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01:17:52 *** OwenS has quit IRC 01:20:19 *** OwenS has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 05:35:09 *** Rubidium has quit IRC 05:35:12 *** Rubidium has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:31:03 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 345:d7940442e1e5: Change: Add constants for train acceleration models (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/d7940442e1e5 06:41:26 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:50:22 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 346:427fa3989ace: Doc: Add documentation for railtypes (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/427fa3989ace 07:31:17 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 913:b6eaa354828a: Fix: Fruit and Vegetables cargo had wr... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/b6eaa354828a 08:51:53 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 40:42117fa3562f: Feature: Allow to really use base set independent tunnels (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/42117fa3562f 09:01:29 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 41:751bf8d7a247: Change: Make base set independent tunnels the default. ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/751bf8d7a247 09:03:28 <planetmaker> ^ Ammler should be happy now. I am, too 09:04:24 <planetmaker> thanks for your quarrelling. It made me really look at the tunnel sprites option. And it works not too bad. Just no custom tunnel sprites 09:04:31 <planetmaker> But custom tracks inside tunnels. Which is fine 09:05:43 <Ammler> he :-) 09:09:34 <Ammler> well, it a conses, someone could now miss the nice irwe tunnels :-P 09:15:29 <planetmaker> they can still be enabled by parameter1 09:15:37 <planetmaker> but not recommended for MP 09:16:52 <planetmaker> It's getting to be a nice rail set :-) 09:22:02 <Ammler> can't start ttdpatch with it 09:23:13 <planetmaker> hm, no? 09:23:21 <planetmaker> why? 09:24:21 <Ammler> wine: Unhandled division by zero at address 0x60e37f (thread 001f), starting debugger... 09:24:23 <planetmaker> half of the source code is dedicated to TTDP. If that's useless... 09:24:32 <Ammler> :-D 09:26:03 <Ammler> it works, if I remove swedishrails.grf 09:26:32 <planetmaker> eh? 09:26:36 <planetmaker> hm 09:27:01 <Ammler> well, at least you tried :-P 09:27:09 <Ammler> maybe it works on windows 09:27:34 <Ammler> @wiki ttdp 09:27:37 <Webster> TTDPatch - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=ttdp 09:33:12 <planetmaker> hm... graphical mis-alignments with snow sprites... 09:39:35 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 42:6412aef97636: Fix: Some snowy sprites were slightly mis-aligned (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/6412aef97636 09:43:53 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 43:646b32552809: Fix: Alignment of overlay tracks (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/646b32552809 09:52:15 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 44:67fb6a9251b6: Fix: Random typo (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/67fb6a9251b6 10:13:45 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 347:47ee09204de0: Doc: Explain the usable graphics blocks for rail t... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/47ee09204de0 10:38:12 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:03:47 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 45:fbcb84e2d074: Fix: ignore the correct files (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/fbcb84e2d074 11:03:47 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 46:8e928080394c: Change: Add some preliminary depot sprites (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/8e928080394c 11:18:16 <Ammler> planetmaker: you are coding quite fast :-P 11:18:28 <Ammler> release 0.2.0? 11:19:03 <planetmaker> probably soonish, yes 11:19:16 <planetmaker> Irwe is providing sprites fast, too :-) 11:19:20 <planetmaker> Very responsive 11:20:21 <Ammler> foundations are only ActionA and Action5, I guess? 11:25:00 <planetmaker> probably 11:26:15 <planetmaker> nml is fun. And the sprite alignment tool 11:26:25 <planetmaker> Both make things soooo much easier and more accessible 11:31:13 <Ammler> didn't touch any newgrf dev since the new debugger is in openttd 11:34:19 <planetmaker> you should. It's sheer joy :-) 11:37:57 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 47:2d0f8064592e: Change: Use special sprites for tracks inside tunnels (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/2d0f8064592e 12:25:38 *** Yexo has quit IRC 12:25:54 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:29:03 <Yexo> hello 12:29:51 <Yexo> planetmaker: this template: "template ground_tile(x, y) { [x, y, 64, 31, -31, 0, 9] }" might help for swedishrails too, saves you from copying the width/height/xoffset/yoffset for tile sprites every time 12:40:55 <planetmaker> hi Yexo 12:41:02 <planetmaker> Thanks :-) 12:43:30 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 48:c3976b0de202: Fix: Use improved track sprites for normal tunnels (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/c3976b0de202 12:43:30 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 49:9460382f27d5: Fix: Improve alignment of South-East-facing depot (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/9460382f27d5 12:48:04 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 50:421159b03fbe: Doc: Add a template for default ground tiles including ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/421159b03fbe 12:52:38 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 51:612c419dfc32: Doc: Update changelog (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/612c419dfc32 12:54:16 <Brot6> swedishrails: compile of 0.2.0 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/swedishrails/releases/ERROR/0.2.0 12:54:57 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 52:abd5a2c558aa: Added tag 0.2.0 for changeset 612c419dfc32 (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/abd5a2c558aa 12:55:30 <planetmaker> ^ Ammler it probably used an old version of NML... 12:55:53 <Ammler> planetmaker: yesterday nightly 12:56:01 <planetmaker> too old, I I think 12:56:05 <Ammler> :-) 12:56:18 <Yexo> yes, indeed :) 12:56:23 <Yexo> it used r326 12:56:41 <Ammler> any idea :-) 12:57:06 <Yexo> about the error? just update nml and it'll be fixed 12:57:38 <Yexo> to be specific update to r336 or later 12:57:50 <planetmaker> ^ :-) 12:57:57 <Ammler> planetmaker: so wait for 18:18 and push again 12:58:10 <planetmaker> hm 12:58:33 <planetmaker> is any commit sufficient or do I have to retract the tag? 12:59:00 <Ammler> I fear, you need to change the HASH 12:59:09 <planetmaker> :-( 12:59:23 <Ammler> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/swedishrails/releases/ERROR/HASH <-- that is what will be compared 12:59:39 <Ammler> if that doesn't change, it won't recompile 12:59:41 <planetmaker> Then I'll upload it manually. Or I just delete that dir there on the server... 12:59:48 <Ammler> yes 13:00:02 <Ammler> just delete ERROR on bundles 13:00:19 <Ammler> and run ~/compiler/scheduler.sh nml 13:01:02 <Ammler> then run ~/compiler/scheduler.sh -releases swedishrails 13:01:14 <planetmaker> which user do I have to be? ottdc or another? 13:01:25 <Ammler> ottdc for scheduler.sh 13:01:25 <planetmaker> openttd I guess? 13:01:29 <planetmaker> oh, ok 13:01:38 <Ammler> same as the repos are 13:02:21 <Ammler> but for deleting the ERROR dir on bundles, you need user openttd 13:03:59 <Brot6> nml: update from r326 to r347 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r347 13:04:15 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Feature #1018 (New): recursive templates (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1018 13:04:30 <planetmaker> thanks Ammler 13:04:39 <planetmaker> \o/ @ Hirundo :-) 13:04:49 <planetmaker> Been thinking about that just now :-) 13:05:06 <Hirundo> Mind control :) 13:05:21 <planetmaker> I guess it was in the air :-) 13:06:39 <Ammler> planetmaker: now you can trigger release of swedishrails again 13:06:56 <Brot6> swedishrails: update from 0.1.0 to 0.2.0 done (4 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/swedishrails/releases/0.2.0 13:07:04 <Ammler> oh, you already did :-P 13:08:02 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Feature #1018: recursive templates (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1018#change-2631 13:09:38 <Ammler> hmm, we might need a md5sum file for the source package 13:11:13 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Feature #1018: recursive templates (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1018#change-2632 13:12:18 <Hirundo> 'hg incoming' lists more than my cygwin shell can handle 13:14:08 <Ammler> hehe 13:14:19 <Ammler> Hirundo: Tortoise is quite neat 13:14:31 <Ammler> I use it also on linux 13:16:14 <Hirundo> --template "{desc}\n" works 13:23:53 * Hirundo resorts to games, having run out of bread 13:54:24 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Feature #1018: recursive templates (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1018#change-2633 14:14:47 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 53:202072bb05a2: Feature: Separate depot sprites for normal and electrif... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/202072bb05a2 14:18:30 <Ammler> planetmaker: you still don't wrap readme... 14:18:40 <planetmaker> true. I shall do now :-) 14:21:07 <Yexo> should the small airport have fences in the nw (behind the buildings) and behind the (water?) tower? 14:21:40 <Ammler> and try to keep below 800 for images on tt-forums... :-P 14:22:11 <Ammler> http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=130298&mode=view <-- 2 depots don't align proper 14:28:05 <planetmaker> which depots don't align? 14:30:33 <Hirundo> In the NML output code, sometimes a string is directly raised as error. Does this have a specific purpose? 14:31:47 <Yexo> no, those cases should be fixed 14:31:58 <Yexo> afaik it's only in output_grf 14:32:35 <Ammler> [16:27] <planetmaker> which depots don't align? <-- the 2 most bottow 14:32:39 <Ammler> m* 14:33:12 <planetmaker> true. Thanks 14:35:38 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 54:9db7b1378531: Change: Wrap readme at 80 characters (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/9db7b1378531 14:39:09 <Yexo> planetmaker: the small climate depended airport from airportsplus converted to nml: http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/small_airport_climates.diff 14:39:16 <Yexo> the diff is against opengfx+ 14:39:26 <planetmaker> oh :-) 14:39:46 <planetmaker> Yexo: if you want commit it 14:40:10 <planetmaker> would be nice :-) 14:40:14 <Yexo> ok :) 14:41:09 <planetmaker> I saved your conversion yesterday, but didn't come around to actually adding it. Too much to do with Swedish rails :-) 14:41:41 <Yexo> hmm? I'm only just done, I only made a start yesterday 14:42:08 <planetmaker> yes, but you gave me some paste line for a conversion of the small one IIRC 14:42:37 <Yexo> yes, but at that time there were only 3 tiles onverted or so, only the runway I think 14:42:40 <planetmaker> I didn't go through it in detail, though 14:42:42 <planetmaker> ah 14:43:19 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ - Revision 28:8acf583379ae: Feature: climate dependent small airport (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfxplus/repository/revisions/8acf583379ae 14:44:04 <Yexo> I'm making heavy use of the preprocessor to avoid writing a lot of duplicate code, but there is still a lot of code 14:48:21 <planetmaker> interesting. I didn't know this way worked: + 0: name ## _normal;\ 14:48:45 <planetmaker> I shall remember that :-) 14:49:33 <planetmaker> and I think Swedish rails teaches me that not all fences are nicely aligned... 14:49:49 <planetmaker> looking how a fence on a slope does NOT align with the wall of the depot 14:50:23 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 348:0635875033b4: Fix: Writing sprites to grf with compression bit 0... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/0635875033b4 14:50:23 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 349:d3e7f64fc87b: Codechange: Introduce base class for output classe... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/d3e7f64fc87b 14:50:23 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 350:83cafc3a737a: Codechange: Don't use low-level writing methods in... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/83cafc3a737a 14:50:25 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 351:c95ae653d721: Codechange: Introduce methods start_sprite and end... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/c95ae653d721 14:50:29 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 352:a5d6ca2fc0f9: Codechange: Use start_sprite and end_sprite in the... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/a5d6ca2fc0f9 14:50:33 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 353:84c1eb831b43: Codechange: Add assertions to makes sure print_xxx... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/84c1eb831b43 14:50:39 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 354:86bd8693ef1a: Codechange: Keep track of the number of written by... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/86bd8693ef1a 14:52:39 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 55:ab2260bda7bd: Fix: Depots were not properly aligned (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/ab2260bda7bd 14:58:44 <Yexo> nice work on the output code Hirundo :) 14:59:05 <Hirundo> tnx 15:06:55 <Hirundo> Caching the handles of image files seems to have little impact on the speed of the program 15:07:00 <Hirundo> http://paste.openttd.org/225966 <- diff used 15:08:10 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 355:dde8fe428a10: Codechange: Replace error message with assertion, ... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/dde8fe428a10 15:10:57 <Ammler> planetmaker: is there any howto, how to start with the newgrf_makefile framework 15:11:07 <planetmaker> in the readme 15:11:08 <Ammler> or shall I just copy the repo 15:11:21 <planetmaker> but a copy of the repo is what it amounts mostly to. 15:11:33 <planetmaker> You want to leave out a few files, though 15:11:50 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 460:376658e9d1e5: Fix: Alignment of rail fences (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/376658e9d1e5 15:12:59 <planetmaker> most notably you don't need necessarily the files in sprites/nfo 15:13:14 <planetmaker> and you need to adjust .hgignore and Makefile.config 15:13:15 <Yexo> Hirundo: the image library is not the problem, lz77.py is ver yslow 15:13:26 <Yexo> try the -u flag, it'll be notable faster 15:14:31 * planetmaker wonders whether that flag should be added to the Makefile.config 15:14:56 <Hirundo> the -u flag at least uncovered a bug *fixes* 15:15:42 <planetmaker> Ammler: and you don't want update.sh ;-) 15:16:04 <planetmaker> which is mostly a convenience script for myself I have to admit 15:16:29 <planetmaker> which somehow not entirely sensibly got added somewhen it seems. 15:16:34 <planetmaker> But it's important for me :-P 15:17:14 <Hirundo> Should this fake compression algorithm take compression bit 0x02 into account? 15:17:25 <Hirundo> To determine the sprite size, that is 15:18:41 <Ammler> does nml already crop? 15:18:59 <Hirundo> yes 15:19:22 <Yexo> Hirundo: I'm not really sure 15:19:42 <Hirundo> Is it intended as a fast replacement for lz77? 15:19:45 <Ammler> what about "autosize detection" :-) 15:19:50 <Yexo> yes 15:20:05 <Yexo> when in doubt, give the same parameters (-u and/or -c) to grfcodec and compare the output 15:27:21 <Hirundo> Judging by the grfcodec source, realcompress and fakecompress are just two separate 'compression' algorithms 15:32:00 <Yexo> fakecompress does the same encoding as realcompress only it doesn't really try to compress the input 15:32:12 <planetmaker> eh? 15:32:27 <Yexo> the output format is the same 15:32:31 <planetmaker> that sounds like an oxymoron 15:32:45 <planetmaker> wash me but don't use water 15:33:19 <planetmaker> it just by-passes compression in the assumption that it is already compressed? 15:33:46 <Yexo> planetmaker: the output format is something like: REAL_BYTES: this_is_literal_output LOOK_BACK_3_2 (insert 2 bytes at this position, they are the same as 3 bytes back in the stream, REAL_BYTES this_is_literal_output 15:34:12 <Yexo> fakecompress just never uses the "LOOK_BACK_" codes and only outputs literal output 15:34:26 <planetmaker> ah 15:34:29 <Yexo> realcompress tries to find double data and uses LOOK_BACK items there which saves space 15:34:36 <planetmaker> so... some missing RLE 15:40:12 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 356:6b0363d0c3b6: Fix: Fake compression (-u) did not work as it should. (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/6b0363d0c3b6 15:40:30 <planetmaker> Yexo: good to know OpenMSX works for you. 15:41:17 <planetmaker> besides... is it about time to advertize NML somewhat in the NewGRF developers forum? 15:41:34 <planetmaker> I don't want to make the first post of a separate thread :-) 15:41:53 <Yexo> yes, i think it's about time 15:42:19 <planetmaker> I thought about making a comparison posting by using SwedishRails as an example to compare things 15:42:33 <Yexo> Hirundo: at some time you had plans to remove the SELF/PARENT param from switch blocks and prepend it to each variable 15:42:36 <planetmaker> It illustrates the ease of NML quite nicely :-) 15:42:49 <Yexo> do you still want ot do that or is that old since #1007 ? 15:43:57 <Hirundo> I haven't had the time for either 15:44:15 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:44:20 <Hirundo> I'll look at it tonight, but first I'm gonna get myself some food :P 15:44:36 <Yexo> I think #1007 can be implemented in a way that's backwards compatible, removing SELF/PARENT as parameter is not possible in a backwards compatible way 15:44:55 <Yexo> I'd like to have a somwwhat stable syntax before creating a forum post 15:45:12 <Yexo> extensions to the syntax are ok, breaking previous syntax not so much 15:45:58 <Hirundo> I agree 15:46:12 <planetmaker> I understand that well :-) 15:46:27 <planetmaker> so... not quite yet? 15:47:28 <Yexo> if Hirundo that the current switch code is good enough and we can swap it later for #1007 then we're good to go 15:47:35 <Yexo> I don't know of any other issues with the syntax 15:47:52 * Hirundo checks the issue list 15:50:35 <Hirundo> Is file/line information being reported for errors? 15:51:02 <Yexo> only line 15:51:15 <Yexo> see #969 and #996 15:51:21 <Yexo> both are becoming more important 15:52:16 <Hirundo> 996 is from openttd-gui 15:53:14 <Hirundo> I assume you mean #995 15:53:35 <Yexo> yes 15:57:28 <Hirundo> We can leave out the self/parent stuff for now, I think 16:03:35 <Yexo> do you see any other issues that should be solved before announcing nml on the forums? 16:15:09 <Hirundo> I don't see any big issues, apart from the general more features==better 16:15:49 <planetmaker> The error handling is not a show stopper (#995) 16:17:08 <Yexo> then go ahead and make a forum post planetmaker :) 16:17:19 <planetmaker> nor is I think the output of where an error exactly occured (though it's nice) 16:17:37 <planetmaker> Yexo: that should be up to you usually... you're the father of NML :-) 16:18:01 <Yexo> I really don't care, but I'll do it then 16:18:57 <Brot6> 2cctrainset: update from r547 to r557 done (1 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/2cctrainset/nightlies/r557 16:19:44 <Brot6> firs: update from r910 to r913 done (2 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r913 16:20:38 <Brot6> nml: update from r347 to r356 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r356 16:21:10 <Brot6> ogfxplus: update from r27 to r28 done (4 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfxplus/nightlies/r28 16:22:19 <Brot6> opengfx: update from r459 to r460 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/r460 16:24:22 <planetmaker> NML = newgrf meta language instead of nfo meta language? 16:24:33 <Brot6> swedishrails: update from r31 to r55 done (4 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/swedishrails/nightlies/r55 16:24:35 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 32bpp-extra (r36), airportsplus (r50), bros (r12), comic-houses (r70), fish (r375), heqs (r320), newgrf_makefile (ERROR r99), nmts (r16), nutracks (r69), openmsx (r57), opensfx (r94), snowlinemod (r12), worldairlinersset (r643) 16:24:53 <planetmaker> ups... 24 commits to SwedishRails today... 16:25:09 <Ammler> hehe 16:25:40 <Yexo> <planetmaker> NML = newgrf meta language instead of nfo meta language? <- that's better now indeed 16:25:46 <Yexo> or just keep it at NML 16:25:56 <Ammler> hehe 16:26:04 <planetmaker> yes, NML as the catch phrase. But people will ask 16:26:24 <Ammler> GML 16:27:09 <Ammler> or Better GRF Maker :-P 16:28:13 <planetmaker> Yexo: then the main py file needs renaming nml2nfo.py is kinda an understatement :-) 16:28:56 <Ammler> just nml.py maybe? 16:28:59 <Yexo> planetmaker: yes, but we can't call it "nml" because the module is already called "nml" 16:29:05 <Ammler> oh 16:29:08 <Yexo> Ammler: there is no ".py" extension for the main script 16:29:43 <Ammler> well, call it nml-wrapper 16:29:53 <planetmaker> nml2grf 16:29:54 <Ammler> and then let the installer rename it 16:30:11 <Ammler> afaik, that is how other python script do it 16:30:16 <planetmaker> or nmlcodec 16:32:27 * planetmaker likes nmlcodec 16:32:34 <planetmaker> pngcodec 16:32:38 <planetmaker> grfcodec 16:32:42 <planetmaker> catcodec 16:33:03 <Ammler> nmlcodec is wrong 16:33:26 <Ammler> it is <endformat>codec 16:33:36 <Ammler> not <source>codec 16:34:24 <Ammler> nmlencoder maybe? 16:35:18 <Ammler> anyway, nml2grf should be added 16:41:47 <Yexo> I'd rather keep a single name instead of 2 files that do the same (like nml2nfo and nml2grf) 16:42:20 <Yexo> Ammler: and grfcodec and also do grf->nfo 16:42:28 <Yexo> no idea about catcodec 16:42:46 <Yexo> but nmlencoder sounds ok to me 16:42:49 <Yexo> Hirundo / planetmaker? 16:43:45 <Ammler> well, you might have time until the first release for the name :-) 16:44:19 <Hirundo> hmmm 16:44:23 <Yexo> that is yet anothre question: when to do the first release 16:45:51 <Yexo> Ammler / planetmaker: I've seen a roadmap for some other projects, how do I enable that in redmine? 16:46:11 <Ammler> Yexo: define a Version 16:46:19 <planetmaker> settings->version 16:46:20 <Ammler> and you have a roadmap 16:46:25 <Yexo> ok, thanks :) 17:11:01 <planetmaker> hm... 17:11:23 <planetmaker> I wonder whether the generated parameter math in NFO code is correct 17:12:41 <planetmaker> hm, probably. Just in a funny way 17:16:38 <Yexo> can you give an example? 17:17:01 <Yexo> I've modified that code yesterday, could've introduced a bug (although I hope not!) 17:18:15 <Ammler> parameters might not be testable? 17:19:01 <Ammler> loading the GRF with openttd and check for debug output? 17:21:27 <planetmaker> Yexo: I'm looking at the parameter usage of SwedishRails 17:21:42 <planetmaker> let me paste the NML 17:21:45 <planetmaker> *NFO 17:23:54 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Bug #985: conditional expressions (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/985#change-2638 17:26:17 <planetmaker> http://paste.openttd.org/225968 <-- Yexo 17:27:36 <planetmaker> I can't say, I follow the logic entirely 17:27:46 <planetmaker> but ingame the grf seems to work as intended 17:28:00 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Bug #985: conditional expressions (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/985#change-2639 17:29:02 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Bug #985: conditional expressions (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/985#change-2639 17:31:50 <Hirundo> planetmaker: what is the nml sourcE? 17:32:02 <planetmaker> Hirundo: of the NFO I posted? 17:32:08 <Hirundo> yes 17:32:16 <planetmaker> parts of the SwedishRails set 17:32:17 <Yexo> http://paste.openttd.org/225969 first few lines annotated 17:35:04 <planetmaker> Yexo: I'm most notably missing the code querying the first grf parameter 17:35:13 <planetmaker> or do I miss that? 17:35:25 <Yexo> # 17:35:25 <Yexo> 5 * 5 0D 0A \D| 40 00 17:35:34 <Yexo> param[10] = param[0x40] | param[0] 17:35:36 <Yexo> that you mean? 17:35:58 <planetmaker> yes 17:36:00 <planetmaker> :-) 17:36:06 <planetmaker> then all will be fine 17:36:43 <frosch123> that division is quite tricky :) 17:36:55 <planetmaker> division? 17:37:16 <planetmaker> quak! :-) 17:37:16 <frosch123> param[0x40] = param[0x40] / param[0x40] (-> if param[0x40] == 0 then param[0x40] = 0, otherwise param[0x40] = 1) 17:37:34 <planetmaker> :-) 17:37:36 <frosch123> moin 17:38:26 <Yexo> frosch123: both openttd and ttdpatch do "a / b -> if b == 0, return a" 17:38:32 <planetmaker> Hirundo: param[10] = (ttd_platform == PLATFORM_TTDPATCH) | (param[0]); // Use TTD ground sprites 17:38:38 <planetmaker> if ((climate == CLIMATE_TEMPERATE) & (param[10] == 1)) { 17:39:36 <planetmaker> interesting how it can be two lines and... like unreadable in NFO ;-) 17:48:47 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 18:05:31 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:09:17 <Hirundo> Yexo: An else block is a conditional with expr == None ? 18:09:25 <Yexo> yes 18:10:21 <planetmaker> Yexo: I guess then I'll make a long first NML posting. You're mod anyway (are you there?) and could edit it later :-) 18:10:41 <Yexo> I'm only mod in the openttd section 18:10:48 <Yexo> I can't do anything more then you can in the graphics section 18:11:08 <planetmaker> oh, ok. It's only 200 lines long so far :-P 18:11:10 <Yexo> but that doesn't matter, I'll make the second post in that topic 18:11:13 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:11:14 <Yexo> "only" :p 18:11:18 <Yexo> hello Alberth 18:11:23 <planetmaker> hi Alberth 18:11:26 <Alberth> hello 18:11:42 <planetmaker> Yexo: it's a small rail types newgrf which I present in both NML and NFO there. Piece by piece 18:11:58 <planetmaker> Preceeded by a small introduction what NML is about in the first place 18:12:00 <Yexo> nice :) 18:12:39 <Alberth> lots of changes in the nml project :) 18:13:03 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 357:1310fbe03bec: Fix: Don't try to reduce the conditional expressio... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/1310fbe03bec 18:16:10 <Hirundo> Alberth: I made some changes regarding http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/974, but I don't know how much more you had in mind 18:21:14 <Alberth> I noticed from the commit messages, still have to read the actual diffs 18:27:12 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 358:e78159c55de2: Fix: Testing after 'fixing' is usually a good idea... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/e78159c55de2 18:29:16 <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 359:a4e7578fb37d: Codechange: Register template declarations when ge... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/a4e7578fb37d 18:30:44 <Ammler> please report, if you have some laggs or something else 18:31:41 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=48891 <-- Yexo Alberth Hirundo 18:31:43 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - NML - a Newgrf Meta Language (at www.tt-forums.net) 18:33:46 <Hirundo> and there was much rejoicing 18:34:06 <Alberth> r349: the 3 lines doc string probably belong inside the class 18:34:34 <Alberth> r353: a bit paranoid? :) 18:34:39 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #1018: recursive templates (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1018#change-2633 18:34:39 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 353:84c1eb831b43: Codechange: Add assertions to makes sure print_... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/84c1eb831b43 18:34:39 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 354:86bd8693ef1a: Codechange: Keep track of the number of written... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/86bd8693ef1a 18:34:40 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 355:dde8fe428a10: Codechange: Replace error message with assertio... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/dde8fe428a10 18:34:44 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 356:6b0363d0c3b6: Fix: Fake compression (-u) did not work as it s... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/6b0363d0c3b6 18:34:48 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #985: conditional expressions (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/985#change-2638 18:34:51 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #985: conditional expressions (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/985#change-2639 18:34:55 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 357:1310fbe03bec: Fix: Don't try to reduce the conditional expres... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/1310fbe03bec 18:34:56 <Alberth> r354 \o/ 18:34:58 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 358:e78159c55de2: Fix: Testing after 'fixing' is usually a good i... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/e78159c55de2 18:35:02 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 359:a4e7578fb37d: Codechange: Register template declarations when... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/a4e7578fb37d 18:35:03 <planetmaker> hm... reciting everything again, Brot6 ? 18:35:52 <Hirundo> Alberth: You're free to fix whatever is and isn't broken 18:36:21 <Alberth> it is all quite alright imho 18:38:15 <Ammler> planetmaker: did you change the title of #1018? 18:39:08 <Alberth> Hirundo: checking of the byte count was my major motivation for the issue, and you solved that already 18:39:08 <Alberth> next step would be to make things that belong together go at one line in NFO. Not sure whether that is of any use though, since the output format is not going to be used much. 18:39:48 <planetmaker> Alberth: the nfo output is not that bad, it's quite alright actually 18:40:52 <planetmaker> Ammler: I did not 18:41:13 <Ammler> I have no idea, what can cause it repeating 18:41:30 <planetmaker> Alberth: nfo output in multiple lines is actually quite good and the usual way to write it by hand, too 18:41:46 <planetmaker> There's no way one can understand a string of 25 consecutive bytes or more 18:41:57 <andythenorth> I always split nfo into multiple lines 18:42:04 <andythenorth> even action 2 / 3 18:42:11 <Alberth> I'd hope so :) 18:42:19 <Yexo> planetmaker: " track_overlay_group; // irrelevant, we just need one set here" <- that is no longer true 18:42:24 <Yexo> you can leave out the default group 18:42:29 <Alberth> as I said, I am not sure how much use it is to put more effort in it 18:42:38 <planetmaker> oh, can I? Nice 18:42:51 <planetmaker> Alberth: then currently: not much use ;-) 18:43:43 <Alberth> Hirundo: you heard the gurus, no more work needed for #974 :) 18:44:01 <Alberth> any near future plans for the RANDOM token? 18:44:10 <Yexo> random action 2 18:44:12 <Alberth> otherwise, we could comment it out for now 18:46:30 <planetmaker> Alberth: random action2 is somewhen needed 18:46:45 <planetmaker> better implement it than comment it out ;-) 18:47:41 <Alberth> he, there is a road map ! 18:48:09 <Yexo> I've added a few issues that I think are "high priority" 18:48:14 <planetmaker> Alberth: yes. someone defined versions :-) 18:48:25 <planetmaker> (not me) 18:48:27 <Yexo> if there is anything else that really needs to be done before a first release just set the target version of those issues 18:49:41 <planetmaker> I nevertheless added 0.2.0 ;-) 18:52:53 <andythenorth> planetmaker: the FIRS templates that aren't recognised as dependencies....anything I can do to fix that? 18:53:06 <Yexo> planetmaker: http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/swedishrails.png a bit inconsistent 18:53:14 <Yexo> top left is no snow on tile, no snow on rail 18:53:29 <Yexo> bottom right there is snow on the tile, still no snow on the track 18:53:48 <planetmaker> Yexo: yes it is. It's an OpenTTD bug. Bug peter1138 or SmatZ. The latter has a patch :-) 18:54:03 <Yexo> ok, I was just wondering :) 18:54:09 <planetmaker> it's a matter of how snow transition is handled 18:54:14 <Yexo> as the snow on the tile is consistent wrt to the height 18:54:15 <planetmaker> and how rail types handle those 18:54:41 <planetmaker> I can only query the tile type. which can be snow or not snow 18:55:03 <planetmaker> so tracks themselves will always be binary with/out snow 18:55:11 <planetmaker> but the ground sprite could IMHO keep the transition 18:55:28 <Yexo> not sure if that's possible, normally the amount of snow is stored in the map 18:55:34 <Yexo> but that's not possible for rail tiles 18:55:51 <planetmaker> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3883 <-- actually I created that report to that end (somewhat) 18:56:01 <planetmaker> Yexo: but SmatZ has a patch :-) 18:57:06 <planetmaker> let me post his screenshots: http://devs.openttd.org/~smatz/snow.png 18:57:20 <Alberth> (08:50:01 PM) planetmaker: I nevertheless added 0.2.0 ;-) <-- thinking ahead eh? :) 18:57:43 <planetmaker> well, yes. Also as a target for things which should go to the next one 18:57:58 <planetmaker> As such a mid-term goal as opposed to "somewhen" for un-tagged issues 18:58:16 <planetmaker> at least that's how I handle my projects here :-) 18:58:23 <planetmaker> current and 2nd next 18:59:25 * Alberth branches to #969 19:00:38 <Yexo> Alberth: just uploaded the last version of the patch I had for that 19:00:48 <Alberth> ok :) 19:01:10 <Yexo> I'm not working on it, so go ahead, that patch might save you some time 19:01:11 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 914:eab02836f888: Add: template for mine clustering (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/eab02836f888 19:01:11 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #969: Parse #file and #line lines that are written by a preprocessor (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/969#change-2640 19:02:10 <planetmaker> I conceptually don't get how you know which line was in which file if nml gets the thing after pre-processing... 19:02:39 <planetmaker> (though it'd be nice to get the message wrt source files and not the NML file which I have after pre-processing) 19:02:41 <Yexo> the preprocessor prints lines like this: #line 3 "other_file.nml" 19:02:56 <Yexo> which indicates that the next line in the input is line 3 of other_file.nml 19:03:02 <planetmaker> ah yes. those lines which I currently delete :-P 19:03:07 <Yexo> yep :p 19:04:04 <Yexo> when that's done there is no longer a need to write the preprocessed nml file anywhere 19:27:29 <Ammler> hmm, planetmaker, theoretically, I could leave tomorrow noon 19:29:07 <Ammler> maybe you need help for preparation? 19:30:22 <planetmaker> I wouldn't mind some help there :-) 19:30:49 <planetmaker> I'll need to go shopping tomorrow. I should leave university tomorrow noon, too 19:31:06 <planetmaker> Ammler: you're welcome here whenever you arrive 19:31:24 <planetmaker> when would you arrive then? 19:31:39 <Ammler> train needs 8.5 hours 19:31:46 <planetmaker> so around 21h 19:31:50 <Ammler> ah, that is loooong :-) 19:31:56 <planetmaker> yes, very :S 19:32:28 <Ammler> it also doesn't sell online tickets :-P 19:32:50 <planetmaker> hm, why not? 19:34:54 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 360:8ce0d0b566fe: Codechange: Move template expansion to a new fu... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/8ce0d0b566fe 19:34:54 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 915:af17d1a61911: Change: defined cb28 handling for Arab... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/af17d1a61911 19:34:54 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 916:95110516be6f: Change: defined cb28 handling for Mixe... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/95110516be6f 19:34:56 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 917:84fd1493fc54: Change: defined cb28 handling for Dair... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/84fd1493fc54 19:35:00 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 918:2e9d30d61e30: Change: defined cb28 handling for Frui... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/2e9d30d61e30 19:35:04 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 919:4cd571a91a01: Change: defined cb28 handling for Shee... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/4cd571a91a01 19:35:08 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 361:5823309ce863: Feature: Allow recursive templates, i.e. templa... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/5823309ce863 19:35:12 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 920:43a40cc822cd: Change: removed include for cb28 from ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/43a40cc822cd 19:35:14 <Ammler> maybe too late 19:35:16 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #1018 (Closed): recursive templates (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1018#change-2641 19:37:13 <planetmaker> should not be too late usually. I book my private online tickets 10 minutes before I leave for the station ;-) 19:42:48 <Ammler> well, I guess, it is because of country cross 19:43:12 <Ammler> I calculate 100€ 19:43:36 <planetmaker> :-) 19:45:08 <Brot6> Redmine - Revision 3770: Plugin models and controllers must be unloadable. (edavis10) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3770 19:45:08 <Brot6> Redmine - Revision 3771: Add example url and author url to the plugin generator. (edavis10) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3771 19:46:09 <planetmaker> in any case, I also would have cable connection here, if you bring a non-wifi laptop :-) 19:46:50 <Ammler> oh well :-) 20:04:18 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 362:321938c16893: Fix (r299): Missing module name. (Alberth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/321938c16893 20:07:31 <Alberth> http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/diffs/issue969.patch 20:14:16 <Yexo> nice patch Alberth :) 20:15:55 <Alberth> I would have liked to do this line-based, but it would have broken the lexer completely. I guess we have to live for a while with this sub-optimal solution :) 20:16:34 <Yexo> what do you mean with "line-based"? 20:19:17 <Alberth> first split the input in lines. Then handle the line directive. Then transform the other text to tokens 20:19:45 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:19:56 <Alberth> now you can do foo(...); #line 13 "bad_line_directive_line" 20:20:21 <Alberth> ie ^\s*# is not a requirement 20:20:25 <Yexo> for that we'd need another layour around the lexer (or our own lexer) 20:20:40 <Alberth> our own is simpler :) 20:21:26 <Alberth> as I said, it breaks the current lexer completely. A little too much for now, I think 20:22:50 <planetmaker> Yexo: Alberth but it's correct that currently NML chokes on the pre-processor lines, right? 20:23:03 * Alberth nods 20:23:08 <planetmaker> because if I don't cut out the # lines ... ok :-) 20:23:18 <Yexo> not when Alberth commits that patch 20:23:24 <planetmaker> I should not unnecessarily highlight people. sorry 20:24:12 <Alberth> Yexo: good enough for now? 20:24:17 <Yexo> yep 20:25:04 <planetmaker> sounds awesome :-) 20:25:27 <planetmaker> And I'm curious whether there'll be any response concerning NML in the German forum. I doubt it actually ;-) 20:26:32 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #969 (Closed): Parse #file and #line lines that are written by a p... (Alberth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/969#change-2642 20:26:32 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 363:088caeb1facc: Add: Allow line directive lines in the NML inpu... (Alberth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/088caeb1facc 20:27:43 <planetmaker> hm. no :-S 20:29:12 <Alberth> Ammler: did you look into a local setup of repos that reproduces the lack of rejecting bad pushes? 20:29:51 <planetmaker> Alberth: http://paste.openttd.org/225971 20:29:53 <Ammler> Alberth: lack? 20:30:32 <Alberth> #line <num> "<file>" 20:30:50 <planetmaker> that's the default gcc preprocessor output 20:31:06 <planetmaker> so I need to grep for the others? 20:31:54 <Alberth> Ammler: I could push bad commit, right? 20:32:03 <Ammler> yes 20:32:07 <Ammler> no rejects 20:32:22 <Alberth> that sounds like a lack of rejects to me :p 20:32:37 <Ammler> yes, but it never worked 20:32:49 <Ammler> I thought, you are aware of it 20:33:18 <Alberth> I am, but to figure what is wrong, I'd like to have a local setup that shows the issue 20:33:53 <Alberth> While developing, I did push to another repo over the file system, and that worked here as expected. 20:34:25 <Alberth> So at this moment, I have no clue why it does not work, nor any way of debugging 20:34:37 <Ammler> hmm, please give me your public ssh key 20:34:47 <Ammler> then you could push with ssh 20:35:01 <Ammler> and also check the hook yourself 20:37:11 <Alberth> Thanks for the offer, but I'd prefer to set it up without need for an Internet. I'll do some local experiments first if you don't mind. 20:41:15 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 20:47:31 <planetmaker> Alberth: will you change NML such that all pre-processor output is accepted and possibly just ignored? 20:47:56 <Alberth> I was looking into accepting your output too 20:48:14 <planetmaker> that'd be quite convenient :-) 20:48:24 <Alberth> http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/cpp/Differences-from-previous-versions.html#Differences-from-previous-versions shows that #line was used in the past :) 20:48:25 <Webster> Title: Differences from previous versions - The C Preprocessor (at gcc.gnu.org) 20:50:13 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:50:45 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:52:31 <Ammler> Alberth: it should work locally the same as with remote repo 20:52:43 <Ammler> so if it works on your side, but doesn't on our server 20:52:51 <Ammler> we need to investigate it here 21:04:06 <Yexo> planetmaker: instead of | grep -v -E '^#' you can also give the -P flag to cpp 21:14:47 <planetmaker> nice, I didn't know that either. Though I'll speculate now on the possibility to get rid of that part at all :-) 21:14:56 <planetmaker> and so long the current implementation can stay 21:15:09 <planetmaker> or at least till after Sunday ;-) 21:19:32 <Yexo> I just came across that information when looking for info on the new #line output 21:23:57 <Alberth> hope this helps 21:24:21 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 364:65bf44eab16b: Fix (r363): And of course the world uses more t... (Alberth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/65bf44eab16b 21:25:25 <planetmaker> it helps along, Alberth, till line 204 of railtypes.pnml 21:25:49 <Alberth> not a #line line, I hope :p 21:26:05 <planetmaker> an empty line... 21:26:21 <Alberth> oh, that one is your fault :p 21:26:27 <planetmaker> # 3 "<stdin>" 2 21:26:30 <planetmaker> actually that ^ 21:26:43 <planetmaker> dunno where or how that gets there 21:27:02 <planetmaker> it's a pre-processor output, though 21:27:19 <Alberth> I tested with your # 1 "src/header.pnml" 1 21:27:19 <Yexo> because of this: $(_V) $(CC) $(CC_FLAGS) $< | grep -v -E '^#' > $@ 21:27:28 <Yexo> you give the input file as stdin to the preprocessor 21:27:49 <Alberth> < and > does not matter 21:29:32 <Alberth> most likely it is an error above it 21:30:38 <Alberth> I can use that # 3 ... line in my input test without problem 21:31:12 <Alberth> hmm, off to bed. good night 21:31:48 <planetmaker> good night 21:31:58 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:36:02 <Brot6> feed devactivity had 11 updates, showing the latest 10 21:36:02 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 922:bbbb38d3f6c1: Change: added clustering code to iron ... 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(yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/a45bbeca7d68 22:00:44 <planetmaker> it works here now with SwedishRails, too :-) 22:00:54 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 366:a7f63bfad304: Revert r365: fix was wrong (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/a7f63bfad304 22:01:13 <Yexo> r366 is the proper fix, but both should work 22:02:01 <planetmaker> nice, thanks :-) 22:04:18 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 56:5650ea960bbe: Change: [Makefile] Don't strip pre-processor lines anym... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/5650ea960bbe 22:04:18 <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 100:ced1e521d23c: Change: [NML] Don't strip pre-processor lines... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/ced1e521d23c 22:04:23 <Brot6> newgrf_makefile: compile of 0.2.0 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/newgrf_makefile/releases/ERROR/0.2.0 22:05:52 <planetmaker> ^ considered in NML projects and example makefile project 22:06:01 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ - Revision 29:78dc3ea020a8: Change: [Makefile] Don't strip pre-processor lines anymore. ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfxplus/repository/revisions/78dc3ea020a8 22:07:31 <Brot6> newgrf-makefile: compile of r100 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/newgrf-makefile/nightlies/ERROR/r100 22:07:48 <Ammler> so it isn't the "_" :-) 22:08:51 <planetmaker> but what is it? 22:10:44 <Ammler> good question 22:17:02 <Yexo> <planetmaker> but what is it? <- what is that about? 22:17:53 <Ammler> newgrf_makefile doesn't build 22:18:00 <Ammler> hmm, it does 22:19:13 <planetmaker> but reports as failed. For some reason 22:19:34 <planetmaker> But it's not NML-related, yexo :-) 22:19:44 <planetmaker> hm... I should change newgrf makefile soon-ish 22:19:50 <planetmaker> Default = NML - style :-) 22:20:05 <Yexo> wait with that till we have a proper nml release 22:20:22 <Ammler> planetmaker: it fails, because there is no grf 22:20:31 <planetmaker> well, the last newgrf makefile release will remain nfo 22:20:39 <planetmaker> Ammler: but there should be 22:22:14 <planetmaker> hm, but it's indeed a makefile error 22:22:41 <planetmaker> I didn't build bundle_zip of the example newgrf for long, I guess 22:24:34 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:24:42 <Ammler> if you are at it, fix the tar issue :-) 22:24:50 <Ammler> or revert, whatever 22:25:24 <planetmaker> hm, not now, I guess. But make an issue so I don't forget ;-) 22:25:34 <Ammler> yes, that is done :-P 22:25:44 <planetmaker> Especially as I made it this way because you wanted it :-P 22:26:03 <planetmaker> he, I missed the issue then :-P 22:26:20 <planetmaker> nah, I should hit the bed now :-) 22:26:27 <Yexo> heh, same for me 22:26:29 <Yexo> good night 22:26:37 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1017 22:26:50 <Ammler> good night from here too 22:26:51 <planetmaker> I'd say, see you tomorrow Ammler, see you the day after tomorrow, Yexo, if I shouldn't be too much around tomorrow 22:54:04 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 22:55:06 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 932:563d993ef2eb: Change: tweak mine cluster distances (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/563d993ef2eb 22:55:06 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 933:6f32f6b6c5c9: Add: template for clustering forests (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/6f32f6b6c5c9 22:55:06 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 934:360e1b172eab: Change: forest now uses clustering (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/360e1b172eab 22:55:09 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 935:8e17a8bbb860: Change: adjusted Forest clustering (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/8e17a8bbb860 22:55:13 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 936:59a22b6adf98: Change: adjusted Forest probability in... 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