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00:02:09 *** andy5345 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 00:02:30 <andy5345> cant seem to find the support irc channel 00:02:47 <andy5345> can someone quickly tell me what the criteria is for being able to use monorail? 00:02:57 <andy5345> X amount of money or time? 00:04:59 *** andy5345 has quit IRC 00:37:05 *** desrik has quit IRC 00:50:15 *** Yexo has quit IRC 06:30:16 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:24:29 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:35:57 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:11:50 *** ODM has quit IRC 09:54:23 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:14:28 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:22:04 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:23:05 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 270:f6348d8a5efd: Codechange: Remove _debug global var. (Alberth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/f6348d8a5efd 11:23:05 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 271:c3643feee8e6: Codechange: Remove unused variable. (Alberth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/c3643feee8e6 11:23:06 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 272:d62701b06f34: Codechange: Improve formatting of usage message a ... (Alberth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/d62701b06f34 11:31:33 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 273:e22c83cfd498: Fix: Close nml output stream after use. (Alberth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/e22c83cfd498 12:14:17 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 12:14:22 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:39:58 <DJNekkid> @logs 12:39:58 <Webster> Logs: http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/ 12:41:12 <DJNekkid> :) 13:29:14 <Alberth> not extremely useful, is it ? 13:38:03 *** Alberth1 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:38:03 *** Alberth is now known as Guest660 13:38:03 *** Alberth1 is now known as Alberth 13:44:40 *** Guest660 has quit IRC 13:59:58 *** Alberth1 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:59:58 *** Alberth is now known as Guest663 13:59:58 *** Alberth1 is now known as Alberth 14:04:52 *** Guest663 has quit IRC 14:26:50 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 14:46:55 *** desrik has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:00:38 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:27:26 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 16:33:22 *** Yexo has quit IRC 16:38:58 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:33:11 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:36:59 <Alberth> s/developed on http:/developed at http:/ ? 18:42:17 <Alberth> should nml generate program version checking code for features that it uses to implement its primitives? 18:42:49 <Alberth> to prevent activating the grf in an older program version 19:18:36 <planetmaker> g'day 19:20:21 <Alberth> hai 19:23:32 <planetmaker> sometimes it's amazing. One just goes somewhere to takes some images - and then it ends with "no one has ever gathered images this way - do you want to make a paper out of it?" 19:24:24 <Alberth> :) 19:25:14 <Alberth> you found new things too? 19:25:26 <Alberth> (in the images) 19:25:56 <planetmaker> maybe not new. But definitely some worth further investigation :-) 19:26:25 <planetmaker> No one ever understood charging so far ;-) 19:26:53 <Alberth> charging ? 19:27:07 <planetmaker> like the school experiment with the cat fur 19:27:13 <planetmaker> yes. 19:27:22 <Alberth> hai, physics :) 19:27:39 <planetmaker> there's no theory to explain the charge transfer as a function of material, friction speed etc pp 19:27:49 * Alberth was thinking astronomy images 19:28:05 <planetmaker> :-) I'm astrophysicis, but I work in a lab :-) 19:28:07 <Alberth> sounds interesting indeed 19:28:34 <planetmaker> But this will be an engineering paper ;-) 19:29:09 <planetmaker> high-speed 3D long-distance holographic microscopy :-P 19:30:10 <Alberth> I think you covered enough buzz words :p 19:30:35 <planetmaker> ;-) But only this combination is new ;-) 19:30:58 <Alberth> But yes, I can imagine just doing that is complicated enough to make a paper about it 19:31:05 <planetmaker> hehe. Yeah 19:31:28 <planetmaker> Thinking of that I only came here to test / qualify that piece of equipment, that's a nice outcome ;-) 19:31:39 * planetmaker is happy 19:31:43 <frosch123> [21:29] <planetmaker> high-speed 3D long-distance holographic microscopy :-P <- maybe you should offer that belugas for lunch break :p 19:32:12 <planetmaker> hm... why Belugas? 19:33:47 <planetmaker> ok, I'll feed it to him ;-) 19:33:59 <Alberth> he likes distractions :) 19:34:14 <frosch123> belugas always wants to do photos from far distance, and if they are even 3d :p 19:35:44 <planetmaker> hm... I don't have them on this computer :-) 19:36:11 <planetmaker> and... 3D is... only available through post-processing 19:52:25 <Alberth> I was hoping for some feedback on my comments two days ago in nml, but no luck so far 19:55:09 <planetmaker> oh... I was... working 9-21 all those days... what are those comments? 19:55:39 <Alberth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/991#change-2583 19:55:46 <Alberth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/995#change-2584 19:56:26 <Alberth> 12 hours work, 8 hours sleep, 1 hour eating, that should leave you 3 hours nml coding :p 19:56:43 <planetmaker> :-P 19:57:53 <planetmaker> Okay... should I break-down hours in detail? Wednesday: getup, dress & eat: 6:30..7:15. 7:30: pickup car at university, 7:45: leave from home (again) with luggage. 19:58:21 <planetmaker> 15h: arrive at company. 19:58:25 <Alberth> don't forget to reserve time for writing down all the details :) 19:58:26 <planetmaker> 22:30h finish working 19:58:35 <Alberth> nah, just kidding :) 19:58:35 <planetmaker> hahaha :-) 20:00:06 * planetmaker reads 20:00:56 <Alberth> thanks 20:02:15 <Alberth> I am not sure it is something we can decide about 20:02:34 <Alberth> s/it is/they are/ 20:03:02 <planetmaker> it's not IMHO, I don't feel qualified to judge it in its entirety 20:03:47 <Alberth> (08:42:30 PM) Alberth: should nml generate program version checking code for features that it uses to implement its primitives? 20:03:47 <Alberth> (08:43:02 PM) Alberth: to prevent activating the grf in an older program version <-- and this is another one, I think 20:04:24 <Alberth> but the great Yexo has left us at this time, it seems 20:05:00 <planetmaker> he... 20:05:16 <planetmaker> hm, indeed, not even online 20:05:52 <planetmaker> well. latest in 1.08 weeks we can ask him in person 20:06:09 <Alberth> :) 20:06:33 <frosch123> i guess you will have a hard time with figuring out which stuff was added when, and when it worked :p 20:06:59 <planetmaker> hm? 20:07:13 <frosch123> and if you also support ttdp, you are likely lost 20:07:33 <Alberth> oh, my new question :) 20:07:39 <frosch123> [22:03] <Alberth> (08:42:30 PM) Alberth: should nml generate program version checking code for features that it uses to implement its primitives? <- that one 20:08:19 <planetmaker> oh, thanks 20:08:20 <Alberth> the specs do state revisions and versions 20:08:34 <planetmaker> Alberth: for TTDP. But not for OpenTTD conclusively 20:08:53 <planetmaker> Some things OpenTTD does not support and it's not even mentioned 20:09:18 <planetmaker> So the documentation for OpenTTD-deviations from the specs is at best mediocre 20:09:20 <frosch123> it also depends at what detail you want to check. only general availability? or also availability of certain variables in certain callbacks? 20:09:27 <Alberth> we'll find out when somebody tries, I guess :) 20:09:37 <planetmaker> frosch123: the latter is IMHO the thing lacking most in that documentation 20:09:49 <Alberth> I'd say as precise as possible 20:09:54 <planetmaker> and where personally I'm lost time and again. 20:10:14 <frosch123> planetmaker: if it was mediawiki, i would likely have added ttdp 2.0, 2.5, 2.6, ottd 0.5 - 1.0 labels a year ago 20:10:17 <planetmaker> But of course I see where it came from 20:10:29 <frosch123> i even draw some 20:10:45 <frosch123> though they were ugly, i canceled it due to stupid tikiwiki 20:10:45 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:10:46 <planetmaker> frosch123: honestly I have toyed around the idea to transfer the content to the OpenTTD newgrf dev section 20:11:00 <andythenorth> evening 20:11:04 <planetmaker> also for stupid tiki-wiki reasons 20:11:08 <planetmaker> hai andythenorth 20:11:12 <frosch123> yeah, i guess that would happen somewhen :p 20:11:21 <planetmaker> :-P 20:12:17 <planetmaker> it can only be a matter of time 20:12:24 <planetmaker> But it has political consequences 20:13:07 <frosch123> well, having two places is also stupid 20:13:10 <planetmaker> Alberth: the position patch: does it already result in printing the line errors? It looks so small for such a big advantage :-) 20:13:17 <planetmaker> frosch123: yes, of course 20:13:33 <Alberth> no, it just gives a direction. 20:13:52 <Alberth> all AST nodes must first copy positions from the parser 20:14:06 <Alberth> otherwise they cannot generate a position with an error 20:14:18 <planetmaker> ah, ok... then I see how it would work. 20:14:22 <Alberth> so it is a lot of work, but badly needed imho 20:14:39 <planetmaker> frosch123: but how would one then initiate such move in a sane manner? 20:15:21 <Alberth> propose a format change, eg to a textual format instead of html ? 20:16:16 <Alberth> would make handling/tracking changes much simpler imho 20:16:22 <planetmaker> Alberth: you mean the NFO specs? 20:16:24 <frosch123> planetmaker: it needs some more. dalestan somewhat disappeared, so i would have no idea who could still edit the table of contents 20:16:36 <planetmaker> frosch123: mb 20:16:40 <planetmaker> (I think) 20:17:06 <Alberth> planetmaker: yep, or are both of you discussing something else? 20:17:24 <planetmaker> Alberth: we're discussing the home of the newgrf specs 20:17:43 <planetmaker> and their representation, the closely related nfo specs 20:17:55 <planetmaker> I guess, actually, the NML documentation could suck it up :-) 20:18:56 <planetmaker> Or OpenTTD gets a new document which outlines the specs as its documentation 20:19:12 <planetmaker> (Which would then be the even saner thing, as it belongs there) 20:19:27 <Alberth> nml is at a higher abstraction level, it would be a code-generator target description then 20:19:40 <planetmaker> But the disadvantage of such solution is: it's not as easy to contribute for non-devs as with a wiki 20:20:09 <planetmaker> that goes also for adding it to the nml project 20:20:18 <andythenorth> do non-devs contribute to the newgrf wiki? 20:20:26 <andythenorth> and if they do, is it actually useful? 20:20:30 <planetmaker> andythenorth: yes, I do. You do. foobar does 20:20:37 <planetmaker> mb does 20:20:37 <andythenorth> Umm 20:20:38 <Alberth> I have seen RBs name there :) 20:20:42 <frosch123> planetmaker: for the lowlevel stuff there really should only be one place. else some ttdp guy would assign some variable which is already assigned by ottd differently 20:20:58 <planetmaker> :-) 20:21:26 <frosch123> but for that is is sufficient to write "var <xy> taken, see description at <...>" :p 20:21:36 <planetmaker> :-P 20:21:53 <planetmaker> well. It would indeed be sufficient 20:22:31 <planetmaker> well, I'm not sure. I think the OpenTTD wiki allows to lock pages or make them editable only by some users or a certain user group 20:22:44 <planetmaker> I think the title page is a good example 20:22:59 <frosch123> i can lock pages, no idea whether that is group based 20:23:00 <planetmaker> As it allows user groups it could even go there 20:23:22 <planetmaker> media wiki certainly allows groups and corresponding rights management 20:23:29 <planetmaker> even lesser wikis allow that 20:24:27 <planetmaker> frosch123: you're certainly a wiki admin. Admins in that definition can do everything 20:24:51 <planetmaker> But you could probably generate a user group "NewGRFDoc" and assign single users to that group 20:24:53 <frosch123> well, i can do a lot at the wiki, just i do not know how to :p 20:25:01 <planetmaker> And grant them the right to edit pages in that group 20:25:10 <planetmaker> and dissallow everyone else to edit those 20:25:14 <planetmaker> he 20:25:34 <planetmaker> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights_management 20:25:35 <Webster> Title: Manual:User rights management - MediaWiki (at www.mediawiki.org) 20:32:13 <frosch123> i guess that would need activation elsewhere. anyway, do we actually need rights for newgrf stuff? ttdpwiki has none either 20:32:18 <andythenorth> wiki bleargh 20:32:38 <frosch123> ottd wiki only protects pages which were regulary spammed 20:32:52 <planetmaker> frosch123: it has for index. But honestly: I wouldn't really like it, yes 20:34:13 <planetmaker> I guess though, that no one can make the TTDP guys move "their" wiki from ttdpatch.net to openttd.org 20:35:01 <planetmaker> @calc 3! 20:35:47 <frosch123> planetmaker: well, but maybe they would move it to some mediawiki on tt-forums servers 20:38:01 <planetmaker> frosch123: possibly 20:38:11 <planetmaker> might be a good compromise 20:46:05 <Ammler> with nml, ttdp wiki gets obsolete :-) 20:46:39 <planetmaker> not quite :-) 20:46:47 <planetmaker> the newgrf specs need documentation 20:47:22 <Ammler> sorry, I just came home and didn't read something, just a loud thought :- 20:47:24 <Ammler> p 20:47:39 <planetmaker> :-) 20:48:10 <Ammler> newgrf spec is for nfo, but nml does grf 20:49:07 <Ammler> you don't document "actions" 20:51:32 <planetmaker> well... 20:52:03 <planetmaker> Alberth: the move_data_classes patch: is it 'only' code refactoring or does it change / fix the parameter issue? 20:52:17 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 20:53:31 <Ammler> planetmaker: frosch123, did any of you ever ask for "admin" rights on ttdp wiki? 20:53:47 <planetmaker> Ammler: I didn't 20:54:05 <frosch123> no, but the tikiwiki/mediawiki is more important than the admin-issue 20:54:08 <planetmaker> and I learnt that one doesn't ask for admin rights ;-) 20:54:23 <Ammler> yeah, not directly... 20:54:39 <frosch123> i only took the admin-issue as excuse to shoot down tikiwki :p 20:54:47 <planetmaker> :-P 20:56:08 <Ammler> but wiki.tt-forums.net as mediawiki might be a good thing... 20:56:17 <Alberth> It only moves code, ie it does not even refactor. I think it solves the cyclic imports mentioned, since the back-link to ast disappears (since I move the ast node referenced into the action node that links to it). Testing that is not exactly trivial however, perhaps I should first remove some more 'import *'s 20:57:25 <Ammler> but I fear noone of the responsible ttpatch people is active anymore 20:58:06 <Ammler> so the wiki "just" works but no maintenance 21:00:51 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:01:33 <Alberth> good night 21:02:34 <planetmaker> good night, Alberth 21:03:11 <planetmaker> Ammler: "just works" is not true: it needs an admin to edit the table of contents 21:03:45 <Ammler> yes, that needs maintenance which is gone since some later years 21:04:03 <planetmaker> that - and (obviously not only my) preference of mediawiki over tikiwiki would be reasons to change 21:04:08 * andythenorth ponders using industry var 67 21:04:53 <Ammler> planetmaker: the lack of maintenace also means nobody would help/agree on moving the wiki to an other place 21:05:18 <Ammler> so you might need to setup it self 21:06:56 <frosch123> Ammler: ttdp is not that dead 21:07:26 <frosch123> though dalestan posted last time in march, he logged in on 1st june 21:07:41 <Ammler> no patchman = quite much dead 21:07:47 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 898:4afbc542aa94: Fix: Wrong bauxite quantity at the spa... (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/4afbc542aa94 21:07:54 <frosch123> also if you contact wallyweb by pm instead of posting first on forums might help 21:08:13 <Ammler> wallyweb is for ttdpatch like I am for openttd 21:08:36 <Ammler> just a fan :-P 21:08:42 <frosch123> no, he is somewhat like the whole #openttd channel 21:08:50 <frosch123> 20% of userbase or so 21:09:23 <Ammler> he is the only user :-P 21:09:43 <Ammler> the rest of ttdp user are also devs or grf authors 21:09:50 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:10:05 <Ammler> hmm, wrong, he became grf author too 21:10:58 * andythenorth wonders whether to check var 67 as dword or byte? I just want an industry count as result 21:13:16 <Ammler> I assume, that josef is the only one, who can change permissions on the tikiwiki? 21:13:44 <frosch123> andythenorth: byte is enough 21:13:47 <Ammler> who does manage ttdpatch.net 21:14:00 <frosch123> Ammler: why do you need managing? 21:14:32 <Ammler> well, it could be helpful for migration 21:15:11 <Ammler> how you like to convert the wiki? 21:16:17 <andythenorth> scrape the content? 21:16:33 <planetmaker> Ammler: copy&paste? 21:16:39 <planetmaker> &edit 21:16:43 <frosch123> you need to reformat it anyway 21:17:03 <Ammler> yes, that is the way, if you do it "unofficial" 21:17:03 <frosch123> i do not think there is sane automatic way 21:18:12 <Ammler> if you do it that way, you could as good copy it to wiki.openttd.org 21:18:47 <frosch123> Ammler: copying would include removing in the old place, as there should not be two places 21:19:23 <frosch123> and if you do that without some discussion on tt-forums, and without some ttdp guys agreeing, welll... :p 21:19:47 <frosch123> hmm, 104 pages... 21:19:59 <frosch123> maybe there would be some use of automatic 21:20:38 <frosch123> even some more pages 21:20:46 <Ammler> maybe there exists some scripts to convert tikiwiki to mediawiki... 21:21:26 <Ammler> and if patchman would agree, the making it official is no issue 21:22:22 <planetmaker> there are scripts as a short google search reveals :-) 21:23:58 <Ammler> there is mainly no issue between openttd<->ttdpatch only tikiwiki<->mediawiki 21:24:09 <Ammler> so I don't think the patchers would be against 21:24:24 <planetmaker> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:TikiWiki_Conversion 21:24:25 <Webster> Title: Manual:TikiWiki Conversion - MediaWiki (at www.mediawiki.org) 21:24:34 <planetmaker> The known unsupported syntax includes tikiwiki syntax tables 21:24:46 <planetmaker> dunno if that's important 21:24:50 <andythenorth> frosch123: little trouble with var 67 :| 21:24:50 <andythenorth> http://paste.openttd.org/225919 21:25:00 <andythenorth> I am trying to check the count of industry 1A 21:25:05 <planetmaker> Ammler: of course they would be against it 21:25:14 <Ammler> why? 21:25:42 <Ammler> the only active wiki admin is MB 21:25:53 <Ammler> or is Dalestan also one 21:25:58 <planetmaker> he is 21:26:16 <frosch123> andythenorth: you lack the shifting, don't you? 21:26:20 <Ammler> and what would be the issue to make those 2 admin on the new wiki too? 21:26:38 <planetmaker> nothing. 21:26:45 <frosch123> Ammler: you do not need any admins 21:26:50 <planetmaker> But would they find the move sensible? 21:26:50 <Ammler> yes :-) 21:26:50 <andythenorth> frosch123: hmmm no shift 21:27:22 <andythenorth> frosch123: shift 0F seems to work :) 21:27:24 <andythenorth> thanks 21:27:38 <frosch123> shouldn't it be 10 ? 21:27:44 <Ammler> frosch123: the only useful job of admins is edit frontpage and delete 21:28:14 <Ammler> maybe you can start without, but not sure.. 21:28:16 <frosch123> and what of those would you need for newgrfspecs? 21:28:27 <Ammler> we had to do that on our coop wiki too 21:28:30 <andythenorth> frosch123: yes 21:29:30 * andythenorth is one step closer to clustered industries :0 21:30:24 <Ammler> frosch123: I think, you should mail patchman about that 21:31:24 <planetmaker> for conversion: Requirements 21:31:25 <planetmaker> * Admin access to your TikiWiki 21:31:27 <planetmaker> * Sysop access to a MediaWiki installation 21:31:28 <planetmaker> * Access to the TikiWiki database and the capability to perform MySQL commands 21:31:30 <planetmaker> * Python (not sure which version is required - we used 2.5.1) 21:31:30 * andythenorth tries the next step 21:31:31 <planetmaker> o to ensure it's parsed properly apply this patch from this bug 21:31:33 <planetmaker> * The python conversion script 21:31:51 <frosch123> Ammler: i do not know him at all 21:31:51 <planetmaker> hm... industrial areas? :-) 21:32:06 <Ammler> frosch123: who of the active devs does? 21:32:16 <andythenorth> ooh. clustering works :o 21:32:17 <Ammler> is is inactive since I know openttd 21:32:51 <Ammler> I mean, the question is, would he help to migrate 21:33:20 <Ammler> and if he would, it is best, when he tells it to the rest of the patchers :-) 21:33:40 <frosch123> Ammler: he is inactive since october 2006 21:33:41 <andythenorth> http://tt-foundry.com/misc/clustered_farms.png 21:33:51 <frosch123> so some should know him, especially those from #tycoon 21:34:15 <Ammler> yeah, orudge might be another person 21:34:17 <planetmaker> nice, andythenorth ! 21:34:21 <Terkhen> andythenorth: that's fantastic :) 21:34:38 <planetmaker> I asked orudge about mediawiki. But he's currently not online 21:34:51 <andythenorth> Terkhen: :) it's unfinished. I might commit it though. It needs some testing for map sizes 21:35:54 <Ammler> the other question is, do you really like to stick with nfo? 21:36:54 <Terkhen> andythenorth: I was about to start a game (first one in months); if you send me the diff file I can test it a little 21:38:04 <andythenorth> Terkhen: I've pushed it 21:38:10 <andythenorth> it only works for Arable Farms 21:38:15 <Terkhen> okay, let's see 21:38:15 <Ammler> clustered farms should be a bit more absent from towns... 21:38:42 <andythenorth> nah, some towns are surrounded by farms :) 21:38:48 <Ammler> hehe 21:39:25 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 899:59113ab92ac5: Change: test implementation of cluster... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/59113ab92ac5 21:39:25 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 900:6fa2b53f736b: merge (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/6fa2b53f736b 21:40:58 * andythenorth ponders doing something about scaling for map sizes :| 21:41:07 <Ammler> andythenorth: in such cases, a rollback, pull, commit would be easier 21:41:24 <andythenorth> true 21:41:42 <Ammler> as the push is declined anyway 21:42:10 <Ammler> and you have only one commit 21:43:01 <Terkhen> http://devs.openttd.org/~terkhen/screenshots/ <-- too many arable farms in a single cluster when playing in big maps 21:43:05 <andythenorth> http://tt-foundry.com/misc/clustered_a_bit_much.png 21:43:09 <andythenorth> same here :) 21:43:22 <andythenorth> he 21:44:20 * andythenorth looks for map size var 21:44:47 <frosch123> action d, read patch vars 21:45:08 <andythenorth> hmm 21:45:13 * andythenorth scratches head 21:45:54 <Terkhen> in smaller map sizes the problem is that almost all arable farms are in the same place, but seems playable 21:45:56 <planetmaker> those are also OpenTTD vars 21:46:23 <Terkhen> this probably will be solved if different types of farm can cluster together 21:46:35 <frosch123> you cannot access it directly from varact2, you need to copy it first into a grf parameter 21:46:45 <andythenorth> oh poop :| 21:46:54 <andythenorth> and it's a complicated format 21:47:30 <frosch123> the variable or the action? 21:48:15 <andythenorth> the variable 21:48:30 <andythenorth> the action is pretty simple, I guess I just have to duplicate a lot of varaction 2s 21:49:29 <frosch123> i guess you would need the SS part, and use the rotate operator to adjust the spawn-point count 21:50:19 <frosch123> though actionD also has shift operators 21:53:26 <andythenorth> scaling by map size can be a problem for another day :) 21:53:37 <andythenorth> Terkhen: I've broken something with arable farm closure :) 21:53:42 <andythenorth> they all close instantly 21:55:01 <Terkhen> oh, ok, I'll start with a previous revision then 21:55:17 <Terkhen> not that I'm going to play a lot today... I'm already sleepy 21:55:22 <andythenorth> me too 21:55:32 <andythenorth> I think I know what the problem is 21:55:38 * planetmaker , too 21:55:50 * planetmaker wishes a good night to everyone 21:56:22 <andythenorth> hmm....cb flags 21:56:29 <Terkhen> good night planetmaker 21:56:37 <andythenorth> 32 + 08 = 40 ....or 3A ?? 21:56:38 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:57:05 <Terkhen> 0x32? 21:57:07 <planetmaker> 40 21:57:17 <planetmaker> 0x32+0x08=0x40 ;-) 21:57:21 <andythenorth> cb flags are always a bit baffling 21:57:28 <planetmaker> err... :-P 0x3A 22:00:16 <andythenorth> Terkhen: fixed & pushed 22:00:45 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 901:3282041811a5: Fix: cb flag was wrong for Arable Farm (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/3282041811a5 22:01:31 <Terkhen> ok :) 22:05:42 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:11:08 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 902:a49b0b2713d9: Change: prevent Arable Farms clusterin... 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