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00:09:11 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 01:11:14 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 01:44:38 *** Yexo has quit IRC 01:48:41 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:07:39 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #1302 (New): alternative maglev sprites? (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1302 06:46:40 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1299: Industries not using TTD strings when possible (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1299#change-3411 06:49:06 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1236: 1 tile buffer should be ignored when player / scen... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1236#change-3412 06:58:13 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Bug #1301 (Closed): templates for TTD/TTRS level crossings (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1301 06:58:13 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 145:0902fc2962d9: Fix #1301: New template for modern style LC in TTDP mo... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/0902fc2962d9 06:58:13 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Bug #1301 (Closed): templates for TTD/TTRS level crossings (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1301#change-3413 07:03:33 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:10:35 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Feature #1219: translations (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1219#change-3414 07:16:36 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 07:17:13 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:43:23 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:20:45 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1303 (Assigned): Include action14 strings into translations (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1303 08:53:38 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:33:17 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1255:b4a91de63c4f: Fix: Add missing strings to remove_de... (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/b4a91de63c4f 10:33:17 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1256:3900647408d3: Change: Update spanish translation. (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/3900647408d3 10:47:33 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1299: Industries not using TTD strings when possible (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1299#change-3415 11:03:04 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:35:30 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #839: 4737-4742: Fizzy drink factory (2006TTD) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/839#change-3416 11:37:53 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #1230 (Closed): Toyland Buoy Follow up (2006TTD) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1230#change-3417 11:39:03 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #883 (Closed): Office building improvement (2006TTD) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/883#change-3418 11:40:19 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #1263: Toyland Rough Land (2006TTD) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1263#change-3419 11:44:24 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #1263: Toyland Rough Land (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1263#change-3420 11:48:16 <Ammler> planetmaker: I prefer red, but I won't post :-P 11:48:24 <Ammler> toyland is mainly your land ;-) 11:49:21 <planetmaker> Ammler, you said that you prefer red :-) 11:49:46 <Ammler> oh, there I said, we should at least try 11:49:47 <planetmaker> I respect that. But I don't like to implement something where I'm not convinced that it is a good decision 11:49:57 <Ammler> and now since I see them, I like it even more 11:49:59 <planetmaker> :-) 11:50:20 <planetmaker> I like to at least be able to play around with the versions 11:50:30 <Ammler> another green isn't really "brack" 11:50:42 <planetmaker> Maybe that can convince me. But not before I haven't seen my preferred one ingame as well. 11:50:49 <planetmaker> "brack"? 11:50:50 <Ammler> :-) 11:51:00 <Ammler> rough 11:51:16 <planetmaker> we are talking about exactly that one, don't we? 11:51:26 <planetmaker> we're not discussing stones there, or are we? 11:51:50 <planetmaker> stones have been proposed the gum drops. There the echo was rather mixed 11:52:02 <Ammler> I am not sure about those either 11:52:02 <planetmaker> And this is about rough. Which personally I'd like green. 11:52:10 <planetmaker> Maybe rocks can be red tiles. Maybe. 11:52:20 <Ammler> they are imo too less integrated in the terrain 11:52:31 <planetmaker> the gum drops? 11:52:37 <Ammler> joh 11:52:40 <planetmaker> yes, I'm not sure about them either 11:52:43 <planetmaker> anymore 11:52:48 <Ammler> :-) 11:52:56 <planetmaker> they will pose problems as they are ground tiles 11:53:04 <planetmaker> thus they should have little contour 11:59:24 *** OwenS has quit IRC 11:59:24 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 11:59:24 *** PeterT has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** Rubidium has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** ODM has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** Yexo has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** V453000 has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** Terkhen has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** Ammler has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** thgergo has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** tneo has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** Jupix has quit IRC 12:03:08 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:03:08 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:03:08 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:03:08 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:03:08 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:03:08 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:03:08 *** OwenS has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:03:08 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:03:08 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:03:08 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:03:08 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:03:08 *** Terkhen has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:03:08 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:03:08 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:03:08 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:03:08 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:03:08 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:03:08 *** Jupix has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:03:08 *** Rubidium has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:03:47 <planetmaker> I don't see a reason for any particular form of maglev sprites to be preferred 12:03:47 <Ammler> for me, it is more than improvement, if you change maglev to transrapid 12:03:47 <planetmaker> for technical or other reasons than 'looks best' 12:04:50 <planetmaker> You can still do that 12:04:50 <planetmaker> So why do you care? 12:06:04 <Ammler> I am not against it, I am just not sure, if opengfx is the right set for such things 12:06:04 <Ammler> same with water and specially with rivers 12:06:06 <planetmaker> What's up with that? 12:06:20 <Ammler> it looks completely different then in original 12:06:43 <planetmaker> Yes. So what? 12:06:43 <planetmaker> We are not TTD 12:06:43 <Ammler> rivers are ugly in original 12:07:16 <planetmaker> yes. And that shall be a reason to keep OpenGFX ugly?!? 12:07:16 <planetmaker> Honestly... 12:07:18 <Ammler> lol 12:07:36 <planetmaker> Most new people use OpenGFX. 12:08:18 <planetmaker> So make the best vanilla experience we can should be our mission 12:08:18 <planetmaker> Not "make the best copy of TTD sprites we can" 12:08:18 <Ammler> well, it might be the reason openttd doesn't support rivers. 12:08:44 <planetmaker> No 12:08:45 <planetmaker> And you know that 12:10:44 <Ammler> ok 12:10:44 <planetmaker> The base set doesn't provide more than is possible with river newgrfs. It cannot provide more 12:13:19 <Ammler> wow, 2006TTD starts to close tickets :-o 12:15:41 <Rubidium> Ammler: the reason openttd.grf doesn't have river sprites is because nobody ever made them, beside skidd13 but he wasn't satisfied with his work 12:16:10 <Ammler> Rubidium: yeah, and because openttd.grf doesn't have those, openttd doesn't support those :-) 12:16:30 <Ammler> else, someone might "push" you a bit more :-P 12:16:45 <Rubidium> though feel free to ask someone to draw them for OpenTTD as well 12:18:13 <Ammler> andy is the only ttd user I know which would be able to 12:19:23 <Ammler> Rubidium: or you could do it the other way around, support rivers and then some "TTD users" might fix the lack :-) 12:20:17 <Ammler> the opengfx rivers could also need some improvments, btw. 12:23:32 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #883: Office building improvement (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/883#change-3422 12:25:21 *** Rubidium has quit IRC 12:31:18 *** Rubidium has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:46:14 *** Rubidium_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:48:14 *** Rubidium has quit IRC 13:00:48 <Brot6> Autopilot - Revision 85:afa938aed9c3: Fix #976: don't crash openttd with bang command starting wi... (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/autopilot/repository/revisions/afa938aed9c3 13:00:48 <Brot6> Autopilot - Bug #976 (Closed): Crash on !command-garbage (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/976#change-3423 13:09:09 *** Rubidium_ is now known as Rubidium 13:30:36 *** thgergo has quit IRC 13:41:10 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #883: Office building improvement (2006TTD) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/883#change-3424 14:04:33 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1054: Incomplete cargo chains prior to certain dates - missi... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1054#change-3425 14:06:56 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1054: Incomplete cargo chains prior to certain dates - missi... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1054#change-3426 14:09:43 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1236: 1 tile buffer should be ignored when player / scen... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1236#change-3427 14:12:52 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1257:a9ef645410ab: Fix (r1255): some defines were meant ... (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/a9ef645410ab 14:16:18 <Brot6> Total Town Replacement Set - Feature Request #1287: FIRS compatible (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1287#change-3428 14:22:16 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Support #1304 (Feedback): Mission statement (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1304 14:23:43 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Support #1304: Mission statement (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1304#change-3429 14:32:59 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Support #1304: Mission statement (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1304#change-3430 14:38:30 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #1302: alternative maglev sprites? (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1302#change-3431 14:40:24 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #1302: alternative maglev sprites? (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1302#change-3432 14:43:18 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Support #1304: Mission statement (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1304#change-3433 15:19:27 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 675:1d598068c8c1: Feature: parse the parameter description block ... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/1d598068c8c1 15:19:27 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 676:57ccb825f186: Feature: write the action 14 for the parameter ... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/57ccb825f186 15:21:50 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #1174 (New): Action 14 support (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1174#change-3434 15:21:50 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #1174: Action 14 support (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1174#change-3435 15:27:47 <planetmaker> \o/ 15:33:40 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:33:43 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Revision 589:3e5628db5ab3: Fix: Running costs now should apply correctly to the m... (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/3e5628db5ab3 15:42:23 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Revision 590:58010b9a079f: Fix: #1284 (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/58010b9a079f 15:42:23 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #1284 (Closed): Few graphic bugs - r586 (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1284#change-3436 15:43:45 <DJNekkid> :D 15:44:46 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1305 (New): Detect missing strings (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1305 15:44:46 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Support #1290 (Closed): Corrected VL85 sprites (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1290#change-3437 15:45:32 *** michi_cc has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:46:04 <DJNekkid> planetmaker: my 2cc-set wont build 15:46:59 <Ammler> DJNekkid: you might need to clean because dep check changed 15:47:14 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Revision 591:e2019c035f5f: Fix: Add newline at EOF of mus.txt.pnfo (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/e2019c035f5f 15:47:44 <DJNekkid> still does not do the trick 15:48:08 <Ammler> what is the error? 15:48:09 <DJNekkid> and lots of # <number> <"stdin"> etc is added to the .nfo file 15:48:21 <DJNekkid> [thomas@dhcppc6 2ccset-]$ make 15:48:21 <DJNekkid> [DEPEND] Makefile.dep 15:48:21 <DJNekkid> mdep dep check 15:48:21 <DJNekkid> [CPP] 2cctrainset.nfo 15:48:21 <DJNekkid> [NFORENUM] 2cctrainset.nfo 15:48:23 <DJNekkid> /bin/sh: nforenum: command not found 15:48:24 <DJNekkid> Fatal nforenum error! 15:48:26 <DJNekkid> make: *** [2cctrainset.nfo] Error 1 15:48:39 <Ammler> [17:48] <DJNekkid> /bin/sh: nforenum: command not found <-- not clear? 15:48:50 <DJNekkid> lol 15:49:03 <DJNekkid> but how did that happen? 15:49:13 <DJNekkid> it worked in ... 586 or something :) 15:49:42 <DJNekkid> 585 i guess 15:50:25 <Ammler> you have it still in ~/bin? 15:50:41 <Ammler> ls -l ~/bin 15:50:43 <DJNekkid> pulling a new renum 15:50:56 <Ammler> ah, you don't build self? 15:51:03 <DJNekkid> yes i do 15:51:08 <DJNekkid> pulling/building .) 15:52:25 <DJNekkid> i guess its because nforenum didnt work in <r585 15:52:40 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 677:1e9cf9ba1d24: Fix: make sure action14 is printed before action8 (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/1e9cf9ba1d24 15:52:40 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 678:c15807f9ea54: Fix: update regression tests (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/c15807f9ea54 15:53:14 <DJNekkid> and yasc (yet another stupid question) 15:53:19 <DJNekkid> how do a rename a symlink? 15:53:30 <DJNekkid> as my symlink is called "renum" and not "nforenum" 15:53:47 <Ammler> mv renum nforenum 15:54:14 <Ammler> or ln -s renum nforenum to keep both :-) 15:54:33 <DJNekkid> :D 15:54:40 <DJNekkid> i mv'ed it :) 15:54:48 <DJNekkid> and now it did build :D 16:04:45 <planetmaker> <DJNekkid> pulling a new renum <-- it's called nforenum now ;-) 16:05:36 <DJNekkid> apparently :D 16:08:45 <planetmaker> hm, I really wonder how I can explain George in simple words as a cake-walk how DevZone (-projects) work 16:08:48 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1258:dfcd20bd0ea8: Translation: fix a typo in Dutch tran... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/dfcd20bd0ea8 16:09:09 <planetmaker> and whether he can / will install the requirements 16:09:16 <planetmaker> which are not nothing 16:10:21 <DJNekkid> hes english is really poor? 16:13:50 <planetmaker> it's not bad 16:14:27 <planetmaker> But I think he puts a lot of effort in it :-) 16:18:23 <DJNekkid> oki :D 16:20:33 <Brot6> 2cctrainset: update from r588 to r591 done (47 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/2cctrainset/nightlies/r591 16:21:23 <Brot6> firs: update from r1250 to r1258 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r1258 16:21:46 <Brot6> newgrf_makefile: update from r162 to r164 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/newgrf_makefile/nightlies/r164 16:22:58 <Brot6> nml: update from r673 to r678 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r678 16:23:27 <Brot6> swedishrails: compile of r146 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/swedishrails/nightlies/ERROR/r146 16:23:32 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 32bpp-extra (r38), airportsplus (r53), basecosts (r20), comic-houses (r71), fish (r387), grfcodec (r234), heqs (r372), metrotrackset (r56), nforenum (r474), nutracks (r98), ogfxplus (r41), opengfx (r502), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), snowlinemod (r36), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r25), worldairlinersset (r663) 16:24:22 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 146:d57bfce3b090: Fix: Add important parts of the Makefile (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/d57bfce3b090 16:24:24 <DJNekkid> beta4-time? :) 16:24:41 <Ammler> 47 errors :-P 16:25:06 <Brot6> swedishrails: compile of r146 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/swedishrails/nightlies/ERROR/r146 16:25:14 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: ogfxplus (Diffsize: 6) 16:25:43 <DJNekkid> of witch 41 is white error, and 6 of them is "sprite not used" 16:26:05 <Ammler> ok :-) 16:26:47 <planetmaker> so 41 easy fixes :-) 16:27:12 <DJNekkid> i'll poke voyager1 :) 16:27:35 <planetmaker> DJNekkid, open in gimp, select white, use eraser, done 16:27:44 <Ammler> planetmaker: DevZone is one step, the Makefile framework another 16:27:55 <Ammler> specially since it doesn't work on windows anymore 16:28:01 <planetmaker> Ammler, true. And good point 16:28:12 <planetmaker> Two steps :-) 16:28:31 <Ammler> people don't need to use the Makefile Framework to make their sources public 16:28:39 <planetmaker> of course not 16:28:48 <Ammler> it would be nice on a longer view :-) 16:29:01 <planetmaker> But he'd have to get used to hg 16:29:27 <planetmaker> And I wouldn't mind, if there'd be a batch file / perl scripts 16:29:31 <planetmaker> (he uses both) 16:29:53 <Ammler> yeah, the build script is very easy customizeable 16:30:00 <Ammler> e.g. my make.sh :-) 16:30:21 <planetmaker> nah. That'll remain make ;-) 16:31:46 <DJNekkid> i can provide him with a linux screen if he needs one 16:32:14 <Ammler> he :-) 16:32:17 <Ammler> you mean shell 16:33:06 <Ammler> or with vnc? 16:35:09 <DJNekkid> whatever he needs :) 16:36:00 <DJNekkid> brb, puter needs to reboot 16:39:39 <DJNekkid> there 16:40:18 <DJNekkid> Kristines phone needs a software update... 16:40:35 <DJNekkid> and for that i needed to install some nokia software 16:42:24 <planetmaker> lol 16:42:41 <DJNekkid> and that needed a reboot 17:04:15 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:12:10 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Support #1304: Mission statement (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1304#change-3438 17:25:38 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Support #1304: Mission statement (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1304#change-3439 17:42:02 <Brot6> NFORenum - Revision 475:09a83e2cf22c: Fix: don't use extern "C" for something that will be compil... 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(foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/fd1754950026 19:01:26 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1305: Detect missing strings (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1305#change-3441 19:01:26 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1305 (Feedback): Detect missing strings (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1305#change-3442 19:09:42 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1260:26c23bc8d2bd: Codechange: undefine all defined strings (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/26c23bc8d2bd 19:17:31 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1299: Industries not using TTD strings when possible (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1299#change-3443 19:19:08 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1303: Include action14 strings into translations (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1303#change-3444 19:19:45 <andythenorth> FooBar: :) 19:19:49 <andythenorth> commits 19:20:01 <FooBar> mostly updated issues ;) 19:20:19 <FooBar> just 2 of them are actual commits 19:55:25 <Ammler> where shall I put the grf2html page? 19:55:57 <Ammler> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/<project>/grf2hml/index.html or somewhere else? 19:55:58 <frosch123> ? 19:56:06 *** Seberoth2 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:56:21 <Ammler> or how to call it 19:56:26 <Ammler> docs? 19:57:00 <frosch123> oh, depends what you want to generate 19:57:17 <frosch123> i.e. only keep latest nightly? or for every nightly? or for releases? 19:57:30 <Ammler> only keep one 19:57:47 <Ammler> opengfx is around 100MB :-) 19:58:06 <frosch123> so there would be subfolder "releases", "nightlies", and "grf2html" 19:58:12 <planetmaker> :-O 19:58:18 <Ammler> hmm, no 19:58:22 <frosch123> i do not like the "docs" term, it sounds like "user manual" 19:58:47 <frosch123> i would not be surprised by 100MB disk usage on certain file systems 19:59:05 <frosch123> grf2html creates tonnes of small files 19:59:09 <Alberth> 'notes' :) 19:59:30 <Ammler> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/<project>/nightlies/newgrf/index.html 20:01:31 *** Seberoth is now known as Guest811 20:01:31 *** Seberoth2 is now known as Seberoth 20:02:26 <frosch123> well, i guess unless you want to link to single sprites, grfhtml output is quite useless for ogfx (except the extra) :p 20:03:14 <Ammler> is btw. 1>/file 2>&1 the same as >file ? 20:03:24 *** Guest811 has quit IRC 20:03:26 <Rubidium> no 20:03:38 <Ammler> latter is like 1>file? 20:03:44 <Rubidium> yes 20:03:50 <Ammler> ok, thanks :-) 20:03:53 <frosch123> it is the same as >& file, iirc 20:09:39 <Brot6> firs: update from r1258 to r1260 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r1260 20:10:52 <Ammler> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r1260/log/firs/ <-- does that kill your browser and our server? :-) 20:11:11 <frosch123> let's try 20:12:08 <frosch123> oh, btw. i read foobar was committing stuff today :) maybe add a action14 to set the palette :) 20:12:29 <Ammler> do you assume windows, if not defined? 20:12:46 <FooBar> isn't same as base set assumed if not defined? 20:13:07 <Ammler> that is openttd 20:13:09 <frosch123> Ammler: you can set the default via commandline or grf2html.ini 20:13:16 <planetmaker> it slows down considerably my download ;-) 20:13:17 <frosch123> but i have to look up the default :) 20:13:19 <Ammler> I meant grf2html frosch :-) 20:14:31 <Ammler> FooBar: BUG! http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r1260/log/firs/nfo.html#sprite5 20:14:40 <Ammler> :-) 20:17:03 <Ammler> frosch123: not using tables might speed up loading of html drastically 20:17:14 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1261:b0e22c4f5a9e: Feature: set palette in action 14 (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/b0e22c4f5a9e 20:17:39 <frosch123> ah, yes, win palette is default 20:17:49 <frosch123> Ammler: what else? 20:17:54 <Ammler> uls 20:17:56 <Ammler> li 20:18:04 <Ammler> divs 20:18:08 <Ammler> span 20:18:12 <Ammler> dunno :-) 20:18:30 <frosch123> maybe html5? 20:18:35 <Ammler> the issue is that it now needs to load the whole content 20:18:39 <Ammler> :-) 20:19:01 <frosch123> they deprecated frames :/ i have no idea how to add independent scrollable stuff which links between each other 20:19:27 <frosch123> well, they did not deprecate it (it already was), but removed it :p 20:19:46 <Ammler> divs can be scrolled too 20:19:54 <frosch123> Ammler: anyway, loading worked fine at my side :) 20:20:35 <frosch123> Ammler: my html knowledge was up-to-date around year 2000 20:20:52 <FooBar> Ammler: this should fix it: 20:20:54 <frosch123> did not learn any html in past 10 years :p 20:21:41 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1262:f598159de310: Fix: 00 too many in one of the action... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/f598159de310 20:21:46 <Rubidium> frosch123: just declare it HTML4.0/FRAMESET 20:21:49 <Ammler> shall we report that to nforenum as bug? 20:21:58 <Ammler> that grf2hml found that? 20:22:04 <FooBar> go ahead 20:22:24 <Ammler> frosch123: or maybe you could pipe such errors to stderr and we make a sep error log? 20:22:29 <frosch123> Ammler: i guess dalestan would say, that trailing bytes are completely valid :) 20:22:40 <FooBar> I was actually doing completely other stuff, now look what happened ;) 20:23:57 <FooBar> trailing bytes are completely valid, that was proven by the weird action 3 I fixed a couple of days ago. That had a LOT of trailing bytes and neither nforenum nor openttd complained about that 20:24:12 <frosch123> grf2html complained about it :p 20:24:22 <FooBar> maybe report it as bug to grf2html ;) 20:24:42 <frosch123> i know better bugs :p 20:24:49 <FooBar> :) 20:24:59 <Ammler> :-D 20:25:28 <frosch123> hmm, actually, that reminds me of something else... 20:25:36 <FooBar> I don't mind nforenum reporting trailing bytes as minor warning, as there's absolutely no reason to have those (except in action 0C and the odd exception) 20:25:43 <frosch123> maybe i should try to fix the vulnerability of grfcodec... 20:26:20 <Ammler> frosch123: it is btw. still a 32bit windres 20:26:30 <Ammler> just specially made fro x86_64 20:27:14 <Ammler> https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=grf2html.spec&package=grf2html&project=home%3Aopenttdcoop&srcmd5=8a3d06dafeff2c73ea4f2f588641b198 20:27:34 <Ammler> /usr/bin/x86_64-pc-mingw32-windres 20:30:50 <frosch123> that spec has some "bugs" :) 20:31:34 <frosch123> the references mentioned by rb before, and it is actually gpl v3+ 20:31:56 <frosch123> though i wondered about relicensing it to v2 or v2+ like everything else 20:32:09 <Ammler> oh :-( 20:32:17 <Ammler> and rb already said? 20:32:43 <frosch123> yup, yesterday rb made fun of those [1] and "see sections 6 and 7" :p 20:32:59 <Ammler> ah, hmm 20:33:24 <Ammler> then write an nicer "About" :-P 20:33:32 <frosch123> :p 20:34:00 <frosch123> also weird that you have to use libpng-devel for older suse 20:34:12 <frosch123> i.e. that is was not names libpng12 also before 20:35:56 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 20:36:13 <Ammler> it is 20:36:19 <Ammler> hmm 20:36:49 <Ammler> unresolvable: nothing provides libpng12-devel 20:36:54 <Ammler> it isn't :-) 20:37:18 <Ammler> there is libpng12 20:37:22 <Ammler> but not libpng12-devel 20:37:27 <frosch123> :) 20:37:43 <frosch123> does it actualy need the -devel package? 20:37:56 <Ammler> hmm 20:38:20 <frosch123> fpc comes with its own header files anyway 20:38:52 <Ammler> Linking grf2html 20:38:54 <Ammler> /usr/bin/ld: warning: link.res contains output sections; did you forget -T? 20:38:55 <Ammler> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpng12 20:39:50 <frosch123> there is no libpng12.so anymore? 20:40:03 <frosch123> why would that be provided by the -devel package? 20:40:55 <Ammler> I need that for openttd too 20:41:18 <Ammler> but only for building btw. 20:41:22 <Rubidium> frosch123: just use `pkg-config libpng --cflags` and the like 20:41:51 <frosch123> hmm, interesting. libpng12 provides libpng12.so.0 and -devel provides libpng12.so 20:42:25 <frosch123> Rubidium: it is not c :p 20:43:27 <Rubidium> then use it to fudge the link stuff :) 20:44:03 <Ammler> libpng12.so.0(PNG12_0)(64bit) libpng12-0 20:44:10 <frosch123> and how would it tell pkg-config to use libpng12, instead of libpng14 ? 20:44:17 <Ammler> https://build.opensuse.org/package/binary?arch=x86_64&filename=grf2html-r230-6.1.x86_64.rpm&package=grf2html&project=home%3Aopenttdcoop&repository=openSUSE_11.2 20:44:25 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1299: Industries not using TTD strings when possible (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1299#change-3445 20:46:22 <frosch123> oh, pkg-config libpng12 actually works 20:47:44 * andythenorth plays the game 20:48:02 <Ammler> Lego? 20:54:08 <andythenorth> no the real game :) 20:54:21 <andythenorth> I patched so all towns need food :) 20:56:35 <Ammler> planetmaker: you missed the FAIL for ser? 20:58:26 <Ammler> mäh, no other set has a commit since 18:18? 21:21:47 <Brot6> Grf2Html - Feature #1307 (New): Print errors to stderr (frosch) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1307 21:21:55 <frosch123> opening tasks on redmine is quite nice actually, just closing involves so much work 21:22:05 <planetmaker> how so, frosch123 ? 21:22:11 <frosch123> :p 21:22:19 <planetmaker> oh, that way :-P 21:22:50 <Ammler> yeah, Brot6 would also announce commits to that svn repo :-P 21:23:11 <Ammler> not very realtimeish though 21:24:38 <Ammler> frosch123: if I could set prios, #1307 would be nice one 21:25:05 <Ammler> or is that trailing "00" the only error it finds and nforenum doesn't? 21:25:40 <frosch123> renum should generally find more errors than grf2html 21:26:04 <frosch123> though grf2html does not have a mechanism to disable warnings :p 21:26:53 <frosch123> usually the most often error is "realsprite expected" when putting bogus pseudo sprites in unused action1 slots 21:27:02 <frosch123> (e.g. purchase list vehicle sprites) 21:27:31 <Ammler> grf2html has issues to output recolor sprites 21:27:51 <frosch123> in ogfx? 21:27:54 <Ammler> yes 21:28:23 <frosch123> it only outputs them inside action1/5/a 21:28:41 <frosch123> it is not exactly meant for grfs 21:29:04 <frosch123> though maybe it could check the first sprite to distinguish grfs from newgrfs 21:29:54 <andythenorth> good night 21:31:07 <Brot6> Grf2Html - Feature #1308 (New): Detects base graphics and output recolour sprites in them (frosch) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1308 21:32:11 <frosch123> i wonder whether i should actually do #1298 for the svn repo, or rather switch to hg... 21:36:21 <Ammler> hehe, then the nightly integration would be easy, I just wondered, if I need to add external repo support :-) 21:37:24 <Ammler> well, I could already run my svnsync.sh script 21:38:10 <frosch123> i already tried hgsvn some time ago :) 21:38:37 <Ammler> well, I would try hg convert first 21:38:48 <frosch123> anyway, if there is an immediate benefit for anyone (i.e. you), that is actually reason enough to switch :) 21:38:51 <Ammler> that should work in most cases 21:39:22 <Ammler> frosch123: well, if you add features without a release :-) 21:39:26 *** FooBar has quit IRC 21:39:54 <frosch123> Ammler: once there are nightlies, there is no point in a release 21:40:02 <frosch123> same for ttdviewer 21:40:21 <frosch123> a release for those two has always been only some manually compiled nightly 21:40:26 <Ammler> anyway, uploading to obs is much more effort then simply let devzone make nightlies and make the package depend on it 21:40:31 <frosch123> once there is an automatic one there is no point in them 21:41:15 <frosch123> well, except you do likely not cross-compile for windows, do you? :p 21:41:29 <Ammler> I wouldn't care 21:41:40 <Ammler> I just would need a "howto" :-) 21:41:59 <Ammler> the mingw packages are there 21:42:25 <Ammler> or you can ask rubi to make those :-P 21:43:19 <Rubidium> wut? 21:43:51 <frosch123> Ammler: well, i compiled grf2html for windows always with delphi up to now :) 21:44:08 <Ammler> delphi is a windows app? 21:44:13 <frosch123> yes 21:44:13 <Ammler> only 21:44:31 <frosch123> and the delphi version does not use libpng, but some non-free thingie 21:45:37 <Ammler> since rubi makes so nice windows bins, I never cared about cross compiling... 21:46:16 <frosch123> but grf2html is not c :p 21:46:20 <Ammler> but as we have full mingw support, it might not be really hard. 21:46:41 <Ammler> dunno, how fpc supports 21:46:55 <frosch123> fpc is said to be able to crosscompile 21:47:05 <frosch123> as it does assembling and linking itself anyway 21:47:11 <Ammler> so then it is all up to your Makefile? 21:47:20 <frosch123> but i have no idea whether it manages to link libpng for windows 21:47:59 <Ammler> if you are able to build it on your linux, it shouldn't be an issue to build it here 21:49:21 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 147:3db953c01627: Fix: custom_tags.txt wasn't automatically (re-)created... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/3db953c01627 21:50:55 <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 165:64d5811e578f: Fix: [NML] custom_tags.txt wasn't generated (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/64d5811e578f 21:59:22 <frosch123> night 21:59:27 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:03:09 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 22:03:57 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:08:56 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 22:09:45 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:10:28 <Ammler> test #280 22:10:29 <Brot6> Ammler: #280 is https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/280 "OpenGFX - Bug #280: standard signals - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 22:11:07 <Ammler> maybe spamy :-) 22:11:14 <Ammler> test r123 22:17:36 <Rubidium> r123 of what? 22:35:12 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:40:18 <Ammler> well, it is good, that it doesn't :-) 22:41:45 <Ammler> I could define the "main" project 22:42:02 <Ammler> but we don't have such, hmm, or openttd 22:44:59 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Support #1304: Mission statement (athanasios) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1304#change-3446 22:48:53 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 22:49:42 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:50:30 <Ammler> r502 fixed #280 :-) 22:50:30 <Brot6> Ammler: r502 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/repositories/revision/opengfx/502 "Revision 502:d359a364ffb1" 22:50:31 <Brot6> Ammler: #280 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/280 "OpenGFX - Bug #280: standard signals - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 22:51:35 <Ammler> that is bad, imo :-) 22:52:44 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Feature #1219: translations (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1219#change-3447 22:56:34 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 22:57:14 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:58:51 *** Brot6 has quit IRC 22:59:32 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone