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00:41:07 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 01:15:51 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 02:03:31 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:17:04 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Feature #1035 (Closed): Add brief parameter description to ingame description (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1035#change-2866 08:19:10 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Bug #1103 (New): width of uphill track sprite (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1103 10:26:38 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:09:57 <andythenorth> think mb has a fair point about maintaining DB set -> FIRS extenstion 11:10:01 <andythenorth> extension /s 11:10:24 <andythenorth> hmm 11:10:41 <andythenorth> if he can't use a CTT, he's going to have trouble with the 'spare' cargo slots in future 11:17:33 <planetmaker> yes. But it'd be easy to say 'I check for 3 bytes of the grfID' and 'it works as long as FIRS doesn't change' 11:17:55 <andythenorth> but he's never going to do that is he? It's mb :) 11:17:56 <planetmaker> which would IMHO make more sense than 'I don't do anything as it *could* break' 11:18:03 <andythenorth> and his cargo bits will likely break 11:18:04 <planetmaker> of course he won't 11:18:13 <planetmaker> yes 11:18:13 <andythenorth> meh 11:18:13 <andythenorth> I can't help with that 11:18:17 <planetmaker> nope. No-one can 11:18:18 <andythenorth> grfid needs to change every now and then 11:18:41 <planetmaker> yes. I explained that actually in that (German) posting I linked, that FIRS did everything by the book 11:18:52 <planetmaker> as required and desired 11:19:02 <andythenorth> ho hum 11:19:07 <andythenorth> it's ironic that he can't use ctt 11:24:19 <Terkhen> hmm... he can't use them without changing the entire set? 11:25:04 <planetmaker> well. An add-on newgrf can't define one, if it wants to change engines of another newgrf (the one it adds-on to) 11:25:14 <planetmaker> it can only make use of the cargo bits directly 11:25:22 <planetmaker> or something along those lines IIRC 11:38:47 <Ammler> well, nobody stops you from including dbset table to firs or making own addon set 11:46:10 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:46:20 <Rubidium> noone stops you from disabling firs if dbsetxl is found :) 11:50:03 <Ammler> me :-P 11:54:07 <planetmaker> :-D 11:54:52 * Rubidium wonders why so many still care about something ancient that doesn't support anything recent out-of-the-box 11:55:30 <Rubidium> it's like you'd be playing openttd 0.4.0.1 11:55:52 <Rubidium> and then complaining that it doesn't support swedishrails 11:56:01 <planetmaker> :-) 11:56:26 <Ammler> well, playing with it and complaining about are two different things 11:56:41 <Rubidium> or are you actually testing whether it works in TTDP 2.0r1 11:56:56 <Ammler> but I prefer glitches than disabled at all 12:58:34 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Bug #1103 (Closed): width of uphill track sprite (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1103 12:58:34 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 139:c7a512b65301: Fix #1103: Uphill overlay track was one pixel too wide (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/c7a512b65301 12:58:34 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Bug #1103 (Closed): width of uphill track sprite (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1103#change-2867 13:42:18 <planetmaker> andythenorth: you removed the power plant. That warrants a grfid bump 13:42:44 <planetmaker> (unless I mis-understood your commit messages) 13:44:10 <andythenorth> hmm 13:44:12 <andythenorth> good point 13:44:27 <andythenorth> stupid power plant :P 13:51:18 <Ammler> maybe you can keep the power plant, just disable automate arise 13:51:46 <andythenorth> could be 13:53:22 <planetmaker> yep 13:53:24 <planetmaker> sounds sane 13:56:16 <Ammler> at least for 0.3 :-) 13:57:01 <Ammler> you should reflect the GRFID in the version, btw. 14:02:01 <planetmaker> how? 14:03:23 <Ammler> last byte = major version 14:03:55 <andythenorth> Ammler: go read the grfid :) 14:05:27 <Ammler> yes, 20=2.0, not 0.2.0 :-) 14:05:51 <Ammler> you should keep the minor version for bugfixes wihtout ID change 14:10:46 <Ammler> planetmaker: do you have a easy way, to detect on which commit a patch conflicts? 14:11:17 <planetmaker> Ammler: you mean grfID? Or...? 14:11:43 <Ammler> a patch for openttd 14:12:26 <Ammler> Extension rebase is btw. quite helpful to update patch 14:12:36 <planetmaker> yes, it is 14:12:48 <planetmaker> I have no quick and easy way for that end 14:13:13 <planetmaker> I can imagine one can find the lines where it fails and then do on that file a hg blame and see what revision changed it 14:13:16 <Ammler> well, if you know, you should have told 14:13:23 <Ammler> Hirundo: doesn't know 14:13:27 <planetmaker> he? 14:13:41 * planetmaker is confused 14:14:23 <Ammler> he didn't update IS2 mq, because update merged repo is easier 14:14:35 <Ammler> but with rebase, it is quite the same 14:36:12 <Ammler> findversion doesn't work with mq 14:36:24 <Ammler> as it just checks the log instead looking for parent 14:50:19 <planetmaker> Ammler: yes, updating a merged repo is easier 14:50:45 <Ammler> then rebase? 15:06:40 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 15:06:47 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:50:30 <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 649:063fb6a8a54d: Added New Repaints (FaddyPainter) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/063fb6a8a54d 16:20:20 <Brot6> swedishrails: update from r138 to r139 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/swedishrails/nightlies/r139 16:21:56 <Brot6> worldairlinersset: compile of r649 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/nightlies/ERROR/r649 16:21:56 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r573), 32bpp-extra (r36), airportsplus (r52), bros (r12), comic-houses (r70), firs (r1074), fish (r386), grfcodec (r169), heqs (r352), newgrf_makefile (r120), nforenum (r377), nml (r555), nmts (r16), nutracks (r86), ogfxplus (r39), opengfx (r466), openmsx (r86), opensfx (r96), snowlinemod (r15) 16:48:18 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 17:05:38 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:24:27 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 17:24:52 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:28:56 *** FooBar has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:40:23 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:52:22 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:08:16 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1089: Forest in tropic (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1089#change-2868 18:14:12 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1099 (Closed): Brewery availability date in fund window (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1099 18:14:12 <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 650:d44a748b5933: DevZone: NFORenum binary is now also called nfor... (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/d44a748b5933 18:14:12 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1099 (Closed): Brewery availability date in fund window (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1099#change-2869 18:15:11 <Brot6> worldairlinersset: compile of r650 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/nightlies/ERROR/r650 18:15:11 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r573), 32bpp-extra (r36), airportsplus (r52), bros (r12), comic-houses (r70), firs (r1074), fish (r386), grfcodec (r169), heqs (r352), newgrf_makefile (r120), nforenum (r377), nml (r555), nmts (r16), nutracks (r86), ogfxplus (r39), opengfx (r466), openmsx (r86), opensfx (r96), snowlinemod (r15), swedishrails (r139) 19:25:08 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 19:25:13 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:56:41 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 20:13:02 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 20:50:05 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:51:50 *** FooBar has quit IRC 21:08:49 <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 651:f173eaca5075: Added Missing .pcx files (FaddyPainter) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/f173eaca5075 21:09:09 <Ammler> :-) 21:09:14 <planetmaker> :-) 21:09:40 <planetmaker> WAS might be THE example where it could possibly get more attention when people used NML for it :-) 21:09:55 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:19:41 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:28:04 <Brot6> unable to change mode on /home/ottdc/hg-repos/ottdbash : Operation not permitted - /home/ottdc/hg-repos/ottdbash/.hg/tags.cache 21:30:04 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ottdbash <-- the project was private, I published it now 21:30:17 <Ammler> planetmaker: feel free to comment and extend :-) 21:30:32 <planetmaker> oh :-) 21:33:36 <Ammler> did I already whine about, that findversion.sh doesn't work with mq? 21:33:47 <planetmaker> nope :-P 21:33:58 <Rubidium> yes... he did! 21:34:09 <planetmaker> I have only short-term memory 21:34:15 <planetmaker> except when not 21:34:20 <Ammler> the problem is that mq does create the changeset on top of the repo 21:34:20 <Rubidium> having said that... redmine's broken 21:34:34 <Rubidium> 6.8994140625 <- don't think that's a valid file size 21:34:36 <planetmaker> how? 21:34:40 <Ammler> Rubidium: linky? 21:34:55 <Rubidium> roughly dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/*/repository/* 21:35:03 <Rubidium> but for your please, e.g. http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ottdbash/repository/show/lib 21:35:36 <Ammler> hmm, fine here 21:36:08 <planetmaker> fine here, too 21:36:59 <Rubidium> it doesn't say size of 3rd.getotpt.sh is 6.8994140625? 21:37:29 <planetmaker> nope 21:37:38 <planetmaker> 3rd.getopt.sh 6.9 KB 21:37:39 <Rubidium> and when you sign out? 21:38:00 <Ammler> 3rd.getopt.sh 6.9 KB 0:2fb16c8cea95 5 days Ammler Feature: Initial commit 21:38:01 <planetmaker> 6.9 KB 21:38:09 <Rubidium> what the F 21:38:22 <Ammler> maybe locatlization? 21:38:26 <Rubidium> for me, when signed out it's 6.8994... and when signed in it's 6.9 KB 21:38:43 <Ammler> which language do you use? 21:38:52 <Rubidium> English... what else? 21:39:10 <planetmaker> Redmine auto-detects you OS localization 21:39:15 <planetmaker> even if signed-out 21:39:17 <Ammler> oh, isn't Dutch available? 21:39:28 <planetmaker> I have German redmine when loged out and English when loged in ;-) 21:39:28 <Rubidium> I despise Dutch programs 21:39:31 <planetmaker> as I chose English 21:39:48 <Rubidium> and my OS is English 21:39:58 <Rubidium> and has been for this whole Millenium 21:40:05 <planetmaker> :-) 21:41:06 <Ammler> I see no setting for filesize 21:41:56 <Rubidium> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100623 Iceweasel/3.6.4 (like Firefox/3.6.4) 21:42:33 <planetmaker> FF 3.6.6 here 21:43:00 <planetmaker> Rubidium: could it still be some funny (or missing?) locale 21:43:08 <planetmaker> hm... though it says en_GB 21:43:46 <Rubidium> oh... I'm using "broken" English for my user account (i.e. American) but "proper" English when not logged in 21:44:05 <Rubidium> so the proper English localisation is broken 21:44:39 <Ammler> English (British) is broken 21:44:50 <Ammler> I prefer English anyway 21:45:08 <Rubidium> that's American! 21:45:19 <Ammler> hmm, how you see that? 21:45:44 <Rubidium> well... because they have an English (British) the other must be the other "English", which is American 21:46:18 <Rubidium> and the "English" locale default is en_US, but I always change that to en_GB 21:47:05 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 21:51:33 <Ammler> I have en only, without any country 21:51:48 <Ammler> locale is C 21:52:15 <Ammler> en_US.UTF-8 21:52:40 <Rubidium> so "broken" English, i.e. American 21:53:53 <Ammler> seems so, but then suse does also define en_US as "default" english :-( 21:54:12 <Ammler> I am sure, I wouldn't have defined that myself 21:54:45 <Rubidium> yes... most OSes/distros use en_US as default 22:16:24 <Ammler> planetmaker: you have a solution for the findversion.sh issue?