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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 15th July 2010:
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05:46:55  <planetmaker> Ammler: you mean with mq? That it displays different things for different 'patch levels'?
05:46:58  <planetmaker> I don't
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07:39:58  <Ammler> planetmaker: no, just that I get the right svn version
07:40:22  <Ammler> basically follow parent and not just the log
07:43:32  <planetmaker> oh
07:44:09  <planetmaker> I'd try: hg log -k 'svn (r' --template='{desc}\n' | head -n1
07:45:23  <Ammler> what is the difference to findversion.sh?
07:47:07  <Ammler> e.g. we are at r20153, then update to r20146 and apply a patch
07:47:16  <planetmaker> that the mq entries don't have the 'official' commit style with "svn (rXXXXX)" pre-fixed. This searches for that
07:47:22  <Ammler> now findversion does show r20153 again
07:49:13  <planetmaker> ah. I've no solution for that
07:50:42  <planetmaker> maybe hg log -rqbase
07:52:42  <planetmaker> mind that it fails, if no patch is applied
07:54:48  <Ammler> hg log -f does it
07:57:16  <planetmaker> hm, yes :-)
07:58:39  <Ammler> abort: cannot follow nonexistent file: "src"
07:59:51  <planetmaker> :-P
08:00:12  <Ammler> if I run hg log -f self, it works
08:00:30  <Ammler> but something in findversion.sh is other
08:00:37  <planetmaker> what about just "hg log -f"?
08:02:20  <Ammler> yes, hg log -f does show you the workcopy rev
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10:35:39  <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=889946#p889946 <-- palette bug?
10:35:42  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX (at www.tt-forums.net)
10:36:32  <Rubidium> possibly
10:38:36  <Ammler> planetmaker: isn't there a colormap for toyland?
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10:40:17  <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/entry/sprites/nfo/toyland/toyland-1178-gui-recolor.pnfo
10:45:15  <planetmaker> yes, I think. Might be that they have the wrong colourmap assigned
10:45:53  <Ammler> they?
10:46:01  <Ammler> you don't have that?
11:13:28  <planetmaker> they = the sprites. Looong ago that I checked
11:26:39  <Brot6> Torrents - openSUSE-11.3-DVD-x86_64.iso.torrent (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/784/openSUSE-11.3-DVD-x86_64.iso.torrent
11:33:59  <Ammler>             3094.5 / 4285.4 MB Rate: 5560.0 / 8381.5 KB Uploaded:  2816.1 MB [71%]  0d  0:02 [T  R: 0.91]
11:34:11  <Ammler> nice speed :-)
11:35:04  <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: No buffer space available - connect(2)
11:35:13  <Ammler> :-o
11:35:28  <Ammler> I should disable it again, maybe :-D
11:38:35  <planetmaker> he
11:42:47  <Ammler> max speed upload now
11:43:13  <Ammler> how long can we keep 100MBit upload to reach our traffic limit?
11:43:25  <planetmaker> limt = 3TB, right?
11:43:32  <Ammler> aroundish, yes
11:43:48  <planetmaker> @3000000 / 100 / 3600
11:43:52  <planetmaker> @calc 3000000 / 100 / 3600
11:43:52  <Webster> planetmaker: 8.33333333333
11:43:56  <planetmaker> 8.3 hours?
11:44:01  <Ammler> oh, only?
11:44:21  <Ammler> nah TB = terrabyte
11:44:26  <planetmaker> yes
11:44:30  <Ammler> so it is 64 hours
11:45:50  <Ammler> @calc 3 * 1024 * 1024 / 10 / 3600
11:45:50  <Webster> Ammler: 87.3813333333
11:46:12  <Ammler> @calc 3 * 1024 * 1024 / 10 / 3600 / 24
11:46:12  <Webster> Ammler: 3.64088888889
11:47:20  <Ammler> but I guess, I should limit it again
11:47:29  <Ammler> it blocks our more important services
11:54:40  <planetmaker> yes. a factor 8 for bit vs byte
11:54:42  <planetmaker> still :-)
11:57:09  <planetmaker> @calc 31*24*3600
11:57:09  <Webster> planetmaker: 2678400
11:57:38  <planetmaker> @calc 3000000 * 8 / 31/24/3600
11:57:38  <Webster> planetmaker: 8.9605734767
11:58:10  <planetmaker> you can probably limit it to ~5Mbit continuous usage without getting into trouble
12:00:34  <planetmaker> ^ Ammler
12:04:36  <Ammler> yeah, set a limit, check our private universe
12:05:01  <Ammler> please complain as soon as you notice troubles with other services
12:05:16  <Ammler> I don't want to harm our "official" stuff with this
12:15:03  <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: execution expired
12:22:02  <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: execution expired
12:28:02  <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: No buffer space available - connect(2)
12:32:47  <planetmaker> ^ Ammler ?
12:33:00  <Ammler> yeah, I switch off
12:36:24  <planetmaker> well. it didn't seem to have an impact on DevZone's availability
12:36:52  <planetmaker> though... 14:17 web seemed to have failed
12:37:30  <planetmaker> according to the uptime statistics
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15:39:40  <Frankr> Is any1 on, i have a wierd problem which i have never encountered. When hg pushing on msys i get an error. "abort: error: getaddrinfo failed"
15:41:01  <Ammler> Frankr: update your url
15:41:08  <Ammler> we fixed the repo name
15:41:26  <Frankr> what is it now?
15:42:00  <Frankr> i have this in my hgrc
15:42:15  <Frankr> [paths]
15:42:17  <Frankr> default = ssh://ottdc@mz.openttdcoop.org/hg-repos/worldairlinersset
15:42:18  <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository <-- you see it on top right
15:42:18  <Frankr> default = http://hg.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset
15:42:20  <Frankr> default-push = https://frank:trebor13891@push.o.o/worldairlinersset
15:42:30  <Frankr> oops
15:42:36  <Frankr> lol
15:42:36  <Ammler> oh :-(
15:42:44  <Ammler> please change your pw
15:42:49  <Frankr> i will
15:43:23  <Ammler> did you try with this url?
15:44:24  <Frankr> yh
15:44:31  <Frankr> it is the middle one of my paths
15:44:31  <Ammler> please use words
15:44:37  <Frankr> yes
15:44:40  <Frankr> sorry
15:46:37  <Ammler> default-push = https://Ammler:***@push.openttdcoop.org/<repo>
15:47:01  <Frankr> ok, i'll change mine
15:47:17  <Ammler> your looks quite the same
15:47:40  <Ammler> or is that o.o not just a short here?
15:47:41  <Frankr> i'll change o.o to openttdcoop.org
15:47:47  <Ammler> lol :-P
15:47:50  <Frankr> :)
15:48:33  <Frankr> yh works fine now
15:48:44  <Ammler> nice :-)
15:48:48  <Frankr> i'm sure it worked fine with o.o previously
15:48:56  <Ammler> I am sure, it never did
15:49:02  <Frankr> lol
15:49:14  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 652:944401262a89: New code for A318 and A319 (Frank) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/944401262a89
15:49:17  <Frankr> right, how to i password change
15:49:18  <Ammler> btw. if you will make a release soon, the compiler now also supports this
15:49:23  <Frankr> it has been a while
15:49:37  <Frankr> we will be making a release august/sept
15:49:43  <Ammler> just tell me, if I should help you setup the config for it
15:50:02  <Frankr> ok, i will do
15:52:59  <Frankr> Ammler how do i change my password?
15:53:20  <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/my/password
15:53:58  <Frankr> thanls
15:54:01  <Frankr> thanks*
15:54:12  <Ammler> yaw
15:54:25  <Ammler> (your language :-P
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15:55:49  <Frankr> :)
15:56:39  <Frankr> it just takes me a while to snap out of it, p)
15:57:08  <Frankr> lol :p
16:20:26  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: compile of r652 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/nightlies/ERROR/r652
16:20:26  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r573), 32bpp-extra (r36), airportsplus (r52), bros (r12), comic-houses (r70), firs (r1074), fish (r386), grfcodec (r169), heqs (r352), newgrf_makefile (r120), nforenum (r377), nml (r555), nmts (r16), nutracks (r86), ogfxplus (r39), opengfx (r466), openmsx (r86), opensfx (r96), snowlinemod (r15), swedishrails (r139)
16:21:43  <Ammler> hmm
16:22:57  <planetmaker> hm :-)
16:23:08  <Ammler> silly error
16:23:09  <planetmaker> mid-summer lazyness
16:23:15  <Ammler> why are there 2 logfiles?
16:24:28  <planetmaker> btw, Ammler, shouldn't we publish the nml of nml projects, too?
16:24:46  <planetmaker> or should we only provide a -src.tar.gz?
16:24:52  <Ammler> yes, I would
16:25:00  <Ammler> and maybe the nfo too
16:25:02  <planetmaker> I found the nfo files plainly in the bundles dirs nice :-)
16:25:10  <planetmaker> well... nfo. maybe...
16:25:12  <Frankr> ooh it failed
16:25:16  <Frankr> great
16:25:24  <Ammler> Frankr: most probably our fault
16:25:24  <Frankr> lol
16:25:27  <planetmaker> Frankr: you should switch to NML ;-)
16:25:37  <Frankr> really, for once it isn't ours
16:25:41  <Frankr> lol
16:26:03  <Frankr> i only started coding yesterday so it may be me
16:26:16  <Frankr> nml?
16:27:41  <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml
16:27:58  <planetmaker> a FAR better readable newgrf language, replacement for NFO
16:28:15  <planetmaker> and planes should be nicely supported
16:28:29  <planetmaker> as are livery overrides
16:28:41  <planetmaker> and all the plane's varaction2s
16:29:26  <Frankr> i'll have a look
16:30:54  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: compile of r652 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/nightlies/ERROR/r652
16:31:43  <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=49255 <-- I really love those buildings :-)
16:31:45  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - [OTTD]Hi-Tech Future City Set making (at www.tt-forums.net)
16:33:42  <PeterT> woah, those are cool
16:33:47  <PeterT> I'm really missing alot on the forums :D
16:41:04  <Rubidium> planetmaker: you are aware that they are literally stolen from Sim City 2000?
16:41:14  <planetmaker> no
16:41:58  <planetmaker> What I skimed over / understood was that they were mods for SC2000 - and I assumed that he may use them
16:42:15  <planetmaker> I'm probably too naive :-)
16:43:41  <planetmaker> and maquinista really doesn't understand that the current 32bpp grass tiles are a no-go
16:43:54  <planetmaker> which cannot be defined as 'feature'
16:46:05  <Rubidium> planetmaker: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcology#Video_games
16:46:06  <Webster> Title: Arcology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
16:46:59  <planetmaker> hm, very much so, yes :S
16:47:03  <planetmaker> gah
16:47:22  <Ammler> hehe, compile of was failed because it didn't have enough space to build the chroot anymore
16:47:28  <planetmaker> :-O
16:47:46  <planetmaker> Ammler: we need the other server, I guess :-)
16:47:48  <Ammler> deleted the suse isos :-P
16:48:06  <Rubidium> who uses isos anyways?
16:48:19  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r648 to r652 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/nightlies/r652
16:48:20  <Rubidium> especially big/huge ones
16:48:37  <Rubidium> a 100 MiB ISO to boot installation is more than enough
16:49:33  <planetmaker> Rubidium: where does actually MiB as abbreviation for megabyte come from?
16:49:42  <planetmaker> The official abbreviation is to my knowledge MB
16:50:21  <planetmaker> searching for MiB in google was quite inconclusive to me
16:50:35  <planetmaker> and searching for abbreviation megabyte only yielded MB
16:50:43  <planetmaker> (which is also logical)
16:51:12  <Ammler> one is 1000 the other is 1024
16:51:25  <Rubidium> officially M stands for million, as such 1 MB = 0.96 (or so) MiB
16:52:06  <Rubidium> and because HDD manufacturers use 1 MB and then your OS says you have only 0.96 MB, people started complaining
16:52:15  <Rubidium> it gets worse with GBs though
16:52:26  <Rubidium> @calc 250*1000*1000*1000/1024/1024/1024
16:52:26  <Webster> Rubidium: 232.830643654
16:53:03  <Rubidium> planetmaker: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiB
16:53:04  <Webster> Title: Mebibyte - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
16:55:02  <planetmaker> ah. Thanks
16:59:24  <Frankr> Oooh you got it to work Ammler
16:59:41  <Frankr> For once it wasn't our fault, :)
16:59:42  <Ammler> well, you can still check nml :-P
16:59:53  <Ammler> [18:25] <Ammler> Frankr: most probably our fault
17:00:10  <Frankr> :p
17:02:58  <Rubidium> planetmaker: if you don't have a font supporting Chinese, then you will see the Chinese characters as question marks
17:04:42  <planetmaker> Rubidium: yes. As such I think that the description in the town selection should be English (it's for all)
17:04:58  <planetmaker> And the newgrf description IMHO should be English, too
17:05:12  <planetmaker> As the description should be in language 7F - which is English
17:05:32  <planetmaker> I know and see that it well works when I select chinese as my language
17:05:48  <planetmaker> but... then the game looses a bit of its playability for me ;-)
17:06:06  <Rubidium> a small english description saying you need a font supporting chinese for it to show properly
17:06:34  <Rubidium> if that's followed by a chinese description it doesn't bother me that much
17:06:44  <planetmaker> well. yeah
17:06:59  <Rubidium> and it's ofcourse tailored for Chinese people
17:07:22  <planetmaker> sure
17:08:31  <planetmaker> added that to my posting
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18:44:46  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 653:97bfe41d2acd: New Code for A320-200 and 7F_english edit (Frank) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/97bfe41d2acd
19:00:41  <planetmaker> Rubidium: OpenMSX: objections to releasing 1.0 as is? Or should I first try to verify everything every song somewhat again?
19:01:51  <Rubidium> no objections, but there'll be no dmusic -> other driver changes in 1.0.3
19:02:01  <Rubidium> i.e. you'll still have the bad sound issue
19:02:17  <planetmaker> yeah
19:02:35  <planetmaker> I understand that... :S
19:02:42  <planetmaker> that all sucks
19:02:46  <Rubidium> so maybe it shouldn't be called 1.0, but 0.3.0 or so
19:02:53  <planetmaker> hm
19:03:17  <Rubidium> so you have a full complement of songs, but you're not satisfied with it yet
19:03:23  <Rubidium> like opensfx and opengfx
19:03:29  <planetmaker> :-)
19:03:33  <Rubidium> although for them that was 0.2.0
19:05:53  <Brot6> #openttdcoop Client Patch Pack - Revision 0:bbbcfa9a4817: r19523: trunk patches (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/clientpatches/repository/revisions/bbbcfa9a4817
19:06:09  <PeterT> \o/
19:06:26  <planetmaker> uh, @ Ammler ? Revision0?
19:06:40  <Ammler> inital commit :-)
19:06:51  <planetmaker> oh, you didn't continue my CPP?
19:06:55  <Ammler> the old patches were svn
19:06:56  <planetmaker> why did you start a new one?
19:07:02  <PeterT> planetmaker: they are git now
19:07:09  <Ammler> PeterT: hg :-P
19:07:12  <planetmaker> eh? That was a hg project, too
19:07:18  <planetmaker> or...?
19:07:25  <planetmaker> hm...
19:07:33  <Ammler> planetmaker: you converted those somehow before you committed
19:07:35  <PeterT> SmatZ: git
19:07:38  <PeterT> oh, sorry
19:07:41  <PeterT> Ammler: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/clientpatches/repository/revisions/bbbcfa9a4817/entry/CenterCompanyAction.diff <-- git
19:07:52  <Ammler> git format :-)
19:08:00  <planetmaker> PeterT: we don't use git here. HG can create git format patches. Which is a good thing
19:08:06  <PeterT> oh, I see
19:08:09  <PeterT> that is quite good
19:08:19  <planetmaker> Which I actually do by default. As it also tracks changes of binary files
19:08:41  <Ammler> [diff]
19:08:42  <Ammler> git = 1
19:08:44  <Ammler> nodates = 1
19:08:45  <Ammler> my ~/.hgrc
19:09:46  <Ammler> PeterT: redmine has quite good git support
19:09:58  <PeterT> is redmine the software that devzone uses?
19:10:05  <Ammler> but no direct authentification yet
19:10:13  <Ammler> so mercurial is simply best with Redmine
19:10:55  <Ammler> but sadly, no official Redmine dev uses hg, so we use a kind of Fork
19:12:34  <Brot6> OpenMSX - Revision 87:a7e0c5397afb: Change: Update section on trouble with some songs (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/openmsx/repository/revisions/a7e0c5397afb
19:14:23  <Brot6> openmsx: update from 0.2.1 to 0.3.0 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/openmsx/releases/0.3.0
19:14:26  <Ammler> planetmaker: how do I replace a mq patch
19:14:33  <Ammler> or how do I remove one
19:14:42  <Brot6> OpenMSX - Revision 88:663b997ea229: Added tag 0.3.0 for changeset a7e0c5397afb (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/openmsx/repository/revisions/663b997ea229
19:14:42  <Ammler> edit series?
19:14:56  <planetmaker> that's one of the easiest ways, yes
19:15:06  <planetmaker> though there's some hg way, too. But I don't recall
19:15:15  <Ammler> well, I miss the hg way :-)
19:15:45  <Ammler> qdelete      remove patches from queue
19:17:09  <planetmaker> qdelete
19:17:18  <Ammler> yes :-P
19:17:50  <Ammler> hg help mq
19:18:07  <Ammler> sometimes, I search in wrong pages
19:18:22  <planetmaker> It is also possible to turn an existing changeset into a patch, by passing the -r option to hg qimport. No comments <-- hm... I shall remember that :-)
19:18:25  <Terkhen> that extension made my life much easier
19:19:41  <Ammler> now I try guards
19:20:46  <Ammler> but how to replace a patch?
19:21:30  <planetmaker> trallalala
19:21:32  <Ammler> I mean, if I like to apply a updated version instead rebase
19:21:34  <planetmaker> Ammler: hg qrefresh
19:21:51  <Ammler> planetmaker: that wouldn't work
19:22:06  <Ammler> that simply does write local changes to the patch
19:22:09  <planetmaker> then just overwrite the old patch
19:22:15  <Ammler> how?
19:22:18  <planetmaker> in the patches dir
19:22:32  <Ammler> so there is no "hg way"?
19:22:34  <Brot6> openmsx: update from 0.3.0 to 0.3.0 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/openmsx/releases/0.3.0
19:22:42  <planetmaker> :-D
19:22:42  <Brot6> OpenMSX - Revision 89:bab5bd67e6c5: Added tag 0.3.0 for changeset 829051fb8681 (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/openmsx/repository/revisions/bab5bd67e6c5
19:22:43  <Ammler> hmm
19:22:49  <Ammler> what was that?
19:22:52  <planetmaker> no one noticed? :-)
19:22:54  <planetmaker> good
19:22:58  <Ammler> oh :-)
19:23:16  <Ammler> did that work?
19:23:19  <Rubidium> planetmaker: no one noticed what?
19:23:20  <planetmaker> obviously
19:23:43  <planetmaker> Rubidium: I rolledback 0.3.0 on the server; forgot a changelog commit
19:24:28  <Rubidium> because I already put it on openttd's binaries server
19:24:37  <planetmaker> you did?!
19:24:47  <Ammler> autsch :-)
19:25:12  <Ammler> hmm, md5sum should be the same
19:25:16  <planetmaker> yes
19:25:23  <planetmaker> all md5sums actually
19:25:42  <Ammler> oh, I should update the DevZone config for msx
19:28:24  <Rubidium> nope... md5sum differ
19:28:33  <Ammler> of the bundles?
19:28:38  <Rubidium> yes
19:28:43  <Ammler> obvious
19:29:06  <Ammler> we meant the md5sums in the obm
19:29:25  <Rubidium> so I should get the new ones
19:29:33  <Ammler> yes
19:29:37  <Ammler> would be nice
19:29:57  <Ammler> but it shouldn't get trouble, if you don't
19:30:01  <planetmaker> well... would be nice. Or I re-tag it. So that the current one is 0.3.1
19:30:33  <Brot6> OpenMSX - Revision 90:5107fa673074: DevZone: create md5sum of source bundles, move .obm to log (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/openmsx/repository/revisions/5107fa673074
19:30:33  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 654:7c1062924f7c: New Code for A321 (Frank) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/7c1062924f7c
19:30:49  <Rubidium> it's quite easy to change
19:31:05  <planetmaker> then I'd prefer that. Otherwise the changelog talks of 1.0.0 ;-)
19:32:47  <planetmaker> I did actually expect that I could check that the devzone package is fine as well before it goes to bananas :-)
19:32:56  <planetmaker> Anyhow... shall / need I upload it there?
19:33:16  <Ammler> why shouldn't it?
19:34:51  <Rubidium> what I've done isn't pushed to the mirrors yet
19:35:10  <Rubidium> and won't be until I run the sync or the next nightly run is completed (in 23 hours)
19:35:30  <planetmaker> well... I'm not sure how much what rubi currently does is basically putting it to bananas :-)
19:35:46  <Rubidium> I'm not putting it on bananas
19:35:53  <Rubidium> just the mirror/installer
19:35:59  <planetmaker> only download-openmsx?
19:36:09  <Rubidium> yes
19:36:11  <planetmaker> ok :-)
19:36:17  <planetmaker> Sorry for the trouble :-)
19:37:45  <Ammler> Rubidium: where is r20000 :-P
19:38:28  <Ammler> that is really UGLY in the openttd VCS :-)
19:38:41  <Rubidium> what?
19:38:50  <Ammler> that you misuse tags as branches
19:39:30  <planetmaker> it's not a branch afaik
19:39:35  <Ammler> it is
19:39:38  <Ammler> it has changes
19:39:59  <Rubidium> Ammler: it's not a branch either... as branching implies copying and in a next commit changing
19:40:04  <Ammler> you can't build version 1.0.0 from branch 1.0
19:40:45  <Rubidium> who cares?
19:40:51  <Ammler> Rubidium: you do that, don't you?
19:41:48  <Rubidium> I do what?
19:43:05  <Ammler> you copy and add changes
19:43:16  <Rubidium> no, a script does that
19:43:17  <Ammler> the release tag
19:43:22  <Ammler> commit*
19:43:31  <Ammler> :-P
19:43:38  <Ammler> the script is buggy
19:43:46  <Ammler> it should make the changes, copy and revert
19:44:01  <Rubidium> nope...
19:44:23  <Rubidium> then the repository will be buggy
19:44:49  <Ammler> I wonder, if there is another OS project which does such a bad misuse of tags?
19:45:10  <Rubidium> as either the tagged version has an incorrect rev.cpp or the version in 1.0
19:45:14  <Ammler> did you invent that or was Darkvater the bad guy?
19:45:27  <Rubidium> it existed before me
19:46:02  <Rubidium> and why is it bad? And misuse?
19:46:15  <Rubidium> it's making use of the "strengths" of subversion
19:46:38  <Rubidium> that other vcses miss that functionality doesn't mean using it in vcses that support it is misuse
19:46:41  <Ammler> it is misusing of weakness of svn :-P
19:47:04  <Ammler> svn simply doesn't support proper tagging
19:48:53  <Rubidium> hg simply doesn't support uniform (on all checkouts) incremental version numbering
19:49:21  <Rubidium> planetmaker: ready for pushing everything to the mirrors?
19:50:13  <planetmaker> yeah.
19:50:36  <planetmaker> I uploaded it also to bananas now
19:53:05  <Rubidium> lovely...
19:53:09  <Rubidium> then that's done as well
19:53:12  <Ammler> how do I see, which 1.0 rev you branched to 1.0.2 tag?
19:53:45  <Rubidium> check the logs?
19:53:56  <Rubidium> take an informed guess
19:54:02  <Ammler> but that isn't possible without svn
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19:55:16  <Rubidium> usually it's `revision of tag` - 1
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20:03:06  <Brot6> OpenMSX - OpenMSX 0.3.0 - a full set (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/37
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20:23:08  <Ammler> planetmaker: how long does it take to play all music?
20:23:32  <planetmaker> hm... I don't actually know
20:23:38  <Ammler> hehe :-)
20:23:56  <planetmaker> I guess like 20 ... 40 minutes
20:24:07  <planetmaker> hm... no
20:24:15  <planetmaker> longer
20:33:13  <planetmaker> Ammler: I *think* 62:48m
20:33:33  <Ammler> nice isn't?
20:34:19  <planetmaker> yep :-)
20:37:14  <Ammler> 0.3.0 build successful on all rpm distros except RHEL4 and SLES9
20:37:37  <Ammler> https://build.opensuse.org/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=openmsx&project=home%3Aopenttdcoop&repository=SLES_9
20:38:03  <Ammler> well, nobody should care about those anymore
20:38:27  <planetmaker> :-)
20:40:41  <Ammler> ImportError: No module named subprocess
20:41:21  <Ammler> python-2.3.3
20:47:58  <Ammler> planetmaker: does your Makefile support creating nfo from nml?
20:48:15  <planetmaker> yes and no
20:48:38  <Ammler> hmm, I could run it after make manually
20:49:05  <planetmaker> Ammler: you could give make a parameter.
20:49:17  <planetmaker> NMLFLAGS=<whatever appropriate>
20:49:31  <Rubidium> maybe stop caring for SLES and RHEL ancient?
20:49:32  <planetmaker> which would then be --nfo somefile.nfo
20:49:40  <Ammler> Rubidium: yes
20:49:44  <Ammler> :-)
21:01:13  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 655:db1fc9d3291f: New Code A330-300 unsure what A330-200 is doing ... (Frank) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/db1fc9d3291f
22:03:22  <Brot6> #openttdcoop Client Patch Pack - Revision 1:e34ecad2e248: 1.0.2: 1.0 patches (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/clientpatches/repository/revisions/e34ecad2e248
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22:34:24  <Ammler> how do I apply only a single patch from mq?
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