdcoop.org
23:46:57  <planetmaker> :-) what time span is that based on?
23:47:05  <Ammler> (0.2.1)
23:47:21  <Rubidium> planetmaker: since OpenTTD 0.1.0 :)
23:47:41  <planetmaker> oh, very short then :-) 14 days
23:47:45  <planetmaker> not quite
23:48:01  <Rubidium> it's 'all time'
23:48:14  <Rubidium> don't know when the content system went live
23:51:18  <planetmaker> @calc 200/3.5
23:51:18  <Webster> planetmaker: 57.1428571429
23:51:23  <planetmaker> wow
23:52:26  <planetmaker> and nice to see it used :-) It was worth it then :-)
23:52:33  <Rubidium> it excludes the windows installer downloads (of which there're probably no stats)
23:53:17  <planetmaker> so, even more :-)
23:53:28  <planetmaker> which might even be a non-negligible number
23:55:20  <Rubidium> yup
23:56:46  <Rubidium> any suggestions for someone to manage an 'OpenTTD title game for 1.0' election?

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