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15:58:11  <DJNekkid> damn, the freight wagon template is getting rather ... complicated :)
15:58:25  <DJNekkid> but; adding new wagons, _should_ be really really easy
15:58:46  <DJNekkid> but we might need to make a cargo translation table quite soon
15:59:52  <DJNekkid> unless we dont plan to have ECS/PBI/FIRS support gfxwise...
16:12:06  <planetmaker> well, we do. But having the GFX first doesn't hurt.
16:12:27  <planetmaker> I prefer to do most via classes. And only add those to the table which need explicit support
16:12:40  <planetmaker> (which might be quite some actually)
16:12:42  <DJNekkid> yup, but some do ...
16:12:49  <DJNekkid> all "open car" stuff...
16:13:02  <planetmaker> yup
16:20:55  <DJNekkid> why the CRAP is livestock Piece goods
17:00:56  <planetmaker> you hardly put livestock into a self-discharging hopper, do you?
17:01:01  <planetmaker> nor in a tanker
17:09:25  <DJNekkid> no...
17:09:32  <DJNekkid> but you can, on a flatbed
17:09:43  <DJNekkid> if you give it cargoclass 20 (piece goods)
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17:10:33  <planetmaker> flatbeds are not suitable for livestock
17:10:40  <DJNekkid> hehe, nope...
17:12:07  <DJNekkid> why i think they rather should be:
17:12:07  <DJNekkid> 9	200	covered/sheltered freight (any cargo needing moisture protection, i.e. transportation in box vans, silo wagons or containers required)
17:12:52  <planetmaker> yes. covered + piece good sounds good for lifestock, no?
17:13:02  <DJNekkid> yes...
17:13:24  <planetmaker> are there wagons which are not suitable for lifestock and fullfill that condition?
17:13:39  <DJNekkid> a "boxcar" ?
17:15:02  <planetmaker> hm... shouldn't it?
17:15:10  <DJNekkid> oh, sorry
17:15:21  <DJNekkid> i didnt read the "not" :p
17:17:17  <planetmaker> well, then it's settled: lifestock is piece + sheltered
17:17:34  <DJNekkid> hehe...
17:18:05  <DJNekkid> wanna convince some OpenTTD dev, and/or supply a patch? :P
17:18:30  <planetmaker> for what?
17:18:48  <DJNekkid> or, shal we "fix" that via the train-grf? :P
17:19:02  <planetmaker> what?
17:19:14  <DJNekkid> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=CargoTypes#Cargo_Labels
17:19:22  <DJNekkid> livestock IS piecegoods
17:19:51  <planetmaker> ah. Then it cannot be changed
17:19:59  <DJNekkid> it _can_
17:20:01  <DJNekkid> via newgrf :P
17:20:19  <planetmaker> yes. But that's not a change to be made in the source. It'd break all other newgrfs
17:20:30  <planetmaker> defined is defined. And it's defined for ages
17:20:46  <DJNekkid> hehe... :)
17:20:49  <DJNekkid> exactly :)
17:20:54  <DJNekkid> but that definition is wrong :P
17:21:00  <planetmaker> well... :-)
17:21:17  <DJNekkid> hehe
17:21:24  <planetmaker> so we need lifestock in the CTT and assign NOT lifestock to flatbeds
17:21:37  <DJNekkid> i know...
17:23:07  <planetmaker> Do we have a list of wagons and the gfx for special cargos somewhere?
17:23:21  <planetmaker> e.g. which cargos we have which have dedicated support?
17:23:25  <DJNekkid> no... well ... kinda ...
17:23:32  <DJNekkid> im trying to make that list...
17:24:19  <DJNekkid> what we _do_ have support for is all default cargos in the 3 "proper" climates
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19:12:34  <DJNekkid> planetmaker: didnt you make a newcargo spreadsheet once? is it working as intended?
19:20:48  <DJNekkid> DJNekkid: yes he did, wagon-cargos.ods
19:20:52  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Redmine - Revision 3122: Merged r3277 to r3279 from trunk. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3122> || Redmine - Revision 3110: Bulk edit view cleanup. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3110> || Redmine - Revision 3109: Allow bulk edit custom fields of any type (#461). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3109> || Redmine - Revision 3108: Fixed: bulk edit doesn't include global custom fields (#4505). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3108> || Redmine - Revision 3121: Translation updates. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3121> || Redmine - Revision 3107: Translation update. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3107> || Redmine - Revision 3106: Translation update. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3106>
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19:48:24  <DJNekkid> is it possible to let the preprocessor substract stuff?
19:48:41  <DJNekkid> #define THIS_WAG_NUM_CARGOS = THIS_WAG_NUM_CARGOS-1
19:48:45  <DJNekkid> or something similar
19:53:26  <DJNekkid> no, i dont need that, it can count itself
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20:04:44  <Paul2> THIS_IS_NUMBERWANG!
20:04:49  <Paul2> </helpful>
20:06:57  <DJNekkid> <dontunderstand>
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20:24:14  <Paul2> ah wait...are you from the UK?
20:24:25  <DJNekkid> .no :)
20:24:45  <Paul2> you will probably not find this funny, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGkQB0f1hks but there we go :)
20:24:46  <Webster> Title: YouTube - Number Wang (at www.youtube.com)
20:56:07  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Infrastructure Sharing patches - Revision 2: Update to trunk r18696 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2-patches/repository/revisions/2>
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21:09:36  <DJNekkid> planetmaker or Ammler online?
21:11:25  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 2cc train set - Feature #145: Redo (all) (cargo) wagons <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/145#change-1879> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14597: [IS] Update to trunk r18696 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/14597> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14595: [IS] Add .trunk.rev containing the latest trunk revision... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/14595> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 14596: (svn r18696) -Fix [FS#3404]: AITile::IsCoastTile returne... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/14596>
21:46:57  <planetmaker> what's up, DJNekkid ?
21:47:27  <DJNekkid> wanna have a look at thoose files i uploaded at bug 145?
21:53:13  <planetmaker> the idea looks good. If you like a more sound comment I have to stave you off to tomorrow
21:53:53  <DJNekkid> no problem...
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